Call Her Daddy - Saweetie Blocked Numbers Birkin Bags Fbf

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Join Alex in the studio for a fun interview with Saweetie! Saweetie opens up about her current approach to relationships, the craziest way she caught a partner cheating on her, when you should keep gi...fts (especially Birkins) from an ex, and why she might be done dating rappers. She also discusses her love of hot cheetos, the time she was renting rooms from Craigslist, coding on Myspace, and her new music. Enjoy! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Founding father Alex Cooper with call. So weedy, welcome to call her daddy. Hey, girl. Finally. It's like inappropriate that it took this long for us. You know what I mean? You came to my tour and you went so fucking hard. The daddy gang was taking their tops off for you, screaming for you.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Oh, you didn't see that. Upper balcony Titties. Really? I know that's my pretty titty committee. And I had the best time with you. And I was saying to you earlier, like, Everyone was like, so we don't get a fucking episode. And I'm like, it's coming, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:00:42 How are you today? I'm good. You look amazing. You look amazing. Can we talk about your nails? Mm-hmm. I feel like you're like very known for going hard with your nails. What inspired these nails today?
Starting point is 00:00:53 And when I say these, I'm also talking about your toenails. Well, I always get bling on my feet. I've been wearing white toenail polish since I don't know, my 20s. I need like a white polish nail deal. Any other color, my feet look weird. I do feel like no one can go wrong with white toenails, but you have more than white on your feet, so weedy.
Starting point is 00:01:15 That's like glitter crystals. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a motherfucking diamond down there. It's chrome. It's some diamond. How long does it take to do these nails? It can rain. Sometimes it's two hours. Sometimes it could be eight to ten hours.
Starting point is 00:01:29 If it's like freestyling, like custom art paint and then jewels, it takes time. It's like drawing a mural on your fingers. What the fuck are you? doing for 10 hours? Girl, I try to have meetings. I try to like multitask during my nail appointments just so I can like get things done. I am like the opposite where I'm like if I'm putting on like a fake nail, if it takes more than now or I'm like I got to go. They're like, but we haven't finished your last nail. I'm like I don't care. I have I am like so impatient when it comes to my nails and looking at you
Starting point is 00:02:02 say I'm like and those are not press ons. But what inspired these is I shot two Christmas. music videos and um i needed to get into the the holiday season so these actually have snowflakes on them and a reindeer we are you a big christmas person yes i'm filipino like christmas is such a big deal in our culture okay because i always whenever someone's coming out with christmas music i'm always like hold on are you as obsessed with christmas as me because i go so fucking hard like what do you do oh i turned to my husband every single year and i'm like it's september and he's like we are not getting a tree, Alex. I'm like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Okay, real trees are fake trees? I have a real one in my living room. And I go so fucking hard because like the minute fall happens, I'm, I'm ready for fucking Christmas. And I want to like edge towards Christmas. I don't want just December to be Christmas. Like, I want the whole fall experience to be leading up to the main event, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:02:59 So my entire house, I'm decorating. But last year, I didn't do the outside of my house. Like, do you do your house? I just do inside my living room. Okay, yes. Yeah. You're like making it cozy. Yeah, making it cozy.
Starting point is 00:03:10 What is your favorite Christmas tradition? Christmas Eve with my family. What do you do? Like, we open up presents that night, not on Christmas Day. Oh. But, like, my favorite childhood memories would be, like, my mom's mom cooking, Filipino food, hella food, doing karaoke. And then at 12 o'clock, we'd all open up our presents.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I always used to be like, please let us open our presents on Christmas Eve. And my mom would be, like, one. And then I was always, like, the freak that was, like, trying. to like open them and then rewrap them at night. No, I was like, I was like, so my mom was like, well, then you're not getting any of your presence, but I was like, I'm obsessed. And it's just like the best time. Wait, speaking of food, I'm swerving, but I have heard that you like a lot of like different
Starting point is 00:03:54 concoctions of food that maybe some people would be like, wait, that's gross. Can you talk to me about some of the things that you're pairing together that are like random but good in your opinion? Okay. So do you like sushi? Of course. Okay. So like for a tuna roll.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Okay. I'll get hot Cheetos and I'll smush them up and then I'll drizzle them over the tuna roll. That's fucking brilliant. It's actually really good. But are you bringing the Cheetos into the-no? No, girl. Only if I like do some postmates to have. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You were not like smuggling in some hot Cheetos. You got your big purse and you wait for the waiter to walk away. And you're literally like sprinkling. Not. though. Like, I'm not mad about it. Okay, so Cheetos on top of sushi. I've read, is this true? Spaghetti with ranch. Finally, a rumor that's true. Stop. When is the first time you tried that? Honestly, I grew up doing that. Like, that was so second nature to me. So when I had posted it the first time online, I thought nothing of it.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And then I was trending like an hour later. And like, why is this causing such a frenzy? You're like, I've been doing this since I was born. Yeah, since I was born. I think also when you're a child, like you do some stuff that like people, I don't know. It's like, I guess like however you grow up, right? But like this is kind of fucking disgusting and I wouldn't do it now. But like I'm pretty sure when I was younger, I put, oh, this is gross. I'm pretty sure I put ketchup on my mashed potatoes.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Hmm. Wait, but it's like a french fry. That's where, that's where it comes from. Period. Wait, would she want to hear something nasty? Yeah. So when I was a little girl in the middle of the night, I used to sneak into the fridge. and eat butter by itself.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And one day I got caught by my mom, like red-handed, like with a whole bunch of butter. Girl, she scared the crap out of me. She was like, if you continue to eat that butter by itself, you're going to turn into Chucky. I promise you, I never touch butter again. Shut the fuck up. No. You're just raw-dogging it and biting into it. Sweetie.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I know what this wrong with me. You're literally like going. And with your teeth, would you ever smooth it out so no one's odd in the morning? Or were you just leaving it little like your little chicklets? No, I was going in in the middle of the night as a little kid. I mean, listen, butter is, look at us just fully talking about food. We're going to talk about food the whole fucking episode. No.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Okay. Your legal name is Diamante. Yes, girl. Does everyone in your life call you that or do they call you Suiti? Some people call me Diamante. What do your best friends call you? It depends. Tell me.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It depends from what era they met me at. Okay. So my childhood best friends, they'll call me D-D-D. D-D. My middle school friends will call me Suiti because that was my MySpace name. And that's where I had got Soidi from. Like my MySpace was so popping. I'd be at like high school parties or I'd be at, you know, walking at school.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And they'd be like, are you Suiti from MySpace? Yes. What the fuck were you doing on MySpace? Girl, was coding the fuck out of my page. I was, you know, in the middle of the night, sweaty, finding all the codes. Girl, I was a nerd. So my MySpace was like very aesthetically freezing. Stop.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You were a coder from day one. I was a coder from day one. Not even knowing that I was coding, girl. I should have paid for that. No, Genzi has no fucking idea. Like if you missed the Myspace era, changing the backgrounds, getting your new song. Hiding your song. Or hiding your song that nobody knew about, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Oh my God. And so people literally just knew you because you were fucking cool. I mean, I guess. Okay, wait. But before, now take me back before you start your Myspace. Where do you get the name, sweetie? My grandma, yeah. How did she give you that name?
Starting point is 00:07:41 She would just call me her sweetie. That's so fucking cute. Yeah, and then I was signing up for MySpace. And at the time, I didn't really like my name, how I love my name now. Only because people wouldn't pronounce it right. So I was like, I don't want to put it up and then people just don't know how to pronounce my name. So I was like, I need some fly shit. But then I don't want it to be like basic.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So I put the A between the S and the W and the rest was his. Who knew then one day that would be like your global name that the entire world knows you as and not just like a MySpace community. What you want to know what was even crazier is I had started like a business, a hat and a t-shirt business. And my grandma was like, I know you're going to be a big business woman one day. I know that you're going to need your name. So she bought Soidi. She bought me the website Suidi. Like when I was like, I think I think I was like 18 years.
Starting point is 00:08:35 old, 17 or 18 years old shoes. Like, I know you're going to like do something. So let me just get this for you because as a business woman, you're going to need a trademark it. That like gives me chills just because like it seems like you obviously had like a pretty great relationship with your grandmother. Yes, she's everything to me. Is she still with us? Yes. Girl, she's, she's 70 going on 21. What does she think of your whole career now? She has mixed emotions. Okay. She loves it. But when she hears like the negative press, it stresses her out. Yeah. But she's a preacher. So she goes to like war for me in prayer. She's like my prayer warrior. So she's constantly praying for me.
Starting point is 00:09:09 What do you think stresses her out the most and like what could be negative about you? I think that the fact that she knows that some of the rumors aren't true. And she's just like, why don't you say anything? Like this isn't who you are. And I'm just like, it's just only going to make the story bigger. So I choose not to address certain things because I don't want to add fuel to the fire and the best way to get rid of something is to ignore it. So she's just like, yeah, but you know, I know my baby.
Starting point is 00:09:34 That's not my baby right there. So, yeah, she just be going through it sometime. But how did you decide? Like, at what point in your career where you're like, do not give a fuck what people say about me? Because it's easier said than done. I have two answers for this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So the first half, I would say, in the earlier on in my career, I would say I would just disassociate myself from Suiti. Because there's Diamante and there's Suiti. I'm like, okay, if y'all knew Diamante to know me and to love me, y'all wouldn't be doing all this shitty stuff to me. So at first it was disassociation, but now, I'm just so at peace with just who I am. I'm like, God knows my heart.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And as long as God knows my heart, there's no problem. Sweetie, why are you getting emotional? Tell me about that. What do you mean? Like, you're talking about your journey to get here. Oh, man, you're making me cry. Girl! Should we take a water break?
Starting point is 00:10:29 We went from fucking Cheetos and the motherfuck. I don't know why that just made me feel that way. Because I think that when you are someone that is, you know, know yourself, like, and what it took and everything. And then you read, like, the bullshit. And it's such bullshit. You're like, wait, this is what I'm getting reduced to right now. Like, I mean, I could be speaking out of turn.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Like, I don't know if that's your experience. But exactly. It's hard to be like, guys. Oh, my gosh. I see a pretty much. No, stop. I told myself I wasn't going to do this today. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:11:02 One on a clock on a Monday. Mm-hmm. Without getting too detailed, I'm thinking, obviously, of, like if someone is listening that's like becoming a new fan today or like knows you, but it's a little like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Can you lightly just explain a little bit of what we're talking about? Like are we talking romantic? Are we talking friendship?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Are we talking work beef? I think it's everything because as a public figure, all parts of my life in those categories are exposed. Yeah. But I think what I get the most sensitive about is my art. So I'm like, y'all motherfuckers don't know how much I put into this shit, you know? I think it is important, though, to recognize, like, especially with artists, so much goes into it because it's a huge part of you.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Absolutely. Like, you're clearly someone that's not just being handed a script and being like, wear this, dress like this, sing like this is you. Yeah, I'm very peculiar. So I have to be very involved with everything. Otherwise, I'll get the final product. I'll be like, we got to change this, this, and that. And then it takes away more time.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So I'd rather just be hands on from the jump. when would you ever pop off on someone like when are you going to actually like what does it take never i never want to go off on somebody because the thoughts that i think are outrageous sweetie yes no my thoughts and i just did my like my vedic um astrology chart okay and in that um in that system my moon is a scorpio so it just lets you know like where my mind can go so i'm like don't fuck with me for real so you're always a calm. I try to be. Because I just know, I know myself. I can like staring at you right now, you're so like even keel, like calm. Like it's nice. It's like relaxing actually to like being around
Starting point is 00:13:07 you. But I'm trying to envision you like what it takes for someone to like push you over the edge. But you rarely let it get to that point. No. Because then they also win. Yeah. Let's talk about that too. It's an energy exchange. And it's just. like I'd rather alchemize the energy, like take it and then use this energy for something else. Like I don't want to give that back to you. I feel like that sometimes in romantic relationships, it can be hard not to go tip for tat and be like, you did this and I did this. But it feel like you've kind of gotten to a place where clearly you're like... Interestingly, it's weird because sometimes it's like they want a response out of you.
Starting point is 00:13:46 They don't even appreciate the growth. And it like annoys them when you're like, noise then. No, when you're like, okay. And they're like, wait, what the fuck? I literally just called you an XYZ and your response is, no, you doing it right that I can only imagine. That must drive people insane. I mean, it's kind of a superpower. I'm not as strong as you. I, like, I, I, I feel the same way sometimes with my words where I'm like, I could kill you with my words. And I, I think I when I was younger in high school and in college, if someone came for me or my friend, I almost felt like worse when I would see my friend like someone coming for them and I knew they wouldn't speak up for themselves. So then I was the friend that was like, hold on,
Starting point is 00:14:34 let me get the fuck in here and I'm going to say something. But then I also realized like, who is that helping in that moment? Like, I don't know. I feel like sometimes I felt like being like loud and taking charge and putting the person down would like make me feel better. but like you're just getting riled up and they're just happy that you're engaging at the same level as them. Where really when you're like, what are you doing? They're literally like and they're screaming and they're being insane and you're like, what are you good? Oh man, they want to die. They want to crawl into a hole.
Starting point is 00:15:03 They're like, oh my God, wait, wait. So I think it's, I agree, the energy level can be interesting in the way that you interact with someone can like heavily dictate also the way that you leave someone feeling about you. Absolutely. And it's took me a while to get here. Yeah. I wasn't always this like poised when it came to my reaction. So trust me, like, as long as you work on it, like, you'll see yourself evolve. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. Your career took off after you released this song, Icy Girl. Yeah. And it's all about wealth and luxury, but obviously that's not how your life looked your whole life. I remember reading, you were saying you would go on Craigslist. Yes. And stay. How did that come to be?
Starting point is 00:15:46 So, you know, when you get an apartment, you have to do first and last month, first months and last month's rent. Yes. And I was like, oh, my God, buddy, perfect. So I was like, okay, how do I, how do I find a loophole? And the loophole was Craigslist because when you're running or subletting a room from somebody, you're only just paying for your portion of the rent. And it's their name on the lease. So thankfully, I've had some cool roommates.
Starting point is 00:16:16 My two favorite, oh my gosh, bless this old lady's heart. There was an older lady in Studio City and she had a guest house. And I stayed in her guest house. And then there was another woman who I stayed with in Sherman Oaks. I think her roommate had to go back and renew his visa. So I had subletted his room. And I was just like being blessed with all these good roommates that were clean, nice, respectful. I was supposed to say.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You can have some like horror stories, I feel like for roommates. Well, honestly, you have to trust your gut. Like, I'd go see some places and I'd be, I wouldn't like mess with the energy. And I'd like, I got to go. You like knew immediately. I knew immediately. And also a red flag for any people who do do it. Anybody who is super eager impressing you to rent a room, I wouldn't trust that.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah. That is good advice. Yeah, I don't know why. But when you're when you're thirsty and eager to like have a stranger come run a room, I'm like, I don't trust that personality trait. Yeah, you're like, why are you desperate? Yeah, why are you desperate? Like, I want to work for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah, I don't know. Something just be off a little bit. That is, like, beautiful to know, though, that you had, like, a positive experience with that because it's weird in life when you, like, get matched up with people that you probably would have never met. Yeah. And then that, like, has a lasting impact on you and at such, like, a pivotal time for you where you were, like, looking for a home and trying to get to the next step of your career
Starting point is 00:17:43 and to have someone be so beautiful and, like, lovely towards you, that completely changes the dynamic, as opposed to if you went with one of the fucking freaks that was like, come on, come on, the room ready tonight. Exactly. That's the vibe. Like, where would I be if I took that offer? Let's talk about your love life.
Starting point is 00:18:05 What's happening? Are we seeing anybody? Are we in a relationship? Are we single? I am seeing somebody. Yeah. Talk to me. Their name starts with a C.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I thought you're going to say their name. You want to know their name? Kind of. My career girl. Sweetie. Bobby being like, oh my God, fuck, she's really down today. You're like, Christian?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Blah, blah. Damn. Okay, you're dating your career. Yeah. Intentionally. When did you get off the sauce? What does that mean? Like, when did you be like, I'm not, I'm getting off of men for a second.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I'm not dating. I just feel like I'm at a really special time in my career. And I just have all these ideas. And I want to channel my, my energy in a way where I feel like I can make the steps to where I see myself going. And, you know, I'm just really happy right now. I'm happy where my life is heading. So I'm dating my career. I love that answer.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I think that like needs to, I wish that was more of my answer when I was younger. Because I think sometimes we naturally feel like, wait, do I need to get back out there? Like, is it weird that I'm not dating? And it's like, no. I think you need to go through like long periods of time where you can decide what your focus is. And I think that's like amazing that you're focusing on your career. And then also, let me say this.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I feel like some people who have dated. in the past, we would have been better off as creative partners. There was this TikTok. You know, sometimes TikTok be having the information, girl. There is this woman, and I wish I knew her handle because I'm so grateful for this wisdom she had provided. But she was basically saying that sexual energy and creative energy comes from the same place, and when you confuse the energy, you can sometimes, you know, make, I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:20:04 say the wrong decision, but you can lean more into the sexual energy, but then that ruins the creative energy because you've already done. pleaded the energy. That's such a good point. Like anyone that ends up have, even if you're not in your specific industry, like people listening, like, I get it. There's so many people that read into me about like work relationships. And I get what you're saying. And that's a great fucking TikTok because it's like the way that you can feel when you complete a project or you get to the next level of your career or you guys go to a fucking presentation and you crush it. It's like that feeling of like, Oh, we have to rip our clothes off.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And it's like, no. It's a different way of finishing. I fucking love you. What? If we were dating, what is it like to date you? Well, I don't know. If all of your exes were in this room right now, what was that? Nightmare.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I wonder what that conversation would be like. What do you think they would all say? Is there a theme? A theme? Oh, my gosh. Girl, you have to ask them. Would that be happy vibes or like bad vibes if exes were in this room? I think happy vibes.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Really? Yeah, because like I don't really like, no matter what happens, I like, girl, I just be happy. I'm a happy. I'm naturally just a happy person. So I'm like, damn, you did some shady shit. But I'm like, my energy is so disconnected from you that I can, I can not associate myself with what happened between us and just look at you as a regular human being. Oh, that's so nice.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I think a lot of people wish they could feel that way. Like they could not get so wrapped up in, you hurt me and you did this to me and like, how dare you? But also something we have to unpack, too, is a lot of men have unaddressed trauma that they don't face and they projected on their partners. So sometimes I'd be thinking about stuff and I'd be like, what happened to you in your childhood? No, actually. No, right. So then it makes me look at what they did to me because I know that they really love me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Like, I know that. So I'm just like, you got some things to unpack. You should probably handle that. Yeah. Because if you were to handle that, then we probably would have worked out. It's such a mature way to look at things. Like, essentially also what you're saying is like, it has nothing to do with you. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And that's, I think, hard for people sometimes to accept, like, if someone is listening to this and just got cheated on. And you can't help but sometimes think, like, what did I do wrong or what did I not give them or what? And it's like most of the time, it literally has nothing to do with you, which is a weird thing because you almost like want to be able to pinpoint in yourself what you could change so it never happens again. But half of the time it's literally on the other individual. Like you were doing fucking great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:53 You were thriving, sweetie. Right. And I knew that I was a good girlfriend. So it's like, I'm like, something wrong with you. I like that answer. Okay. In one of your songs, you describe your type as someone who makes eight figures and is eight in. What other qualities do you look for in a partner?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Somebody who has high emotional intelligence. Moment of silence for that. We're like, come to us. We're summoning you. Get back. Get the wheat more, bitch. But legit. If they don't have that, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But how do you even get to the point where you can figure out, like, are they a sweet talker or are they actually, like, with it emotionally that they can hang with me? Honestly, just experience. We have to experience a unique situation. And that tells anybody how somebody is. Yeah. That's true. Like, the honeymoon stage can be so easy, Daddy Gang.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Like, you can be like, oh, love the sex, the conversations. And then you hit, like, one bump in the road. someone has a problem with family or finances or insecurity, jealousy. And all of a sudden, how do you guys handle that? Right. It's a good point. Okay. It seems like you have a type.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Do you know what I'm going to say? What do you think your type is? Bro, what's my type? You said. You brought it up. You brought it up. It's your show. rappers.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Okay, let's talk about it. Okay. Okay, so for example, if you're out of high school, right? Okay. You tend to date, I mean, high school or whatever, let's just call it whatever the proximity is. Yes. You're going to date what you're around. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And I think that's why I found myself in those situations because these are the only people that I'm around. However, you know, I'd like to go to a new environment. Ain't along with that. do you think you would venture out well me and my career is doing just fine right now so you know i like that answer though because i think a there's nothing wrong with a type and i also think it's but i wouldn't even call it my like a type i think it's just because of the proximity of where i'm always at these are the people who i'm only engaging and seeing you know yes i remember like back in the day i would talk about how i have
Starting point is 00:25:37 had a pattern. Pattern is better than a type. What can me be like, no, it was just like a little pattern. I had a pattern of dating athletes. How is that, by the way? So, dating athletes. Yeah. You know, it's a, it'll fuck you up, but it'll make you.
Starting point is 00:25:59 It's just, it depends actually what sport, too. Okay, what's the difference? So let's break it down for Icy gang and daddy. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So baseball players. Okay. I find that they are sometimes the sketchiest.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Really? Because they're on the road. They have 160-something games a year. So they're on the road at all times. Okay. And they're playing so many fucking games where as opposed to football, it's like 16 fucking games. And like they're not allowed to have girls in the hotel room. It's super strict for football.
Starting point is 00:26:28 It's like, we got 16 fucking games, motherfucker. Bear down and focus. Right. Baseball, it's like, another day, another game. And so it's kind of more of like a relaxed environment. So there's road beef in every fucking city. We got Minnesota road beef. We've got Miami road beef.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And they literally like call it road beef. What's road beef? Women. Oh, road beef. Oh, hell no. Fuck you. So we're that like and I remember. Well, at least be some wagoo beef.
Starting point is 00:26:57 No, no. But just to confirm, I am the waggoo. I'm not some ground beef taco meat. No. So in college, I remember I was dating this guy and I would be around his single baseball athletes. And the way that they would talk about it was so concerning because it was just like every fucking city there was a different rotation because I think it's like they're just like they're just like they're just like they're just like they go to the move and they're looking like it's almost like when you're in a bubble whether you're like it doesn't even feel like real life when I was like living that life with them. Like they're just every fucking day is this groundhog day. They wake up, they go to the field.
Starting point is 00:27:34 They come home. They have a drink at the bar. they meet the girl, they go to sleep, they do it the next day in the same fucking city. So I would say baseball players are like lethal. They seem so clean cut. No. I never date soccer players because that didn't really do it for me. And hockey players, great, great butts.
Starting point is 00:27:53 No teeth, great butts. And they're kind of, I thought they were better than baseball players. Really? Still players, but like, I'm a little nicer. I've never been attracted to athletes. That's probably for the best. But then again, because, like, I come from a family full of athletes. So it just always feels like, like, you're my cousin.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Like, you know, I don't want to fuck my cousin. Yeah, so I've never, because I never talk to an athlete. Really? Never. I think you also wouldn't have time for them. It's so on their schedule. And I think you have such a busy schedule. You've got to be very available for an athlete.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Like, you got to be up and ready to pick up and go to their life and you don't have time for that shit. No, girl, I literally, I mean, you know this. shot into like four in the morning last night. And now you're here. And now I'm here. Are you typically making the first move or are they? I have made the first move before. And is that like you going up to them and approaching them or are you, what are you?
Starting point is 00:29:05 I'm walking up. Tantile's down. And what are you saying? What are we made, sweetie? Let's reenact it. I mean, it's just a bet. Okay, okay. It's like the vibe in the setting, but you're totally down to go up to someone.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Like if you see something, go for it. Absolutely. What is the boldest way that you've ever put yourself out there for a guy? No. Okay. This is high school. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:31 High school. Okay. Actually, in high school, I talked to an athlete. Yeah. There we go. But after high school, no. Done. I remember it was my senior year and I had a crush on this boy. And I was like, dang.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I only got one more year to see him on campus. The clock is running out. The clock is running out. You know, he was. was like I was big in volleyball I was doing my thing and he was playing football and we had a like an athlete room where like the football players would come review their tapes and then we played during the same season so you know the volleyball girls would come in there and it felt like one big family how do I like get him because he was shy yeah girl so it's rush week so I go
Starting point is 00:30:15 and I was like I have a plan so me and my plan get together and it's lunch and and we're all sitting in the room. And finally, I'm like, I tapped him. I'm like, oh, somebody wants to go speak to you outside. He was like, who? I was like, you know, like probably one of the organizations, it is Rush Week. And he was like, oh, okay, because, you know, sometimes they'll recruit. And if you weren't an athlete, you couldn't come into the room.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah. It was like taboo, like heavily frowned upon him. So we walked outside and we start walking. And he was like, who was it? And I was like, me. what did he say he started laughing it's kind of like really really forward and I love it he started laughing and he goes like why and I'm just like because I wanted to talk to you did you end up going on a date hooking up we like falling in love we started to go to each other's games I mean everybody was
Starting point is 00:31:14 already going to the football games because they were winning that year and then they were already coming to the volleyball games because you know how the football players got a practice. Yeah. But we like intentionally started going to each other's games to like support each other. And then we would go to like in and out afterwards because like that was like the high school club. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Open until 1 a.m. in the morning on the weekends. But yeah, I would go over to his house and like his family would cook for me. I would do my homework over there. So it worked out. Oh, well not worked out. But I mean like, oh, what happened? Did he cheat on you? No, I got bored
Starting point is 00:31:53 So I had to break up with him You got bored Yeah And I was like, I think we'd be better off as friends Shout out wherever you are today We love you But I was honest You were
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, I'm very straightforward If I feel like something's not working out Like I'll tell you I feel like we're not working out Okay, what is the craziest thing in X has ever done to you Give us a fucking story Come on sweetie Come on, this is call her daddy bitch My gosh.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Craziest thing. Go. This actually has happened to me twice. I don't know where men get their information. But I've had, like, I've broken up with people and they found me. What? What does that be? We.
Starting point is 00:32:32 They'll show up to my hotel and be like, room service. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's happened to me twice. Room service. Yes. And what the, the cherry on top is they try to make their voices high pitch.
Starting point is 00:32:48 They go, room service. If only there was a fucking camera outside that room of them, be like, girl, but I don't know. But then it's like they cover the pico. Do you let them in? I did. I did. I was like, and you found me?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Do you find me? You're like somehow you're spinning it. You're like kind of romantic you put in the work. You found me. How have you been someone to historically get back with exes? Or once you're done, are you done? I feel like once I'm done, I'm done. except for when they show up to the hotel?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Um, I feel like those were like many breakups. Okay. Like it was like we were going through something. I might have blocked them. It probably was like a couple days or a couple weeks. Yeah. And I'm just like, it's like a soft breakup, you know? Not a hard breakup.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a big blocker? I'm a big blocker. Send you a paragraph and block your ass. And I want to see them bubbles popping up so I know that you try to be insane. I'm obsessed. How long, because I'm assuming then you unblock. I've unblocked before, but there's people who are still on my block list.
Starting point is 00:34:01 It's been years. Oh. And you don't even wonder. No, I don't. Because I think that, I remember I had a friend that, like, we would always talk about this back in the day when I was in my blocking phase. And she would always say, like, I don't know how you block people. Like, I need to see what they're going to say. Like, it's so interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And I'm like, really? Like, I kind of want it to just fade into the abit. Me too. I love that. Go to the abyss. Really? Like, I kind of don't know what you're going to say. And like, and then you can kind of, like, create what you think they would say in your head. But I kind of don't want to know. Right. Okay. Wow. You're hitting paragraph, then blah. Hit a genius. What is your stance on keeping gifts from an ex? It really just depends. Okay. You know, like, if it's a custom one of one, I'm keeping it. Custom one of one. Yeah. Like, what is a custom one of one that you have? You know, it's a couple things. jewelry jewelry purse purses what's the nicest bag of guys ever bought you i would say a customized burkin and he sent it to me before i met him what what i don't have words i'm i'm a very
Starting point is 00:35:18 talking of person i don't have words yeah it was like some player shit it was my birthday I was single and, you know, we were like casually talking and he was like, where's your address? Isn't your birthday coming up? And I was like, yeah, like, oh, that's nice. He's going to send me flowers. What's funny is, so my birthday passes, it's a week. My maves have cleaned, you know, my condo.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And he hits me up and he's like, so did you like your birthday present? And I'm like, I never got it. And he goes, it should have came in this kind of box. So then I text my maids. And they're like, oh, yeah, we put the box in the, um, the guest room because we didn't know what it was. So I opened up the box. Bitch, I hit that group chat. It was nice.
Starting point is 00:36:07 How long after then did you meet him in person? Oh, for a while. What? Yeah, I was working a lot. Mm-hmm. You got a whole ass burkin before meeting a man. You have the voodoo clam. He didn't even meet you and he knew.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Mm-mm. But how long did that relationship go? Too long or short? I wouldn't even say it was a relationship. Interesting. And that was just like my player partner. Like, did he gift you a lot of things? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Red flag? No. Because like you own it. No, I think that might have been his love language, you know? Interesting. Like I didn't see it as like, oh, he's a trick or he's like. Like I really appreciated his gifts or are very like thought out. The amount of women watching this that are like, note to self, find a man whose love language is,
Starting point is 00:36:58 customized Birkins. Um, okay, worst way that you found out that you've gotten cheated on the door. No, she always, I've been left the room. She just got up. So wee-Wi-Bashing So-Weedy basically just levitated into the air and flipped off the chair. I don't even take a little sippy sip. Oh my god. Mm-hmm, mm-mm. No bad. Oh my goodness gracious. I just filled my water on me, y'all. I need a napkin. Aaron can you please? reaction. Holy shit. Jesus. Jesus Christ. Okay. Okay. So I remember I was talking to this guy, right? Okay. And it was New Year's and I was like, oh my gosh. Like I'm just so happy to see this person and we go out for New Year's, the great night. And we go back to the hotel. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is the most perfect New Year's ever. Like we're out of town. It's just like the vibes were
Starting point is 00:38:12 You could feel the energy in the streets. Like, love was in the air. It's the new year, new me. It's like all these great things happening. And I'm just like, if I felt like I was in a movie. So we get back to the hotel. And I remember I had got a call from a, like, a childhood friend. And when I had picked up the phone, I put it on speaker because I had nothing to hide.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And I'm like, oh, happy New Year's. He was like, happy New Year's. I love you. Like, you've been killing this shit. Like, keep going. so I'm like you too like love you too happy new year's I hang up he's so like drunk that he misinterprets the call and was like you like wow like okay like I know that shall be doing this this and that you know projecting like he couldn't believe that I had a plutonic relationship
Starting point is 00:39:04 with this person and this person's my childhood friend like nothing is going on okay um so he starts cussing me out He was like, I would never do this to you. He was like, man, you can go through my phone. My coat is da-da-da-da-da. And I go, oh, it's da-da-da-da-da. No. I put the code in my phone. But I'm thinking he's probably just like drunk, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Right. Like, it's not the real code. So finally, he goes to sleep. So it's time to investigate. Investigate. investigate investigate so I'm like
Starting point is 00:39:48 okay so I saved the code I said chchchch and it goes you know it's the I'm like wow that easy girl this man has been playing me the whole time but I knew it was like a sickness
Starting point is 00:40:04 because it was like all types of women really yeah did you go for the eye messages first or the pictures um I went I went to the assistant group chat. I went to the assistant messages because, you know, the assistant set up everything for, like, the man.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Oh, my. Oh, and then I was typing in keywords. Like. Genius. Genius. So I was pulling up all the receipts. Yeah, girl. And I remember I had got so sick,
Starting point is 00:40:32 but then so numb that I didn't care because it wasn't like, it wasn't like one person. You know, you know, like, you're not obsessing over one person. And it's like, okay, no, you have the sickness. Right. Like, this is, you can't stop yourself.
Starting point is 00:40:47 You can't stop yourself. What word did you type into the search bar? Girl, anything that's used. It's a flirt. You're like, P-U-S-S-Y, thousand fucking Jesus Christ. You're like, no, that's crazy. And so when he wakes up in the morning, what are we doing? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Girl Girl, girl, girl, girl, girl. You know what time was had. I'm like, oh really? You're a tough guy. Stop. So, okay, back to the beginning of this episode when I was like, what can get you on a different tilt?
Starting point is 00:41:34 Did you enter that different tilt? Is what you're... Girl, I went to a different dimension. Girl. Stop. Girl, craziest night of my life. My best friend was staying in the same hotel as us. I'm just like, I was like the audacity.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And then what made me, like, I always had add humor to like my pain. So I'm just kind of like, how did this boy get mad over a simple conversation yet here you are doing A, B, C, B, C, E, F, Y, Z, you know? No, that's when it's so crazy because I've had an X like that where he was cheating and I, like, he would always get so. anxious and say things about me if it was like the most innocent like we i don't even know that person like wait what like here's my phone like i don't know and when they're so hard on you for that shit eventually you have to be like well what the fuck are you doing that your brain is even on that tilt because i'm not even thinking but it made me realize that when someone does that to you it's because that's what they would do so they're projecting they're projecting from their experience yes yeah
Starting point is 00:42:43 Dude, how long did you stay in that situation, then did you leave? Did you leave that day? It's okay if you didn't. No, but let's just say, yeah, girl. We were out of sound and, yeah, girl. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I have never had someone to answer a question like that. And yet it says so many words.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay, wow.
Starting point is 00:43:32 So it ended eventually, though. Yeah, it ended. Clearly. Where do you draw the line of forgiving someone when you find out they cheated? Honestly, I was younger. Mm-hmm. So, like, I... for me it was like oh this is definitely a deal breaker but you know when like you're in love with
Starting point is 00:44:06 somebody it's just kind of like okay well I can't just delete you out of my life like this yeah but right now like in my adult years like it's definitely a deal breaker for me and in that moment I think I would like tell that person like you probably have to figure out why you're doing this you know that makes sense when it comes to your music what is fair game of like writing songs about people that have screwed you over or you've been in love with like where do you draw the line? I think I keep it ambiguous. Okay. Yeah. And I feel like from my album I am going into deeper subjects and I'm really excited about that. I feel like I'm in my diamond era. Like I've, well, I came in as an icy girl, but through all this pressure that I've placed
Starting point is 00:44:57 on myself and all the pressure that I've experienced with the industry, I feel like it's pressurized me into this diamond that's ready to shine. I fucking love that for you. Obviously, I know you have been teasing an album for a while. When can people expect it to come out? Definitely next year. Okay. Yeah. Why was it so important for you to wait to release it? I feel like I finally know myself. Like when I felt like I was constantly in this weird transition phase, especially with recording. like what am I even talking about? But with who I am now, I know what my public messaging is. Okay, Christmas songs.
Starting point is 00:45:35 We need to talk about this. I'm in my car. I'm like, ooh, ooh, ooh. And like we said at the beginning of this episode, I fucking love Christmas. You love Christmas. Talk to me about deciding to do these two Christmas songs. Like, how did you decide to do this? Well, you know, I love icy season because I'm an icy girl.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And it's just like, I got to give something to the icy gang this winter. So I wanted to create like two songs or every least spoke to the two different sides. of Christmas. I got big Santa where I'm like big daddy, which you get in me. And then my other Christmas song is a little bit more, you know, soft. It's like cater to you vibes. Like, not only like, what can you give me, but what can I give you? Oh my God. Sweetie. It's good. Like everything that you do and put out, all of your music is such a vibe. And I think like, again, I'm happy I got to talk to you today for a longer period of time than just like meeting you on tour but like watching you on stage at my tour was such a spiritual experience truly all of us were like holding hands and gripping each
Starting point is 00:46:35 other being like she's fucking insane even to the point where my team had texted me when you were in sound check being like oh this is going to be the best yet like you guys don't even know you're so talented and you have such a presence on stage and just like as a person that I think is so exciting to see what you're going to obviously continue to do but like I'm obviously so excited for the album and you know we we want it so we we want it um I want to ask just because I know obviously your fans are going to be watching this like what is one goal that you have for yourself coming up in this new year and like your career that you want to like share with your family um I want to be an action film like a tomb raider or like a like a columbiana oh something with just action because i really love
Starting point is 00:47:24 like doing stunts and i'm a sporty girl right um but i love a good heroin that is the last thing i expected and yet like i can see it wait are you like gonna make that happen i would like for it to have you god do you hear me yeah yeah like here we go anybody watching this in hollywood hello And I audition too. I'm not one of those people where I feel like well I feel like I can just show up and get the role like I'd be sending in audition tapes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I guess like last question is like what do you think what do you think is the biggest misunderstanding about you? I'm not sure what the collective thinks because everybody has their own opinion. But one thing that I do get a lot is that when people meet me, they say that they didn't expect this.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I guess it's a common response that I get. But it's for the better because they'd be like, wow, like the compliments are different. But for some reason, there's been a disconnect with who I am and what my perception to like the world is. Yeah. That's interesting because I, I guess like I agree and disagree. Like when I listen to your music, it's so confident.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Like you put this shit on. You're like, I'm going to fucking feel. good when I'm listening to your music. And I think everyone feels that way. And it's, it's like a experience that you literally feel in your body where you're like, oh, fuck yes. Like I'm about to pop my pussy tonight. Let's fucking go. And then meeting you, you are a multi-dimensional person. Like, you're not just the person that's hyping everyone up. Like you have this like sweet sensitive side that I'm like meeting today. And I met in Oakland. And I think that's something that we don't get to see as often with artists because understandably like we're listening to music but when we are so fortunate
Starting point is 00:49:16 to get to also get to know the personality behind the music right i have found through my job and it's my favorite part of my job when i meet someone and they are a little bit different than maybe the main public persona that's being pushed because i think it's again just shows people like we don't know everything right like you can listen to a song and think that people know you you can go listen to one of my episodes and be like, oh, she's this one way. But understandably, like, I'm going to be different when I'm having a fun episode versus when I'm talking about, like, trauma and shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:49 Like, we show up in different ways for different moments of our life. And I feel like you're such a beautiful person that I'm so happy that I got to sit with you because I didn't know as much about you as now I'm happy to know. And, like, I love you. I think you're like such a great fucking vibe. And I'm so happy that we've gotten to connect on this level because I don't, I like sitting with people and getting to know them more. And you're amazing. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And today, like, I realized why you're number one. Stop. Yes, this was such a comfortable, safe and fun experience. Girl, you almost had me crying in the beginning, girl. You almost have me crying. I was heaving. I was like, hmm, boom, hold on, bitch. Don't drop a tear.
Starting point is 00:50:34 No, I really appreciate you going there with me, though, because, again, And like everything we see online, it can come off as fake. And I think when you get to do long form shit like this, you actually get a chance to like start to finish. Like people now are going to understand you more. Not that you need to give that to them, but like you're a great fucking person. So why not? So thank you. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Sweetie, we did it. Thanks for coming and call our daddy. Thank you.

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