Calm Parenting Podcast - Do This to Get Your Kids to Change
Episode Date: November 1, 2019Do THIS to Get Your Kid to Change: What Your Kids Wish They Could Tell YouHave you stopped enjoying your child because you are too busy trying to get him to change his behavior, study habits, and atti...tude? Kirk shows you how to get your kids to be responsible for themselves—but it’s different than the way you’ve been doing it! Kirk gives you powerful insight into what your kids are feeling and wish they could actually say to you. Want to change your family? Listen to this one.Get 50% OFF EVERYTHING we have ever created to change your family this week ONLY at https://www.celebratecalm.com/products/ Limited time only. Need help? Email Casey@CelebrateCalm.com or call 888-506-1871. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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celebratecalm.com. Hey, just wanted to share with you today some insight into what your kids are
thinking, what's really inside of them. And this kind of came out while I was speaking on this last
trip. And we have an awesome opportunity because we're on the East Coast. We're in the middle of
the country in Kansas City, down to Arkansas, to Dallas, all the way to California and the west coast. And so it gives us a really unique insight because we get to talk to
parents all over the country, big cities, little towns, wealthier people, poorer people, middle
class people, blue collar, white collar, everybody, religious people, non-religious people. And you get
to see kind of all across the country, parents struggle with the same
exact things, no matter what kind of home they come from, what kind of neighborhood they're in.
We all struggle with the same thing, especially with strong willed kids. And what becomes very
crystal clear is that our anxiety as parents is our biggest enemy. Because we keep, you know,
if you keep lecturing, if your kids can't live up to your potential, if you keep getting on your kids and micromanaging them, they will shut down.
They will resist.
They will give up.
They will become defiant.
And it just happens.
And it's just driven home.
I got a really cool email.
One of the best parts of traveling is we get to speak to so many people, but also a lot of men.
My dad's come out to the workshop, So I just got this email from a dad and he's like, hey, one of those skeptical guys you
talked about, right? Like I'm not going to come and you know, my son's just difficult. He needs
to change. And the guy, dad said, you know, it's kind of that guy that you talked about who comes
home from work and her Legos all over the floor and everything's kind of out of order and the kids aren't listening or sitting at the dinner table. My son can't stand,
sit still, and I get on him. And he said, it just does this every single night. And what I realized
when you were speaking, this is what dad's saying is, you're right because at work, at the office,
when things aren't working, I immediately think like,
okay, we need to change our strategy, our tactics. Let's look at this from a fresh perspective.
But at home, I kept doing the same thing again and again and again, hoping that one day my kids
would listen. And he, like me, found he was drawing apart from his kids, right? Because they
wouldn't listen. He'd get upset at them.
He'd be like, well, they just need to change. And he could justify it like we all can because our
kids are difficult. But he said, I went ahead, I bought your package of CDs, started listening to
them. And he said, I have to admit, they're really good and they're helping. So here's the one thing
he passed on that I wanted to pass on. I do this a lot when I'm talking to parents of younger kids of saying, hey, do the opposite of what you normally do when
you come home from work. Because if you come home from work and you're frustrated and you just come
in the house and you start picking on everything that's wrong, your wife's not going to be like,
thanks so much for coming in and bringing some joy into the home and pointing out everything that's going wrong, right?
It's not helpful.
So a couple things I've mentioned is, and this is what the dad said, he said, I came home and I did that take a knee thing like a quarterback does.
Because a good quarterback comes into the huddle, takes a knee, and by changing his body posture and his tone of voice, begins to lead his team with confidence. And a
dad said, I've started to do that. I walk in the home and I take a knee and I've noticed my kids
come to me instead of running away from me and scattering. I've noticed that they listen to me
more because I come in. And what I usually model at the workshops is come in and say, I take a knee.
And the first thing I point out is
a couple things I like about my kids, what they've done. Start with something positive, and then I can
say, hey guys, here's the deal. I've got a really busy afternoon coming up. Here's where I need your
help. You and I, we're going to get started on dinner. Listen, Jason, if you go and help mom out with X,
we'll be done. Boom. We'll be able to take off for your Taekwondo class or we'll have time to play whatever it is.
But watch the tone of voice.
I'm leading, right?
And I'm leading from a place of calm, authoritative leadership.
And I want dads to know that and moms too.
I want you to be very authoritative.
But just coming in and getting upset and yelling doesn't make you the authority figure or authoritative.
It makes you out of control.
And then your kids know that they're in complete control, right?
I've used this example as well.
With this dad, what he talked about was calming his kids down, that all he ever did before was,
you guys need to calm down.
Stop it right now or else.
And everybody used to get more upset. So he came in
and as he heard on the CDs, I do this thing with pushups, right? Where when kids are getting upset,
sometimes with little kids, I'll do something very physical. But what I love is for a dad to
come home sometimes at night, mom as well, say, guys, listen, I'm frustrated. Work was tough today. Boss was all over me.
Traffic backed up. You guys do some push-ups with me. And you know what the dad in the home or the
mom in the home has just modeled? When I have a bad day, when things don't go my way, when I'm
frustrated and irritated, instead of slamming doors and yelling, my dad does push-ups. And I guarantee you,
when you as the adult begin doing these things and controlling yourself, your kids will begin
controlling yourselves. And that's what this dad wrote. And he said, you know, I never looked at
it that way, but it's really coming home that when I control myself, my kids follow, my home
is changing. And it's not by changing my kids. It's by controlling myself.
So I wrote back, kudos to dad.
If you need help with anything at any time, just write to me because I love helping anybody
who invests in our stuff and is working at this.
I will help you through this, through all the different stages.
And I hope that I'm still talking to this dad as his kids become teenagers.
He's got this really close bond with his kids, but they're pushing the limits, right? And so I also wrote to the dad and I said, hey, swatch this week. We're
doing a special on all those CDs that you bought, plus other stuff. It's going to be cheaper than
you bought. He wrote back and he said, I don't care. It's worth every penny. Nothing else,
none of the testing therapy, none of the other stuff we did with our kids ever worked. So I don't care that it's cheaper this week.
So I'm happy because my family's changing and I'm changing.
So thank you for that, Dad, and for all the moms and dads out there who are working on it.
This is so hard.
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So let's get into this.
Some things I wanted to share with you that kind of came out when I'm,
when I was speaking, some things I want you to hear about your kids as if they could talk to
you about these issues, as if they had enough self-awareness to say these things, because what
your kids usually say is, I'm not doing it. You're dumb. You're stupid. Or they just sit there and
they ignore you completely, right? Which is
sometimes even worse, right? And they come out with disrespectful, defiant things they tell you,
and then you react to it and it becomes an awful mess. So here, I want you to hear some things
from your kid's voice as if they could tell you these things, because I think it will be a little bit more impactful that way.
So let's start with this one because I think that it's really foundational
and what most of your kids would tell you if they could, right? And here's one of them. This could
be kids of any age. Mom, dad, I know what you want. I know what you're after because I see
how you live your lives. But I just want some space to try to do things without you nitpicking
and micromanaging and lecturing me on how to do it better. Please just give me some space. Let me
figure it out myself. Let me make some mistakes. Let me figure it out myself, right? Let me make some mistakes. Let me
figure it out. And if I were saying it in different words for some of your other kids, and I don't want
this to offend you, but sometimes I like to say things in more blunt ways because for some of you
it helps get it through to you. You know, some of your older kids could tell you this honestly. You
know what they tell you? Would you please just back the F off?
And again, not to be offensive, but some of you need to hear it that way.
Back the F off and let your kids have a little bit of space and room to figure some things out for themselves.
I promise you, many of your kids resist you because you just won't back off
and because they want the space, but they don't know yet how to say this. Like I taught these
words, not back the F off, but I, cause he already apparently knew those, but I taught those words
to Casey so he could come and say, dad, I just need a little bit of space. I know what you want. I'm
going to be okay in life, but could you just back off a little bit? Because I know what you want.
I know how to do it. I just want to kind of figure out my own way to do it, right? That's wanting
ownership of your life. That's a really good thing for your kids to have. Here's another one.
Hey, mom, dad, I don't feel like I can ever actually please you.
Because every time I try, it's not good enough. So somewhere along the line, I decided,
why even try anymore? It seems like you don't even enjoy me or even try to understand me anymore.
You just want me to be a little you, and I know that won't work.
Look, I really want you to drill down on this one a little bit, because as I was
kind of fleshing that out, that's what's happened, hasn't it? You've stopped enjoying your child.
You stopped really having a relationship with your child, because you've gotten so consumed with making sure that your
child is doing X, Y, and Z exactly the way you want it. Or you've just gotten consumed with them
doing X, Y, and Z. Because some of you are happy with just like, as long as you're doing anything,
I'm good with it. But along the way, you stopped actually enjoying and having a relationship with that child. And that child
became a project to you, someone you need to manipulate in a way. You won't call it manipulation
because you're just trying to get them to do things a certain way. But what you're really
doing is trying to manipulate that child, figuring out some special word or consequence that's going
to get through to your child so that they actually just
do what you want them to do. And see, consequences and manipulation and trying to coerce and bribe
and threaten kids doesn't work. Relationships change behavior. And you have to go back to
the relationship. And the reason I put this into the voice of your child is this.
They can feel it, and they know it.
Because when you walk into the room, and be honest with yourself,
when you walk into the room where they are,
you're not usually interested in them as a human being.
You're interested, your agenda is to get them to take out the trash, to do their homework, to have a good attitude, to do something, to make a good choice, to change something that they're doing.
You have an agenda and that's become the sole focus of your job as a parent right now is to get your kids to do certain things. And I know why you do that, because you love them,
and you want them to be successful in life, and you know how to be successful in life. You want
them to listen to you. But watch, along the way, they've messed up your agenda. And now everything's
about your agenda. It's about your own anxiety as a parent, because you don't see them living up to
their potential. You don't see them doing what
you want them to do. All of this is your issue, by the way, your anxiety you have to control.
And what's deep down in there, if you really drill down, is how it makes you feel as a parent,
right? Because like, well, if they're not successful, that reflects on me. What am I doing
wrong? Some of you feel guilty for it.
Some of you feel so much pressure. And so all that pressure now is dumping on this child
who's sitting in a room or doing something. And all of a sudden this adult comes in
and starts all this weight of your anxiety begins to dump on them. And they can feel it. They know
it. And that's why they resist you.
And what they know deep down is, you are not really interested in me as a human being.
I've just become someone that you want to, in a way, control and influence and manipulate in
some ways. Does that make sense? I guarantee that's what's happening in a lot of your homes.
And look, if someone did that to you, you would resist as well. And that's what's happening in a lot of your homes. And look, if someone did that
to you, you would resist as well. And that's why your kids are resisting. That's why we say the
quickest way to change your child's behavior is to first control your own and to control your own
anxiety, right? That's what I want from this. See if this makes sense. Let's go to even like a
toddler, right? Let's say a toddler could actually speak because we're at the last
workshop we were at. We had this, speaking at, we had this happen. I've had this really good mom and
dad and they have a four-year-old son and you can see it happening already at age four where the dad
is coming home from work and the son's not doing what he's supposed to be doing. And the mom
started to cry as I started to talk to her husband about this, because what the mom sees is this
relationship is already going downhill because this guy needs a lot of order and structure in
the home. And this is not limited to guys. Moms are the same way. We're all, it's not you, it's us.
We are all, me as a dad, even as an older dad, we're all the same way. We do the same way. We're all, it's not you, it's us. We are all, me as a dad, even as an older dad,
we're all the same way. We do the same things. But this dad is starting to destroy his relationship
with a little toddler because the toddler isn't being effective and productive and efficient
at his four-year-old job. And so the dad is already projecting out into the future, well, if at age four,
he can't do X, how is he ever going to be successful as an adult? That's part of it.
The other part is at age four, they're irritating because they leave stuff all over the place and
they're not efficient. And dinnertime's not a lot of fun all the time, right? Because you got to sit
still and you've got to... And it's irritating the dad.
And instead of controlling and changing himself, the dad's trying to change the four-year-old.
And I know where this is headed.
So does the mom.
So she was actually like crying right in front of her husband as I was talking to the dad about this with great compassion.
Like, dude, you've got to chill a little bit with this.
You've got to step back or you're going to ruin this relationship, right? Both with your toddler and with your wife.
So a toddler would say to you, look, this world is all new and fascinating to me. Everything's
interesting. It draws me. I feel compelled to explore, to bump my head, to try new things, to experiment. But it's like
you want me to somehow fit into your grown-up world because you can't deal with my disorder.
And you're always, I know you're telling me, I'm rebellious. No, I'm just learning and I'm curious and I'm exploring.
Please don't rob me of my childhood.
Don't rob me.
I'm four, I'm three, I'm five, I'm seven.
Don't rob me of my childhood, right?
And I'll add this to it if your kids could say this.
You were able to do all these things.
You were able to go outside and explore with no adults around and do all these things, but you won't let me do the same things that you were able to do.
Parents, this is very true. When we were kids, we had a lot of space in our lives to explore.
Our parents did not micromanage us, unless some of yours did because they were
terrible, and you resent them for it, right? But most of our parents, they weren't actually that
involved. They just let it go do stuff because here's what they knew. We're raising you in a
good home. We're modeling good behavior for you, and we figure at the end of the day, you'll figure
your stuff out, and you'll turn out okay. And you know what the truth is?
95% of us, we turned out okay.
And we're not even giving our own kids the same opportunities that our own parents did.
We're not.
And we're robbing our kids of their childhood.
And I want you to hear it from the toddler's voice.
Please don't rob me of my childhood.
I need to be innocent.
I need to play. I need to be innocent. I need to play.
I need to explore.
Stop shoving homework down my throat when I'm six years old, right?
Because you didn't do that, but now you're wanting me to do it, right?
And stop robbing me because of your own false expectations.
Please don't crush my spirit because of your anxiety because that's not right. Please hear that.
Here's another thing that I want you to hear. Listen, mom and dad, I don't wake up every day
thinking, hmm, how could I get in trouble more and get everybody around me to be irritated to hate me
and lose all my stuff, right? I guarantee they're not waking up thinking, what are five different ways
I can get in trouble and cause? It seems like they are because they're in trouble a lot.
That's not what's happening. If they could tell you, they could say, I'm not just trying to be
difficult. It's just like everything is difficult for me because life feels like it's swimming upstream for me. School's hard for me. Going to
school every day, sitting still all day long, memorizing information that's not important to me
that I probably won't ever use in life. Memorizing information for a standardized test,
arbitrary information that I don't care about, is hard for
me. I'm not always great at connecting with kids my own age, because I'm better with older kids
and adults, little kids with animals, kids my own age, I struggle to connect with them.
That's hard for me. So my entire childhood is based on doing things I'm not good at doing.
You put me out in the real world, I'm pretty awesome.
But going to school and doing normal kid stuff, it's pretty hard for me. So it feels like I'm swimming upstream. And you, look, a lot of you as adults, you don't know what that feels like.
And that's another reason I want you to listen to the Strong Willed Child program and the No BS
program and get that package so you can understand what your kids are going through.
So you can understand. Look, if they could talk to you and say, I'm not just trying to be a jerk in life. Have you ever stepped back and thought, it's not that fun to always be in trouble. I know
that my mom doesn't like me sometimes. My dad doesn't like me. My brothers and sisters don't
like me. And I know it feels like everybody's teaming up on me. And I know everybody's saying
like, well, we wouldn't have to team up on you if you weren't so difficult. But I don't wake up
every day hoping and trying to be difficult. It's just that things are difficult and nobody ever
takes this, nobody ever slows down enough to actually listen to me and understand how difficult
certain things are for me. So you misjudge my motives all the time saying, well, you're just being lazy.
It's not that I'm being lazy.
It's that certain things are really, really difficult,
and certain things I just don't care about.
But when I do care about them, I can work really hard, and I can focus well.
But please stop misunderstanding me. Otherwise, I'm just really hard and I can focus well, but please stop misunderstanding me.
Otherwise, I'm just going to shut down because it feels like you spend all of your energy
trying to fix what's wrong with me. What would it feel like for you, mom or dad,
if every day you went to the office and everybody just tried to fix what's wrong with you.
Because no one notices the positives.
Nobody notices what I'm doing wrong.
And how would you feel if every day everybody picked out every single thing that you did wrong?
Because I go to school and that's what happens.
And I come home from school and that's what happens all evening.
So from morning to midnight, here's what life feels like for me.
Something's wrong with you because you're not living up to anyone's expectations.
So we're just, we're not even going to enjoy you as a child anymore.
We're not even going to have a relationship with you.
And watch, it becomes very unconditional.
We're not really going to have a good relationship with you
until you begin to start behaving better, applying yourself, doing better in school, living up to our expectations.
If we're honest with ourselves, that's what it's devolved into. And I know because that's how it was with my own son. He became a project, a thing that I had to, in a way, try to manipulate and control and change so that he could satisfy my own anxiety.
And along the way, I stopped enjoying my son.
And you know what happens when that occurs?
Your kids know it and they become defiant and they shut down because they know,
I can't really please you.
I want you to work on yourself.
I promise you if you change yourself, your kids will change.
And you'll begin to understand them.
You'll know how to motivate them.
You'll know how to discipline them in ways that don't erode the relationship. Look, good
discipline will ultimately lead to a more trusting relationship with your child. Your kids want your
discipline. They need your discipline. They need the boundaries, but they don't want it the way
that you do it now because it's too arbitrary and it feels like you're just trying to manipulate and control them.
So do it differently. Focus on the relationship and above all, focus on controlling yourself first.
I promise you, I can show you how to do that. I encourage you, go to celebratecalm.com.
Look under the products page. You're going to see. We're not doing a coupon code. We're not making you do any extra work.
On the website for the next week, we have this program where it's everything we have ever recorded
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We will show you in great detail in very practical ways.
Like that dad said, this is very practical stuff that you can do.
It will change your home. It will change your home.
It will change your relationships, and then it will change your child's behavior, but it begins
with you. I encourage you to do that. Keep working at this. If we can help you in any way, if we can
help you emotionally with your kids, financially, reach out to us. We will help you. Email kccasey
at celebratecom.com. That's my son. He understands all of this and he will help you walk you through
this. I will walk you through this. Our phone number is 888-506-1871. For those of you in
Northern Virginia, we're coming your way next week. And then we go up to Michigan for a foster care conference,
both in the western part of the state.
We're going to be in Grand Rapids.
And then we're going to be talking to parents outside of Detroit.
So look that up on the website.
You can come out and join us.
Thank you all for being good parents.
I know this is hard stuff.
I know I hit you pretty hard at times, but I know you can take it. And it's good for you to hear from the voice of a child how to
change this stuff. Let's make the changes now. By the way, you know why we're doing the sale now?
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Start doing this now. I want you to hit this so that by the time the new year comes,
you have a new relationship with your child. If you're a mom out there and listening,
let your husband know, this is what I want for Christmas. I want a new house. I don't want to
have to manage your emotions. I don't have to manage everybody's emotions. I want a calm home
for Christmas. Let's do this. Hubby, forget shopping for all these different things for me. Get this for me. Let's get a new home. Let's work on this together. Get this for Christmas. Let's do this. Hubby, forget shopping for all these different things for me.
Get this for me. Let's get a new home. Let's work on this together. Get this for yourself. Some of
you, you don't need to ask for something for Christmas. Get it yourself because you know
nobody's going to get you what you want. That's called being assertive anyway. Anyway, love you
all. If we can help you, just let us know. Thanks so much. Bye-bye.