Call Her Daddy - Stassi Schroeder: A Proud Basic B*tch (FBF)

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

Get ready for an outrageously good time as Stassi Schroeder joins Call Her Daddy. Once Alex and Stassi start talking, there's no shutting them up. When discussing her outfit of the day for the interview, she confesses to once splurging 40k on a national OOTD holiday. Settling some debates, Stassi shares her take on various trends, determining whether they are basic or not. Aperol Spritzes? GRWM videos? Prepare for an unexpected opinion as she weighs in on Ozempic. Alex and Stassi also take a moment to reflect on Stassi's growth since her time on Vanderpump Rules, reminiscing about some of her most iconic moments. While she appreciates her current drama-free life, Stassi admits missing a little bit of excitement and sometimes tries to stir up some trouble with her husband. Stassi has a revelation that will shake Vanderpump fans to the core - she's not actually a birthday person. She gushes about how she knew her husband was "the one" and gives a glimpse into what her life is truly like without the cameras around. Get ready for a wild ride with Stassi Schroeder on Call Her Daddy! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Finally. We did it. We did it. How's your mic feeling? What do you mean? I can't hear myself.

But you like, is it close enough? Oh, I mean, it's fine. Listen, normally I do it with headphones. So you're, it's a little mind-fucky. So yeah. So I don't feel like I'm doing. a real podcast right now. Should we be doing headphones? No, I look so much better like this. You agree. I used to do headphones and I was like, it's giving like more ogre vibe because

it's just like so, well, I'm like just calling you an ogre because you wear headphones in your podcast. But you know what I'm saying? No, it does. But I feel like I can't, well, I'm not leading this podcast. You are. I can't lead properly if I can hear other things. Oh, okay, like do you have ADHD? You're like, no. I mean, I used to be addicted to Adderall, but I think I was just abusing it. I don't think I actually needed it. No doctor prescribed me at all. I did it myself. I did it. That's fair. I just realized I didn't even introduce you. Stasi Schroeder, welcome to call her daddy. Thank you. I'm so excited. No, like I know everyone says that, but I'm ridiculously excited. And this room is so chic. I'm just so obsessed with the color of this. The way it just

is so good. These used to be orange. And I got them in here and I was like, this needs to immediately change. Like, you don't feel Call Her Daddy vibes from this. What is that noise? a fucking plane what you mean sorry sorry no because there has been something happening with our air conditioner recently that it sounds oh it's like and then i i don't focus okay that's probably i should be wearing headphones how did you pick your outfit today we were just talking about okay wait no i have to tell you this okay because i haven't stressed out this much about a fucking outfit i can't even tell you it was harder to pick an outfit for this right now than it is to like go on tour go on a red carpet fancy outfits because let me explain okay I want to match your vibe you know I'm not here to like

act like I'm going to some fancy gala but you could while you're wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt but Alex not everyone looks as cute as you do in sweatpants as a t-shirt and when you're pregnant and you feel like you look like a beast it's extra hard so like it would have been easier for me to just like really like find a nice dress or outfit that's chic and nice and cool like maybe like you know a little bit businessy i don't know whatever but this these are literally i think this is like 10 dollars from h and um it's good no i'm not kidding these are maternity leggings you walked in and i said i literally didn't notice you were pregnant for a second like i have questions about you being pregnant but i forgot and i'm not just gassing you up like i

think you look pregnant like pregnant women everywhere need to hear that you know what if you see a pregnant woman on the street just be like you didn't even look pregnant like you didn't even like It took me a while to realize that's what we want to hear. It's true. And like the outfit is great because you were worried, like, am I sitting? Like, can you see my belly? First of all, like, let it rock. But also, because you're wearing all black, you can't really see it.

That's what I'm here for. And the chairs are like, also, who gives the fuck? You're pregnant. That's amazing. I know, but I'm not one of those two. I wish I was one of those women like Rihanna that like, you know, wears that has her belly out. I'm like, God, she looks so good. There's so many women that look so great like that.

I've never felt that way. I feel best when I'm in bags. You know. Well, this bag is looking phenomenal today. Thank you. So you're pregnant. How are you feeling? Honestly, I feel really good because this pregnancy isn't during, it feels like it's my first

pregnancy because my first one was during COVID. So I wasn't allowed to leave my house. Got it. You know what I mean? So I'm able to live my life this time around. I'm able to work. I'm able to travel. I'm able to go to restaurants.

You know? You probably didn't have anyone being like super sweet to and like holding the door. No, I never got that experience. I never got, you know, and that is like a right of passage as a pregnant woman to be treated like a fucking queen. Wow. And you didn't get that. No, now I'm getting it.

So I'm just like feeding off of that energy, you know? Okay, I do love that for you because I do, I agree with you. Pregnancy and COVID obviously probably had pros of like, you don't have to leave the house. You can just like. Yeah. So when you did look like a beast, it didn't matter. No one was there. But I'm sure your husband still loved you so much.

He says he did. Oh. Like, we're not divorced yet. So how does he handle you? your pregnancy. Like, what does he like when you're pregnant? I mean, he really is great. Like, I really did luck out with that. But he can't, like, he says that he's like, I give you compliments all the time. I tell you how beautiful you are. I want to have sex with you all the time. I'm always coming after it. I'm like, it doesn't matter. I need to hear those things from other women.

I need to hear I look beautiful from other women. I need the compliments from other women. He tries so hard to make me feel good about myself. And of course, I want my husband to desire me and want me and think I'm beautiful and all of those things. But there's just something about a compliment from another woman that really is what like feeds my soul. That's what keeps me going. No, I get what you're saying. It's like there's a difference between like men objectifying us where like we get it. And like obviously some men also like love when women are pregnant too. No, Bo's like that. So Bo is like I look, I wish I could. I mean, I'm yeah, you talk about sex a lot. Yeah, I don't know. I don't wait. I don't know what this is brain fog. Sorry. Sorry. Brain fog. No, it's a guy. No, he's like, I want to, like, I love your pregnant body. It's so sexy. I love when you change in front of me. I love all this. And I just feel gross. So I'm just like, no. I mean, thank God. Because imagine if I, like, he was somebody who, no, who didn't like a pregnant body. Which that is actually something I've thought about. I've heard women say, like, he really just like wasn't into the pregnancy thing. And in my mind, I'm like, I don't know if I could be with a partner that doesn't at least fucking fake it. But I guess you could probably tell if they fake it.

totally would be able to tell. Like Matt, like my partner, I don't even, I'm not pregnant. And I pray to God, I can get pregnant. But like, if I get pregnant, all he talks about is like, oh my God, like I don't know how I'm going to control myself. And I'm like, what? But see, at least you have that. So like, it doesn't matter what, what side effect, like pregnancy side effects. Like he will still be so into you. But at the same time, it's a burden. Because I don't feel sexual whatsoever at all. That's like I was going to ask you, like, how, do you handle like I think women are great online that talk about their pregnancy but there's a little too much glamorization from what I've heard from some moms of like it's not all fucking

great and sometimes you feel like shit about yourselves and sometimes it's like not the sexiest that you're feeling and so like can you talk about the real shit of like how are you feeling with your sex life oh my god no my sex I literally have zero sex drive but I will say that I am a champion and I take one for the team in my household and I don't let it go like a week and half. Like I will, if I've, if it's like a week and, you know, three days, I'm like, I should probably do this. Like I'm being selfish right now. Poor Mo. No, but I think that's so relatable. And I feel like people don't like to talk about that of like, sometimes you got to just. And it's different if you're like, I'm like, I guess I have to sleep with him. No, no, no. This is your husband. It's

your relationship. Sometimes you're like, I'm aware I have no sex drive. I still love you and I'm attracted you. And I want him to feel good about himself. And it does bond us. It's like, once we do it, I'm like, oh, I'm so glad I did this. I should do this more. Isn't that the worst with sex? You're like, if sometimes you're two in your head or you have no sex drive that month or whatever it is, you're like, I literally can't even get myself there. I know I love him, but like I'm not there.

And then afterwards, you're like, we should do that more. And they're like, fuck you. I know. Fuck you. I literally ask you all the time. I know. Sometimes it just takes like going through the act. Yes, 100%.

Yes. Okay. Do you have like an alter ego when you're pregnant? This is how I think of myself. Um, I, when I'm pregnant, I feel like I'm, I'm Santa. I'm not joking. I just feel like this round, jolly. Like, what is your ego?

He's like, so I'm Santa, through and through, like, don't get, like, for real. Like, I look in the mirror and I'm like, everything's round and I'm just jolly and I'm just, you know, I'm so excited about the baby that, that, that like, and I'm sober. So like, you don't, I don't get depressed that easily when I'm. pregnant. Right, right. You're not like having the up and down of like getting hammered one night waking up like regretting up. You are like the queen of OOTDs. Thank you. I remember literally like back in the day like everyone would start hashtagging it, but you really like owned it. You're like this is my motherfucking outfit of the day. I bought a national holiday. What a waste of money. Yeah. Honestly, that's so cringe. You actually bought it. You have to buy it. You don't just get to

like own holidays for free, Alex. Like how much did it cost? Is this going to be embarrassing? It's so embarrassing. I think it was like $40,000. No, it was, no, it's so embarrassing. And you guys, I would not do it again. Okay, I would never just throw away that money to have a holiday. But at the time, I was like, oh, this is good branding.

I was just in like business mode. My book was coming out. I'm like, I think that this is good branding. So it's like I'm putting money into my career. That's how I felt. But no, I mean. Hold on. What exactly?

That feels like when people buy like a fucking star in the sky. Can't we all just? honestly it's the same fucking thing like what day is it it's it's June 30th okay and it's not like on all of our calendars like Apple didn't upload like so how do we even know you own it like what was the point of buying well so can I tell you something that like you own it for a year and I didn't know that and so the next year came around and they were like all right you got to pay for it again or like the do I think it was just the same amount of money I'm like you're out of your fucking mind And this is a lifetime commitment that you think I'm going to spend this every year.

So now technically, I think on the list, if you were to like search the list, my name isn't even up there anymore. But everyone on Instagram, it's already been hashtagged and all of that. But do you really think you had to buy it? They thought I would. Like honestly, Alex, I like $40,000. I'm so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed.

No, I think it's it actually. I don't care if people come for me because like I deserve to be come for. I agree. But I think it also gives though. little bit of credit to like you really were committed and like you are to be oh i also just can't believe it was 40 000 for a year yeah no a year maybe not the best business decision no but i respect it you loved it you know who i respect the people who came up with this business i those the people who are just who are like you know what i'm going to own a national social media calendar

how does one get the authority and were you just like little miss like googling like how do i get my own day and like I think I asked like my agents or my publicist and I was like how do I find my own holiday and they want one okay well this does go give you credibility why I don't know I just feel like you that gives you some type of credibility like in the fashion world like you're giving like you're you're dedicated first of all the fashion world they don't say OOTD no you're right you are I just literally ostracized myself from the fashion you're like never getting invited to anything 100% but you like fashion I love it yeah Okay. What clothing staple did you use to wear that you would not be caught dead in now? Like what's something that you were like, oh, I fucking love this shit. Now you're like, huh? Statement necklaces. I rode so hard for statement neck. I remember that. But you know what? They will come back again. Not in the way that I wore them before. I mean, like they weighed me down. Like they were, it was like they were battle like to wear into battle like the plates of armor. Like it was it's insane if you look back on like this.

Tanner Bumperl's interviews. I'm like, who, how did I think that that? Like your whole chest. That it was, that was the outfit. But it will come back. That's what like, I was going to ask you, like, what's a trend that you're like so not into? But I don't really care about trends because I'm like, it always comes back. Yeah. It's not an actual trend. It's like this is fashion. And it's just what's in what's not sure, but like it's going to come back. It does. It always comes back. And you know, now I'm to the point, God, I love Gen Z. I really do. I really appreciate them because they have this like anything goes mentality about fashion and clothing that I just really fucking love because I feel like while they do follow trends, they don't. At the same time, it's kind of like

just express yourself and wear what you feel comfortable and what you like. And I've found what I what looks I like. And whether they're dated or not, I kind of don't care. And Gen Z gave me permission. So you know what? I agree with that. Because I feel like back in the day when I was growing up if you didn't have like the double popped ibercrombie polo with like the lace cold and like the denim skirt and the leggings and the you're like you're a loser who were you nobody exactly you were a loser you weren't in the in crowd and so like i remember begging my mom like i know this is so expensive but like this is literally for my social equity like i'm not going to be respected on dress down days if i can't wear this 100% no one actually cares that much anymore no one cares you can get away

with so much and what a glorious time to live in you're right and everyone loves the dupe like everyone's like down for like if it's real actually people like that's like nasty yeah like why are you spending money yeah like why are you buying national holidays like that's but that's giving the same energy wait can i just say this yeah okay so when you were in milan you were there for prodda right yeah i was just talking to my hair and makeup person about this i was like Alex in prada is such a good like mix and vibe and relationship you are such a good prodig girly so like I hope that that like keeps going that keeps going and just like builds into just like something bigger because that was like I would not have thought that me either until I saw your phone up either me they're saucy well because I just

see you just being casual and everything but then I saw you in your looks and I'm like yes I really appreciate that because I will say I was nervous because I too never envisioned like what fashion house would I like jive with the most yeah and when I found the Prada moment it felt so mean I actually felt so comfortable and confident which like I never fucking going into these type events feel confident because I'm like I'm a poser like I don't wear this shit all the time yeah but now Prada I've started to like buy my own shit from Prada and be like I actually feel like if I'm dressing up Prada feels right for me no it does it like it really fit well I loved it This is like a really random fact that I learned on selling sunset.

And I don't know if it's true for every woman, so I need to ask you this. Okay. On selling sunset, there was a woman that's pregnant. And it was her first time being pregnant. Right. And she was asking advice from other moms. And the other mom was like, oh, by the way, girl, like, yeah, you can't shave your V after like a certain amount of time. No, I can't see.

I go rogue. No, literally. Like this morning, I just, I guess. You just guess. I literally feel around. And I'm like, hmm. So you, okay, that's good to know. So, like, you actually can't see it.

but then that woman was like, so I just didn't touch it. I don't, I think it'd be way too itchy for me. And then she was like, or have your man do it. Oh, no, I wouldn't. I don't trust any, no, I don't trust him with a razor. That just does not sound enjoyable. No, you can't see at a certain point. You can't, you just have to feel for it.

Yeah, I can't grow it out. It's way too itchy. Right. Because that's what I was thinking. Like, at least if you're, if you can't see your vagina over the belly, you're at least going to go rogue, but like you'll just, you're not getting it completely bald you're just getting it down to a place where you're comfortable that you're not itchy i mean i try to get it but i try to do is what i try and you're just like you can't see shit i can't see you sit

i mean we've done it for so long that like that's true it's like muscle memory no that's true i do have a lot of women that still write in that are like can you like give us a tutorial on like how to shave and i'm like girls like let's let's not really easy like this show you can come here for a lot of things but like i feel like you can like look it up somewhere and like we don't way to go that. Okay. And if like you're pregnant doing it, like someone with that's not pregnant and you can see that shit, like just take your time. No excuse. Yeah. Okay. You have written two New York Times bestsellers. Congratulations. You little brainiac over there. It is really exciting. When I hear it, when I hear other people say it, I'm like, God. Like, you know, we all suffer

from imposter syndrome. I feel like all of us. Yeah. We all do. It's like, well, you know, I wouldn't have that if I wasn't on the show and blah, blah, blah. And I wouldn't have that if this didn't happen. But like, you know, no, that's really fucking cool. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's. It's, it No, it is really cool. And I think it's also amazing that you've done two now. Well, I'm working on my third right now. Yeah. Wait, how long does it take you to write a book?

A long time. I worked on the proposal six months. Six months I worked. And it wasn't like that for my second book. And like my first book actually came a lot quicker to me. Yeah. Also, this third one, it's harder. Because like I'm really trying to be the way that I write.

it's like I have to be specific about like with one thesis like and then everything spiders from that and I'm just like struggling I was struggling a little bit with what that was so it took me a really long time just to do the proposal well I was going to say like I think there's so many people in Hollywood that have like that one book and they're like peace out I just wanted to say I wrote a book clearly you like really like doing this oh no I love it and that's why I started like for the first one I was like I want it to be a handbook so that if I wanted to keep going the theme could change. So it's always still like a basic bitch handbook to something.

It's just depending on what's going on in my life. It's such a good idea. And so I want to play a game. Okay. So the whole, like. basic bitch handbook. Clearly, first question is, can you help us all decipher? What is the difference or is there a difference between Chugie and basic? Okay. Well, personally, what I think. I think Chugie is kind of cringe. It's like, you know, like cringe clothing or cringe, you know,

things that I don't know. There's a cringe element to Chugi. I personally think that anything that's basic, it's just like leaning in so hard to something that you really love and doing that unapologetically. It's like if you really love rom-coms or if you really love murder docs and just like leaning in and it's like, oh God, you're so basic. But like, but it makes me happy. It brings me joy. It's like leaning into the things that like really bring you joy and not giving a fuck if it's like what's cool. Basic to me kind of is a timeless situation where like basic also means that a lot of people though are doing it and it's just something that kind of is timeless. Yeah. And it's and there's a reason those things are popular like because they feel good or they make you happy or like I don't know

they fucking spark joy so like I'm Santa I love being basic Santa over here you're like I can say it you can't say it Alex okay we're playing a game you're gonna tell me if it's basic or not okay and also you can just give me your thoughts on the topic in itself okay number one apparel sprits are you fucking that's the most basic no it's my favorite drink in the whole world I crave it every day. That's the worst part of pregnancy. The worst part is that I can't have multiple apparel spritzes all day every day. Dude, okay.

I make, Bo make them. So I'm like, I'm going to have three sips. And I literally swish it around my mouth for as long as I can. Spit it out? No, I swallow it. It's like, my baby can handle a few sips of an aboral sprits. But like, I literally swish it and hold it in there. And I'm like, oh, that felt good.

That feels good. That feels good. I love them so much. And I think people consider them. basic, but I think they're great. So that's great. Okay. Get ready with me videos. Oh my God. So I didn't know what this was. And I'm a big TikTok fan. Okay. Okay. And all of a sudden, I just kept seeing G-R-W-M. M everywhere. And I was like, grown woman. I literally was like, what the fuck is everybody writing grown woman? Like, what is this stuff? Because not all get ready with me videos

look the same. They weren't all makeup. Some of them are like picking outfits. So like there was no theme right away and most of the time it's a woman doing it yes so like I thought grown woman was the vibe and like it took me like a few months to realize I feel like that it was get ready with me and this is the thing I tried one I put one out like three weeks ago and how to do on I feel like the kids loved it although I will say everyone was commenting being like wow 2016 no and I'm like Oh, wait. I was trying to do a thing. You know, I was really trying to do a get ready with me. And everyone's like, this is so nostalgic. You do your makeup like it's 2016. But I'm like that's because it works for me. Right, who cares? At least you're not trying to like pretend you're in a generation. You're not. Yeah. Like, you know, putting the like foundation like letting it drop on your face. And like I, I can't, I can't get I can't fuck with that. Like it kills me. Every get ready with me that I see that people are just dropping the liquid on their face. Like I. I. I. I. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I It's so, it's so not appealing. Wait, how do you do it?

I don't do it like, do you drop it on. No, no, no, I don't. I'm just interested. Like, how do you do it? Okay. Well, I take my foundation and I have a tin and I pour some out. And then I use. In your hand?

No, on a tin. Oh, tin. And then I use a brush or a sponge and like a normal fucking person and then do the damn thing. Do you think they're on to something that we don't know though? No. I don't either. I think they're bored. And I think that they're just coming up with new ways to do makeup when like what works

already is there so like I don't get it the fact that you thought that it was grown woman no listen Alex I also got a lot of comments from people being like I thought the same thing so there are lots of millennial women out there who are thinking that it is grown woman I get it I G R WM grown woman how would anyone just automatically know get ready with me what what about G R makes you think grown good point I I like it I think I it's funnier. I think we should start leaning in and be like, grown woman video coming right out, yeah. Okay, Tom, Tom. Basic? Not basic. You know what I'm going to say, but I think it's basic. But like, again, I love things that are basic. But like, you can't get any more basic

than like the, the representation of Vayner Pump rules in bar form. True. Do you go there? I don't really, because I'm asking for attention if I go there. Do you know what I mean? Like, I really love it. And I'll go there if it's someone's birthday. So I'm going to for someone you know what I mean but if I go there everyone's going to take photos and and I'm like no I'm not I get it I get it um ozempic oh my god wait to like I really want to try it when I give birth you're like I want to go on it now but I am pregnant so I'm going to wait no the amount of times I've researched this being like I mean I think it's safe and healthy like I think it's good for you it's like taking vitamins

Stossy I how do we put a disclaimer Like nothing that was said in this podcast Medically please do not listen to this But like come on It's basic Anyone who hears about Ozambic Has to fucking be curious

You are a liar if you tell me That you have not thought about it Thought about jumping on that train I mean not you don't need it I don't mean you But like you should think about it I get what you're saying I think it's this is what I've started to realize

It maybe it's just like with age Like, I remember one of my things on here was bone broth. And I was thinking about all the debate with Gwyneth when everyone was like, you are like promoting bad eating that like for people that's not realistic and whatever. And I'm like, why does everyone care? No, like, she didn't say to only eat bone broth for you. She was just being honest. Would you rather lie?

She's just telling her story. She's literally just, she's trying to be transparent, which is what everybody is asking of people. Please be honest and transparent. So then you can't get mad about what you hear when someone is being transparent or honest. So have I Googled Ozmpic and what it would be like? And am I thinking about it? Yes, I am because you were just talking about bone broth. My first pregnancy, I ate bone broth for dinner for six fucking months after I gave birth.

And I kind of don't feel like doing that again. I love that for you. I'm like, I don't want to quickie. I want an Ozempic. I'm an Ozempic girl, not a bone broth girl anymore. We love that. I love the honesty because that's what I got annoyed where I was like, I think people are really getting too triggered. like Gwyneth wasn't like everyone should do this.

She was asked what she eats in a day. And instead of being like a cheeseburger for dinner and a day, she just told you, you don't have to do it. Yeah, you don't have to do it. I'm like, would you want her to lie to you? And then you're going to wonder like, wait, why don't I look like this when I'm eating a cheeseburger for dinner? Like you, you want to know that it's a struggle for Gwyneth.

I want to know it's a struggle. Me too. And I also love, it's like people need to realize. I know the whole world influencer has really taken over. but like look inward if you're being really heavily influenced by every single influencer on the internet yeah let's totally just a little check yes just a little check in it just be responsible for yourself you're responsible for yourself okay so ozempic ozambi okay so she's going to go on ozempic you're going to tell us how it goes you'll go on it

someone else doesn't have to exactly okay yeah and then you're going to feel how you want to feel and they can feel how they want to feel while they're on the elliptical you're coming You can be like at me now. Do you think you'll be promoting it that like you're on it or you won't talk about it? I would like to to think that I would be somebody that promotes it and talks about it. Because again, I really do. I love when other people are transparent and honest. So I want to be that for other people.

But like, God, people are really hard on that, on things like that. And it's like, do I feel like going through all of the hate that I'm going to get if I'm honest about. it unfortunately you're on caller daddy right now saying you're yeah you know it'll be the worst if if you actually don't go on ozambic and you're like in the gym and they're like that page is on ozambic you're like no guys i'm actually i totally probably just fucked right no matter what they're all either they're like it's not working or it's working and you could have been doing it like organically yeah okay well keep us updated what do you think about manifesting i'm so basic you manifest i manifest the shit out of life i think i've naturally been manifesting my whole life

and just like not know when we were growing up manifesting wasn't a word that we like really yeah the way that we use it now totally but I think that I've always just been that way and I really I really do fucking ride so hard for manifesting because I feel like what works with manifesting is like you just envision that the things that you want are going to happen and then you slowly start working towards those things whether you realize it or not true and like that is manifesting it's like quite simple that's true okay give us an example what's something like big you manifested and like boom it happened my whole entire life i wanted um to live in a spanish style home in the hills okay okay and i when it got to the point where i was looking at at houses like

it just so seamlessly happened and i realized that like wow i had been like planning for this and working towards this and i'd always just said it and then i was like i should have manifested bigger I should have been like a $10 million house, Spanish style house in the Hollywood Hills. Like, why didn't I manifest a yard attached to that house? Like, fuck. I get what you're saying. But like, okay, so you had this vision and now it's come true. Yes, because then I like, I saved the money in order like, I started like, or I would

accept this job and put that money away to like start. Right. Being like, this is going to happen for me. So I need to prepare for it when it does. So kind of like back in the days they would just say like a dream you have. now we have like a better word that's like a little bit more like proactive basic as fuck okay are you watching reality tv shows um well i've just recently started watching vanderpum rules dude were you not watching it no and then you had to catch up and then once um

scan well happened i was like i got to catch up i got i didn't catch up but like i will i've i've seen like the last three episodes so like I've been like I should probably I'm interested I want to see that whole drama I can't imagine how annoying it was for you because like how many people wanted to hear your take on it no you have no idea and in fact like it's interesting that you say that that you can see that that would maybe be annoying like when it happened like it's like one of those things I joke about this that like you know it's like when there's like a natural disaster or a world event and like you never forget where you were that day and like You could be at work or at school and then like you stop what you're doing and like you

you get with your co-workers and you find the nearest fucking TV and then years later you're like I'll never forget who I was with and what we were doing. That's how I feel about fucking Scandaval like truly. I can't imagine. Like what was your take? Well, at first I was just like I don't think that this is real. But then I'm like this is, I start texting the people that I know obviously. And I was like like, like I mean just like I think everyone's the same as everyone's reaction like

holy fuck and then I was like I feel like I'm thrown right back into something that I've been away from yeah for so long but it's it's like is it my place to be a part of it or is it not my place I don't know and then I have all of these people just DMing me I mean I've never been DM'd more about anything than I was about like I'm gonna or commenting and attaching or tagging me and it being like I'm gonna need Stasi to weigh and I'm gonna need Stasi to weigh and I'm like but I don't know if it's my place anymore and I've been out of this for so long that like I think it would be kind of fucking weird if I'm like going on my Instagram being like this is my take on yeah and like it was all it was it's been kind of like a mind fuck which is weird to say because it's not even

happening to me I kind of agree and I that's what when I when I had Ariana on I was like it was actually so weird because the amount of people that were like fuck like we kind of wanted you to have Raquel on and I was like this is why I also hate the internet so much because whenever I have villains on the show everyone's like canceled when i don't have them on then they're pissed but when i have them on they're pissed whatever but did you ever like tom sandibald no i mean no and he never liked me and that's the thing you know i will say this not being on this last season it's like my my talents were wasted because i could have you know this was when i could have really just like given it to him and been like i've always knew right right there's got to be something that everyone

is seeing in him but like he I feel like has always been a slime ball well that's interesting that you say that just because I felt like he was always so beloved and so and I would even I would say to my producers I'm like when is he going to get the edit that like I feel like the rest of us see why does he keep like getting away with being just this dude who just wants to like give people things and help people out man and like all of that I'm like that's not what I'm seeing I'm seeing somebody who's constantly like blaming others for things and dredging things up from the past and like and just deflecting constantly yeah like if like the rest of us look bad then he looks good and right and I've always felt that way and so yeah you know the fact that I'm not

on it this season it's like fuck you know yeah do you miss reality TV I miss reality TV at times like I loved filming I love like that was it was like all my 20s were spent doing that and you know I love the camaraderie of it and I loved all my producers and the team and like like it's fun it's really fun but you know there's something about like being out of it for so long and and i watched that like the success of a show is like directly tied to how badly the cast hurts each other and that like feels weird i agree it's like i think that's something that we're struggling with now is like watching it because there is social media i i feel like people are having a harder time, like actually choosing a villain because it's also weird of like, but then that

person's life is actually ruined on social media and people are getting canceled and people are getting death threats where like back in the day, you kind of like the never saw the people and it was like, whoa, that was a great show. Yeah. Now it's like a little bit like, oh, people have to be really calculated to fuck shit up and like how how far are people going to ruin each other's lives and is it honest? Is it real? Like, I don't know.

Yeah. It just, it's weird. It's dark. Like when you really think about it, it's fucking dark. Right. Like I feel like there's a, I think you have a good life now outside of it. And it's almost better to be nostalgic for it than be still in it and like look what's happening right now. No, I think so too because I think, you know, obviously I get asked all the time like, would you go back to reality TV?

Would you go back to VaynerPumper rolls, all that stuff? And I'm like, I don't, I, you know, there might come a time when I'm like, oh, this makes sense. This type of reality TV. This makes sense for me or whatever. And this is a reflection on what really. my life is like, you know, it might be a little more boring than what you're used to see. Right. But it's at least a little bit more authentic where you're not having to like really create that character again. Yeah. But like I don't think I'd want to put my family in a position

to be in something where like, again, the success is tied to like how much you can hurt each other. And like I just don't, I don't, it's not like a healthy place to be. Like it's not good on relationships. You can be in the strongest relationship. And, and I mean, if you think about it it's like vanderpump rules is like who's betraying who who's cheating on who who's being shady and like sometimes they you know things are invented that like never even happened so to put that stress on a relationship and then if you have children on top of that I'm just not sure that that's like the healthiest thing for me I do miss it no I do I get it like it's almost like reality TV to a certain age should be appropriate because you actually your life

is toxic and chaotic like season one it was like you were so like in the best way unhinged and like saying shit but like I was like that with my boyfriends when I was in my late like early 20s then I think when you get to a certain age it's like you're just fucking your life up yeah for camera yes yeah there is there is there you're is nothing that makes me happier than when I get a compliment from someone and they say, Alex, you smell delicious, okay? I mean, is there anything better than someone telling you you smell good? No. And you want to know what I'm wearing? You already know what I'm wearing. Eve St. Laurent beauty. Okay, let's go. If you are looking for a new statement fragrance,

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She's Hartford's godmother. She was my maid of honor, and I'm still really close with Lala. And honestly the producers, like I'm, I hang out with the producers more than most people like they're some of my closest friends really yeah so it's so weird to like be hanging out with them and we kind of don't talk about it that much yeah you know what I mean like the show part of it but now that like scanamals happen we talk about it a lot more I guess how do you feel about how much hate Tom is getting online um I mean obviously I've been

in a position where I've received so much hate before and like that's I don't like where we're like in society where like that's how we punish people it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like emotionally beheading people yeah you know what I mean and it's and who's to decide what the punishment should be like who who makes someone the authority on that like what makes this person on their computer the authority on on what they think is enough hate for him to receive right I don't get down with that like I really I don't like it like it like Like, do I like Tom Sandoval? No.

Do I think what, like, what he did is disgusting and like, fuck him. But like, I see now I feel like I'm even adding to it like the online vitriol. There's a level of like if you're being asked about it, you can talk about it. And I think everyone with their friends can talk about it. But I do think there's like a level of word just as bad of like people that are going out of their way to comment on his photos or something and be like go fucking kill yourself. You're so disgusting. It's like that. it's like that that that no one like let's let's just like not do that as like a group of people

let's just not you probably didn't say that fully to like even your dad when he cheated on your mom and you guys have a divorced family now like there's so many people that have gone through sadly something very similar like cheating affairs like that and it's awful but like we don't know these people so yes they put their lives out there for us but like at what point is it like talk shit to your friends and your group chat but to actually make an effort to like go wait outside of his house or to go make comments it's like let's and at some yeah and at some point like that is how people become incredibly depressed and then suicidal and it's like how would we all react if we knew that that's how it ended one of yes how what it just it's not right you were obviously

so different back in the day as we all are of like in your early 20s versus where you're sitting now on the show you were probably one of my favorite characters because it was like I was watching a scene this morning I was trying to I was like telling my friend I was going to sit down with you I'm like no you don't understand like no one was more iconic than Stasi like she would go into these like rage blackouts basically that looked like it on screen where you were just like I am the devil motherfucker and like just the shit you said was like so gold and I'm like are you going to ever let your daughter watch the show I can't hide I can't hide it from her forever like so of course I honestly just hope she learns from my mistakes like I hope she's seen

it and cringes and it's like you were fucking awful and like I don't want to talk to you for two weeks and I'm like fair and then she just literally goes you know that just swings her in the opposite direction and she just wants to be this like lovely kind child but like that's fair you know okay how would you describe yourself back then versus now to someone maybe that didn't watch the show didn't know yeah oh my god I mean oh my god I think so incredibly selfish like I still have selfish Like 100% that's always going to be a personality trait. Sorry, it is. But like I really truly thought the world revolved around me.

I thought that everything that I was going through mattered to everyone. I just felt like what I had to say was so important. I was also one of those people that's like, I just tell it like it is. You got to just deal with it. And now that I'm older, like I don't like that about myself. And I think that's such an overrated quality because all you're saying is like you don't care about how your words affect other people. so like sometimes like it's good to just think before you fucking speak you know it's like called

being polite and gracious true like I just like and there are still people that like you know are in that reality TV world that are still like that are just like well I tell like it is I'm honest like if you can't handle the truth then like I'm not for you and I'm like but do you really want to be that way I get what you're saying about like holding yourself back for maybe speaking about certain things but again the environment that you were in like that is what would make you a better person on reality TV. Yeah. No, totally.

It's almost like you were rewarded when you would say crazy shit. I was. Now it's like when you're in private with friends, maybe we don't bring that into real life. But I get what you're saying of watching it back. You're like, why did I say? That's how I feel about when I look back at my, the earlier days of my show. I'm like, why did I say some of that stuff? Yeah.

But that's also life. Yeah, no, that's true. But we just happened to be like recording our lives. Yes. And we were rewarded for it, just like you were rewarded for like things that would come out of your mouth. It's like that's how we're paid. To be.

Totally. to say crazy shit yes what do you miss most about being in your 20s being selfish leaning into it like and like not knowing that it was wrong right you know it's the delusion yeah it's the delusion it's like the not knowing any better and just really living for myself but at the same time it's like I am such a happier person not living for myself yeah like as like fun as it all was to be reckless and selfish like I am so much more at peace and such a happier person now that I'm not like that I get what you're saying like I was thinking about that as I wrote that question today I was thinking like okay I I am 28 but I almost feel like I'm already

30 and I am like my earlier stages of my 20s I feel like I thought I was having so much fun in the toxic relationships and going out and drinking getting fucked up and blacking out and like jokingly waking up and having all my friends in the room and be like, I just ruin my life. And that's also like life. But there is some different level of peace you feel once you get over that hump where like I don't wake up with that anxiety of like what did I say to that person like was I like mean like did I fuck up like did I do something like I don't know. It's like calmer. It's like nicer. I mean there's like a reason that like, you know, elderly people are like my idea of fun is like staying in like watching like down.

Mountain Abbey. It's like because our preferences change as we age. True. And like I agree with that staying in watching downtown abbey is like the most fun you can have. Do you often hang out with elderly folks? I should. Honestly, I should find myself a pack of elderly friends. I was going to say like come over one night and there's like seven people that you just like went and picked up from the elderly home. I mean, I'm always down for granny vibes. I do love granny vibes too. What do you love most? about being in your 30s in my 30s oh my gosh I think that the I've learned that like the power of saying no to things and and not caring about like well is someone can be mad at me if I'm

not going to what they just asked me to do or if I say no to like a facetime or like I don't respond to a text message like I've prioritized as much as like I it's funny that I'm saying this because it sounds like I'm being selfish but I've just prioritized my my happiness and well-being and I know how to do that and not worry about like well so-and-so going to be mad at me if I say no like I'm allowed to say no I'm allowed to say no yeah you are I love that too because there's like I get what you're saying it sounds selfish but there's a different level of maturity of like a freedom that you get instead of feeling like oh my god but it has to be calculated if I don't text them it's because I'm like being mean this is actually I'm not being

mean I'm just there's just things that I don't want to do yeah I'm just kind of busy and I don't want to do that or like I'd like to stay home with my daughter tonight like I just like it's not for me and honestly I don't even owe an explanation no like knows all I have to say what's the difference between Stasi hammered in her 20s versus saucy hammered in her 30s oh my god I miss being hammered how much longer um I'm due the beginning of September that's a wild it's like three fucking months you got this um well I would fully black out in my 20s like I wouldn't remember things and and and I yeah I wouldn't remember what I texted I wouldn't remember what I said it was super emotional now because I have a kid I'm not allowed right I can't

it's unfortunate but I can't let it get too far so like I honestly I feel like I don't have that much of like a personality shift with I drink does that make me an alcoholic maybe but I'm kind of the same as I am right now that's good That's good. Okay. I love that. It's just like you have, you're just having a little bit better time. Yeah. Like I'm just having a better time. That's what it is. I'm just having a better time in my 30s because like I'm not getting obliterated. Right. You're not getting full blackout. That's fair. Speaking of being drunk, you talk a lot about dark passengering. And I think a lot of my fans may not have any idea like what does that mean. Like can you explain what that means. Yeah, 100% I can.

you talk a lot about dark passengering and i think a lot of my fans may not have any idea like what does that mean like can you explain what that means yeah 100% again i mainly did this i did this like all throughout vanner pump rules but like it's became a thing when i started dating beau okay so i would go absolutely psycho on him like i mean breaking phones text seeing him 73 times in a row, yelling, screaming, threatening things, like violence, okay? When I wouldn't get my way. And normally it was because, like, I would want to leave a party early because, like, Granny vibes.

So, like, I'd want to go to bed at like 11. And he's so social. And he would want to stay out later. And I've always had, like, a trigger when it came to that because, like, honestly, I feel validated now because of Scanaval. It's like shady things in that group of friends always happen after hours. I would start freaking out like what is why does he want to be out with my friends and not coming home with me and I would go just insane on him I would I would it was like that's why he would call it

the dark passenger it's like I would literally see red like anger is like the only motion that like overtakes me I see red I can't control it I can't stop myself like that is what the dark passenger used to be but again now looking back um in light of like you know scandavall and that I was right to dark passenger I was not to say as you were describing that I think it's totally understandable if your partner for like one night occasionally is like oh my gosh like no I'm having so much fun with my friends like I want to stay out if your partner every single fucking time you guys go out is always lingering and you're going home alone biggest red flag you know what strange yeah strange so true why why would you want to stay and not come home with me yeah

like what exactly I can't imagine wanting to like I again I get it if like I'm having all my friends are there and my fiancee's like I really want to go home exhausted I'm like fuck but like I'm having so much friend with my girlfriends yeah then I'm going to stay out occasionally but like I don't think I've ever been like I desperately want to stay at this party I'm not single I'm not looking for dick like the dick I have is going home like why don't I want to just go home with them yeah no thank you for validating me so but don't you think for like a lot a lot of people listening to this probably are like, huh, like, I have this a lot with my partner where like they stay out so many more nights than if I'm going home alone or like they're going out without me all the time. Like I guess to each his own, I personally wouldn't be down because I just wouldn't understand like, why would your partner always want to be out without you? No, I completely agree with that and that was always my argument. I'd be like, so thank you. What is it? What is it that you want to be doing? Like, what is more fun than just like going to sleep with me right now? And I also get the trigger of like if you have ever been cheated on or again and that's what would happen like

you know when Kristen and jack's like season two or whenever when like they they did their thing like that that was always like after hours after the party after i had gone home like so so nothing good happens so like it makes me it made me feel so weird when beau would want to just stay out and so that's that's when we put a name to the dark passenger but the dark passenger can really just like it means like anytime you just literally see red and like anger is the only thing and and you you can't reason there's no logic yep I there's I feel like you had a lot of that for like birthday parties yeah let's talk about your birthday because I I want to relate to you here and I can't I want to hear your explanation of like what your birthday means to you oh my god

I'm going to disappoint you so much right now why okay so the first few years of aner pump rules like 100% I was a birthday beast yeah okay I was so obsessed with my birthday I have no idea where it came from you know what I blame the fact that I am a summer like baby and so like I never got to like really have birthday parties there like where all the people could come so like I like made it a much bigger deal as an adult or something but like after the first few seasons of banner pump rules I stopped caring okay I got it out of my system that's great bravo would never let me stop caring probably was like no but like this is this is a bit this is like you are people relate to this this is like you're you are the birthday queen and literally to this day

people when people come up to me like 50% of time they're like um either saying the quote about the devil or like pino grigio and the other 50% of the time it's like thank you for making me feel good about my birthday dude i remember watching it and like to people that didn't watch those seasons like the rage that took over you of like it's my fucking birthday birthday sit down and like be present and I was like I loved watching it but I don't relate to that and so I was like I wanted to hear today I think it's great you're over it yeah so for your birthday now you don't really care no I don't really care um I think I was just always just like channeling main character energy you know like when you when you're when you're trying to have main character

energy you you need to care about your birthday main characters care about the birthdays it's a whole month it's a whole thing yeah and I think like that actually for reality TV worked I think on Instagram it's annoying as fuck when it's like totally is like my birthday month we got to stop 10 days for my birthday I'm like no one gives a fuck it's not count down like no one cares no one cares no one care okay we can we relate on that now okay um do you secretly miss a little bit of drama in your life now you don't that you don't have reality TV yeah sometimes I know I say this to bow a lot actually I'm like you know what we should get in a fight and I should dark passenger because it would just like make me feel so passionate that would probably make me horny I get what I get

you're saying like a little a little bit a little friction no a little bit I remember when we were in Vegas in December actually when I conceived no we were walking past um the sign for absinth have you ever been in that show no oh it's so good is it good yeah it's really good and I was like oh my god but remember the last time we saw absinth like I full blown dark passengered on you and I was like we should do that that'll help us make a baby stop and he thinks I'm insane and he thinks that's so unwell but like I just think that that I think makeup sex is fun I agree agree I think men have like a little bit harder time like playing the role of like we're fighting but like it's not really like and they're like I don't understand like if I am trouble like stop

100% and they get scared like I try to do it with my partner all the time like just light little tinges here and there can be fun yeah not all the time but like a little like I'm like we've been so good let's not be so good let's not be so good let's have to come back I want to miss you I want to be like I want to be scared that I'm going to lose you you know Even though I know I'm not, like, let me just pretend. Let me just pretend. And, like, play with it. I feel like guys can't get there.

No, not. But I kind of, okay, did you ever at one point, like, bring your trust issues in your past into your relationship that, like, it really affected you guys? Yeah. Pass the dark passenger of, like, staying out late. Was there anything else? Yeah, well, we know, we started going to therapy, like really early on on into our relationship because I had all of those freak out moments and I just didn't trust him.

And he didn't understand where it was coming from because he was, he had never given me a reason for me not to trust him and we had to like talk through it and the more like we went to therapy the more than he was like thank you so much for articulating this for communicating this because I understand that must have been really hard to have like this happened to you to have your friend do this to you to have you know other times that I had been cheated on like I get it now and like then we were able to work together but like yeah it really affected our relationship yeah I love that you have openly talked about like couples therapy because I think there's such a stigma of like what's wrong with your relationship and it's like why is everyone you shouldn't have to be going this early right like why because that's when the relationships like you it's make or break honestly and you're coming into the relationship with all your separate baggage so might as well get it like worked out right away I agree okay your relationship you've talked kind of about how like you have very different sex drives with bow and everything give the girlies tips of like how do you keep. things intimate without at times being actually physically intimate like what do you guys do honestly

Alex I need the fucking tips I need the tips I think listen I think that bow and I are really good at quality time like we we we talk to each other like we we spend time together like we we're really good at parenting together like I know that doesn't sound romantic but like when you're aligned in in how you view things like that like when you get into a relationship with someone you get married to someone or you decide to have a child with someone you better really fucking like that person because when you have a kid y'all are in it you're fucking in it 24-7 like and so they're going to be days that are kind of boring and you better really just like being around that person while doing all of the monotonous mundane shit yeah that's such a good point like

i was thinking about you and like having watched some of your relationships very toxic in the past to then like Beau seems like the complete opposite of like stable, normal, romantic, loving, sweet. Like in the beginning, did that freak you out? It didn't freak me out, but I made it. What I did with him is like I made a choice. Like I was aware of the fact that I was changing my habits. Like everyone that I've dated in the past, it was kind of all the same like exciting and like passionate right from the beginning, like just feeling like, you know that.

feeling, which like ends up being toxic, honestly. 100%. And so Bo was kind of everything different. You know what I mean? He was different than anything that I had dated before. And I went about it. Both of us did really slowly. And we casually dated and we dated other people.

And we just really got to know each other. Yeah. And I think that that's like what made this relationship so solid is that like we trusted each other. There was like constant communication, constant like getting to know each other. other. But it didn't know nothing about him scared me because I knew that I was doing everything different. Yeah. I kind of also had, I mean, I think a lot of people do. You have those like toxic relationships. But I think at some point, people always write in asking like, when will I be ready to like,

how will I know when to not go for the toxic? You just kind of know. You know when you're done. Yeah. You totally will. Like there's a feeling of like I don't want to deal with it anymore. And I think that there's like something like really overrated about the like love at first sight thing. I still have friends that like, you know, are single and will ask me like, well, what should I do? I'm like, well, you write someone off if you don't feel that in love feeling that excitement right away. But like, that's kind of overrated. And like we don't know people right away. So how real is that feeling? Right. It's like there's a difference between going on a first date and actually like, vibing and being like, there's definitely something here. Yeah, obviously you have

to have attraction and you have to vibe. Yeah. But the feeling of like the butterflies, but also like anxious and like he's not texting and like waiting and like playing the games and like being so calculated and like ball like that shouldn't be happening because that's like unhealthy yeah like that's not enjoyable exactly but i think when you are doing that for so long you can get into this rhythm of then normal feels boring and i think it's like i got to a point where i'm like actually toxic became so boring to me i completely fucking agree toxic is boring is boring because it's so transparent of like and then we're going to fight and then he's not going to text me and then I'm going to not text him and then we're going to get a fight and then we're going to have this crazy

sex and then I'm going to feel insecure and then like and then it's just like this and you're never able to be like I feel really happy today on this nice Wednesday like you don't have that yes and not just I get it I won't say to anyone in their early 20s or in their teens right now like you got to go through it yeah you do have to go through it and I'll say like it is fun to go through it once or twice totally but it would just be nice like if you can if you start to feel like you're getting fed up with it you have you have to also change your ways yes like that's just okay um how did you know beau was the one because i could completely be myself honestly like i felt like there was i never had to watch what i said or what i did or i never felt insecure in that way

like i felt like he loved everything about me and he but not just loved it he would like champion yeah like he was so into just like me being a basic bitch that's like so not a dude thing to to do to be like yeah you go with like your basic bitch self you know like he was just like really accepting and a cheerleader and I think that's what I realize like I really want that for myself totally totally no that's so cute like obviously I only get to watch your life like slightly through Instagram but you guys look like so happy thank you and it's just like really cool to see like again I literally sitting down with you the best the best version of like a whole person I knew was from season one two and three and like watching those seasons I love that part of you

but it's also cool to sit down with you and like get to know you as like a mom and a partner and like just I don't know it's like you're you seem great thank you seem like you like got it together I know I feel like I got it together like I think I do I think so you're on tour yeah And Kate went to one of your shows. And she was like, it is so crazy. Like she sells out everywhere. You are just like so personable and outgoing and everyone loves you. And like all of your fans are amazing.

And she was like, they're like the nicest girls in a room just like loving life being so happy to be there. Do you like touring? I love it. That was like the one thing when COVID happened that I was like, if I can do anything ever again, like please let it be touring. Like I really love it. I just love the whole process of it. not just like creatively putting together.

It's like challenging. It's like fully challenging myself to do something that's so uncomfortable. Like putting together like a set like where it's like I'm not a stand-up comedian, but like I have to be for a second. Of course. I have to act kind of and then write something for myself, then deliver it and hope that people find it interesting. Right.

And then put together segments and and, you know, just I just love the creative process of it. And then I also like the whole traveling aspect of it, you know? Like I love going to different places and seeing smaller. towns and meeting people from different places and checking into hotels. I don't know. I just, I really, I love touring. I give you so much credit because I don't think people know how hard it is. It is fucking ridiculous how hard it is.

How long is your show? An hour and a half? To have acts and yourself and everyone entertaining people for an hour and a half life. No, it's like when you think about it, like I'll always like when I'm watching everyone leave the theater, like I'm in my car and I'm like, all these people like spent their money to come here like they got babysitters they took ubers like they they came here so like if i didn't deliver like that's i'm letting them down you know what i mean it's not like they can just they're at home flipping on a television show it's like they went out of their way like and i appreciate

that so much that they put in that effort to come see me so like the pressure is is is is on it's there but i get nervous to go on stage now or no um there are when i know people in the audience and so How many cities do you do? I think we're doing like 25, I think. But we're over halfway done. I think the hardest part now I've realized this is, and when I do this again, I'll plan it differently. Yeah.

I can't be gone like six days at a time. I miss Hartford too much. Like, so those last two shows, like I, I kind of just like end up not caring because I'm feeling down. Wanting to go to your dog home. I just want to go home and like be a mom. And so like I've realized that I think that the next time around it'll be like, okay, like three days.

Yeah. then a weekend home like three days then a week do you get exhausted by being pregnant and touring at all no okay let me tell you something this is going to sound extra alcoholicy okay it's okay because like I haven't sounded alcoholicy enough this one time time but I was way more low energy and tired the first two tours that I did before COVID because we would like drink and have fun you know I mean like we'd have like Bloody Mary's on the plane and like drink rosé while we're getting ready and drink backstage and have apparel sprits on stage and I just

felt tired because of that. Now, I think I have the most energy out of everyone that I'm traveling with because I'm sober. We know, I actually so get that. Like, you would just keep drink. I would do the same thing. Yeah, you just keep going. Oh, that's so smart. So now I'm sober. So I feel like, I feel sharp. I feel just way more alert and with it and quicker. And yeah, sobriety really suits me. It's just not fun. You're like, I know it's for the best for me, but like the minute I have my child, I'm back on my she. 100%.

I'm getting an apparel sprits brought to my fucking room right after I deliver. I don't know. Bo literally brought me. He made spicy margaritas in the hospital for me and he's going to do that again.

The fact that you said you swish around an apparel sprits and just hold it there. I feel like that's what I'm going to have to do if I ever get pregnant. Yeah. Or like a really good red wine. Like I'll like I'll have a little bit of red wine

every now and then. Like my doctor literally says it's fine to like have some few cents. right everyone calm down half a glass it's fine yeah yeah yeah like i'll leave it in my mouth like literally it feels like for three and a half minutes because you just the taste i miss the taste i get it so much what is like coming up in your life so you're writing a book you're having a kid i actually love how i didn't even have to ask you you're writing a book you're having a kid and you're on tour yes you're kind of thriving then i have two podcasts so like

dude how do you do two podcasts i mean when you the other ones with with with bow so like it's easy for us to just like make time to do it so it feels it doesn't feel like it's as much yeah as much it's still a lot let's have you back home on your hammers oh no sweet but that would be so fun then we really can't air it let's get toastie that would be fun to do one next time we like actually get fucked up yeah and like see what comes out of our mouths no Alex this was like one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done was it fun this was so fun I'm so happy you came because I had an idea we would be vibing we I also feel like we never shut the fuck up do we have one breath of silence where we were like I haven't even heard the room tone since we started.

But I guess that's a good podcast, right? Or everyone's going to be like, you guys are so fucking annoying. Yeah, you guys are annoying. You guys keep talking over each other. I don't think we were talking over each other. No, we were two professionals. Yeah. We like, right as you were finishing, I would pick up.

Yeah. I think we had a good time. No, this was, I'm not joking. This was one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done. Like, I really just had a really great time. I had a great time and I felt like I really could just relax and we had like a normal fun conversation that was just happened to be filmed for millions of people to watch. Yes.

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