Calm Parenting Podcast - Are You Excusing Behavior...Or Changing It? A Challenge! #450
Episode Date: February 19, 2025Are You Excusing Behavior...Or Changing It? A Challenge! #450 Your toddler finds scissors and mangles her bangs, your boys ruin your good pillows fighting outside, your tween/teen procrastinates until... 2am to complete an assignment. You would be justified and right to lecture and give them consequences. But this week, I am challenging you to do something very different when your child misbehaves....that will actually change their behavior more quickly. Our Winter Sale on the Get Everything Package continues this week. Begin 2025 with hundreds of practical strategies that really work with your strong-willed kids. Visit https://celebratecalm.com/products and make 2025 DIFFERENT. AG1 AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3 & K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. Go to https://drinkag1.com/calm HAPPY MAMMOTH Get 15% off on your entire first order at https://HappyMammoth.com with the code CALM at checkout. HUNGRYROOT.COM Get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to https://hungryroot.com/ and use code CALM. ONE SKIN Go to https://oneskin.co and use code KIRK at checkout for an exclusive 15% off your first purchase. COZY EARTH Wrap yourself and your kids in Cozy Earth luxury...with 40% OFF! Visit https://cozyearth.com/ and use my exclusive 40% off code CALM. IXL LEARNING Get an exclusive 20% off an IXL membership when you sign up today at https://IXL.com/KIRK. ​EQUIP HEALTH If you’re concerned at all about your child’s relationship with food, don’t wait to get an expert’s advice.​ Visit​ https://www.equip.health/calm for a free consultation with Equip. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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or not the way you want them to. Your little kids when they clean up a mess
they use good clothes, clean clothes to do it. Or two kids are using really your
nice pillows off the sofa in order to body slam each other outside, ruining the
pillows. A daughter cuts her bangs. your teen or tween stays up all
night long to do a project and I have a challenge for you this week. I want you
to be able to turn irritating situations into bonding ones. I had this fantastic
story I've been waiting for weeks to share with you so that is what we're
going to discuss on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast. So welcome
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So here's such a cool story.
Now this is for older kids,
but then I will apply this to toddlers, elementary age,
whatever ages your kids are.
So a mom had written and told me this story.
She said, I woke up in the middle of the night
and I saw that the light was on
in my daughter's bedroom at 2 a.m.
And I knew it was happening.
She was up completing a project
that should have been completed many days before.
And she said, I was so frustrated with her and
I wanted to go in and I wanted to lecture her and and and get all over her.
But instead she said I actually went into my bathroom I pulled up this the
app with your programs and I just started listening because I knew I
wouldn't be able to sleep. I knew I needed to reset and I found this section
where you were kind of talking about this and she said I went back to
Sleep and I got up in the morning now
Here's what the mom said she wanted to say you know what honey if you would have just started on Tuesday
You would have had it done on time
You need to learn to be more organized and proactive and I can actually show you how to do that
You know what you're gonna be tired and proactive, and I can actually show you how to do that.
You know what?
You're gonna be tired all day long and probably crabby now.
There is no need for you to stay up all night like that.
That's what your child is expecting to hear,
and 999,999 parents will handle it that way.
I want you to be the one who is different.
So here's what this amazing mom did because she fought her own anxiety and
control issues and all of those feelings of like why does my daughter have to do
it like this? Why does she make things so difficult on herself?
And why does she cause me so much anxiety?
Instead, the mom got up.
Her daughter came downstairs.
She gave her daughter a fist bump and said, you know what?
That was clutch.
You got your project done.
You stayed up until the middle of the night when it was done.
You were conscientious.
You cared about it enough to battle being tired
and staying up.
You were focused late at night.
You got it done and I'm proud of you.
And she said the look on her daughter's face was priceless.
And her daughter said face was priceless.
And her daughter said, but mom, aren't you mad at me?
And the mom said, look, some of this you're just going to have to fight through because
inside you are frustrated and irritated.
But the mom said, why would I be mad at you?
You got it done.
You just didn't do it the way I would have done it
But you did get it done. You were clutch. You came through under pressure. You were focused and conscientious
It's well done and mom walked away
Now here is the really cool thing and why I've been waiting because what I told the mom is
your daughter will eventually come to you and say,
mom, I don't wanna be up till the middle of the night
every time doing these, can you help me?
Well, it is now three weeks later, which is not bad
because I told the mom, it could be three months,
it could be three years from now.
But the daughter came to her
because she had said along the way,
hey mom, she can always say, hey look if you need some help with that, if you want
to learn how to organize and do that, just let me know sometime. And then you
walk out of the room. Well here's what's really cool. The daughter finally came to
her after this happened a couple more times and said
mom I'm tired of doing it this way can you help me with this and this was
really cool now the daughter's asking for help remember we've talked about
that in the lecturing series we did about drawing your kids so that they
come asking you and so the mom gave her the ADHD University program
and said, honey, I think this is gonna help you.
And they've had talks about like,
hey, this isn't a disorder,
there's nothing wrong with your brain,
it just works differently.
And time management will probably never be your strong suit,
but you have to learn how to manage your energy
because you work on momentum. You're a highly sensitive person so you feel
things deeply. And so they had this amazing talk now about how the daughter's
brain works. They had a great talk about the fact that the mom's brain works in a
very different way and she's kind of more of a left brain,
very, very project manager person.
And so what the mom said is previously,
it would have just been her lecturing,
getting on her daughter,
her daughter would have shut down,
once again felt like I'm a failure,
I can never please my parents,
I'm not as good as my brother.
And instead, they're having this conversation.
Now the daughter is starting to take ownership over this herself because she's understanding how her brain works.
So I know when I go through this there's going to be questions. Well, aren't you just
excusing her behavior? And answer is no. The daughter in this situation already knows that it's
suboptimal to wait
until the last night to wait until 2 AM.
But what she didn't realize and didn't
know was she does this for a couple
reasons. One, you're really sensitive kids.
There's sense of all the chaos and
commotion in the house,
and sometimes they stay up late at night
because that's after everybody goes to bed.
And they can think more clearly.
They can process information more clearly when it's kind of just quiet like that.
And there's also a brain stimulation issue.
Procrastination is a tool.
It's not always my favorite or the best tool, but it is an effective tool because when you procrastinate and wait
till the last minute, now you have a very definitive time limit and there's pressure
and that adrenaline rush brings blood flow to the brain and actually helps you concentrate.
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It's not because you're lazy and careless
and you don't follow through.
It's like, no, this is how your brain works.
But now I can teach you a way to get that brain stimulation
in more productive and healthy ways
so you don't have to wait until last night
till two o'clock in the morning. See, and's also like well aren't you gonna give her a consequence?
Well no she already has a consequence which is she is tired. There's no need to
pile on here on this child and here's what's really cool. The mom in this case
you just spoke truth. You said hey you did come through in the last minute.
You were conscientious and focused at 2 a.m.
You got it done.
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What's it going to be like in the future?
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I know we wanted the daughter that day to say,
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It came, but it came a few weeks later
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So here's another kind of real life example
of these two boys who they like to wrestle a lot.
And one day when no one was looking, they took the good pillows off the sofa and they got duct tape
and they tied the pillows to themselves so they could go outside and wrestle and throw themselves
against each other without getting hurt. Well, what
happens? Well, they kind of ruined the pillows and they were all dirty and and
so the natural response of any parent is, what were you guys, what were you
thinking? Like what were you thinking? Now you ruined my pillows and see that now
we go down that negative route. So does that mean we just say, you know guys, I love when you ruin my stuff.
No, but my first step is to just control myself
for a moment and take the, get the larger picture,
larger perspective.
That's partly why I like to be calm,
is because it slows my world down inside
so I can see situations in a different way. There will be a consequence for
this. But the first thing I want to tell my kids is, hey, awesome job being outside playing together.
Because how many of us we complain they're on their screens all the time. Why won't you go out
and play? And then when they do go out and play, they don't do it in a way you want because they
get dirty and messy or they throw something in a neighbor's house
So hey you guys were outside playing that was really smart
You knew that you were gonna throw yourselves at each other and wrestle so you did it in a really safe way
That's a really creative solution to that
Well done and again just think your, they don't think things through.
That's why consequences are very limited,
especially for younger kids,
because they don't stop in that moment and think,
huh, let's think this through, brother or sister.
Do you think mom or dad will be upset at us if we do that?
They don't, they're impulsive
because that's what you're supposed to be
when you're a kid, impulsive and go do stuff.
And so they know after they get done playing when mom or dad comes out, the pillows are
ruined.
So when you first come out and you're like, hey, nice job playing outside, that was smart,
you didn't get hurt, very creative.
It's like, here's another part before we get to the consequence. It gives you some
insight. These are kids who have some sensory processing needs. It makes
their bodies feel settled in order to get that physical pressure. So that gives
you an opportunity now to say, hey, if I don't want my kids using the pillows
throwing themselves at each other, I can sign them up for martial arts class getting
involved in rock climbing just had a parent whose son wanted to do ballet and
just think about that just thinking ballet how intense that is and that
physical pressure on your body man that's really really healthy. Swimming, ice hockey, as our son
did because he liked to throw himself at other kids. You know, shoveling mulch in
the backyard. Doing that heavy work is really good for them. Now you don't just
have to be some permissive parenting. Oh I just love it when my boys are creative
and destroy my house. It's not what I'm saying. So at the end of
this you can say, hey guys love your creativity, love that how that happened, but you just ruined,
destroyed the two pillows and so you're gonna have to do some chores around the house in order to
earn some money to pay for replacement pillows. There's nothing mean about that.
There's nothing that's appropriate.
Because you did encourage them.
You recognized all the good things.
But you're also saying, hey, next time,
think it through a little bit more.
Or come tell me, hey mom,
we want to throw ourselves at each other.
You got a better way to do that
without ruining your pillows. You could also go to a thrift store which I love and buy
stuff there that they can now use or have them buy it because it's really
cheap there so that in the future when they want to do things and destroy
something it's just something you got from a thrift store. What about the same
thing like right little girl or little boy.
This was me when I was a little kid.
I don't know why.
When I was a little kid, I got scissors
and I just cut my hair.
And then I hid in the cabinet underneath the sink.
My mom couldn't find me.
This is back in the day, like parents had like,
she had like four boys within six years,
so she lost count of us.
But anyway, same thing, right?
Like daughter made a mess trying to cut her bangs. They're not going to look right. So
child's going to be embarrassed. You might be embarrassed. And again you come
in and in this case I'm a little bit curious and instead of honey what were
you thinking? Now we're going to have to blah blah blah blah. It's not everything
is shame because sometimes when kids make bad choices like hey you just
made a bad decision.
There's no shame there but there's a consequence for that.
That's perfectly fine.
But in this case I'd be curious about it.
Like why did you want to cut your bangs?
Was it the sensory feel of it?
Was it just that it was something new and you were bored?
Figure that out.
But there's different ways you
can handle these situations. It's like little kids who get food out and they
just make their own dinner or their own meal. Well what happens? They're gonna
make a mess out of everything. They're probably not gonna do it the right way.
It's like the toddler who puts twist ties in his shoes so he doesn't have to
learn how to tie
his shoes. Your kids just do things in different ways and so this coming week
what I want you to do is pause. Just stop before you react. It doesn't mean you're
gonna be inside like, I just love that my kids make messes and do things wrong, but
with a kid who made something you
say, hey, I like your initiative. I like the creativity. I like that you were wanting to
be independent. That's what it is. I like that you wanted to be independent and do this
yourself. Now there's going to be a mess all over the counter. And instead of this, my
own personal opinion, you have every right to say, hey, you made the mess, you clean
it up. But my experience says strong will kids are just not going to
do that. So you put on some music and say, you know what, let's celebrate your
independence and your creativity and that you gave that a shot. I'll help you
clean up, which means you're gonna do most of it. And then I can show you and
start teaching you how to cook for yourself. In these situations now you're
starting to teach your kids how to be responsible for themselves. The girl
that stayed up till 2 a.m. just think of what we learned from that and how we
were able to build her up and say hey you are clutch under pressure and then
teaching her how her brain works.
I want you to do that with your little kids.
Hey, here's why you did that because you have a natural need for your brain to be stimulated.
So you can either do it this way, hitting your brother, but you're just going to lose
your stuff and get in trouble.
Or if you've got a really big heart, I can show you different ways to get brain stimulation
doing something else.
So here's the insight.
So let's try that this week.
Here's the insight I want to give you into these kids.
And I did it.
It's not enough to do like an entire podcast on it, but it relates to this.
Your kids will often strong will kids will often choose a different area in which to excel in life.
And I'll give you an example. So growing up I was really good athlete playing
ball sports. So of course, I become a dad, got a son, I want him to play ball sports.
Guess what? He's not very good at it. He ends up choosing ice hockey, which is
skating, and he skis really well. Guess what are two things I'm not good at doing?
Skating and skiing. Now, did he do that on purpose? I don't know. I think it's probably
subconscious because I've noticed this in most of the families that I've worked with
is the child will choose an area that's their own. Because you know what my son knew is no matter what he did,
he would never really be able to please me
or live up to my expectations with ball sports
because I was really into it.
So he chose other areas.
And now I can't lecture him.
It's not me teaching him how to do those things.
It's actually the reverse,
which is he's teaching me how to ski.
So you'll find, I found this in families sometimes where you have like two highly educated parents,
right? Both doctors or have master's degrees, doctorates. The child knows, look, I can never,
I can never exceed your expectations. I can't even live up to them.
So they kind of shut down because they want their own area.
So what I encourage you to do is one is be aware of that and let
your kids shine in an area that is not yours.
And I also want to encourage you this week.
Let's pick a behavior or a situation that
comes up or that irritates you a lot. Flip around the script in your brain from,
why can't they do it my way? Why do they always have to do it this way? And begin doing a couple
things. One is ask, why do they do it the way they do it? Slow your world down.
Be a detective this week.
You will learn about what motivates your child,
about how their brains work,
so that you can work with their nature,
and instead of letting your own anxiety
and control issues dump all over them
so that they feel like the bad kid
or the kid who can never please you,
now look at situations and say,
ah, that's why they're doing it that way.
Because if you can acknowledge that and affirm that and then teach your child and say, oh, I know
exactly why you're laying upside down off the sofa. Because when you do that, blood flow rushes to
your brain. That's actually really good for your brain and it helps you concentrate.
Here are five other ways in order to, you can stimulate your brain and do homework more
easily.
This is why you stay up late at night, that procrastination.
Do that this week and then what happens is your kids begin to look to you as a source
of wisdom, as someone they trust
because you're just not commenting all the time on negative what they're doing
wrong. You're saying, oh man I never thought to do it that way. Now I figured
out why you do that. Be curious and say, I am curious. Why did you do it that way?
Because it seems to work for you. It's just different than I would do it.
Now you can problem solve and teach them.
Okay, you've got your goal.
Find an irritating behavior, flip the script around, and let's begin affirming and teaching
our kids.
I do encourage you, let your kids listen to the podcast.
If you have our programs on the app, we can even if you have older kids who have their
own phone, we can send Casey's Straight Talk for Kids program,
the ADHD University program, the Stronghold Child program,
any of them, we can send them directly to your child
or just play them in the car
because then your kids begin to hear,
oh, that guy's describing me.
That's how my brain works.
So there's nothing wrong with my brain. No, it just works differently than other kids do or the teachers brain works or mind works
So how can we do this the way it works for you have those?
Discussions it's really cool. Okay moms and dads
Respect you so much for working so hard to change if we can help you any way. Let us know. Okay. Love you
I'll talk to you soon. Bye. Bye