Calm Parenting Podcast - A Life-Changing Script for Kids With Negative Self-Talk (Forgetful, ADHD) #459

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

A Life-Changing Script for Kids With Negative Self-Talk (Forgetful, ADHD) #459 Do you have kids who react angrily, lash out, or have a meltdown when you correct them or remind them to do something? Do...es your child struggle with short-term memory or forgetting things? Do you have a child who beats himself and says things like, “I am so stupid!”? It can be painful to watch this and hear the negative self-talk. Kirk provides a script and action steps that can completely change how your child sees himself or herself…and how you see them. This is a podcast to share with other parents.  Our Black Friday in March Sale Ends This Weekend! Visit https://celebratecalm.com/black-friday/ to get the lowest prices of the year and hundreds of practical strategies that really work with your strong-willed kids. AG1 AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3 & K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. Go to https://drinkag1.com/calm HAPPY MAMMOTH Get 15% off on your entire first order at https://HappyMammoth.com with the code CALM at checkout.  ONE SKIN Go to https://oneskin.co and use code KIRK at checkout for an exclusive 15% off your first purchase. COZY EARTH Wrap yourself and your kids in Cozy Earth luxury…with 40% OFF! Visit https://cozyearth.com/ and use my exclusive 40% off code CALM.  HUNGRYROOT Get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to https://hungryroot.com/ and use code CALM. IXL LEARNING Get an exclusive 20% off an IXL membership when you sign up today at https://IXL.com/KIRK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:25 who beats himself or herself up saying things like, I'm so stupid. I know this can be painful to watch. So that is what we're going to discuss on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast. So welcome. This is Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. And you can find us in the final few days of our Black Friday sale in March at CelebrateCalm.com for new listeners. We did this because our audience has grown a lot since the holidays and we wanted you to have an opportunity to take advantage of our lowest prices on our downloadable programs. Plus it's fun and it's our company. We do whatever we want. We decided it. We're just like your kids. So this podcast was prompted by a mom who said this, and I'm sure many of you can relate. Hey, if I say, hey bud, you forgot your lunchbox again
Starting point is 00:03:11 today. You need to try to remember it next time. It will cause my son to pitch a 20 minute crying fit, calling himself an idiot, dumb, bad kid. I would never talk to him that way. And listening to him do it to himself is painful. And I know this is hard. And the mom didn't do anything wrong, but it just won't work with our intense, highly sensitive kids. So let's dig into why this went downhill,
Starting point is 00:03:43 what we can say and do differently next time, and some ways to use this to teach your kids new skills for the future. And I just wanna say, when I was working on this today, I had this feeling of like, oh, this is a good foundational one. This is a podcast I would share with other parents. Well, you can judge that later
Starting point is 00:04:04 if you think it's as good as I think it's going to be, but I think it honestly could be very life-changing for your kids and for your family. So it's important to get inside the head and the heart of our kids. And that can mean strong will kids, neurodivergent, ADHD, ASD, highly sensitive kids. These are kids who often feel
Starting point is 00:04:23 like they're swimming upstream in life. They feel like everything is kind of stacked against them. They have a lot of energy, but they get in trouble if they can't sit still at school. Fidgeting actually helps them process information and think better, but they get in trouble for that. They get along better with little kids, animals, and older people, but are forced to try to connect with the kids that they are least likely to get along with for the first 18 years of their life. They often feel left out.
Starting point is 00:04:52 They're not naturally good at the kid world. So it feels like every look, it feels like everyone is trying to fix them or correct their behavior and it's unrelenting. So they begin internalizing that there is something wrong with them, with their very nature. And they do have some natural weaknesses. One of them is short-term memory. They're often forgetful and disorganized. Now here's the hard part.
Starting point is 00:05:20 School success is largely dependent on having good short-term memory. Although life success is not, right? Because in school you have to memorize and remember information for timed tests. Again, something you don't have to do later in life. And this short-term memory struggles will impact reading comprehension. Sometimes too many characters with odd names in a book
Starting point is 00:05:47 can get jumbled in their brains and they tend to have these really busy brains. They're kind of animated and energized by larger ideas, not little facts they don't care about. It kind of feels like socks tumbling in a dryer. And this creates anxiety. Anxiety is caused by unknowns, which is why they try to control situations in other people. We've been through this, why they put acorns in their pockets.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's why they sometimes cheat or change the rules of the game because that guarantees or controls the outcome of the game because losing means I'm a loser. It's why transitions and changes in plans cause so much distress. So their number one job in life as a kid is what? To do well in school. It's what all the adults care about. They get report cards and yet success and yet success is based on doing things.
Starting point is 00:06:43 They are not naturally good at doing. Sitting still in class, listening to someone talk about things they're not interested in, memorizing information for a time test, writing about topics they find stupid, and it's made worse if they have dysgraphia or difficulty with fine motor skills. These are independent kids whose number one value is their own agency and independence and success requires them to follow directions, to wait in line, to not talk and 15 other things that they're just not good at doing. So sometimes their entire childhood feels like every adult is reminding them to do something they're not good at doing.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So there's your backdrop. So when mom innocently and even thoughtfully, kindfully added a simple reminder, hey, you forgot your lunchbox again today, you need to try to remember it next time, what she is saying is, hey, I don't want you to get to school and then be hungry at lunchtime because I love you. I'm not lecturing you I'm not mad or angry at you. I just love you and want you to have your lunch today
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's what mom wants her son to hear but this is what our kids feel inside I know I know I'm not good at this and you just reminded me again That I stink at this and don't know how to get better at it. I beat myself up for this all the time. It's just one more reminder that there's something wrong with me, that I'm deficient and less than others and everyone is always watching me fail and reminding me of it. So that is why you get that reaction, that internal implosion. And I can understand that. Maybe you can as well. I feel that at times when I'm put in situations in which I feel helpless or overwhelmed and I want to scream, I'm not good at this. Why are you only
Starting point is 00:08:42 focusing on the things that I'm not good at and then watching me in my helplessness? It hurts, it's painful. Feels like way too much work to actually be good at certain things. Now here's one more analogy. Let's say you're a project manager, engineer, or kind of a left brain person,
Starting point is 00:09:02 and every day your boss pops his or her head into your office and reminds you of your lack of creativity. Hey, remember, I need you to be someone you're not and be good at things you'll never actually master. And by the way, your grade or in this case, your performance review and paycheck are dependent on that. You'd feel defeated, you'd wanna scream, but that's not my core competency. Why do you keep bringing that up?
Starting point is 00:09:31 You knew when you hired me, that wasn't my skill set. You'd wanna quit and find a new job, but our kids are kinda stuck in this hopeless job for 12 years. So with that as the backdrop, how can we handle this differently? And again, there's no blame and no guilt moms and dads. You're doing the best you can. It's just that these kids are so different. Number one, to be clear, I would not say, hey, you need to
Starting point is 00:09:57 try to remember it next time. That's what triggers the negative self-talk. It's the embarrassment that comes along with it. Knowing he's not naturally good at remembering those things. He already knows that and this feels kind of like rubbing it in. Number two, normalize this. Normalize that he isn't good at remembering things like his lunchbox. And I love, love, love this language. Of course you forget little things like your lunchbox. Why would a boy your age even think about things you don't care about or that don't really matter to you? You should have your mind on other things
Starting point is 00:10:36 like video games, playing with your friends, eating junk from the pantry and leaving food wrappers laying around. Now I did that one so you kind of say this with a smile. Normalize childhood. This is what boys and girls your kid's age should do. And I think it's proper context. Sometimes we expect kids to act like mature 35 year olds.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Look, we're adults. We get paid to care about stuff we don't care about. We have responsibilities for other people, spouse and kids. So we have to manage the details because that's called being responsible. But kids should have their heads in the cloud a bit, right? Wondering when they're going to get to play and skip rocks or eat ice cream or gorge on screens.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I'm not saying you should let them do those things, but they should be thinking of those things. Teens and tweens are going to be consumed with friendships and distracted by thoughts of boys and girls because they've got hormones raging and social media is not helping any of that. But here's the more important response I want to focus on. And I do think with the right context, this can be life changing for your kids.
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Starting point is 00:14:05 best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas and more. Be sure to tell them the CALM guy sent you. Think what it would mean to your child if you said this. Of course you forget little things like your lunchbox. That's because you have this strategic brain that is always focused on bigger thoughts and ideas. You get energized by how things work. That's why you tinker with machines and gears trying to figure out how it all fits together and works. You are processing ideas because that's what you care about. That's what innovators and inventors do. They spend their brain power thinking of ideas that change the world or make money.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Look, you've been able to see patterns in things since you were little. You just start putting puzzles together and we were amazed by it. You didn't even need to read the directions when you got new Lego building sets. You'd even mix and match pieces and create your own sets. So you'll probably always struggle
Starting point is 00:15:03 with remembering little details and that's how it should be. Your brain should be focused on solving problems. You're focused on the right things, Matthew. Now, when I was writing and saying that, I could feel myself inside kind of crying a little bit. Why? Because our kids have never had someone tell them the truth and this is the truth Instead what they have heard in subtle ways is yeah That's really sweet and cute that he likes to play with Legos and has all these fanciful ideas and daydreams But he really needs to be buttoned up and focus and remember his lunchbox
Starting point is 00:15:43 How will he be like me one day if he doesn't? Now there's no blame or guilt, but sometimes we get so wrapped up in what we think kids are supposed to be doing or comparing them to other kids and subordinating their individuality to just this general thing of like, well, all kids are supposed to do this, that we don't step back and really see our kids as they are. So we're not done yet. I'm gonna add more, but let's break this down. I want you to give your kids proper context like this.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Nothing I said above is untrue. It's all true and put in proper context. Now you need to fill in the blank for your own child with specifics. Specifics really help because when you say something like, oh you've always been able to see patterns in things since you were little, you just start putting puzzles together and we were amazed by it, that will resonate deeply within your kids because it, look, that is truth with a capital T. That is the real them.
Starting point is 00:16:53 You're seeing them for who they are and they will think back to those days when they put those puzzles together and they'll begin to see themselves differently. So really put some thought into this. Is your child really creative? Then notice that, and no creative people usually struggle with short-term memory and details,
Starting point is 00:17:17 but they have so many different advantages in life, and I want you to really call that out. Continually reinforce this for your kids because society and schools are gonna beat your kids down and they're gonna try to get them to be like everybody else and they can't, everybody's trying to change their nature instead of working with it. Hey, of course you struggle in this area
Starting point is 00:17:42 because your brain and heart are focused on more important things. It's kind of like knocking Einstein because he would wander aimlessly across the Princeton University campus. It's like knocking Michelangelo. You know what, you're not really good at accounting. It's like knocking Tom Brady because he isn't good with doing electrical work in the home. Although he probably is good at that. So everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Society just tends to only point out what our kids are not good at doing.
Starting point is 00:18:17 No one points out that life success is dependent on good critical and think good strategic thinking skills. See, that's what companies pay money for. But that's for another podcast episode. Now number three, now we can transition to giving your child tools to help with the natural weaknesses. But it's not the only or primary focus.
Starting point is 00:18:43 See, when I say I don't like some of these diagnosis and the labels, I'm not denying that our kids have weaknesses. They do. But instead of just defining them by their weakness, I want to define them by their strengths and then gives them them practical ways to overcome some of their weaknesses. So now, and look you don't have to say all of this in one sitting with your child. I throw out scripts and you can do them in small little pieces.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I like planting seeds. So one thing that you can say with your child is, hey, so let's come up with some ideas you'll be able to use for the rest of your life to remember things. So you can use that awesome brain of yours to solve problems, to create, to invent things, to come up with business ideas.
Starting point is 00:19:31 You're not denying that your child has challenges and weaknesses, you're not excusing them. You're just putting them in proper context and then giving your child tools to mitigate some of the weaknesses. And you could, look, you can definitely challenge your child tools to mitigate some of the weaknesses. And you could, look, you can definitely challenge your child. Hey, why don't you think of some creative ways to help you remember your lunchbox?
Starting point is 00:19:55 So here's some ideas. Let's have your son be responsible for packing his or her own lunch. You can help make some things, but your child has to put it together. If possible, just let him make his own sandwich and put stuff together, because then he's more likely to remember it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Show him how to put little Post-It notes on his backpack as a reminder to grab his lunchbox before he runs out the door. I do this every single day. I do not want to waste brain power trying to remember little things. I would rather have my head thinking about ideas like this podcast.
Starting point is 00:20:37 That brings me joy and satisfaction and meaning, and hopefully it helps you. So I send myself emails that I will see very clearly as a reminder in the morning and now I snooze them so I see them in the afternoon. I have some that come up every night at 6 p.m. some at every night at 8 p.m. so I notice that before I go to bed and that way I don't have to waste brain power like okay remember that remember that remember that. and that way I don't have to really spring brain power like okay remember that remember that remember that I Leave little notes by the front door or underneath my car keys because that way I know I'm going to see it if we're going hiking or in a trip the next day
Starting point is 00:21:15 We've got this little cooler And I'll leave that or a couple oranges on the floor by the front door on the kitchen counter as a visual reminder. That way I have to trip over these things to not see them. The night before I'll often lay out my clothes and put things on top of the clothes or even in the pockets ahead of time knowing I am susceptible to having 15 different thoughts racing through my brain in the morning while I'm in the shower and then I get out. And I know my weaknesses and I plan for them,
Starting point is 00:21:51 but I don't spend all day thinking, oh, I'm so terrible at that. I'm like, no, I'm terrible at that. And I know it. So here's what I do about that. Teach your kids how to start doing this. Definitely start with showing him how to leave notes. My guess is that since he isn't being bugged about this, it
Starting point is 00:22:11 will free his creative brain to come up with some creative or even weird ways to remind himself about these things that you and I would have never even thought of because our kids will sometimes use technology or it might be, Hey Alexa, remind me tomorrow morning at 7 22 a.m. to take my lunchbox. See, that would be a great one. Now when your child does this well, notice it. Hey, nice job with that. Hey, I like how creative your solution is.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I mean, heck, I would just put the lunch. Here's what just put the lunchbox in the car the night before, as long as it doesn't need to be refrigerated, unless you live where we are and don't have a garage, then you've got your refrigeration, right? It's not like I haven't done that one before. Then whatever, see, whatever I didn't wanna forget
Starting point is 00:22:59 is already in the car, and I don't have to think about it all night. I always volunteer, look, when we go hiking, I always take my car, why? Because when we're switching stuff out of the cars, I don't wanna miss some of my gear. So when they do that, well, notice it, hey, you're doing a really good job with that.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Now, when they mess up, no big deal. Hey, been doing really well for that. So we just hop back on the bus, not a big deal. Non-verbals are also very helpful. You could always just hand him the lunchbox without saying a word and just keep walking by so you don't draw any attention to it. When he messes up, my first question would not be, what happened? Or why did you forget it? It would be, so what were you thinking about instead? Anything interesting? Again, you were putting this in proper context. I would let your kids listen to our programs like
Starting point is 00:23:53 the Strong Willed Child one, Stopping the Power Struggles Strong Willed Child, the ADHD University one, because this is how their brains work and they will feel so good about themselves and they'll get new ideas to help themselves throughout life. I get emails all the time from parents are like, oh my daughter listened to you say, oh it's not about managing your time, it's about managing your energy and she said everybody's always talked to me about managing my time and I'm not good at it, but I get this energy thing because I hyper-focus and I do. See, let your kids listen because it's about their brains and your kids are so smart.
Starting point is 00:24:33 They will really take ownership. Okay, let's do this now. Begin making some notes, including specific examples of your child using his or her natural gifts and strengths so we can begin providing proper context and building their confidence and do this routinely. These scripts and affirmation and context will change how your child views himself or herself
Starting point is 00:25:01 and how you see them. See, if you say these things routinely, man, it will change things. And we as parents have no qualms about continually reminding our kids of things they're doing wrong. Why don't we reverse that? Do that for the next week.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Here's your challenge. For the next week, notice everything that they're doing well. Begin calling out their different gifts. Many of your kids do see patterns. By the way, chess, checkers, arguing with you. They know the pattern because they know what you're gonna say before you say it. It makes them really good at sales and persuasion as well
Starting point is 00:25:43 because they can see the pattern in that argument. Let's start reminding them of their gifts. That'll change them inside. It'll change how grandparents and teachers and others see your child. Okay, I'm going to keep this short because I think this script and approach can be incredibly powerful. All right, moms, dads, grandparents, this is your challenge for the next week. I can't wait for you to do this. Even if your kids are really young and they don't fully understand, begin speaking the words to them, over them,
Starting point is 00:26:14 in front of them, to grandparents, to the preschool teacher to say, oh, man, here's, you can't believe what is going on in my son's brain. And they will hear that instead of just saying like, well, struggles with focus and attention and it has a lot of energy. No, here's what I know about my child.
Starting point is 00:26:33 See that builds their confidence. You're setting the tone and changing how everyone sees them. Okay, love you all, respect you all for this. This is the last few days of the Black Friday in March sale. Take advantage of that. If you need help with that, reach out to Casey. All right, you guys are crushing it. Talk to you soon, bye bye.

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