Calm Parenting Podcast - Calming Upset Kids & Dealing with Defiance
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a really intense kid when they're really upset? I'm going
to give you a quick tip here, something I want you to try this week. I want you to acknowledge
their frustration, them being overwhelmed with some intensity. And here's a great phrase. Just
use this phrase. You know what? If I were you, I'd be really frustrated too. Or if I were you,
I'd be upset too. Or I'd be angry. There's something about
acknowledging it with some intensity. Doesn't mean you have to agree with it. Doesn't mean that it
gives them license to throw things, call you names, punch a hole in the wall. But acknowledge
with some intensity. Because I can guarantee you that what you often want when you're upset
is for your spouse to look at you and say,
you know what, I'd be frustrated too.
And I made a joke at a live event last week and I said,
look, that acknowledgement, that's all, speaking to the men,
it's what your wife is looking for.
Instead of like, oh honey, there's no need to be upset, you're just overreacting.
And then I went a step further and said,
if you wonder why your wife won't go to bed with
you, it's because you dismiss her legitimate concerns. You dismiss her emotions because you
think you need to fix it. And you don't, man. You don't have to fix it. You just have to acknowledge
that what she's feeling is real to her. That's all. And then I said, the other reason she won't
go to bed with you is because she has to
manage her emotions every night because when she's too busy managing her child's emotions
and then your emotions because you escalate everything and yes she's too soft she coddles
the kids of course but if you spent that much time with all the strong will kids you would as well
and she needs some support this is very practical stuff we're talking about, and I know that makes many of you uncomfortable, but this is real life, and relationships are
serious. I wish we took our relationships with our spouse and with our kids as seriously as we
take our politics, because people get angry about that, and you'll spend hours and hours on forms
and getting upset and doing all of these
things. And that's fine, rightly so. But why don't we put the same amount of energy into fixing our
relationships? Not just changing a child's behavior, but changing our very relationships.
Because that's what's going to change your home. That's what will change your community
when we've got relationships change, and that changes behavior
too. So that's a nice beginning to the Calm Parenting Podcast, isn't it? I didn't plan on
saying that, but that's why you're here, and that's what we do. And my name's Kirk Martin.
I'm founder of Celebrate Calm. You can find us at CelebrateCalm.com. If you need anything,
reach out to our son, Casey. He is a strong-willed one. His name's Casey. It's Casey, C-A-S-E-Y,
at CelebrateCalm.com. If you need anything, email him. Let him know. Tell us about your family.
We'll give you some ideas. We'll kick things around. If you need any of our resources,
we have huge sales right now. We have something called the At Your Wits End Sale, because you're
probably listening because you're at your wits end. And we want you to have practical tools that actually work in your home. So we put it on sale and we can give you the right
resources for your kids' ages and within your budget. But you have to reach out. So today,
here's what we're going to talk about. So I get this email. This is a few months into making this
story, but I'll summarize it this way. So some parents
had signed up for our stuff, school bootcamp, some other stuff. And so I told them, I was like,
hey, I've got a hunch. Tell your son, ask him if he wants to do the homework sitting in the car,
because it's weird and weird stuff works with many of your kids. So something interesting happened.
He went out to do homework in the car. It takes
him several hours. He comes in hours later and his parents are like, well, how'd that go? Did
you get your work done? He goes, yeah, I got my homework done, but I discovered something else.
I want you guys, this is a 10 year old kid. I want you guys to stop lecturing me. And I want
you to get off my back. And they're like taking taking a back like, well, this is, that's pretty
defiant and rude. But he kept going. He said, I want you to do that. But here's what I learned.
I need to learn how to control myself. Because this kid told me that if I learn how to control
myself, my emotions and my impulses, you won't have to control me and I don't want to be controlled. And they're like, wait, was that your homework? And he said, no, you guys had some CDs out there in the car and they looked
interesting and I was curious and I needed a break from my boring schoolwork. So I started listening,
but I got kind of hooked on it because what I heard was this guy was like talking about me. It's like he knows me.
But he was also describing you guys.
And you guys lecture too much.
And you're on me all the time.
And it's all your own anxiety, mom and dad.
And I want you to know I'm going to be okay in life.
I just need you to relax a little bit.
And he said, but there's also one, the Straight Talk for Kids CD that this guy's son did. And I listened to it and I realized
I am partially to blame for it because I'm always getting upset and I need to learn how to control
myself. And so they were kind of taken aback, like what kind of kid comes in bossing his parents
around, but then also takes responsibility for himself.
And my answer to them was, a strong willed kid. It's what they do. And that's why I've said for
years, I want your kids listening to our CDs, to the downloads. Download it right on their phone
because they will get this stuff way more quickly than you do. And it cuts right to their heart and
they feel understood. And it is why, look, I know
people get tired of this, but look, there's a reason we have the CDs because it works. We've
done this for 20 years. And what I know is when people go through them methodically, we give you
so much content, so many practical strategies. It will change your child. It will change you. It will change your home. So it's worth it. So we've got it on sale. Take advantage of it or reach out to Casey. But
anyway, that's not the point of this. The point is that this is who your kids are. And so it got
me thinking because we get emails every day that reflect the frustration that you as parents have in raising
strong-willed kids, right? The fears you have about their future, the anxiety, the frustration,
the anger at times over the defiance, over them just making everything difficult. It's real.
It's legitimate. No doubt about it. These kids are a puzzle and they're really frustrating.
And so usually the email sounds something like this. Hey, Kirk, I'm at my wit's end with this strong-willed child. It's like you've got a camera in our house. He argues over everything. He makes
every request so difficult, right? Gets upset. He melts down. He won't push through when school's
hard. He gets really upset when we ask him to get off screens. It's like World War III, right? He's got to do everything on his own terms. She fights constantly with her
siblings and we try so hard to get our kids to just love each other, right? And some of it will
even say, I don't understand why God gave us such a challenging child. It's exhausting. We don't even
know what to do. How can I get this child to listen to me? Help, right?
That's very, very common.
So part of the reason I say that is because I want you to know you're not alone.
And this is very normal way that happens.
And I don't like doing fear stuff, right?
Of like, well, if you don't change, bad things are going to happen with your kids.
And so I don't usually go there.
And I'm not going to go there right now, except to allude to the fact that if you don't change
these things and you don't change the relationship, it's not like it just goes away.
That's what I always thought as a guy.
I was like, well, I'm a decent dad.
It'll turn out okay.
It doesn't turn out okay.
It doesn't.
You can't ignore this stuff.
So I began thinking, well, what's the flip side of this?
What would your kids say if they could write in to us?
And I thought, it might sound a little like this.
And there's no blame and no guilt.
I don't do blame or guilt.
So don't go there.
It's just an interesting thought experiment to see if we can get some insight.
And so kind of like that
10-year-old who had that talk with his parents, it may sound like this. Hey, Kirk and Casey,
I'm at my wit's end. I just don't know why God gave me parents like this. They expect me to be
able to calm down and control myself, but they're grownups and they can't even control themselves.
They never stop talking and lecturing.
They're always pointing out what I'm doing wrong
and they misjudge my motives
and it's like they see the worst in me.
And they keep trying to fix everything,
like I'm dumb or I'm incapable.
It's like they don't believe in me
because they're always on me, like I can't do it.
And instead of affirming what I do right,
they keep focusing on everything I do
wrong. And it just makes me want to give up because I know I can never please them.
And I've tried to tell them that lecturing and yelling doesn't work with me, right? But they
have, it's like they have to do everything on their own terms. Can you kind of hear how they
could flip that around? They're controlling. They have so much anxiety over my future.
My dad gets upset and he shakes his head in disdain.
Does he realize how humiliating and how angry that makes me feel?
Like I can never please him?
I love my dad.
I want his approval.
But it seems like nothing is ever good enough.
And I'm also concerned because my mom and dad don't get along that well.
I can read between the lines. I know they disagree over how to discipline me. My dad says my mom lets
me get away with things, but I know she kind of likes it when he's away because he blows up too
much and gets really angry. Sometimes they fight, but usually they just don't even talk to each
other. It's like they're growing apart. And if my own parents can't get along as adults, what hope do I have?
And if they can't even get along in their adults, how can I get along with my siblings?
And I don't know what to do.
I've tried everything.
I've tried yelling at them.
I know that's not right and I shouldn't do it.
And I've shut down.
But it's like nothing gets through to them.
And I learned how to yell from them.
I kind of learned how to withdraw from my dad.
So how do I get them to listen to your podcast?
How do I get them to actually change
so they finally understand me
and so they finally listen to me?
If you can hear that with honest ears,
and I'm gonna send that out in our free newsletter
so you can kind of read that,
and you can really break that down because there's some good insight there, right? We're asking our
kids to do things that we aren't even capable or willing to do. And that's fundamentally,
that fundamentally will not work in your home. Kids are very bright and they put this stuff
together and there's no blame and there's no guilt in here. I'm keeping this short on purpose
because I really want us to focus on changing ourselves
and changing this dynamic.
So just like that kid strode into his room and said,
well, I want you guys to stop yelling and lecturing at me.
But then he took control and said,
hey, but I need to learn how to control myself.
I want you to take that pledge with your kids
that you're going to change. And I want you to take that pledge with your kids that you're going to change.
And I want you to begin doing this and working on it.
Many parents are like, well,
what if we admit that we yell and we show them
that we're working on this?
Aren't they going to,
like, isn't that gonna hurt our authority?
And I'm like, no, that builds it because your kids,
look, one of the reasons Casey respects me
and the reasons he changed is because he saw me literally change right in front of him.
He saw me wrestle with this stuff to start to yell, but then to stop.
He saw me doing this stuff and shaking my head at him, but then apologizing for being
demeaning.
And he watched me wrestle and changed and watched us change our marriage.
And he watched all of this happen right in front
of his eyes. Do you not know that is the greatest lecture you can give your child is changing.
And so let's focus like a laser on that. Let's change ourselves. And remember, the first thing
I gave you was that tip on acknowledging with intensity. Let's change this. If we can help you,
right, reach out to us. We have, we're calling it the at your wits end sale because
that's where you are. And we want to help. And we know with COVID people are struggling.
Email us. We will help you, but go on the website. You will see the get everything package. We made
it the cheapest we have ever done. And we're giving a little bonus. Casey recorded a 30 minute
video directly to kids about how to control themselves, how to deal with siblings,
right, how to deal with impulse control, all of those things. It's very, very powerful,
and we're going to include that as another bonus because with the Get Everything, you also get,
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give Casey's video with this free as well, because we want you guys to, we want to change your home.
So if you need help, reach out to Casey, C-A-S-E-Y, CelebrateCalm.com. He will help you out with that.
Go to our website, Celebrate Calm. Everything's there. If you don't want to get everything, emails, we can put together a package for you.
But let me end with this.
I believe that it is within your control right now to control yourself, to change yourself.
And the quickest way to change your child's behavior is to first control your own.
And if you will focus on that, let's do it for 30 days.
Take a pledge with me through November.
Let's do this. Whatever.
Take 60 days. By the end of this year, let's start the new year where we're a new family.
We can do this and I will walk you through it. So just let us know how we can help you. Okay.
Thanks for listening. Share this and we'll talk to you soon. Love you. Bye-bye.