Call Her Daddy - Rob’s Love Island Tell All

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Rob (America’s favorite heartthrob) comes straight off the plane from Fiji to the Call Her Daddy studio to relive every moment of this season of Love Island. Get ready to peel back the onion ;)

what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy rob welcome to call her daddy thank you thank you thank you um rob rob rob rob rob i feel like so many women around the world right now have so many feelings and emotions towards you. So today we're going to really peel back the onion and we're going to get into it. That's good. That's good. Good luck. Okay. so you just got off the plane from Fiji you came directly here after getting eliminated how has it been like acclimating to the real world it's really really strange one of the big things is like neon isn't on everything like neon signs like the lights there i got really used to just seeing that every day i got to my hotel room and i was like it's so dark in here i had to like pause i didn't

know what you were fucking saying you're saying like the way the villa looks is so bright you get used to it you get used to like just being around like literally there's a neon sign on every surface. Like it's like lights up. Right. And I got out and I was like, it's so dark out here. Okay. That's not kind of what I was asking though. I just, I don't know when you got your phone back. Oh, right. How did you like handle all of it? Like what did you first do when you got your phone? I called my family. You called your family. I called my family. They gave me my phone on the way to the airport and I knew i was gonna have service so i called my family in like a group chat facetime you know yeah immediately i saw all their faces and i was really nervous because i was like i i was either worried that they were going to be like hey robert how are you but they were all like hey like they were so happy

to see me and they seemed like they were so proud of you like you did so good you were yourself the whole time and i was like oh what a relief well because you thought there was a chance they were gonna be like you ruined our family's reputation you dragged our name through the road like i just didn't know like i didn't know because like it's a tv show right yeah i know what happened i was there yeah i knew that i was authentic the whole time right but it can get clipped and it can get edited and And like, yeah, you know. Have you checked your DMs yet? Um, mm-hmm. What's going on in there, Rob?

It's honestly like at this point, like too much to even, it's just a refresh and then it's like a new page. Do you have any like celebs in there? I had a really good conversation with Noah from Stranger Things. That's so random. You want to hear what i said to him i said the funniest thing back and i think it went over his head but it was so funny and then

we just talked about the show like he was just a big fan and i just talked to him about it oh wait should i not say well he just said he just it was fine he said i love you on on love island you stole my heart and i said um thank you so much i love stranger things thank you noah schnapp from the hit tv show stranger things i just gave him back like a bot response i thought it'd be really funny and he just said thanks rob you and lee should have won and then we just talked about the show for a while is that like so surreal that like you have someone like that in your dms yeah it was also worse that like i just didn't even think about it and i was talking to him and then my sister was like what are you doing i was like i that like I just didn't even think about it and I was talking to him and then my sister was like, what are you doing?

And I was like, I'm actually having just a casual conversation with the guy from Stranger Things right now. But it was funny. Have any women slid in? A few, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Any that you're like, oh. Well, I think right now at this point in time, I'm I'm pretty like emotionally drained. I don't know if I'm ready for it. You're not ready. Yeah yeah but like good to know they're there whatever you want to call it i saw

that everyone was like up in arms on the internet about you got out of the villa and you followed leah and then eventually you followed all of the rest and andrea and all of them yeah but is it freak you out that like all everyone is like seeing everything you're doing or do you love the attention come on rob look what you're wearing you love the attention i had to wear them okay don't come for the overalls i had to wear them i saw the memes and everything and i was like bro i was like you know might as well okay first talk to me about the overalls for a second so you did bring other clothes obviously but like was this the first thing you packed

no i didn't even plan on wearing these so i brought these so love island usually the intro is you're like doing your job and you get a text you're like oh time to go to the villa so i was that's what these were for oh do you wear these when you wrangle the snakes sometimes yeah often sometimes yeah so so yeah so i brought them for that part okay and then i was like oh fuck it so i just threw him in the villa bag that goes in. And then I wore him and I was like, dude, this is the move because Fiji is really hot, right? And I didn't have to wear a shirt basically.

It was like pants, a little bib, but it's very breathable. It was comfortable. But were you feeling yourself in it too? Like, did you think the ladies were going to love the overalls? No. No. Definitely not. They, they didn't like them there. Like it wasn't a no are you currently doing d on d currently

i'm not d on d and what is d on d to people that maybe didn't watch the season of love island d on d is dick on denim and can you talk about that because it feels a little bit masochistic it feels a little bit like rug burn do you know no no it's not like that you should well you can't try it but oh uh i would encourage anyone out there to try d on d it's uh yeah you're penisless so it's not gonna work for you but it's breathable and like it's just nice why did you choose to wear underwear today well i'm wearing my lucky underwear i thought i might need it what is your lucky underwear you don't need to show me you don't need to show me okay okay so that kind of sounds like a little bit of a kink like you like your dick on denim what is some like weird shit that you like in

the bedroom that's maybe a little like unexpected i'm not gonna tell you that yeah you have to oh okay i didn't know that yeah that's what color daddy is you have to tell me what's something like a little like off the beaten path that you like in the bedroom off the beaten path what come on go on these are this is what the ladies like but you everyone in america knows you you you just met me i know you you don't you think you know me i know you you know my story no no you know i named my story but you don't know me no no i saw you in the heart rate challenge i've seen you in your cowboy outfit i know you're getting up to some kinky shit in there. I mean, you're not lying. No.

But, like, I don't really want to talk about it. Okay, give me, like, a little hint. I like to have sex. Rob. I like sex. Didn't in the beginning of the villa, I think it with andrea you looked at her and you were like i'm sorry like i haven't ejaculated in a really long time like i'm having a hard time like that you don't understand i saw a clip of that and and i think that really was a part of why i

was so emotional going into love island is crazy you don't understand you're on no sleep yeah you have no alone time which is huge for me because that's how I process my emotions. I have to be alone. Okay. So I couldn't figure my shit out. And also I was horny as fuck. Well, you eventually came. We'll talk about that.

Okay. Are you enjoying the attention or is it freaking you out? It's freaking me out. Okay. What is the biggest turnoff to you? Bad breath. Did someone have bad breath in the villa? I'm not.

Yeah. I'm not telling you. No. And did everyone know about it no only you no it wasn't in the villa fuck i can't say it anymore okay moving on all right um how do you think the women obviously like everyone's having feelings about you as you've gotten your phone how do you think the women are feeling about you in america um, basically, I'm a toxic gaslighter, but I'm hot enough that it doesn't matter.

That's it. That's the consensus I've gotten. I've seen so many TikToks of like, this man is a red flag. He's terrible. I hate him. I can't stop looking at him. I love him so much.

It's just weird. How does that make you feel? I feel like it's not true, but it's kind of true. I'm not, I don't feel like I gasp. I don't feel like. I don't feel like I do, but maybe I do. I don't know. That's exactly how I feel.

I haven't processed it yet. Like, did I do everything right? Absolutely not. Did I make mistakes? A hundred percent. Do I regret things I did? I think every decision I made made i would have eventually made i think i was put in these like small time frames where my issue was my communication okay and it

partly was because i didn't know how i was feeling okay to your credit i will say to you i feel like you were up front at all times with everyone and maybe you weren't like the most articulate and like long form sentences about it, but you did tell people upfront how you were feeling in moments, even if it upset people, which I feel like there were other people in the villa that like would skirt around the truth because they knew it was going to hurt someone. Really. It's like, just tell people the fucking truth. So you don't look like a piece of shit because all of this is on camera. You know what I mean? Exactly. Okay. I agree with you on the conflicted thing.

I think people are like, I'm in love with him, but I feel like he'd break my heart slash maybe he's a little bit of a red flag. What is it like to date you, Rob? Take us through the journey. Like, what do you think it's like to date you? I don't love people. Okay. I'm not a people person. But I love my friends.

Hmm. How do I get into this? Okay, let's say we're going to go on a date. Okay. Let's just say first date. Okay. I would prefer to do something where it's just the two of us and quiet. We get to know each other.

I'm not a big concert guy. I don't like going to the club. I'll go to a bar. But I'm like there's too many people here uh-huh um so what's your ideal first date I would say like a picnic picnic I like a good picnic okay go to the creek go to the river go to the beach okay bodies of water are typically good for picnics okay I find okay okay I guess if all of your exes were in this room right now, what would they say about you? I think my last girlfriend would have a lot of good things to say and a lot of bad things to say. The one before that, same. I think same.

I think with my last relationship, I mean, I don't want to talk too much because like that's her business too but like i think the wheels kind of fell off at the end and it went longer than it should have and i think that was like really it came down to like communication and and i think it was hugely on me um and it's like one of my biggest regrets uh is like putting her through the months of like the end of our relationship like yeah because i did love her and like i i fully believe she loved me too and it was like just knowing you did that to someone that you care about what you just like weren't communicating with her how you were feeling i i just was like depressed okay and that's not an excuse yeah when you care about somebody you still have to like figure that out but like i i didn't know how i felt about myself and i just couldn't give her what she needed and i just sort of walked away way sooner how long was that relationship it was about two

years okay is that your long on and off like we broke up we got back together it was one of those it wasn't a lot i think we broke up twice okay but like yeah it wasn't a lot. I think we broke up twice. Okay. But like, yeah, it wasn't like back and forth. How long has been your longest relationship? That? Okay. So it was communication? Largely. Okay, we'll get back to that.

This was not your first time on Love Island. You were in Casa Amor last season, but you didn't make it out of the villa. Why did you want to go back to the show? They called me. They said, what are you doing? And I was literally saving a turtle crossing the road. I was in a great mood. I was on my way to Arkansas to go catch a bunch of snakes. I was wearing these overalls, like true story. I was wearing these overalls. I had just caught a copperhead. I was on cloud nine. I was having a great day. And someone called me. They're like, Hey Rob, what are you doing? You single? I said, why are you

interested? And, uh, and they're like, no, you want to come back to Love Island? I was like. I thought about it and I was like, you know what? Like my plan for the summer was just catch snakes all summer and just like make videos and stuff. And I was like, fuck it. Like, I'm not really doing anything. Might as well. I'd love to find a girlfriend. Didn't work out. So you were looking for a girlfriend. Were you looking for a wife or do you not? You think you're there yet? I'm looking for a girlfriend were you looking for a wife or do you not you think you're there yet i'm looking for a girlfriend that i would marry okay like like i do i do i'm like dating to marry at this point okay and that's why i'm not wasting anyone's time like i'm not gonna get into something that i if at any point i don't see that future progressing

to that like i'm gonna get out how many times have you been in love i think once okay i told two of my girlfriends that i loved them and i think i meant it with the girl yeah but then i i realized i really meant it with yeah yeah do you think that your ex-girlfriend watched the season of love island no definitely not but she definitely saw stuff okay it's time to relive it let's go through it let's go through love island let's don't look so sad i like this candle if for sure do we have a lighter you don't Okay, it's time to relive it. Let's go through it. Let's go through Love Island. Don't look so sad. Can I light this candle? For sure.

Do we have a lighter? You don't need one. It's messy. Oh, I don't know if you can do... I don't think it will work. I don't think so. Oh, okay. You're trying to set the vibe so you can be calm. Yeah.

I'm just calming down a little bit. Are you anxious right now? It just, I'm just uncomfortable. Why? I don't know. I like you though. Okay. I like you too.

Do you want to like take your shoes off? No. Or do you want like a blanket? Do you want anything to make you cozier? Don't be anxious. I promise you, you're doing great. Oh, thanks. You're doing really good.

We've got a blankie. No, it's okay. I don't need a blanket. No. Why are you uncomfortable? I just, I just, um, I'm not uncomfortable. Yeah. I'm, I lied. Okay. I'm fine. So you are a liar. I'm just kidding. Um, okay. But you're just uncomfortable because this is a lot for you. It's like new. It's very fresh. And like I said, like it takes me a while to process my emotions and how I feel about everything. And right now I think some of the things I'm not really like I'm not I haven't processed it so like this is I mean I just got back from Fiji I just left yeah and so like right

now it makes me nervous to talk about these things because like emotions are kind of high and like I just don't want to like okay well I think it's you know yeah I think it's fair that we can say for everyone watching like to clarify again like you literally got on a plane, you got your phone on your way to the airport, you got on the plane, you landed here and we're doing this. Like this is not like a month later or even like a week later, like you have barely had time to like even see all the fan edits on TikTok. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like this is fresh. So I think that's good to clarify. And like when we're talking about this, it's almost like you're still on the island. And I'm sure if I interviewed you a month from now, you're going to have a complete different perspective. That's exactly what I'm thinking. For sure. Like that makes me nervous. We'll do a follow up. OK. So we'll compare notes from now to a month from now or a year from now. Where will Rob be in a year from now? We'll talk about it. OK. You get get into the villa you're an original cast member and the first person that you are coupled up with on day one is leah what was your first

impression of her i really liked her a lot i felt like i think it's pretty obvious that i'm a bit odd and i can be hard to read and i think it's hard for people to understand me especially my humor she got it right away and i loved that I loved that and I also thought she was really funny and obviously she's gorgeous um but seriously from the first night when I walked in there we just kept like locking eyes yeah and I was like man I really hope that we get coupled up tonight and we did and how long were you guys in the villa alone together before andrea came in two days well like yeah technically like it felt like a week but it wasn't because live came in and stole me first right but that was like i mean like i was with like there was never a moment where i thought i was gonna go with live instead of leah like it

kind of got clipped that way but like i was telling leah the whole time i was like, give nothing to worry about. Cause I was shocked when Liv picked me. Like we all were, we all were so sure she was going to pick Kendall. Yes. I agree. I was pretty shocked too. And then you were like, you and Leah were pretty upset. Like you wanted to make your way back to each other kind of. And like, we could feel that in the beginning. I think we could all feel like you guys really liked each other and you guys shared a brain cell. Can you fucking explain what that means? I don't, I don't remember how how that went down i just know that it was a thing and that we would give it to each other when we were talking because we were like it was a lot i mean like we didn't sleep the first night like we were like it's insane i'm telling you it's an insane experience

that's like built to get your emotions up yeah which is like it's good that's how it works it's like putting a relationship in a microwave like you know someone for a week you feel like you know them for a month like it's crazy well then andrea comes in and i remember you're sitting at the fire pit and you're like oh my god that is the most gorgeous woman i've ever seen in my life did i say that actually yeah you said that you were at the fire pit you turned to the guys you're like that's the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life. You also told. They put in the whole clip because it was that. I said, I hope she has a terrible personality.

You did say you did. Yes. And then but you also told Leah that you weren't attracted to blondes. I don't like blondes. So then what was different? She's not a blonde. She's brunette. She has blonde hair, but she's not a blonde.

OK. Yeah. She's got brown eyes, dark features. She's not a blonde. But she's currently a blonde. Okay. Yeah. She's got brown eyes, dark features. She's not a blonde. But she's currently a blonde. Yeah, but it doesn't... Come on. It's not the hair. That's not what makes you blonde or brunette to me.

Okay. I was just curious because obviously Leah was like, what the fuck? He said he wasn't into blondes. And then we have Liv and then we have Andrea. Well, also, like, I don't follow like a rubric of like, she has blonde hair. Done. Like, that's not... I don't really... When people ask me, I say I don't follow, like, a rubric of, like, she has blonde hair. Done.

Like, that's not, I don't really, when people ask me, I say I don't have a type. Okay. But I do typically like brunettes. Okay. Like, my track record, definitely more into brunettes. Yeah. So, when Andrea comes in, what was your first impression, like, during your first conversations with her?

First conversation, it was nice, but it wasn't, like, romantic. Like, I didn't feel feel i enjoyed talking to her like we apparently talked for like a really long time yes and i didn't realize that we were talking that long so like it went really well um but it wasn't like like it wasn't like i was i was still like pretty all in on leah at that point okay you can imagine how that's confusing though because you were spending a lot of time with her. Well, we had, we literally just had that one convo. That was it? Yeah. Before, before the next day she took me on a date, but that night we just had one conversation. Yeah. And so you decided to be upfront with Leah that you were kind of feeling Andrea in that moment, which I do think everyone like appreciated that you were upfront about it. You were like,

I'm really still feeling you Leah, but I do want to get to know her and I'd be lying if I didn't. Were you afraid to have that conversation with Leah? Of course, because I didn't want to hurt her. I still really liked her. Like I was like, that's something I think that people don't understand. Like there was never a point where I stopped liking Leah. And when, well, I guess we'll get to that, but yeah. Okay okay but as you can imagine from leah's perspective like that sucks to be like i'm gonna get to know someone and it's like oh fuck i'm not good enough that like you want to go try something different obviously were you worried that you would lose her yeah definitely it was stressing me out like it was stressing me out because i was i told myself

that i was going to get to know every girl and I was going to try to figure out who was going to be my best match no matter how much I liked the girl I was with okay because that's what the love I experience that's what you're supposed to do yep and that you know that's what they tell you and I'm like yeah I'm gonna do that and so I I was like I got and it was like a good enough conversation where I was like, I'm giving this a chance. Like, I'm just going to see where it goes. The love island experience is odd. Like it's not normal. Like in the real world, when you're single. You would never do that.

But are you usually at least talking to like a couple people at once? Like, do you have like a little roster? Not really. I'm not really like, I don't like talking to people that much. So like, it's usually. Are you bad texter yeah i'm terrible on my phone yeah so how do you communicate with your girlfriends calling facetime calling much better are you a facetimer or a caller i'm a caller but i will facetime okay

because yeah okay so in real life though you don't usually have like a couple women are people going to come forward and be like what are you talking about i mean yeah like it's definitely it's definitely happened like i've definitely been but i mean that's when you're single like yeah you're gonna get to know multiple people at a time but like it's not like i've never like dated multiple women would you consider yourself a romantic person yeah i'm a romantic art for sure what is the most romantic thing you've ever done for a girl probably took her to catch turtles at 2 a.m. Do you think that was your dream or her dream? I don't know. It seemed pretty special to me.

The moon was out and it was like, it was really nice. I enjoyed it a lot. It's quiet. It's kind of scary. So she's like, wants to be close. And it's like, I don't know. Turtles are cute. They are cute.

Yeah. That's cute. I don't know. Most romantic thing. I can't think of that off the top of my head. I used to i like making things a lot okay like what um i made a emerald necklace for my first girlfriend from an emerald that i mined in north carolina i think wow that's romantic yeah i like making stuff i'm i'm crafty like that okay yeah that's a good answer okay um back to love island okay the love triangle was clearly short-lived and can you walk me through

the infamous conversation with leah where she goes to basically confront you and is like hey what the fuck like i feel like you're spending time with her and then it blows up and the whole thing just it was basically like the last conversation that ended your guys relationship romantically yeah oh wait oh the one where i jumped in the pool yes okay that was kind of like yeah i know the breaking point okay take me to that conversation it wasn't for me at all if it seemed that way that's not how it was really it was like i don't know i haven't seen it so I don't know but I've seen clips obviously like on TikTok and stuff um I feel like it was condensed down to like I don't know how long but like it was a pretty long conversation that slowly got worse and worse and worse and worse and it was kind of like Leah was coming at

me like saying what she was saying which i thought was like perfectly valid and i kept telling her that i was like i get where you're coming from and like i'm trying to see from your perspective because i get that this is hurting you it would hurt me too if i was in your shoes and then every time i tried to talk she kept like cutting me off and she wouldn't let me speak and and then it started i started getting emotional and then I was like I just need to step away and then I started crying and I was like bro what the fuck are you doing and I think just crying induced like a panic attack like I was just I was I was fully freaking out I was fully freaking out and then I kind of got it together I went back down sat with her and she just started talking

again like saying the same things and and just didn't like act like what what set me off was she just didn't ask me like how I felt which I think that triggered a lot of people they were like it matters more what she feels in that moment and 100% I was the one causing this situation yeah and I was taking responsibility for that I was trying to but also like I just needed someone just to check on me in that moment. And for me up until that moment, she was that person. And I kind of felt like just that she didn't care at all, which isn't true. Yeah.

It was just she was really upset. And rightfully so. I feel like that was like a classic like you both were so hurt. And when you were both speaking to each other you both needed the other one to validate the other one and you both were so hurt that like you couldn't do that because you needed the person to be like no you're right and neither of you could give that because you were so upset yeah but why do you think you had a panic attack like what was it that was causing you so much angst it was everything it was it was knowing that i was

gonna have to choose between these two girls one that i just met but i was really like want to give a chance and i liked and then leah that i've just been so it's been great the whole time and honestly like i had no idea what i was gonna do yeah i really like i like and i didn't know it's very short windows of time where you have to make decisions and stuff and like i knew leo wasn't going anywhere yeah so i don't know i fucked up i was just like i think honestly had that not happened i probably would have stayed with leah i think because that was after that happened i was like i was like well that was terrible and then at that point like my head was i feel like after that my gut was telling me like like you should just go with Andrea but my head was still like you really get on with Leah yeah like it's really good but I was hurt and I should

I wish I could have just something I needed to hear in that moment that I wish someone would have came up into me and said was advice that I gave everyone else later down the road was you need to just take yourself out of love island for like 10 minutes and just realize you just met these girls it's not that big of a deal why are you so emotional like really like pick it apart because I didn't know I was like why am I crying so much I like and I thought that but I didn't know. I was like, why am I crying so much? I like, and I thought that, but I didn't take myself out of it completely. And I think if I had done that, I think it would have been a lot different. Okay. But to your guys' credit, like, it's like, you guys are in this like experiment box and like, you can't take yourself out of it. That's the beauty and the hard part of it. Like, I get it. You're like, wait, if I had gotten to

just like go home for five minutes and like talk to my family and hung out i would have come back and been like listen ladies like let's all get to know each other it's not that deep whoever picks who like we're all still here let's just keep hanging like we've known each other for 24 hours like but in the moment it's so intense because it's also fucking with people's like time while you're there and can someone almost get sent home like it's so many dynamics that like it is heightened um you made a pretty fucked comment in that conversation about how there was no sexual connection i did not say that yeah i did not say there's no sexual connection you weren't feeling the sexual connection between you and leah did i say those words yes that's exactly what i said you said i mean we can look it up you said basically like you were not feeling

the sexual relationship i yeah it was uh i felt like our we weren't like we didn't know what each other wanted like it was kind of like a weird thing because you guys like you had made out right yeah we made out like a couple times and it was good it wasn't bad i was just like i don't know why that came up but uh but yeah i was just letting her know like i'm in that it there like you said anything you don't say to somebody is wasting their time and like like i felt like i needed to be as transparent with everyone as i could and so what were you feeling because you clearly have a sexual connection with her, no? Or no? Yeah, but it wasn't like, I feel like we didn't click sexually. Does that make sense? Found her really attractive, everything.

But when we kissed and stuff, it was like, it felt like she was holding back. She told me, and she said she was. Like, she said, oh, that's because, she said it was because the first night when we had our first kiss, I said, please be gentle. I was joking before we kissed. And she said, that's why. She said that from then on, she like would like hesitate,

like kissing me and stuff. And she said that was why. And do you think if that. I was like, well, that makes sense. Cause that's what it felt like. It felt like I couldn't tell if she wanted to kiss me whenever we, we like make out.

And I'm like, does she want to stop? Like, I couldn't tell. It was really weird. And I'm glad I told her because, well, I don't think we made out again after that. But I told her that and she was like, oh, yeah, I was holding back. Because you said that the first time we kissed. I was like, that was a joke. Because I think, obviously, like, that sucked to see.

Because I, on her side, just like, as a girl, you're like, fuck. Like, there's no rebuttal. It's like saying you have no chemistry with someone. Yeah, but am I wrong for, like, that no no yeah and i think she understandably was so upset by that comment and then she slept outside that night because i think she went to serena after that was like i literally feel like what the fuck like i feel like gross like i'm like oh my god am i not sexually attractive to him but that's not what you were saying not at all and i told her that okay you gotta understand these conversations they're like max five minutes long yeah that was at least an hour yeah at the very least there's

probably more of us talking up there in that moment when i was watching and you can clarify it felt also like you were saying that and i could be wrong but I feel like the viewers kind of felt this way and you when you shared that with her you use that an example of like why you basically were gonna maybe like try and make things work with Andrea I mean maybe but no like it was more of just telling her everything about us like on the table so if that did happen like she understands where I'm at like I didn't want I didn't want to blindside anyone and I feel like I ended up blindsiding her because I didn't get the chance to talk to her before the recoupling thing that was like that's one of my biggest regrets is I should have insisted because I wasn't able to get to her and I should have

been like no we're not like I need to talk to Leah before this like because I knew it was going to happen but yeah can you explain that you weren't able to get to her? Like today, they physically put you in different rooms and you can't see people. Oh, are you not allowed to talk about it? Yeah. Really? I think everyone knows that. OK, so I'm going to. Yeah, OK. I'll just assume that you guys are like it separated. I wasn't able to talk to her. That's all I can say. I didn't get I didn't get the chance. i didn't get the chance to talk to her and can we just like finish the conversation on how everyone thought that you were potentially crying to manipulate the situation i think a lot of people looked at the situation like wow he's in a position of power he's getting to pick between

these two women if anyone's crying yeah and he's crying like fucking leah should be crying if anyone's crying but she didn't obviously yeah and so people were struggling to know if the tears were genuine or if they were like a manipulation tactic to like make it look kind of like oh i'm this sucks for me too and like kind of get you out unscathed what do you say to that that's completely not true i mean you can ask anyone that i would never never want to cry like no definitely not that was completely genuine okay unfortunately um i wish it didn't happen at all the pool was there nowhere else to go so this is one of those things i should so in my head i wasn't planning on going to the pool but i saw it i walked down the stairs i saw it i was like oh i had noticed earlier that day

you could go up under the deck and there's no cameras there's no mics i just wanted to be alone i was like fuck this shit and i was like all right i'm going in there and so i took my clothes off i jumped in i went in there and then i got in there and i was like they probably think i'm killing myself or something i was gonna say i was like this is a terrible idea this was an awful idea so then i got out and then i just walked out and that's what i should have done i should have walked out because i needed to be alone that's what i needed but i knew they were going to stop me i knew if i walked out they were going to like stop me whatever but i knew there i get in the pool like what are they going to do fish me out like but yeah it was it was yeah

hindsight not the best choice what do you think your biggest flaw is when it comes to dating probably my biggest flaw it's hard to pick one oh okay let's list a couple we're here i think i think i definitely learned from this that i have an issue with letting people in um and letting my walls down i think i also struggle with like communication and i struggle with i think i procrastinate my feelings i think i'm feeling them but i don't i don't process them in my brain until i have to. And that is probably one of the biggest things. That's what I think happened with the Leah and Andrea situation,

where I think if I had just like, but then again, I was never alone. And I have to be alone to do that kind of thing. And I think if I was able to do that, it could have been so much better. I could have communicated to Leah a lot better. Because something about it is like, you can recouple, but it doesn't mean it's over. And I still had those feelings for Leah. And I think if I could have talked to her about it i don't know what happened but like it would have been different why do you think you have such a hard time with letting people in probably just the way i grew up okay i was just like share kind of well like i'm a family i'm one of four

and i was just always more of the quiet one kept to myself didn't really i was like the middle child there's four of us but i was like you know what i mean like i just was like kind of independent um and i think a lot of times i just felt like people didn't care so like i just didn't ever and i still feel like that i feel like people don't care because they don't like realistically most people don't give a shit like they'll ask you but they don't really care so i just don't waste my time and telling people like usually i just kind of like keep on going until i i feel like it's something that matters i guess yeah you know that's why i think it's only in one-on-one conversation that i can like actually let my wills the walls down and talk because i think i gave every girl a chance and i tried my best

but i like looking back i was like damn especially like after the andre and leah thing it just like tightened me up even more like because i i hurt them and I knew that and it was my fault like yeah I fucked up um and I just it was hard for me to like keep going after that I think people felt that you kind of like shut off after all that happened do you are your parents still together they got divorced like two years ago oh I'm sorry okay what is your relationship like with your mom it's really good and your dad it's good okay it's good yeah my mom is a lot like me she's like very witty and funny um she's hilarious you would love her uh and then my dad is he really artistic and he's very handsome and that's like his thing he's really handsome yeah and that's his thing

you should yeah yeah he is but well no and being an artist he's an artist okay so you kind of got like a little bit of i did i got both i got both those things so that's good i got i got some of their best traits and i got both of their worst traits what are their worst traits my mom is really emotional and sometimes says like says and like thinks things emotionally sometimes, which I do, which I've really worked on, like I think. And then, yeah, I got some stuff from my dad, too. You're like, I don't want to say what I got from my dad moving on. That's fine. I respect it. Is there a theme?

I know you kind of talk about communication, but I want to know a little bit more. Like, is there a theme of why every relationship you've had has ended? Yeah, I think I think there is. I don't this is really going to be sad, but it's just I don't think that I can. I've been able to let someone all the way in. And what do you feel when you like start like someone starts to get? I feel like I reach a point and they keep going. I can't.

Why do you think that is? I don't know. Try. I didn't know this was gonna be that deep also i need to turn my phone off turn it off you're not allowed to look at your phone when i ask you a deep question go ahead why do i think that is i think i have gosh this is really i thought this would be more fun um i don't know it'll be it'll get fun i think i i think i need therapy to be honest i think therapy yeah i think that's a good answer yeah i think i don't love me and i really don't give a shit what people say about me because mostly time

i'm saying to myself already like when i got, I saw all the horrible things people were saying about me and I was like, ah, beat you to the punch. Like I've been saying that shit this whole time. So I think I need to get over that before I can like really, and I've, I'm a lot better. I'm way better than I used to be. I used to be like really bad. Like I'm my number one, I'm just hard on myself. And I think that comes with being an artist i consider myself an artist i love creating things i love making things and i think that's just part of the mentality is like you can always be better like it's never perfect yeah which is not a good mentality to have like you can't be perfect it's literally impossible um but i know i'm very far

from perfect and i'm starting to accept it more and more and i think like i don't know i've i've like hurt people in the past like i don't know I've I've like hurt people in the past like I like I said with my last girlfriend like I fucking hurt her and it still tears me up like and it's completely my fault there's no one to blame but me there's no good excuse for it and it's just like fuck I just carried around I yeah i appreciate though and i think a lot of people watching this will appreciate rob that you're like you do take accountability in what you're you're saying you're like i know i fucked up i know i'm the one that fucked up i i want to like figure out my shit there's so many people one of your friends that we saw this season that like doesn't

take accountability and is like acting like, no, I didn't do that. Like, what are you talking about? I didn't do that. You're like, no, I did that and I fucked up and I don't know why the fuck I did that. Like, I think that's progress. I think that's like the first step to actually like understanding why the fuck you make certain decisions. Yeah.

Right. I try to be a good person. I really do. Do I think I'm a good person? Yeah. Actually, yeah, I do try to be a good person I really do do I think I'm a good person yeah actually yeah I do think I'm a good person I I I think of others often and I try but I'm not perfect and I mess up and I want to be better I guess is what I'm saying like I I've never been in a point in my life where I'm like this is as good as it gets I'm like this but no I always want to keep getting better and I think I. Do you think that this process made you realize more that you want to keep working on yourself? A hundred percent. I mean, like I was working on myself before it, but like

that's one of the valuable things I got from this is I was able to look at myself in conflict. Like, how do I react in like when I'm angry? do i act when i'm really hurt like i can literally go and watch it like yeah um and that's like super valuable it really is because you can see and that's something that leah got from this too because leah was i mean she said some awful things about me and claimed to never have said them when she told talk to me like what that she said that was a little bitch and that i gave her the ick because of it. And like, just like some crazy shit that I've seen. I mean, I've seen some clips, but she never admitted to that once until movie night.

Like she said she didn't say that. And then at one point she was like, I may have said some things. And I was like, but I fully, fully believe Leah didn't. She didn't. Like, I think she says things that when she gets emotional and then it just never happened like she doesn't actually feel it she didn't say it I think that kind of happens with her at least I don't know in that in that regard I feel like your thing this season was like you run when things get a little hard like you physically run under the pool you would like walk away from things you would go to soul ties by yourself and

like stand there. And like, I think you do you do that in your real life? Like, do you kind of like remove yourself when things are getting a little complicated or heightened? I would say, yeah, at times. But also I would say I have to do that sometimes because like I said, I'm serious. If you were just sitting in a room with me, I wouldn't be able able to think about my feelings it's really weird I I really need to be alone to process how I'm feeling and journaling helps a lot and you can't I couldn't do either of those things oh you couldn't journal you can't no because beach hut is your journal sorry I'm not supposed to talk about that oh okay it's like the cutaway right oh it's like your confessional yeah confessional is your journal yeah right but staring into a camera is a little also like

the amount of things I've written in my journal that I don't mean. You just say it to get it out. And then I'm like, OK, I don't feel that way. Move on. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just how I process. So you then couple up with Andrea and you were together for four days. Yeah. And obviously, like you went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea. Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced? you went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea like what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced so after like everything that happened with Leah I was like okay I made the right decision like I just that's just the way I saw it I was like I was like this was nuts like this we've not known each other that long we had

this whole thing which it was mostly my fault yeah like I feel like it was mostly my fault that it happened that way but I mean I mean she'll admit some fault in it as well but I feel like it was mostly my fault but it just didn't work and I thought it was like okay our communication styles whatever i was like i was like okay well i made the right choice like things with on great dre are really great and it was it was an amazing four days we had like i was like smitten like i really was like i was having a great time and you can tell you seemed it you can tell um i just thought she was like so much like just good like i don't know i like talking to her i love the way she talked about her family and it just felt really romantic like it just felt romantic this like the best way I could put it I

felt romantic when I was with her in the moment of those four days and I want to clarify because I feel like a lot of people are like you fucking knew each other for four days like four days seems like what in love island time that's like a month like like a week a week is like a month it seriously is like it feels like you've known them forever because literally you're with like usually you date a girl you may go on a date you'll see her maybe next week or in a couple days or and you're like you'll text the whole time whatever but like there you are with them at any opportunity you can and you have to talk about how you feel about everything. You're immediately talking about how many kids you want. And then if, so if you like them, that progresses really, really fast. That's a good point too. Like

women think about this. If you're listening, like you get upset after a fourth date, if a guy ghosts you and you're, cause you're like, well, we went on our fourth date, fourth date, fourth day for you for almost 24 hours of basically hanging out sleeping together oh it's like our 20th day yeah yeah okay so it got super emotional and then obviously when elimination came around the girls decided to send andrea home yeah and the world was fucking shocked like people online were like this is the craziest episode that we've ever seen in love Island history. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. And obviously you were shocked.

What do you remember feeling when you heard her name called? At first, I was just mad. I was like, this makes no sense. This makes no sense. We had the strongest connection of most of the people in the villa at the time, like, let alone who was up for elimination. And I was like, I was just baffled. I was baffled. i was like i was just baffled i was baffled i was like how does this make sense um and then i was like fuck it i'm leaving yeah so you immediately stood up and you were like now you're sending three home like well it wasn't immediate that

that probably that's longer okay like we're sitting there we're talking we're like there's a back and forth between the girls and the guys okay blah blah blah and then finally like i'm sitting there and i'm like all right yeah nah and the errands like no no no no no no and i got up and i was like yeah i'm leaving so you say you're leaving yeah and then you don't leave yeah i understand your like explain your reasoning to maybe people that forget why you didn't leave all right so once again that was a three-hour process of me trying like wanting to leave and like having conversations with people and they're like no you shouldn't like so it wasn't 30 minutes no okay no she that she did have 30 minutes back and I had that conversation with her but after she left I was like no fucking no like I had a conversation

and they're like no you should say blah blah like it's so dumb you've only known her for four days blah blah and i'm like okay fair enough but then right after that i was like no i'm leaving like i'm like no like i'm i'm actually leaving and i just had a lot of conversations blah blah and they convinced me to stay the night and then the next day i calmed down and i was like okay yeah like i came here to find the best connection it was going amazing with her and i was like okay yeah like I came here to find the best connection it was going amazing with her and I think like you know like the honeymoon stage of a relationship we were at that we were at that point where I was like this girl could do no wrong I was just like so keen like I was just happy gone and I was like fuck like I don't know like it was just a bad

time like literally the next day I could have been like oh like I don't know like it was just a bad time like literally the next day i could have been like oh like i don't know about this you don't know but but i i was like who knows who else might come in here like you know because it was still early days yeah and so i was like i mean yeah it does i don't want to get out of here get with her it doesn't work out which statistically very high probability that we would not work out um and then I'm like damn what could have been do you regret the way that you responded though in that moment because you obviously got Andrea's hopes up yeah 100 100% I regret it I wish I wouldn't have said it but in that moment that's what I was doing like I was

set on leaving like I and for a while after that i was set on leaving even the next day but yeah of course you don't see any of that had she not got sent home do you think that you guys would have gone to the finale together i don't know i don't i don't know i don't know if it would have worked out i really don't like it was really really great but like it was still early days yeah like we had a lot to learn about each other and you know have you seen the tiktok that's trending that like you sat up there and you thought like you said oh you're sending three home now you're fucking in your overalls what now bitch yeah i've seen that okay it's kind of iconic no yeah no leah's hilarious like i i love like leah's great she's amazing yeah so after the elimination of Andrea, she's gone.

And Leah basically told you that she took a backseat in that decision of the process of sending Andrea home. And this caused so much fucking drama between you and Leah. You called her a liar. It caused drama between Leah and all the women. Now looking back, what do you actually believe happened? I think it was a lot of miscommunication okay from the girls to me from me to Leah and so so first of all I did not think Leah was capable of lying to me I really thought that we had I thought we had

something special and I did not think she was lying to me at all until that conversation that she had with me it was up on the upstairs thing she was she told me like and once again I haven't watched it I don't remember exactly what she said but I she basically said like she didn't talk shit about me and Andrea she didn't talk shit about me or like shit like that and I knew that wasn't true and I was like damn and then she said I took a backseat in the the decision and I was like, damn. And then she said, I took a backseat in the decision. And I was like, interesting. And the point of that conversation was not about that at all. For me, it was more about, is this girl lying to me? Because I still had feelings for her.

And I was thinking at this point, I was like, okay, maybe I should give this another shot. That's what the point. You remember when I pulled Liv in? Yeah, I was not trying to like. You can't even remember Kaylor's name. Kaylor. Sorry. I can remember Kaylor's name. Kaylor, I love you so much. You're like a sister to me thank you sister to me no no you're fine you're fine I'm interested to talk to you about all that but yeah okay okay um yeah when I pulled them

the only reason I did that is because I didn't want to like I knew Leah was gonna get upset and I just didn't want to have the conversation at all if they were like oh no she did I'd been like okay cool and I would have dropped it the only reason I pulled them is because I just wanted all the facts I wanted to know the truth before I went into it. Also, if she had been lying to me, I knew she was going to lie. And she did kind of deny everything when we started the conversation. And I was like, oh, okay. And then I just kind of felt lied to.

And then they just kept yelling at each other. And I was like, I don't even want to be a part of this anymore. That's not what I want at all. Also, people were saying that we teamed up on her. I talked to Leah by myself and she called live over she kind of i think she kind of thought live was going to be on her side and she just wasn't at all and then it was like bad it was i hated that moment because it was just like leah was just in between two people that disagreed with her and it was just it just wasn't fair for

her at all no i agree i think like understandably leah when she called live over thought that live was gonna be like oh yeah we got your back girl and then live was like no i'm gonna be real this is how i feel about it what happened and then in that moment it should have been like okay i didn't know that so live you and leah need to have a conversation alone let's you and i finish our conversation because i agree it became ganging up but then it was also tough because it's like yeah but you asked live and lives telling yeah exactly she asked for that yeah and and she was trying to team up on me yeah but i wanted the conversation to be really calm like i was trying to be really really calm yeah and then she just kept like saying these things and i was like this is not true and that's why i like lost my shit and i was like can you just wake the fuck up like

we like just be real with me. It's interesting because this isn't even a question for you. It's a question for production. And I think everyone on the internet is feeling it. It's like, why will they not just air the clip? Just air the clip of the girls in the huddle. And they never did. They never did. Oh, I thought I would get to see it.

No, we've never seen it. No one ever aired it. And I think a lot of people have a conspiracy that like leah was getting a bad edit so maybe it completely clears her name and they don't want to put it up or like i don't know what the fuck happened in that huddle but like they have never aired it based on what the girls have told me i don't think it does that i don't think it clears your name really no but that's once again he said she said which i don't want to talk about that yeah in a negative

way towards anybody because i don't like talking bad about people at all no but i get it like you're in the middle of this drama and everyone it's like this one thing everyone's like what the fuck was the decision and understandably everyone's gonna like say their piece but i just wish show us the fucking footage just show us the footage yeah just play and i thought we were gonna get that on movie night and we didn't we're like just play clear clear everyone's names get the truth i don't know production i would have loved to see that as well maybe i heard i heard like i heard what was said you heard what was said yeah did they ever hear that no i was told like specifically what she was saying why after that share it with the class i don't want to because i don't know it's

true who told you i don't want to say that either okay but you got i just it's just drama to me that's drama i like to know facts and if i know facts i will call you out on it and i'll like be like hey let's talk about this but i'm not gonna like start something over something i don't know is true or not like that's ridiculous to me no that whole thing just became so much bigger than it was meant to be. And it became about the decision that I wasn't. I was just trying to like talk about like how honest she had been with me. Yeah.

And I feel like the way she reacted made me feel like she wasn't being honest at all. Well, also, at the end of the day, no matter what Leah said in that circle, there were three, what, three or four girls making that decision. No, I would say it wasn't all on her. So. And I didn't care about that like she made the decision the what she just like you know i just wanted to know if she was being honest about taking a back seat i think that's what it became about it was never about that even if she was full like we need to get andre out of

here i wouldn't have been mad at her like i would have just liked to know if that was the truth i just wanted honesty okay that's all i wanted i wanted to know that i could trust her and you don't feel like you got that no i didn't i felt like i couldn't trust her at that time i was like and like now like looking back i don't know because i think it was really getting twisted around i agree by everyone yeah but myself included i think that i didn't remember things right from our first conversation but like i think everybody involved in that had a different narrative and then there was the truth and none of us were on it i don't think i know play the fucking but no one knows they should air that as like a bonus episode and it's like a two second

clip or it'd be like 299 they'd make so much money like an only fans link for that i would fucking pay for it um in the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners? In the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners when i first start something with someone i fully trust them that's like i'm not gonna date you if i don't and that's why i was like okay well i guess i'm not gonna date leah have you ever gone through someone's phone yeah once well like my first so my first college girlfriend that was the most toxic relationship i've ever been in okay on both sides i was toxic she was toxic we could not stay away from each other to save our lives broke up a million times got together back together a million times of course

craziest things also we're drinking all the time because it's college so the like that's the most toxic relationship i've ever been in it was it was crazy but yeah i went through her phone for sure she went through my phone too i would wake up and she'd have my phone she'd be like you motherfucker like like the crazy we have i have the craziest stories of like between us but did you find anything incriminating yes i know so have you been cheated on i mean we weren't together at the time right it was the toxic college thing where it's like yeah yeah yeah do you want to share a funny crazy story with us no no no why because she's she's a good girl and i wish the best and we both grew up you know

people can change and i don't want people to be like you did this you know do you think people will know who she is yeah definitely oh i didn't know that everyone from my own town will know she is oh and then it will come out yeah yeah, yeah. But I like Wish of the Best. I think she's about to get married. Oh my God. Yeah. Definitely don't share the story. Congrats.

Congrats. So proud of you. Out of that toxic shit with Rob. Yeah. On to healthier things. No, I think a lot of my ex-girlfriends are about to get married. I like prepare them. I'm like the stepping stone.

How does that make you feel? Sad. No, wrong. Sad. You're going to find your person. Maybe. Are you the jealous type? Yeah.

Yeah. 100%. Okay. 100%. Like how jealous? Jealous. I'm like more of like a protective jealous. But like when I'm dating a girl, like I'll kind of make it now.

And like I'll put myself in between her and whatever the situation is um yeah that's kind of like that okay um can we talk about aaron your boy your boy aaron throughout this season online sometimes people would joke that like you guys were the strongest couple in the i've seen a lot of that a lot of that well how would you describe your friendship i think like at first i was like i'm not so sure about this guy he's like the kind of the opposite of me in the way that he's like really loud and like loves to like he's just silly and like goofy and uh and i'm like that too but like only when i'm like really comfortable with people um but then like i got to know him and like he felt like family like he

he's like really like he's really sweet and he really like cares about everyone like he really did like like he would get sad when anyone was sad like specifically you though yeah yeah well like we we like became really really good friends like like he seriously felt like my brother okay during casa more now we like we really need you to give us some information, okay? To clarify this, we don't have to speak about this again. We watched Aaron basically cheat on Kayla with Daniela. Yeah, okay. Well, they were open.

Okay, they were open. But it was, like, pretty fucking slimy. I'm not gonna lie. When I saw the clips, I was shocked. Okay. I was shocked. And I was shocked the day that I saw him kissing her on the beanbag. I was shocked. Okay. I was shocked. And I was shocked the day that I saw him kissing her on the beanbag. I was shocked.

Okay. When it was time to return to the villa, you brought his girl, Daniela, back in with you. Right. And he returned as single so that he could present as loyal, basically, to Kayla. And he's like, I want you. What the fuck happened? Do not lie to me tell me what happened well i wasn't really getting on with any like i got to know the girls they were great girls

um sydney so funny like i thought they were really great girls but i didn't see like long-term relationship type things with most of them um and danielle had been talking with aaron most of the time um and we have like similar type as far as personality uh and the first conversation i had with her i really liked and he was telling me the whole time that i should talk to her and i was like i was like what and he was like yeah like you like i think you guys really get along and i'm like but because he i think he knew he wasn't gonna take her back and at that point he was like you should you should at least talk to her and see even though he loved her he knew he wasn't gonna take her back and at that point he was like you should you should at least talk to her and see even though he loved her he loved her he told her that he loved her twice daniella yes you have seen this he said he loved her uh-huh i haven't seen that okay did they

show that at movie night no that's what's been so crazy online is everyone's like why the fuck was that not played at movie night i don't know if kaylor even knows that yet she probably does now that she's out definitely does yeah i didn't know that oh it was like the biggest thing on the internet really i haven't even seen it on like anything i haven't seen it flipped or anything yeah oh well what was the question anyways so how the fuck did you come back to the villa with daniella well yeah so i literally didn't get a chance to talk to her that much at all um and then i did i talked to her and i was like well i was like i liked her value like where her values were and i liked like once again like she's very family oriented like me and she loves animals she wanted to be a vet i was like okay i could see something here so i was

like my and like what am i gonna do go back single to no one to live you did say you liked her right before you i thought i i was actually really close to doing that exact thing i was really close to going back single and just being like live what's up you want to hang out yeah i was i was really close to doing that okay i seriously thought about it but i was like like our like, Liv and I both knew, like, we get on and like we get each other's humor. And like, I find her really attractive. But like, it was like, it's more of a friendship for sure. Like. So did Aaron ask you to bring Daniella back?

No. Hell no. Hell no. He didn't want me to bring her. Oh, actually, he did. Thank you. He did. But then after that, right, like immediately after that, he was like, terrible idea. Don't bring it back.

Right. Okay. So he did. So he did articulate that. That's true. I forgot about that. Thank you. Can you please tell us about the conversation? Oh, fuck. I don't really remember that well, but he was like, he, he like called, he pulled me for a chat and he was like oh yeah she took it really really well the way that when he said that he was done like he wasn't gonna take her back whatever she took it he said like she took it with like such grace and like she was so kind and she just said really nice things about him and stuff and he was like oh dang like that was really cool um he's like you're gonna like her a lot you should hang out with her but like yeah and was like, you should take her back. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot about it. I forgot. I totally, but it's because the reason I forgot about it is because maybe 10 minutes after that

conversation, he was like, please forget everything I just said. That's an awful idea. I'm going back to Kayla and I really like Kayla. Like, let's just don't bring her back at all unless you really want to. And I was like, okay. And just for like anyone who for some reason is watching this and never watched Love Island, basically the point is Aaron was coupled up with Kayla, goes into a new house with all new women, is making out with this new girl, and then basically asks Rob to bring that girl back into the villa on his accord.

So that like... Well, he did not say... He said only if you see something with hers like if you want to bring her back do it but like it was like yeah it was like i guess implied like that he thinks that she's cool but i don't but i'm telling you literally 10 minutes after that he's like freaking out everything i said so wrong i don't know what the hell i was thinking yeah i'm a dumb ass do not do that unless you really want to and then i was like i got to know her and i was like i was like there's enough there that i want to see where it goes yeah we didn't have a lot of time did

you feel like a dick doing that to kaylor um yeah i did because i care about kaylor she's like a sister to me but i also thought about it like okay okay, well, at least like she's going to know like, and I was wrong, but at least she's going to know that he's being honest because she'll tell him everything. And then she didn't. I've seen that as well. It's fun. Yeah, I know. I know. But that was like my silver lining.

I was like, okay, yeah, like this is going to be weird. And it sucks because like Aaron's my best friend and Kayla is his girl and like I want to be able to hang out with them all together but honestly like Kayla really took it with grace like and and she got along with Danielle enough that like we could all kind of hang out but like I don't know things yeah yeah Aaron is kind of in the doghouse on the internet I know he's kind of the villain of the season I know well yeah yeah and i and i think he's gonna be okay because i think what i've just told him over and over again is you fucked up you got to take accountability and as long as you keep doing that i think it's gonna be okay because i promise you

this he loves kayla he really does wow he cares about her so much and it was killing him even in casa like he was like i remember one day specifically it was after he kissed her he sat in the room for like hours and just stared and was like what the fuck have i done blah blah blah um and he really cares about her a lot he He really does. Yeah, but he gets really emotional for you. There are so many clips of like his emotions towards you versus everyone else, even Kayler. Like he was sobbing when he thought you were going to leave. It's kind of cute. So for the rest of your time in the villa, you obviously kind of like didn't find that connection that was as strong as Andrea or Leah.

And I don't know if you've seen all the fan edits. You have seen all the fan edits of you and leah i've seen a ton i mean how could i not they're fucking everywhere the entire world like wanted you guys to end up together would you ever try to make it work in the real world um i think after everything i think we will be amazing friends and i think I'd rather just focus on that for now. Like, like love being around her. She's an amazing person. She's so fucking funny. Like I'm like laughing the whole time I'm with her usually. Um, but like, I mean, I think, I also think Miguel is a really great guy. I love Miguel and we're actually really similar, uh, which I didn't see coming at all. Like some of our some of the way we think. But yeah, I think I don't know what's happened, obviously.

But I mean, no, I mean, I'm going to respect them and and her. And like, I just I just don't think that's like net like necessary at all. I think that we're great friends and that's like a great spot to be. And I'm happy with it. Like I'm content in that. Like I would be content being friends with her. OK. I don't think people like that answer i mean that's okay that's no that's the honest truth that's the honest truth yeah like i'm okay with being friends and i want to be friends

why do you think america is rooting for you and leah even though she has something good with miguel probably all the edits probably all the fucking edits you guys have made of us looking at each other and like I mean and we care it's like it's not built on nothing like we care for each other for sure I like I feel that she cares for me and I care for her um but yeah after everything like I just I think would be really really hard I mean it's kind of like the Aaron Kaler situation like that's going to be such an uphill battle for them to get through and i think like the best thing for us is just to like move on and be friends like seriously i think that's just the best thing was it as epic in the villa the like feelings that you guys had as compared to like these fan edits because you guys had this like it feels like this like unsaid like insane

attraction and it was this whole whirlwind and like did it feel that way most of the time no what i love that answer most of the time no there was definitely some moments where i was like damn like i cannot lie there was so definitely some moments where i was like damn but most of the time like a lot like i've seen a lot of them i'm like i'm like i don't even think she was looking at me in that like like like some of them i'm like okay but yeah like other times i'm like yeah i mean that was a nice moment for us right Right. But the edits have made it really like. It's definitely like hype, hyped up a lot.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And I think she would say the same thing. How do you think Leah feels about you now? Obviously, we saw your like grand final moment with her where you run up.

So funny. Didn't feel like that at all. Like. Really? I mean, in the moment it did. But like I literally just wanted to say bye and like let her know that I cared about her I thought she was great and I'm I'm glad that we got to get back to that point that's all I wanted to say but then it was like I don't know it was so much more emotional than I thought it was going to be

like in my head I was like this is not a big deal at all I'm just gonna let her know these things and then I let her know and then I was like oh that was of crazy. Like a little bit. It wasn't that crazy. But like, it seems a lot crazier on TV, I think. So producers did not make you do that? No, they didn't make me do that. Because everyone was like, oh my God, that felt too perfect that it was like produced. No. No, like other than like the lines they wrote me.

No, I'm playing. No, that was. Well, and it's like music goes into it, which like there was a music playing. Which heightens it up. While you're fucking saying that. Exactly, exactly. But you both did you say like, love you, which i feel like a not an i love you but a love you is pretty friend zoning yeah because it's like once you say love you to someone it's like oh wow because if

you were really going to be in a romantic situation you'd probably like save those words yeah yeah if you say that it's like i love you as a friend yeah for sure but you just said you guys are friends um okay i'm curious andrea she said after she left that she would love to rekindle things with you this probably is a while ago i know she's been like posting a lot would you want to give your guys relationship a shot in the real world or no i don't yeah i don't uh i mean i've been talking to her a little bit but it's not like i think i think once again like it's probably better if we just kind of like keep our distance for now like kind of like it's a lot has happened and she's been like posting a lot a lot yeah which is like i'd be lying if I was like, I was kind of like, Oh, it's a lot of things to post about, which sounds really bad.

But like, I do think she's a great girl. And I think she got it. Like, I think the reason she did that is like, she was, she went in there and did what she was supposed to do. She did nothing wrong, literally did nothing wrong. And she was always kind. Like she, when she left, I don't know if it was, I haven't seen it, but always kind like she when she left i don't know if it's one i haven't seen it but i don't know when she left she was in a position where she could have said a lot of mean things and been like y'all are some bitches for doing this blah blah blah did not say a word all she said was like how much she cared about me and then left

like i thought that was like so good and like i thought she handled herself so well the whole time which is why i was kind of surprised like she was like posting a lot of stuff but like i get she was she got like the most hate from anyone from the show so did you reach out or did she reach out when you got your phone i texted her i texted her i just said hey how are you like and then i called her well she yeah we called we facetimed for a little bit didn't talk about like anything like crazy just like wanted to see how she was doing because at this point i hadn't looked at really anything online and i was just like how are you doing like everything you know i was thinking about you a lot like blah blah told her my because i knew once she left she didn't know what happened and i think it was made to

look like she left i was like i'm leaving i did it and then i didn't give a fuck that was not the case yeah i was like you can ask as any person in there i was like i was so fucked like for that week after that like it was tough but like i did i did get better and i got over it like towards the end so like and i told i let her know like all that and i was just like because i felt guilty i felt really guilty about it and and at times i was like, I should have just left. Like, I'm such a bitch. Like, I don't know. I mean, like I said, I tear myself up. Yeah.

But rightfully so. Like, it was such a lose-lose situation at that point. Like, because I got emotional and said that. But yeah, I just kind of let her know, like, how it went, how I was feeling and everything. And she told me, like, a little bit about what was going on with her. And then that was it. And then we've texted a little bit. But I did start to see, like like all the stuff like she was doing I was like that's something

that I did not see coming from her she just seemed very no drama like in the villa so no drama like she like she said that like yeah and I just was really kind of set back by that when I saw that I was like oh interesting it is interesting because when I saw that. I was like, oh, interesting. It is interesting because I feel like that must be weird for you of like everyone was a certain way in the villa. And now that everyone's going to be done and it's coming out and everyone you're going to see everyone like, I wonder if you're going to feel the same type of way. Have you thought about that?

Like once you see them in the real world, like will you feel the same type of way about them as you did with like these kind of blinders on in the villa yeah it is like it's like when you're in the villa it's like tunnel vision and you get outside the tube's gone you know it's like you're just a girl yeah yeah still be like down to hang with her right or is she like not the vibe because it's yeah but it's not like the reason i'm having those thoughts it has nothing to do with me being out it has to do with me seeing what she's been doing while I was out like I was like um interesting and but I will just like last thing on it like I will give her like credit like I do get why she would be doing that if like people were coming at her but it was a lot okay I'm gonna say the names of women that you connected with on

like the um season and I want you to describe your relationship with them in one word you have no paper sorry one word yep or if you want to describe your relationship no one word that's great you got this this is a rob thing yeah that's why i said one word one word it's good okay ready i guess let me think do i know that okay okay cassidy. Sex. No, I had sex with Cassie. Cassie. But Cassidy didn't have sex with her. You couldn't hold out anymore. It had been a really, really, really long time and I was, it was, and like

after I was like, fuck Rob. You made it this whole time. You didn't have sex on TV. Your poor mother, you're like, everyone's gonna be like he never cared about any of those bitches. He's gonna fuck you know and i was like and then i was like you know what like i'm an adult she's an adult it felt right in the moment like it happened like it's and i don't regret it it's like it just happened did you do it in the bed when everyone's in the room yes rob that's a yes i didn't say shit no you did because this is a podcast that's bad journalism people

yeah you just gave me a yes in your eyes i didn't say shit because if you if it wasn't you'd say no i'm about to onion back up right no no we're not onioning we are so fucking peeled down you're doing so great you really have you're good at this i will give you credit thank you you're pretty good thank you you're a hard one to crack like i will say everyone at home that's like why don't you ask him this i'm trying but we have gotten progress okay so you did it in the room did you come like just on the sheets did housekeeping have to clean that up the next morning robert you used my full name that's some tea you've said nothing i'm fully that is tea i've said no words for what you're saying okay did your did any of the people on

the island know what happened until she said no one knew that was the funniest part i don't know how many conversations they put in but miguel like i think it was literally the next day he was like he was like yeah bro i just don't think that I could have sex in here like it's just not something I'm gonna do and I'm like dude me either bro and then Cassie was sitting right next to me I was like I was like dude me either like especially like in the room with everyone could never do that he's like he's like yeah bro like I mean honestly if someone did I would rate it but like I it's just something I wouldn't do and I was like I was like bro. Couldn't be me. Can't relate. And I looked at Cassie and she was like.

You're like, I feel light as a feather right now. God, you had been waiting for that. I wouldn't say I've been waiting for it. Not sex. I mean to like. Oh, I was like. Release. Fill up.

Okay, Daniela. One word. I'm trying to. You can use a couple words. Affectionate. Live. Strong. Andrea. Understanding. i'm trying to uh you can use a couple words affectionate live strong andrea understanding leah lovely oh now you got us all making like clips of that think about how many fan edits it's alliteration no lovely leah like come on chill the fuck out oh i want you guys to be together stop you're just saying that because of the edits you watch the edits they worked on you

and that's what you want they did work on me and i should know better i like know this shit come on come on okay okay if you had to go into the hideaway with one person from the season right now who would you go with that's nuts that's nutty ariana anyways she looked fucking amazing this season so good she was always wearing see-through clothes i was like what's up with her not really wearing clothes all the time how many times did you guys think she was a bombshell walking in um once but also i thought she was an islander when we she was sitting there with them when we walked in and i went around and shook everyone's hand i shook her hand i was like nice to meet you i'm

rob and then i was like oh yeah it was really there's a clip of like cordell at one point and everyone's like it's ariana it's ariana and cordell comes out he's like who the fuck is that he's blind as a bat he can't see shit it's so funny serena and cordell are so cute now i love them i love them both individually yeah so it makes me easy to like them as a couple you know what i'm saying like they had their struggles they're really dope but that's why i think they'll they'll be good i think because like they had a hard time they got through a lot yeah but like yeah they dope. Okay, who was the best kisser of the season? Andrea.

You guys did seem like you had a good little. Yeah, I would say Andrea. Okay, I need you to clear something up. During the body count game, your answer was mysteriously just completely skipped over. Really? They didn't air it. They didn't air it? So what is your body count, Rob? It was't air it. They didn't air it? So what is your body count, Rob?

It was probably because it was boring. What was it? 25. Is that a fake number? No. That feels fake. It's not fake. That feels fake.

It's not fake. It's not? No. It's a good estimation. Estimation? It's good. It's 25. It's 26 now.

Lucky number. Is it? Oh! No, it's not.'s 25 we 26 now lucky number is it oh no it's not 23 is lucky number fuck passed it is 23 you're not lucky number when i go to casino i put on red 23 okay do you go to vegas a lot i used to when i lived in la you lived in la i mean you could hardly say that i was here for a year why um work yeah rob thunder what just kidding it was a joke wait that was a joke so connor yeah yeah so so the picture they took for me for like my my picture everyone thought i looked like a porn star and so connor came up with the name rob thunder that was like me you kind of are giving porn star right now like i'm waiting for you to like gyrate on the chair not gonna happen you're not gonna do that though anyways um okay what is the weirdest place that you've ever had sex airplane airplane maybe like yeah that's a good one library library yep everyone's reading well clearly you could be quiet no one knew in the villa that you had had sex

okay are you actually taking a break from dating i know you keep saying it like you're thinking like you're you gotta chill on that like you're gonna have everyone as friends i just can't i can't imagine like trying to get to know someone right now i can't imagine like giving someone my full attention and like actually being able to be present like what are you thinking right now you need to like run home to alabama and like get in your bed and like no like get in the woods and like leave my phone at home i need to go in the creek and yeah i'm not kidding like i really need that it's like my therapy when you pick up your first snake what are you gonna do to it kiss it no no have you ever kissed a snake yeah of course if it feels right if the mood is right the mood's right we'll give a little little cutie okay so you're ready to get

back to the woods yep are you going to continue to be a snake wrangler are you gonna like start popping up are you gonna do the reality stuff are you gonna go back on another reality show like what do you think survived i have no idea they like they've asked me a lot like what i want to do from this because like the show is so big did the bet it did it's number one it beat every other show in america yeah it was the number one streaming insane uh which i did not see coming so like yeah like i think we should keep catching snakes i mean like if i get a really good opportunity like maybe like i said i'll be like ah fuck it whatever like that's kind of how i live my life like that's why i went on love island that's why that situation had like i didn't

apply for that you know like right so yeah something that comes across like i was like survivor oh i would do that like some shit like that are you going to see everyone for the reunion isn't there a reunion there's a reunion coming up are you excited are you nervous um i would say i'm nervous why i don't know i don't know just when i think about that the stress chemical in my brain comes out what stresses you out i'm procrastinating thinking about it no we have we're almost this is like basically the last question i promise we have two more questions okay so we'll take our time what are you stressed about going to this reunion well i feel like i feel like um i don't know i'm just interested to see like who's still together and like

how everything is going for everyone and just like everyone together again like i think a lot of people went to the internet and maybe some things have been said that are like not great about other people and um that's gonna be a thing for sure i mean but you have been kind of not causing drama i'm just being honest like anything i've said i'll be like yeah i said that i meant that so you have nothing to be worried about now no no i just the situation in general yeah that's just gonna be like not just me no not with me i'm thinking about other people like i'm like how the fuck is that gonna go like um why okay will you tell me off camera who you're the most nervous about i'll tell you okay okay okay okay but you're gonna go

and you're gonna be like drama free because you kind of what if miguel and leah aren't together i'd be like damn sorry guys i'd be like damn that sucks i was really rooting for y'all take their hands okay rob closing statement what would you like to say to the ladies of america who love or hate you hate is the closest emotion to love i'm. I'm just kidding. Thank you? I don't know. It's confusing.

I'm confused. You know something? I kind of saw myself, like after, obviously there was a lot of drama at the beginning, but after that, I just thought I was kind of a background character.

Like I didn't really feel in the show anymore. So I just was kind of like, yeah, whatever. I'm just chilling. And then I was surprised when I came out, it was like a lot of buzz

about everything about me. What do you think this episode is evoking what do you think we're giving today i don't know i blacked out i don't really know i kind of blacked out too i was i feel like i had to ask you the same question over and over to get you to answer and then we just kept going and i think we got a lot of answers right you did all the like the stuff i thought like all the like drama stuff right all that stuff it's all good like I'm I and I know you're not going to answer the questions of like who did you not like in the villa would you answer that no exactly you're shaking your head for those of you that are listening driving to work he's shaking his head I mean I mean just why would you want to talk about why would you want to focus on the negative

and that I know I know you're saying you're not i know but you know that people are gonna be like why the fuck did you guys not ask certain questions like when okay the one move moment from movie night when you saw leah making fun of you crying yeah and then she apologized and it seemed super genuine yeah that was great like that oh yeah that was okay so uh how did you feel about that so so after not leaving after andrea left i was like kind of regretting it a lot and that moment made me the most happy i was about staying that moment was so great for me like and for us i thought which was i really liked it gave us closure and it was in front of everyone which i loved because i'm not the kind of person that like i feel like there was weirdness in the villa about leah and i but i'm not the kind of person that's

gonna go to everyone and like give my side of the story, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm just going to like let my actions speak for themselves. Yeah. But in that moment, I was given the opportunity to like talk with her and stuff. And I thought it was really good for us. And then we had a great conversation after that. And yeah, we just like we got back to being friends and like it was good.

The heart rate challenge. Do you get a little excited? No. You did. I did did not you got excited for leah i got excited oh you mean like a boner no i'm just saying like you got the most the way you look excited that's how you said it you said it like a boner like don't make me weird you said it like that you said you get a little excited you winked at me you got a little excited like your heart rate went up the most for her. Crazy. That's why the fan edits are popping off, Rob.

I don't. I just didn't. No, I actually think Miguel is an awesome guy. He is. And it's going to be interesting to see. This is the fascination around the show. It's like he lives in the UK, right? And she lives in Calabasas.

It's going to be interesting for people. And same with Aaron, right? Like he doesn't. He's moving to America. Where does Kayler live? Pennsylvania. Oh my God, I'm from Pennsylvania. She's from a town of 6,000.

No, no, no. Is Aaron going to move there? Surely not. No, they're going to move to LA. Aaron will hate LA. I don't know. Aaron seems to love those flashy lights. He will hate LA.

You think? I hate LA. That's why i moved no offense it's great for other people too much concrete for me too much concrete yeah you need the woods okay rob is there anything else you want to say like do you feel like you got everything off your chest i'm sure after this i'm gonna think of a million things i'm like damn i should have said that but like let's leave it for now yeah i'll see you in a year we'll catch up we'll check in see how you feel about it all whatever you need

thank you Rob for coming on thank you this was lovely yeah this was a nice time it was good I was like it was good

like you didn't feel like it was it harder than you thought it was gonna be no was it more fun than you thought

it was gonna be yes that's good you came in here nervous yeah definitely I'm still nervous do you want to call dave portnoy yes i love dave portnoy wait you're a barstool guy not really but i like him he's just like cool i know people hate him but like i like him i think he's just dave i like

genuine people it was the same yeah yeah i like genuine folk i like people that are just themselves and they don't really give a fuck. And he's like that. Dave is very honest. Even if it hurts your feelings, he's honest. He's going to be honest. He's going to be Dave. I like that about him.

Okay. Let's go call him.