Calm Parenting Podcast - Obeying with Video Games, Homework & Chores
Episode Date: February 24, 2020Obeying with Video Games, Homework & ChoresHow do you get your kids to do their chores and homework, get off video games, and listen to you the first time without yelling, begging, or threatening? How... can you teach them impulse control? Kirk gives you specific actions steps and scripts. Want to get your kids to listen the first time, stop the meltdowns, control themselves and control yourself? Achieve these four goals with our four most popular programs at https://www.celebratecalm.com/get-the-bag/. Questions? Email Casey@CelebrateCalm.com and he'll be happy to help put together a customized bundle for your family, send you a proposal to have Kirk speak at your school, church, or conference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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And so what popped out at me, by the way, welcome to the Calm Parenting Podcast. This is Kirk Martin,
founder of Celebrate Calm. If you're new to us, welcome. You can find us at CelebrateCalm.com.
And our specialty is dealing with strong-willed kids. But you know what the real issue is? It's
us as parents because we have so much anxiety. And when people were posting on Facebook
at the Celebrate Calm page, all I kept feeling inside was, this isn't really your child's issue.
This is yours.
You're like creating so many power struggles over things that don't even matter, right?
And it's just all this stuff.
I'm not going to do a podcast.
This isn't going to be about this, but give me like a minute and a half on this.
But you've got to look inside and see like, where's this coming from?
Some of you are like me, very type A.
Maybe you had the career military father like I did.
And so you're just intense and everything's intense.
Or you're just a good parent.
You want your child to succeed.
And you're looking at the strong-willed child and he's not doing anything.
Or she's not.
She's got a bad attitude. They don't
do their schoolwork or whatever it is, and so you're getting afraid about their future, and
you're projecting out, thinking who's going to hire them one day, who's going to marry them one
day, and so you start lecturing and getting on them, and that never works, right? That's your
own anxiety, or you're looking at some of you have like little kids, like, oh, my five-year-old won't do her schoolwork. Well, why should she?
She shouldn't be doing schoolwork at age five.
That's your own issue and that's school's issue.
But your child doesn't have a chance.
A five-year-old doesn't have a chance to say, doesn't have the maturity to say,
oh, mother, listen, I'm a really bright kid and I love exploring right now and I'm really curious about stuff.
And I know you want me to do all this arbitrary stuff that you've come up with and the schools come up with.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that right now.
But I guarantee you I'm going to be wildly successful in life because I am smart and I am curious.
Just please don't suffocate me and take that curiosity out of me just because you're anxious and you're giving in to what society says that I need to be
doing right now. They don't have a voice. They don't have a voice to say that, so they just don't
do it, right? And you've got to have the maturity to deal with your own issues and be the parent
and say, yeah, don't think my five-year-old needs to be doing homework. I think the five-year-old
needs to be exploring and getting into stuff. Now, some of you are going to ask, well, what about the 12-year-old and the 17-year-old
who's not doing his schoolwork? I'm not handling that one. I've done that on previous podcasts,
and I'm going to do that in a couple weeks on motivating kids internally. We'll get to that.
We'll get to that. Here's what I wanted to get to today. Discipline, getting kids to listen, because we've got a special going on right now, which is an awesome, awesome deal.
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so we talk about discipline. I'm going to try to do this very, very quickly,
especially for those of you who are new. Consequences usually don't work for our kids.
They don't work. I've explained that why other
places. So instead of giving consequences for failure, what if we were to proactively
give kids tools to succeed, right? So a large part of what we teach in discipline isn't just,
well, wait for your kids to mess up and then you can bring the hammer down, right? No, it's I create
successes. Write that phrase down. I want you to create successes because people are always like,
let's go through chores and homework really quickly. People are always like, well, you're
letting them get away with things. I don't let anybody get away with anything, but yelling at
a child, lecturing, just cracking down on them indiscriminately,
doesn't teach them anything, right? So we're not going to let them get away with things. I just
don't react to kids. I teach kids. I give them tools to succeed. So when I have chores, just
very quickly, I'll give you one idea. Let your kids do some different chores. You know your kids
don't like doing things the way you want them done, and they like doing things on their own
terms, so to speak. I don't have a problem with that within your boundaries. Some of us are so
rigid. Well, here are the three chores you have to do. Why? Why do they have to do those three chores? Why can't you just say,
look, I want three chores done in the home every day. Three chores. Don't care which ones they are.
I don't care. In return for you doing your three chores, I run three services. Meal service,
taxi service, laundry service. You do your three, I do my three. You don't do your three, I don't do my three. But the larger point
is give them some ownership and space to do something different. The whole idea of chores
is you just want them to contribute and be responsible. Some of your kids love doing
things outside. They would love pulling up weeds, shoveling mulch, doing something outside that's
physical. Why can't that be their chore, right? So rethink, get out of kind of the rigidity of like,
well, this is just the way it's supposed to be done. Why? Just because everybody else has done
it that way and they've fought their whole childhoods and they don't have a good relationship
with their kids. Stop doing it the way everybody else does it. Why does it have to be done that way? So I come
up with a list or say, I don't care what you do. I just want you to contribute. So you want to do
the weeds? Awesome. Because I hate doing weeds, right? And let them get outside. When they're
outside, it's physical, feels good. It meets their outside. When they're outside, it's physical. It feels good.
It meets their sensory needs.
And they're outside.
It's a bonus for you, a bonus for them.
It's a bonus for the other siblings that they won't be irritating because they're too busy
outside doing something, right?
Be a little bit flexible with stuff.
That's why you've got to slow your life down.
But that's your issue because you've
overscheduled your kids because you're trying to keep up with everybody else. And that's your own
anxiety because you think, if I don't have my kids doing this and this and this, they won't
be prepared. And I have to prepare them. We have to make sure they have a good resume so they can
get into the right college. All anxiety and none of that is true. So you know what I wanted to say? Cut the crap.
You know why? I know people hate that word. All I knew is when we had 1,500 kids in our home,
I didn't really want to swear at them too much. I didn't at all. But sometimes I'd say, hey,
cut the crap. And for some reason, that really worked. And they'd cut it out. So cut the crap
and be the leader and be the grown-up
and do what you know is the right thing to do
instead of trying to do it the way everybody else wants you to do it.
You're the grown-up.
It's your family.
It's not anybody else's family.
It's your family.
So you get to decide, right?
Little kids, I don't care, toddlers, 9, 10, 12, whatever it is,
stimulate their brains.
Make things a challenge,
make things a little bit harder. I guarantee you most of your kids don't want to do simple
things around the house because they're boring and they're bored. So make it a challenge.
When we had kids at our home, we had 1500 strong will kids with all kinds of different issues and
labels come through our home. And when I gave them chores to do, and they did chores for me every single day,
I made them do it in a challenging way. Hey, but you can't do it backwards, but you can't do it
with a blindfold on. But you can't do that going down the stairs backwards with a blindfold on.
The bigger the challenge, the more it stimulated their brains. Let me give you one more. So I'm at the bank this morning and the lady's like,
hey, what's this Celebrate Calm thing? I was like, I know it's a dumb name. Used to be Celebrate ADHD
and then we switched over because we found that the kids were fine, but the parents needed help
and they're freaks. And so, and don't be, well, be offended if you wish. We're all freaks with this stuff, right? And so I found it.
So we switched it to Celebrate Calm.
So I was like, so she started asking me about it.
And as it turns out, like a minute later, I pretty much described her child.
And she's like, how did you know that?
I was like, all of our kids are like that.
And so she was like, well, what about homework time?
So I told her about giving kids tools to
succeed, standing over your child, just saying, if you would focus, you would be done in 45 minutes
instead of it taking three hours. It's not motivating, right? But what you have to figure
out and know is your kids' brains need to be stimulated. So we give them tools. So I told
the lady at the bank, I'm like, why can't your daughter stand at the kitchen
counter while she's listening to music, while she's eating a snack, rocking back and forth on
her heels? And the lady said, she would love to do it that way. But I can't think straight when
there's music on. I need it quiet. I was like, but that's your brain, not her brain.
Stop projecting everything of your own onto your kids.
I have kids who come to my house and I notice they lay upside down off the sofa.
Know what I learned?
Best way to do homework?
I bring homework in, say, this is kind of cool.
Curious.
Why do you like sitting upside down?
And I'd listen to them and they'd tell me about how their brains were working.
They didn't say it like that, but I learned that.
So I was like, so here's the deal.
We've got this homework to do.
Bet you can't do your math homework laying upside down.
Sure enough, they would do it like that.
So tools to succeed.
But let's transition now and do kind of the opposite way.
Not opposite, but when you get to be tough with your kids and getting them to succeed. But let's transition now, do kind of the opposite way, not opposite, but
when you get to be tough with your kids and getting them to listen. So let's say I've got
two sons and I come in the room and say, hey, here's the deal. This afternoon, I'm going to
give you 27 minutes to play your video games. Here's how it works. It's not my job to remind you to turn your video games
off. Okay, no more of this. Guys, one minute left, 30 seconds. Okay, turn it off. Hold on,
we need to save it. We need to get next level. And all that drama, that's your issue because
you keep feeding that, right? Now, this is not blaming guilt, but we've got to own our stuff,
right? So I tell my kids is, you've got 27 minutes and here's how it works. You have a choice and I'll
make you a promise. In the original days, and if you get any of the programs, the discipline program,
we go through choices and promises because I can't make my kids do anything. They don't want to do it. You can't make them. But they do have a choice,
and I do give them a promise, because a promise speaks of personal integrity. You have a choice.
If you turn your video games off after 27 minutes, I promise you, you will get to play again tomorrow.
But if that video game is on for even half a second, past 27 minutes,
I promise you, you will have chosen, see, it's their choice, to lose your video games for the
next three days. Choice is up to you. Now, if they're younger, I'll give them tools. I may help
them set an alarm clock, but most of your kids, you've already given them iPhones when it's way too young. So they're too young. So let them set their own timer, right, for 24 minutes, knowing we've got
three minutes left. Teach them how to do it at first. But it's very cut and dry, very clear.
You've got a choice. Not my job to remind you. I'm going to walk out of the room. So I walk out
of the room. I come back in after 27 minutes. What am I
going to find? I guarantee your kids are still going to be playing their video games. Why? Because
that's their job, is to push the limits and argue and negotiate. Stop taking everything so personally.
Stop expecting your kids to somehow be, I was going to say little saints, but if you ever read
through scripture sometime, you'll find out that everybody in there was basically a horrible person.
Moses was a murderer. King David committed adultery and murder. Just relax with that.
Stop thinking like, oh, but my kids, they should just naturally want to listen to me. Why? That's not
human nature. Maybe you're like that because you're a good person, but I guarantee if you're
like that, you have your own issues, right? Because you're a perfectionist and you're a
people pleaser and you're afraid to disappoint people and say no to people because you had a
parent who was da-da-da. Anyway, so of course they're still going to be on their video
games. It's their job. So look, a lot of what we teach is controlling yourself because if you just
come in, guys, you know what? After all I do for you, all I ask is you get off your video game.
You can't even do it. When I was a kid, they don't care about all of that. So when I come in the room, I've got my even, calm,
matter-of-fact voice that says, hey guys, just wanted to remind you that you just chose to lose
your video games for the next three days. Now what's their response going to be? Mother, father,
thank you for being consistent and following through. It makes us feel safe as children.
Yeah, they're not going to say that. They're going to call you names. You're a terrible mother and they hate you. I wish I had a different father.
Of course they are. Again, don't take everything personally. They're not mad at you. They're mad
at themselves because they realize that they messed up. Stop feeding everything and making it all worse. You just let them know,
this is how I look. This is how I roll in the home. And part of what you'll learn if you listen
to our programs is this phrase, I will tell you one time and then I will take action.
It's very low key. I don't have to do a big lecture. In fact, I don't want you to lecture.
I don't want lots of talking. I want your
kids to know that I'm a person of integrity. And when I tell you I'm going to do something,
I just do it. I don't berate you. I'm not mad at you. I'm not really disappointed. I am a little
bit, but it's not really about my disappointment. That makes it about me. What this is about is
when I tell you something, I want you
to know that you can always count on me to follow through, even if you're going to be angry and mad
and throw a tantrum and throw things at me and whatever else it is. Because look, you can't count
on a lot of things in life anymore, but you can always count on me. Because when I make a promise
to you, I just keep my promises.
So it's a beautiful word. And we'll show you how to do that in 15, 20 different situations.
Now they're not going to like it. It's okay. And look, we go through some variations on the CDs.
I have a lot more time, but we go through the variations. They're like, well, what about when
you try to make them turn their video games off, right? And you get into a wrestling match over the controller.
I don't want to do that either.
So I could let them know and just say,
look, you guys can continue playing,
but for every minute you continue to play,
that will be an additional day
that will be added on to the time
before you get to play again.
So again, choice is up to you, right? So I'm not,
look, some of your kids are really big now. And so you can't like wrestle the controller away from
them, but I'm also letting them know, here are my boundaries. Here's how it works. And I'm just
going to do that, right? So let's say you do that. What's going to happen? Your kids are going to be
miserable next three days.
What can we have?
Can we have our video games back?
We'll turn on the...
So here's what I want you to do.
Do the three days.
Whatever you decide.
Whatever you decide.
It could be a day.
It could be a week.
I don't care.
So they get their video games back.
But let me teach you one other thing.
Because on here is one of the things we want to teach you is how to teach your kids self-control.
Because when your kids listen to Casey's, our son's CD program, Straight Talk for Kids,
it's very grounding because they get to hear a kid talking to them who's another kid, right?
Who struggled, who's just like them, and they will feel very understood.
And my son describes how he struggled
with self-control, and he goes through different ways how he learned how to control his emotions.
And it's really, really cool. But one of the things he will challenge your kids with is this.
Kids, and this big principle he teaches in his school assemblies. So anyway, by the way,
if you ever want him to do a school assembly or if you need
help with CDs or anything else, booking events, it's Casey you're going to talk to. And you can
call him 888-506-1871 or Casey, C-A-S-E-Y at CelebrateCalm.com. Awesome customer service.
He's an awesome young man, but he was horrible like many of your kids when he was a little kid.
Kind of joking, but not really. But one many of your kids when he was a little kid. Kind of joking,
but not really. But one, the big principle he teaches kids is this. If you learn how to control
yourself, your parents won't have to. So he does a little joke there where he says to your kids,
look, next time your kids say, hey, get off your screens, if you say, okay, mom, what will happen
is your mom will faint because she's never heard that
before. And then you can play the rest of your night. Kidding. But he teaches that, which is
really cool. So you can go to your kids and say, guys, listen, you get your video games back
tonight. I'm going to give you 27 minutes again, but here's a little wrinkle I'm going to throw
into this little incentive. If you two will turn off, or this could be a single child, however you want to do it.
If you turn off your video games two minutes early, I will give you an additional four minutes to play tomorrow night.
That's right.
If you turn them off two minutes early, then you get an additional four minutes.
Why am I doing that? To teach them delayed gratification, to teach impulse control.
If you go to your child and say, you know, if you turned off five minutes early,
never going to happen because your kids are already addicted to it.
But it may be a week from now, but when they yell into the kitchen,
Mom, Dad, we turned off the video game two minutes early.
Now you get to bring your positive intensity.
And that's another discipline tool is positive affirmation,
positive intensity. And I get to come in a room and say, that's cool. You guys just chose to turn
off your video games two minutes early. And in return, you earned an additional four minutes
tomorrow night. What that tells me is I can begin to trust you because you're exercising self-control
and the more you control yourself means I don't have to control you. Fist bump, pretty awesome,
right? So does that make sense? So look, let's tie this together. We're going to give kids lots
of tools to succeed, making things a challenge, doing it in a different way, right?
Mixing it up a little bit. But at the end of the day, when I want something done, it's even
matter-of-fact tone. It's very low-key. I let the kids know that they've got a choice, that I make
a promise. And what I want them to know throughout their entire years from the time they are two until they are 52 is I always keep my promises.
So teenager, when I tell you that that is your curfew, that is your curfew. And if you come home
30 seconds late, you will lose that car for the next three weeks or a week, whatever it is you
want it to be. I just, you know, you've got to,
I don't want to get into that, but you've got to make sure your expectations are realistic and your consequences are realistic, right? You're not going to drive for another three years,
but I have no problem with saying, hey, 30 seconds late, you forfeit the car for the next three days.
Dad, I was only three, 30 seconds late. I know. I just want you to
know. And see, watch what the tone is. And this is the hardest part is you're not lecturing. You
know what? When I was a kid, if I came home late, you know what? I don't know how many times I have
to tell you all these long lectures and lectures about, you know, you need to learn how to be
responsible because if you don't come home when I, I'm not doing all those things. Your kids already know that. What I'm
letting my son, when I did this with my son, I would just say, just place the keys in the dish
over there. Seriously, dad? Seriously? I'm 30 seconds late and I'm going to lose it for three
days? I'm not reacting to that.
He would get a little bit vocal, get a lot vocal.
I'm sure at the time he'd be like, well, this is stupid, right?
I don't know if anybody listens to you as a parenting expert.
Your stuff's stupid, right?
I'm not going to react.
I don't take it personally.
He's just mad at himself.
No, just leave the keys in the dish.
Because my tone is, I just want you to know when I tell you something, I mean it.
I'm not mad at you.
I'm okay with you not driving.
I'm okay with you not being on video games for the next three days.
I hope you do it all the time.
There's no anger.
There's no need to get all dramatic and go through all this stuff.
You get the point.
So if you need anything, contact our strong will child, Casey.
He's a pretty awesome kid.
He'll help you with anything you need.
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