Call Her Daddy - Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

This week, Father Cooper sits down with Spencer Pratt. Spoiler alert: Spencer gets pissed and storms out of the interview after Alex asks a triggering question. But, before the tantrum, Spencer name drops practically everyone in Hollywood and gives us the 101 on how to become famous. We know the drill, Spencer Pratt walked so Kim Kardashian could run. But according to Spencer, fame isn’t even cool anymore! We get the juicy tea on his attempt to join the Illuminati and his sleepover with Hillary Clinton. The OG villain, Spencer reminisces about the early days of reality tv - when he and Heidi were once the most famous (and hated) couple in the world. And then…the question that ended the interview. “You will obviously never be as relevant as you once were, how does that make you feel?”

Spencer Pratt, you will obviously never be as relevant as you were. How does that make you feel? Oh yeah? Fuck you, fuck this interview, stupid podcast, fuck this shit's over in here. Is he actually leaving? What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father, Cooper with call her daddy. Okay, here we go. Mr. Pratt.

Look at this outfit. I love it. Oh my god, so nice to meet you. The devil is attacking me. Oh my god, the devil? Well, the second I get in my car, it's never happened in my life, it says engine coolant, I'm like what the fuck does that mean? So go to the gas station,

I'm like, oh, buy engine coolant, I put it in, and it's like spraying out, I call BMW service, they're like, you need to tow it right now. I'm like, I gotta go to Caller Daddy. No, fuck the car. Like, uh, you know. Oh my god.

Okay, do you, can you mic yourself up immediately? Cause we're getting into this. This is very fancy. Wait, isn't it cute? It's my, Spencer, it's the first time I'm using these. I feel honored. I'm honored because I knew you were someone that would know how to put it on and use it.

I usually let them do it. That's like the perks. So I should have done it. Okay, we're going over here to make a drink. You didn't even get good tequila. This is embarrassing. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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Spencer, I tried. You're not in 1942, come on. Spotify, what is going on? Budget cuts. I have a champagne bottle. Okay, so Spencer, right off the bat, is just shitting on me for not having. I also needed this.

Your ticket. I have that car coolant, I was a lot. Okay, yeah, let's talk about what happened. All right, so I get in the car. I was going to be here very early. I was going to sit in the car, meditate, just visualize the best freaking podcast ever. And I get in the car and it says engine coolant. I'm like, I'm not a mechanic, but this seems bad.

So I go to the car place real quick. I'm like, I need engine coolant. I'm very late to the biggest podcast in my life statistically. Um, and so he's like, Oh my God, it's leaking everywhere. And I'm like, pour more in. So we pour more and I called BMW. They're like, you need to tow it here, right? I'm like, I'm not towing it. Like the car could shut down on you on the way that I'm like, well,, then it's gonna shut down cause I'm not missing this. Let's pop the Dom. Okay, okay.

Do you wanna pop the Dom? I mean, I'll drink that. Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. That's a better way to go about it. Okay, I feel like you should do the honors. You know, here's the thing I've learned cause Heidi's a professional champagne bottle opener.

I used to like the like excitement of, but she- Right, like you wanna spread it all over my camera? Yeah, and she's like, no, you're not even supposed to have barely a noise. It's not a game to guard that you come in like that. You treat it like that, because people are always, oh, you're gonna, he's dead.

So the key, what I've been taught, is you just slowly, it's less exciting, but let's not waste this money. Ow. I mean, picking off the Caller Daddy podcast, beautiful. Cheers to the daddy gay. I am so honored to be involved with your mafia. I'm so honored you're here. They're going to love you.

Spencer, you are popping off on TikTok. I need to know what is your mafia. I'm so honored you're here. They're going to love you. Spencer, you are popping off on TikTok. I need to know what is your strategy. It was drinking. And then that's why I haven't been TikToking. Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened. I don't know how it happened. So what people loved to...

I had to stop because Heidi was like, you play the hills in the house anymore. Like, I'm going to choke you. Like, she can't even. It's like nails on a chalkboard. So I'm like, honey, these are going viral. Like this one just did a meal in like 10 minutes. And she's like, I don't care.

Like stop talking about that. So I'm like, it's relevant to a niche micro audience, honey. So, you know. That is fucking hilarious. It's a hard balance because I'm also blowing up all these people that I can't stand. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, ah, do I, like, I'm like, ah, the views,

but I'm like, nobody. I kind of love that Heidi's like, Spencer, knock it the fuck off. And you're like, can't hear you, a million views, gotta go. This is so delicious. Spencer. I can't believe you don't have a chacuterie plate

though for us. Oh my god. Okay, we're going upstairs to the interview. Are you ready? Should we bring this or no? Let's leave it. You need to drive home in your fucked up car. Oh no I'm towing it.

Oh here? You're towing it here? Oh it's a tow situation. Oh you're towing it here? I wasn't supposed to get here. If Heidi picking you up? I said I would. Uber.

Black Uber X. Censor. It's all about the money. Let's go upstairs. Oh my gosh. That's it. ["I'm Not Afraid"] All right. Deep breath.

No, I'm praying. You're praying. Do you want to pray out loud? Please God have this just be the greatest podcast to ever hit the waves of this dimension. Have it just touch so many people's hearts in a positive enlightening way God and just truly be a blessing for everyone's ears and if they're visually watching this with captions just when they read it just have their spirit just be uplifted and inspired amen that was a little too much Holy Spirit almost fainted there oh my god Do you believe in God? Oh yeah. Okay. But I mean Heidi like took

it to the next level because she's like a preacher. Really? Like I was trying to be in the Illuminati when I met Heidi. Wait, were you really? Oh 100%. I didn't realize they're like drinking blood and you know all the weird weird I thought it was just like sex parties like Eyes Wide Shut. Oh, right everybody older than you know, 18 You wanted to be a part of the sex parties? Not just the party but like that like the Tom Cruise movie like that Oh, you know pretty like minus like people disappearing. It looks totally my vibe. Thank you for kicking us off I feel really Zen and calm. I almost just started crying

I don't know if it was tears of joy or laughter, but it was something you got an emotion out of me. I mean, it hit me to I don't know it's good AC in here. Like I almost fainted. Okay, Spencer Pratt. Welcome to Call Our Daddy. I'm so honored. You grew up in California, going to school with celebrities and celebrities kids. Who was the first famous person

you remember meeting in your life? Oh, hands down, Meryl Streep. I was on the set of Death Becomes Her, I think it was the title, where she's like falling apart. So shout out, she would deny knowing me at this point. But I think her name was Mamie Gummer. We were BFFs, we were very young, and we would go set, and it was Meryl Streep

and I would be chilling on set. So yeah. I did not expect the answer that's fucking baller. Oh, I mean, I went to Crossroads. The list goes on, but that's like the cool like just in this mansion and you know, I mean, then it's next thing you know, I'm having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton, you know So I mean like my you have to clarify you're having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton So my best friend Charlie His parents were best friends with the Clintons from Arkansas And so when I was a kid, you know, I'd always sleep over Charlie's house But one night, you know, you know, I was pre checked, you know, I knew this was gonna happen

So Secret Service did their thing. I think I was pre-checked. You know, I knew this was gonna happen. So Secret Service did their thing. I think I was a safe 14-year-old or whatever. And so, yeah, I had a slumber party. I was in the kitchen with Hillary. That was wild. So you reference your high school and how you were surrounded by a lot of famous people.

What were you like in high school and what did the other kids think about you? Well, I try to say that I am exactly, you know, I've learned a lot of lessons, but I would say I'm the exact same person that I've always been and I haven't changed. So you know, I just as many people that didn't like me back then, you know, I had, you know, enemies putting up, you know, dick drawn on my face around town. So I came in it like hot. So I think because for my private school world,

soccer was our big sport. We didn't have football teams. So I was, for my world, really good at soccer. So I was on the older teams. So when I was 15, all the seniors, I was rolling with them. So everything got fast forward. Like when I watch, I don't watch you for you, but when I see clips, I'm like, oh my God, this is the Disney Channel compared to like LA and growing up.

Now it's crazy because you just die of fentanyl and whatever. So it's definitely like darker now. So I pray for these kids. But it was amazing. Everyone's always like, Oh, why don't you like write it? Like people that know me, you should write a memoir. Like, no way. You wouldn't? Well, right now I just found all these tapes and I was like, maybe I just cut together. Like Heidi was calling it selling Spencer was because I really have just been trying

to sell myself for all these years. Not my soul though, that's the one thing I've stayed, that's why I'm not rich and famous, is because I didn't cross that tier of. What would have crossing that tier looked like though? Because I think to the world, it looks like you sold it. Oh no, there's a whole nother Satanism level there,

you know, I didn't unlock. Like what would you do? I mean, what do they do? Right. These people that you just they're not upfront with it but there's a more we're talking spiritual level not like oh what you say on a show like these people are going. Okay so it's interesting because I feel like what you were saying about being in high school like you were always kind of this like polarizing figure. There gonna be people that like me,

and then there are gonna be people that don't like me, and that's okay. But when you were younger, did you ever get in trouble for your temper? Well, in one soccer game, you know, backstory. So in high school, you know, we went to GNCs, you get protein powders, you get energy drinks. So at the time, there was this product called Rip Fuel. And I was like, that's every brand I

want to be ripped and fuel. So and they had a strawberry flavor one. So I was hitting Rip Fuel before games. You know, you just mix in your water. It's legal. It's like Gatorade for me, whatever. You know, I never drink Gatorade though. Um, it's not brought to you by Gatorade. I can't be promo in Gatorade. So yeah, I was all pumped up on Rip Fuel, you know, and it was very competitive. And I was taking this very serious. And so this was the semi-finals and there was like a team little meeting the

night before the game that this coach who no longer the coach for a reason, shout out Fed, the new coach. So the seniors didn't go to this team meeting that was unnecessary the night before a game. So the next day, biggest game of the senior year, semifinals, he benches all eight of the best players, the seniors, hands down, the best players the seniors hands down the best players including myself We're now losing a half like 2-0, you know, I'm pacing the side of them Like this is like you we get it like and he wanted to make a point like we don't need you like he thought they were Gonna do fine with like whatever

So finally at halftime we go back in I go in score two goals tie it up So pumped up score a third goal. Now we're winning. He goes sub. He tries to pull me out. I'm like, I don't know if I flicked him off or whatever. I'm like, you know, I must have been mean like, what's up? Like, you know, I mean, the crowd, this is back when people cared, you know, you know, like living, you know, this was our Friday night lights, right? It was probably on Friday too. And so, you know, I went to the sideline and, you know, maybe got in the coach's face and my mom ran on the field. My mom, you know, this was crazy what he did.

So my mom backed me up, but I didn't hit anybody. I didn't, there was no, it was just yelling. He's yelling back. So I get called in cause they're maybe gonna suspend me. And they're like, you were acting very pumped up. Like were you on something? I'm like, yeah, Rip Fuel. And they're like, what's Rip Fuel?

Can you bring this into like the principal office? Tom Nolan, Bob Riddle just retired, bye bye Bob. So I bring in the Rip Fuel and they read the back of it and it had a phedrine in it, which is now illegal. And they decided it was like speed. So I would just dose up on, you know, rip fuel. So that got me not suspended or expelled or whatever. But other than that, like, no, I was teacher,

I have tight with all the teachers. So you got to blame your behavior on rip fuel. I mean, it was, it was a stimulant. Totally. Was anyone else taking it with you? The whole team. Oh, okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I was more stimulant. Totally. Was anyone else taking it with you? The whole team. OK, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I mean, I was more pumped up. So who was your first famous friend? Like, we kicked it with all the, like, the first famous person we started kicking it with was Paris Hilton. Peaked the most famous person on planet. That was when I saw, like when I saw firsthand, real deal, new modern tabloid fame.

Because I had grown up with A-list celebrities, parents, and I saw that's more low-key, and it hadn't, this was peak, Paris coming in the game, tabloid cover, energy, paparazzi, and I will always say, I'm not close with her, I don't know her, but she was so consistently nice, and she didn't even need, I'm my entourage hangar owner, like rando, and still got treated with, you know.

So I'll always say, good for you. That Paris Hilton era was the beginning of it all with paparazzi, like do you think that sparked something in you of like, damn. I want to know that. No, I was telling people at age 16, bringing in Us Weekly covers, telling folks, get ready, I'm gonna be on the cover of Us Weekly. And people were like, what is this?

My mom always had tablets. So I grew up with tablets around the house and nobody appreciated them like I did. So I was, pre-P Paris, I was already coming hot. There was no doubt in my mind. You were gonna be on those tabloids. Okay, but in your head, Spencer, what were you thinking you were gonna be on the tabloids for?

I had no idea, but I was like, I'm gonna be famous. These famous people have it so figured out. I mean, because when you grow up, seeing how famous people live, just eyes on the reservation, that's world's over, by the way. People are like, oh, like, you know, as a just eyes on like the reservation, that's world's over by the way, like people are like, oh, he's so thirsty, he still wants to be famous. Like fame isn't even cool anymore now.

I would love to have it, but it's still not, you know, 90s to early 2000s when these people live. I mean, they were taking helicopters, landing on, just the rules have changed to the game. So what I grew up thinking fame was, is so different. Like I wouldn't grow up now be like, I'll do respect to TikTok. I love being viral on TikTok,

but I don't think I'll be like, oh my God, I wanna be a viral TikToker as like what I was chasing. If you had grown up in Ohio, like do you think because of where you grew up and what you were around is why you wanted to be famous? Cause you got to see for yourself. Oh, 100%.

Yeah. Like I think in Ohio, one of these other states I would have ended up in like Delta Force and gone in the military or been a spy or something. Yeah, that was my brand. That's why I don't have tattoos because that was always like, well, if I am gonna be Jason Bourne,

you can't have tattoos. So, you know, like I was like deep in. Logical. But the problem was I lived in the Palisades. I was like, I'd get killed or like go to Nobu. I wanna go to Nobu, not have to go and fight crack. In a different state, that's the energy I have. Okay, I was looking this up and nowhere is this story.

When and how did you meet Brody Jenner? Rewind to eighth grade, I won't say her last name. Maybe she's anonymous. Heather was the girl on the eighth grade soccer team and I was on the soccer bus because they had other guys and girls on the same soccer bus. Brody played no sports. So eighth grade, Heather was the hot, super hot, superstar girl and Brody was her boyfriend. And so I was like, this dude, and Brody at this time

thought he was, you know, it was pre M&M I think, but Brody was like a large M&M, like no pun intended. You know, he was a bigger guy, he loved to melt cheese. I later found out he just melt a cube of cheese and just like eat it with a spoon. So he was, he then got ripped and like changed. But this Brody was like a rapper, melted cheese. And I was like, how is this happening?

So we had just beef in the sense, I was like, how is this your girlfriend? Like we have soccer practice together. We have way more in common. So I don't know what I said, but we got in like the only little shoving match in middle school So that we had beef, but then years later this girl that I was seeing Casey I won't say her last name because I'm not trying to catch a case

She was dating me and I somebody tells me that's Brody's girlfriend I'm like, she's not Brody's girlfriend like so I bring it up to her and I'm like do you have a boyfriend? And she's like well I didn't think we were like exclusively I was like oh no I don't care that's all good but it's like I reach out to Brody through mutual friends I'm like yeah you know I know we're not cool or whatever but we should meet at Don Antonio's and talk, you know Cuz I guess I had heard he like love this girl and I was like and so we meet up and I'm like your girlfriend It's not your girlfriend. He's a and I'm like Like I didn't know like she told me but I when I found out that's why I called you and he's like

I'm gonna call Mike. No, no, no, no, no, you know, this is pre all these teen movies We should have made a team. It was like, I think we play this out a little bit. So we started becoming best friends on making plans with her. And then the other person would cancel, he'd cancel and then she called me and I'd be like, yeah, yeah. And then she may get those plans.

And we did this for a while to the point where maybe we crossed the line or whatever. But it was like, you wanna play the game. We'll play the game. Yeah, let's play it. So we became best friends at, this was probably 18. How did you get cast on The Hills? So now we're going back to, I'm now in college.

I don't know how I see something about the Osbournes making $25 million for the, and I'd seen the show. was like oh this is entertaining they got dogs pooping Ozzy yells like that and so I'm like I'm gonna make a reality show so I call Brody I'm like we got to meet at P.F. Chang's when P.F. Chang's it just like P.F. Chang's was Mr. Chow's at this point there wasn't Mr. Chow's like this was the hottest Chinese food spot you could go to so we meet at P.F. Chang's he brings Chucky his like consignolary like advisor Chucky to coup and so I'm like I want to make a reality show about you and he's like I don't know about that and Chucky's like you should

do it to Brian as my advisor I'm like he's like here's the deal if you come to my house tomorrow at 8 a.m. with the camera start filming I'll do'm like he's like here's the deal if you come to my house tomorrow at 8 a.m With the camera start filming. I'll do it. He's calling my bluff because I'm a sleeper in at this time I'm not trying to be up all the way Malibu like at Cross Creek So I had a camera cuz I just tried to shoot a documentary in Brazil about like the real like I tried to make my own Taken, you know Like pre taken with like a kidnapping and I shot this full film that I was like...

Can you please release that? It's pretty hardcore because it was like I use real people and like people that see it are like, this is so inappropriate and intense. But like at that time kidnapping was like the big thing and I was already in Brazil and I was like, I need to make a... So it looks... It's too real, you know, like Brazil and I you know I was like I needed to make a so it looks it's too real you know like it's like whoa like it was like oh they were in or tourists and then them like the vans come and duct tape like it's crazy you guys should like but it like I could have if I had

like a good editor I would have won of Sundance because it was like no act like I went to the Flavella's gave people cash all real guns from like got real cops to like I mean it was so crazy because I want to be a filmmaker you know like like I didn't you know that was clout was like Michael Bay like you know so I was like I'm yeah so I edit this I show Brody's like Don't you dare show anybody this you won't go to jail But I mean everyone's in on it, you know Yeah, and Brody's like people are gonna be a little certain this was your girlfriend at the time like it's like she wanted to be an actress

Like she was actor there's clearly evidence showing this was you know everyone was fine and like it was as real as I needed a kid now so in Brazil I have the full I just so I had the camera but good camera GL2 Canon and so I show up 8 a.m. I have this one tape Like I rewatch this other day. I show up camera on him in his nose. Just trolling him like pushing it in he's like So I tell my parents I'm withdrawing from USC and taking a leave of absence. They're like what I'm like I'll make a reality show. Oh my god. I'm like, don't worry, I can go back. I mean, at this point, they're like, I'm glad he's back from Brazil. Yeah, no. So.

We I started just filming everything in the house, but his stepdad is a superstar mega six and in real life, he is literally telling me, stop fucking filming me, get the fuck out of my house. And, you know, at the time Paris and and Nicole were on Fox so I was saying this is Fox Dave You know I didn't appreciate who he was Brody said he makes elevator music like that was my David Foster Like so that's my percent and I'm like you make elevator music fuck off Yeah, like that was the energy like Brody's like says you make elevator music. So I had no like, oh, it's Dave Fuzz.

I'm like in his face, he's swearing at us. You know, he's like, get the fuck out of my house. And my head was like, we have a bigger man. It's okay. We have a bigger mansion. There's more dogs here. They're like 10 dogs shitting everywhere. And he was a superstar.

And then we have Brody's mom, Linda Thompson, who at one time Elvis was trying to marry dated Elvis for five years Linda's incredible TV legend So she's playing all into it and letting us like let the boys do the boy You know, so and I'm living the life too. I'm never stopping filming because they have the chef. I'm going in the fridge I got a plate that says Dave I'm eating his food all day from the chef and we edit it right there just like you know a few minutes on Sunday night I get a call from this guy and he's like Spencer. I'm like, who's this? And he's like, it's Peter

I'm like Peter who and he's like Peter churnin He's the chairman of News Corp that owns Fox and he's like you have a meeting tomorrow at 9 a.m With Gail Berman. I'm like cool Who's Gail Berman? He's like Spencer. She's the president of Fox television. She knows the deal just go to the meeting I'm like, okay, and he hangs up. I'm like, okay So I called Dave Foster and I talked she I'm like going to Fox Fosman You know talk all this smack. This is where he murked me out because he didn't have like now he's like Oh, this is real. So he didn't have faith in me like I don't think he

knew what level I had already got it done. Yeah. So he calls his boy because David's Canadian he calls his homie from Canada that like they had tried to do some projects together in the past and he's like you got to go to this meeting. So I pull up like out of a movie and I get to the Fox lot right there every time I drive by it and I still my memory that you just out of a movie and I get to the Fox lot right there. Every time I drive by it now, I still am like, God, what a memory that you just came and make up. And I pull up my Spencer Pratt for Gail Berman and they're like, Oh, sorry, somebody already used your drive on. I'm like, what does that mean?

They're like, you're going to have to park on the street. And like, I'm like, wait, what? So now I'm like parking down Pico, like running. And I'm in my like dumb purple shirt that, you know, that I thought was like a fancy shirt, you know, that I didn't have like, I didn't like have designer clothes or whatever. So I like this stupid purple shirt on. Somehow later in that day,

Peter Ternan sees me, he's there and he's like, don't you ever wear that dumb ass shirt ever again? I'm like, oh, okay. So I go into the meeting and I get in the elevator and this guy in this full suit is smoking a cigar and we're going up in the elevator and he's big old guy and he's like, you know, I'm like, who's this guy? And these other guys in suits and so they're like

walking with me and we're all walking. I'm like, no, they're all going in the same place as me. So Gail offers us in that meeting $3.7 million. I'm like, yeah, they're all going in the same place as me. So Gail offers us in that meeting, $3.7 million. I'm like, yeah, deal. Deal. Deal. Fucking deal. And they're like, no, then we're like, we're going to go see some, we're going to ABC, da, da, da. I'm like, who the fuck are they? Like, no, deal. And so they jacked me. And they like, if I hadn't called David, I would have had so much more creative control, but I was 20. And so they jacked me and they like if I hadn't called David I would have so much more creative control, but I was 20 and so

Then I find out like, you know, I get a lawyer and they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not the executive person I'm like, I'm like that sounds like I sounds like I am that and they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not So I call a pH. I'm like they're saying I'm not and he's like makes a call and then now I'm executive producer I was the youngest executive producer of a network television show to this day in history and they try to fight that and So then they make the show and at this point on my first day of filming a Fox show Keep in mind. This is when Fox was peak Fox We are getting launched with the reboot of Family Guy on Sunday nights before the Simpsons our sponsor is Coca-Cola McDonald's that were like getting ads and they're like I am gonna

be a millionaire like in a month I have my walkie-talkie that says executive producer day one I'm behind camera they're filming and then everyone's like Spencer you need to go in and like do what you're doing cuz in it everyone's always talking shit to me like in this sizzle and everything cuz I'm like the like crutch the bad like the guy that lives in the guest house to energy the Kato Kaelin vibe right so I'm like now I got my walkie talkie like you'll get to keep your walkie talkie I'm like okay so I didn't realize I like it was like the matrix pill like I that was when I sabotaged my entire life of being taken seriously, crossing in front of that camera.

I was like, oh yeah, I get my walkie talkie still. I got my title, but I didn't get, that was the end of like anyone ever being like respecting you in this business. But which is crazy to hear too for you Spencer, because by you, they clearly were like, wait, we're filming this shit and we're not getting the same thing

that Spencer came with his DVD because it was you. Brody was so comfortable with you being like, Spencer get the fuck out of my face. And like David Foster's like, Spencer, like everyone knew you so they were giving you that content. They're not gonna do it as easily in front of these like random guys with cameras. So they needed you to get back in there,

but that sucks that then your credit basically got taken in terms of a producer. So I looked still this whole time not getting that nobody else was gonna think this, what looked at myself as an on-camera producer. I was just filming, doing the story bites, da da da da. So that night, Linda has a talk with us, our first night of filming, and she's like,

I caught David cheating on me in the studio. And I'm like, well, so, you know, like, what are we doing here? And so like, we pretty much just like, beg her to like, just pause this, you know, and she's like, I now appreciate it more, but at the time, like, I was so deep in like this is our like like who cares like let's roll like you let's launch like and so she gangstered up and was like I'll do and I didn't

really understand what you meant like I'll do the filming but I didn't get so then let's fast forward the night the show premieres she's like I informed Fox that I'm filing for divorce tomorrow morning and I'm like what you know you know nowadays that ratings up people love that dark thing this is a family-friendly Sunday I get my third call from the chairman news for he's like Spencer what the F we bought a family-friendly show for Sunday nights I'm pulling the plug after next week's episode is done so we get the one you know rated well for the summer we get one more and I just lot and I spent all my money that my first check on my BMW

that now I like didn't have money for gas you know figured it was speaking like because I was like game on you know we're gonna be so rich damn that's wild that like day one of filming, she like caught him cheating. And you're like, wait, no, we need one, this house to film in, this two, we need the family together. And then the rest of the season, they just like, she tried to fake it for you guys.

Yeah, she did. And she's a real good actor. And so I get that call, I'm like, oh my God, I have to go back to college? You know, like, so now I'm back in college. Brody Jenner had step siblings at the time. When do you remember meeting Kim Kardashian for the first time and what was she like back then?

All right, so I just shout out Esquire magazine for profiling me and the big, I thought this was gonna be like positive but since I said I should be Kim Kardashian people like got all weirded out about that but it's I feel that you know so I'm just gonna defend myself so now we're at the first night of the Princess Malibu our Fox show I didn't even know he had stepsisters I wasn't't even aware. Maybe I met them that night. Like totally irrelevant. A week later, you know, this has been denied, but Brody's the witness and I

don't know if he'll maybe he'll say it, but it's true. We get a call from Chris Jenner, who I don't know. And he puts her on speaker and she's like, we should do what you're doing in Malibu with our family in the valley with your dad Brody and and he hangs up and I'm like the valley you know because like when I grew up like you did not this isn't me saying this is what I grew up knowing there was nobody filming anything in the valley except pornos you know like that was what the I you know that's where they shot. People used to shit on the valley. Yeah now give me one of those 80 million dollar valley houses I guess. It's still unique AC. But so we laughed haha and I've thought about it a million times. Was that the call that like sabotaged my whole life that I didn't take? But then I really thought about it a million times. They went to then to Ryan Seacrest who had a first look

deal with E. They had to make a show per his contract and they went to him and he had the power of not only E News, Kiss FM was popping, he just got American Idol. Like that's a solid, I don't think if Brody and I had gone with cameras, shot the Kardashians, it would have been what the Kardashians, like everything came perfect for what their magical portal happened. So I've thought about it a trillion times, but I've met her for real, for real in the club.

I remember Aria, you know, she was wearing like an Urvay ledger, silver, purplish dress, you know, and Kim looked like a superstar and was famous, like she deserves day one jump, she was famous at this point, energetically, she knew who she was gonna be, so she had that aura, and like, you know, I was joking with Kim,

and you know, we were all having fun, she was totally cool, but that, I remember meeting her at the club, and like, you know, then she later filmed on the hills and organized Heidi's closet and they didn't use the footage and I once said this in an interview and Her publicist was like this is absolute lie Dadada and then MTV pulled out the clip think one time they ever backed me with receipts and like showed unedited Kim I every now and then somebody tags me in a tweet of her tweeting at me,

like, you and Heidi and Reggie need to go on a double date. And I'm like, how was I so popping in my head that I'm not following through with this double date? I did follow through when Miley Cyrus tweeted us and we went and double dated with her and that. So I wasn't too insane. But if I had done everything different, and if I was super, for how thirsty I am like what I should have done is been friends with everybody

That's what Kim is was so good at and I'm not that type of person Like I don't want to go have fake lunches and fake drinks and what if I played the game like a pro I would have gone to drinks all the time with people that hated me and I hated them back and we'd just all be fake. But it's like, that's the problem with being a real person, which is good for reality TV, but like not for networking and building these. Because people will message me like, oh, we should do this and you can reach out to like your celebrity friend. Like my what friends?

Like I got my friends from preschool and they don't even want me to name drop that I know them, you know. So. I got my friends from preschool and they don't even want me to name drop that I know them, you know, so. No, I appreciate that because I think that a lot of people don't know about the Princess of Malibu. Like if you're on TikTok, sorry, but people may not know about it. And I think that it was interesting when you look back at your history that you started this like basically little reality show following Brody around and Kim is just like there in a scene

and you're like, whoa, like this was the beginning and then I believe you that Chris called because it's like you guys were doing it before the Kardashian started it. No, and at the time, Bruce, not, wasn't Kailin, so at the time Bruce was filming for Princes so Chris, they didn't use any of the footage, but like he would come film and he'd be on it. So he's going back home and tell like,

this is crazy. Da da da da. And you know, at the same time, the simple life's popping. So Kim's knowing about reality TV through Paris. And that's when reality TV really started to pop off was like slowly like the simple life and then obviously Though the biggest I think was when the hills popped off and that was when it was like Holy shit. This is reality TV and because yes, I got to the hill This would be two-part caller daddy fuckers Come on we're gonna merch get your merch, call daddy.com. So, so wait. So yeah.

So go back to college. So go back to college. And then one day I'm back from class, whatever. And my mom's best friend, Lucy, they're in there watching this show. And my mom's friends, Lucy, like you should date this girl. She's so cute.

I'm like, what is this? And they're watching in. She's like, date this girl. She's so cute. And it's Heidi. And I'm like, what is this show? Like, how is this even a show? This is season one. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I ever seen. Like, I'm like, I'm like. She's like, date this girl, she's so cute. And it's Heidi. And I'm like, what is this show? How is this even a show?

This is season one. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I ever seen in my life. And I'm like, this on TV? Like, yeah, it's so cute. And I see one of the names of the executive producers was a guy that Brody and I literally hired. We had a meeting, we hired. So I have his cell phone number.

I call him, I'm like, mother-monger, you have a new show and you didn't put Brody and I he's like Spencer No, it's a set cast of this girl from Laguna Beach. You like it's not like that Mike. Oh, no, it's like that We'll see you in the club. Like I don't think so. That's our show you got like Hollywood like and this one Brody was like running the clubs and like So all the respect no girl from Laguna Beach is doing a Hollywood show Mike they have a Hollywood show and you're so Yeah, so we're out. It's club was called privilege

Justin Timberlake was just popping with sexy. Can I I think I remember just like hitting so hard in the in the frickin Club and so this is when I was very into dancing, you know I remember it just like hitting so hard in the freaking club. And so this is when I was very into dancing. This was people dance back then. People weren't too cool to dance. We wanted to stand around. Like it was like dancing time. So I was dancing and then Kristen was at the bar with Heidi

and Heidi just in season one. I didn't know what even that meant. Nobody Hills was not popping. So Heidi and I clear the dance floor. We're having a great time dancing, hit it off. We all drive back to Brody's house in Malibu. So she ends up spending the night. We, you know, she says it's love at first sight.

I guess now in retrospect it was, but you know, I had, you know, player ego, clout, fame, vibe. So I was like, and then she tells, you know, we're seeing each other, but she is seeing, clout, fame vibe. So I was like, and then she tells, we're seeing each other, but she is seeing, she's not exclusive either to me. When I met Heidi, she was writing a book, had chapters, how to outplay the player. She had game galore.

She was not this like innocent victim, like, oh my God, Spencer's talking to those playmates. She was talking to old dude over here and old dude here. She had two, she had an A-list athlete and an A-list actor she was dating when I was supposedly looking like the bad guy. So they showed real Heidi and not this bootleg, just making girls look like this.

That was where you got to see like Awesome girl that I would fall in love with who like show a girl a game that Yeah, like this is why I liked her. She's like she was no victim. I wasn't playing her. It was like battle We were at like a master chess dating and so that's how I see she was dating Yeah, she was dating? Yeah, she was dating Chase Crawford, who was like the it, like hot guy, you know, peak, you know. Gossip girl, yeah.

Like couldn't be cooler. So she wasn't like, oh poor Spencer. Like, there was not that energy. I love hearing you say that though, because I always felt that vibe from Heidi, but they always cast her as this like damsel in distress like Jordyn's being that mean to me and then she meets you and it's like Spencer's being mean to me I'm like that's not the

vibe I get from Heidi. So the problem with Heidi and I we love making TV shows and doing what the producers saying here's the problem with the Hills all male producers East Coast waspypie, fricking dudes, that they're now in charge of representing young women in Hollywood and they're putting their toxic, male, weird narrative spins that they, that's not facts and it's not real life because I don't even think any of these guys date,

you know, like they don't know, maybe they saw it in a movie or something. Like they can't fathom a woman like spitting game on a guy and like change your number, like fuck you. Way better show too. It's like real Heidi was, I always say this, people to this day, like, oh, how are you still, it's like, cause you don't know real Heidi.

Like you guys are all like, it's like, it's like, yeah, like I'm, they're not showing me begging her to be boyfriend and girlfriend. You know what, she's like, I don't want that title. Like, you know your toes. Yeah, like they're not showing me begging her to be boyfriend girlfriend. Yeah. I don't want that title. Right. She was more, yeah. So yeah, she a game.

She was a gangster. So now knowing that's actually a really great story that it goes all the way back to your mom looking at the TV and being like, oh, you should date this girl. And then you guys actually meet and you immediately have a vibe What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her? What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her?

So let's do a disclaimer here for you know, Elsie Stans, because they're always like, oh my god, he still has to talk about Elsie. It's like, no, no, I was connected to a television franchise. And this is a co star that is part of my fame people, I would love to have never talked to her for about the rest of my life but I am a great guest and I am honest and truthful so there you go so that's for the comment section so I I mean nice nice girl like I we was all good to the point where I talked Brody in to breaking up in the Cole Richie to fake double date with LC

So like that's the level of how I felt about her Like let me help make your life better by bringing the best looking guy in Hollywood right now who all the girls want a date I'll get him to break up with his celebrity, you know superstar girlfriend I will get him to come on your show pretend pretend to be your, you know, interest to just everyone wins. You know, so like I was, I'm a teammate. I come from being on a team sport. I didn't play tennis. I didn't play golf. Like the team wins. That's how I've always thought. So I was like, let's all win. We'll double gate. And I was already in the, you know, game from like working with the paparazzi for Princess of Malibu and setting up our shoots and so like I was like

You know our first double date. I had us coming out of the Grove, you know all due respect to Elsie She'd never been in a tabloid until I unlocked that for her and gave her the you know as a teammate not you know I'm not on what credit I I wanted us all to win. So I had our paparazzi This is pre the entire world now does this. This was vintage genius, where you work with them instead of like hiding from them, because this one tabloids sold like albums, like you could Drake, you know, one week,

three million sales on us. Like this was superpowers that I knew understood. And I just watched a season two episode, Elsie knew because if you look at on the couch She has every tabloid in her lap. That's what she's reading. So don't be mad at me girl So we come out of our double date and I'm like make sure you guys look to the left, you know This is off-camera just I'm really trying to like get us all to hang out of friends cuz now Heidi and I are seeing each other not boyfriend girlfriend and

She's like what is it? I'm like is that our camera? She's like you called the paparazzi? I'm like yeah to get you into madness. So that was I was like oh you're not all there you know like don't have a full deck running here as you're trying to be on your second television show. Like it's not like I'm all for people who don't want to be famous but like you're on a second show like you spun off like I I get it fell into your lap in high school,

and it came to you, and you auditioned, but now you've spun off. You are choosing the path of fame. So now I'm like, so she, from the jump, kind of was weirded out, like, oh, Spencer's, that's why she'll say things like, I don't trust him. You didn't understand, I was ahead of this game. I already saw how this worked on a way bigger scale

because I'm not from Laguna Beach, I'm from here. And watching Paris, watching how Nicole, Nicole's an actual, we ended up having a falling out or whatever, I was misquoted I think. But she's a genius, so she's a fame genius. So I studied under, I'll call her a mentor in the in the fame game. So I She just oh she's she That's why Paris called her smartest friend to be her teammate she didn't call Kim, you know

But so back to like, you know everything we're best best friends she's like you want to meet my dad but eventually the Brody couldn't play pretend anymore yeah I wasn't saying fake date LC that wasn't the initiative like I was like this would be great like Heidi's cool their roommates like I was hoping it worked out it didn't work out from night one you know like so once she was on to that she wanted her amazing wingman, which I under wingwoman, totally get Heidi to not be with me. So her selfish motivations, she can put it on all these reasons of like, oh, I don't trust him or look at, she knew Heidi, like she knew Heidi's game.

She knew about this and we know her. These girls were not victims. Okay. They had their own television show. They were in the right in the heart of Hollywood they're going out every night getting tables these aren't these like pilgrims that like we're like oh he's poor little innocent you know yeah these girls are savvy and I didn't get raised on being on television while 1670 like you're a veteran at this point. Like, yeah, I understood the backside of like tabloids and media,

but when it came to making a TV show and like murking out people and like, you know, what comments say this, like this is a black belt level. Yeah. With regard to your relationship with Heidi, how did you guys separate reality from reality TV to keep your relationship healthy? Thank God the show was so fake that it was you know every

time and now and then Heidi would get a little too drunk like one time in area like she knew I told her like we're gonna call these playmates I'm gonna bring these girls and she knew and she's like I'll meet there and then drunk Heidi's like asshole and like you know, and she's like, oh, me there. And then drunk Heidi's like, asshole. And she really got all up in her feelings. Cause she was like, I don't even want that. But that's the problem when you even play reality. There's times where it affects you in real life.

So thankfully it was so fake that all the fighting and everything was so planned and rehearsed and scripted that it didn't. And then the other thing is we lived in my parents house in the Palisades like in my high school room like so we leave Hollywood and just go have our simple you know life and you know we weren't up in the scene like it looks so like we never lived in that apartment that we filmed in or that house we filmed in. So, I imagine it would have been harder

if we were immersed in that world and these were our real friends and our real relationship. You guys really took a turn to be like the most hated couple in the world and Heidi got all the surgery. Did you ever try to convince Heidi not to get surgery? No. One thing I never tried to do ever with Heidi and what people don't understand is like,

Heidi's the boss. I work for Heidi to this day. That's this whole, like, you know, that's the people who really know the inner workings of our relationship. Like, excuse me, my French, like, I'm the pussy whip. Like, you know, it's not like oh Heidi I think you should do is like Heidi Came from a little town in Crested Butte with dreams of being a star like she like so no

I never told Heidi what to do because I just I was I was filming her she's like put the camera on me Camera man like you know if you watch the footage like I'm just her her. She was like, put the camera on me, cameraman. Like, you know, if you watch the footage, like I'm just her cameraman. I said to her yesterday, I'm like, I'm literally your cameraman. So, also let's rewind to surgery, because it's in tears. First time she even got the idea of getting surgery was Us Weekly approached her and was like,

hey, we have this top plastic surgeon, wasn't even in her head, you know, that wants to do, you know, we'll give you a nose job and implants and Heidi's like and they're like this would cost 50,000 whatever and Heidi's a hustler and she's like 50,000 for free and this us week is coming to me I'm not gonna say his name Ken came to her and so you know yeah you know and she'd grown up getting made fun of about her nose her whole life you look this was early day

comment section every single comment I'm always like don't read that as just saying she has a Jay Leno chin and so she's now in her head of all these Things that's early, you know comment section so that she has this meeting with this top, you know, rest in peace Dr. Frank Ryan, he's dead, but she has a meeting with him and he she's showing he's showing her all the a-list Superstars all the things he's done, but you know sign top secret. They're not telling anyone It's just she's realizing this is the game So she does the nose job boobs. It's not the end of the world people don't you know people she didn't have to tell the truth Also, like yeah this time. I'm not gonna say other big

have to tell the truth also like this time I'm not gonna say other big pop people were literally without a doubt got nose jobs got it like that was standard operating procedure but I do is just honest like I'm gonna tell people this is what I did which you know I'm like I don't care whatever like keep in mind I've already dated Heidi for so long in love already felt like this isn't like oh this is what you need to do now for us to be like we're already battling the world like this isn't gonna change our relationships I'm like I don't win win I don't care either way whatever do what you want to do to your body I'm scared and the I couldn't even I can't even get shots like so this is way past my world of knives and you know so all

good the follow-up the one that people all freaked out on I'll never forget I even have it on video as she's going in cuz she when she was doing her Miss Universe she got elbowed by one of the backup dancers and they hit her nose and so she like like it's like dead in they're gonna pop it out whatever so she goes to have like that done that morning he's like hmm while you're under, we could just, and I hear the word minor, so many times, it's so early in the morning

when you drop these people off for surgery, it's like, I'm not even thinking, I hear minor, she's already got lip injections, that's the minor, like, oh, minor, and you hear the word injectable, and this, everything's minor, and he's just had this blue pen, and he's just like, like, there's a lot of blue, neither of us are thinking, like, oh my God, he's like, this is minor, is the word we heard a million times,

cut to like the most traumatic. So no, it was not like a positive time. That's also just so crazy to hear you talk about it too, because of like how manipulative and really scary, when you're young, you don't understand and these doctors should do a better job of explaining. The fact that they said minor to you and you're like, it was in the morning.

Also the fact that you're like, it was the day of, and they're like, we can just do this. We'll scoop out your back, we'll pin back your ears, we'll cut your chin. And he's saying the price of each thing. And back to Heidi, who's like a banker, he's like, this is 25,000, I mean, it was like a quarter million dollars

when he like, he's like, and I'll cross, all this was like out of like a movie where he like, you're like shopping for clothes and they add it all up and he's like, void, zero dollars. So it's like in her head, and this business, like, oh my God, he's giving me a quarter million to like make head and this business like a business like oh my god He's giving me a quarter million to like make and this what all nine name stars But this is what all they do what they spread it out like everything she did is like standard a list totally

I'm not naming the women, but it's obvious. This is standard a list women, but once a year You know, you don't knock it all out. You don't drop it off at the body shop. What do you miss about being one of the most famous couples in the world at the time? Oh, just the money. Yeah, like I would, if you asked me to never be famous or just be rich, I would, I thought being famous was the easy way to get rich. Like if I put the amount of energy as I put it into being famous as just doing a normal rich person job, like a banker,

I would be rich. So yeah, getting just paid by Coca-Cola to hold a Coca-Cola, like here's $10,000, like what? So that level of, why do you wanna be famous? Because it's so hard, but it's so easy when you're like in the, when you're getting the checks. Like at one time we were making a million dollars a year selling our paparazzi photos, like going and looking cheesy,

you know, like dressing up in dumb little like Easter bunny. Like, so that part is hands down. Yeah, funny. That makes sense. So that part is hands down. That makes sense. People hated you more than people who murdered people. You were more hated than OJ Simpson at one point. And Casey Anthony. Yep. How did that make you feel at the time? Well at the time it was a victory because David Foster had put me into the game by he knew Simon Cowell I didn't watch American Idol and he was like Spence once the Fox are going he's like you need to be the young Simon Cowell like who like he's like the like the hated guy the villain the like you know I was like

gotcha like sound sounds easy coach put me in so I there was no social media I was so naive to think and I thought everybody knew Hollywood was just lights, camera action, fake as could be. I didn't understand middle America. This was Bible. You know like this was you know the Holy Spirit over here and I'm over here just trying to get ratings bonuses like if we ever got to five million I got a million dollar check just that day so no matter what I'm reading I'm over here like chasing a million dollar one like we're like at 4.2 for but I'm like oh what could I do to get to that million dollars to do what I'm already doing

that night so my mindset at that one at one time I had like hate Spencer Pratt calm where like you could go and like Comment like I hate like I thought it was so fun and like ridiculous until you know I started driving around and like everyone just flicking me off out windows like oh my god Like who's watching this show like chill like I thought this was like a fun like party show Hey, I guess isn't the news on like aren't we in Iraq? Like isn't there a war? Like I just never understood because I came from like play pretend with the princes and everything and I just thought you know so no. You understood what you were doing and then when people did it and they thought it was real you were like

wait guys yeah and I know and like Brody will say to anybody that's like, Spencer planned every single, he's a witness to like the pre, like the blueprint, like I executed it too well. And here's how they got me, and this is how the predatory producer, and me being naive, and Heidi just hit me with this, and I was like, oh my God, I'm so triggered by that quote.

They were always saying, this is your redemption arc, we're gonna redeem. So I'm always chasing like, you do this and then we're gonna, so I'm like, I like this. But it's like, I should have been like, watch Batman. I'm like, there's no way the Joker is getting redeemed like part three, you know, like, I just like, oh yeah, that sounds great.

You're gonna redeem me? Yeah, what, season four? Like, woo! So like, I fell for that, just con. Which, you know, that's a problem when you're 23 and you do think you're smarter than everybody, which I obviously was not, that I just got, you know, I thought I was in with everybody and I'm working with this producer that I already made this show with, but it's like, oh no, they were sailing me off the waterfall, like Niagara.

And, you know, I didn't care because they're also blood money paying, you know, we're the highest paid people on television at this time. So I'm going, I had a million dollar suit collection, not even wear suits, and then I gave them all to my friend who was a real estate agent, shout out Mikey P. And you know, so like, I was like, what do you do with all this money? You buy a suit, it's like a ritual. Save it, save it. No, oh no, no, buy gold.

That's what I would say. That's the one thing I did that was smart at one time. I bought like all this gold, so I carried a backpack around with like half a million gold coins. Because you can't spend gold. You know, it takes- It would keep you in line. What about a business manager?

We had a problem with business managers, let me tell you. They take your money? Not only do they take, they take 5% of all the money you spend because they have to do the math for it. Oh, so be careful with a business manager because they love you spending money. That's their favorite

Yeah, I should have bought more of it right right right okay Spencer you created the concept I am now convinced I look back and I'm like there was simple life There was like newlyweds with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey like early early days, but you Created the reality show villain. Oh, I'll take that 1000%. Right? Like, give me my one credit. Yeah.

I'm going to add that to my Wikipedia. The originator of the reality show villain. And it was fun until you realize, like, there's no getting out. So as I look back, they were Frankenbiting, is what I learned later, is where they're just taking audio and putting it there and putting you at an event you're not at, saying you did this. I was just watching this episode where Lauren comes in, like that Heidi stood her up and there's a note from Heidi.

Anyone that knows Heidi, her handwriting looks like Egyptian hieroglyphs, like she doesn't know what she's writing, I don't know if she can even write like and so this cute little note like sorry Lauren LC like I can't hang out like went to the movies of sensor love you like perfect calligraphy like how you never wrote that note they never told her she was standing up LC it's like these simple things like murky Wow and Lauren's playing her long she knows how do you didn't write that note and coming in like, Heidi, Heidi, knowing like you were just in your apartment.

They just mic'd you up like, do like good for you. Like freaking Blake Lively over there. ["Diamond Lively"] So let me explain to you what I'm thinking. I've sat down with reality people now and sitting down with you who was like the originator of the villain. I want to expose how easily the edit process is that reality TV uses to make something look like a conversation happened

and it really was a complete different conversation that happened, do you know what I mean? So who is someone that you really dislike? Like someone that pisses you off and can get you like riled up? You can be Adam DeVillo. Okay, I'm Adam DeVille, okay? And I'm going to, we're in a fight.

We are in a fight right now. I'm Adam, you're Spencer. And I'm talking so much shit to you. This is what's gonna happen is the point is, is I'm gonna, it's like I'm a producer being like, you're pissed at Adam, what would you say to Adam? And it's like, fuck you. And then you walk out of the interview.

What I'm gonna do is at the beginning of this episode, it's gonna be a cold open and I'm gonna dub in a different question of me being like, Spencer, you're irrelevant, how do you feel? And you're gonna be looking at me when really everyone right now will see what that original thing was. I'm talking about Adam DeVillo,

but we're gonna cut it and make it look like you were shitting on me and you walk out of the Color Daddy interview. Oh my gosh. You ready? It's so scary. Well give me a few minutes. No I see the vision but I'm just trying to think about what I would actually say that could come off believable. Like fuck you. You're fucking predatory person. Ooh, that's pretty good. Oh my God, that's better than anything we had. That's way stronger than a fuck you.

Do you have a notes app of what you want to say to Adam Tevillo? Uh, yeah, I do. You need to drink some of your flat champagne. We're gonna need to get, we can do it twice. We just want to get the best. And again, what is happening right here is going to go in the episode. Just so you know, you're not getting fucked over.

We're going to show this problem. You know, as long as this goes on Spotify, I don't care what you show. Power of edit, baby. I liked that first line you said. Yes. But it's not dramatic enough. Right. Because I mean you are a predatory person.

I can't even take it seriously. Okay, here we go. I think it would be dramatic if you get up and walk. I'm gonna definitely. Okay, you're practicing, you're practicing. Oh yeah? Fuck you, fuck this interview, stupid podcast, fuck this shit's over here. What the fuck?

That was good. Spencer! The low key. Spencer! Dude, that was good. That was good. It has to be more low key otherwise. I agree.

I agree. No, I think that was pretty good because you said, fuck you, fuck this. I'm going to do one more and I'm going to keep all this in of like, guys, this is, this is, I'm like poking him. I'm Adam DeVille. I'm like, you are- So that so that's the thing you wouldn't even that's what's so crazy about reality Adam DeBello wouldn't be here. They send these but they call like for the hills was called the she was called the collector That's how shady this shit is to collect the and she would just get shit out of you No, she would come and like she fake jerked off and bust it a nut on my face

and like she fake jerked off and busted a nut on my face to pump like to like and it worked and why I like went nuts okay so let's like channel that annoyance hi honey who do I who do I really dislike that I could channel just like lots of anger for a fake scene here? I feel like I don't talk to enough people to hate anybody anymore. I just hate who hater your car. Oh, thank you honey. I knew you would know. Love you honey, bye! Love you, bye.

I'm so excited to be included. You're welcome. Here, I'll put you on the mic. There you go. Love you. Oh good,, here, I'll put you on the mic. There you go, you're good, you're good. Love you. I'm good, shout out, shout out. PrattDaddy.com, PrattDaddy.com. Love you, stream superficial. Okay, get out of your car. Oh, lots of people did, but one, one I have to see.

Pretend I'm him. You're a fucking loser. Yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh. This is the biggest fucking waste of time. I can't even believe Spotify gave you a fucking show. I bet this doesn't even last another fucking year. Why don't you just delete this whole fucking episode. Good luck with your little imaginary boyfriend you never show on fucking IG stories.

Fuck you Alex. Fucking Cooper. Fucking fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. story. Fuck you Alex fucking Cooper fucking fuck. Spencer, Spencer, Meryl Streep. No that was good. What I've learned is like the more exaggerated the faker it looks now because now everyone

is so exaggerated on all these shows. So you gotta like. Well in post edit and that's the beauty again I'll share with everyone watching is like we'll look back and see which one looks more real maybe the first one looks more real cuz it was less try-hard. I may even you know the Holy Spirit I may give you a third just out of nowhere so you know third you know you have to do these 12 times that's like that video I sent you yeah yeah and I've rewatched it like this supposedly where I'm bullying Heidi into like moving in with me to like I would never move into Cursin Avenue. Like I'm not bullying anyone to like live across from fucking Boa or Boca. What is it? I don't even

yeah like a liquor store. Like so no I was not but this big scene this was when it was a wrap for me was when I she she's like, I don't think I wanna move in with you, like doing her Meryl Streep level, and I'm like, then get out, my answer is get out of my car. We did that at least 12 times. They're like, floor the car more, and they're shooting the exhaust pipes.

She gets in the car right after, we go to Donna Antonio's, like that's just a night, but like, boom, and here's how I'm even crazier. The song that they like put to it, like apologize. I gave them the One Republic song. It was like, this would be so good. Cause Heidi was like in talks to do a song with Ryan Tedder and he like played me that.

I'm like, I'll get this on the Hill. So then I even gave them the murder song. As we're kind of- We're not wrapping up. No, we're not. Oh my God. No, no, no, we're not. I'm not leaving. no we're not oh my god no no no we're not you're like i'm not leaving thank you for playing along that was a great promo is there a specific

manufactured storyline you regret saying yes to yeah this sex tape i didn't think people like big deal i thought it was like clout too like kim just made so much off of hers it wasn't a negative there were nothing no tape even ended up coming out So like I thought that that's why I played along called a fake producer That wasn't on a phone with LC is me pretending to apologize something. I didn't do to a producer like yeah To your knowledge did Adam DeVille ever abuse his power when producing the show and in what ways? You know, here's what's so funny like like I was ready to go all in on Adam Dill, but I'm a mercenary. If they call me right now to be on Selling Sunset and I hate him more than anyone on Earth, I'll be like,

what's my fee? You know, like so you can't even ask somebody who's like a mercenary about people because like I should have known his last name is devil with an O like that's not a coincidence and think here's the other thing that I now have the benefit of perspective with yeah like we've now been on two seasons of Celebrity Big Brother we are locked up you know 50 plus days of producer we did I'm a celebrity get me out of here marriage boot camp wife swap famous food like the list of shows of dealing with producers, not to mention all these pilots to shoot and like there's nobody like that guy. So here's the problem with people

like Adam and how they'll always win. They're male and he brings in his enablers and they're all like guarded. You know I'm not saying this is like, they will always win because there's then me, the mercenary, because I know this is a demonic demon, and I was like, put me on Netflix. So all these people around Christine, they're not gonna back her because they don't wanna rock the ship. They don't wanna, you know,

they don't want Selling Sunset to end. So that's how me too and these people are enabled because the people around them are like, ain't happening to me like you, because I'm one of his like, I'm sure the way he treated Whitney and LC, God knows how they probably love him because when things did come out in Heidi's story,

whatever, guess who's the first one to be like, he's the best guy ever, maybe to you, but that's not the truth. That's your, you can't defend, you know, so. Totally, and I think it's fucked up because like you're saying, these men in these position of power insulate themselves with all these other men

that are going to make him almost impenetrable to any type of getting in trouble. And however, what you're saying also is because you're the mercenary, it's fucked up. We saw Christine Quinn was one of the first people which she's fortunate, she's got a lot of fucking money. She's got her own money and she's got her husband that has a fuck ton of money.

And so when you're in a position where you need this person that's in a position of power and fucked up, but you need to make a living, you need money, you're kind of at the hands of their power. And so I hear what you're saying. You're like, I would take the Netflix show because that's what your career is, but you're not saying he's a good guy.

I wanna, because I've never talked about this to my listeners. So when Heidi was on Call Her Daddy last year, she brought up an incident where the producer from the Hills was physical with her. After filming that episode, the MTV rep that repped Heidi called my team and said, you need to take that out of the episode or you can't air it.

I don't even know if Heidi knows this. She definitely does not. Okay. Shout out Joya and Jay and who else. I love you guys. Right, I don't even know. Heidi knows this. She definitely doesn't know it. Okay. Shout out Joya and Jay and who else. I love you guys. Right, I don't even know. So we get this call. That's what's so shady because it's like,

they protect the net, like I love MTV, but it's like, that's Adam. She didn't say MTV. You can't, like that's the- So my team gets this call and Daddy Gang listening, like you can go back and that interview, they said you have to take that part out or you can't air the episode.

I thought it was coming from Heidi and I'm like, who am I to put someone's like abuse story out there if they don't want it out? So I took it out of the episode. Fast forward, few weeks ago, Christine Quinn sits down with me and she talks about how Adam DeVillo is the new producer who is the original producer of The Hills.

And she mentions Heidi's name in the interview saying we both had really bad experiences with these producers. Immediately, I message Heidi. I go right to Heidi, because I'm like, I don't wanna put your name in the episode if you're not comfortable with it. I know Christine doesn't wanna speak for you.

I want to make sure you're good with it. And Heidi was like, absolutely put it in there. It's the truth. To which I then realized, oh my God, last year, I fully got played. I was like, last year, that was not Heidi not wanting to put that in. But now that you're done with the Hills,

can you explain what the fuck happened with that whole situation? Again, I wasn't there. I was never allowed to be, that's why these Predator type people like that, people that want the smoke, they won't have, like, I never interacted with Adam ever, once he knew my level, you know, like,

you don't play, like, I don't play. So I never got to interact with Adam because it would have been on. So I was banned from the photo shoot that this happened. So what I did was send, shout out Kevin Carlson, her bodyguard to go in my place because I'm not allowed to go to her photo shoot. So again, you would need Heidi here, but from what I recall is she had one of those loose fitting you know I guess there was also a comment about her new boobs you know

like you know because she just had nobody had seen that whatever and she had one of those backs that like her open back where it's like pretty much like in the right angles like butt cheek you know like of a dress and I guess he like put his hand like asshtray grab and the security to the point where he like chopped her his hand off and was like, checked him. You know, shout out, Kevin Gangster. But he was there. This happened. So we had a witness. We like he was, you know.

It makes me really sad for Heidi that it took years. Like everyone is believing Christine Quinn right now. Oh I literally when this came out I all again I didn't watch something because I hate this person so much I don't care how good the show is Adam right but when I saw so it's like this is an angel from heaven just came out and then she's in this outfit I'm like she is out of the this is the matrix this is literally Trinity coming to like, and it took what, 12 years? Like you can go back on Google and she was like,

this is not appropriate. Like you can't, like she felt the point where she called me and I was like, what the fuck? So I called and I left some psycho message, you know, like I hope he still has it. I hope he can too. You know, but here's how weird life is. And so when I went back to college to finally graduate in 2013,

I'm in a Staples on Olympic and I go, because I drink lots of water and fluids, I go pee in the Staples and I'm not a, I like to go in the stalls and pee, I feel more protected. So I open the stall door, guess whose face I look at? Adam. Adam DeVillo.

I haven't seen this person since 2000, maybe the first night of Hills filming. I've never even seen him since then open and he looks like I'm there to murder him. Cause this is like some random staples in the men's room, in the stall, he's coming out and he's like, and it's like, and it took me, I didn't process like who,

why is this freaking out? So out of contact. Yeah, like what's happening? I just wanna pee, like you're blocking the urinal here, like toilet, get out of the way. And he's like, Spencer, what are you doing here? I'm like, Adam, what are you doing? He's like, I'm going to the bathroom.

I'm like, I'm going to the bathroom. Why are you in staples? I'm like, buying books for college. Why are you here? He's like, because I work down the street and this is the better bathroom. I'm like, huh? So to this day, I think he doesn't believe I was buying Staples and it was like, I can touch you if I want.

I could get you anywhere type. Just know anytime you're going to the bathroom, I could open the stall door and be there. That's how I think God wanted me to have that last, like don't ever feel too cozy on that toilet because that door could open and it could be me. So, you know, like it was a weird moment, but it's like, I didn't have, it had been three years. I was back in college.

I didn't, I hadn't been, I'm now back in the game, trying to be famous again. So like I'm mad again, but then I hadn't been, I'm now back in the game, trying to be famous again, so I'm mad again, but then I didn't really care, but he couldn't accept it, and I was so chill, and I was like, oh, what are you up to? And he was like, what are you? And then Heidi comes like, why are you here? And she's like, I'm, it was just such a good.

He did not believe it could have been a coincidence. Yeah, no way. He's like, you aren't here to kill me, or stalking me. One trillion percent. Here's the weirdest part. So years before this, just to show you how demonic this project with the Hills was, we go out for a pitch with one of these evil producers,

because again, we're mercenaries, and he's like, hey, I wanna pitch you to Lifetime. We're like, okay, like his right-hand guy. So we go to this pitch, and we're sitting there, and he's like, it's amazing, we can all tell him this Lifetime lifetime executive that we can all sit here. I mean, at one time we were trying to steal Heidi's soul and like Heidi just starts hysterically crying in real life because she's like so triggered by like knowing that like she felt that. And it's

like the pitch went so sideways, like stealing her soul. Like what? We Adam DeVillo said that? No, no, his right hand. Oh, his right hand man. His teammate. Literally said at one point we were trying to steal Heidi's soul, now look where we are. Yeah, like and we can all be together in like pitches. And Heidi's like, that's why he felt that way

for so many years, you fucking psychos. Okay, what is the wildest thing you've done to make a headline? Tell us. Oh, I mean, any headline that you ever saw, I was behind. And so it's like, I actually, thanks to my mom, she's like, I have a, the biggest thing you've ever seen in your life of every cover,

tabloid, everything I've ever been in. And the other day, I pulled it out just to like, cause I was going to do Tik TOKs on them. I was like, everyone was the most crazy other day I pulled it out just to like, cause I was gonna do TikToks on them. I was like, everyone was the most crazy stories. I'm like, made that up, made that up, made that up. One time we made our entire house look like it, we were squatters. They're not squatters, like,

what are those people that like fill up a house with stuff? Oh, hoarders. Hoarders, we filled it up with hoarders and like, you know, like just made it like piled up and like got an in touch magazine cover like Heidi and Spencer, Aron Squalor, in touch cover. I think we got 25K shout out Dan Wakeford. What the fuck?

Yeah, like, so I mean, like that's like a petty one but like everything you can ever think of. We once did a deal for like a half a million just for four covers of us weekly There's no we didn't know what the covers words like let's make stuff up You know so I'd have to go through but like the weirdest thing that I didn't have to do with that I saw a headline recently that Heidi called me the article said Heidi called me like chicken legs or something and Spencer was gonna get calf implants. I was like, calf implants?

Even if I had, I don't have a big calf, but I wouldn't, I hate needles, but that's the level. Calf, and I was like, so I have so many of them. I'm just behind them all. That's really cool that you have those mementos. I wanna frame them all and Heidi's like, there's, they're not going on the wall. I'm like, this is art, honey.

This is art. We'll put them next to our portraits in our homes of ourselves. We do have every cover framed. I think you guys should do that. Like I want spreads framed. Like six pages is, every one of these are, that's a lot of BS that we had to make up.

I love that little cap and fan. So I should be in creative writing cause these like, you be on and you just be, you know. I should be on this. Yeah, I don't think people give you enough credit. I always complain about that. That's one of my, I'm chasing credit. I'm gonna give it to you right now.

You went to USC, the whole backstory, I'm happy you told us of the Prince of Malibu, knowing you went to Brazil, you were shooting. I will let you watch that. I wanna watch it. You can watch, I will let you. And then I'll tell you what I think. No, I know you're gonna be like, you can win an Oscar.

It's insane, like it's the work of art. Okay, Spencer, what are you insecure about? Not getting credit. You know, for like, for my level of like energy I put into success, you know, I don't get treated with any credibility, you know, so that's an insecurity in the sense that like, I've worked since 2004 nonstop on reality TV fame and you know, and people are just like, oh, I hate a guy from the hills. That took work, full like, so.

Like I was working. You're like, that's a job. So, you know, that's definitely an insecurity. And, you know, thankfully being a dad created my new focus on just being like the best dad. So it's like, it's less selfish. So no matter what, like I've now transitioned, like I'm kind of like a rap, you know,

like whatever happens with my career and like titles, like now I've already moved on to like, let me build the best superstar child and great human. So like that has been a great energy shift. What I I wish it's a hard balance because I learned so many lessons. But like, should I have had a kid sooner? Did I need to go through everything to be ready to be a parent? So but insecurities.

I know. I think that's a great answer. Do you think being a dad has changed you a lot? I made me now thirsty again, because I'm like, let's get success. And people are like, why are you still trying to be famous? That is where I'm at. I'm not going to go be a banker now. I can't go be Camilla and be a lawyer. Even though Kim's being a lawyer,

I don't have that time for the baby bar. So I am going to be a television star again, going to get a show, I'm gonna produce. That's why I'm now back in the game. I think producing for you. Oh no, it's going down. Yeah. The slate is strong.

So that's the only reason why, like why do you want this again? Cause now it's time. Like I had already, I was living in Santa Barbara at my parents' beach house, I was done. But now, cause I could live like that with just hide and eat tacos and be chill, but I wanna give my son and future family members,

you know, cause he doesn't wanna stop at one. So it's like, I wanna build, you know, solid, you know, cause I grew up with an amazing life. It's too late to be a dentist. Spencer Pratt. I just wanna look to the camera and thank the Daddy Gang. Oh my God, for all the Daddy Gang promo code Daddy, and you get 20% off Pratt Daddy crystals.

You know, I usually go to 15, but since it's Daddy Gang, and I'm Pratt Daddy, that is funny. I was Pratt Daddy before you were, you know, you kinda hijacked the Daddy Gang, but I was like, and I used to literally claim as Snapchat a year as Pratt Daddy, I'd be like, gang, gang, we out here, gang, gang, I was like, I know, you didn't, I know, you're too young.

You can't hijack something you didn't know existed. No, energetically. I'm just kidding. Honestly, thank you so much for coming on. I'm not ending, I'm gonna turn the camera. I'm just kidding. Honestly, thank you so much for coming on. I'm not ending. I'm gonna turn the camera. I'm leaving and Spencer's gonna keep talking. This is the real way the show ends.

Thank you so much. Gotta go, goodbye. So, Clout, Spotify live after room. I'm gonna be live after her show and doing my own live room. Goodbye, Spencer. Thank you so much for coming on Call or Daddy. I really do appreciate it. All right, I'm just gonna stand up.

Dude, you're great. That was great.