Call Her Daddy - Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)
Episode Date: March 14, 2025Rob (America’s favorite heartthrob) comes straight off the plane from Fiji to the Call Her Daddy studio to relive every moment of this season of Love Island. Get ready to peel back the onion ;) ...
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What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.
Rob, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob,
Rob, Rob. I feel like so many women around the world right now
have so many feelings and emotions towards you.
So today we're gonna really peel back the onion
and we're gonna get into it.
So that's good.
That's good.
Good luck.
Okay. So you just got off the plane from Fiji. You came directly here after getting eliminated.
How has it been like acclimating to the real world?
It's really, really strange. One of the big things is like neon isn't on everything.
Like neon signs, like the lights there.
I got really used to just seeing that every day.
I got to my hotel room and I was like,
it's so dark in here.
I had to like pause.
I didn't know what you were fucking saying.
You're saying like the way the villa looks is so bright.
Yeah, you get used to it.
You get used to like just being around like,
literally there's a neon sign on every surface. Like it's like lights up. Right. And I got out and I was like, it's so bright. Yeah, you get used to it. You get used to just being around like, literally there's a neon sign on every surface.
It's like lights up.
And I got out and I was like, it's so dark out here.
Okay, that's not kind of what I was asking though.
Oh, what do you wanna know?
I just, I don't know.
When you got your phone back,
Oh, right.
how did you handle all of it?
What did you first do when you got your phone?
I called my family.
You called your family.
I called my family.
They gave me my phone on the way to the airport
and I knew it wasn't gonna have service.
So I called my family in a group chat my phone on the way to the airport and I knew I wasn't gonna have service so I called my family in like a group chat FaceTime,
you know?
Immediately, I saw all their faces
and I was really nervous because I was like,
I was either worried that they were gonna be like,
hey Robert, how are you?
But they were all like, hey,
like they were so happy to see me
and they seemed like, they were like,
we're so proud of you, like you did so good.
You were yourself the whole time.
And I was like, oh, what a relief.
Okay, good.
Well, cause you thought there was a chance
they were gonna be like, you ruined our family's reputation.
You dragged our name through the rug.
I just didn't know.
Like I didn't know.
Cause like it's a TV show, right?
Yeah.
I know what happened.
I was there.
I knew that I was authentic the whole time, right?
But it can get clipped and it can get edited.
And they're like, yeah, you know.
Have you checked your DMs yet?
Um, mm-hmm.
What's going on in there, Rob?
It's honestly like at this point, like too much to even,
it's just a refresh and then it's like a new page.
Do you have any like celebs in there?
I had a really good conversation with Noah
from Stranger Things.
What?
That's so random.
You want to hear what I said to him?
Please.
I said the funniest thing back,
and I think it went over his head,
but it was so funny.
And then we just talked about the show.
Like he was just a big fan.
And I just talked to him about it.
Oh wait, should I not say it?
Well, he just said, he just, it was fine.
He said, I love you on Love Island.
You stole my heart.
And I said, thank you so much.
I love Stranger Things. Thank you Noah Schn thank you so much. I love Stranger Things.
Thank you Noah Schnop from the hit TV show,
Stranger Things.
I just gave him back like a bot response.
I thought it'd be really funny.
And he just said, thanks Rob, you and Lee should have won.
And then we just talked about the show for a while.
Is that like so surreal that like,
you have someone like that in your DMs?
Yeah, it was also worse that like,
I just didn't even think about it.
And I was talking to him and then my sister was like,
what are you doing?
I was like, I'm actually having just a casual conversation with the guy from stranger things right now
But it was funny have any women slid in a few. I'm pretty sure
Yeah
Any that you're like?
Well, I think right now at this point in time. I'm I'm pretty like
Emotionally drained. I don't know if I'm ready for any of that.
You're not ready.
But good to know they're there.
Whatever you wanna call it.
I saw that everyone was up in arms on the internet
about you got out of the villa and you followed Leah.
And then eventually you followed all of the rest
and Andrea and all of them.
But is it freak you out that everyone is seeing
everything you're doing or do you love the
attention? Come on, Rob. Look what you're wearing. You love
the attention. I had to wear them. Okay. Don't come for the
overalls. I had to wear them. I saw the memes and everything
and I was like, bro. I was like, you know, might as well.
Okay. First, talk to me about the overalls for a second. So
you did bring other clothes, obviously, but like was this
the first thing you packed?
No I didn't even plan on wearing these. So I brought these. So Love Island usually the intro
is you're like doing your job and you get a text and you're like oh time to go to the villa.
So I was that's what these were for. Oh do you wear these when you wrangle the snakes?
Sometimes yeah often sometimes yeah. So yeah so I brought them for that part. Okay. And then I was
like ah fuck it. So I just threw him in the villa bag that goes in.
And then I wore him and I was like,
dude, this is the move.
Because Fiji's really hot, right?
And I didn't have to wear a shirt, basically.
It was like pants, a little bib,
but it's very breathable.
It was comfortable.
But were you feeling yourself in it too?
Like, did you think the ladies
were gonna love the overalls?
No. No.
Definitely not.
They didn't like him there. Like, it wasn't a no. Are you currently doing D on D? Currently,
I'm not D on D. And what is D on D to people that maybe didn't watch the season of Love Island? D on
D is dick on denim. And can you talk about that? Because it feels a little bit masochistic. It
feels a little bit like rug burn. Do you know? No, no, no. It's not like that. You should. Well,
you can't try it. But I would encourage anyone out there to try D on D.
With a penis.
It's, yeah, you're penis-less,
so it's not gonna work for you,
but it's breathable and like, it's just nice.
Why did you choose to wear underwear today?
Well, I'm wearing my lucky underwear.
Thought I might need it.
What is your lucky underwear?
You don't need to show me.
You don't need to show me.
Oh, okay.
Okay, so that kind of sounds like a little bit of a kink.
Like you like your dick on denim.
What is some like weird shit that you like in the bedroom
that's maybe a little like unexpected?
I'm not gonna tell you that.
Yeah, you have to.
Oh, okay.
Oh.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's what Caller Daddy is.
You have to tell me.
What's something like a little like off the beaten path
that you like in the bedroom?
Off the beaten path?
Mm-hmm.
What? Come on, Alex. Come on. This is what the ladies want you. I just met you.
But you, everyone in America knows you. You just met me. I know you. You don't. You think you know
me. I know you. You know my story. You know I name my story, but you don't know me. No, no. I saw you
in the heart rate challenge. I've seen you in your cowboy outfit. I know you're getting up some kinky shit in there.
Give me-
I mean, you're not lying.
No.
But like, I don't really want to talk about it.
Okay, give me like a little hint.
I like to have sex.
Rob.
I like sex.
Didn't in the beginning of the video,
I think it was Andrea, you looked at her
and you were like, I'm sorry. Like I haven't ejaculated in a really long time, like I'm having a hard
time.
That, you don't understand, I saw a clip of that and I think that really was a part of
why I was so emotional. Going into Love Island is crazy. You don't understand it. You're
on no sleep. You have no alone time, which is huge for me because that's how I process
my emotions. I have to be alone. Okay. So I couldn't figure is huge for me because that's how I process my emotions.
I have to be alone.
So I couldn't figure my shit out.
And also I was horny as fuck.
Well, you eventually came.
We'll talk about that.
Okay, are you enjoying the attention
or is it freaking you out?
It's freaking me out.
What is the biggest turnoff to you?
Bad breath.
Did someone have bad breath in the villa?
Yeah, but I'm not telling you.
No.
And did everyone know about it?
No.
Only you?
No, it wasn't in Davila.
Fuck.
I can't say it anymore.
Okay, moving on.
All right.
How do you think the women, obviously, like everyone's having feelings about you, as you've
gotten your phone, how do you think the women are feeling about you in America?
Okay, basically, I'm a toxic gas lighter,
but I'm hot enough that it doesn't matter.
That's like the, that's it.
That's the consensus I've gotten.
I've seen so many TikToks of like,
this man is a red flag, he's terrible.
I hate him.
I can't stop looking at him.
I love him so much.
Like, it's like just weird.
How does that make you feel? I feel like it's not true, but it's kind of true.
I'm not like, I don't feel like I guess. I don't feel like I feel like I do. But maybe I do. I
don't know. I guess I haven't processed it. Right. Like I do. Do I do everything right? Absolutely
not. Right. I make mistakes 100%. Do I regret things I did? I think every decision I made,
I would have eventually made.
I think I was put in these like small timeframes
where my issue was my communication.
Okay.
And it partly was because I didn't know how I was feeling.
Okay, to your credit, I will say to you,
I feel like you were upfront at all times with everyone
and maybe you weren't like the most articulate
in like long form sentences about it,
but you did tell people upfront
how you were feeling in moments.
Even if it upset people,
which I feel like there were other people in the villa
that like would skirt around the truth
because they knew it was gonna hurt someone really.
It's like, just tell people the fucking truth
so you don't look like a piece of shit
because all of this is on camera.
You know what I mean?
Okay, I agree with you on the conflicted thing.
I think people are like, I'm in love with him,
but I feel like he'd break my heart slash
maybe he's a little bit of a red flag.
What is it like to date you, Rob?
Take us through the journey.
Like, what do you think it's like to date you?
I don't love people.
Okay.
I'm not a people person.
But I love my friends.
Hmm, how do I get into this? Okay, let's say, all right,
let's say we're gonna go on a date.
Okay.
Let's just say first date.
Okay.
I would like prefer to do something
where it's just the two of us and like quiet,
we get to know each other.
Like I'm not like a big concert guy.
I don't like going to the club. I'll go to a bar. But even then I'm like, there's to know each other. Like I'm not like a big concert guy. I don't like going to the club.
I'll go to a bar. But even then I'm like, there's too many people here.
So what's your ideal first date?
I would say like a picnic.
A picnic.
I like a good picnic.
Okay.
Go to the creek, go to the river, go to the beach.
Bodies of water are typically good for picnics.
Okay.
I find.
Okay. Okay. I guess if all of your exes were in this room right now,
what would they say about you?
I think...
My last girlfriend would have a lot of good things to say
and a lot of bad things to say.
The one before that, same.
I think same.
I think with my last relationship,
I mean, I don't wanna talk too much
because that's her business too,
but I think the wheels kind of fell off at the end
and it went longer than it should have.
And I think that was really,
it came down to communication
and I think it was hugely on me.
And it's one of my biggest regrets
is putting her through the months
of the end of our relationship.
Yeah, because I did love her.
And I fully believe she loved me too.
And it was like, just knowing you did that
to someone that you care about.
You just weren't communicating with her
how you were feeling?
I just was depressed.
Okay.
And that's not an excuse.
Yeah.
When you care about somebody,
you still have to figure that out.
But I didn't know how I felt about myself
and I just couldn't give her what she needed.
And I just should have walked away way sooner.
How long was that relationship?
It was about two years.
Okay, is that your longest?
Like on and off, like we broke up, we got back together.
What was one of those?
It wasn't a lot.
I think we broke up twice.
Okay.
But like, yeah, it wasn't like back and forth,
back and forth.
How long has been your longest relationship?
That?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So it was communication?
Largely.
Okay, we'll get back to that.
This was not your first time on Love Island.
You were in Casa Amor last season,
but you didn't make it out of the villa.
Why did you wanna go back to the show?
They called me.
They said, what are you doing?
And I was literally saving a turtle crossing the road.
I was in a great mood.
I was on my way to Arkansas to go catch a bunch of snakes.
I was wearing these overalls, like true story.
I was wearing these overalls.
I had just caught a copperhead.
I was on cloud nine.
I was having a great day.
And someone called me.
They're like, hey Rob, what are you doing?
You single?
I said, why are you interested?
And they're like, no,
you want to come back to Love Island? I was like, I thought about it. And I was like, you know what?
Like my plan for the summer was just to catch snakes all summer and just like make videos and
stuff. And I was just like, fuck it. Like, I'm not really doing anything. Might as well. I'd love to
find a girlfriend. Didn't work out. So you were looking for a girlfriend. Were you looking for
a wife or do you not think you're there yet?
I'm looking for a girlfriend that I would marry.
Okay.
Like I do, I do, I'm like dating to marry at this point.
Okay.
And that's why I'm not wasting anyone's time.
Like I'm not gonna get into something that I,
if at any point I don't see that future progressing to that,
like I'm gonna get out.
How many times have you been in love?
I think once.
Okay. I told two of my girlfriends that I loved them.
And I think I met it with the girl.
But then I realized I really met it with the last.
Do you think that your ex-girlfriend watched the season of Love Island?
No, definitely not. But she definitely saw stuff.
Okay, it's time to relive it. Let's go through it. Let's go through Love Island.
Don't look so sad. Can I light this candle? For sure. Do we have a lighter? You don'tive it. Let's go through it. Let's go through Love Island. Let's don't look so sad.
Can I light this candle? If for sure. Do we have a lighter? You don't need one.
Oh, I don't know if you can do how I don't think it will work. I don't think I don't think so. Oh, okay.
You're trying to set the vibe so you can like be calm. Yeah, I'm just calming down. Are you anxious right now?
It just, I'm just uncomfortable.
Why?
I don't know.
I like you though.
Okay, I like you too.
Do you want to like take your shoes off?
No.
Or do you want like a blanket?
Do you want anything to make you cozier?
Don't be anxious.
I promise you, you're doing great.
Oh, thanks.
You're doing really good.
We've got a blankie.
No, it's okay. I don't need a blanket, no.
Why are you uncomfortable?
I just, I'm not uncomfortable.
Yeah.
I lied.
Okay.
I'm fine.
So you are a liar, just kidding.
Okay, but you're just uncomfortable
because this is a lot for you.
It's like new.
It's very fresh.
And like I said, like it takes me a while to process
my emotions and how I feel about everything. And right now I think some of the things I'm not, like I'm not, I haven, like it takes me a while to process my emotions and how I feel about everything.
And right now I think some of the things I'm not,
like I'm not, I haven't processed it.
So like this is, I mean, I just got back from Fiji.
I just left.
And so like right now it makes me nervous
to talk about these things because like emotions
are kind of high and like, I just don't wanna like.
Okay, well I think it's, yeah, I think it's fair
that we can say for everyone watching,
like to clarify again,
you literally got on a plane,
you got your phone on your way to the airport,
you got on the plane, you landed here and we're doing this.
This is not a month later or even a week later,
you have barely had time to even see all the fan edits
on TikTok, you know what I mean?
Yeah. This is fresh.
So I think that's good to clarify
and when we're talking about this,
it's almost like you're still on the island.
And I'm sure if I interviewed you a month from now,
you're gonna have a complete different perspective.
That's exactly what I'm thinking.
For sure.
And so like that makes me nervous.
We'll do a follow-up.
Okay.
So we'll compare notes from now to a month from now,
or a year from now.
Where will Rob be in a year from now?
We'll talk about it.
Okay, you get into the villa, you're an original cast member,
and the first person that you are coupled up with
on day one is Leah.
What was your first impression of her?
I really liked her a lot.
I felt like, I think it's pretty obvious
that I'm a bit odd, and I can be hard to read.
And I think it's hard for people to understand me,
especially my humor.
She got it right away.
And I loved that, I loved that. And I think it's hard for people to understand me, especially my humor.
She got it right away.
And I loved that.
I loved that.
And I also thought she was really funny.
And obviously she's gorgeous.
But seriously, from the first night when I walked in there,
we just kept like locking eyes.
And I was like, man,
I really hope that we get coupled up tonight.
And we did.
And how long were you guys in the villa alone together
before Andrea came in?
Two days?
Well, like, yeah, technically, like it felt like a week,
but it wasn't because Liv came in and stole me first.
Right.
But that was like, I mean, like I was with,
like there was never a moment where I thought
I was gonna go with Liv instead of Leah.
Like it kinda got clipped that way,
but like I was telling Leah the whole time,
I was like, you have nothing to worry about. You have nothing to worry about. Like, cause I was shocked when Liv picked me. Like it kind of got clipped that way, but like I was telling Leah the whole time, I was like, you have nothing to worry about.
Like, cause I was shocked when Leah picked me.
Like we all were, we all were so sure
she was going to pick Kendall.
Yes, I agree.
I was pretty shocked too.
And then you were like, you and Leah were pretty upset.
Like you wanted to make your way back to each other kind of.
And like, we could feel that in the beginning.
I think we could all feel like you guys really liked each
other and you guys shared a brain cell.
Can you fucking explain what that means?
I don't I don't remember how that went down.
I just know that it was a thing and that we would give it to each other
when we were talking because we were like it was a lot.
I mean, like we didn't sleep the first night.
Like we were like, it's insane.
I'm telling you, it's an insane experience that's like built to get your emotions up.
Yeah, which is like is good. That's how it works.
It's like putting a relationship in a microwave. Like you know someone for a week,
you feel like you've known them for a month. Like it's crazy. Well, then Andrea comes in and I
remember you're sitting at the fire pit and you're like, oh my God, that is the most gorgeous woman
I've ever seen in my life. Did I say that? Yeah, you said that. You were at the fire pit and you
turned to the guys and you're like, that's the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life.
You also told- They put in the whole clip because it said that. You were at the fire pit and you turned to the guys, and you're like, that's the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life. You also told-
They put in the whole clip because it was that.
I said, I hope she has a terrible personality.
You did say, you did that.
Yes, and then, but you also told Leah
that you weren't attracted to blondes.
I don't like blondes.
So then what was different about-
She's not a blonde, she's brunette.
She has blonde hair, but she's not a blonde.
Okay.
Yeah, she's got brown eyes, dark features.
She's not a blonde.
But she's currently a blonde.
Yeah, but it doesn't, come on, it's not the hair.
No, I was just-
That's not what makes you blonde or brunette, to me.
Okay.
I was just curious because obviously,
Leo was like, what the fuck,
he said he wasn't into blondes,
and then we have Liv, and then we have Andrea.
Well, also, I don't follow a rubric of like,
she has blonde hair, done. That's not, I don't really, when people ask me, I say I don't follow, like, a rubric of, like, she has blonde hair. Done.
Like, that's not I don't really when people ask me, I say I don't have a type.
But I do typically like brunettes.
OK. Like my track record. Definitely more in the brass. Yeah.
So when Andrea comes in, what was your first impression
like during your first conversations with her?
First conversation.
It was nice, but it wasn't like romantic.
Like, I didn't feel I enjoyed talking to her. First conversation, it was nice, but it wasn't like romantic.
Like I didn't feel, I enjoyed talking to her.
Like we apparently talked for like a really long time.
And I didn't realize that we were talking that long.
So like, it went really well.
But it wasn't like, I was still like,
pretty all in on Leah at that point.
Okay.
You can imagine how that's confusing though.
Cause you were spending a lot of time with her. Well, we had, we literally just had that one. Okay. You can imagine how that's confusing though. Cause you were spending a lot of time with her.
Well, we had, we literally just had that one convo.
That was it?
Yeah. Before, before the next day she took me on a date.
But that night we just had one conversation.
Yeah.
And so you decided to be upfront with Leah
that you were kind of feeling Andrea in that moment.
Which I do think everyone like appreciated
that you were upfront about it.
You were like, I'm really still feeling you, Leah,
but I do want to get to know her
and I'd be lying if I didn't.
Were you afraid to have that conversation with Leah?
Of course, because I didn't want to hurt her.
I still really liked her.
Like I was like, that's something I think
that people don't understand.
Like there was never a point where I stopped liking Leah
and when, well, I guess we'll get to that, but yeah.
Okay, but as you can imagine from Leah's perspective, that sucks to be like, I guess we'll get to that, but yeah. Okay, but as you can imagine from Leah's perspective,
like that sucks to be like, I'm gonna get to know someone.
And it's like, oh fuck, I'm not good enough
that like you wanna go try something different, obviously.
Were you worried that you would lose her?
Yeah, definitely.
It was stressing me out.
Like it was stressing me out because I was,
I told myself that I was going to get to know
every girl and I was gonna try to figure out
who was gonna be my best match,
no matter how much I liked the girl I was with.
Because that's what the Love Island experience,
that's what you're supposed to do.
And that's what they tell you.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna do that.
And so I was like, I gotta,
and it was like a good enough conversation
where it was like, I'm giving this a chance.
I'm just gonna see where it goes.
The love island experience is odd.
Like it's not normal.
Like in the real world, when you're single.
We would never do that.
But are you usually at least talking
to like a couple people at once?
Like, do you have like a little roster?
Not really.
I'm not really like,
I don't like talking to people that much.
So like it's usually.
Are you bad texter?
Yeah, I'm terrible on the phone.
Yeah.
So how do you communicate with your girlfriends?
Calling, FaceTime is usually much better.
Are you a FaceTimer or a caller?
I'm a caller, but I will FaceTime.
Okay.
Because yeah.
Okay, so in real life though,
you don't usually have like a couple women.
Are people gonna come forward and be like,
what are you talking about?
I mean, yeah, like it's definitely happened. it's definitely happened. Like, I've definitely been,
I mean, that's when you're single, like, yeah, you're gonna get to know multiple people at a
time. But like, it's not like, I've never like dated multiple women.
Would you consider yourself a romantic person?
Yeah, I'm a romantic art for sure.
What is the most romantic thing you've ever done for a girl?
Probably took her to catch turtles at 2am.
Do you think that was your dream or her dream?
I don't know.
It seemed pretty special to me.
The moon was out and it was like, it was really nice.
I enjoyed it a lot.
It's quiet.
It's kind of scary.
So she's like, wants to be close and it's like, I don't know, turtles are cute.
They are cute.
Yeah.
That's cute.
I don't know.
Most romantic thing, I can't think of that. It's all in my head. I
used to. I like making things a lot. Okay. Like what? Um I
made a emerald necklace for my first girlfriend from an
emerald that I mined in North Carolina. I think. Wow. That's
romantic. Yeah. I I like making stuff. I'm I'm crafty like
that. Okay. Yeah. That's a stuff. I'm crafty like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's a good answer.
Okay.
Back to Love Island.
Okay.
The love triangle was clearly short-lived
and can you walk me through the infamous conversation
with Leah where she goes to basically confront you
and is like, hey, what the fuck?
Like, I feel like you're spending time with her and then it blows up and the whole thing just it was basically like the last
Conversation that ended your guys relationship romantically. Yeah. Oh wait. Oh the one where I jumped in the pool. Yes
Okay, that was kind of like yeah, I know the breaking point. Okay, take me
It wasn't for me at all. If it seemed that way that's not how it was really it was like I don't know
I haven't seen it so I don't know. I haven't seen it. So I don't know. But I've seen clips, obviously, like on J.
Talking stuff. I feel like it was condensed down to like, I don't know how long, but like
it was a pretty long conversation that slowly got worse and worse and worse and worse. And
it was kind of like, Leah was coming at me, like saying what what she was saying which I thought was like perfectly
valid and I kept telling her that I was like I get where you're coming from and like I'm trying
to see from your perspective because I get that this is hurting you it would hurt me too if I was
in your shoes and then every time I tried to talk she kept like cutting me off and she wouldn't let
me speak and and then it started I started getting emotional and then I was like I just need to step away and I started crying and I was like bro. What the fuck are you doing?
and I think just crying
induced like a
Panic attack like I was just I was I was fully freaking out
Slowly freaking out and then I kind of got it together
I went back down and sat with her and she just started talking again like saying the same things and
sat with her and she just started talking again, like saying the same things and just didn't like act.
Like what set me off was she just didn't ask me
like how I felt, which I think that triggered a lot of people.
They were like, it matters more what she feels in that moment.
And 100%, I was the one causing the situation.
Yeah.
And I was taking responsibility for that.
I was trying to, but also like I just needed someone
just to check on me in that moment. And for me, up until that moment, she was that person.
And I kind of felt like just that she didn't care at all, which isn't true.
Yeah.
It was just she was really upset. And rightfully so.
I feel like that was a classic, like you both were so hurt. And when you were both speaking to each other,
you both needed the other one to validate the other one.
And you both were so hurt that like, you couldn't do that
because you needed the person to be like, no, you're right.
And neither of you could give that
because you were so upset.
But why do you think you had a panic attack?
Like, what was it that was causing you so much angst?
It was everything.
It was knowing that I was gonna have to choose
between these two girls, one that I just met,
but I was really like, wanna give a chance and I liked,
and then Leah, that I've just been so,
it's been great the whole time.
And honestly, like, I had no idea what I was gonna do.
I really, like, and I didn't know,
it's very short windows of time
where you have to make decisions and stuff,
and like, I knew Leah wasn't going anywhere.
So, I don't know. I
Fucked up. I was just like I think honestly had that not happened. I probably would have stayed with Leah
I think cuz that was after that happened. I was like I was like well that was terrible
and then at that point like my head was I
Feel like after that my gut was telling me like like you should just go with Andrea
but my head was still like you really get on with Leah like it's really good but I was
hurt and I should I wish I could have just something I needed to hear in that moment
that I wish someone would have came up into me and said was
Advice that I gave everyone else later down the road was you need to just take yourself out of love Island for like 10 minutes
And just realize you just met these girls. It's not that big of a deal
Why are you so emotional like really like pick it apart because I didn't know I was like, why am I crying so much? I like, and I thought that but I didn't take myself out of it completely. And I think if I had done that,
I think it would have been a lot different. Okay, but to your guys credit, like, it's like you guys
are in this like experiment box and like you can't take yourself out of it. That's the
beauty and the hard part of it. Like, I get it. You're like, wait, if I had gotten to just like
go home for five minutes
and talk to my family and hung out,
I would've come back and been like,
listen ladies, let's all get to know each other,
it's not that deep, whoever picks who,
we're all still here, let's just keep hanging.
We've known each other for 24 hours.
But in the moment, it's so intense
because it's all so fucking with people's time
while you're there and can someone almost get sent home.
It's so many dynamics that it is heightened.
You made a pretty fucked comment in that conversation about how there was no sexual connection.
I did not say that.
I did not say there's no sexual connection.
You weren't feeling the sexual connection between you and Leah.
Did I say those words?
Yes. Was that exactly what I said?. You said I mean we can look it up
You said basically like you were not feeling the sexual relationship
I yeah, it was a I felt like our we weren't like we didn't know what each other wanted
Like it was kind of like a weird thing cuz I do you guys like you had made out, right?
Yeah, we made out like a couple times and it was good. It wasn't bad
I would just like I don't know why that came up, but,
but yeah, I was just letting her know.
Like I'm in that there, like you said,
anything you don't say to somebody is wasting their time.
And like, like I felt like I needed to be as transparent
with everyone as I could.
And so what were you feeling?
Cause you clearly have a sexual connection with her, no?
Or no?
Yeah, but it wasn't like,
I feel like we didn't click sexually.
Does that make sense?
Found her really attractive, everything,
but when we kissed and stuff, it was like,
it felt like she was holding back.
She told me, and she said she was,
like she said, oh, that's because,
she said it was because the first night
when we had our first kiss, I said, please be gentle.
I was joking before we kissed.
And she said that's why she said that from then on, she would hesitate
kissing me and stuff. And she said that was why.
And do you think if that...
I was like, well, that makes sense, because that's what it felt like.
It felt like I couldn't tell if she wanted to kiss me whenever we make out.
And I'm like, does she want to stop?
I couldn't tell. It was really weird.
And I'm glad I told her because,
well, I don't think we made out again after that.
But I told her that and she was like,
oh yeah, I was holding back.
Because you said that the first time we kissed,
I was like, that was a joke.
Because I think obviously like that suck to see
because I, on her side, just like as a girl,
you're like, fuck, like there's no rebuttal.
It's like saying you have no chemistry with someone.
Yeah, but am I wrong for telling her that?
No, no.
And I think she, understandably,
was so upset by that comment,
and then she slept outside that night,
because I think she went to Serena after that,
and was like, I literally feel like, what the fuck?
I feel gross.
I'm like, oh my God, am I not sexually attractive to him?
But that's not what you were saying.
Not at all, and I told her attractive to him? But that's not what you were saying. Not at all.
And I told her that.
Okay.
You gotta understand, these conversations, they're like max five minutes long.
Sure, and yeah.
That was at least an hour.
Yeah.
At the very least, there was probably more of us talking up there.
In that moment when I was watching, and you can clarify, it felt also like you were saying
that and I could be wrong, but I feel like the viewers kind of felt this way
and you, when you shared that with her,
you use that an example of like,
why you basically were gonna maybe like try
and make things work with Andrea.
I mean, maybe, but no.
Like it was more of just telling her everything about us,
like on the table.
So if that did happen, like she understands where I'm at.
Like I didn't want to blindside anyone.
And I feel like I ended up blindsiding her
because I didn't get the chance to talk to her
before the recoupling thing.
That was like, that's one of my biggest regrets
is I should have insisted because I wasn't able
to get to her and I should have been like, no,
we're not, I need to talk to Leah before this.
Like, cause I knew it was gonna happen, but yeah.
Can you explain that you weren't able to get to her?
Like, did they physically put you in different rooms
and you can't see people?
Oh, are you not allowed to talk about that?
I can't talk about it, yeah.
Really?
I feel like everyone knows that.
Okay, so I'm gonna-
Yeah, I can't.
I'll just assume that you guys are like separated
for the first time. I wasn't able to talk to her,
that's all I can say.
I didn't get the chance.
I didn't get the chance to talk to her.
And can we just finish the conversation
on how everyone thought that you were potentially crying
to manipulate the situation.
I think a lot of people looked at the situation like,
wow, he's in a position of power,
he's getting to pick between these two women.
If anyone can- And he's crying,
yeah, it's ridiculous. And he's crying.
Fucking Leah should be crying if anyone's crying,
but she didn't, obviously.
And so people were struggling to know
if the tears were genuine or if they were like
a manipulation tactic to like make it look kind of like,
oh, this sucks for me too,
and like kind of get you out unscathed.
What do you say to that?
That's completely not true.
I mean, you can ask anyone that I would never,
never want to cry.
Like, no, definitely not.
That was completely genuine. Unfortunately.
I wish it didn't happen at all.
The pool. Was there nowhere else to go?
So this is one of those things I should.
So in my head, I wasn't planning on going to the pool, but I saw it.
I walked down the stairs, saw it. I was like, Oh, I had noticed earlier that day.
You could go up under the deck and there's no cameras, there's no mics.
I just wanted to be alone.
I was like, fuck this shit.
And I was like, all right, I'm going in there.
And so I took my clothes off.
I jumped in, I went in there and then I got in there and I was like, they probably think
I'm killing myself or something.
I was going to say, I was like, this is a terrible idea.
This was an awful idea.
So then I got out and then I just walked out and that's what I should have done.
I should have walked out because I needed to be alone. That's what I needed, but I knew they were gonna stop me
I knew if I walked out they were gonna like stop me whatever I knew there
I get in the pool like what are they gonna do fish me out like but yeah, it was it was
Yeah
Hindsight not the best choice. What do you think your biggest flaw is when it comes to dating?
probably
My biggest flaw. It's hard to pick one. Oh, okay. Let's list a couple. We're here.
I think I definitely learned from this that I have an issue with letting people in
and letting my walls down. I think I also struggle with communication.
I struggle with, I think I procrastinate my feelings.
I think I'm feeling them, but I don't process them in my brain until I have to.
And that is probably one of the biggest things. That's what I think happened'm feeling them, but I don't process them in my brain until I have to. And that is probably one of the biggest things.
That's what I think happened with the Leah and Andrea situation, where I think if I had just like,
but then again, I was never alone and I have to be alone to do that kind of thing.
And I think if I was able to do that, it could have been so much better.
I could have communicated to Leah a lot better.
Because something about it is like you can recouple, but it doesn't mean it's over.
And I still had those feelings for Leah.
And I think if I could have talked to her about it I don't know
what happened but like it would have been different. Why do you think you have
such a hard time with letting people in? Probably just the way I grew up. Okay.
I was just like... Share? Kind of well like I'm a family I'm one of four and I was
just always more the quiet one, kept to myself didn't really I was like the
middle child there's four of us but
I was like you know what I mean like I just was like kind of independent and I
think a lot of times I just felt like people didn't care so like I just
didn't ever and I still feel like that I feel like people don't care because
they don't like realistically most people don't give a shit like they'll
ask you but they don't really care so I just don't waste my time and telling
people like usually I just kind of like keep on going
until I feel like it's something that matters, I guess.
You know, that's why I think it's only
in one-on-one conversation that I can like actually
let my walls down and talk.
Because I think I gave every girl a chance
and I tried my best.
But I like looking back, I was like, damn,
especially like after the Andrea and Leah thing,
it just like tightened me up even more.
Like, because I hurt them and I knew that and it was my fault. I was like damn especially like after the Andre and Leah thing it just like tightened me up even more like
Because I hurt them and I knew that and it was my fault like yeah, I fucked up
And I just it was hard for me to like keep going after that I think people felt that you kind of like shut off after all that happened
Do you are your parents still together? They got divorced like two years ago. I'm sorry
Okay, what is your relationship like with your mom?
It's really good.
And your dad?
It's good.
Okay.
It's good, yeah.
My mom is a lot like me.
She's like very witty and funny.
She's hilarious, you would love her.
And then my dad is really artistic
and he's very handsome and that's like his thing.
He's really handsome.
Yeah.
And that's his thing.
You should, yeah, yeah, he is.
But well, no, and being an artist, he's an artist.
Okay, so you kind of got like a little bit of-
I did, I got both.
I got both those things, so that's good.
I got some of their best traits
and I got both of their worst traits.
What are their worst traits?
My mom is really emotional
and sometimes says like,
says and like thinks things emotionally sometimes,
which I do, which I've really worked on, like I think.
And then, yeah, I got some stuff from my dad too.
You're like, I don't wanna say what I got
from my dad moving on, that's fine.
I respect it.
Is there a theme, I know you kind of talk
about communication, but I wanna know a little bit more,
like is there a theme of why every relationship you've had has ended?
Yeah, I think there is.
This is really going to be sad, but it's just I don't think that I've been able to let someone
all the way in.
And what do you feel when someone starts to get close to you?
I feel like I reach a point and they keep going and I can't.
Why do you think that is?
I don't know.
Try. I didn't know this was going to be that deep. Also, you think that is? I don't know. Try. I didn't know
this was gonna be that deep. Also I need to turn my phone off. Turn it off. You're not allowed to
look at your phone when I ask you a deep question. Go ahead. Why do I think that is? I think I have
gosh this is really I thought this would be more fun. I don't know. It'll be good. It'll get fun. I think I, I think I need therapy.
To be honest, more therapy. Yeah. I think that's a good answer. Yeah, I think, I don't love me
and I really don't give a shit what people say about me because mostly time I'm saying it to
myself already. Like when I got out I saw all the horrible shit what people say about me because mostly time I'm saying it to myself already like when I got out
I saw all the horrible things people were saying about me and I was like, huh beat you the punch
like I've been saying that shit this whole time so I
Think I need to get over that before I can like really and I'm a lot better
I'm way better than I used to be I used to be like
Really bad like I'm my number one
I'm just hard on myself and I think that comes with being an artist.
I consider myself an artist.
I love creating things.
I love making things.
And I think that's just part of the mentality is like,
you can always be better.
Like it's never perfect.
Which is not a good mentality to have.
Like you can't be perfect.
It's literally impossible.
But I know I'm very far from perfect
and I'm starting to accept it more and more.
And I think like, I don't know.
I've like hurt people in the past like I like I said with my last
girlfriend like I fucking hurt her and it still tears me up like and it's
completely my fault there's no one to blame but me there's no good excuse for
it and it's just like fuck I just carry it around. I appreciate though,
and I think a lot of people watching this
will appreciate Rob, that you're like,
you do take accountability in what you're saying.
You're like, I know I fucked up.
I know I'm the one that fucked up.
I want to like figure out my shit.
There's so many people, one of your friends
that we saw this season that doesn't take accountability
and is acting like, no, I didn't do that.
What are you talking about?
I didn't do that.
You're like, no, I did that and I fucked up
and I don't know why the fuck I did that.
I think that's progress.
I think that's the first step to actually understanding
why the fuck you make certain decisions, right?
I try to be a good person, I really do.
Do I think I'm a good person? Yeah, actually, yeah, I I try to be a good person. I really do. Do I think I'm a good person?
Yeah.
Actually, yeah.
I do think I'm a good person.
I think of others often, and I try.
But I'm not perfect, and I mess up, and I want to be better,
I guess is what I'm saying.
I've never been at a point in my life where I'm like,
this is as good as it gets.
I'm like this.
But no, I always want to keep getting better,
and I think I have.
Do you think that this process made you realize?
More that you want to keep working on yourself. I'm percent. I mean like I was working on myself before it but like
That that's one of the valuable things I got from this is I was able to look at myself in
Conflict like how do I react in like when I'm angry? How do I act when I'm really hurt?
like I can literally go and watch it.
And that's like super valuable.
It really is because you can see,
and that's something that Leah got from this too.
Because Leah was, I mean she said some awful things
about me and claimed to never have said them
when she talked to me.
Like what?
That she said that I was a little bitch
and that I gave her the ick because of it and like
just like some crazy shit that I've seen. I mean I've seen some clips
but she never admitted to that once until movie night. Like she said she didn't say that
and then at one point she's like I may have said some things and I was like but I fully fully
believe Leah didn't she didn't like I think she says things when she gets emotional and then it just never happened. Like she doesn't actually feel it she didn't like, I think she says things that when she gets emotional, and then this never
happened, like, she doesn't actually feel it. She didn't say
I think that kind of happens with her. At least, I don't know
in that in that regard.
I feel like your thing this season was like you run when
things get a little hard, like you physically run under the
pool, you would like walk away from things you would go to
soul ties by yourself and stand there.
And I think you, do you do that in your real life?
Do you kind of remove yourself when things are getting
a little complicated or heightened?
I would say, yeah, at times, but also I would say
I have to do that sometimes.
Because like I said, I'm serious.
If you were just sitting in a room with me,
I wouldn't be able to think about my feelings. It's really weird. I really need to be alone to process, I'm serious. If you were just sitting in a room with me, I wouldn't be able to think about my feelings.
It's really weird.
I really need to be alone to process how I'm feeling.
And journaling helps a lot.
And I couldn't do either of those things.
Oh, you couldn't journal?
You can't, no, because Beach Hut is your journal.
Sorry, I'm not supposed to talk about that.
Oh, okay.
It's like the cutaway.
Right, oh, it's like your confessional is your journal.
Yeah, confessional is your journal, yeah.
Right, but staring into a camera is a little.
Also, the amount of things I've written in my journal
that I don't mean, you just say it to get it out,
and then I'm like, okay, I don't feel that way, move on.
You know what I'm saying?
That's just how I process.
So you then couple up with Andrea,
and you were together for four days.
And obviously, you went from being with Leah
to then being with Andrea.
What did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced? You went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea, like, what did you feel like
was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?
So after like everything that happened with Leah, I was like, okay, I made the right decision.
Like I just that's just the way I saw it.
I was like, I was like, this was nuts.
Like this, we've not known each other that long.
We had this whole thing, which it was mostly my fault.
Yeah.
Like I feel like it was mostly my fault that it happened that way.
But I mean, I mean, she'll admit some fault in it as well, but I feel
like it was mostly my fault, but it just didn't work.
And I thought it was like, okay, our communication styles, whatever.
I was like, okay, well, I made the right choice.
Like things with Andre are really great.
And it was, it was an amazing four days we had.
Like I was like smitten.
Like I really was, I was having a great time.
And you can tell.
You seemed it.
You can tell.
I just thought she was like so much, like just good.
Like, I don't know.
I like talking to her.
I love the way she talked about her family,
and it just felt really romantic.
Like, it just felt romantic.
That's, like, the best way I could put it.
I felt romantic when I was with her.
In the moment of those four days,
and I want to clarify,
because I feel like a lot of people are like,
you fucking knew each other for four days.
Like, four days seems like what in Love Island time?
That's like a month. Like, a week is like a month. A month. A week is like a month.
It seriously is.
It feels like you've known them forever.
Because literally, usually you date a girl,
you may go on a date.
You'll see her maybe next week or in a couple days.
And you'll text the whole time, whatever.
But there, you are with them at any opportunity you can.
And you have to talk about how you feel about everything.
You're immediately talking about how many kids you want.
And then, so if you like them, that progresses really, really fast.
Yeah, that's a good point too.
Women, think about this if you're listening, like you get upset after a fourth date if a guy
ghosts you, because you're like, well, we went on our fourth date. Fourth date, fourth day for you,
for almost 24 hours of basically hanging out,
sleeping together, talking.
Oh, it's like our 20th day, yeah.
Yeah, okay, so it got super emotional,
and then obviously when elimination came around,
the girls decided to send Andrea home.
And the world was fucking shocked.
Like people online were like,
this is the craziest episode that we've ever seen
in Love Island history, like what the fuck? And obviously, you were shocked.
What do you remember feeling when you heard her name called?
At first, I was just mad.
I was like, this makes no sense.
This makes no sense.
We had the strongest connection
of most of the people in the villa at the time,
like, let alone who was up for elimination.
And I was like, I was just baffled. I was just baff elimination and I was like I would just
baffled I was baffled I was like how does this make sense and then I was like
fuck it I'm leaving yeah so you immediately stood up and you were like
now you're sending three home like well it wasn't immediate that that probably
that's longer like we're sitting there we're. We're sitting there, we're talking,
there's a back and forth between the girls and the guys, blah blah blah. And then finally, I'm sitting there and I'm like, all right, yeah, nah. And then Aaron's like, no no no no,
rah rah rah, no no. And I got up and I was like, yeah, I'm leaving. So you say you're leaving.
Yeah. And then you don't leave. Yeah. I understand your reason. Like,
explain your reasoning to maybe people that forget why you didn't leave. Alright, so once again, that was a three-hour process of me trying like wanting to leave.
Okay.
And like having conversations with people and they're like, no, you shouldn't like-
Okay.
So it wasn't 30 minutes?
No.
Okay.
No, she did have 30 minutes back and I had that conversation with her, but after she left,
I was like, no, fucking no.
Yes.
Like, so I had a conversation and they're like, no, you should say blah, blah, blah, like it's so dumb. You've only known for four days. Oh, well, I'm like, okay fair enough
but then right after that I was like now I'm leaving like I'm like no like I'm actually leaving and I
Just had a lot of conversations well by and they convinced me to stay the night and the next day I calmed down
and I was like, okay, yeah, like I
Came here to find the best connection it was going amazing with her and I think like you know like the
honeymoon stage of a relationship we were at that we were at that point where
I was like this girl could do no wrong I was just like so keen like I was just
happy gone and I was like fuck like I don't know like it was just a bad time
like it literally the next day I could have been, like, I don't know. Like, it was just a bad time. Like, literally the next day, I could have been like,
oh, like, I don't know about this.
You don't know, but I was like,
who knows who else might come in here?
Like, you know, because it was still early days.
Yeah.
And so I was like, I mean, yeah, it doesn't,
I don't want to get out of here, get with her.
It doesn't work out, which statistically,
very high probability that we would not work out.
And then I'm like, damn, what could have been?
Do you regret the way that you responded though
in that moment?
Because you obviously got Andrea's hopes up.
Yeah, 100%, I regret it.
I wish I wouldn't have said it,
but in that moment, that's what I was doing.
Like I was set on leaving.
Like for a while after that, I was set on leaving,
even the next day.
But yeah, of course, you don't see any of that.
Had she not got sent home, do you think that you guys would have gone to the finale together?
I don't know. I don't I don't know.
I don't know if it would have worked out. I really don't.
It was really, really great. But like it was still early days.
Yeah, like we had a lot to learn about each other and you know.
Have you seen the TikTok that's trending that like you sat up there and you thought like you said,
oh you're sending three home now you're fucking in your overalls.
What now bitch? Yeah I've seen that.
Okay it's kind of iconic.
No yeah no Leah's hilarious like I love like Leah's great.
She's amazing.
Yeah.
So after the elimination of Andrea, she's gone,
and Leah basically told you that she took a backseat
in that decision of the process of sending Andrea home.
And this caused so much fucking drama between you and Leah.
You called her a liar.
It caused drama between Leah and all the women.
Now, looking back, what do you actually believe happened?
I think it was a lot of miscommunication from the girls to me, from me to Leah. And so,
first of all, I did not think Leah was capable of lying to me. I really thought that we had,
I thought we had something special and I did not think she was lying to me at all.
Until that conversation that she had with me, it was up on the upstairs thing, she was she told me like and once again I haven't watched it I don't remember exactly what
she said but she basically said like she didn't talk shit about me and
Andrea, she didn't talk shit about me or like shit like that and I knew that
wasn't true and I was like damn and then she said I took a backseat in the
decision and I was like interesting and. And then she said, I took a backseat in the decision.
And I was like, interesting.
And the point of that conversation
was not about that at all.
For me, it was more about, is this girl lying to me?
Because I still had feelings for her.
And I was thinking at this point, I was like,
okay, maybe I should give this another shot.
That's what the point, you remember when I pulled Liv in?
Yeah, I was not trying to like.
You can't even remember Kayla's name.
Kayla, sorry, I can't remember Kayla's name. Kayla, I love you so much. You're like a sister to me. No, no, you're fine, you're fine. I'm interested to talk like you can't remember Kayla's name Taylor. Sorry. I can't remember Kayla's name Kayla
I love you so much. Thank you sister. No, you're fine. You're fine. I'm interested to talk to you about all that. Yeah, okay, okay
Yeah, when I pulled them
The only reason I did that is because I didn't want to like I knew Leah was gonna get upset and I just didn't
Want to have the conversation at all if they were like, oh, no, she did
I would've been like, okay cool
And I would have dropped it the only reason I pulled them is because I just wanted all the facts
I wanted to know the truth before I went into it.
Also, if she had been lying to me,
I knew she was gonna lie.
And she did kind of deny everything
when we started the conversation.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And then I just kind of felt lied to.
And then they just kept yelling at each other.
And I was like, I don't even wanna be a part of this anymore.
That's not what I wanted at all.
Also, people were saying that we teamed up on her.
I talked to Leah by myself and she called Liv over.
She kinda, I think she kinda thought
Liv was gonna be on her side and then she just wasn't at all.
And then it was like, bad.
It was, I hated that moment because it was just like,
Leah was just in between two people that disagreed with her
and it was just, it just wasn't fair for her at all.
No, I agree.
I think like understandably, Leah,
when she called Liv over,
thought that Liv was gonna be like,
oh yeah, we got your back girl.
And then Liv was like, no, I'm gonna be real.
This is how I feel about it.
This is what happened.
And then in that moment, it should have been like,
okay, I didn't know that.
So Liv, you and Leah need to have a conversation alone.
Let's you and I finish our conversation.
Cause I agree, it became ganging up,
but then it was also tough cause it's like,
yeah, but you asked Liv and Liv's telling you. Yeah exactly she
asked for that yeah and and she was trying to team up on me. Yeah. But I wanted the
conversation to be really calm like I was trying to be really really calm yeah
and then she just kept like saying these things and I was like this is not true
and that's why I like lost my shit and I was like you just wake the fuck up like
we like just be real with me.
It's interesting because this isn't even a question for you.
It's a question for production.
And I think everyone on the internet is feeling it.
It's like, why will they not just air the clip?
Just aired the clip of the girls in the huddle.
And- They never did.
They never did.
Oh, I thought I would get to see it.
No, we've never seen it.
No one ever aired it.
And I think a lot of people have a conspiracy
that like, Leah was getting a bad at it.
So maybe it completely clears her name
and they don't wanna put it up.
Or like, I don't know what the fuck happened in that huddle,
but like they never aired it.
Just air it.
Based on what the girls have told me,
I don't think it does that.
I don't think it clears her name.
Really?
No, but that's once again, he said, she said,
which I don't wanna talk about that
in a negative way towards anybody. Because I don't like talking bad about people at all. No, but that's once again, he said she said which I don't want to talk about that in a negative way towards anybody
Yeah, I don't like talking bad about people at all
No, but I get it like in the middle of this drama and everyone it's like this one thing
everyone's like what the fuck was the decision and
Understandably everyone's gonna like say their piece, but I just wish shows the fucking footage just shows the footage
Yeah, just play and I thought we were gonna get that on movie night and we didn't. We're like just play clear, clear everyone's names. Get the truth.
I don't know production. I would have loved to see that as well. Maybe I should hold the glass.
I heard like I heard what was said. You heard what was said. Yeah. Did they ever hear of that?
No. I was told like specifically what she was saying. Why not? After that. Share it with the
class. I don't want to because I don't know if it's true.
Who told you?
I don't want to say that either.
But you got what's...
It's just drama.
You got specifics.
To me, that's drama.
I like to know facts, and if I know facts,
I will call you out on it, and I will be like,
hey, let's talk about this.
But I'm not gonna start something over
something I don't know is true or not.
Understandable.
That's ridiculous to me.
No, that whole thing just became so much bigger
than it was meant to be.
And it became about the decision that I wasn't,
I was just trying to like talk about like
how honest she had been with me.
And I feel like the way she reacted made me feel like
she wasn't being honest at all.
Well, also at the end of the day,
no matter what Leah said in that circle,
there were three, what three or four girls
making that decision.
No, I never said it wasn't all on her.
And I didn't care about that.
Like she made the decision, the what she just,
like, you know, I just wanted to know
if she was being honest about taking a backseat.
I think that's what it became about.
It was never about that.
Even if she was full, like,
we need to get Andrei out of here.
I wouldn't have been mad at her.
Like I would have just liked to know if that was the truth.
I just wanted honesty.
That's all I wanted.
I wanted to know that I could trust her and you don't feel like you got that
No, I didn't I felt like I couldn't trust her that time
I was like and like now like looking back
I don't know because I think it was really getting twisted around I agree it by everyone. Yeah, but myself included
I think that I didn't remember things right from our first conversation
But like I think everybody involved in that had a different narrative.
And then there was the truth and none of us were on it.
I don't think.
I know, play the fucking clip, Peacock.
They should air that as like a bonus episode
and it's like a two second clip.
Or it'd be like 2.99.
They'd make so much money.
Like an OnlyFans link for that clip.
I would fucking pay for it.
In the real world,
do you have an easy time trusting partners?
When I first start something with someone, I fully trust them.
That's like, I'm not going to date you if I don't.
And that's why I was like, okay, well, I guess I'm not going to date Leah.
Have you ever gone through someone's phone?
Yeah, once.
Well, like my first, so my first college girlfriend, that was the most toxic relationship I've ever been in.
On both sides.
I was toxic, she was toxic.
We could not stay away from each other to save our lives.
Broke up a million times,
got back together a million times.
Craziest things.
Also, we're drinking all the time because it's college.
So like, that's the most toxic relationship I've ever been in.
It was crazy.
But yeah, I went through her phone for sure.
She went through my phone too.
I would wake up and she'd have my phone.
She'd be like, you motherfucker.
Like, I have the craziest stories between us, but.
Did you find anything incriminating?
Yes.
So have you been cheated on?
I mean, we weren't together at the time.
Right, it was the toxic college thing
where it's like, ugh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you wanna share a funny, crazy story with us?
No, no, no, no.
Why?
Because she's a good girl and I wish her the best
and we both grew up.
People can change and I don't want people to be like,
you did this, you know what I'm saying?
Do you think people will know who she is?
Yeah, definitely.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Everyone from my own town will know who she is.
Oh, and then it will come out, yeah, yeah.
But I wish her the best. I think she's about to get married like oh my god
Yeah, definitely don't share the story Congrats Congrats. So proud of you out of that toxic shit with Rob. Yeah onto
Yeah, no, I think a lot of my ex-girlfriends are about to get married. I like prepare them. I'm like
I'm like the stepping stone. How does it make you feel sad?
I'm like the stepping stone. How does that make you feel?
Sad.
No, you're wrong.
Sad.
You're gonna find your person.
Maybe.
Are you the jealous type?
Yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
Okay.
100%.
Like how jealous?
Jealous.
I'm like more of like a protective jealous,
but like when I'm dating a girl,
like I'll kind of make it now and like,
I'll put myself in between her and whatever the situation is.
Okay.
Yeah, that's kind of like that.
Okay.
That kind of joke.
Can we talk about Aaron?
Of course.
Your boy Aaron.
Throughout this season, online, sometimes people would joke that you guys were the strongest couple in the fucking whole...
I've seen a lot of that.
A lot of that.
How would you describe your friendship?
I think like at first I was like I'm not so sure about this guy. He's like kind of the opposite of
me in the way that he's like really loud and like loves to like he's just silly and like goofy and
and I'm like that too but like only when I'm like really comfortable with people.
But then like I got to know him and he felt like family. He's really
sweet and he really cares about everyone. He really did. He would get sad when anyone
was sad.
Specifically you though.
Yeah. We became really, really good friends. He seriously felt like my brother.
Okay, during Casa Amor. Now we like, we really need you
to give us some information, okay?
To clarify this, we don't have to speak about this again.
We watched Aaron basically cheat on Kailor with Daniela.
Yeah, okay, well they were open.
Okay, they were open,
but it was like pretty fucking slimy.
I'm not gonna lie, when I saw the clips, I was shocked.
Okay.
I was shocked, and I was shocked the day
that I saw him kissing her on the bean bag. I was shocked. I was shocked. And I was shocked the day that I saw him kissing her on the bean bag.
I was shocked.
Okay.
When it was time to return to the villa,
you brought his girl, Daniela, back in with you
and he returned as single so that he could present
as loyal basically to Kayla.
And he's like, I want you.
What the fuck happened? Do not lie to me. Tell me what happened.
Well I wasn't really getting on with any like I got to know the girls. They were great girls.
Sydney so funny. Like I thought they were really great girls but I didn't see like long-term
relationship type things with most of them. And Daniel I've been talking with Aaron most of the time
most of them. And Daniel, I've been talking with Aaron most of the time. And we have like similar type as far as personality.
And the first conversation I had with her I really liked and he was telling me the whole time that I should talk to her.
And I was like, I was like, what? And he was like, yeah, like I think you guys really get along.
But because he I think he knew he wasn't going to take her back.
At that point, he was like, you should you should at least talk to her and see.
Even though he loved her?
He loved her?
He told her that he loved her twice.
Daniella?
Yes, you have seen this.
He said he loved her?
Uh-huh.
I haven't seen that.
Okay.
Did they show that at movie night?
No, that's what's been so crazy online
is everyone's like,
why the fuck was that not played at movie night?
I don't know if Kayla even knows that yet.
She probably does now that she's out.
Definitely does.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Oh, it was like the biggest thing on the internet.
Really?
I haven't even seen it on like anything.
I haven't seen it clipped or anything.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
What was the question?
Anyways, so how the fuck did you come back to the villa with Daniela?
Well, yeah, so I literally didn't get a chance to talk to her that much at all.
And then I did, I talked to her and I was like,
well, I liked her values, I like where her values were
and I liked, once again, she's very family oriented like me
and she loves animals, she wanted to be a vet.
I was like, okay, I could see something here.
So I was like, what am I gonna do?
Go back single to no one to Liv?
You did say you liked her right before you left.
I was actually really close to doing that exact thing.
I was really close to going back single
and just being like, Liv, what's up?
You wanna hang out?
Yeah, I was really close to doing that.
I seriously thought about it.
But I was like, Liv and I both knew, like we get on
and like we get each other's humor
and like I find her really attractive,
but like it was like, it's more of a friendship for sure.
So did Aaron ask you to bring Daniella back?
No, hell no, hell no.
He didn't want me to bring her.
Oh, actually he did.
Thank you.
He did.
But then after that, like immediately after that,
he was like terrible idea, don't bring it back.
Right, okay so he did.
So he did articulate that to you.
That's true, I forgot about that.
Thank you, can you please tell us about the conversation?
Oh fuck, I don't really remember that well.
But he was like, he pulled me for a chat
and he was like, oh yeah, she took it really, really well. The way that when he said that he was like, he pulled me for a chat and he was like, oh yeah, she took it really, really well.
The way that when he said that he was done, like he wasn't gonna take her back, whatever,
she took it, he said like, she took it with like such grace and like she was so kind and she just
said really nice things about him and stuff and he was like, oh dang, like that was really cool.
He's like, you're gonna like her a lot, you should hang out with her. But like, yeah, and he was like, you're going to like her a lot. You should hang out with her. But like, yeah.
And he was like, you should take her back.
Yeah.
Yeah, I forgot about it.
I forgot.
I totally, but it's because the reason I forgot about it is because maybe 10 minutes after
that conversation, he was like, please forget everything I just said.
That's an awful idea.
I'm going back to Kayla and I really like Kayla.
Like, let's just don't bring her back at all unless you really want to.
And I was like, okay.
And just for like anyone who for some reason
is watching this and never watched Love Island,
basically the point is Aaron was coupled up with Kaylor,
goes into a new house with all new women,
is making out with this new girl,
and then basically asks Rob to bring that girl
back into the villa on his accord so that like.
Well, he did not say, he said only
if you see something with hers like if
you want to bring her back do it but like it was like yeah it was like i guess implied like that
he thinks that she's cool but i don't but i'm telling you literally 10 minutes after that he's
like freaking out everything i said so wrong i don't know what the hell i was thinking yeah i'm a
dumb ass do not do that unless you really want to.
And then I was like, I got to know her and I was like,
there's enough there that I want to see where it goes.
We didn't have a lot of time.
Did you feel like a dick doing that to Kayla?
Yeah, I did.
Cause I care about Kayla.
She's like a sister to me,
but I also thought about it like, okay, well, at least like,
she's gonna know like, and I was wrong,
but at least she's gonna know that he's being honest because she'll tell him everything.
And then she didn't. I've seen that as well. It's yeah, I know. I know. But that was like my silver lining.
I was like, I was like, okay, yeah, like this is gonna be weird and it sucks because like Aaron's
my best friend and Kayla is his girl and like I want to be able to hang out with them all together
But honestly like Kayla really took it with grace like and and she got along with Daniel enough that like we could all kind of
Hang out but like I don't know things. Yeah. Yeah, Aaron
Is kind of in the doghouse on the internet. I know he's kind of the villain of the season. I know well
Yeah, yeah, and I and I think he's gonna be okay because I think
What I've just told him over and over again is
You fucked up. You got to take accountability and as long as you keep doing that, I think it's gonna be okay because I promise you this
He loves Kayla. He really does. Wow. He cares about her so much. And it was killing him even in Casa.
Like he was like, I remember one day specifically,
it was after he kissed her,
he sat in the room for like hours and just stared
and was like, what the fuck have I done?
Blah, blah, blah.
And he really cares about her a lot.
He really does.
Yeah, but he gets really emotional for you. There are so many clips of like his emotions
towards you versus everyone else, even Kayla. Like he was sobbing when he thought you were
going to leave. It's kind of cute. So for the rest of your time in the villa, you obviously kind of
like didn't find that connection that was as strong as Andrea or Leah. And I don't know if
you've seen all the fan edits, you have seen all the fan edits
of you and Leah.
I've seen a ton, I mean how could I not?
They're fucking everywhere.
The entire world wanted you guys to end up together.
Would you ever try to make it work in the real world?
I think after everything, I think we will be amazing friends.
And I think I'd rather just focus on that for now. Like, love being around her.
She's an amazing person.
She's so fucking funny.
Like, I'm like laughing the whole time I'm with her usually.
But like, I mean, I think,
I also think Miguel is a really great guy.
I love Miguel.
And we're actually really similar.
Which I didn't see coming at all.
Like, some of the way we think.
But yeah, I think I don't know what's happened, obviously.
But I mean, no, I mean, I'm going to respect them and and her.
And like, I just I just don't think that that's like necessary at all.
I think that we're great friends and that's like a great spot to be.
And I'm happy with it.
Like, I'm content in that.
Like, I would be content being friends with her.
OK. I don't content being friends with her.
Okay.
I don't think people like that answer.
I mean, what do you want me to say?
No, that's the honest truth.
That's the honest truth.
Yeah, like I'm okay with being friends
and I wanna be friends.
Why do you think America is rooting for you and Leah
even though she has something good with Miguel?
Probably all the edits.
Probably all the fucking edits you guys have made
of us looking at each other.
And like, I mean, and we care.
It's like, it's not built on nothing.
Like we care for each other for sure.
I like, I feel that she cares for me and I care for her.
But yeah, after everything, like I just,
I think it would be really, really hard.
I mean, it's kind of like the Erin Kaylor situation.
Like that's going to be such an uphill battle for them
to get through.
And I think like the best thing for us is just to like
move on and be friends.
Like seriously, I think that's just the best thing.
Was it as epic in the villa, the like feelings
that you guys had as compared to like these fan edits?
Because you guys had this like,
it feels like this like unsaid like insane attraction
and it was this whole whirlwind and like,
did it feel that way?
Most of the time no.
What?
I love that answer.
Most of the time no.
There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn, like I cannot lie. There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn.
Like, I cannot lie.
There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn.
But most of the time, like, a lot, like I've seen a lot of them.
I'm like, I don't even think she was looking at me in that.
Like, some of them I'm like, okay.
But yeah, like other times I'm like, yeah, I mean, that was a nice moment for us.
Right. But the edits have made it really like.
It's definitely like hype, hyped up a lot.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And I think she would say the same thing.
How do you think Leah feels about you now?
Obviously we saw your like grand final moment with her
where you run up.
So funny, didn't feel like that at all.
Like, I mean, in the moment it did,
but like I literally just wanted to say bye
and let her know that I cared about her
and I thought she was great.
And I'm glad that we got to get back to that point.
That's all I wanted to say.
But then it was like, I don't know,
it was so much more emotional
than I thought it was gonna be.
In my head, I was like, this is not a big deal at all.
I'm just gonna let her know these things
and then I let her know, and then I was like,
oh, that was kinda crazy.
Like a little bit, it wasn't that crazy,
but it seems a lot crazier on TV, I think.
So producers did not make you do that?
No, they didn't make me do that.
Because everyone was like, oh my God,
that felt too perfect that it was produced, no.
No, other than the lines they wrote me,
no, I'm playing, no, I'm playing, no, that was-
Well, and it's like music goes into it,
which like there was a music playing-
Yeah, it's not me which heightens it up, yeah, yeah.
While you're fucking saying that.
Exactly, exactly.
But you both did, you say love you, which I feel like a not music playing while you're fucking saying that. But you both did you say like love you,
which I feel like a not an I love you,
but a love you is pretty friend zoning.
Because it's like once you say love you to someone,
it's like, oh wow,
because if you were really gonna be in a romantic situation,
you'd probably like save those words.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you say that, it's like, I love you as a friend.
Yeah, for sure.
Which you just said you guys are friends.
Okay, I'm curious.
Andrea.
She said after she left that she would love
to rekindle things with you.
This probably was a while ago.
I know she's been posting a lot.
Would you want to give your guys' relationship
a shot in the real world or no?
I don't, yeah, I don't.
I mean, I've been talking to her a little bit, but it's not like...
I think, I think once again, like it's probably better if we just kind of like
keep our distance for now. Like kind of like it's a lot has happened and
she's been like posting a lot.
A lot.
Yeah, which is like I'd be lying if I was like, I was kind of like, oh, that's a lot
of things it posts about.
Which sounds really bad.
But like I do think she's a great girl.
And I think she got it.
Like, I think the reason she did that is like, she was she went in there and did what she
was supposed to do.
She did nothing wrong.
Literally did nothing wrong.
And she was always kind.
Like she when she left, I
don't know if it's one, I haven't seen it, but I don't know. When she left, she was
in a position where she could have said a lot of mean things and been like,
y'all are some bitches for doing this blah blah blah. Didn't not say a word. All
she said was like how much she cared about me and then left. Like, I thought
that was like so good and like I thought she handled herself so well the whole
time, which is why I was kind of surprised like she was like posting a lot of stuff
But like I guess she was she got like the most hate from anyone from the show
So did you reach out or did she reach out when you got your phone? I texted her I
Texted her I just said hey, how are you like and then I called her
Well, she yeah, we called we facetimed for a little bit
Didn't talk about like anything like crazy just just wanted to see how she was doing.
Because at this point,
I hadn't looked at really anything online.
And I was just like, how are you doing?
Everything, I was thinking about you a lot.
Like, blah, blah, told her my,
because I knew once she left,
she didn't know what happened.
And I think it was made to look like she left.
I was like, I'm leaving.
I did it, and then I didn't give a fuck.
That was not the case.
I was like, you can leaving I did it and then I didn't give a fuck. That was not the case I was like you can ask as any person in there. I was like I
Was so fucked like for that week after that like it was tough
But like I did I did get better and I got over it like
Towards the end so and I told I let her know like all that and I was just like because I felt guilty
I felt really guilty about it and and at times I was like, I should have just left.
Like, I'm such a bitch. Like, I don't know.
I mean, like I said, I tear myself up.
Yeah.
But rightfully so.
It was such a lose lose situation at that point,
like because I got emotional and said that.
But yeah, I just kind of let her know like how it went,
how I was feeling and everything.
And she told me like a little bit about what was going on with her.
And then that was it. And then we've texted a little bit.
But I did start to see like all the stuff about what was going on with her. And then that was it. And then we've texted a little bit, but I did
start to see like, all the stuff that she was doing. I was like,
that's something that I did not see coming from her. She just
seemed very no drama, like in the villa. So no drama. Like
she like she said that like, yeah. And I just was really kind
of setback by that. When I saw that, I was like, oh, interesting.
It is interesting.
Cause I feel like that must be weird for you of like,
everyone was sort of a certain way in the villa
and now that everyone's gonna be done and it's coming out
and everyone, you're gonna see everyone like,
I wonder if you're gonna feel the same type of way.
Have you thought about that?
Like once you see them in the real world,
like will you feel the same type of way about them
as you did with like these kinds of blinders on in the villa?
Yeah, it is like, when you're in the villa,
it's like tunnel vision and you get outside,
the tube's gone.
You know, it's like, you're just a girl now.
Right, like if you were at a bar,
would you still be like down to hang with her?
Or is she like not the vibe?
Cause it's, yeah.
But it's not like, the reason I'm having those thoughts,
it has nothing to do with me being out,
it has to do with me seeing what she's been doing
while I was out out like I was like
Interesting and but I will just like last thing on it
Like I will give her like credit like I do get why she would be doing that if like people were coming at her
But it was a lot. Okay, I'm gonna say the names of women that you connected with on like the
Season and I want you to describe your relationship with them in one word. You have no paper
on like the season and I want you to describe your relationship with them in one word.
You have no paper?
Sorry.
One word.
Yep.
Or if you want to describe your relationship,
no, one word.
That's great.
You got this?
This is a Rob thing, yeah.
That's why I said one word.
One word's good.
Okay, ready?
I guess, I mean, do I know that?
Okay.
Okay, Cassidy.
Cassidy?
Shy.
Sex.
No, I had sex with Cassie. Cassie. But Cassidy. Cassidy? Shy. Sex. No, I had sex with Cassie. Cassie. But Cassidy didn't have sex with her.
You couldn't hold out anymore. It had been a really really really long time and I was, it was, and like
after I was like, fuck Rob, you made it this whole time. You didn't have sex on TV. Your poor mother,
you're like, everyone's gonna be like, he never cared about any of those bitches,
he's just gonna fuck, you know?
And I was like, and then I was like, you know what?
I'm an adult, she's an adult, it felt right in the moment,
it happened, and I don't regret it, it just happened.
Did you do it in the bed when that
every woman's in the room?
Yes, Rop.
What? That's a yes.
I didn't say shit.
No, you did because this is a podcast. No, that's bad journalism. So real people, yeah, you just gave me a yes. I didn't say shit. No, you did because this is a podcast.
No, that's bad journalism.
So no people, yeah, you just gave me a yes in your eyes.
I didn't say shit.
Because if it wasn't, you'd say no.
I'm about to onion back up right now.
No, no, no, we're not onioning.
We are so fucking peeled down.
You're doing so great.
You really have, you're good at this.
I will give you credit.
Thank you. You're pretty good at this.
Thank you, you're a hard one to crack.
Like I will say, everyone at home that's like,
why don't you ask him this?
I'm trying, but we have gotten progress.
Okay, so you did it in the room.
Did you come like just on the sheets?
Did housekeeping have to clean that up the next morning?
Robert!
You used my full name.
That's some tea. You used my full name. That's some tea.
You've said nothing.
That is tea.
I've said no words for what you're saying.
Okay.
Did any of the people on the island know it happened
until she said?
No one knew.
That was the funniest part.
I don't know how many conversations they put in,
but Miguel, like I think it was literally the next day,
he was like, he was like he was like yeah bro
I just don't think that I could have sex in here like it's just not something I'm gonna do and I'm like dude me either bro and then Cassie was sitting right next to me I was like I was like
dude me either like especially like in the room with everyone could never do that he's like he's
like yeah bro like I mean I honestly if someone did I would rate it but like I it's just something
I wouldn't do and I was like I was like yeah bro Couldn't be me. And I looked at Cassie and she was like.
You're like, I feel light as a feather right now.
God, you had been waiting for that.
I wouldn't say I've been waiting for it.
Not sex, I mean to like, release.
Oh, I was like, built up.
Okay, Daniela, one word.
I'm trying to,
You can use a couple words.
Affectionate.
Live.
Strong.
Andrea.
Understanding.
Leah.
Lovely.
Oh.
Now you got us all making like clips of that.
Think about how many fan edits are gonna be in.
It's alliteration.
Lovely Leah, like come on.
Chill the fuck out.
Oh, I want you guys to be together.
Stop, you're just saying that because of the edits.
You watched the edits, they worked on you
and that's what you want.
They did work on me and I should know better.
I like know this shit can be real.
Come on, come on.
Okay, okay, if you had to go into the hideaway
with one person from the season.
What the fuck?
Right now, who would you go with?
That's nuts, That's nutty.
Ariana, anyways, next question.
She looked fucking amazing this season.
She looked so good.
She was always wearing see-through clothes.
I was like, what's up with her
not really wearing clothes all the time?
How many times did you guys think
she was a bombshell walking in?
Once, but also I thought she was an islander when we she was sitting there with them when we walked in and I went around and shook everyone's hand. I shook her hand. I was like,
nice to meet you. I'm Rob. And then I was like, oh, yeah, it was really embarrassing. There's a
clip of like Cordell at one point and everyone's like, it's Ariana. It's Ariana. Cordell comes out.
He's like, who the fuck is that? He's blind as a bat. You can't see shit.
It's so funny.
Serena and Cordell are so cute now.
I love them.
I love them both individually.
Yeah.
So it makes me easy to like them as a couple.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they had their struggles.
They're really dope.
But that's why I think they'll be good, I think,
because they had a hard time.
They got through a lot.
But like, yeah, they're both dope.
OK, who is the best kisser of the season?
Andrea.
You guys did seem like you had a good little.
Yeah, I would say Andrea.
Okay, I need you to clear something up.
During the body count game,
your answer was mysteriously just completely skipped over.
Really?
They didn't air it.
They didn't air it? So what is your body count, Rob? It was't air it. They didn't air it? So
what is your body count Rob? It was probably because it was boring. What was
it? 25. Is that a fake number? No. That feels fake. It's not fake. That feels fake. It's not
fake. It's not? No. It's a good estimation. Estimation? It's good. It's 25. We. 26 now.
Lucky number. Is it?
Oh, no it's not, 23 is a lucky number.
Fuck, passed it.
Is 23 your lucky number?
When I go to the casino, I put on red 23.
Okay, do you go to Vegas a lot?
I used to when I lived in LA.
You lived in LA?
I mean, you could hardly say that.
I was here for a year.
Why?
Work. Work. Yeah, what's here for a year. Why? Work
Yeah, Rob Thunder
Just kidding the joke. Wait, that was a joke. So Connor. Yeah. Yeah, so so the picture they took for me
Yeah, for like my my picture everyone thought I look like a porn star and so Connor came up with the name Rob Thunder
That was like me. You kind of are giving porn star right now. Like I'm waiting for you to like gyrate on the chair
You're not gonna do that though Rob Thunder, that was like me. That was my alter ego. You kind of are giving porn star right now. Like I'm waiting for you to like gyrate on the chair. Not gonna happen.
You're not gonna do that though.
Anyways, okay, what is the weirdest place
that you've ever had sex?
Airplane.
Airplane.
Maybe, like yeah, that's a good one, library.
Library.
Yep, shh, everyone's reading.
Well, clearly you can be quiet. No one knew in the villa that you had had sex.
Okay, are you actually taking a break from dating? I know you keep saying it like you're
thinking like you're you got to chill on that. Like you're gonna have everyone as friends.
I can't imagine like trying to get to know someone right now. I can't imagine like giving
someone my full attention and like actually being able to be present.
Like what are you thinking right now? You need't imagine giving someone my full attention and actually being able to be present.
What are you thinking right now?
You need to run home to Alabama
and get in your bed and like...
No, get in the woods and leave my phone at home.
I need to go in the creek and yeah, I'm not kidding.
I really need that.
It's like my therapy.
When you pick up your first snake,
what are you gonna do to it?
Kiss it?
No. No.
Have you ever kissed a snake?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
If it feels right.
Yeah.
If the mood is right. If the mood is right.
If the mood is right, we'll give him a little cutie.
Okay, so you're ready to get back to the woods.
Are you going to continue to be a snake wrangler?
Are you gonna like start popping up?
Are you gonna do the reality stuff?
Are you gonna go back on another reality show?
Like what do you think survived?
I have no idea.
They've asked me a lot, like what I want to do from this. Cause like show did the best it did it's number one. They beat every other show in America
Yeah, there's a number one streaming insane, which I did not see coming. So like yeah, like I
Think we should keep catching snakes. I
Mean like if I get a really good opportunity like like I said, I'll be like, fuck it
Whatever like this is kind of how I live my life like that's why I went on the violin that's
all I that situation had like I didn't apply for that you know like so yeah
something comes across like I was like survivor oh I'll do that like some shit
like that are you gonna see everyone for the reunion isn't there reunion there's
a reunion coming up are you excited are you nervous um I would say I'm nervous
why I don't know I don't know.
I don't know, just when I think about that,
the stress chemical in my brain comes out.
What stresses you out?
I'm procrastinating thinking about it.
No, we're almost, this is like basically the last question.
I promise, we have two more questions.
Okay.
So we'll take our time.
What are you stressed about going to this reunion?
Well, I feel like, I feel like,
I don't know, I'm just interested to see
who's still together and how everything is going
for everyone and just everyone together again.
I think a lot of people went to the internet
and maybe some things have been said
that are not great about other people.
And that's gonna be a thing for sure. I mean...
But you have been kind of not causing drama right? I'm just being honest like anything I've said
I'll be like yeah I said that I meant that. So you have nothing to be worried about now? No,
no. Just the situation in general. Gives you anxiety. Yeah that's just gonna be
like not just me no not with me I'm thinking about other people like I think is gonna, yeah, that's just gonna be, like not just me, no, not with me, I'm thinking about other people.
I'm like, how the fuck is that gonna go?
So yeah.
Okay, will you tell me off camera
who you're the most nervous about?
I'll tell you off camera, yeah.
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, but you're gonna go and you're gonna be like
drama-free, because you kind of,
what if Miguel and Leah aren't together?
I'd be like, damn, sorry guys. I'd be like, damn, sorry guys.
I'd be like, damn, that sucks.
I was really rooting for y'all.
Take your hands.
Okay, Rob, closing statement.
What would you like to say to the ladies of America
who love or hate you?
Hate is the closest emotion to love.
No.
I'm just kidding.
Thank you.
I don't know, it's confusing.
I'm confused.
You know something, I kind of saw myself,
like after, obviously there was a lot of drama
at the beginning, but after that,
I just thought I was kind of a background character.
Like I didn't really feel in the show anymore.
So I just was kind of like, yeah, whatever,
I'm just chilling.
And then I was surprised when I came out,
it was like a lot of buzz about everything about me.
And that's like-
What do you think this episode is evoking?
Like, what do you think we're giving today?
I don't, I blacked out, I don't really know.
I kind of blacked out too.
I was, I don't-
I feel like I had to ask you the same question
over and over to get you to answer.
And then we just kept going
and I think we got a lot of answers, right?
You did all the like, the stuff I thought,
like all the like drama stuff.
Right.
You got all that stuff.
It's all good.
Like I know you're not going to answer the questions of like,
who did you not like in the villa?
Would you answer that?
No, exactly.
You're shaking your head for those of you
that are listening driving to work.
He's shaking his head.
I mean, I mean, why would you want to talk about that?
Why would you want to focus on the negative Alex?
I know, I know you're saying you're not.
I'm not.
I know. But you know that people are going to be I know, you're saying you're not. I'm not. I know, I'm joking with you.
But you know that people are gonna be like,
why the fuck did you guys not ask certain questions?
Like when, okay, the one moment from movie night
when you saw Leah making fun of you crying.
Yeah.
And then she apologized and it seemed super genuine.
Yeah, that was great.
Oh yeah, that was, okay, so.
How did you feel about that?
So after not leaving, after Andrea left,
I was like kinda regretting it a lot
and that moment made me the most happy I was about staying.
That moment was so great for me, like for us I thought,
which I really liked.
It gave us closure and it was in front of everyone,
which I loved because I'm not the kind of person that like,
I felt like there was weirdness in the villa
about Leah and I, but I'm not the kind of person
that's gonna go to everyone's like, give my side of the villa about Leah and I, but I'm not the kind of person that's gonna go to everyone and give my side
of the story, blah, blah, blah.
I'm just gonna let my actions speak for themselves.
But in that moment, I was given the opportunity
to talk with her and stuff,
and I thought it was really good for us.
And then we had a great conversation after that.
And yeah, we got back to being friends,
and it was good.
The heart rate challenge, did you get a little excited?
No.
You did.
I did not.
You got excited for Leah.
I got excited?
Oh, you mean like a boner?
No, I'm just saying like you got the most.
The way you look excited?
That's how you said it.
You said it like a boner.
Like don't make me weird though.
No, you thought it.
You said it like that.
You said you get a little excited.
You winked at me.
No, no, no, you got a little excited. You winked at me. You got a little excited.
Like your heart rate went up the most for her.
That's why the fan edits are popping off, Rob.
I don't, I just did.
No, I actually think Miguel is an awesome guy.
And it's gonna be interesting to see.
This is the fascination around the show.
It's like, he, what he lives in the UK, right?
And she lives in Calabasas.
It's gonna be interesting for people
and same with Aaron, right?
Like he doesn't, he's gonna-
He's moving to America.
Where does Kayla live?
Pennsylvania.
Oh my God, I'm from Pennsylvania.
She's from a town of 6,000.
No, no, no.
Is Aaron gonna move there?
Truly not.
No, they're gonna move to LA.
Aaron will hate LA.
I don't know, Aaron seems to love those flashy lights.
He will hate LA.
You think?
I hate LA.
That's why I moved.
No offense.
It's great for other people.
Too much concrete for me.
Too much concrete.
You need the woods.
Okay, Rob, is there anything else you wanna say?
Do you feel like you got everything off your chest?
I'm sure after this, I'm gonna think of a million things
and I'm like, damn, I should've said that, but like.
Let's leave it for now.
I'll see you in a year.
We'll catch up, we'll check in,
see how you feel about it all. Whatever you need.
Thank you Rob for coming on.
Thank you.
This was lovely.
Yeah.
This was a nice time.
It was good. I was like, it was good.
Like you didn't feel like it was it harder than you thought it was going to be?
No.
Was it more fun than you thought it was going to be?
Yes.
That's good. You came in here nervous.
Yeah, definitely. I'm still nervous. Do you want to call Dave Portnoy?
Yes. I love Dave Portnoy. Wait, you're a Barstool guy?
Not really, but I like him. He's just like... Cool.
I know people hate him, but like, I like him. Dave is Dave.
He's just Dave. I like genuine people. It was the same... yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like genuine folk. I like people that are just themselves and they don't really give a fuck.
And he's like that. Dave is honest. It's very honest
Even if it hurts your feelings, he's honest. He's gonna be honest. He's gonna be Dave. I like that about him