Calm Parenting Podcast - Defiance: 3 Scripts with Your Kids
Episode Date: November 18, 2019Defiance: 3 Scripts with Your KidsHow do you respond when your kids use that tone with you? How about when they talk back, mouth off, or roll their eyes at you? Kirk gives you actual scripts to use pl...us he shares a funny response to throw your kids off. Take advantage of early access to our Christmas Sale to get dozens of scripts like this for every situation at https://www.CelebrateCalm.com/Christmas. Need help or want to Book Kirk in your town? Email Casey@CelebrateCalm.com or call 888-506-1871 for the friendliest service on the planet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. You're well listening to the Calm Parenting Podcast. We're going to talk about defiance today. You know why? Because
you have kids that are often defiant. And a lot of your kids are very strong-willed kids. They're
not going to listen to you the first time, right? They're going to always, when you tell them to do
something, they're going to ask why. They often will melt down over things. Some of your kids will just flat out refuse and say, no, I'm not doing it.
Some of them, in an even more annoying manner, will just simply ignore you and not even listen to you, right?
And then a lot of times what you have is, you know, a lot of the defiance you're going to see is because your kids are anxious and they have anxiety.
And when you're really anxious, you look very, very inward
and you try to control everything.
And so when you try to control everything, you usually become defiant,
sometimes disrespectful towards your parents.
And so I'm not going to handle that tonight because that's what we do on
all of the CD programs allow us.
Look, the podcasts are cool, but I'll give you a couple stories.
The programs that we've recorded just go into a lot more detail,
and we get to hit it from like 15 different angles instead of just one, right?
So you're going to have kids who are overwhelmed at times, right?
Because watch what happens when you and I get overwhelmed.
We kind of shut down, and when someone comes along and asks us to do something
or even just do something with them,
our first impulse is usually to say no.
Why? It's kind of a self-preservation thing.
That happens as well.
So you have to get to the root of it.
But in this podcast, I just want to hit three different ways you can handle kids
kind of using the wrong tone with you,
talking back to you, rolling their eyes. So let me do the
first one. It's kind of a fun response, and I don't necessarily recommend it, but I just like to have
fun. So as many of you know, our son Casey is extremely strong-willed, still is, which helps
him be extremely successful, and he at times has a little bit of mouth on him. And so I remember there were days where you could just see the glimmer, the little twinkle in his eyes.
And he still gets it.
And he just wants to have a go at it, right?
He kind of just wants to argue.
And so there were times at which, and this again is not my favorite strategy,
but there were times when he would come after me and I'd look at him
and say, you know what, Case? I think you're absolutely right. And then I'd walk away. And
it would so irritate him because I knew he was looking for the argument. He wanted to engage.
And I didn't plan on saying this, but you know what he's really looking for, and we've talked
about it before, is the brain stimulation, the intensity. And there were times at which I'd say,
hey, look, I know what you're going after right now. I know you're probably bored. I know you
worked up. I know something else is going on. And so you just want to engage and you want to
suck me into an argument. Just not going to happen because I don't go into the courtroom
with an eight-year-old, a 14-year-old, 22-year-old.
Just not how I roll. So if you want to get that brain stimulation in a positive way and you want
me to give you some positive intensity, oh, I can do that. Let's talk about X, Y, and Z. And I lead
him to another place, but I don't ever react to a child. By the way, I don't ignore kids, but I also
don't react to them. I respond to them and I I give them wisdom, and I give them tools, and I try to read them how life works because that's what teaching is.
It's not saying, I can't believe that you would talk to me like that.
After all I've done for you.
That's your issue, and you need to stop doing that.
Does that sound harsh?
Too bad.
You need to stop doing it.
You know why?
Because it's ruining your relationship.
You keep doing it again and again.
I know you can have all kinds of excuses and
justification. Well, you don't know how defiant my child is. Yeah, I do. I had that child. Guess
what? I'm the same way. I'm pretty aware of how defiant I can be. And so I'm aware of that. We
had 1,500 of these kids in my home. They all tried different tactics and strategies on me.
So I get that. But the one thing I know in life is there's one person in life I can control, and that's myself.
And when I learn how to control myself, I can diffuse situations instead of always escalating them.
And I encourage you to do that.
So what happens if you have a daughter or son, I don't care what age they are, right, and they come at you with that tone?
Well, there's a couple different ways to handle it. By the way, a quick note, because I don't do what age they are, right? And they come at you with that tone. Well, there's a couple different ways to handle it.
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Okay. So Casey used to come at me at times and he'd have that tone in his voice, and you know that tone, and if you want,
you can respond with your own tone, right? You're not going to talk to me like that. How many times
have I told you? Doesn't work, right? So one day, I step back. Those of you who know our process,
you step back. Give your child a chance to step up. You step back. You don't react. You think for
a second and say, huh. Case, you know what I've noticed is the last 87 times, you don't react, you think for a second, say, huh, okay, so you know what I've noticed is
the last 87 times, you don't have to say that, but last 87 times, you can just say like, look,
what I've noticed is whenever you use that tone with me, what it tells me is you're anxious,
you're frustrated, or you're hungry, because those are our son's three triggers to this day at age 26. So look, son, two options.
You may continue to talk to me that way, but I just promise if you do, you're going to lose all
your stuff. It's not going to end well with you. Look, there's no need for a big threat. I just
let them know how I roll, even matter of fact tone, because that lets them know I'm not going
to get all flustered. I'm not going to get drawn into a big fight. And I know how life works because when you talk to me like that, this is just how it
works. But, and the energy always goes to problem solving, but if you want to grab some chips,
I'll grab some salsa. I'll meet you out on the deck. I'll help you with whatever you're struggling
with. Again, I've done this in previous podcasts in different ways of calming kids down. You can't
always go outside. You can't always do something with one single child there. And I've done this in previous podcasts in different ways of calming kids down. You can't always go outside. You can't always do something with one single child there. And I've done this with
multiple kids, right? But the point is, I hear him and I begin to identify for him,
look, I think I know why you're sounding like this. You can even say it in your head like,
hey, I think I'm pretty aware. I think I know why you're being such a jerk right now.
Just say that to yourself. But what I'm communicating is, look, I'm the grown-up.
I'm the adult. I'm the mature one here. I've noticed some patterns in your life. And when I
hear this tone in your voice, it usually tells me one of three things is going on. So we can go down
that road. Probably not going to end well. But by the way, stop taking everything personally,
because I just heard my voice, like all the guys out there like, yeah, my son's never going to end well. But by the way, stop taking everything personally. Because I just heard my
voice, like all the guys out there like, yeah, my son's never going to talk to me like that. I was
like, why? You never talk to anybody like that? You never have a bad day? You're just always
perfect all the time? What, he's disrespecting you? Can I be blunt? You're the grown-up. You're
the grown-up. Start acting like it. Stop being like a big baby.
Oh, but I'm the authority figure in the home. Kids are supposed to... You're the authority figure,
which means you're supposed to be the leader in the home. And the leader doesn't react,
and the reader doesn't walk around demanding things. The leader doesn't walk around expecting
to be treated all perfectly. The leader's a grown-up, mature person who knows how to handle real effing life.
Sorry, this is a Christmas message.
Didn't mean for that to come out.
But sometimes you have to hear it like that.
You have to hear it with a little bit of intensity.
And, right, I'm not badgering you with this, but I want to get through to you and not be like, well, you know, I don't like that tone myself.
As a man, I just like to be told when I'm being a little you-know what? And I like to be able to, look, you got to grow up. I like that
kind of talk. Like, give it to me straight. So this is not meant to be disrespectful to you,
but to say, grow up and stop acting like your kids are supposed to walk on eggshells around you and
say, oh, the king has entered the room. No, your job is to be the grown
up and be mature and be able to handle your kids when they're at their worst so that they can trust
you. And if you want to know one thing I want more than anything else for all of us between now and
the end of the year, the Christmas gift to your kids is to let them know you're dealing with the
grown up and when your world is out of control,
mine's not. So if anything happens in your life, and you're anxious and frustrated, and you're overwhelmed, and you don't know what to do, you can come to me because I'm a trusted advisor,
and I'll give you good wisdom, and I'm going to step back and let you make some choices.
I'm just going to give you some wisdom, and I can help you no matter what's going on. Right.
Otherwise, it's just, look, your kids aren't going to respect you. Guys out there, they're not going
to respect you. They just fear you a lot of times because like, oh, you're not going to talk to me
like that. I never talked to my father like that. And I get that because my dad was that way.
But it doesn't mean it's the right way just because your dad did it that way. You have a
chance to actually create a new generational pattern in your home in which the men, the women, the moms, the dads in the home
can actually control themselves so their kids learn how to control themselves. It's a really
cool thing. You know why else I like chips and salsa? Because you never see two people eating
chips and salsa yelling at each other, right? If you see two people eating chips and salsa yelling at each other, right? If you see two people eating
chips and salsa, they're usually relaxing and have a good time. Throw in a couple margaritas,
everybody's happy. The point is it changes the dynamic from a face-off against you because the
attitude that you're using to, I can tell there's something going on with you and I'm not going to
engage on that level, but if you want to come do something else with me, and again, you can make up a thousand different things that you could do with them.
If you want to do that, I could help you problem solve here so you don't lose all your stuff.
And so we actually get to a solution. Does that make sense? It's really cool. So do one more.
Let's say that you've got, I'm just going to use this, you've got a teenage daughter, it can be a
son, it could be older, younger, whatever, Rolling your eyes at you, talking back to you.
You have every right to say, young lady, you're not going to treat me like that, and I'm fine with
that. But here's some language, and you'll hear it more fully developed on the CD programs,
because I just don't have time in a podcast to do all of them. But here's what it is. Honey,
listen, the truth is, I don't need you to respect me because I have something called
self-respect. And self-respect says when people treat me like that, I don't turn around and then
take them and run them all over the place and feed them and serve them because I have something
called self-respect. By the way, I really want you to work on the self-respect. You'll hear that on
the Straight Talk for Moms program because we talk about, especially for moms and dads, but moms a
lot, your kids don't respect your time because you don't respect your time. And you can't demand
respect from another person. You have to demonstrate something called self-respect. It's a powerful,
powerful concept that I want you to get a hold of. So look, I don't need you to respect me because
I have something called self-respect. The truth is, honey, teenager, younger child, the reason I want you to respect me,
it's not for my own sake, it's for you. See, the reason I wanted my son to respect me,
I don't need his respect. I'm not looking for validation from a child as a parent. I want him
to respect me because I know when he respects me, good things happen to kids who respect their
parents, right? So honey, here's what I know.
You're 12, you're 14, you're going to want to have all this freedom.
You're going to want to go to sleepovers and birthday parties and high school football games.
You're going to want to get your driver's license one day.
And I want you to have all that freedom.
But here's what I know.
Every time you roll your eyes at me, every time you talk back to me, what it communicates is you're not
mature enough to handle that freedom. See, because four-year-olds, when they don't get what they want,
they roll their eyes and talk back and throw a tantrum. And so if you're going to act like that,
then I've got to kind of have to treat you like that, right? So look, you may continue to roll
your eyes and talk back to me, but it's not going to work with me. And all that's going to happen is
it's going to affect your life because you're going to lose the very freedom that you want.
And that makes me sad for you. Now, if you want me to, if you want to learn how to disagree with
me respectfully, oh, I'm all over that. I'll teach you how to do that. And I encourage you to listen
to Straight Talk for Kids program. Casey teaches kids how to do that. And then also the Defiance
and Disrespect program, because we teach kids how to disagree with their parents respectfully. And it's a very,
very cool thing. Some great stories on that there. So try these approaches. Don't react. Respond.
Give your kids wisdom. Be the grown-up. Don't take it personally. Start doing this and watch
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And that's what I want for you.
Hey, thank you very much.
If you need some help, just let us know.
Talk to you soon. Bye-bye.