Calm Parenting Podcast - Kids Not Listening? Don't Mess With Me.
Episode Date: February 18, 2019Your child whines, negotiates, argues, says, "One more minute" or just refuses to do what you ask, then calls you mean. In this podcast, Kirk demonstrates the tone and attitude you need in order to ge...t your kids to listen to and respect you...without yelling, explaining, begging, or giving empty threats. Want to take advantage of the special offer Kirk mentioned in the podcast? Click here: https://www.celebratecalm.com/calm30-free/ Have questions? Want Kirk and Casey to come to your school or church? Contact Casey@CelebrateCalm.com and he'll get you a proposal within 24 hours! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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living room and says this to his two daughters. Hey girls, we've
got a new tradition in our home. One night a week, you're going to see a candle lit in the kitchen.
And you know what that means? It means I'm having dinner alone that night with my wife and you two
are not invited. Now I know some of you are going to be like, that sounds so mean. It's not mean at all.
Here's what I'm letting my daughters know. That one night a week when they see the candle lit
means I'm having dinner alone with my wife. You know why? Because I want to, and because she's
important, and because we're the adults, and we get to do things like that, and our marriage is
important. And here's what I want the two girls to know. I want them to see modeled that my wife
is a priority to me. You know what else I want them to know? That I mean it. And I'll tell them,
you guys are going to eat early. We're going to fix you your mac and cheese and chicken nuggets
because that's all you eat anyway. You can sit in the living room. You can go downstairs and go to
your room. You can play quietly. But if I hear a peep out of you, you will rue the day that you interrupted this time with my wife. And you know
the tone that I want to send is this. Don't mess with me. Now, sometimes at the live workshops,
I'll say it like this. Don't F with me. Now, I don't use that word. So don't go home and say,
this guy said we get to come home and tell our kids not to F with us. Now, I don't use that word. So don't go home and say, this guy said we get to
come home and tell our kids not to F with us. That's not what I said. It's the tone and it's
the attitude that's incredibly important. And we've gotten way too sweet with our kids where
we're asking them for permission to be adults, where we're saying, sweetie, baby, mommy needs your help. Are you
ready to go to the store? We have to go now. Okay. And we're talking like this and we're afraid of
our kids sometimes. And we're being too sweet the other way. And you know what? They don't respect
the tone. They don't respect us. Now, listen, here's the opposite of this because I don't want
this. I don't want you coming into home saying, you know what?
You strong-willed child, you're the reason we're not happy in our marriage anymore,
so we're going to have dinner alone, and you guys just leave us alone, right?
I'm not saying that.
I'm not yelling at them.
I'm not whining.
But I'm also not complaining.
Look, I'm also not explaining everything.
I'm not giving the useless little lecture.
Girls, it's really important for mommy and daddy to spend time together and connect.
Because if we don't, then I'm not doing any of that.
I'm just letting them know very clearly, this is what I mean.
These are my intentions.
This is what I'm going to do.
And then if you don't do what I say,
listen, I'm just going to follow through. See, I just got an email from a mom. Oh, by the way,
this is Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. You can find us at CelebrateCalm.com. I just
thought I'd start with like a little story instead of doing the whole intro and all that stuff.
But you can find us at Celebrate Calm. If you need help with anything,
just email my son. He is the strong-willed one. His name is Casey, C-A-S-E-Y at CelebrateCalm.com.
It's cool because I get to see all these emails come through, hey, I was listening to your dad's
podcast. And they're all emailing Casey. And it's really cool because we love helping people and just so
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If you're struggling financially, look, some of our favorite emails,
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Oh, a couple other things very quickly.
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So back to our topic at hand.
I just got an email from a mom.
She's got like an eight-year-old daughter.
And she's like, oh, she just doesn't listen.
I'll say get ready for bed.
When I get back a few minutes later, she's watching TV.
I have to repeat myself all the time, like putting dirty clothes in the hamper.
And it never works until we raise our voices and just yell.
And it's exhausting.
You know, I ask her to do something.
She's like, but mom, right?
And then every time we're strict, she complains that we're being mean.
And so this mom actually said that she heard her daughter telling her friend,
my mom never means it when she tells me to do something.
Yeah, you know why?
Because you've got to, you know what, I can't say it.
I had this written down.
I said, you know, you got to be the effing grown up and be the parent.
And I'm not, look, I know how hard this is.
And so I'm not getting on this mom about this.
But stop being afraid of your children and their reaction to you. Because you know what
ends up happening? The eight-year-old ends up running the ship, ends up running to home,
and that doesn't make them feel safe. Now on the surface for this eight-year-old, she's like, yep,
I'm in control. Mom doesn't really mean it. Dad just blusters in, doesn't really follow through
or do anything. And so it sounds like, hey, cool for
them, but it's not. It makes them feel very unsafe. They're not equipped to be running the home and
running the show at age eight or 10 or 12 or 14 or 16. That's what your job is. And it makes them
feel safe when they have a parent who is in control of themselves, right? So look, the attitude, it's tone of voice, even matter of fact tone.
Now I'll tell you that is why I want people to listen to our CDs. I know that sounds self-serving
because we sell them, but I've known this after doing this for 20 years. The greatest transformation
we get in the home is when people listen to our CDs constantly. Keep them on in the car,
download them to your iPhone, and just have them playing because you will learn to master this tone.
This tone says, I'm in complete control of myself.
I don't need you to be happy.
I don't need you to have a good attitude.
I don't.
I just want you to do what I asked you to do.
And that's when things started to change with my own son who was extremely strong-willed.
I remember the talk.
I remember where we were.
We were going through the drive-thru with the talk. I remember where we were. We
were going through the drive-thru at Taco Bell. This is when we didn't eat healthy. And we were
going through the drive-thru at Taco Bell. And it was a defining moment in our relationship because
Casey was giving me a hard time. And I remember looking over and saying, look, I don't need you
to like me. I'm not responsible for your happiness. I'm not. You are. I'm responsibly happy myself to
be thoughtful and kind and giving. I'm responsible to be in control of myself. But your happiness,
I can't control that. And if you have a bad attitude, it's okay. You can have a bad attitude.
I don't need you to have a bad attitude, a good attitude. All I want you to do is know this. When I tell you something, I mean it, right?
I keep my promises. If I promise you that I'm going to do X, I'm just going to do it. I'm not
going to lecture you 14 times. I'm not going to shame you. I'm not going to try to convince you
because I can't always tell you what you're going to do, son, but I can always tell you what I'm going to do.
And look, it's not personal at all. I just want you to know you can count on me. And when I tell
you something, I really do mean it. Does that make sense? It's a really freeing thing. Look,
if you've got a little child who's coming to me like, I'm bored, I'm bored. You don't have to
explain how difficult your childhood was. You don't have to try don't have to explain how difficult your childhood was you don't have
to try to uh make them happy and say well honey why don't you do this or why don't you do that
it's not your job so you just look at your child and said oh you're bored i get it i would be too
fine with you being bored look i apologize for leading you to believe that I'd be like your personal clown or entertainer.
I apologize for leading you to believe that I buy you things and give in just to get you to
be quiet or stop pestering me. Not happening anymore. You know why? Because I believe you're
capable of overcoming this boredom yourself. Because here's what I know. When you get tired
of being bored and miserable,
which is your right to be, by the way, I know you're going to use that creative brain of yours
to come up with some interesting project. And then you're not going to be bored anymore.
Because I've seen it before. And I know you can do it. And it's really cool. And I can't wait for
this. And then you walk away. Walk away. Don't wait for their reaction. Don't wait for them to
confirm an assent to your brilliance, right, of your idea. Just let them know. You want the short
version? Yeah, you've got the right to be bored, but I believe you're capable of overcoming it
yourself. And then walk away. Walk away. Stop waiting. Stop getting drawn into long discussions and arguments over it.
Stop waiting for their reactions.
Stop asking for them to affirm you in the fact that you're the adult.
Just act like it.
Look, you're walking away for this reason.
You've got stuff to do.
You know why?
Because you're a busy person and you're never bored.
You don't have to say that because that's what we do.
I don't know how you can possibly be bored. I'm never bored because I take on too much
responsibility myself as the parent and I overschedule you. So look, that's not their
problem. That's your problem. The fact is you're not bored. You know why? Because you're a grown
adult. You do have responsibilities and it's about time you get on with your responsibilities
instead of messing around all the time with your child, trying to explain everything and trying to
make them happy and trying to make them see how brilliant you are. Just let them know what's going
to happen and then move on with your day. Some of you are single moms and single moms come up to me
all the time like, oh, but it's so different. It's look, you've got extra responsibility because
you've got to be both parents, right? And I get that you're exhausted and tired.
But in some ways, you have this advantage.
And I'll flip it around on you.
By the way, single moms, don't give in to your kids all the time.
You give them way too much stuff and you buy them stuff because you feel guilty because of the divorce.
The divorce probably wasn't all of your fault, right?
Except the fact that you married the wrong kind of man.
Just kidding. Just kidding. But let go of the guilt. It's done. You're divorced. Move on,
right? Stop feeling guilty for it and stop buying them extra stuff because buying them extra stuff
isn't what they want. They want experiences and they want to feel settled. And so single moms,
here's kind of your advantage. Look, I got a lot of stuff to do. I got to be moving here.
So I just expect you to pick up your stuff and I expect that to be done.
I expect the dishes to be put off, put away.
If you expect me to feed you and take you places, I expect you to pick up your stuff
and I expect you to load the dishwasher.
Boom, done.
Then you move on.
You've got stuff to do.
I know it's not that easy, but in some ways we make it too difficult on ourselves.
And after a while, when your kids learn that you're not going to stand there and negotiate and talk and explain, and you
know what else we do? We shame them all the time because once we're frustrated, we're like, you know,
when I was a kid, I did all these things, but you do nothing. Look, I don't like the snotty tone
either. The snotty tone is just as bad as anything
else. You know what? If I didn't have to tell you 14 times, don't do the snotty tone. Talk like
you're an adult. Talk like you would at the office. Give them directions. Move on. Lead your kids.
We're following our kids too much instead of leading our kids. You know what? One more thought too is this.
You've got to be in control of yourself.
Because watch the message we send.
I need you to behave.
I need you to do what I asked you to do.
I need you to behave because if you don't behave, I'm not sure I'm going to behave.
I need you to behave because if you can't control yourself, I'm not sure I'm going to behave. I need you to behave because if you can't control yourself,
I'm not sure I can control myself. That was the message I was sending to my son all the time
when he'd get emotional is, I'm actually dependent on you because if you don't do exactly what I say
and if you don't respond the right way, then I'm going to lose it. And that's a horrible place to
be in life and that's not leading your kids. So I want going to lose it. And that's a horrible place to be in life. And
that's not leading your kids. So I want you to learn how to lead your kids. It is why I want you
to listen to the CDs because we'll teach you on there. We'll give you confidence to know what to
say and how to say it. It's really good. It's really cool. And here's why. Good discipline should always lead to a closer, more trusting relationship with your child.
We will teach you how to turn power struggles into bonding moments.
And ultimately what I want is for kids to learn to trust you.
I want your kids to learn to trust you, whether they're two or four or eight or 12 or 18 or 25, so that
when they have struggles, they can come to you. I want your kids coming to you because they know
that you've got wisdom and that you're the grown-up and you can help them. So a couple things I do.
One, start learning how to control yourself. On the 30 Days to Calm program, we go through and we'll identify all of your triggers
and show you a different way to handle it so you can control yourself.
I want you to have the Discipline at Work CDs.
Why?
Because we teach you how to get your kids to listen the first time
and how to discipline in this even matter-of-fact tone
so that your kids actually respect you and do what you tell them to do.
Understanding your strong-willed child and stopping the power struggles.
I want your kids to actually listen to this CD because it's all about them and how their brains are wired.
They're different kids and you're going to have to discipline in a different way.
And they'll listen to you, but the way that they carry out instructions is going to look very different than your compliant kids do.
But it's very important to understand that these kids are not always being defiant. They're just different,
and they're wired differently, and they're cool kids. And final one, I want you to listen to the
Straight Talk for Kids CD. I want your kids to listen to this. This is what my son Casey, who
you're going to email or call, he recorded this for your kids to listen to. Why? Because kids don't
listen to their parents all the time,
but they will listen to this big, tall kid who struggled as a child
and finally learned how to control his own impulses and emotions.
And he'll teach your kids how to do this.
And here's the cool message my son sends to your kids.
If you learn how to control yourselves, your parents won't have to.
When your parents say, hey, get off video games,
and you just go, hold on, I need to save it.
I need to save it,
I need to get the next level. When you do that, you just ruin things with your parents, because now they can't trust you. But the moment your kids, the moment you tell your parents, okay, mom,
and you turn off your video games, here's what your mom starts to learn your dad.
My child can control himself. So therefore, I'm going to actually give him additional time
to do what he wants to do because I know I'm not going to have a big fight and my child can't
control himself. But kids, if you can't control yourself, why would your parents even let you play
video games in the first place? So we've put all four of these programs together in one little
package we call the bag because if you get the physical CDs, they'll come in a Got Calm bag
with a nice little magnet that says, You're a Great Mom.
You can also get them as downloads, too.
So you can download them right to multiple devices
so your husband, your parents, your friends can listen.
I don't care. I want everybody listening.
So if you want this little package, it's on sale this week.
So a couple ways to do it. Email my son Casey, C-A-S-E-Y, Celebrate want this little package, it's on sale this week. So, a couple ways to do it.
Email my son Casey, C-A-S-E-Y, CelebrateCalm.com, or call him, 888-506-1871.
Find it on the website.
And ask him, say, hey, I want the bag, and he'll put it together.
If you want it customized with a couple different things in it, let him know.
He'll help you out.
If you go on the website, you'll see a products page.
I'm sorry. It's called a products tab.
Apparently, I've never used the Internet before.
So if you go to the products tab and you kind of scroll over it,
it'll have this thing called Get the Bag.
And you just order it right there by yourself online.
But if we can help you, let us know.
By the way, if you want us to come train
people, email us. Remember, Ukrainian people, Romanians. Countries look really cool. So email
us. I know we have listeners there because you've emailed us before and we'll reach out to you as
well. And teacher training that week of March 18th. But look, we can do it back to school time.
We can do training any time of the year. We're getting ready to do a road trip coming into Ohio, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky,
and then in April, we're back all across the country again. But anyway, if we can help you
out, we'd love to. But let's put these things into practice. I want you to be the grown-up,
be the parent, right? Be the parent. Use the even matter-of-fact tone. It is really cool when you get control of yourself how much your kids will begin to listen to you.
And by the way, if you email and call Casey, ask him about this because he will tell you
when I started using this tone and when I became the grown-up, he started to respect me. He started
to know that I wasn't messing around. I didn't have to yell at him, shame him. I didn't have to
wag my finger at him. I didn't have to do the snotty tone, but I also wasn't begging him and
asking him to do it. It made him feel like a grown-up. It makes your kids feel like grown-ups
when you talk to them like that, and it will start to act more like that. Hey,
thanks for listening, and I'll talk to you next time. Bye-bye.