Calm Parenting Podcast - Grumpy, Complaining, Tantrumy Kids from Ages 2-22?
Episode Date: December 1, 2024Grumpy, Complaining, Tantrumy Kids from Ages 2-22? Do you have a child who can be grumpy, throws tantrums, complains about everything that’s wrong, controls the emotional tide of your home, whose mo...od does determine your mood? What if your child wakes up miserable and makes everyone else miserable? Kirk gives you action steps and scripts in this powerful podcast with lots of insight into strong-willed kids…from toddler through teen years! Our Christmas Sale Begins TODAY! Visit https://celebratecalm.com/calm-christmas/ to purchase the Get Everything Package at the lowest prices of the year. Get practical strategies that really work with your strong-willed kids. AG1 AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3 & K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://drinkag1.com/calm to see what gift you can get this week! HAPPY MAMMOTH It's time to feel like yourself again, Moms! For a limited time, you can get 15% off on your entire first order at https://store.happymammoth.com/ with the code CALM at checkout. OneSkin OneSkin is the world’s first skin longevity company. Get started today with 15% off using code KIRK at https://oneskin.co. MeUndies Kids To get 20% off your first order of MeUndies Kids, plus free shipping, go to https://www.meundies.com/calmpod and enter promo code calmpod. MeUndies—comfort from the outside in. Skylight Frame Get $20 OFF your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go to https://www.SkylightFrame.com/CALM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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slash special. So do you have a child who can be grumpy, who verbalizes everything that's wrong, who
often controls the emotional tide of your home, whose mood does determine your mood?
What if your child wakes up first thing just miserable and makes everyone else miserable?
Well, good, because you're not alone.
I want to give you some tools to deal with grumpy moody kids
So that's what we're going to discuss on today's episode the calm parenting podcast. So welcome
This is Kirk Martin founder of celebrate calm and you can find us at celebrate calm comm where we have our Christmas sale going on
so I'm
Going to ask a favor of you
I changed all of this at the last minute because I kept getting different emails and I just wanted to ask a favor of you. I changed all of this at the last minute
because I kept getting different emails
and I just wanted to take a different path
and I'm going to ask you to give me some freedom, I guess,
to not have everything perfectly scripted out,
to kind of go with my gut in how I say certain things.
And so this is going to apply to all ages,
from toddlers all the
way to teens everyone in between and if you were expecting me to say well Kirk
you know I think that just a good lecture is what we need to do well
you're probably mistaken because there's no lecture that's going to work look no
kids gonna be like well kids you, we just need to be grateful
for everything we have.
And your kids are never going to say,
Mom, Dad, you know what?
You're so right about that
because I see you live that out in your daily life.
No, lectures don't work.
You know what does work?
Model it.
Model this for your kids.
Deal with your own emotions.
If you want your kids to be grateful,
live a grateful life. If you want them to be generous, be generous. So I'm going to go through
this and I've got basically kind of four pages of pieces of a sheet laid out. That didn't make sense,
but just roll with me on this one. So four parts. I'm gonna go through kind of the age groups from little kids all
the way up to us as adults. So let's take toddlers and little ones. And by the way,
not all of these... it's not like you can only do this for toddlers. All of these
strategies and ideas will apply to kids of all ages. I'm just trying to hit it
from different angles where these things tend to manifest a little bit
more. So toddlers and little ones, you know if I've got a grumpy kid, one of the
first things I might do is check out and see if there are some gut issues going
on, some allergies, if they have eczema. You know why? Because when I
don't feel good physically, I'm just a little bit more irritable. And so
irritants can cause people to be grumpy. You may check out a, you know, check with
your pediatrician, but for some of you, maybe a functional medicine doctor who
does check out gut issues because a lot of
our kids do struggle with that. They have anxiety like I do. Anxiety lives in the
stomach. Look, if you have eczema, I know a lot of kids we worked with, I'd ask a
question of like, hey do they drink a lot of fruit juices? And the answer is always
yeah. Well there's sugar and that causes inflammation and that bothers the
skin and if your skin's
bothered and you're itchy all the time you're probably not going to be as patient with your
siblings or parents. So always look for the root issue. You know these are kids who are easily
frustrated. I'd encourage you with kids of all ages sensory touch and exercise is really important because
when I'm kind of in a grumpy mood or even when Casey is, you know what we do?
We go for a big hike. Why? Because when you're working and sweating you're kind
of working off that icky feeling inside. So here's the big one for little kids.
They whine and they complain and they throw tantrums.
We have been through, in fact, in the latest podcast,
we did one on kids who are melting down in public.
But here's the difference between a tantrum and a meltdown.
See, a meltdown is something very emotional.
They're not even in control, right?
They go from zero to a hundred very, very quickly. But a tantrum is usually, at least at the beginning, it's
very rational. I want something. You won't give it to me. So I'm going to just have a
tantrum in aisle three in the grocery store in our home. And the whole idea, the
purpose of a tantrum is I want to wear you down mom or dad
until you give in. If it's in public I can do that more quickly because you get embarrassed.
So here are two phrases I want you to begin saying to yourself. You can say this to your kids.
You don't have to just read the moment but at least internalize. Hey your mood does not
determine or change my mood
Your behavior does not determine or change
My behavior because if their mood and behavior does change
What you do how you act how you react? Well we all know this. Then they're in complete
control of you. They basically have power over your emotions. And I've handled this in our programs
in different places in a lot more detail. But begin to really work on that of saying inside, I refuse to give power over my emotions, my mood, my
responses, my behavior to anyone or anything else because that gives you
ultimate power in life. And with tantrums, I will tell you there's no need for a
consequence for a child throwing a tantrum. The consequence is that they don't get what they were tantruming about.
That's the consequence. You just don't get what you were throwing yourself on the floor for.
That's the consequence is that it just doesn't work and instead I invite them and even
matter-of-fact tone hey when you're when you're done with this if you want to
talk to me we're like a grown-up if you want to have a conversation if you want
a problem solve I'm all over that but what I wanted kids to know especially
we had 1,500 kids in our home is your tantrums don't affect me. I am okay with you throwing
yourself on the floor. I am okay with you having a tantrum in public. Watch this is
a great phrase. My job as a parent is not dependent on how you behave but how I
behave. We could stop the podcast right there and just focus on that but we'll
keep going. Look quickly many of you have little kids are gonna be like, I hate
you mommy. Look, that's purely manipulative. They're not mad at you.
They're just frustrated with themselves. They're not getting what they want and
they're looking for some clarity. So don't take it personally. They're just
saying that because they're frustrated. So don't react. Okay, as we get a little bit older,
you're going to find that many of you have kids who will complain a lot. They will vent.
I've talked about this before where you go to, you take your kids to Disney World and they complain like the entire week
every single day. And then a couple weeks later, the grandparents come over and they're like,
Grandma, Grandpa, let me tell you about Disney World it was the best vacation
ever and you're like what so a couple things I want you to know your strong
will kids and kids on the spectrum often vent because that's how they process
their disappointment and I wouldn't take it too seriously. It is a form of, for many of these kids,
catastrophizing. Oh, this day is going to be awful. I hate it when that happens. And they verbally
process what's going on inside of them. Is it annoying? Absolutely it is. It should bother you.
See, I'm validating you're being annoyed, but I don't want you to react to it.
Here are a few things you could do. You could give intense validation.
Oh man, I hate it when that happens too. Oh man, that is frustrating when things don't go right like that.
See, sometimes that lets them know they're being heard and that you're taking it seriously so
to speak. You could say, hey you know what after school I'm going to give you
seven and a half minutes in order to vent. Tell me everything you don't like
about school, everything that you're unhappy about. Seven and a half minutes
but after that's up then we problem solve. Seven and a half minutes is an
arbitrary time limit. I like interesting time limits. It puts some boundaries on it. It's not too short.
It's not too long. Moms and dads, you don't have to listen to every single
thing your kids say. Okay, this is not like you're their therapist and you have
to listen for 20 hours a day. You can put boundaries on things. So you also have
to think about like is it are your kids really miserable
or are they just catastrophizing and it's okay that you ask them, hey I can hear you saying that,
are you really upset about this or are you just processing your disappointment frustration? That
would be a great question to ask them so that they then know for the rest of their lives, oh I
tend to be prone to just saying verbalizing and processing because then
they can tell their future spouse, hey don't get upset, don't take it too
seriously, I just process this way. And you can also tell them,
Hey, if this is a grandma's birthday party, hey,
this isn't the time for that because everything's not about you, right? That's perfectly fine to you to do.
You can also do this. And I really like this a lot.
Many of you have kids who get very,
very frustrated and then they lose it.
And I don't know if I've ever really
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that you get very frustrated because what that really means underneath is you
get a vision of doing something. You get ideas and then you
want to carry out and implement that idea but you don't always have the tools
to do it the right way and it doesn't turn out and then you get really
frustrated and what that means is you're conscientious. It means you care about
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So let's start on those things.
Now what do we do when we get to the teen and tween year?
Okay, for your older kids, expect grumpiness. Expect some attitude. It would be weird if
a teen or tween always had a good attitude. They've got hormonal changes,
they've got social media stuff going on. It's that they're wrestling with
this whole thing of like they want their independence but they don't know how to get it and so it's hard. So I want you to begin smiling at times as if you are
expecting this. Let go of taking everything personally. If you're doing
too much for your kids and that's causing resentment, well that's your
issue. Stop doing so much for them. If they have attitude, you have every right to say,
hey, just want you to know that attitude, that tone, that's not gonna work for you.
And then you create some space and give them a chance to come back and do it differently.
Look, if you have deeper things going on, that's for a separate podcast.
But for the most part, here's what I really want you to do with teenagers.
Be the one person, the one
thing in their life that is drama-free. No drama, because their whole life with
their friends, with everything is all with their hormones, it's all drama. So be
that person they can count on. Sit in the discomfort of their grumpiness
while you're driving next to
them or while they're kind of moping around the house. I know there's
discomfort there. I want you to create the environment in which they feel free
to come to you and open up and talk to you, but if they think there you're going
to lecture them or get on them about something, they won't come to you. So work on really sitting silently next to them in the midst of that discomfort and their
moodiness without trying to fix it.
Again, we could stop the podcast right there.
That's enough to work on.
Look, there's this whole thing during those years of they want the freedom, but there's
got to be accountability. And I remember back in the day with Casey, I
had a rule with him with his smartphone, which is anytime I could walk up to him,
hold out my hand with a palm up, and he had to place his phone in my hands. Well,
that implied there's a lot of trust there because when I look through his
phone, I would see inappropriate things
that he had said to his best friends. Why? Because he's a teenage boy and that required that I not overreact to him
because he was just being a teenage boy.
But I also wanted to make sure there weren't images other things going on that could hurt him.
Now the advantage you have as a parent is that there are so many really cool apps out there that you can utilize and I've
gotten so much good feedback. A couple weeks ago we did that podcast on
screens and I mentioned Bright Canary. It's a really cool app because you don't
even have to look at your child's phone. You can see what they're doing online right
from your own phone. You don't have to like monitor it 24-7. I don't want you to
do that. But Bright Canary gives you a summary of their online activity. It's
kind of like an early alert system because part of your goal is to prevent
them from doing things that hurt them because they're impulsive teenagers.
So look up those apps, look up Break Canary, it's fantastic and I've got a lot of great
feedback on that from parents.
So here's the other thing with your teenagers and I'll just repeat this, be no drama, sit
in that, in their grumpiness without trying to fix it. And let's see if you can find another adult
who can be a mentor of sorts for your teenagers because our Strongwell kids they don't like to
listen to their parents but they will listen to someone else and I've mentioned a million times
because I want you to keep doing it. Seniors, older people are very grounding with our
kids. They've been through everything already. They don't have a lot of drama
and so it's awesome if your kids can spend go down one afternoon a week and
spend some time with an older couple helping them around the house. It's a
really cool thing to do and I would use that with younger kids too.
Anyway, it's great for their emotions.
So your part in this, I mentioned this before,
that resentment part.
Of course you're resentful because our kids
have so many advantages and things that we didn't have.
But if you're doing too much for them
and not enough for yourself,
well then you have to flip that around
and start doing some things for yourself. well then you have to flip that around and start
doing some things for yourself. Stop doing everything for them. Resentment is
yours. Stop trying to fix your kids' moods. I know that kids being grumpy and in a
bad mood is annoying and you know what is equally as annoying? Us feeling the
need to fix other people's moods. Look, I'll share this with you. what is equally as annoying? Us feeling the need to fix
other people's moods. Look I'll share this with you. I've learned as I've gotten
older in marriage that one of the things that maybe causes me to be the most
patient is let's just take it out of me so it's not so personal but you know
what I'm saying. Let's say you're married to someone who is very very sensitive
They're a sensitive person. Well, they feel things deeply and things affect them and maybe you're the spouse who
Doesn't feel things as deeply and you're a little bit more rational. Well, your initial response is usually going to be to say
Oh, honey, there's no need to be upset about that. It's going to work out perfectly fine. And so when you do that, when I do that, when
I used to do that, you know what I was really saying to my spouse? I can't handle your emotions.
I need you to change. I need you to deal with your emotions because they're making me really
uncomfortable. You know what maturity is and you'll find as you get older, so get a head start on this.
Not feeling compelled to change your spouse's or your child's emotions or
their moods. It is really hard but you know what happens when you try to change
them? It causes fights and then everybody's frustrated
and it doesn't ever work.
Then everybody is moody and grumpy.
Work on that.
Stop needing your child to not be grumpy.
Work on yourself because we've talked about this.
The quickest way to change, look at everybody,
not just your kids behavior, your spouse,
friends is to first work on yourself and get mastery of this. So let's wrap this up because
it's holidays. I'm trying to keep these short for little kids. And remember these phrases. Your mood
does not change my mood. Your behavior does not determine or change my behavior
My job as a parent is not dependent on how you behave
But how I behave that's golden
Don't be manipulated by these kids. You don't have to give into them at all
Put boundaries all around their venting
Put boundaries around their venting. Give them opportunities to work off the stress.
Get to the root of it.
And with your teens and tweens,
no drama, no drama.
Stop trying to fix everybody else
and just work on controlling yourself.
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and not coddle you as parents right i understand how hard this is and i have tremendous respect for
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We can do this you can do this. You're really good parents and I appreciate you. Okay, talk to you next time
Love you all. Bye. Bye