Calm Parenting Podcast - An Alternative to Consequences: How to Change Behavior & Build A Closer Relationship
Episode Date: January 22, 2021BONUS PODCAST!An Alternative to ConsequencesIn this short, eye-opening podcast, Kirk explains why basing your discipline on consequences will never truly work...and how you CAN change behavior while b...uilding a closer relationship with your child. Want personal mentoring with Kirk via Phone? Click here to learn about mentoring packages. We are including the No B.S. Program FREE with all mentoring purchases OR you can get it here for $99: https://celebratecalm.com/nobs/ Want to book a LIVE EVENT in 2021/2022?! We are now booking IN PERSON and Zoom eventsfor schools, PTAs, churches, synagogues, corporations, and agencies! Simply email Casey@CelebrateCalm with LIVE in the subject line and he'll share a one-page proposal within hours. It's EASY! Questions? Need help deciding on the best tools for your family? Email Casey@CelebrateCalm.com and Casey will help you personally! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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the right or appropriate consequence for your child? Do you
struggle because your kids largely don't care about consequences? It's hard, isn't it? Because
it's kind of parenting 101 is, well, kid does something wrong and you give them a consequence
because they have to learn that right from wrong and that when you do wrong or bad things, you lose something.
So that's what we're going to talk about today on the Calm Parenting Podcast. This is an impromptu
podcast. I hadn't planned this. I just got a couple emails. I did a phone consultation with
some parents and I was going to post on Facebook, but I'm not a huge fan of social media. And I thought, why don't I try to very quickly
do a thought experiment with consequences? So we have this fear as parents, right? Of like,
well, if we don't give the right consequence, what are we going to teach our kids?
And I want to think about it in a different way. Because look, think about this. If consequences really did work,
you and I, who were given lots of consequences when we were kids, natural consequences,
consequences for our parents, we grew up, right? Because our generation, we grew up the right way
with our parents. Well, if that really worked, then doesn't it make sense? Doesn't it follow that we as adults wouldn't mess up so much and make so many bad decisions?
And yet we do, right?
And so think about this.
Probably this morning or last night, you got frustrated and yelled at your child.
What if I were to follow you around for a day?
You'd hate me, but for a few hours and give you and gave you
a consequence for every single thing that you did wrong that hurt yourself or another person
that was just wrong, right? And so you yelled at your child and there I am. Sarah, you know,
it's not nice to yell at your child. And you threatened your child.
So tonight, no Netflix special for you.
And by the way, I'm taking away your phone as well.
Right?
You're not going to be like, thank you for giving me a consequence.
Because look, if I didn't get the consequence, I wouldn't have known that it was wrong to like yell at my child.
No, you know it's wrong.
You know it's not helpful. No, you know it's wrong. You know it's not helpful and yet you do it
anyway and it's not like me giving you a consequence is all of a sudden going to open
your eyes. What I really would do if I wanted to help you is to get to the root of why does your
child frustrate you so much? Is your child too much like you or is it
completely opposite of you? What's going on that you can't control yourself? Did you get that from
your mom or your dad? What's causing your frustration under there? That's what will fix it.
Just take this one. Some of you, I was just talking to a mom, phone consultation,
talks too much, the kids get really upset.
And what we found was that this mom, like most moms, has been, the analogy I use is you're like
a drive-thru that's open 24-7 for the last 15 years. And your kids can kind of just take
advantage of you because you're always there doing everything for everyone else. And your kids can kind of just take advantage of you because you're always there doing everything
for everyone else.
And your entire identity is wrapped up in being a mom.
And that makes sense because, I mean, why wouldn't it be?
And I get that.
But this was a mom with some older kids.
And I was like, you got to transfer from being mommy of being there all the time, 24-7, right?
To do everything for them to just being their mother and having
your own gifts and passions.
And you know, it was really interesting as we talked, I said, you know what I think you
need to do, and this was to the dad, is to take your wife out and have a celebration
and let her resign from being mommy and have a celebration and have them bring out a cake
at the restaurant.
And they're going to be like, well, is this for her birthday? No, it's just to celebrate her because she's been an awesome mommy
and she raised two great kids, but now they're capable of taking care of themselves. And they're
awesome for X, Y, and Z. But I wanted to celebrate what my wife has done. And you know, this mom
started crying and I said, why are you crying? And she said, because I just like to be acknowledged. I just
like to be acknowledged for all that I have done, right? Is that not a beautiful thing? And it's not
so hard, but we overlook it. And so, right? So if you're talking too much and lecturing too much
and nagging your kids, it doesn't work. And so the root of it isn't to take away your Netflix
tonight. It's to help release you from being overly responsible for other people. It's to
release you from your anxiety that makes you believe that if you're not there every second
of every day, making sure that they're successful, that maybe you failed as a parent or that they're
going to end up homeless or they're not going to be successful, right? We have to get to the root of it. Let me do a couple more. Let's say, here's one that some of us do,
you gossip. So a friend called to tell you about a friend, and then you're like, oh yeah, well,
you know how that works. And so again, do you need a consequence for doing that? Or do we need to
really delve in and think, how does that serve you? Why do you need to feel important, right?
A lot of it is, I need to feel important, so I'm going to talk about other people.
And it makes me feel better about myself knowing that Jim and Susie have issues like that.
I don't need to give you a consequence.
What we need to do is start practicing a different response, right?
When someone calls us like that and says,
yeah, man, you know what? If situation were different for me, I could see myself doing the
same thing. Now that's not quite as much fun as it is to talk badly about other people and make
yourself feel superior. But when you humble yourself and say, you know what? I could be in
the same position. So you know what? Maybe we should pray for them
or maybe we should serve them somehow
and see if we can take the pressure off of them, right?
If you practice that and you started doing that
and you saw and felt how good it feels
to be gracious and humble like that,
that will stop it, not giving you a consequence.
By the way, it'll
cause certain people not to call you anymore because they just make the rounds. And guess
what? When they're calling to talk about Jim and Susie, guess what? Later on today, they're
probably calling Jim and Susie to talk about you and your spouse and your family and your weird
or difficult, strong-willed child, right? So let me do one more and then I'll tie this up. Let's say,
you know, today you were undisciplined and you ate something you shouldn't have eaten that wasn't
good for your body. Or let's say that you're struggling with alcohol or some kind of addiction,
right? Do you need a consequence or don't you already know that you're literally doing things
that are destroying your body and destroying your life? You don't need a consequence. You need
someone to come in and help you to feel whatever it is, the root of that is to not feel so much
emotional or physical pain that drives you to do that or to consider yourself, right? A lot of you don't
consider yourself worthy of things going well in your life or of other people treating you well.
And it ends up, it's a worthiness issue. It's not about a consequence. So I want you to think about
that a little bit. This is just an extra podcast that I threw in because we go to consequence.
Every phone consultation that I do, everything, what's the consequence that we do for that I've got a child who is adopted or was in foster care and he gets really really upset
and throws things gets upset should we calm things down before we give the consequence
and I'm like he already knows throwing things is wrong where I want to spend the energy is giving
him tools to deal with the frustration so as I close this up I encourage you spend the energy is giving him tools to deal with the frustration.
So as I close this up, I encourage you for the next week,
instead of always talking about with your spouse or within your own head of like,
well, what consequences are going to get through?
By the way, if a consequence were going to get through,
you wouldn't be listening to this and you wouldn't need this, right?
Because we're all good at throwing out stuff, especially men.
You don't get to eat or play video games for the next week, right? We give consequences we can't
keep. And the harder work, the hard work, but the work that's going to make a difference is when we
dig down underneath the root and we think, why is that child doing it? Why is that child stealing?
Why? Maybe he steals things at night because it's stimulating for his brain and he's
like strategy and figuring things out and it's a challenge for him. And maybe your child lies,
not because he's a sociopath and a liar, but because he's ashamed of his behavior and he
doesn't have a lot of impulse control and he's tired of getting in trouble, so he ends up lying.
And so you get to the root of it and then you give the child tools to succeed.
So please write that phrase down. In school, that's why behavior charts in school don't work.
You may as well just tell the child, hey, for the rest of the year, you're going to be on red.
Until we spend some time and energy showing, giving the child tools to succeed because once he succeeds, now he knows what to do, right?
So let's work on that this week.
If we can help you, just reach out to Casey.
That's our son, C-A-S-E-Y at celebratecalm.com.
And we'd be glad to help you with any of our resources.
We can make it work within your budget.
We can help you.
We'll just write to us, email us.
We wanna help and we want this to be different
so we don't go down 15 years of consequences that don't work. Okay. Love you all. Thanks for
listening. Bye-bye.