Call Her Daddy - The 5 Year Anniversary of CHD
Episode Date: October 8, 2023Join Father Cooper to celebrate the 5 year anniversary of Call Her Daddy. Alex takes us back to the moment she first decided to create Call Her Daddy and reflects on the business lessons she learned e...arly on in her career. She speaks about her relationship with the Daddy Gang and her first ever Daddy Gang interaction. She reminisces on the trouble exploiting her dating life would sometimes cause and tells a hilarious story involving the podcast, Slim Shady and The Canadian. She gets sentimental about what Call Her Daddy means to her and shares what she’s looking forward to in Season 4. Come hangout with Big Al to take a little trip down memory lane.
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welcome back to another sunday session i'm sitting in my studio with these amazing people
that i work with who i also consider my close friends and I was you know just sitting
here and I was like I should record a Sunday what should it be about and they both just look at me
with the most sinister look on their face and they go oh we know what it's gonna be about I don't
know what what's happening okay well first I'm going to talk about tour because it's like my
pride and joy and my little baby so if you guys didn't know we're going on fucking tour daddy gang
I can't believe I can finally say that this has been a long time coming in my life
I've known this but you guys have now only know this for a few days. I'm so excited
We're starting in Boston, which feels very sentimental to me and that's where I went to college that's basically where
call her daddy in my personal life began because that's where I really started finessing and then
we're going to Toronto shout out to Toronto I didn't realize how big the Canadian audiences
of the daddy gang you guys sold out those tickets so fucking fast I was like well fuck like maybe
we should have
done a couple nights in Canada and then we're going to New York, Philly, Chicago and ending
in Nashville I'm really excited about this tour I think something that I have been thinking about
is like aside from doing Call Her Daddy I always want to like do things in a way that no one will
expect you know so I don't want to give too much away about the tour. But what I will say is it's not going to be me just like podcasting, you know?
I'm not just going to be like, welcome back to another live episode and then just talk.
There's going to be a lot of things happening.
By now, I announced that it is going to be bachelorette themed.
So it's going to be my bachelorette party with you guys in all these different cities.
And we're going to have a couple famous friends of the show showing up also Lauren McMullen will be there throwing my bachelorette
party which I mean I I'm expecting Lauren to come out at this point in like a dildo suit like I'm
like what she's gonna go so crazy with it so I'm just so excited and I can't wait if you guys got
your tickets November is gonna be fucking insane
my therapist literally was like do you want me to come to the New York show I'm like yes that way I
can at least have like one night that I feel like mentally stable because I can I'm gonna be like
tell me where your seat is so I can just look at my therapist the whole time I'm performing no but
I'm excited I I just am nervous because I she was like well what's your biggest fear like what like
is it stage fright is it like what is it and I literally just said I just want them to have the best time I don't know
and she's like okay so what if you fuck up like just say fuck daddy gang I fucked up like just
like do like they're your friends at this point I'm like okay when you isn't it that funny when
your therapist says something back to you you're like okay please keep your comments to yourself because now i feel like a fucking idiot anyways um yeah
i'm excited and it's gonna be great okay now what the fuck is happening you little shits
what what what is that what is that do you almost just fall in her face oh my god what happy birthday
wait what is this wait is it the five-year anniversary today
october 3rd isn't that so weird that that's also like the mean girls
thing we october 3rd oh my god that's when the first episode was released, huh?
Five years of Call Her Daddy.
It's like I have a five-year-old.
Oh my God.
A very wise five-year-old. what is this okay you guys i was just handed cards for an episode i don't even know what
this says on it it says hey big al hello whoever wrote this i know i didn't i didn't hey big al
congrats on five years of call her daddy everyone here at team call her daddy couldn't be more
proud of you and it is so amazing to watch
you continue to grow on a daily basis but as always this isn't about you oh i'm like about
to start crying and then i'm like wait what do you mean it's about the daddy gang the people who
really matter true so we have compiled a list of questions for you to reflect on and share with the daddy gang
in honor of the five-year anniversary of call her daddy guys i'm gonna get emotional number one
take us back to the moment where you officially decided you wanted to start call her daddy
oh my god whoa that feels like a lifetime. The moment I officially decided I wanted to start
call her daddy. Okay. So I was broke and I had no job. So I needed a job. No, I was living in
New York in the Lower East Side. And I remember at that time I was like vlogging and I I it pains me when I see those vlogs but it pains
me in a good way I'm like oh like I was trying so hard to just like get my career up and going
and I remember I knew this person who worked in like media that I kind of met like randomly in
New York and they were like you should start a podcast and I was just like I don't like it's
just not for me like that's literally what my dad listens to like who the fuck listens to podcasts like in my generation like no one cares
about podcasts it was like the Logan Paul days like all those vloggers were just so huge um like
Alyssa Violet like it was just like I would just sit in my little room and watch them and be like
I want to be a YouTuber but I felt like it was just too oversaturated and everyone who was going to be a vlogger made it and was a vlogger so I was like
you know what maybe a podcast is the move but the sad thing was also like it would also be like
cheaper to make at the time because like I didn't have a budget I remember um going to my roommate
at the time and I was like I know you have a full-time job but like
would you want to start a podcast with me and it was in the Lower East Side in our apartment that
I remember just being like should should we do this like should we start Call Her Daddy and that
is when it happened and then once we decided yes we just like went and recorded episode one and
never looked back number two can you recall your first ever interaction with Daddy Gang?
Oh, I think it was like in a Duane Reade.
I was on my period and I was like craving cookie crisp cereal.
Do you guys like know that?
It shouldn't be called a cereal.
It's like literally like all sugar.
Anyways, I was going to get my healthy cereal from this little deli super close to my apartment
at the time and
I remember a girl in there like buying chips and we just made this really at the time I thought
awkward but like beautiful eye contact where she was just like and I was like oh like hey like I
again like I had never had this in my life and we just made eye contact and what I didn't
know is that would be the beginning of like thousands and thousands of moments where I just
made eye contact with someone and it's like daddy gang right it began the unspoken thing that
everyone in my life to this day is still always so fascinated by like whenever I meet any of you
I always get from whoever I'm with like oh my god
like how do you know them and I'm like no they're daddy gang like because it feels like probably
like oh my god that must be like an old time friend from like high school like where do you
guys know each other from but it's just that like weird beautiful connection of like we don't even
need to say anything so yeah it was in a deli getting
my cookie crisp and I met a girl and she just I fucked me and I fucked her back and oh wait no I
fucked her back I I I fucked her back but I will say I wouldn't have this career if it wasn't for
all of you so as much as you guys when I meet you I appreciate it so much when you guys are like
thank you for doing it I'm like thank you for listening because this is not just me it's you guys that
make the show go around so thank you what's a difficult business lesson you learned early on
in your career I mean I need to think of something other than like fight for your IP
oh there's so many things I feel like I learned And I feel like I learned it in the span of like a couple months, which was weird. I think the first is like, nobody actually
has your best interest except for yourself. When people are giving you advice, unless it's actually
your family, which I will say to my family, but like actual people in business with you, like
everyone's looking out for themselves as they should. of course we're all trying to like do our thing but I think I realized early on like everyone has different
opinions of what they're going to want to do or what you should do so I think it's like
in the quiet moments I really had to like find within myself like what do I want out of all this
tell us about a time when a guy confronted you for being mentioned on the
podcast oh my god no you guys this is my favorite story ever when i was living in new york i was
doing everything for the plot like everything was for the plot like everything at this point was
like i think it's in by like episode like 40 or something it's like oh my god at this point i'm
just going to like on dates to get content and I like because I just want to tell you guys like what are men like I had broken up with Slim Shady so long like almost like a year and a half
prior and we match on Raya imagine me matching with your ex on a dating app the way my relationship
with this ex ended was so tumultuous like his agent literally tweeted that he was single to
like end it so like we didn't so we couldn't go back and forth but his agent tweets like I'm single I'm married to baseball and we become
single a year and a half later we match on a dating app and there was so much animosity like
our families hated each other whatever and I don't know what it was but it was so hot that
we matched on this dating app and it was like I remember he messaged me and was like hey and I was
like like hey and we proceeded to have a conversation acting like we didn't know
each other I'm like so what do you do for a living and he's like I'm like I work in like
neuroscience or something he's a fucking baseball player oh my god no way like I'm a painter like
we were we were like role-playing fucking each with each other and then we're like maybe we
should go on a date like acting like we didn't know each other we start fucking again we both
know like this is tumultuous our families know each other we start fucking again we both know like
this is tumultuous our families hate each other we'll never be together but like let's just do it
and like say fuck it so we start fucking again and now I have the podcast because I didn't have
the podcast when I was first dating Slim Shady and I was not gonna cut off my roster like I was
stacked thick at the time do you guys remember the Canadian he was this hot hockey player that I was stacked thick at the time do you guys remember the Canadian he was this hot hockey player that I was hooking up with whenever he would come into town and I liked him and he's a
Leo I'm a Leo I had never dated a Leo which was very interesting so this hockey player is so
fucking hot great dick great sex and I remember I am on the podcast talking about how I am torn
because I'm gonna get on a plane on Friday to go see
Slim Shady because he was in California but I wanted to see the Canadian on Thursday because
he was coming in for a game to play the Rangers and I just talk about it on Call Her Daddy I'm
like and honestly like oh the hockey player dick is bigger and it's better and like but like I also
like there's this weird thing with Slim Shady where I like still kind of want to fuck him because it's
like that hot like toxic ex thing we release our episode on Wednesday and I'm getting my hair done
okay I'm getting my hair done I have my head in the washer thing and I get a call from him
Slim Shady and I'm like what is this I still have the voicemail to this day
you guys have to listen to it after this it's fucking crazy he sounds like he's been crying
and he's mortified and he's furious and he's gonna kill me my entire family and he's like
um you you better call me back right now I just listened to your episode. Really? The Canadian dick before you come
see me. Don't bother getting on that plane. If you don't call me back, like I'm done with this
and I'm done with you. So I proceed to have a mental breakdown for like the next two hours in
the hair salon, talking to my like hairstylist at the time, Angelo. I'm like, Angelo, what do I do?
And he's like, babe, calm down. Like that dick is always going to be there. Just like tell him to
like chill. I'm like, it's not chill chill like this is on a national podcast where people are like
literally at this point know who he is like this is embarrassing for him and it was just at the
point where like I had no sense of like I didn't care about these guys so it was like if you ditch
me like you ditch me guys it was a long process because I was getting extension so I'm there for
like five fucking hours so the next three hours I start doing damage control and I'm texting him like baby like it's not like that like that I
just made that up for the plot for the for the podcast meanwhile I was like so fucking real
meanwhile I'm this high texting Canadian like what hotel are you staying at like let me know when I
should come over but I'm like Slim Shady like it's just not like that babe like we are like
we're back like it's gonna be amazing like I want to get on that plane whatever blah blah blah and I proceed to work my way around for three hours via text and he finally is like
fine but if you get on that plane like I better have your full attention when you're here and um
I went and I got on the plane and I saw the Canadian the night before and then the next week
I talked about how I did it all and blah blah and then he was like I fucking
hate you but he still invited me back over and over and we ended up having like sex for a couple
uh months until his mommy found out and she said no no no and then we were I was like okay well
the fact that you're 30 years old and your mom dictates your dating life like why don't you go
fuck her so that was the end the podcast I will say with dating was a motherfucker and in the beginning
it was fun and then I did go through a period I'll be honest where like dating and having a
podcast and and talking as explicitly as I was it was definitely difficult like it but in in a way
and I don't know if this is healthy but like I think it helped the the age that I was at where
like the podcast always came first.
Of course, a couple of times I was like, fuck, maybe I shouldn't have said that.
Like, I remember I would get texts from my mom on Wednesday morning being like,
ooh, send me the screenshots today of what they say to you because damn, you went in on him.
And I'm like, fuck.
Like, and I would always schedule my therapy sessions for Wednesday because I was like,
repent and then just do it again um it was it was a wild time and I will say when I met Matt I've already I've said this to you
guys before is how I knew he was the one it's like I was willing to like find a better balance
instead of just like ruining men's lives on the podcast but it was fun when you think back what
is your I made it moment? Oh, God.
For me, I made it was more when I was like, oh, I know how to like do this podcast and
produce it confidently.
Like that was my I made it internally of like not stressing out every single week being
like, how do I do this?
How do I entertain people?
Like, what do I do?
What do I do?
I think the made it moment of like publicly, I guess, is when. Well, one, I do remember the early Barstool days was fun when showing up to the office and like finally having some fucking respect on my name.
Like first when we showed up, it was like, who are these fucking whores?
Like they're just going to like ruin this company.
Like we don't need this like drama in this company.
And I remember Dave just being like, did I make a bad decision?
Like, who are these girls?
Like, what the fuck are they doing?
And it was so fun to like go into a company that was like at the time so male dominated
and just like sling it better than the rest of them of like going on live radio and walking
in.
I will never forget OG Daddy Gang.
I will never.
This is how crazy it was.
At the time, barstool of all these men.
It was like, how do we reverse a role so insane
i remember going on live radio dave's on live radio we walk into the live radio session and
we're like oh just so you all know we can tell every single person's dick size in this office
without even taking your pants off we're on sirius xm live radio and we're like yeah roan he has a
pencil dick caleb has a short show but like knows how to use it like we're just rattling shit off um
and it was that was a moment where I think it just started to like we were just leaning into
the brand and it was so fun and then I think at one point I could tell people in the office did
start to respect like the numbers and the growth and like at one point like the show was making like so much
for barcelona it was just a cool moment to feel the culture shift in the company of people stop
looking at us like what are these bitches talking about like oh like what can we learn from call her
daddy that was cool to like have a company that i respected respect me back and then i guess the
other one is like my spotify deal i think that was like a very surreal moment for me because when I started Call Her Daddy on my own, I was nervous.
Like I can sit here and be like confident Alex Cooper being like, oh, like I knew I didn't know exactly what I was going to do.
And like I had a lot of really scary moments in my house during COVID with my parents just being like, like, do I need a co co-host like I will never forget the first episode I had to do on my own I just
went down in my parents basement and I recorded for like a couple hours and then I was like
here we go like they're either gonna love it or they're gonna hate it and I appreciate you guys
so much because it has been like a lot of different creative decisions that I've made and you guys
have always stuck by me but just so you guys know like every time I'm making something I just sit in
my room and I'm like what does the daddy gang want and half the time I'm like what do I want
because I feel like I'm a part of the daddy gang like I'm also like a young girl just trying to
figure my life out and um so I think the Spotify deal was cool almost for women in media.
Like it was a big moment for me to realize like, oh, this deal is going to inspire so many other women to be like, yeah, you don't need to have a dick to get a big deal or to get respect on your name.
And I was just so happy that Call Her daddy was like that brand that signified that.
And it's cool to have met other people, not even just creators, like people in business
and seeing women come up to me, just being like, that just gave me so much confidence
to know, like, I can do that too. what's a bts moment from an episode where something almost went terribly wrong that the daddy gang doesn't
know about oh my god I would say the episode that I didn't release it was this male actor
and he begged to come on call her daddy well his team did and they're like please like we need this
for him like he needs to come on and I'm like like, dope. Like, okay. Like love that for us. Like I didn't expect him to want to come on Call Her Daddy.
And I remember her showing up to the studio and I could just, I just got like immediate
weird vibes from him.
Like very stuck up, like very, just like couldn't even make eye contact with me at first.
Just like too cool for school.
And I was like, okay.
And like, I asked his team multiple times prior like hey
because I was like at this point I'm like I don't believe this guy actually wants to come on like
just to confirm this guy's down to talk about like sex and relationships and stuff like we good and
they're like yes and so he sits down and he literally sits like this and he's just like
what's up and I'm like hello welcome to call her daddy and he's like yeah and I'm like how are you doing
today he's like this is like my seventh podcast of the day and I'm like okay I'm like well let's
have fun and he was just not about it and I was so uncomfortable and I just felt so awkward and I can usually talk to a wall but this wall was
giving nothing it was paint dry to the worst extent and also just kind of being like a dick
to me I'm like bro I don't want to be here either if you're going to act like this and I always just
think like is the daddy gang seem like why did you release this so I ended up trying to make it as
fun as possible and when he left he his team was like that was amazing and I'm like what the fuck and so I sent an email just being like I'm not
releasing that and I got I got so much pressure and backlash and threats of like well this is who
else we rep they'll never come on your show if you don't air it and I was like I don't care like
that's just not fair to do to me
to like one put something out that the daddy gang's gonna be like was there a gun to your head
like where's the gun like hostage situation like from one to ten like where are we at girl like
you guys would have known something was off and so I was just like I'm not releasing it and
they were so rude and insane and insistent trying to use their power over me and I was just like
and I remember I got calls from so many different teams being like you should just release it and i
was like no because i'm also not going to give him fucking hype for being an asshole to me and
to the daddy gang so it's weird sometimes to see some celebrities come in my favorite is when you're
like they're so famous that i'm like i totally understand if they're like a little standoffish and they come in my house and they're like, hi, it's so nice to meet you. Like so respectful to
everyone. Like anyone that's like editing or camera or anyone in my office, they're so lovely
too. And I'm just like, wait, you don't even need to be that nice. Episode that comes to mind if
someone needs a good laugh. Oh my gosh.ry jowlsey episode like you i remember
i saw alex earl uh the other month and we were talking and she was like i was just listening to
the harry jowlsey episode like i've met him before and he's funny but like i didn't realize how funny
he is and the two of you together is like crack like what the fuck harry and i have this thing
which is so funny we don't hang out we do not hang out we do not text we do
not see each other and we have this like almost unsaid thing where it's like save it for the
podcast and we do this yearly thing now that we've almost created as a tradition and like
there's something about his energy we even say it we're like I've seen him on podcasts and he's seen
me podcast with people and we're never like that with other people there's just something that
happens so I would say any Harry Jousey episode is chef's kiss fabulous first episode that comes to mind if someone needs
the strength to leave something toxic oh daddy gang I just recorded something
that is gonna probably come out in one to two weeks and it's like a full toxic what is the word it's like a yeah it's
like a master class and like it's boot camp it is a boot camp on how to get out of the toxic and how
to recognize the toxic and when to know to leave the toxic and also though when to know like the
toxic's fun but only at a certain point in your life so we'll look for that it's gonna be labeled something toxic and it's gonna be a solo
and i think it's i think it's gonna be pretty empowering first episode that comes to mind if
someone wants to feel a little horny oh my god um oh my god i mean i remember back in the day
there are some episodes where I quite literally was
doing like porn erotica of just like and then you take his dick out and you take his throbbing
hard pulsing and it's just like what the fuck and like thinking of like my parents listening to that
I'm like I will never recover um damn it was that was audio porn What are you most proud of with Call Her Daddy?
I would say the Daddy Gang.
Not in my wildest dreams when I started this did I ever think I would have essentially this extended family like it's as corny as it sounds like I am so fucking grateful to every single
person that listens and watches and I like I definitely care so much to the point where
you guys are a topic of conversation and therapy every week like it's it's a really
intimate relationship that we have and I don't think a lot of shows have
that and I can't explain the amount of times I've met you guys on the street and you've told me
about like this episode helped me get out of this abusive relationship or this episode made me know
that it was time to like leave this job that I wasn't happy with or this episode maybe finally
have my first orgasm and actually be able to like lean in and embrace my sexuality like there's just so many different
phases I feel like of life that we've gone through together in these past five years that I wouldn't
take back for anything I wouldn't take back the original call her daddy days when I had a co-host
and we had those amazing episodes together I wouldn't take any of that back like I think as I continue to
grow I look back on those days honestly and I'm like that was so fun and that like that's why I
am here today like I can't discredit any era of Call Her Daddy like it makes me emotional when
I think about it and I think obviously when I'm in things I'm sure I've said shit where I'm like
why did I say that or like it's just growing up and looking at every year I feel like the show has grown
and I feel like I've stayed as authentic as I possibly can with it and I think
it's difficult I'm not gonna lie like being in media and and trying to keep your sanity and trying to stay like honest and talk about
things that you know will be relatable in your life but then also like thinking of a brand and
the growth like there's so many things that go on but I think you guys have been the people that
have kept me like in meetings when people are asking me to do certain things for brand deals
or this and this like there's a reason I'm I'm not on
my Instagram like holding up products and doing these things it's because it's like all I care
about is this show full stop and I think probably my agent hates me and my publicist hate me in
moments because like please just do this one thing do this and it's like no if it's not going to
benefit call her daddy in the daddy gang then I'm not going to fucking do it. And so that's why I'm going on tour.
Like, I can't wait to be in a room with all of you and like get to laugh with you guys as cheesy as it sounds and get to like touch you.
Not inappropriately, but just like touch you and hug you.
And like, it's something that means a lot to me is to like as long as we're good
I'm good and that I think speaks a lot to this show and this community that we've built and
I feel like that's also why it's exciting like in growing working with other creators for the
like unwell network like these people that I'm working with Alex Alex Earl, Madeline Argy, those are two people that care
so fucking much about what they're doing and their audience and their connection. And
it's not common. Like, trust me, I've met a lot of people in this industry that it's like,
I'm trying to get that bag and like get the fuck out and like mail it in. And I think it's really
exciting to now surround myself with even more people and creators that love what they do as much as I do and genuinely care about what they're putting out into the world.
Okay, last question.
Oh, guys, this is like emotional.
What is a goal you have set for Call Her Daddy for season four?
Oh, my God.
Where do I begin?
My whole team, we're all sitting here like we haven't slept in how many days
Aaron's like I always turn to um this person Aaron on my team who I love and you probably
always hear his giggle in the back of Asron Aaron Asron um he's always he's the man with the camera
and you probably hear his giggle behind the scenes all the time and I I've always said to Aaron, I'm like, no, like Aaron, like it's going to calm down soon.
And he's like, you've literally said that since you hired me.
Like we've been saying this for months.
I guess a year now, right?
Girl.
Girl.
Sheds a tear.
No, it's a motherfucking grind and I wouldn't have it any other way I am out of my fucking mind
half the time like I don't even know my right and my left and my up from my down um and putting out
this amount of content like the amount of time and energy and effort that all of us on this team put
into these episodes it's like it's a lot but it's
the best job in the world honestly i'm so fucking grateful it's not lost on me that this is the
biggest blessing and the coolest fucking like i'm gonna look back on this one day and be like bitch
you better have soaked it all fucking in because this shit is there is nothing like what we are
all doing here today and just talking to you guys like i love you all and i
couldn't imagine doing it without and i know we have new people here some oldies jordanian
downstairs wherever she is um i love you all and i love you daddy gang so season four
even when i'm like it's only gonna get bigger and it's gonna get better it's just more thoughtful
it's just every week just being consistent. I
think there's one thing that you can always say about Call Her Daddy is like, yeah, sometimes
we're taking risks, but it's also just like, I'm, there's no, there's no moment where you can say
like, wow, that shit was like thrown together or like that felt really, that didn't feel like
there was a lot of effort that went into that like we're we're
constantly just trying to make sure that you guys are entertained each week and so thank you for
watching season four I can't list you the things that I want to do for season four because we will
be here for five hours it's like on my vision board at home Matt's like okay let's eat dinner
I'm like but one more thing for season four what if we did this and he's like Alex shut the fuck
up it's all I do i eat sleep breathe call
her daddy and to know that it's been five years as much as it feels like just yesterday it also
feels like a long time of a lot of work daddy gang if you're like i said if you're gonna come
see me on tour i can't wait to party with you guys like the fact that i'm literally throwing
a bachelorette party live on stage it's like of course like what would I be
without you guys and I just want to be very clear because you know you guys are very passionate
and you really let me know in those dms like what you're thinking and it makes me cry sometimes I'm
like okay go easier um I see you I see you want me to come to LA to Miami to Austin to Arizona to Edmonton like there's all these
different places you the UK everyone's like where's the fucking Europe tour hello and I'm
like okay I was just happy to see you guys bought tickets I didn't know how this was gonna go so
I'll see how it goes let's see if I can actually speak on stage like watch I have stage fright and
I have to just like I I'm gonna have to see how it goes but what I will say is if it goes let's see if I can actually speak on stage like watch I have stage fright and I have
to just like I I'm gonna have to see how it goes but what I will say is if it goes well this is
definitely not the last I see you there was only obviously so I wanted to do it small because I
wanted to be thoughtful and I wanted to make sure that like it's done right and so like let me get
my feet wet and then if it goes well LA I see you and all the other places um maybe we will back be back out
on the road but also the people that can't make it it's not like you're getting neglected like
you're gonna be getting full caller daddy episodes like i'm not this is the thing maybe i won't be
sleeping you know but you are gonna be full and happy okay you're gonna be getting caller daddy
episodes every week even when i'm on tour you'll be getting some behind the scenes daddy gang i love you so much five fucking years and so many more to go
i love you thank you for supporting me and thank you guys for coming up with this idea and getting
me this cake this is so fucking cute you're gonna make me fucking cry now here we go um
i love you guys i will see you fuckers this Wednesday goodbye