Calm Parenting Podcast - Self-Centered Child? Unfair With Siblings, Does Minimal Work & No Chores?
Episode Date: December 15, 2024Self-Centered Child? Unfair With Siblings, Does Minimal Work & No Chores Your strong-willed kids are NOT going to do things your way. You are NOT going to change their nature. They will choose the ha...rder path and touch the hot stove. It will make you uncomfortable and siblings will say it’s unfair. Kirk gives you scripts and actions steps to stop the battles and motivate your kids. This is the FINAL week of our Christmas Sale! Visit https://celebratecalm.com/calm-christmas/ to purchase the Get Everything Package at the lowest prices of the year. Get practical strategies that really work with your strong-willed kids. AG1 AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3 & K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://drinkag1.com/calm to see what gift you can get this week! AIR DOCTOR Go to https://airdoctorpro.com/ and use promo code CALM and you’ll receive UP TO $300 off air purifiers! Our podcast listeners also receive a free 3 year warranty on any unit, which is an additional $84 value! HAPPY MAMMOTH It's time to feel like yourself again, Moms! For a limited time, you can get 15% off on your entire first order at https://store.happymammoth.com/ with the code CALM at checkout. OneSkin OneSkin is the world’s first skin longevity company. Get started today with 15% off using code KIRK at https://oneskin.co. SKYLIGHT FRAME Get $20 OFF your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go to https://www.SkylightFrame.com/CALM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Your strong-willed child is not going to do things your way and you are not going
to change your child's nature. Your child is going to choose the harder path and
touch the hot stove. It's just the way they're made and either you can either
keep fighting your child or accept this is the child you've been given and you can try a different way.
Now many of you come from one of two places. Perhaps you're the naturally
compliant person who grew up following rules. This is tough for you because when
someone asks you to do something your natural natural instinct is, well, you just do it.
Why is that so hard?
But our strong will child's first instinct is to ask why
and choose a harder path.
And you've noticed this.
They'll even make it harder on themselves, right?
They'll choose this and be like,
it would be so much easier if you would just do
what I asked you to do.
And you will
likely interpret much of what your child does as being defiant or rebellious or
difficult. Or maybe you were the strong-willed child yourself so you and
your child are a lot alike and you can push each other's buttons without even
trying. And now you don't want your strong willed child making the same mistakes you made so
you lecture and can try to control this child and it makes it worse.
So on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast, I want to share 10 truths about your
strong willed child that you may not like so that we can reset our expectations over the
holidays and create the new year so much better. So welcome this is Kirk Martin
founder of Celebrate Calm and you can find us in our Christmas sale at
CelebrateCalm.com. Look I know every week I ask you to take a very different
approach to your strong willed child and it makes you uncomfortable and you'll
find yourself falling back into the same old patterns of thinking you can change your
child by lecturing, micromanaging, trying to fit this child into your own mold or
the one that you want. But every time you do you'll be reminded why the typical
approach hasn't worked for the past four or 14 years. So I applaud you moms and
dads for continuing to wrestle with these ideas, with your own childhood
issues while you're raising your own child with a spouse who may or may not
be on board. I promise you this approach will work over time, and the fruit will be a relationship
you actually enjoy and cherish one day,
even if the path to getting there
is fraught with fights and tears and doubt.
And I can tell you, you've heard me talk about Casey.
We fought so much when he was a kid.
And I can tell you, he's a grown man now.
I don't want you to miss out on this kind of relationship
I have with Casey just because it looks and feels different.
So as we head into the holidays,
I think it's important to reset your mindset
and how you view your kids and the path forward.
So let's just start here.
What do you want?
You want a happy, confident, purposeful kid
in a peaceful home.
A child who uses his or her natural gifts,
talents, and passions in purposeful ways
and has healthy relationships throughout their lives.
Well, what do we have now?
We've got a challenging child
who makes everything a power struggle.
Who isn't motivated.
Who always does things the hard way.
Who makes things difficult for himself and his
family. Now this is also a child who has a big heart, big brain sometimes, and big potential.
And you're here because nothing else you've tried has worked. Consequences don't work. Most therapy
doesn't work. And you're you're wits andate to have a good relationship with your child. So let's dig into this and I want to give you perspective
I want to challenge you I want to give you hope so number one
Your strong will child is never going to do things your way or the way you want them done
I have discussed this all throughout our programs and our podcasts. It's just the way that it is
They will do things just not the way you want them done.
And you need to get over your own control issues.
Your strong willed child is not going
to be immediately obedient.
It's a horrible expectation anyway,
and it's not even rooted in human nature.
And you know what I really want?
I don't want you judging yourself because other people come along, well if you just did it the right way
your child will listen right away. No they won't. It's not human nature. It's not
even healthy sometimes. So I don't want you to have false expectations of
yourself and your child. Your Strongwell kids are always going to push back at
first. Sometimes when they're asking why, they're looking for context.
They're also thinking, hmm, I know I heard what you want me to do, but I'm thinking I've
got a really good brain and I'm creative. I'd really like to find a different way to
do it. Even if it's a little bit harder and even if you don't like it. Look, they don't
wake up every day thinking, oh, I just want to be a jerk and have everybody not like me.
Think about that.
They're just driven by these things inside and usually it's good motivations, not always,
but good motivations.
They just don't know how to navigate this world that feels very foreign to them and
that's why I want you to be patient with yourselves and with your kids.
Look, this is part of who they are.
So don't project out and label them as just being defiant.
They're looking for space and ownership
to do things a different way.
And if you give these kids a larger box,
so to speak, to live in,
you can still have very clear expectations and boundaries.
Just give them a little bit more space
to do things differently than you do.
But shouldn't kids just know how to listen
and take no for an answer?
Sure, of course they should.
But your kids don't, and they haven't
in the past 16 years you've known them, right?
So you're looking for some kind of trick that will work.
But give up on that. There's no, there's no trick. This is reality. We deal with the kids
we've been given. Number two, your strong willed child will choose the harder path.
They will make choices that think, that you think are stupid, and it would be so
much easier if they just did it right way, which is your way, but there are
different ways, but they must touch the hot stove. I want you to know this. That is
a necessary part of their learning process and if you kept them from doing
that, you would shortcut this process for them. Number three, you already know this.
Consequences and punishment do not work or motivate these kids. So stop using that as your first response. It
simply doesn't work and they simply don't care. Number four, your my way or the
highway tough guy approach, that was mine, will never work unless you like destroying
your relationship with your child. Yeah, your child may fear you, but their child won't respect you.
And it hasn't worked for the first four, seven,
17 years of your child's life.
So what makes you think it will work next time?
It won't, so stop that path.
Number five, your strong-willed child will appear
to be self-centered and selfish.
This is a big one.
But I guarantee you you it's nothing
more than self-preservation from an insecure immature human being who feels
different and is expending all of his or her emotional energy just trying to hold
it together inside. So think about this, they literally can't look outward
because they're so
focused inwardly holding things together. I've had friends who are recovering
alcoholics who during their addiction it was all about themselves. Why? Because
they had to spend all of their energy simply holding their life together. So
your child isn't a sociopath. He's just an overwhelmed kid.
And if you start to see your kids that way, you can reach into their hearts and
change and help them change and change the way they see themselves. Change and
give them tools to learn how to manage that internal world.
Otherwise, you'll just destroy their spirit and it will breed a lot of anger.
Number six, your strong willed child is going to progress on their own timeline.
They are not going to progress on your artificial timeline
according to artificial societal standards
I know we get all those books Oh by the age of three by the age of seven by the age of nine throw all
of that out that's just those are generalities and most of the
traditional approaches are
Developed by neurotypical people with neurotypical kids and they assume oh, this is the way it's supposed to be
That's utter BS.
Kids and humans are different and I don't want to strip away those differences. You cannot compare your kids to their siblings or peers. Many of your kids are late bloomers and they may need,
later on they may need a gap year or two before
going to college or figuring out their life plan. Some of your kids by the way
in their teen years will sabotage their going to college because they don't have
the courage to come to you or they fear your response if they say hey I just
don't think this is my path or I'm not ready yet and so they won't take their SATs they'll put things off just watch for that. I would be patient and don't force
it again you don't have to just you don't have to like pay for everything
and let them lay around their house your house when they're 18 or 19 no they
need to go work a job but many of your kids are actually really good at working
jobs they're just not always good at school.
You know what I would do? I would beg them to go to community college for the first two years.
You know why? Who needs the prestigious bumper sticker when yours says,
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Seriously, there isn't a right college for your child most of the time. There's not a right path. The right path is their path. It's better if your kids take it slowly and get a success first
before transferring on to a better college, before taking on all those
responsibilities and challenges and spending all of that money. I'll just
throw this out there. This may be for just a couple people. Some of your kids
may do better and it might be the right path for them to drop out of school when they're 16 and
get their GED and go start working a couple jobs and when they're ready,
they start taking a couple classes at the community college and it allows them to mature and grow up. Be open
to a different path for these kids. I want you to know moms and dads they're going to be okay.
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Number six, your strong willed child
will likely never do their chores
around the house very well, if at all.
And you're gonna have to wrestle with this one. I've done tons of podcasts on this, but I
believe it's true. Our son Casey was virtually useless as a child around the
house. He was, but outside the home he was extremely responsible and he was awesome
for other people. And remember, you're raising your kids to be adults who are
successful in the real adult world. Many of you have kids who just aren't that great at the kid world.
And so you're going to have to reconcile this within yourself.
What we decided we wanted was a kid who grew into a respectful,
responsible adult who can live on his own and be responsible.
And on his own, he was fantastic.
He was just awful for us sometimes. So we let things go and you're going to think, oh if he doesn't learn
how to do his chores he won't be able to keep a job. And that is a lie. Look if you
have three kids you'll want all of them to do the same number of chores.
And they aren't. The strong willed child will pay one sibling to do
his chores and manipulate the other one and your appropriate response is you know that's good
thinking strong willed child. You've determined that doing chores is boring but you're really
good at making money so with that money you paid your one sibling to do your chores. That's called
delegation. It's a mature smart strategy used by entrepreneurs and you're a born entrepreneur.
And then you manipulated your other sibling.
That's because you understand human nature.
And some people call that influence, well done.
You give them a fist bump and walk away.
And yeah, look, I know that's hard,
but I would encourage you, that's real life.
And the real problem in this
situation is the child who allows himself or herself to get manipulated.
That child needs to learn some self-respect to be assertive and now
allow other people to take advantage of them. By the way I'll save you some
trouble. Your strong-willed toddler will not pick up all of their toys by
themselves even if they
dump like 40,000 Lego blocks on the floor.
They're just not going to do it.
And you're going to be on the floor grumbling, picking up even more toys than your child.
It's just the way it goes.
And no, it doesn't mean they're going to grow up to be lazy and entitled and irresponsible.
There are just certain things that I've seen in the course of working with almost a million
families that happen again and again.
And I'd rather you not fight over all of these things all the time.
Remember we've talked about reading the moment.
Sometimes you just do what works in the moment so that you can live to enjoy or fight another day.
Number eight, your strong-willed child
is going to make you really uncomfortable
and cause some disagreements with your spouse
because in addition to the chores issue above,
here are a few more.
And look, I'm really just trying to be honest with this.
I could take just the tough typical parenting approach
You know what you need to bear down on your kids
You let them know if they don't pick up those those toys and those Legos
You're gonna take them to Goodwill and three minutes later a child will pick up the toys and head out the door and say hey
Seeing a few I'm taking my toys down to Goodwill myself, right?
They just they just don't respond to the same
things and I am a realist and what I want you to focus on are the more important things over time.
Look, your strong will child probably won't show they're not going to show their work when doing
math programs because it's stupid. I just showed you my work by getting the answer right. Duh!
It's stupid. I just showed you my work by getting the answer right. Duh.
And your child's kind of correct with that.
And I did this on a recent podcast. A lot of times what's happening is your kids see patterns and things.
And so they look at a math problem and they're like, Oh,
I see the answer and they just write it down.
And then the teacher and parents asked this child to write down a process that
they don't even use. And if you really think about it, we do this with our kids
all the time. We're like, hey I know you're made this way and your way of
thinking is is completely different, but I want you to think like everybody else
thinks. I want you to deny your very nature and just do things the way I do
Them and everyone else does them because that would be so much easier for you and for me
That's what we're often doing with our kids and I want you to wrestle with those things
Because it's hard your strong will child may do the minimal work necessary
just to skate by.
And I get that.
It's frustrating.
You're gonna project in the future and think,
oh, if they don't do their best at everything,
how are they gonna be successful in life?
But the truth is you should go to that child and say,
you know what, that's actually really smart
because you don't care about grades right now.
And you know grades before high school don't even count.
So you'd rather think strategically
and preserve your energy for things you actually care about.
But here's what I know,
when you do care about something,
when you get a vision for your life,
you are going to use that persistence,
you are going to use those critical thinking and strategic thinking skills, and you're gonna crush it. And
then you give them a fist bump and you walk away and drink. I'm kidding, I don't
want you to drink, but you're gonna feel like it because this stuff causes us a
lot of anxiety because it's so different. And it's going to be very uncomfortable
for you, but these things are all true. And you're gonna have to reconcile
yourself to the fact
that your child simply doesn't care about
what you care about yet.
So listen to those episodes I've done
on sparking internal motivation in your kids.
You have to reconcile yourself to the fact
that all of your lecturing, priding, bribing,
and threatening has not changed
or motivated your child at all.
Instead, it simply hurt your relationship and destroyed your trust and your child is actually doing the opposite.
Well, but shouldn't my child just... no! Cut it out.
This is about you and your anxiety about your child's future.
Focus on controlling and changing yourself instead of your child because
none of your efforts have worked before. It's not gonna magically happen all of a
sudden now. So let's dive into another favorite parenting myth. Well, kids have
to learn to push through when things get hard because life is filled with doing
things you don't want to do. True enough in one sense, but here's where the reasoning falls apart.
We push through because we have a reason to,
a need to support my family,
an internal drive to accomplish something we care about.
But I bet you I can find five things in your life
that you don't push through to accomplish.
And that could be in
diet and exercise and giving to others, serving others, taking on more responsibility at work.
Why? Because you don't care about it enough to push through. Look, when I worked in the corporate
world, I wasn't great at managing the details of the business. But with this, with Celebrate Calm,
I know every single thing going on in my business. Why?
Because I'm motivated. Because I have ownership of this. And your kids simply aren't going to push
through and be motivated until they care about something and have ownership. Look, I guarantee
you when they play video games, oh, they push through because they care about getting to the next level or winning at that.
Think about this.
Why would you push through if you don't care about the mission or if you see no reason
or purpose in it?
So here's a tip.
Watch for the moments when your kids do push through, when they're doing something they
really care about.
It could be persistence with their video games, with building something, with helping a neighbor.
See, when they do things for other people,
they're often very conscientious,
just not when they do it for you.
And there's no blame or guilt here.
It's just that sometimes when kids do things for us,
we don't really recognize or we say, hey, nice job,
but if you would just do this,
and we're never really happy with them, and so they don't do it anymore.
That motivation is there.
It's just not always there in the areas we want it to be there.
So affirm what they're already doing well.
That is much more motivating for these kids.
And I'm going to save you a lot of money in family fights.
Your strong willed child is likely not going to practice their instrument
Or practice at sports and you're gonna say but they could be so good
They can make the varsity team or first-tier violin if they would just practice
Look, here's what I want you to know. These kids just won't practice yet. They just want to play the game
They want to they want to do it a different way. They want to play in the concert. I know it bugs you.
They just don't care yet and they often won't learn to read music. But they will learn by
watching YouTube videos and it will drive you crazy. Just don't invest a lot of your own money
and time in their activities. Let them pay for at least part of it and relax and enjoy it.
And I guarantee you sometimes when you when you release them from your expectations of doing it
your way, oftentimes they will then step up. But when we're on them all the time, there's no space
for them to step up. It's suffocating. And so they don't. So get accustomed to being uncomfortable
and be willing to toss out all of those parenting lies you've been told yourself under the ones that
you tell yourself and your kids. Okay, this is a hard one. Number nine, family life is going to be
unfair. You are going to have to grade on a curve with your strong-willed child because they aren't
going to measure up or compare to their siblings. You're going to feel like you're letting them get away
with things and sometimes you are because sometimes you just don't want to
murder your child. You know what I mean by that. There were and are times when I
looked at my son and said, huh you are almost respectful to me right then.
That's progress for you and you're going to wrestle with this.
And I remember we used to travel a lot,
conduct a lot of live events.
And I'd sent Casey a text,
because he would go in, get set up.
I'd sit in the car for a few minutes.
I'd say, hey, I want to take a different approach tonight.
And when I walked into that event,
here he was, Casey, marching toward me.
And he just said directly, no, we're not doing that and inside
I was like I am your father and I am your boss. Who are you to talk to me like that?
But I had to realize this was a kid with strong opinions and a very direct manner
It's the way he was from the time he came out of the womb. But his intentions were good, even if his manner and tone weren't.
So, and I engaged and we talked it out.
And as it turned out, the little jerk was right.
So, and that's the way it works in your home a lot.
Look, the other kids in your home are going to complain.
It isn't fair, right?
Because this child is going to drain the
energy away from everyone else and there's nothing you can do about that fact. You can't even out the
time. You're going to invest more time in your strong willed child when they are kids. So don't
try to fight that. Don't feel guilty because it's actually a gift to the other kids because they
get away with a lot more things because you're so busy correcting the strong willed child.
And when the other kids say it isn't fair, you can remind them of this.
Oh, you want to talk about fairness? Well, let's talk fairness.
You know what else isn't fair?
It's not fair that you were made with a brain and personality that makes it easy for you to get good grades in school,
to do your homework quickly, to make friends and have sleepovers and generally be likeable and compliant.
And yet your brother's brain is wired in such a way,
he has to work five times harder than you to sit still all day to memorize information for a test and to do homework.
It's not fair that it's harder for him to connect with kids his own age.
Have you ever noticed how difficult life is for him?
Would you want to walk in his shoes
or trade places with him for a day?
I don't think so.
So instead of talking about fairness,
we could also talk about gratitude.
See, by the way, and you can say,
you don't have to say this,
by the way, you better be nice to your brother
because one day you'll probably be working for him
when he starts his own business and rules the world. Okay, leave
the last part out. But I don't want you to apologize for raising a different kid differently.
It is going to be tougher. Number 10. That's because you have to understand the arc of
their lives. Strong will kids feel like they're swimming upstream.
Childhood just doesn't suit them.
And you said before,
if we can just get this child to adulthood,
they're going to be fine.
See, strong-willed kids face adversity
from the time they begin preschool, usually,
and it doesn't let up,
because navigating childhood doesn't come easy for them.
So it's almost like they get most of their difficulties
out of the way as kids. But here's the beneficial part. By the time
they're 26, they are so accustomed to adversity, they can handle real life.
Whereas your compliant child will wilt like a flower after getting fired from
their first job. But the strong-willed child is gonna be like, I've had everyone
against me since I was born. Bring it. And please note as well that this adversity forces them to create
different coping mechanisms and workarounds that often give them a
competitive advantage later in life. So moms and dads, let's reset our
expectations over the holidays. Wrestle with this stuff. Binge listen to past episodes of the Calm Parenting Podcast.
If you have our programs on that app, let your kids listen over the holidays.
They will start to understand their brains and they'll be like,
that guy's describing me.
That's what it feels like.
Can we do this a different way?
Let extended family listen to the programs.
And if you have them, email us with your child's
teachers email address and we'll send them a couple of the most the programs
that would benefit them most and they can listen over the holiday break okay I
want you to enjoy the strong willed child I know they are different but I
can tell you it is so gratifying later on.
You are going to, it's gonna be awesome. Moms and dads much respect to you all.
Love you all. Bye bye.