Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 045 - Truett Hanes

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

Join us for a discussion with Truett Hanes, Cam’s son and Guiness World Record holder of 8,100 pullups in one day.  Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com   Truett Hanes Links: https://www.instagram.com/just_truett/ https://www.youtube.com/@truetthanes    Thank you to our sponsors: Blokes: https://blokes.com/cam use code CAM for 20% off labs Go Ruck: https://www.goruck.com use code CAM for 10% off  Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv  Black Rifle: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first Order MTN OPS: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off and Free Shipping   Timestamps: 0:00:00  Intro - Truett’s Blacktail Hunt 0:11:44  What Hunting Means to Truett 0:17:51  High School Sports & Being Jacked 0:29:23  Truett & Tanner - An Edge in Young Age 0:41:48  Where the Journey in Pull Ups Started 0:53:49  Breaking the World Record in Pull Ups 1:07:33  The Motivation Behind Breaking the World Record 1:15:50  The Mindset of Being Tough 1:22:12  Truett’s Next Goal 1:25:00  Why Cam Started Running Marathons  1:27:15  What Kept Cam Motivated After Kids 1:34:11  The Race Cam Dropped Out Of 1:38:17  The Feeling of Being Proud 1:41:01  Outro  

Every step I take, I move my truth. Every time they tell me stop I use. Every comment hate that makes my feel, gather up my energy, and boom. I hear them talking, saying the way that I move is so reckless. That is a part of my mind I've been blessed with. Giving my blood so I am relentless. All right. Do the thing.

What? Three, two, one, boom. Boom. And we're live. And we're live. This is a Keep Hammering Collective with Truitt. Connor. Is it Connor?

Or Jonathan. No. It's Connor. Okay, it's Tanner, Jonathan, Truitt Connor. Yeah. I always get you guys mixed up. We know. So this is interesting.

Let's make this interesting. That's an inside joke. But yeah, I know. I've never done a podcast before, so you should feel pretty lucky. I feel honored. What's, uh, so what's your deepest, darkest secret? Let's just start the podcast off with that. That's a really good one.

If anybody knew about, you'd be banned from society. Yeah, no, that's good. And I'm glad you asked it. I think probably what it is is I've actually, I've never revealed how strong I actually am, like in all events, like running, lifting and whatnot, just because I just don't want to reveal all my cards. Show off?

Yeah, I don't want to show off. off. So that's like, yeah. No, I mean, if people knew that, geez. Yeah, game over. Yeah. Smart. Thank you. Very smart. You got to be humble. Yeah. And that's one thing that I'm really good at being is humble. I'm probably the most humble person you've ever made. Yeah. So this is, man, first of all, I never thought I'd have a podcast. And then I never thought there'd be any reason to talk to one of my kids on it if I did have one. Yeah, no kidding. No, truthfully, I, I wanted to have you and Tanner at the same time. He made some excuse. He's like, likes to hide in the shadows. Laryngitis. Right. Exactly. So it would be best to have you and he, he and I and me and you. Yeah.

And him. It's all right. Yeah. So we'll start off with you. And man, Been busy lately. So it wasn't yesterday. Day before you killed a buck. Yep. Prior to that, you set the world record in pull-ups. Most pull-ups in 24 hours. Prior to that, you failed.

Yeah, failed back in April six months ago. And that's what makes a compelling story. The struggle, the experience, the self-doubt. A lot of that. Let's talk about the hunt. How'd the hunt go? Hunt was good. We had a lot of action on the first day.

Saw quite a few bucks, and then I just couldn't get a shot off on any of them. And then, like I said, in my Instagram post. But you told us right before we headed down the ridge when I did get my buck that we were going to see a buck. Then, like, not five minutes later, we saw a buck. He spotted him and then got set up on a tree stump, 230 yards. He closed in 30 yards and at 200. It was just right on him, quartered a little, and then was able to make a good shot on the old Sig Cross.

Yeah, that was a nice gun. Kevin Acres, let us borrow. Yeah, yeah, thank you, Kevin. Shout out. Yeah, and then as we all well know, it's an inside family secret which we have video of but we're not going to release to the public um but was packing it out as we do and for some reason my dad likes to do it a full so like after you gut it put it on your back tire deer and then you uh you head up the ridge to the truck and um

you know it's it's pretty dang steep and wet in Oregon and uh i made it would you say halfway would you give me that sure okay halfway made it up halfway and then um you know this is my fault but i was in vans uh they're like they're like trail shoes kind of not the best grip definitely not crispy boots and um is this excuses? No. What is this? No, this is facts. Mudwater is something I've been using daily since I started the podcast. It's supposed to be an alternative to coffee, but I actually add it to mine for some extra health benefits. It's got four functional mushrooms and with only a little caffeine, and each ingredients was added for a purpose. Cicayo and chai for a hint of caffeine and hot

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And then got to a part where the ground was pretty loose. And, you know, you got the weight on you. So take a step, slip, fall down with it, get back up, put it on. Take a couple steps, slip all the way back down to where you were. And every step, you know, it counts. It's like a rep. It's lunging, basically. Yeah.

And with 100 and some pounds on the back of your head. Yeah, yeah, one false move and it's, you're going down. But I had finally had enough. I fell down and it went, I went over my head on the ground. And then I proceeded to slip down. I don't even know, like five feet. And then- Have you seen the movie Cliff Hanger?

Was Sylvester Stallone? No. He's hanging on ice cliffs. Like that's what it reminded me out. Yeah, I know. I had the death grip into the mud. Trying to hang on because I just kept slipping down. I couldn't believe.

I could not believe how frustrating that was. But I had a breaking point, grab my hat, threw it on the ground, screamed, expletive. And then I want to say screamed. I yelled. Screamed is a little bit dramatic. It was, yeah, I was similar to like a three. horror thriller scream.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By a female lead. Yeah. But no, and then even when I was getting angry and upset, throwing my hat and whatnot, I kept slipping down. And then kept slipping, kept slipping, kept slipping, finally grabbed a log through it,

slipped after that. And yeah, so what we kind of talked about on the way back was how I can be what I would be considered pretty tough. on that 8100, overcame a lot, obviously. That's a reference to 8,100 pull-ups in under 24 hours. 8,100 pull-ups in 24 hours. That was just October 14th, so like two weeks ago from that day.

And how you're tough on that day, but it doesn't mean you're going to be tough on another day, which I wasn't for some reason. You can't rest on your laurels for the rest of your life now. No, no, and that's, I mean, yeah that's one thing that you don't even think about you're just like okay yeah i accomplish this so i can accomplish um basically anything that's in my way but uh things are just different and you don't know what's gonna like cause you to stumble and you just you need to get that edge every single day

there's like that corny saying something about like rent is due every day and whatnot but uh dues paid or something like that rent's due every day yeah yeah yeah i think with the rock made that up you're like the rock yeah I don't know about that yeah so now it was that is a challenge carrying a buck over your shoulders out but there's something rewarding about it I think you know it's an animal you've killed you made a perfect shot um you know deer died quickly is a nice three by three buck good black tail um you only had a couple days to hunt essentially you know you got a full-time job coming back and forth traveling from Utah so we got it done but perfect shot I was I was impressed you were composed I'm glad the buck gave us a little time to get set up and get that rest I was a

little worried because you had a good rest there's a bipod on it Kevin has this gun set up really well but then the back of the stock was free so that was you had that in your shoulder but it's always best to have even a rest for that or for your elbow and you were kind of I was watching you were you know good on the front of the rifle kind of had to hold it on your own on the back and I was like how some people can screw that up but you did a great job loophole optics has been providing my binoculars and eyewear for the last few years I like that it's an Oregon company and they make such high quality glasses all I've really used and if you can't find what you're hunting it's going to be tough to kill so loophole optics has really played an

integral part in my success these last few years. Thank you, Lou Pold, for supporting the podcast. I mean, made an absolutely perfect shot, went through the top of the heart, and blew out the lungs also. So the deer, he was down in seconds, and that's what, you know, that's always the goal, a quick, merciful kill. Yep. And there's just something to the rewarding about getting a clean kill, getting the animal cleaned out, gutted, keeping that meat, just pristine.

and no dirt on it, no hair on it, and then packing it up to the truck. That's one reason why I like to do that is because you'll leave the hide-on. The meat's protected, whereas if you're getting quartered down there, you're opening the meat up to getting debris and dirt and different things on it. Yeah, 100% clean, packed it up, you know, 90 pounds hanging in at the meat processor. That's Gates, family tradition meats and cottage growth.

they do a great job. Shout out Tanner. Shout out Tanner Gates. Yeah, he's been, man, he's been pumping out the deer there. I mean, I think he, God, they had 70-some hanging. Is that right? They had 77 on one day, did 33, and then the next day they were up to 79 again. And then so he had to, had 80 deer that he had to go through.

I know. And I didn't realize they even gut them for some people. Like, I think he had 18 come in that he had to gut, the hunter, which I didn't realize that was the thing. Which I didn't realize. Like, how would you even get an entire deer to them? Yeah, I mean, they must be killing it by a road or something. Yeah.

But yeah, so he brought in, he charged, what did he say? He charged 50 bucks or 75 bucks to gut or 100 and some. 75 to gut and then to skin is 50. So it's like 125 to. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's not even cutting up the meat. No. Then you got the whole cutting up the meat part. But yeah, those guys work in their bus off during rifle season in Oregon.

A lot of blacktail hunters. But yeah, they always take really good care of us. We take it in that we're not expecting anybody to gut it or skin it for us. No. But they're professionals at processing. And I like keeping money local, keeping they just do a great job with the pepperoni and the hamburger and everything they offer for wild. game the bear that they do the pepperoni sticks out of bear some of my favorite but anyway so we've

got that done but yeah the hunt couldn't have went really any better had a great time me you tanner k a ron and baba the dream team yeah the dream team yeah that was fun yeah um yeah so what do you i mean hunting has been kind of off and on for you i mean i mean i I got you guys exposed to it pretty young. I just wanted to get you familiar with the process of hunting what is entailed. And then you guys are both pretty busy. You know, we hunted when we could, but, you know, with school and everything else. So what does hunting mean to you?

What is it, is it, is it, yeah, I mean, is it something that you just want to do? Or do you feel like a desire, like an urge to do it more? or is it just you like getting out there and having meat for the freezer? What is hunting to you? Yeah, I mean, I definitely like having a full freezer, not having to go to the store and just buy beef from the store. There's pride, obviously,

when you're able to kill it yourself and then bring it home. But no, I mean, like growing up, we would go out every single year, not by choice, by us. Because, I mean, what I always tell people is when we were kids, we'd go out hunting with you, didn't have a choice. And then it would be like the hardest thing we did all year. So, I mean, like, when you're always doing something that's really hard every time.

And I don't know if you know this about yourself, but you can be pretty intense. Me? Yeah. Yeah. Well, at least while hunting. And then so for me, I just kind of, I didn't want to deal with it anymore. I was just like, yeah. honestly it's pretty hard get yelled at i don't think i want to do it so the last hunt that we did for

like a long time was blacktail at that place that we just killed this last year i think i was 13 back in 2010 then i didn't hunt again until i was i think like 2018 so that's five years ago so 21 so i took like an eight year break from hunting and it wasn't even that i was busy I just, I don't know, I just didn't want to do it. And then we actually, when I got reintroduced to it in 2018, killed a black tail. And then I was just like, honestly, like that felt really good to do. And then so I just kind of, I got that fire back a little. And then from there, yeah, we've been going just about every year since then.

Went to Texas. Yeah, I went to Texas. and then Utah Elkhunt that we do every year, which I don't hump, but I just go with you so it's nice to get out. But, yeah, I mean, I just love getting out at this point and being able to just see anything is exciting. Like when you see something

and you actually have a chance at killing it, it's like, whoa. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, we did some hard hunts when you guys were young. So that was, I understand that that would have been, like most kids, hard is not really what drives. to haze them to hunting or to doing anything. Right.

Kids like to have a good time. You know what I mean? So yeah, we did some hard ones. We did a bear hunt in Hells Canyon, which was hard. Tanner did an elk hunt in the same country, which is hard. We went to Alaska, which was out with Roy hunting black bear. Those were very challenging long trips, no sleep. Africa was hard because long plane.

rides over there. Yeah, I had you, after you killed, I had you, we went out hunting and I said, you need to help the guys in the skin and shed. So all the pHs over there and the trackers, you helped them. How was that? I was the liability for sure. How old were you then? 13. 13. Yeah. So I was 13 and that would have been May of 2010. Then my last, hunt that I did for a while was October 2010 when I killed my first blacktail, my first and biggest. Yeah, that's a nice buck. Yeah. Yeah.

So how was working with the in the skinny shed? How long were you out there? Honestly, it, I'm pretty sure like I couldn't really understand what he was saying. And maybe I just like held the leg and whatnot out of the way from. him I definitely didn't use a knife. I was just like... You don't speak Swahili? No.

No, actually I don't. Yeah. But now, I mean, I pretty much just stood there. Yeah, so... But I did have you got them, got the animals, right? Yeah. The Impala, and then I got some... We hit the guts, so it was coming out a little.

We did? Well, I guess I did. Yeah. And then you and Anton, our guide, were like, oh, it's tradition that you eat the guts, at least a little bit of it. And then I was, you know, 13. So I didn't really know any better. And then got some on my finger.

And I was going for it. I was like, shoot, I guess this is what they do. I want to be respectful of traditions. And then at the last second, it was like, just kidding. Yeah. Yeah, and then I had already eaten all the guts, so it was too late. So that was probably, that probably caused you to not want to hunt. That was traumatic, I bet.

I have a lot of trauma. You've been sorting through? Yeah. Yeah. Now, I know, so you said you weren't excited because I was pretty too intense. Couldn't you just said, hey, dad, I just, I'm going to, don't feel like hunting. No, I might have said that, honestly. Did you?

I don't know. Like, for whatever reason you didn't force me. to hunt anymore. I think, yeah, you could just maybe tell that. Yeah, I mean, I do remember you got, then you got into track and cross country and yeah, you know, you were a good runner. So I wanted you to. That's true.

I mean, yeah, because then I was 14 freshman year and cross country is in the fall. So, I mean, it was probably something like that. And then I cared more about being Jack than anything. Yeah. Like even more so than running. I was talented. As a runner, my coach, Chase Wells, said that I'd be winning the district meet by the time I was a senior. But literally couldn't care less about that.

All I wanted to be was jacked. And you got, you were faster as a freshman. Were you faster as a freshman? Sophomore. Or sophomore, yeah. Sophomore was my fastest year. And I was 5, 410 pounds. And then when you were senior, what were you?

510, 150. Mm-hmm. And I thought I was stupid jacked then. And it didn't you look like I lifted? A little bit. I mean, it did. But you used to, you ran, it totally changed your running form because I don't know. I mean, you ran like you were pretty fluid.

Yeah. When you were skinnier. And you started lifting. And yeah, but I mean, kids, you know, teenagers, who knows what the hell teenagers think. I mean, it's no, of course, yeah, if you had dedicated yourself to running. And I told you, I said, you know, you. You could be really good at running. You could get a scholarship.

And I remember all you said was, I don't want to run for four more years after this. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't thinking ahead at all. Like, you know what? What could actually help me like in the long term? Yeah. The only thing that I cared about was just looking good.

Not even like being strong, just looking good. And then obviously, yeah, I mean, my priorities have shifted. But I don't know when. when you get the positive reinforcement, I mean, because I was skinny my entire life. Skinny and the smallest guy in the room. And now you're on steroids. And now I'm on steroids.

And get paid to do pull-ups if you ask people on the internet. Yeah. But no, I mean, always the smallest guy in the room. And then every kid wants to be strong and like look strong to other people. So once I got a little bit of that, like people are like, dang, have you been lifting? when I was like 15 and then like that just felt really good for me. And I was like, okay.

I think I could work with with this. And so priority, getting jacked. And then everything else took the back seat. Yeah. Well, hey, kids make, there's worse decisions kids make. That's true. I mean, that's not that bad I want to be in shape. So I mean, yeah, the running kind of took the backseat and you, you know,

you had some skill for it and some talent. But, you know, you still wanted to train. You know, you still were doing good in school. You weren't doing anything technically stupid like teenagers do. So it's like, whatever. It's just part of life, you know. Sometimes, you know, what your dad wants you to do, just any teenage boy especially can be pretty rebellious. So if your dad wants you to do it, like if I wanted you to hunt, it's pretty natural for a teenage boy to say, no, you want me to hunt.

I don't want to hunt. Yeah. Because it's just but biting heads. It's just like that's how teenagers kind of, you know, they mature and that's just you want to make your own decisions. That's just part of being a young man. Yep. No, I think it was a lot of that for sure. Just like, I don't know, you start to feel a little bit more like an adult and you're like,

I don't have to listen to you anymore even though I lived at home until I was 23 and I had to abide by your rules the entire time for sure. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, yeah, I mean, I know I'm, you know, hunting. I'm not the, I'm probably better now. I'm old as hell. But, yeah. And also it's like when I was working full time, then I was hunting, then, I mean, it was always like time was trying to stack a lot of stuff in a short amount of time. So it makes it pretty intense. And that's my personality. I know. I mean. It definitely gives me a different perspective being, because now I'm 26 and what, you were 25 when you first had Tanner? Yeah, I mean, I don't have any kids. So I can imagine like the stress you were under to, I mean, following your dream, being a bow hunter, and then writing and then sub, full time job and trying to do everything in between and be a dad. But people always, I think they assume they give you a hard time. And they're like, oh, you weren't around for your kids because you're too busy going on these hunts and whatnot. But almost every single basketball game for Tanner and I, you would be there.

I mean, you would be there. And a lot of the times we would wish that you weren't there because you were, you would always have something to say after the game if it didn't go well. Like, good job. Well, no, I just, I don't know, a lot of the times we struggle with both with, you would always tell us that we need to hustle more. and then obviously like looking back at it now we're like what the hell were we doing we're being lazy just like not being that intense on defense and whatnot not down for loose balls and uh but yeah i mean practice too you'd be there and then so if i did something stupid then you'd be like oh i could just you know yeah so yeah you were you were definitely there that's for sure maybe

maybe too often yeah uh man i'll tell you there is no there's no uh outlying or no rules to follow for being a dad that I knew of. So yeah, I learned on the fly and made a lot of mistakes. But you guys have, man, I mean, you guys and Taryn pretty proud. I don't know. That's from, I think, Tracy's influence more than mine. She's like offset the damage I did by whatever. I mean, she's pretty dang tough.

We got to give her credit. Basically the best mom you could ever ask for. Best mom you ever had. The best mom I've ever had for sure. But yeah, I mean, even, you know, you would always push us. And then mom would, you know, tell us, you know, you don't have to do that if you don't want to. And, you know, which she just loves us no matter what. She doesn't care if we accomplish anything if we push ourselves hard.

She's just like, you guys are perfect the way you are. Not saying you don't think that. but I know that you think that we have, you know, if we're not given our all, then you'll have something to say about it. Yeah. I think if I made, if I could go back,

maybe I would, you know, because I always like put a lot of emphasis on physical, uh, effort and ability and like all about performance. And performance can, it's one part of life, but you know,

the, the education. Of course, I'd want you guys. to get good grades, but it's always so focused on sports and physical attributes and physical performance. And so it's like, you know, I know that there's more to life than that. Yeah. No, I know. I mean, yeah, just kind of, it's all about how you determine success. Because, yeah, I mean, our whole thing was if you're the fastest, if you're the strongest,

if you're like the best basketball player, then that's basically like where your self-worth is going to come from. And so that's just, and that's what we did as kids. We just, and I mean, it did pay off in some aspects. Like in elementary school for me,

I was a kid that ran and was fast. And like people, you know, like amongst the other kids, they really respected that. And Tanner and I both actually, since we were like the only kids that would be out on a weekend running with our dads.

Not dads, but their dad. Yeah, we would be running on the weekends and we would just get better and better, obviously a lot more than the other kids because you're not going to get better at running unless you're doing it consistently. Tanner broke the school record for the mile. I think it was 638.

And then elementary school. Elementary school, Yolanda Elementary school, Mile. And then a few years later, when I got to the fifth grade, I did 628 and then I had the school record. So just like right there, like being able to win at something as a kid, it feels pretty dang good. Yeah. So I mean, I can't, you know, I can't complain. And then the joggathon too run around laps.

I set the school record and then at the assembly, they printed me off this huge piece of paper with a big star on it, 32 laps, school record. and then like everyone just applauded all the kids and you feel like a rock star so yeah hey guys you want to be as smart as famed neuroscientist andrew huberman phd at stanford well sadly that's probably not going to happen but i did find something that can help and that's hvm in ketone iq i actually down one right before reading this so if i sound decent it's probably why because i'm not sure if you guys realize how much brain power podcasting takes you're not sure if you guys realize how much brainpower podcasting takes, but whatever I can take that will at least make me sound smarter, I'm in. Ketone IQ is a clean energy boost without sugar or caffeine.

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No, I actually got decent grades. I know, you both did. I think I got like 3-1, 3-2. I was never a, I was never a genius. You were never Taryn. No, no, my sister is, she's really good at school. And I've never been that great. Yeah, you guys did good, though.

I mean, you guys were both smart kids. I mean, it's not every kid isn't going to be obsessed with grades. Like, you know, maybe we were with the physical part of, of running or basketball, you know, points, wins, whatever it is. But yeah, it's a balancing act and it's hard. It's, you know, I remember what it's like growing up and just, you know, as a boy, you're always, it feels like you're always searching for something. It's like you never really know what it means to be.

I don't remember what it means to be happy. So I was like, what, what feels good, you know? And it's like, it's hard. It's hard because other young boys are feeling the same way and so tough on each other. And, you know, it's, yeah. Fucking tough to be to grow up. Yeah, I mean, what? I forget the exact details of the story, but you would run a mile before school every day?

Yeah, but I was five. I didn't even know you were in school when you were five. Yeah, no, I started when I was five for some reason. And like I said, I think my mom just wanted to get rid of me. So she's like, can this little fucker start school now? Yeah. So what? She dropped you off at like 6 a.m. or what?

No, I walked to school. Oh. Yeah. That was back when parents didn't really care about their kids. But, yeah, didn't you end up getting a school record of some kind? Like, good job, Cam. You ran 100 miles in a month. Yeah.

I got the school record for getting in trouble. I wrote FUK on the chalkboard. The teacher was out, so that was a record. Dang. No, I ran like, it was a month of something like October, I think, but it was however many miles you could run on your own time. So it was before school I'd go and I'd run a mile every day when I was five. I was at five in the first grade.

So like the first two years, I'd go and I don't know, I can't remember for the school record, probably, probably a world record. But I think I ran 20-some miles. So like there's 20 school days in the year in the in the month of October, which I think is when it was. And so I'd run a mile every day, which, you know, for my, I was also small. Yeah, pretty good for being five. Yeah. But yeah, so it was like, but that whole that stemmed back from my dad too.

My dad was a track star, you know, everybody and Eugene knew him. And he was, he worked at Eugene Athletic, which is down on the mall here in Texas. And so I would go to Eugene Athletic and my dad was like shoe guy and he'd get people set up with shoes because he's been a track coach or track athlete than a track coach. But in between he he worked there. So it was always like shoes and performance and running and track, track meets a Hayward field. And so that was, I was like, okay, if I, to get my dad's approval, I need to, you know, run. And my mom had ever divorced at this time. But yeah, so it's always, I know, like I said, I.

I just know how it feels. I remember how I felt and it's just like you're trying to get, you know, attention for something. And for me, running gave it to me. And so that's kind of what I tried to pass on to you guys, I guess, whether you wanted to or not. Yeah. I mean, yeah, running's always been a big part of our lives for sure. I forget the time at a Hayward. You were just able to go there and run as long as you wanted before they just remodeled it and whatnot.

but when I wore that all gold outfit, and then we did like, we did like 20 laps. Yeah, I think, I can't remember how old you were, but we went over there one night. It was dark. Yeah. And you just kept running. Yeah.

I don't, I don't remember how old you were. I don't know. Tanner, do you remember? No. Had to have been like five or six. Yeah, pretty young. But I ran, so what? You ran four or five miles?

Yeah, I think it was like 20 laps. And I just remember like getting up like to 10, 11, 12. And then you're like, I can't believe you're still going. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, well, you haven't seen nothing yet. I don't want to keep going. And then that felt that felt really good. And then the first time I broke an eight-minute mile too was a big deal for me.

Because I mean, I think I was a first grade. You know, we would always run and try to break it. And then I would hyperventilate. which I don't even know. I've never done that since like being a kid. Like when you're a kid, you just, I don't know, get too, like you start to panic maybe because it hurts or you're breathing. Like your heart rate gets up too high maybe and you don't know how to handle it.

Yeah, I think you kind of are being dramatic. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Like that's your way out. You're like, obviously he's not going to keep going if he's going. Yeah. Because I don't know about all kids, but all you kids kind of, I don't remember Tanner doing it, but I know Taryn has done it. So, yeah, I think it's just- Tanner didn't do it?

I don't think, I don't remember. Damn, tougher than me. Yeah, he's always been pretty tough. But yeah, you guys, you know, what other kids were going and running Pisco when they were young, not, I don't see too many kids these days running Piscuit and you guys had to do it all the time. Or did you want to or did you have to? No, we had to. We had to for sure. But yeah, that was, I mean, we just talked about this earlier today, but when Tanner and I raced up Piscay, and I was, I had to have been like seven. So that means Tanner was 10. And then we were just talking trash up until Piscata and just saying how, oh, man, I'm going to smoke you. And then, I mean, as a seven-year-old, I can't imagine my comebacks were too great. And I couldn't really talk.

Yeah. Couldn't say my R's and S's. Yeah. But yeah, and then we got there. I had been training, like actually pretty decently just running with you on the weekends. I don't think Tanner had been. Maybe he was doing sports so he wasn't running as much. And so we take off sprinting in the beginning. Do you remember that?

Yeah. And then we got to like up the first hill and then Tanner, he bowed out. He sat off on the side of the trail and just hands on his lap and just like watch me. just keep go keep going and then um i got all the way up i don't even know how far ahead but uh i looked back right before i turned the corner where he was still in view and i saw him and him and you now heading up starting to run and i was like oh shoot i was like it looks like my dad has forced him and then uh i get all the way almost to the end and then uh here comes stanner and he's going strong and I'm starting to feel it at this point. Lactic acid build up and then grab my calves

and I fall down to the ground like wiggle just because like it hurts so bad and I had been running so hard what I thought and then here comes Tanner stronger than ever and then I fall down and then now you have to help me and I think you picked me up and then we started to go and then I almost ended up catching Tanner as like a sprint towards the monument at the end and then he actually he beat me in the end so and that's another thing i've never actually beat tanner in anything which is crazy yeah yeah because i mean i've been a better runner like fastest marathon 257 um i don't even know i think tanners is 3 30 oh is it 340 yeah well anyway i've been faster but in every single head-to-head race, never beat him.

Not once. It's like the classic Big Brother thing. Yeah. And then basketball, never beat him in a game of one-on-one. And all the last time we played was, I don't know, a while ago, but I was an adult, full-grown, and still couldn't get it done. Like, growing up, it makes sense, you're smaller. But no, I just couldn't.

And then I don't know. We probably, has Tanner beat you in one-on-one? now? Yeah. Yeah, but like as kids, that was impossible. I don't think so. Did you ever as a kid? Yeah, but yeah, we quit once he, what's that?

It got pretty brutal out there. Yeah, we, there were some pretty intense games. Yeah. I mean, and I think Tanner was, I don't even know how old, maybe 13, 13, 14, you guys would have some pretty, it's like, what's that movie? Oh, with Denzel. Denzel, he got game. He got game.

Tanner was Jesus' shells. Yeah. Okay. If I, I don't really want to get into all my vices, but one big one is very competitive and also not nice. So, yeah, we, yeah, we had some epic one-on-ones. But, yeah, once Tanner got in high, maybe older in high school, yeah, I couldn't beat him. He got he's really good of basketball.

But up until whatever, yeah, I mean, but we would go, you guys are tough. You guys are fucking tough kids. That's all there's to it. Yeah. You came up doing hard things, a lot of hard things, a lot of digging. You mentioned the race up Piscan. It sounds like kind of silly, but man, you guys developed an edge, you know, because pushing that hard and racing and hurting that bad. and still getting it done,

that's, to me, that's valuable life lessons. And that carries over, because you still remember it, you know? Yeah. And you remember what that feels like,

and you remember what it, how it feels to dig deep. Well, I mean, you would, yeah, it's like you learned if you train hard for something

and you really want it, you're going to get it done. Like, you get better. And that's, I mean, that's like we practice, would run a mile

on the weekends at the track, just training for the, school record and then was able to get it done. But yeah, it's like if you, if you set out of time, make time for something to get better at it, then it's going to show. And that's one thing that we learned. Yeah. I mean, what, what I can't remember, I mean, I think I said it many times, but I know I talked to Tanner about it, but it was like, because I'm in the same boat. You guys

were way more talented than me, but I just said that if you guys do what everybody else does, you're going to be pretty much about everybody else because you're pretty average as far as, you know, you didn't have a 40 inch vertical, weren't the biggest. So it's like if you just do the average effort, just do like go to practice, just like everybody else, okay, you're just going to be whatever.

You're going to kind of just middle a pack. Yep. Hoyt archery has been my bow hunting sponsor since 2005. And personally, I really don't care what bow you should. what brand it is. I just hope that you have the same level of confidence in your equipment as I have in mind

because I know if I get one opportunity with my Hoyt, it's going to pay off. But if we outwork everybody else, then who knows? Yeah. You know, and I was very proud of Tanner took that. We shot threes after his practice, like every night, you know,

getting first team all league in basketball. And, you know, that was, to me that I love seeing him have that success because that that showed okay this does work right you work your ass off there are rewards and um that's the only that's all I tried to really um just just just I just wanted you guys to understand that part of it and it seems like you both did because you both have been very hard worker well one thing you would always say to us is um like you'll thank me eventually All parents say that, though.

You'll thank me later. Yeah, I know. But I mean, I guess that's actually true, though. Like, looking back at it, I'm like, geez, I could have been so soft as a kid. And then, like, the fact that, like, you just wouldn't really allow it or, like, you want to entertain the idea of us just being able to do whatever we wanted to do. And, like, just be lazy, play video games. It's carried over to my adult life. Yeah, I made quite the impression, so.

So don't you have something to say to me? Thank you, I guess. Just kidding. Yeah. So, I mean, let's talk about, you know, everybody watched in his senior journey in the pull-ups. And I think that started. You can explain it, but where did the journey with pull-ups start for you? Yeah, pull-it specifically.

Well, I will say when I was lifting consistently in high school, one thing that I was always good at was pull-ups. I'd be able to bust out like 20 in a row And that was a lot back then Like in high school And then we met Gagins back in 2018 And we did that 50K Then we went to the gym Worked out for an hour

And then after the workout Gagins Did 100 after every single Like that's how he would finish That was like his finisher And then so he would do five Walked the other side of the gym Walked back do five

And then so he just kept doing that until 100 And then I was like, I was like, dang, that's actually, that looks pretty cool. And then so I started to do that. And that was back in 2018. You did 100 within that night, too, didn't you? Or did you not? Actually, I don't think I did. Oh, you didn't?

No, I was pretty gassed. It was a hard workout. Yeah. A lot of people see the video and they see. 25s. They see the 25s on the incline. They're like, oh, these goes, whatever. You know how people on the internet are, just fucking complete dumb fucks.

But they talk. about the 95 but uh they talk about the 95 pounds but god we had done so many reps of everything before i mean the 50k alone we're at 30 some miles that morning and that was your first 50k right yeah yeah first 50k did it in a five hours and 56 minutes yeah and that's not the easiest 50k that's on pisca so you're doing pretty much four summits yep in in 30 k two miles or whatever it was on a cold, rainy, maybe snowy day. It was cold, yeah. Yeah.

It was cold and muddy. So he started off with that. Then we did this. Goggins likes to say animalistic workout. Yeah. Which was hard. I don't know how many reps who did, but probably 600, I think, if we counted everything out. Yeah.

And then, yeah, then he did the 100 pull-ups. I didn't. I didn't know if you did. I was like pretending like I had to go do something. Yeah, you had a business meeting or something. Yeah. But no, so I saw that. Then I was like, well, I think I can do that, like, every day and just whatever.

I didn't even have any goals in mind. I was just like, oh, 100 pull-ups today. That's what Goggins does. That's what I'll do. And so I did that. And then I got the idea in like 2020, early 2020. Well, because actually, now that I think about it, on Christmas, no, on Christmas. No, on New Year's Eve, 2019.

So like just about to be 2020. I did a thousand out here in this gym. And then you came out and took pictures. Do you remember that? Yeah. The picture sucked. Yeah, the picture sucked. I remember that, too.

We wanted you to look all jacked or we were hoping, but yeah, I don't know, the light sucked or you weren't jacked or something. And I had a bunch of back knee. So that doesn't look cool. No. Because of the roids. But no. Did 1,000 in like five hours. First of all, I just want to say,

anybody who says Truitts on steroids doesn't really know how obsessed you are about your hair and skin. Because... Oh, yeah, like I want to jeopardize that. I don't think so. I mean, the way you carry on about everything and your complexion,

because that kind of goes hand in hand with steroid use, apparently, people say. So I think that alone would Well definitely the hair Well I mean acne was a big thing for me too Growing up like in high school That was that was tough to deal with So I don't see you doing taking anything that could

No Could kickstart any of those issues So yeah I mean for people like to talk shit You have no idea what goes on to this kid's head About his hair and complexion But anyway Go ahead So yeah, I did a thousand.

So this was, it went into 2020 January 1st. And then Tanner, this was when he was a ranger. He went to his gym after I did the thousand because whatever, like we like to compete physical competitions. He ended up doing 1,200. I think that was in January or February. He did 1,200 in a 12-hour window. and then I wanted to see how much I could get in a 12-hour window. Then I ended up doing 2,100 out here in this gym.

And then, yeah, I just kind of wanted to see how far I could take it. Gaggins record was in my mind because he said in 2013 did 4,030 pull-ups. And I was like, geez, I'm over halfway there. In 12 hours. In 12 hours. Like, I could definitely, if I just kept training, I could definitely do this. And so in April 2020, I did 4,100 and 17 hours. my hands all torn up everyone and their mom has seen that video and everyone and their mom thought

that I had the world record after that and I didn't the world record at that time was 7,715 so I wasn't even close was that the ranger who had that Brandon Tucker yeah yeah yep he had the record and yeah just like in 19 and a half hours too so he was so much more than 4,000 I mean you're getting close to double and your 4,000 and kicked your ass. Kicked my ass and my hands were just absolutely fried. And yeah, I mean,

I think when you kind of tell yourself, like what's possible and whatnot, like you kind of set limitations. Like, I was done at 4,100. There was no hope of going more. Like, I was just so done.

And I think physically your body kind of gives up when you, like, set a limit. But then, I mean, people kept saying like, man, congratulations on the world record.

And I didn't have it. And then, so I kind of felt like a fraud, even though like I did something that was hard, but people thought I did something that was even more spectacular. And then I was like, wouldn't it be cool if I actually did have the world record so that I wouldn't have to feel like this?

And people always coming up to me and saying, well, dude, do you sell the record? It's like, no, I never did. So then whatever, did pull-ups for like a few years every single day. Just like I went up to like 200 reps and I figured that was enough because I had the idea of, okay i'm going to break this 70 or 7715 and then um that record got broken 8 0008 by jackson

italiano from australia and then um i was telling my wife that i i needed something uh to like work towards this was earlier this year 23 and i was like i i need to like i need to like push myself in something because like just lifting and whatnot not not having a goal it's it's just like kind of getting old. And then she was like, well, yeah, apply for the record on Guinness and go for that, break that, because you know that you can do that easily. And then in my, in my mind, yeah, in my mind, this is how delusional I was. It was going to be easy. I remember dinner. The dinner the night before. You and Tanner, I think Alicia was there, obviously, but. Candace. And Candice, yeah, went out to dinner and you said, yeah, I don't think it's going to be that hard. Yeah, I said,

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April 22nd, did 4,100 again and in 12 hours, but the last thousand were pretty iffy reps because I was so gassed. Definitely didn't train hard enough. And I found that out on game day when I got the cameras, got the cameraman to come out,

flew people out, everyone was there, and then live stream going. And then obviously I failed in front of them. like by half I got half of what I was supposed to do and I was absolutely done

and then I remember driving to a restaurant we went and ate after and I told myself I didn't say it out loud I was like I am never doing that again because it just you know it's miserable you fail and

physically I was like I probably just can't do it but then I didn't realize like how much training actually pays off like I just had to find a different level of dedication. I mean, on that day specifically, so I went April 22nd, I failed,

and then trained for like three weeks, doing like a thousand, and wasn't getting any easier. Just like every single rap was hard, and it's hours going by. Like, that's how I'm spending my free time is just doing a bunch of pull-ups. And so I got to kind of a breaking point

because on a day that I was supposed to do, 3,000. I did 800. And then I called my wife and I was like, I don't even know why I'm doing this. I was like, this is stupid. I was like, it doesn't even make sense, like why I think I could do this,

do something that never has been done before, which is over 8,0008 pull-ups. And I was like, I don't even think I'm physically built for it. The other guys are lighter than I am. So like I'm at a disadvantage. And it's not getting any easier. I've been training for a long time. And then so I built up all the excuses.

And then, well, I basically allowed myself to quit. And I told my wife that it was over and then was driving. And then I texted you. And I was like, do you think I'm a failure if I don't try for the pull-up record again? And then that's when you said, no, I think you just need to take a break. And as long as you're working towards something, like, that's all that matters. You know, that's a good answer. obviously you don't want to be like yeah you're going to be a failure but yeah and then so I was

pretty content for like a few hours of being like yeah yeah I'm just gonna go back to lifting try to get jacked and uh whatever not going to do the pull-ups I actually went through uh my captions on Instagram and I deleted like another training week in the books uh for the world record because I was just like screw this I'm I'm totally bowing out and I don't want you wanted to know that like I was going to try to go for it again yeah so I was covering my tracks and then um I was sitting on the couch later that day and I was like shoot I might as well just see this thing through I need to I need to see if I can actually do this it's like what's the worst that can happen I I train harder this time around I'll at least get closer and then I can be done

give it one more good effort yeah one more good effort just because I already laid it out there after I failed I was like oh yeah I'll come back better than ever so I already kind of screwed myself by saying like i'm going to try again and then um yeah so that was a month later when that happened when i did the 800 on the day of the 3 000 and then um next day or so started doing pull-ups again stuck with it for the next uh five months and then just trained really hard and um yeah got got to a point to where i could do 5,012 hours and um and then yeah i I was pretty ready for the next attempt for sure. And so that went just perfect, no issues.

On the day? No, I wouldn't say that. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy because train my ass off. I mean, like the dedication was pretty crazy. You know, like three times a week is what I would do, 2,000 reps. And that would take usually four hours. I saw on social media that that's not possible to do 2000.

Oh, yeah. No, I've seen that too. I've actually seen that after the fact. Now that I've done 8,100 pull-ups, people will say on a video where I say like 1,000 before, work, 1,000 after, because that's what I would do. They would say, ha-ha, 2000 in one day, that's impossible. And then I would reply, which feels pretty good. But I would say, do me a favor and look up on Google, most pull-ups in 24 hours.

let me know what name you see then come back yeah and then so you know obviously up pop this my name um and that feels that feels pretty good and then it's like well maybe 2000 is believable if i did four times that amount yeah but yeah on actual game day i you know everything was going well um and i got to like um i think it was like around 5 000 is when i started to slow down I was just getting gassed. And I had been gone for like 13 hours. So like when you're doing something for that long, it's, you know, fatigue's going to kick in. Well, it was interesting too because you had done 5,000 and 12 hours and you said you felt good in training.

Yeah. And so you kind of had in your head that you should be able to get to 5,000 and 12 hours. And then, but then on game day, you were feeling more fatigued than on that one training day. And that's just a hard thing about, you know, I related to people who have to run the Olympics, they get one day they got to be at their best. And you had this date picked. You had people flew in.

You had, you know, Guinness, the application for that day. You had the live stream. So it's like you have to perform whether you feel good or not. Yep. This is the day. Yeah. And I mean, just like NBA players, like Steph Curry can hit 13 threes one day. Then the next day he's won, 4, 15.

Yeah. Just like you never really know, like, how it's going to go. So, I mean, I was, you know, I went for it, was still making, you know, do 5,013 hours. You're still on pace for sure. But yeah, I mean, my stomach was absolutely on the fritz. I just had so much candy and I thought that was a way to go. And then it was bubbling and whatnot. And I spent probably like an hour total on the toilet, just diarrhea, just gassing it up.

And yeah, so my stomach was just like all over the place. That kind of took me out of it, took me out of the groove. I never had that issue in training. So that was a new thing. And then I just had to find a way to just keep going. And then, you know, as you know, like when you do the 200 mile races, you run 20 miles and that's a long run. But you're not even close to being there.

Yeah. It's like you did 240 miles. So you still have 220 left. And if you think about it like that, every mile that you do literally doesn't mean anything. But like you're getting closer. So I mean, when I got to 5,000, I still had 3,000 left. And every rep now I had to earn. It wasn't getting any easier.

And then it can be hard to see like the light at the end of the tunnel when you're like that. Because then you start saying to yourself, how many am I doing a minute? And then how many more hours am I going to have to go? and then how many reps is that going to be? And it hurts now, so it's going to hurt, just continue to get worse and worse as time goes on. And it's like, geez, I do five reps. I got 3,000 left.

I'm not even getting closer to the goal. But then it's like, just like the 200-mile races, every step ends up counting because you just get closer and closer to the end goal. And then before you know it, like after three days go by, you're there. Yeah. And you never thought it. it would be possible. But it's like as long as you just keep going, you're going to get there.

So I mean, that was that was a big mental barrier to cross. Yeah. Because I remember you were saying that, I mean, you were talking, you kept thinking about numbers and time and doing the math. Yep. And trying to do math and your brain's just fried because you've been doing pull-ups for 15 hours or whatever it is. It'd be pretty, you know, you're just like, it's, I can't remember what you said, but, you know, something like, it's not, it's not going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, at that point, that was 6,600. I was doing about three a minute, which is 180 an hour. Yeah.

It's not a lot. No. I wouldn't have been on pace. Like, I would have come up short if I kept that up. So it was at 6,600 and you did the, I forget what the look is, but you kind of went like, like, look back at Tanner, like, I don't think this is going to happen. And then I could tell that, like, the energy in the room was like, oh, like this isn't going well he's slowing down i went to the live stream so the comments are like

you know it's really rooting for trua but doesn't look like he's going to get it you're like with this pace and people saying that like yeah no he's not going to be able to get it and whatnot and then so he's really slowing down really slowing down yeah and then i told my wife i was like yeah we need to face reality i was like this isn't going to happen i was like there's not enough time i wasted too much time on the toilet just like things weren't going my way so like I that I was pretty much like looking for a way out of people being like yeah no I mean I get it like you had diarrhea so you can you can quit and feel good about it um and then so I was looking for that and then I I never got it from her I mean she was pretty upset because well I it's like you trained to be in that exact position

I was 17 hours in. 6,600 reps down. I just have 1,400 left. It's like, and then you told me the story about Courtney, about how her first 100-mile race, she got to like 60 miles. And then she didn't realize that was part of 100-mile races is how bad it hurts.

The pain. Yeah, the pain. She was like, oh, that's just like part of it. And then so like the next time that she did go out, she was like, yeah, no, this is just like part of the equation. and then like you got to push past that pain. So you told me that like what separates like winners and losers is winners like when it hurts, they're able to push past it.

And that's what makes them great. Whereas like other people, they feel pain. Then they quit. And then you're like, I mean, did you think that this was going to be easy? And like you're the one who brought this upon yourself. And I was like, you know, you never really know what's going to get through to someone when they're just going through hell. but like those words stuck with me and then um my wife felicia crying too just like seeing your wife cry you're just like jeez i i need to get myself together and then so i was doing three a minute like

i said and uh and then just you know kind of gave it a go i mean eric he said it best eric mcormick our friend um he was like every time you've touched that bar you've been successful So like I never had any failed reps. I was still going strong. It's just mentally I wasn't there. Mentally I didn't have the edge, but physically I was still going strong. You just had to get on that bar.

I just had to get on the bar, yeah. And you were like looking at the bar a lot, but once you grabbed it, you did a pull-up every time you tried. Yep. Yeah. And then so, you know, I felt I was still like battling with myself. I was like, am I actually going to do this?

Well, I remember the first time, Well, in April, I just said, your body was, it's just not going to happen. No. I was feeling reps. To Alicia on the corner, I said, it's not happening today. And she started crying then too. But I was just like, it's just, you know, your body just couldn't do it. This time your body could do it.

It was your mind. Yeah. And so never said that yes, not going to happen because I could see your body was fine. It was just that. but it's so mental too because it hurts so bad and you're you know you're fatigued but your body's still performing I mean at midnight is when I really started to feel it and I was just like I was really like this isn't going to happen at that point you're um for me I was 17 hours in 17 hours of standing in that spot doing pull-ups for 17 straight hours yeah like naturally you're just going to

lose your mind and so I kind of did and I remember I went to the bathroom and I looked myself on the mirror at like 66, 6,700. And I was like, I was like, you have more in you. I was like, you can do this. You just, you need to find a different gear. Went back out. And then I kind of decided like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and try to do this instead of just feeling sorry for myself and scared of how bad it's going to hurt.

I'm just going to try. And worse that's going to happen is I'm going to. end up failing but at least i gave it my all so i asked for some shades sunglasses so i could just zone out asked my brother to play some suicide boys as loud as possible um chug some caffeine and then uh just went to town started doing this is like 17 18 hours in started doing um 3 every 30 seconds so 6 a minute when i was doing 3 a minute just prior and the only thing that changed was mentally I was like I got to just I got to go and then um yeah and then before I knew it I was up to a 7,000 and then I was just like nod in my head listening to the music and

pointing at like the live stream just saying to myself like you guys have seen nothing yet like you guys thought that I was done no no I'm just warming up and then so I got to 7000 had a thousand left and at that point like I passed that mental barrier And I was like, shoot, I can do this thing. 3 a.m. rolls around, been going for at this point 20 hours. And then feeling stronger than ever, get to like 7,500 still feeling strong. But then I kind of realized at that point, I was like, shoot, I still have 500 reps left. And I got to earn every single one.

Yeah. And 500 is still a lot. 500 is still a lot. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I mean, just kept going, kept going. And like I said, just you keep chipping away. Don't focus on anything other than chipping away. And then you're going to get there eventually. And that's what I was able to do and able to set the world record. And I mean, I was completely done mentally. Like, I was going to announce it to everyone to say, hey, by the way, this isn't going to happen again. You guys can leave.

But then I got to 7,000. I was like, geez, I'm part of the 7,000. club and I was like okay let's keep going let's see how far we can take this and I got to 7900 then I remember going over to you I was at like 7999 and like 93 and then I just like tapped you on the shoulder and I was like can you believe that like I'm I'm gonna get it and then so like once that moment kicked in it was pretty impactful for me just like I don't know I don't think people make themselves proud that often but like in myself I was I was actually proud Because you didn't quit. Because I didn't quit.

And then I know people are like, yeah, well, that's a stupid goal anyway. People have been saying that. Because I explain like the context, videos on my hands. And then they're like, that's a stupid thing to even do to yourself. And it's like, yeah, but not all of our goals are the same. Your goals are probably stupid. To other people. Yeah, to other people.

But this is what I wanted to do. And I was able to do it. And I was proud of myself. And that felt pretty dang good. Yeah. To do the most pull-ups in 24 hours in the history of man, that's kind of cool. Yeah. People can discount it all they want. But it's never been done before.

No, it's a workout that people do all the time. Yeah. And then so, like, to be able to say like, oh. And 10 is hard. For a normal man, 10 pull-ups is freaking hard. I know. I mean, yeah, I started out doing sets of 10 all the way until like 3,000 and then drop down to like sets of five and whatnot but yeah it's just you know the training obviously it pays off

like we were saying on our run today i didn't become the best in the world on that day October 14th i did it in training and then i just proved it on that day like i built myself up to where i was the best um during training when no one else was there just me myself the bar and um and um and music and then just cranking away and then that's how i got to be able to do 8100 so training what so what do you think motivated you to to do the most in history what was what was your number one motivation there probably is multiple things but what stands out well this sounds kind of funny but um you know rational redneck uh uh uh I do.

Super fan. But no, he, when I said the day before, like, I'm going to go for the record, he commented and said that he has, he can guarantee 100% that I'm going to fail, and then he'll reveal his identity if I do accomplish it. And then so when I was feeling sorry for myself at 6,600, I was like, damn, like, I really don't want this guy to be right. Because he was 100% certain that I wasn't going to do it. Yeah.

So I was like, I honestly thought about that and I know he's a he's just like kidding or maybe I think it's satire. It's just he's a troll. He's just having fun. He's just having fun. I think he's hilarious. Yes, but some of the things kind of kind of burn away at you. And then also people saying that like I failed miserably the first time.

2000's impossible. I want to have the fuel or the fire like the truth of it to be like, yeah, by the way, I have the world. record. So I had a lot of motivation. Just proven people wrong. Just to prove people wrong for sure. Because I don't know, people, people when you claim to do something that's like physically challenging, I don't know what it is, but people just want to discount it like immediately. Like they don't want to give you that satisfaction. It's like, oh, if I can't do it, then he definitely can't. And then so, I mean, that's, I just been dealing with that the last few months. And then so I just, I really wanted to prove those people wrong.

Wanted to make my wife proud. And then make everyone they're proud that like they came out to support me. They believed in me. They believed that I could do it. And I just wanted to make everyone proud. So yeah, I just buckled down. Do you, you know, it's weird now because social media is such a big part of our lives these days. You know, almost everybody's on social media at some point, either looking at things or posting

things and but a big part of that is we judge each other you know so um do you think about like who's going to see what you're doing and who's either proven them wrong or proving them right because there's people who believe in you like guggins has believed in you you know so people like even like joe has would believe in you but how much does that weigh in like yeah you want to prove rational redneck wrong even though he's kind of joking around yeah but all Also, there's a lot of people who they just hate on winners. I mean, that's just people who succeed. You're going to get hate.

You're going to get hate from people who haven't achieved what they wanted to. So they feel bad about where they are in life. So they want to make you feel bad. Have you ever dealt with that? Yeah. I mean, I feel, I mean, it's, you know, some people are better at it than others. But yeah, of course it affects any. We're humans.

We're not, we're not designed. to deal with acceptance or criticism from millions of people. And right now millions of people can weigh in on your life. Yeah, I mean, social media is such a new thing to where like, if you're doing 2,000 pull-ups a day and then, or I mean, and again, I wasn't doing 2,000 pull-ups a day. That would be 14,000 a week. I was doing 6,000 a week typically.

See, you're lying again. Yeah, so I am a liar. But no, like if someone before social media, You said that you did that. Then someone said, no, you didn't. You're a liar. You would probably fight that person. But since it's social media, they can say whatever and not have any consequences.

And like they can call you a liar and then they don't have to deal with it at all, like what you might do. So yeah, I mean, I would think about that stuff all the time during training and that, you know, that just motivated me even more. But now social media is just so weird. I mean, I used to give you a hard time about like, why do you even respond to these people? Like, it doesn't even make sense. Like, why I entertain it. But now I get it. It's like, it just pisses you off sometimes.

Yeah, especially to me it's different when, or it's not different, but because everybody's affected in different ways. But when you work your ass off or something. Right. And you've like dedicated so much time and effort and mental energy and physical energy. And then somebody wants to critique that. that because you work so you work your ass off to what to do whatever you're doing that impacts you're like i've been fucking busting my ass and you can just you know discount it with i mean say whatever yeah you know and you know as uh you know i keep talking about i talked about you guys

as young men but men in general in this day and age it's a weird time you know because you know, as a hunter, like not everybody hunts or not everybody hunts the same way or so. It's like men love to judge each other in that realm or if it's physical, every man sees himself and compares himself to other men or not every man, but most men. And then they feel like it's a reflection on them. So it's just like in this in this scope of hunting physical ability and attributes and all the stuff, it's like men are. are, you know, it's hardly ever women weighing in with negativity or talking shit.

It's never women. No. It's fucking other guys. I don't have any woman haters. Yeah. And it's just like, it's fine because that's just the way it goes. And that's just, that's life. But yeah, I mean, there's times where you like, God damn, these guys suck.

Yeah, I mean, you're drawn to the negative too. Yeah. negativity bias. You can have a hundred positive comments, and then that one is just like, oh, you idiot. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's just the way it goes.

I mean, as everybody likes to claim is, oh, just ignore the comments or don't read them. It's like, okay, everybody looks at them. And it's just whatever. I guess the more success you have, it's, I think even the most successful people in the world still hear the negative. You still, LeBron, how much shit does he get?

And he reacts to it sometimes. I've contributed to that. I know. It's just the way it goes. But yeah, I'm, I mean, I have, I get a, I get more motivation of weak men being pathetic than I do off supporters. Yeah. I mean, that's just, and that's, hey,

whatever fuels you great but uh yeah i mean at the end of the day in the in truth it's like you look around and you're like how could we how could we be impacted negatively by anything because been blessed by so much yeah you know we're so we have you know our families healthy loves each other it's just like and you're gonna let some stranger impact you it's it's pretty crazy but uh so at the end of the day i look around and i'm like god i got i got so much i've you know me personally i've outdone my ability or what i deserved by 10 times and so i can't you know there's nothing i could say that that would change that i don't deserve to be where i'm at you boys you guys have worked your asses off you're pretty much your whole life

So you've earned whatever you have. You have the world record. You earned it. People can say whatever. Fuck them. Yeah. And I will say this about it. Like, you know, people give me a lot of props because the pull-ups and whatnot.

But and Tanner's not on this podcast, but he's recording. I can be tough for like one day. You know, like one day. That's what I have my mindset on. It's like, yeah, I can be tough and I can bust this thing out. but you know Tanner he's had to be tough for four years straight just being a ranger and whatnot so it's like

you gotta give credit he's tough and then sometimes I am but I mean definitely it's like I don't know you gotta earn it and that's that's what I was able to do on that day so yeah it's perspective you you yeah for one day you're really good

there's people like you know When I look at this too, like people, I can be pretty tough for certain stretches, but I look at Roy, he was always tougher than me, always more of a badass in the mountains. And so, yeah, to me, it's like we can learn and grow from people like that. So I would look at Roy, he would help me be better. I wouldn't look at him and go, you know, think negatively and think that, oh, I'm better than this. Just like you don't look at Tanner and say that, you know, you're tougher, you're better. you look at him and you're like, you know, he's done this for longer than me. I can push through one day.

You know, so it's all how you look at it where I feel bad for the people who do are the shit talkers on social media. It's like they're using it for the wrong reason. It's like how, why don't you use it to better yourself or to be inspired? And, you know, it sounds cliche and sounds like, oh, pie in the sky. But it's true. You know, you can look at this. same circumstance two different people once inspired and they get better and they're they grow one is

negative and it impacts them and they're miserable yeah I mean what do you what do you want to what do you want to do I don't think people realize how mental a lot of their life is yeah you know just like it's it really comes down to perspective and mindset um just like someone close to me um they're like clinically depressed is what some people would call it like oh we want to put you on um is that anxiety medication like lexapro or whatever or depression medication to make you uh feel happier and whatnot um and then wasn't happy on that felt terrible and uh and then ask them like how they are every week how you doing oh um i'm okay but life sucks like there's no point in living it's just whatever it's just every day I'm not working towards anything.

And then so it's doing terrible. And then, and now I ask, and I'm not sure what changed, I think it was just a mental, but now I ask like, how's it going? It's like, oh, you know, I'm doing good. You know, just like life's good. And I'm kind of like changing things around my, just the way that I think about things.

So the circumstance didn't change. No, circumstance didn't change just perspective. Mindset. And then completely cured himself. just because he was like, you know, I want to quit saying, because I told him before, I was like, you know, you think you're probably depressed because you always say, oh, life is, it's not worth living. It's like, do you think that has a effect on you? And he's like, yeah, you know what, probably. He's like, if you're always telling yourself that, then yeah.

And then so as soon as you stop saying that and then you're just like, you know, I have a lot to be thankful for and a lot to be grateful for and I still have my health and able by. it's like, geez, I should really stop complaining. And it makes a huge difference. Yeah. Just like me being able to do the pull-ups, I was completely done mentally. And then physically I wasn't. And then I completely switched mentally and I was able to do it. Yeah.

It's just like the only thing that changed was mental. Yeah. It's a, you know, it's again, a cliche. But that self-talk is so important, you know, what you're telling yourself matters. Yeah. And, you know, it's, yeah, I mean, I haven't been immune to it either. And what helps me is when I get out, if I get out, run the mountain, do something, shoot my bow, get outside, do something. If people are just staying inside all the time and just thinking about how miserable they are, it's going to be really tough to change that.

Yeah, that's the other thing is I don't think people get outside enough. I'm not giving advice on how to live your life. but like it can actually be hard getting outside for for an hour if you're not just going out going out on a walk like if you work in an office it can be hard to set aside time because you get to work at nine get off at five and then you have kids and you want to see your wife and whatnot and then it's like oh now it's nighttime i'm not going to go wow i'm going to watch tv and it's like you never get outside yeah i know that's it huberman likes to say that too get your face in the sun on the morning.

Sunlight. Yeah. We're going to put, we're going to put Huberman to the test this week. So we'll see if he's legit or if that's just. See if the sunlight's been paying off. Yeah. No,

I'm a big Huberman fan. I can't wait for him to come. But yeah, he's got some great advice. Some of it seems so simple, but, you know, you don't have to overthink this shit.

Get outside. Get in the sun. Get some fresh air. And, man, it changes everything. Yeah, work out. Eat healthy.

Drink water. Drink water. And then, I mean, ice bath. Like, it's freaking hard, actually. Doing the ice bath. Like, that's one thing. Like, being cold, it's like, damn, that hurts. Yeah.

It's just one of those. I think it's helped a lot of people, too, because it's a little mental, it's a mental test. And it's not physically hard other than just getting in cold water, but it's not like you're running a marathon. But if you can do it, it's a little win. for the day and it helps. Well, I mean, we don't want to go on too long,

but I did want to hear about, what's your next goal after the world record in pull-ups? Now what? You're retired, fat and happy. Fat and happy, yep, and I'm going to ride on the coattails of that for the rest of my life. That's good.

No, I think we just went out and run today to like seven miles. And the idea, which I already told people about, is, you're not going to go back and delete it all now. No, it's qualifying for Boston again. Yeah. And hopefully run it with you in 2025. Mm-hmm.

And then I'll just use the time that I was doing for the pull-ups to get better at running. And hopefully still maintain some muscle because last time when I qualified for Boston, I was so skinny. Not really. I just wasn't eating enough. Yeah, I was. No, you were like 160. Yeah. That's not that skinny.

Yeah, that's true. But now, I mean, I want to be able to qualify for Boston again. Just being able to run feels good. It's a good excuse to get outside anyway. And you're something to work towards. You always need something to work towards. That's a good one. It would be a nice little book in to the world record pull-ups, run Boston.

Well, yeah, because good goals. When I qualified for Boston in 2019, we were going to run it in 2020. Yeah. Already paid registration. And then there was a little cold that went around and it got canceled. Yeah. But that was pretty easy to qualify. Wasn't it the first time?

Yeah, that was. Again, it's different than the pull-ups, but just so hard. Just hard in its own way. But yeah, like I got to the half marathon on that one, and I was just redlining. Like my heart rate was so fast. And I was so tired. Then I held that pace for another 13 miles and felt absolutely just miserable after. I was like, I couldn't believe that I did it, 257, 647, 640.

46 is average pace. And then I went to work, got off at 11 p.m. And I thought that was pretty cool because I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not only did I go to work, do a full shift, but I qualified for Boston this morning. So I was like telling the customers when they would come in because I worked at the meat department.

Yeah. I was like, yeah, by the way, I ran a marathon this morning. They're like, wow, good job. Yeah. You were like, check out my meat. No, I didn't say that. Oh. Good, because you got fired.

That'd be a salt, brother. No, that's a good goal. That would be fun. I mean, yeah, shit. Running under sevens for 26 is doing something. It's hard to do once. Yeah. Yeah, let alone 26 times.

But yeah, you have the ability. You can do it. Shit, I hadn't even run my first marathon when I was your age. So I think you got some time. Yeah. Actually, what changed for you? Why did you start running marathons? God, I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, it just felt good to be in shape, to have something to focus on. You know, at that time, I didn't have, I had, you know, what people, not a great job. I had a family, I had trying to support a family, trying to make good decisions, not go out drinking and be a loser. And so it just gave me, you know,

You know, as we talked about, like, you know, the mental challenges of just navigating life can be hard, but getting outside and running was a positive. So it's kind of switched. And then I was like, well, I want to, you know, every dad wants our sons to be beasts and to be better than them. So I'm like, well, if I do this and, you know, have my kids involved, it's, you know, it feels good. I felt like I was doing what I was supposed to do as a dad and a leader of a family, even though

I was kind of a fuck up. But so, yeah, just kind of built from there and just, you know, as just as you have, you know, goals that come in and change and you achieve them, the set new ones, that's the same thing for me. So it was a marathon, then a 50K, then a 50-k, then a 50-mile or then a hundred-miler, and then a 200-mile and it's just, that's how it goes. You don't just jump out and run a 200-mile or it's a process. So, yeah, it was just wanted to be better.

And then that was- Because you were 32? 32 and I ran my first one. Dang, yeah. So yeah, you got time. You get your endurance, you know, you're probably not stronger, faster generally, but you're mentally tougher, the older you get

because, you know, life has kicked you in the balls a lot. Yeah. So either you get tough or you quit. And if you keep doing things and keep overcoming things, yeah, by the time you're in your 30s and even 40s, and now, I mean, I'm, I'm in my 50s and I feel as capable as I ever have. So you got lots of time.

Yeah. And then I was also going to ask you, no, I'm the podcaster. And you're on my show. With the, you were writing your first book, full-time job, bow hunting and all that. And then you had Tanner and I, what was, what were you working towards? or like what was keeping you motivated at that time? Because that's pretty, that's a lot going on.

And then writing a book, that's quite the task. And you had the, uh, the laptop in the living room and then we were running around and doing whatnot. But, uh, yeah, I mean,

he had a lot going on. Just like what kept you? I don't know, just like focused. Um, I, God, I don't even know.

I just wanted to, uh, I wanted to be something. I wanted to be something. I wanted to be not just a guy in town that had a job. And I wanted to be like, you know, I wanted to stand out. I wanted to be somebody, people talked about. And you're not sure why?

No. I just, he's probably just, you know, as I said, growing up and then my dad wasn't around and I wasn't big. So I got, you know, whatever. You got, you don't talk about bullied or picked on or whatever. But it's just like it felt like life was hard and it didn't get a lot of positive anything. And so I thought, well, I want to be somebody. People were like talked about and noticed and either liked or didn't like, didn't like, didn't matter.

but just wanted to make an impact. And so I thought, well, nobody's ever written a bow hunting book on blacktailed deer, which is what we have here, which is what you killed, you know, two days ago. So I'm like, well, I'll do it. I don't have any money. I don't know what makes me qualified to do it, but I'm going to do it. So that's what I did. And did my first one then in first book in 1999, second one in 2006.

And then if it didn't work out, you were going to file for bankruptcy? Yeah, we were not, I wasn't good. I've never been good with money. I mean, I, yeah, I always spend what I got. And actually a little more than I got. That's good. And I just hoping, I always had in my head that, yeah, it's going to work out somehow. I'm going to write this book and I'm going to get a bunch of orders and I'm going to have a bunch of money coming in.

It never really happened. But, you know, it worked out. And, yeah, I mean, I thought we were going to have to file bankruptcy. And I was putting these bell hunting goals ahead of what I should be making good decisions as a dad and a husband. But, yeah, I was not super smart and kind of selfish. And just my dreams took precedence over everything for a while. And then pretty soon you're like either I got to quit. doing this shit or I got to work harder and make it happen. So I was just like I got to I got to work

harder and just make it happen. Yeah and that's actually I just watched a documentary on Eminem and when he got his wife or his girlfriend pregnant. He was like geez I really need to buckle he was like messing around in the music scene like trying to just make mixtapes and whatnot and people buy them at like the gas station. And then he was like man I really need to buckle down I need to support my family now and instead of just completely giving like going and getting a real job as you would call it somewhere he went like just full bore into the music and just like focusing on that dream and then believed in himself and obviously now he is who he is but it's just like instead of giving like it would have been really easy to give up on the dream like yeah by the way that's not going to happen so you need to go

ahead and get a real job and then yeah then we wouldn't have m&M And that happens to a lot of people. They give up on their dreams. You know, because it doesn't look realistic. And you're like, man, what if you just would have stuck with it? So I didn't want to be that guy who gave up. So I just stuck with it. Well, and that's the other thing too is I don't know how people accomplish anything.

If they don't have like a supportive spouse. Like if you're constantly being fought on what you're able to do, like my wife, she was super supportive. And she was the one that didn't want me to quit when. I wanted to quit back in May. But if you don't have that, it really, it probably affects you because, I mean, that's the person you spend the most time with. Yeah. They're just constantly like shitting on your goals and it's probably not going to happen.

Right. If you have to fight them and also the adversity of just trying to accomplish your dreams, it's like, no way. Yeah. You need somebody who believes in you for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, life's funny.

Yeah. I mean, I will say it's, it's one thing to say that you want to be someone and then another thing to actually be someone. You know, like everyone wants to be whatever. Everybody thinks they're special. Everyone thinks they're special and they want to be successful. But then it's one thing to actually like buckle down and do it. Like make time. You had your full-time job.

You would still lift, run, shoot, bow hunt, write a book. It's like, that's a lot. So, I mean, it's probably just discipline, right? I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's just, yeah, I'm not sure. But yeah, I mean, I'm just kind of just feeling like a loser most of my life. Yeah. Just didn't like that feeling. Yeah. To be able to change on a dime like that's pretty impressive. Yeah, I mean, I never felt like even when I, you know, my job at sub turned in, I was, you know, the buyer first. a long time, didn't really know if I was qualified for that. Then I was superintendent. Didn't really know if I was qualified for that either, but just kept like, you know,

they call it outrunning your coverage like on a punt. It's just like I just kept like outrunning my coverage and just like, well, I probably don't deserve to be here, but I am and I'm going to make the most of it. So it's just, you know, probably being a little delusional. Like people, like we say, people, everybody thinks are special. Yeah. And so maybe I thought I was more, more, I don't know what than I actually was, but eventually you just earned some opportunities because you just can't be ignored.

What was that race? Didn't you drop out of a race before when you were like 25? You were like supposed to run a 10K and then you just. Oh, the beauty to be it. It was the beauty to be? Yeah, I quit. And then you quit and then you. Yeah, I like it five miles.

You have a mile left. A mile. Couldn't walk it. No, I could have. But I just stepped off the course and took my number off. And I was just, I was, had been drinking. I was fat for me. And I was just like, you know, I was used to knowing what good times were.

Yeah. And, you know, you get to five miles. You see the time. And you're just like, holy shit. Do I actually want this time in the, to be counted? And I just felt, yeah, I just felt pathetic. How old? I don't know, but probably around 25.

Yeah, I mean, and then obviously people know you now, you would never do such a thing. No. You would never quit like that on pretty much any race. No. So like I don't know how you go from that to just being like, it's kind of like a Goggins switch, mental switch of like how he was, what, 300 pounds?

Mm-hmm. And couldn't, it was just what he, his own words that, like he was pathetic, kind of work out could hardly even run and then to be able to switch into what he is now and what you're now it's like I don't even know how that happens yeah um I don't either but I just know people just get tired of feeling pathetic you know if he if he said that then yeah it's just it's a miserable feeling especially for a man you know you're supposed to be a leader you're supposed to be strong yeah and when you don't feel that way either you cave into that feeling and you know go further down or you're just like

holy shit i got to i got to buckle down i got to do something and so yeah it was just like you get you get as a there's a saying sick and tired of being sick and tired yeah you just change so that was it i just changed luckily i mean Tanner came along and then i felt obligation to to be a dad a good dad not just a dad who was a fuck up but actually a good dad because you guys i didn't know you know you weren't around yeah but i knew tanner was going to be watching me and yep how i carried myself was going to impact how he carried himself and his development so it's just like shit this is bigger than me yeah no i know and and that's true i mean people are watching you and like my wife when i'd be training for the pull-ups i'm like i would tell myself like she's watching me right

now and like it matters if I actually show up and if I'm actually able to do this like it actually matters because people it's like they don't want to be you don't want to let them down people believe in you yeah and you want to give them something to be proud of like that's one thing they were talking about earlier is I want my kids to be proud of what I accomplished not that I was a quitter like oh it got harder than I quit it's like that's not a good lesson no and you know you said it feels good when people believe in you, but people don't believe in you forever. You start letting people down a few times.

They're like, this guy's not going to do shit. Then nobody's believing in you. Yeah. You know, and that's not a good place to be because you've just let people down for so long. They're just like, here he goes again. Yeah. Just to fuck up.

Yeah, I can't imagine that's a good feeling. No, so it's just like, you know, You have to, when people believe in you, that means something. You got to cherish that. You're like, I'm going to prove you right. Yeah. I'm going to get this done. I'm going to prove you right.

I'm not going to waste this, you know, you caring and your love and support. I'm not going to waste it. You're going to make it pay off. No, and you need people like that. I mean, I was filling out of this questionnaire for Guinness after the fact. And it was just like, how do you know, did you feel after accomplishing this? And then I was like, I've just obviously, like I said, I've never been more proud of myself, but then also like seeing how proud like you and Tanner,

uh, Taryn and, and mom were. Like that, what I said was I hope everyone gets to experience that feeling. Because like making those closest to you feel proud of you. It's like, yeah, that's a pretty life-changing feeling. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, I hope everyone gets to feel that. It's like Israel. Sonia? Yeah. Yeah, style bender.

Yeah, when he knocked out Alex Pereira and he said that he hopes everyone can experience like how happy he feels right now. It's like, yeah, no, I mean, I kind of get that now. Yeah. No, it's special. I mean, and yeah, your whole family was proud of you because, and I think, you know, Tanner would attested this. everybody here would but he've always been pretty obsessed with training i mean i don't know how old

you were when you had the little ab roller and you'd be hours on the tv like rolling out your abs or not rolling out your abs but on that ab roller and just extending out the side side side side how many hours did you do that tonight um probably about like an hour then i'd go to the gym as well yeah Yeah. So yeah, I mean, it feels good with, you know, that's always been like one of your core tenets of you is like you want to be what it's always that physical conditioning or attributes or performance. And, you know, so it felt good for you to achieve that goal. And yeah, we were all very proud of you. And it would be nice. It would be extremely powerful if everybody could feel that way, but that has to be earned.

I know. You earned it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what makes it that much sweeter. It's just how hard it was. It's like I didn't want to mask the pain because it's like just knowing how hard that feeling was and overcoming it.

It's like, woof, that's the best feeling in the world when it's set and done because now it's two weeks later and my body's 100% feel totally fine. And it's like, geez, it's just temporary. Yeah, definitely. It feels overwhelming at the time. Yeah, but that feeling. of being proud it's like that sticks with you for a long time yeah you didn't let yourself down and and that's huge yeah definitely no well it's been a been a great couple weeks got through a world record

you got a buck killed pretty sweet what else you got you ran the mountain today ran the mountain didn't walk didn't walk um able to just lift like normal now pulled my bow back pulled your bow back that's actually the number one thing which actually people love to see other people struggle so they they love to see people fail they love to see people fail for sure well struggle really bad and then fail yeah I don't know it just makes people feel better about themselves I think but yeah no it's all right yeah we've we've had a lot of positives in the last couple weeks so I can't complain no it'd be silly to complain we've been blessed with a lot and uh You know, I'm thankful for the, for the sons and daughter I have and my family and you guys all make me proud.

Right now is your time in the sun. You got, you know, you got achieved your goal. And Tanner and Tanner are going to have their time in the sun too. And that's how it, that's what we like. Yep. Yep. I'm proud of you guys. Yeah.

And I hope they do. And I know that they will. So, yeah. When one of us wins, all of us win, that's for sure. Yeah, that's how I feel. Yep. But yeah, all right. Well, we've got a film coming out at some point about your, with your deer hunt.

Maybe we'll show your meltdown. Yeah. About the deer hunt coming out. Yeah, and then also for the pull-ups, Luke, do some berries making that for me. So that would be sweet. Yeah, that should be good. Maybe you can pull some of this audio. Yeah, yeah, that'd be good.

all right well uh good work you have anything else you want to close with um i love my wife um i love jesus and ducks football the duck's gonna go to the play out to the bcs or not bcs national championship that's been gone for a while now the bcs i know but no yeah they're they're probably going to make it i would have to say i mean we always end up losing a stupid game to like an unranked opponent, but no, I'm feeling good this year. I think we're better than Washington. If we play them again in a neutral site, yeah, then we got it. I know. We're playing really good right now. It's pretty fun. Yeah. We love the ducks. Yeah, no, we always have. But no, I mean, I think that's it. All right. Well, we'll get you to the airport. You can get home to your wife. Sweet. All right. Love you,

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