Calm Parenting Podcast - A Life-Changing Script for Kids With Negative Self-Talk (Forgetful, ADHD) #459
Episode Date: March 18, 2025A Life-Changing Script for Kids With Negative Self-Talk (Forgetful, ADHD) #459 Do you have kids who react angrily, lash out, or have a meltdown when you correct them or remind them to do something? Do...es your child struggle with short-term memory or forgetting things? Do you have a child who beats himself and says things like, “I am so stupid!”? It can be painful to watch this and hear the negative self-talk. Kirk provides a script and action steps that can completely change how your child sees himself or herself…and how you see them. This is a podcast to share with other parents. Our Black Friday in March Sale Ends This Weekend! Visit https://celebratecalm.com/black-friday/ to get the lowest prices of the year and hundreds of practical strategies that really work with your strong-willed kids. AG1 AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3 & K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. Go to https://drinkag1.com/calm HAPPY MAMMOTH Get 15% off on your entire first order at https://HappyMammoth.com with the code CALM at checkout. ONE SKIN Go to https://oneskin.co and use code KIRK at checkout for an exclusive 15% off your first purchase. COZY EARTH Wrap yourself and your kids in Cozy Earth luxury…with 40% OFF! Visit https://cozyearth.com/ and use my exclusive 40% off code CALM. HUNGRYROOT Get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to https://hungryroot.com/ and use code CALM. IXL LEARNING Get an exclusive 20% off an IXL membership when you sign up today at https://IXL.com/KIRK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How many of you have kids who will react angrily or lash out when you correct them or even just
remind them of something simple they have to do. Do you have a child
who beats himself or herself up saying things like, I'm so stupid. I know this can be painful to watch.
So that is what we're going to discuss on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast. So welcome.
This is Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. And you can find us in the final few days of our
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this, and I'm sure many of you can relate. Hey, if I say, hey bud, you forgot your lunchbox again
today. You need to try to remember it next time. It will cause my son to pitch a 20 minute crying
fit, calling himself an idiot, dumb, bad kid. I would never talk to him that way.
And listening to him do it to himself is painful.
And I know this is hard.
And the mom didn't do anything wrong,
but it just won't work with our intense,
highly sensitive kids.
So let's dig into why this went downhill,
what we can say and do differently next time,
and some ways to use this to teach your kids
new skills for the future.
And I just wanna say, when I was working on this today,
I had this feeling of like,
oh, this is a good foundational one.
This is a podcast I would share with other parents.
Well, you can judge that later
if you think it's as good as I think it's going to be,
but I think it honestly could be very life-changing
for your kids and for your family.
So it's important to get inside the head
and the heart of our kids.
And that can mean strong will kids,
neurodivergent, ADHD, ASD, highly sensitive kids.
These are kids who often feel
like they're swimming upstream in life. They
feel like everything is kind of stacked against them. They have a lot of energy, but they
get in trouble if they can't sit still at school. Fidgeting actually helps them process
information and think better, but they get in trouble for that. They get along better
with little kids, animals, and older people, but are forced to try to
connect with the kids that they are least likely to get along with for the first 18
years of their life.
They often feel left out.
They're not naturally good at the kid world.
So it feels like every look, it feels like everyone is trying to fix them or correct
their behavior and it's unrelenting. So they begin internalizing that there is something wrong
with them, with their very nature.
And they do have some natural weaknesses.
One of them is short-term memory.
They're often forgetful and disorganized.
Now here's the hard part.
School success is largely dependent on having good short-term memory.
Although life success is not, right?
Because in school you have to memorize
and remember information for timed tests.
Again, something you don't have to do later in life.
And this short-term memory struggles
will impact reading comprehension.
Sometimes too many characters with odd names in a book
can get jumbled in their brains and they tend to have these really busy brains. They're kind of
animated and energized by larger ideas, not little facts they don't care about. It kind of feels like
socks tumbling in a dryer. And this creates anxiety.
Anxiety is caused by unknowns,
which is why they try to control situations
in other people.
We've been through this,
why they put acorns in their pockets.
It's why they sometimes cheat
or change the rules of the game
because that guarantees or controls the outcome of the game
because losing means I'm a loser.
It's why transitions and changes in plans cause so much distress.
So their number one job in life as a kid is what? To do well in school.
It's what all the adults care about.
They get report cards and yet success and yet success is based on doing things.
They are not naturally good at doing.
Sitting still in class, listening to someone talk about things they're not interested in,
memorizing information for a time test, writing about topics they find stupid,
and it's made worse if they have dysgraphia or difficulty with fine motor skills.
These are independent kids whose number one value is their own agency
and independence and success requires them to follow directions, to wait in line, to not talk
and 15 other things that they're just not good at doing. So sometimes their entire childhood
feels like every adult is reminding them to do something they're not good at doing.
So there's your backdrop.
So when mom innocently and even thoughtfully,
kindfully added a simple reminder,
hey, you forgot your lunchbox again today,
you need to try to remember it next time,
what she is saying is, hey, I don't want you to get to school
and then be hungry at lunchtime because I love you. I'm not lecturing you
I'm not mad or angry at you. I just love you and want you to have your lunch today
That's what mom wants her son to hear but this is what our kids feel inside
I know I know I'm not good at this and you just reminded me again
That I stink at this and don't know how to get better at it.
I beat myself up for this all the time. It's just one more reminder that there's something wrong with
me, that I'm deficient and less than others and everyone is always watching me fail and reminding
me of it. So that is why you get that reaction, that internal implosion. And I can
understand that. Maybe you can as well. I feel that at times when I'm put in situations in which
I feel helpless or overwhelmed and I want to scream, I'm not good at this. Why are you only
focusing on the things that I'm not good at
and then watching me in my helplessness?
It hurts, it's painful.
Feels like way too much work
to actually be good at certain things.
Now here's one more analogy.
Let's say you're a project manager, engineer,
or kind of a left brain person,
and every day your boss pops his or her head into your office and reminds you of your lack of creativity.
Hey, remember, I need you to be someone you're not
and be good at things you'll never actually master.
And by the way, your grade or in this case,
your performance review and paycheck are dependent on that.
You'd feel defeated, you'd wanna scream,
but that's not my core competency.
Why do you keep bringing that up?
You knew when you hired me, that wasn't my skill set.
You'd wanna quit and find a new job,
but our kids are kinda stuck in this hopeless job
for 12 years.
So with that as the backdrop,
how can we handle this differently? And again,
there's no blame and no guilt moms and dads. You're doing the best you can. It's just that
these kids are so different. Number one, to be clear, I would not say, hey, you need to
try to remember it next time. That's what triggers the negative self-talk. It's the
embarrassment that comes along with it. Knowing he's not naturally good at remembering those things. He already
knows that and this feels kind of like rubbing it in. Number two, normalize this.
Normalize that he isn't good at remembering things like his lunchbox. And
I love, love, love this language. Of course you forget little things like your lunchbox.
Why would a boy your age even think about things
you don't care about or that don't really matter to you?
You should have your mind on other things
like video games, playing with your friends,
eating junk from the pantry
and leaving food wrappers laying around.
Now I did that one so you kind of say this with a smile.
Normalize childhood.
This is what boys and girls your kid's age should do.
And I think it's proper context.
Sometimes we expect kids to act like mature 35 year olds.
Look, we're adults.
We get paid to care about stuff we don't care about.
We have responsibilities for other people, spouse and kids.
So we have to manage the details
because that's called being responsible.
But kids should have their heads in the cloud a bit, right?
Wondering when they're going to get to play
and skip rocks or eat ice cream or gorge on screens.
I'm not saying you should let them do those things,
but they should be thinking of those things.
Teens and tweens are going to be consumed with friendships
and distracted by thoughts of boys and girls
because they've got hormones raging
and social media is not helping any of that.
But here's the more important response I want to focus on.
And I do think with the right context, this can be life changing for your kids.
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Think what it would mean to your child if you said this. Of course you forget little
things like your lunchbox. That's because you have this strategic brain that is always
focused on bigger thoughts and ideas. You get energized by
how things work. That's why you tinker with machines and gears trying to figure
out how it all fits together and works. You are processing ideas because that's
what you care about. That's what innovators and inventors do. They spend
their brain power thinking of ideas that change the world or make money.
Look, you've been able to see patterns in things
since you were little.
You just start putting puzzles together
and we were amazed by it.
You didn't even need to read the directions
when you got new Lego building sets.
You'd even mix and match pieces and create your own sets.
So you'll probably always struggle
with remembering little details and that's how it
should be. Your brain should be focused on solving problems. You're focused on the right things,
Matthew. Now, when I was writing and saying that, I could feel myself inside kind of crying a little
bit. Why? Because our kids have never had someone tell them the truth and this is the truth
Instead what they have heard in subtle ways is yeah
That's really sweet and cute that he likes to play with Legos and has all these
fanciful ideas and daydreams
But he really needs to be buttoned up and focus and remember his lunchbox
How will he be like me one day if he doesn't?
Now there's no blame or guilt, but sometimes we get so wrapped up in what we think kids
are supposed to be doing or comparing them to other kids and subordinating their individuality
to just this general thing of like, well, all kids are supposed to do this,
that we don't step back and really see our kids as they are.
So we're not done yet.
I'm gonna add more, but let's break this down.
I want you to give your kids proper context like this.
Nothing I said above is untrue.
It's all true and put in proper context.
Now you need to fill in the blank for your own
child with specifics. Specifics really help because when you say something like,
oh you've always been able to see patterns in things since you were little, you just start
putting puzzles together and we were amazed by it, that will resonate deeply within your kids
because it, look, that is truth with a capital T.
That is the real them.
You're seeing them for who they are
and they will think back to those days
when they put those puzzles together
and they'll begin to see themselves differently.
So really put some thought into this.
Is your child really creative?
Then notice that, and no creative people
usually struggle with short-term memory and details,
but they have so many different advantages in life,
and I want you to really call that out.
Continually reinforce this for your kids
because society and schools are gonna beat your kids down
and they're gonna try to get them to be like everybody else
and they can't, everybody's trying to change their nature
instead of working with it.
Hey, of course you struggle in this area
because your brain and heart are focused
on more important
things. It's kind of like knocking Einstein because he would wander aimlessly across the
Princeton University campus. It's like knocking Michelangelo. You know what, you're not really
good at accounting. It's like knocking Tom Brady because he isn't good with doing electrical work in the home. Although he probably is good at that.
So everyone has strengths and weaknesses.
Society just tends to only point out
what our kids are not good at doing.
No one points out that life success
is dependent on good critical
and think good strategic thinking skills.
See, that's what companies pay money for.
But that's for another podcast episode.
Now number three, now we can transition to giving your child tools
to help with the natural weaknesses.
But it's not the only or primary focus.
See, when I say I don't like some of these diagnosis and the labels, I'm not denying that our kids
have weaknesses. They do. But instead of just defining them by their weakness, I
want to define them by their strengths and then gives them them practical ways
to overcome some of their weaknesses. So now, and look you don't have to say all
of this
in one sitting with your child.
I throw out scripts and you can do them
in small little pieces.
I like planting seeds.
So one thing that you can say with your child is,
hey, so let's come up with some ideas
you'll be able to use for the rest of your life
to remember things.
So you can use that awesome brain of yours
to solve problems, to create, to invent things,
to come up with business ideas.
You're not denying that your child has challenges
and weaknesses, you're not excusing them.
You're just putting them in proper context
and then giving your child tools
to mitigate some of the weaknesses. And you could, look, you can definitely challenge your child tools to mitigate some of the weaknesses.
And you could, look, you can definitely challenge your child.
Hey, why don't you think of some creative ways
to help you remember your lunchbox?
So here's some ideas.
Let's have your son be responsible
for packing his or her own lunch.
You can help make some things,
but your child has to put it together.
If possible, just let him make his own sandwich
and put stuff together,
because then he's more likely to remember it.
Show him how to put little Post-It notes on his backpack
as a reminder to grab his lunchbox
before he runs out the door.
I do this every single day.
I do not want to waste brain power
trying to remember little things.
I would rather have my head thinking about ideas
like this podcast.
That brings me joy and satisfaction and meaning,
and hopefully it helps you.
So I send myself emails that I will see very clearly as a
reminder in the morning and now I snooze them so I see them in the afternoon. I have some that come
up every night at 6 p.m. some at every night at 8 p.m. so I notice that before I go to bed and that
way I don't have to waste brain power like okay remember that remember that remember that.
and that way I don't have to really spring brain power like okay remember that remember that remember that I
Leave little notes by the front door or underneath my car keys because that way I know I'm going to see it if we're going hiking or in a trip the next day
We've got this little cooler
And I'll leave that or a couple oranges on the floor by the front door on the kitchen counter as a visual reminder.
That way I have to trip over these things to not see them. The night before
I'll often lay out my clothes and put things on top of the clothes or even in
the pockets ahead of time knowing I am susceptible to having 15 different thoughts racing
through my brain in the morning while I'm in the shower
and then I get out.
And I know my weaknesses and I plan for them,
but I don't spend all day thinking,
oh, I'm so terrible at that.
I'm like, no, I'm terrible at that.
And I know it.
So here's what I do about that.
Teach your kids how to start doing this.
Definitely start with showing
him how to leave notes. My guess is that since he isn't being bugged about this, it
will free his creative brain to come up with some creative or even weird ways to
remind himself about these things that you and I would have never even thought
of because our kids will sometimes use technology or it might be, Hey Alexa, remind me tomorrow morning at 7 22 a.m. to
take my lunchbox.
See, that would be a great one.
Now when your child does this well, notice it.
Hey, nice job with that.
Hey, I like how creative your solution is.
I mean, heck, I would just put the lunch.
Here's what just put the lunchbox in the car
the night before, as long as it doesn't need
to be refrigerated, unless you live where we are
and don't have a garage,
then you've got your refrigeration, right?
It's not like I haven't done that one before.
Then whatever, see, whatever I didn't wanna forget
is already in the car,
and I don't have to think about it all night.
I always volunteer, look, when we go hiking,
I always take my car, why?
Because when we're switching stuff out of the cars,
I don't wanna miss some of my gear.
So when they do that, well, notice it,
hey, you're doing a really good job with that.
Now, when they mess up, no big deal.
Hey, been doing really well for that.
So we just hop back on the bus, not a big deal.
Non-verbals are also very helpful. You could always just hand him the lunchbox
without saying a word and just keep walking by so you don't draw any attention to it.
When he messes up, my first question would not be, what happened? Or why did you forget it? It would
be, so what were you thinking about instead? Anything interesting?
Again, you were putting this in proper context. I would let your kids listen to our programs like
the Strong Willed Child one, Stopping the Power Struggles Strong Willed Child, the ADHD University
one, because this is how their brains work and they will feel so good about themselves and they'll
get new ideas
to help themselves throughout life. I get emails all the time from parents are like,
oh my daughter listened to you say, oh it's not about managing your time, it's about managing
your energy and she said everybody's always talked to me about managing my time and I'm not good at it, but I get this energy thing because I hyper-focus and I do.
See, let your kids listen because it's about their brains
and your kids are so smart.
They will really take ownership.
Okay, let's do this now.
Begin making some notes, including specific examples
of your child using his or her natural gifts and strengths
so we can begin providing proper context
and building their confidence and do this routinely.
These scripts and affirmation and context
will change how your child views himself or herself
and how you see them.
See, if you say these things routinely,
man, it will change things.
And we as parents have no qualms
about continually reminding our kids
of things they're doing wrong.
Why don't we reverse that?
Do that for the next week.
Here's your challenge.
For the next week, notice everything that they're doing well.
Begin calling out their different gifts.
Many of your kids do see patterns.
By the way, chess, checkers, arguing with you.
They know the pattern because they know
what you're gonna say before you say it.
It makes them really good at sales and persuasion as well
because they can see the pattern in that argument.
Let's start reminding them of their gifts. That'll change them inside. It'll change how
grandparents and teachers and others see your child. Okay, I'm going to keep this short because
I think this script and approach can be incredibly powerful. All right, moms, dads, grandparents,
this is your challenge for the next week. I can't wait for you to do this.
Even if your kids are really young
and they don't fully understand,
begin speaking the words to them, over them,
in front of them, to grandparents,
to the preschool teacher to say,
oh, man, here's, you can't believe
what is going on in my son's brain.
And they will hear that instead of just saying like,
well, struggles with focus and attention
and it has a lot of energy.
No, here's what I know about my child.
See that builds their confidence.
You're setting the tone and changing how everyone sees them.
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