Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 101 - Return of the Mack (Gideon)
Episode Date: November 27, 2024Join us for a discussion with Cam and James G. Williams as they discuss James new bench press PR, Jake and Tyson’s fight, upcoming events and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.co...m/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Follow James: https://www.instagram.com/james_g_williams/ Thank you to our sponsors: MUD\WTR: https://mudwtr.com/cam use code CAM for 15% off Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off GoHunt: https://gohunt.com/ use code CAM when you sign up for $50 towards the gear shop + 10% off the GoHunt store Timestamps: 0:00:00 Intro 0:03:30 New Apparel & James 225 Bench PR 0:05:55 Comedy Story 0:08:49 Return of the Mac 0:09:47 Redemption & Upcoming Hunt Films 0:12:41 Jake Paul VS Mike Tyson Fight 0:18:58 Loredo - Cactus Jack 0:30:28 Ad Break 0:31:57 Jelly Roll & Austin, TX 0:36:25 Ways2Well 0:38:13 Archery Country 0:42:24 50K Race - Frozen Trail Ultra 0:47:53 Upcoming Guests, Truett & Cam’s Broken Foot 0:54:45 Outro
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Every step I take I move my truth.
Every time they tell me stop I use.
Every comment hate that makes my feel.
Gather up my energy and boom.
I hear them talking, saying the way that I move it's so reckless.
That is a part of my mind I've been blessed with.
Giving my blood so I am relentless.
Welcome to Keep Hammer Collective.
This is the Keep Hammer Collective with the one and only Gideon.
Gideon.
That's me.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Welcome to the show.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
The long-awaited return.
The return of the Mac.
Do you know what that is?
Return the Mac.
Have you ever heard that?
The song?
I think it's a song, right?
Yeah.
But isn't it an old?
Yeah, it's got to be from something else.
What is that song?
Return to the Mac.
Oh, that's Maclemore, I think.
No.
Maclemore?
It's Turn to the Mac.
Tell me what it is, what it is.
Oh, I don't know.
But that makes sense that you would know him.
Mm-hmm.
He's my favorite.
Your favorite hardcore rapper.
I really like that, the hood rap.
The suburban rap.
Were you going to say something or should we just jump in?
I said, you know what I haven't done?
What haven't I done?
I don't know.
Shit, freaking tired, dude.
Yeah, in a tree stand all day.
Yeah, how's that?
This morning was good.
This evening was not good.
But I've been fucking toasty warm.
I know that.
That sick of shit is pretty nice.
Yeah, I noticed you were fully kidded out when you walked in the door.
Yeah.
I've never, yeah, I don't know.
We're going to have to cut this too?
No, we can leave this.
I don't care.
I haven't decided on what I'm going to do.
but just trying out some camo and they got good stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
It's hard to argue with it was, I mean, I froze my balls off a lot in a tree stand
and I haven't been the last couple days.
And so whatever.
I mean, it's good, but there's a lot of good stuff out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the only thing I've worn is Sitka for whatever reason.
I mean, besides when I was really young, the classic Kmart.
Yeah.
Camel bibs that were too short.
Dude, I think we've all been there.
Yeah, your dad or stepdad or whoever.
Shut the fuck up, put this on, you little piece of shit.
Oh, maybe that was just me.
Yeah, we've all been there.
Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, there are some good stuff out there.
Holy cow. I mean, so I'm trying, you know, origin has good stuff too. Obviously, no, no shade there. But Sidka, trying them out, never really tried out their stuff. They sent me a bunch. It's really nice. Trying to make a decision on what I'm going to do. Talk to Kuyu, talking to Borm Primitive tomorrow. So. Lots of options. Talk to first light. So good. But speaking of apparel, I notice you're wearing. God. This thing was locked.
You need to open that for, oh, that's some big news.
What?
225 on the bench.
You did it?
I got video proof, too.
Did your ass come up?
Like, Truit?
A little bit.
But that means I should be good by the time the family bench competition rolls around.
But Truit's ass does come up except he does 18.
Yeah, well, mine comes up and I'll do one.
I'll do half of one.
That's all right.
I guess that fucking testosterone's paying off.
My hormone replacement.
Yeah.
That's good.
So that's a PR, isn't it?
I've never done 225, yeah.
And you can...
So now I can walk around and ask people if they're talking to me.
You talking to me?
Have you seen that guy on Instagram?
He's got 225 tattooed on his arm, I think.
He walks around with no shirt on, and he's talking about he can bench 225.
Does benching 225 actually gets you girls?
Yeah, it does.
Any chick I want, bro.
That's going to be me.
Well, we got to put, Macy, you got to look that up.
I don't know.
We need that and we need to reel it, James.
So, hey, send her that footage.
You're doing 220.
I will get ripped.
No.
That's a reel, dude.
I'll do it.
That's going to go viral.
And I need to get, I'm getting a 225 tattooed on my arm for the bench off.
On your neck.
I'm going to get it above my eyebrow.
Yeah.
What's that number for?
Oh, funny you ask.
I can just throw this shit around.
On the bench, I don't know if you noticed that.
Tanner did say that the gravity is a little heavier in here.
So I need to be confident in my abilities.
Yeah, I mean, God, I can barely.
What did I do the other day?
Three or four or something?
Shit, I need to get back on the grind if I'm, Christmas is coming.
Yeah, it is.
So Tanner's the king, Truits.
I used to always beat them when they were like seven.
But yeah, what are you wearing?
That's new, isn't it?
Is this a sales plug?
I don't want to get fired.
Is that what we're doing?
Oh, am I supposed to act?
Oh, yeah.
Actually, this is part of the new line.
How is that?
God, you know, I just heard a story today.
So here's the story.
I don't know if I want to, can I say who said it?
I don't know.
But anyway, there's local comedy scene here in town.
I did not know this.
And the guy from the silent Bob and Jay or silent Jay and Bob,
I don't know what the fuck.
Have you seen the movie Clerks like old movie?
Anyway, this guy was in town.
I think, what was that?
No mouth noises, but I'm telling the story.
It's quiet in your hair.
So I sitting in the blind.
They go is Jay.
Anyway, he was doing a stand-up here.
So they had four local comedians, which I guess are pretty good.
And anyway, the point to the story is the person who told me his story was there.
And they were at this table and it was like 400 people jammed in there.
Some guy who was, I don't even, I don't know who the guy was.
But he started to laugh so much.
that somehow,
I don't know,
take a road sort of
somehow he hawked a loogie
while he was cracking up
and it flew.
Part of it,
it came apart in space and air
and part of it went in his date's mouth
and the other part
went in some other girl's mouth
the fucking luggy
in their mouth.
The one girl
spit
into our hand and running into the bathroom.
I don't know what the other girl did,
but that seems like it'd be awkward.
Do you think he'd train for that?
It's pretty accurate.
Yeah, just like one of those that comes from, you know,
like the top of your lungs maybe
and somehow breaks loose and then it's just probably slow motion
just like changing shapes a little bit right into,
I could hit the punching back in the back of the throat.
I don't know.
I don't know if it stuck on the,
whatever bunch of you bags called,
but I don't know.
Kind of a good story.
That's brutal.
Yeah,
that's,
I don't know,
I didn't know what I would do.
Well,
it's bad enough.
You ever,
like,
been on a date and a little bit of spit comes out or something.
You're like,
it's the worst thing ever.
Yeah.
Launch a luggy.
Or you go in the bathroom and you look
and you got like,
you know,
fucking snod on your nose or,
I don't know what.
Now I'm like on my nose.
Like me,
I got snout on my nose.
right now.
I have a bad joke.
I'm going to hold it.
Just like you hold,
that's a T-shirt of yours.
Yeah, I'm a hold it.
Okay.
Okay, so.
So that's all I had.
That's a good story.
Yeah.
We haven't done this for a while, I think, since before Katie's Hunt.
It's a return of Gideon.
It's the return of the Mac.
McElmore.
That's the title, Macy, title of this podcast, is Return of the Mac.
and then in what is that called?
Partheses.
Yeah, parentheses.
Gideon.
All caps.
Yeah.
No, we haven't done it.
But we haven't really done much since then.
No.
Holy shit.
We haven't done anything.
Fucking exhausted, dude.
We finally got some time at home.
Being retired is exhausting.
Well, I'm not retired.
Well, at least you're getting paid.
For now.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a news.
I got moved up from an internship.
Yeah.
What is your title?
Creative producer was on the document that I signed.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Pretty big deal.
So redemption came out.
That was your, is that your first, like, film film for me?
That you were like 100% in charge of.
I mean, Bush Dragon, too, came out before.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, but both of them kick ass.
What do you think?
Surprising.
I mean, I read all the comments.
Oh, God.
Don't do that.
And, you know, there's a lot of good ones.
There's probably, it's probably 75% positive.
But the 25% speak much louder.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's okay.
That's all Matt Ronella.
That's okay.
That's just lights my fire.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, those did good.
Redemption came out.
I was super happy with redemption.
Yeah, I think it turned out really good.
And to be, to be fair, Branlon helped a lot in that.
Who?
Of course, the legend.
Bramlin, shocky.
Yeah, he, I think he did have some good suggestions to, like, because making a film,
you can have all the best stuff, put it together good,
but then there's a few little tweaks that just like get it,
like another 10%.
Yeah, definitely.
Tiny changes, but makes a huge difference.
For sure, it does.
Yeah.
He usually has pretty good ideas in that regard.
Yeah.
And then we did Katie's Hunt.
That was also, that was a blast.
How's a film?
Done.
You guys have seen it?
Yeah, that's my standing joke with Jay,
because he's got like 20 films
that are supposed to be done.
Actually, you sent me one today.
Did you watch it?
No.
Fuck when?
I figured you watched it and just hated it.
No.
Fuck.
All I did was I was on the stand.
So I went, it was like 15 minutes.
And I just kind of went with my fingers.
And all I noticed, and so that took like 30 seconds,
there's a lot of me walking.
So I don't know if, and it must be when I killed the bowl.
Yeah.
So I don't know how long that.
But with my finger swipe, it seemed like a lot, a big part of that bar, but I have to watch it tonight.
Yeah.
But overall, I think it's 16 minutes now, so we could take some of that out and cut it down.
But I don't know what we have in there.
Yeah.
I saw some podcast clips to tie it together.
And I saw, yeah, I mean, the buck did drop in his track.
So I saw how we arrow hit and we kind of made it go to black.
Yeah, got to black.
People kind of know what the routine is there.
It's like you got to get in there and just get it killed.
Yep.
Do whatever it takes.
So got a few more arrows in it, but we don't need to look at that.
No.
No.
So we did go to Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson.
Yeah.
God.
Give you your thoughts on that.
On the whole thing, because there were a couple fights before that were really good.
And I know you're a fan.
Katie Taylor, yeah.
And Serrano was an amazing fight.
Um, that one's been up for debate on the, uh, I guess the, the decision.
Because if you looked at the numbers, Serrano threw more punches, landed more punches.
Mm-hmm. But if that was how you determined a winner of a fight, then there would be no judges.
Right. You'd just count punches and whatever landed. Yeah. Okay, you won because you, but that's not,
that's not everything that dictates a fight. Um, so it was,
who under the harder shots and there was the headbutt thing that came in but to me part of it is
katie that's her style and you got to adjust it if you know she comes in with her head down maybe
you should throw a fucking uppercut yeah i mean i don't know no but she she she does the same thing
every time so are you just going to let her just crash her head into your head or i don't know
i mean it's easy for me to say but yeah i don't know after during the fight i was thinking like
you know headbutting serrano definitely won with the point but then after i've
rewatch and the highlights the headbutting wasn't that aggressive i didn't think it wasn't like you know
no no it was just she was coming forward and and they hit heads i think the first time she split her
eyebrow open it was definitely accidental yeah yeah so i don't think she ever did it on purpose i mean i
think they're all accidental but it's just that's just her style yeah and that's how she's always fought
so what are you going to do throw an uppercut i mean just you can just play the victim you know i mean and i'm
not saying that Serona she's like a she's incredible herself so I'm not saying she's playing the victim
I'm just talking like as far as the the critiques go you know I'm like yeah I don't know I could see
I could see both ways Katie Taylor was a champion and normally you have to win decisively
to take that belt away from the champion if you're we're talking just rule of thumb just in general
with combat sports has to be a decisive win to unseek whoever's holding the belt but i don't know that
that's kind of unspoken rule too yeah i mean my critiques i could kick both their asses oh yeah i mean
because of the 225 bench now is that i if they heard that they wouldn't even want to fight too
no i mean you should have seen the people in the j they cleared out oh i bet i bet were they like
circling or chanting before
Let's just add a lot of offers.
Offers.
And I think all my sponsorships are in the mail.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, just keep checking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a hell of an event just in general.
I've never, that's it for watching boxing.
That stadium was giant and tons of people and I think 60 million people watched.
I think I saw Logan Paul mention.
on his podcast to Jake that sounds like was it 150 million or 250 million however many people
watched worldwide over the time between maybe between social and i don't know Netflix but
a lot of eyeballs on that yeah that was crazy uh and you can you can talk all the shit you want
but those boys have they've i don't know i mean they're kicking ass they're winners for sure
Definitely winners.
I mean, you might not like how they carry themselves or what they do or whatever, but they've been successful.
Yeah.
And they're young.
Yeah.
So props.
And now one of them has beaten one of the best boxers of all time.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, because Logan lost to Mayweather.
That's crazy too.
I know.
They both fought, like, for both brothers, if you said, oh, these, you know, little white guys are going to come up and they're going to
fight the two great probably the biggest names in boxing history in mayweather and tyson these kids
from ohio you'd be like no what why how you know i think they wrestled in yeah in school crazy but
yeah just an uh an amazing journey um the visualization and working to make it happen for both uh
Logan and Jake is just, I don't know.
Like I said, you can, you can talk shit, but, man, look at what they've done.
And it's hard not to be impressed.
Yeah.
And I met my new wife there.
Well, I didn't meet her.
I just saw her.
Jake's girlfriend?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, she's six foot seven.
She's taller than you.
No, she's not.
She's pretty tall, though.
Super tall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was super nice, too.
Yeah.
Like I said, I didn't meet her.
I just stared at her awkwardly.
Well, I mean, I'm sure most the people there did.
She's hard to miss.
Yeah, so we wrapped that up.
I thought you were going to see that blonde ring girl.
Oh.
Did you break up with her?
Yeah, for Jake Paul's girlfriend.
Yeah.
And I hope she took that all right.
Does she know you're alive?
No.
But I don't know.
beautiful thing that you guys had while it lasted short but you know passionate oh man white hot passion
yeah uh yeah so anyway so we finished that up wait wait wait shout out to ketone for hooking us up
for the fight i mean i was in the fourth row you were in not the fourth row but i was right off the
floor yeah you were there i mean ketone you know michael brant thank you
you, Jeffrey Wu, thank you.
Those guys are badass as Michael's going to be on the podcast here coming up.
He's a good runner.
It's going to be fun.
We've got a list of events planned.
Yeah, we got a couple good days with him, so that'll be fun.
Shout out to Ketone.
But yeah, so after that, we headed south to Laredo.
That's right.
Yeah, so, God, was that the next day?
Yeah, it had to be, right?
Yeah, yeah, it was.
So Friday was a fight.
Yeah.
Yeah, went to a cactus jack down the next day, flew to, yeah, from Dallas to Laredo.
Oh, first I was in Austin and it had dinner with Joe and Evan business dinner.
So that was fun.
Good to see those guys.
Business luncheon.
It was definitely dinner.
But yeah, I'm sure that's a joke reference.
I'm not getting.
I just think the word luncheon is funny.
Oh, luncheon?
Yeah.
That's a cool word, luncheon.
That should be on the shirt on a new merch.
Luncheon.
Did you see my fashion show at lunch?
I did.
Fashion show, fashion show, fashion show at lunch.
Did you see my filters?
Yeah.
Well, those take your photos to the next level.
I don't know what my photos would be without them.
Mm-mm.
Shit.
Yeah.
Just so everyone knows, I send all my photos to cam, and then he edits them and sends them back to me, the ones I post.
Do you see the one where I jumped over the deer?
I have to send that to Macy.
I fix that one.
All right.
So then, yeah, went to Austin, then to Dallas, then to Laredo, then started hunting this buck.
Yeah, I don't know.
That place is crazy.
What do you think of Cactus Jack?
Well, you had duped me a little bit before about the accommodations, as you always do.
And so when we got there, I was like, this place is so nice.
Yeah.
Oh, I think, did I say we were in a trailer or something?
I think something like you'll be lucky to have a bed or something.
Yeah, yeah.
No, they do it upright.
I mean, it's Texas.
Yeah.
So it's got to be one of the best deer hunting places.
in Texas, which is going to trigger a lot of people.
I'm sorry, I'm hunting there.
I wish I, yeah, I wish I'd, no, I don't.
I don't wish I didn't have that opportunity.
I'm pretty happy, but yeah, it's insane.
Yeah, super nice.
And just the amount of, you know, good bucks there.
Yeah.
Crazy.
I mean, it, it, yeah, it's a whole different.
Normally when I hunt like today, I'm like,
That's a pretty nice three by three.
That might work.
And I actually pass it up.
But normally I'm not this big trophy hunter.
Just like, I don't know.
I just like to bow hunt.
But they're very, very strict on, they want to kill old bucks.
So they want, it's not just, it's not just a regular place.
It's, you know, they like those bucks to get seven, eight, nine years old,
sometimes, which is insane.
Because when you grew up like me, hunting public land where, you know, any legal
buck, I can look at it.
I mean, my first buck was a spike.
And, you know, I was pumped to kill it.
But, yeah, when you grow up, like normally just grinding out, you see anything.
You're not hardly ever passing anything up to go into, you know, now it's been 40 years
of hunting.
So I've been around a little bit.
To go to where you're not even shooting a five-year-old, it's insane.
Yeah.
I mean, you look at those bucks, and you get kind of used to aging them.
Because you kind of start looking at their face, start looking at their body, start looking at just different feet.
You know, trying to tell, okay, what's a five-year-old buck, what's a seven-year-old buck.
I don't know.
It's a science for sure, but.
I mean, however they're doing it, however they're managing it, is clearly working.
You know?
Yeah.
I think they, I think this year, they killed one over 200.
But their best year ever is, I think, five over 200.
But that was just kind of like how the age class of the bucks worked.
You can't really rely on that.
But a 200-inch white tail, I mean, you saw those bucks in there.
Insane.
Yeah.
Insane.
And it's, you know, it's low fence.
It's, you know, those bucks, they can, you know, do with.
whatever, there's really no reason for him to leave, but it's no different than a lot of places
in Texas. I mean, they can get on the highway and, you know, whatever.
Plenty of you legales walking through there, I noticed. So, yeah, it's just, it's, you know,
what's that, what's that called? Golden Triangle, South Texas. Yeah. It's the best country there is for
White Tale. Yeah, so was it the third morning?
When I killed?
Yeah.
I think so.
I saw him the night before.
Somehow did not get him killed.
He's at 25 yards.
Just waiting.
And they had stampeded off like three different times, didn't they?
Yeah.
I mean, no reason just freaking gone.
And you're just sitting there going, oh, my.
Because by the time it takes him to get back in is a while.
And the big bucks won't probably never come back in.
But he, so the buck I was after, big old deer, just a crazy white tail.
But he was in at 25 and he was quartering two a little bit.
I thought not a lot.
I mean, most people would look and probably just still try to shove an arrow in there.
I just wanted him to have that near leg forward just so I didn't have to go through that shoulder blade
because you start pushing through shoulder blades on big old bucks like that.
Who knows what the arrow was going to do, right?
So I just wanted it, why take the chance?
I wanted that leg forward and I wanted perfect broadside and he was quartering two and his
leg was not, it was like his far leg was a little bit forward.
So it made it even more quartering kind of.
And I'm like, I don't know if I told you, but, you know, maybe I mentioned that I'm waiting
or whispered that I'm waiting for that late to come forward anyway.
But before it could at 25 yards, they all spooked.
And this is at like last light.
Yeah, it was.
And I was like, that's okay.
That's fine.
Or I was like, what?
Yeah, freaking out.
I think it was probably the latter.
But God, that was frustrating.
Because you never know.
I mean, there's no guarantees coming back.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not really hardcore rut.
Because if it's a rut, which is a little.
bit later a couple weeks maybe they could go anywhere and you might never see them i mean they've
seen bucks that just disappear and or never daylight is what they call show up in the daylight
they're just a night buck and uh like michael um the owner of the property's son he's been he's
hunting this buck and i don't think it's ever showed up in the daylight yeah i don't think so but
he's it's like a 190 giant so it's i mean there's no guarantees so
that buck took off and we're like back in there the next morning thinking okay hopefully we see him again
and we did yeah but we didn't at first but i said i go there he is and so you're filming this buck
and then i'm like looking at it going god is that him or is it another giant white tail that kind of had
like an extra i mean it's a little bit different but he had an extra tying on the right side and
he had a little crab claw on the left side on the main beam, which is what my buck had to,
but my buck had a split G3.
So I'm looking at this buck and I'm like, okay, there he is.
And I'm like, God, maybe that's not him.
And then from walking way to the left coming out of the brush came my buck.
And I'm like, oh, I told you, I said, he's to the left.
There he is.
And then you're then like looking at those two bucks, you know, where you had like a comparison.
It's like, holy shit.
I think was giant.
Yeah.
Anyway, he came in, was out there at 42.
I tried to be patient, which normally 42, like if you're out cunning, 42 is, you got to
make that shot every single time.
But on a white tail as fast as they are, and there's a million doze around watching
you all the time in a blind, which obviously they know is there.
And if the sun, like in the evening, the sun was going in the window, which made it almost
impossible but in the morning the sun was at our back so way better but still they're so dialed in
and um i did not want to take a 42-yard shot at that thing because they could be 10 yards away
by the time the arrow got there they're so fast and uh he ended up after and i don't know did they
spook that morning too yeah a couple times again so finally he came back and got later in the
morning maybe close to eight by this time and it was getting light at what six 30 yeah six
38 yeah um so we're an hour and a half into this hunt essentially or at least an hour and uh
this buck finally came closer got to again to 26 yards and then smoked them yeah that was uh
it's always a nice feeling then you got it going down yeah i got it tipping over
Perfect.
Wait.
But I accidentally deleted the footage.
I did not get it tipping over for anyone wondering.
But if you would have, that would have been good.
Exactly.
And it's the thought that counts.
It is.
I mean.
That's what I've learned.
I try not to put, you know, we're all just trying our best.
Right?
Yeah.
And I think you only threw me out of the blind window like twice.
So.
Yeah.
I mean, so that's not that bad.
No.
Really.
If you think about it.
Pretty good, I think.
Mm-hmm.
So we got our target butt killed.
We're going to go back down there, which is pretty sick.
I'm looking forward to that.
I don't know what I'm going to do, but just hang out.
It's just a cool place to hang out.
It's a nice place to hang out.
Just see giant deer.
It's just like a cool.
I mean, you know, that Saturday we got done with our hunt, came back,
watched the UFC fights.
It's like, this is the life.
Oh, my God.
That was, yeah, that was John Jones.
Freaking put the whoopin on Steepay.
Yeah.
I mean,
Stepe's tough,
but tough matchup with Jones.
Yeah.
Oh,
shit.
He's the best ever.
Yeah.
So you killed?
And then we packed up.
Well,
we broke your buck down.
Packed up.
Mm-hmm.
Drove back to Austin.
I can't even remember what the hell we did.
Jelly roll.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Same.
Yeah, that's right.
Same night.
Yeah.
So I didn't think.
I would pretty much decided we weren't going to jelly roll.
I knew he was going to be at Moody Center in Austin,
but, you know, the hunt takes precedence.
I love seeing him, and it's such a treat every time,
just the impact he has on people,
but I'm like, I got to hunt this deer,
especially after having him so close
and not getting a shot the night before.
But as fate would have it,
we, you know, made a good arrow,
or released a good arrow, got him killed quick,
and got him broke down,
And it's like noon or something.
And we're like, well, shit, four hours to Austin.
Let's do it.
Made the drive.
We went to our place of nutrition.
In and out.
Yeah, went to in and out.
Got to the hotel, which really nice hotel in Austin.
Omni, I think it's called.
If we were golfers, are you a golfer?
I am.
Yeah.
So it would be.
For all you nerd.
It's really nice.
But for me, I got a haircut there.
Shout out to Sylvia.
We also got a quick little pump in.
Just a friend.
Oh, we did, yeah.
Which I got to attribute to my 225.
Thinking about putting out of my body.
Was that what it was?
Yeah, it's going to become my personality.
Yeah.
How do you reference that you bench 225?
Do you just say 225 bench athlete?
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Bad ass.
Yeah.
225 bench survivor.
And just,
make sure you put free weights.
Because some people could like Nautilus.
They might look at you and think,
oh,
it's fucking Nautilus for sure,
not free weights.
So you got to make sure you,
like asterisk free weights.
Are you saying I don't look like I could bench two-tolerance?
I'm just saying like what people might say.
I'm not,
I'm not saying anything.
Don't make me flex on camera.
Yeah, don't rip that shirt.
Yeah, so then Rihanna and Logan picked us up.
We, I don't know, I'm trying to figure out where to go.
That was like the hardest part of getting there.
Then I think I just said, just go drive past these cops, turn in this place.
And it's like we pull up to this little kiosk thing.
and Rihanna puts her, or I don't know, rolls out her window.
And the girl goes, are you Rihanna?
I was like, what?
How the hell did this work?
It's so random.
I don't know.
Blowing through cop barricades.
And then we go to the right place.
So, yeah, then went in, saw everybody.
Jelly Roll, incredible, but so many cool people there.
Yeah, all the Black Rifle coffee people.
Who else was there?
Tony, Hinchcliff.
Played the shit out of the drums.
The legend.
Yeah.
Tony Hinchcliff.
Yeah.
He's always fun to talk to.
We saw him in the green room and, you know,
talked about he almost blew the election,
but then instead he saved the election,
got all the Puerto Rican votes.
Trump's best speaker.
Oh, my.
Yeah.
They're like shocked that Tony said, like,
controversial stuff.
It's like, have you ever seen him talk before?
Come on. What are we doing?
But yeah, didn't blow the election.
So that was cool. Yeah, saw him. Who else do we see?
We saw David Lucas.
Yeah. He's cool.
Yeah, he started following him. He said I didn't follow him.
So I started following him right there.
Perfect.
Yeah, he's a cool guy. He's got a fishing show or something.
He takes people fishing. Is he going to take you fishing?
I don't know. I don't fish.
I was going to say, when was the last time you fished?
Yeah.
Up with Roy in Alaska.
We'd take the boys, oh, yeah, out there.
We'd take them bear hunting on their first bear hunts with Roy,
and we'd catch king salmon in the morning and bear hunt at night.
That's the double.
Yeah.
So since then.
So went to the concert.
That was great.
Mm-hmm.
Then the next morning, still not done.
God, I can't even remember.
What would do the next morning?
Ways to well.
Oh, God. Yeah. I got stem cells shot in my whole body. I've got other IVs like vitamins and minerals.
Got something done stem cells on my face somehow. So if I look really like glowing and young, that's why.
You've got that pregnancy. Yeah. I know. Mommy glow. Or what's, yeah, I don't know what it's called.
But yeah, so, yeah, ways to well, great people.
We shot some video there, little testimonials.
That was good.
Yeah.
Shout out, bring them.
Stud.
Yeah, nice guy.
Yeah, super nice guy.
I love that they're doing so well and open up a new facility and, yeah, kicking ass.
Yeah, their new office sounds like it's going to be pretty badass.
Yeah, every person there is like the best.
Yeah.
I love going there.
Yeah.
shout out my
new new wife
which one
oh I can't remember
Lauren
she will choke your ass out
god dang
yeah you're
definitely fucked
yeah she's cool
but and what was a
what was a girl's name who did the interview
was it Macy
was it also Macy
Macy's the only thing I can remember
because that's what Rionna
called her and then I was like, I don't think that's her name.
But I think, shit.
I wish I was better in names.
Anyways.
So, got some injections.
Then this is what I think everyone's been waiting for.
Oh, okay.
I'm totally blank.
I didn't even know idea what you're going to say.
We had a little bit of time before our flight, so we went to archery country.
Oh, yeah.
Where you and I shot for the first time ever.
Mono I mono.
Mono and I, mano.
Yeah.
And I thought, I mean, you're Gideon.
The chance of you fucking even hitting the target is remote.
And then, so you pick up, was it my bow first?
Yeah.
And you're fucking stacking them in there.
I mean, and it's like half draw.
Because my draw length is 19 inches.
And you're 6.3.
Yeah, my draw length's 55.
Yeah.
So you're like this.
And just, and I'm like, what the hell is?
Is it my bow?
good. It has to be.
Because you obviously are
terrible shot. So then
Tyler says, hey, do you want to shoot his
bow? He had a RX-9.
Was it a 9 or 8?
Yeah, brand new Rx 9.
So shout out Hoyt Archery.
Yeah.
Sponsor the show.
My newest
225 bench sponsor.
Yeah, definitely.
So,
yeah, so he's like
in a, I would,
anyway, you shot his bow. I had my bow.
I'm like, okay, this is like a no-brainer, easy win.
I'm like one-er-shoot off.
That's like my thing.
I'm good for one shot usually.
If people are going to say, okay, good job on that one, can you shoot five more?
No.
No, because I'm a bow hunter.
I make one good shot.
That's all I need to do.
It's not the best of five.
One shot of the day.
Yeah, shot of the day.
Always the first shot of the day.
It's always money.
But anyway, so I said to you, Gideon, get that bow.
Let's have a one-er shoot-off for the world championship.
Just like this only way that I beat James.
Yeah, he beat me in everything else except for the world championship shoot-offs.
So we go to the one-hour shoot-off and I, no, you shot first.
I shot first.
And it looked like it was fucking high right.
Yeah.
You were, were you even aiming for the white?
What was that?
I was like, I thought it was out of the white.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
This is going to be, you know, I'm going to smoke him.
Well, I'd shot a couple times before with his bow, like he said.
And I'd noticed that I was hitting, trending up into the left.
Okay.
By quite a bit.
So I shot one more time just to figure out where I needed to aim.
Got your zero.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I did that before.
So I was like, ah, my zero was fucked up.
I thought it was out of the white too.
Yeah.
No.
So I thought, oh, I just got to get anywhere close.
and I won.
So I,
whatever,
shot a decent arrow.
Then we get up there
and it's fucking,
you were not out of the white.
Pretty close.
You were right.
We had to measure
with a little piece of wood,
a little stick and it's like,
I might have got you by a millimeter.
Yeah.
I mean,
I think you got me by a full arrow,
but still,
I was proud.
It was close.
It was close.
You definitely surprised me,
but no,
you're a good shot.
I don't know how.
For never practice.
I have a shot probably 10 months.
Probably 10 months.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you told me you were going to go back and go bow honey.
That didn't happen.
Yeah, it didn't happen.
But I was like, have you fucking been to shoot?
I mean, do you remember the lift run shoot every day?
Get ready.
Remember that whole thing?
I think this is just a game.
But you didn't do it anyway.
But you could have because you're a good shot.
Well, yeah.
I wish that would.
I don't translate.
Yeah, translates.
To the field.
Well, a lot of people are good on paper.
And how do they say in your country?
shit the bed when they start shooting animals yeah well whatever it mattered i made a good shot when it
mattered you did and that was fun yeah probably won't shoot again for another 10 months so met some
cool people at archery country love that shop yeah yeah super cool shot the second time yeah yeah we were
trying to figure out the first time we went and it was for the 10k yeah yeah did a meet and greet there
yeah so speaking of 10ks we got a 50k
Oh, yeah, we got five 10Ks.
God, dude, I am so not ready for that.
And you're doing your first 50K,
James Gideon Williams,
Frozen Trail Ultra.
Oh, boy.
December 14th.
Are you going to win?
That's what I'm going for.
I don't know.
I don't see how you don't.
I mean, yeah, it's your first one.
Long legs.
Yeah.
Efficient build.
Oh, yeah.
Incredible athlete.
Just like a thorough bread.
I mean, you know, I don't want to say it, but 225, winning a 50K, I'm a hybrid.
I was just going to say that.
That's what you need in your bio.
Hybrid athlete, baby.
Yeah, that's you.
So, yeah, when they Google me, I win.
They'll Google hybrid athlete, Gideon.
So I don't see how you don't win.
It'll be a, my photo will just be a silhouette because you have to unlock that.
character. It's like I'm a special character.
Yeah.
I totally get that.
Yeah. So that's going to be,
I mean, I think
you probably could beat me because
I fucking don't know if I
can finish one right now.
I don't know.
I ran to Spencer yesterday for a little
photo shoot at lunch.
And I was just like,
this sucks.
I'm not in the shape. And that was only like, how far
did I say that was? I think 10 miles or
Oh, God.
So just got to do that three times.
Yeah, you're like, let me check how far I went.
Oh, man.
It's going to be brutal.
Yeah, just to be completely transparent.
The furthest I run in a sanctioned event was a 10K.
So skipping the half marathon, skipping the marathon.
You did three-finger jack?
How far was that?
I think that was, what was that, 12 and a half?
Something like that.
And that's climbing a mountain.
I'll be fine.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been running a lot, so.
Yeah, you have.
It's going to hurt like a motherfucker.
But have you been running like Instagram running?
What's that?
Oh, fake running?
Yeah, like the little post, just run for the post?
Because that's what I do.
And then I go back home.
All right, go home.
No one has found out the truth yet, so I'm safe.
Yeah.
Drive to Piscca, take a pic.
I go 100 yards up the trail, take the picture, and then I come back.
So when I perform terror,
probably at the 50K, you'll know why.
That's what I do.
Yeah, I've seen it.
I know.
You've been there.
You've got most of those photos for me.
Yeah.
Yeah, so we got,
and we got a celebrity coming.
Do you know who's running it?
Hmm.
Something is
Truitt?
The Truit Haynes?
True, yeah.
He's going to have all his,
uh,
what does he,
what do we always say he's got?
Uh,
uh,
God, what is it?
Tren.
Yeah, his Tren.
Is that what we say?
I fucking didn't.
Tren Bologna sandwich.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think his cousin put up, I saw the, the, on his New York marathon, he said something like, trinity thing is possible.
So he looks like he's on steroids, but he's just, all he does is train.
and that's kind of what happens.
Nobody ever wants to do that.
So nobody ever looks like him.
Yeah, I was thinking today, and this is kind of an abstract thought,
you can tell me what you think about this.
But I move out here 10 months ago.
Don't run.
I can't bench.
I think my max bench at that time was like 185.
Is this a makeover?
Am I getting groomed?
Oh, you are.
You're getting, this is it.
That was my thought.
Oh, you're getting groomed.
I'm being groomed to be an elite athlete.
A man?
Yeah, it fucked up your whole journey as a human and now you're turning into a man.
Yeah.
That's pulled a fast one on you.
Pretty soon you're going to be like Tanner and Truitt.
Yeah.
Just freaks.
That's, uh, be careful.
My dad must have missed out on that part.
Training you to be a freak.
To be a man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's, that's good.
It's been 10 months, huh?
Yeah.
Well, now your first.
50k. Let's get it done though. Yeah, yeah. We can't. I'm, I'm attempting a 50k. Let's not check that
box yet. That box is far from checked. Fuck, those things suck, dude. I mean, every time I'm like,
you know, I've done long races and every time I do 50K, I'm like, holy shit, I forgot how hard
these were. Yeah, I have no reference. No reference, but I also have no misconceptions.
Illusions of grandeurs. Yeah. I know it's going to.
to suck dick.
Yeah, yeah.
But the good news is I know what that feels like.
Definitely good at that.
I tried to beat you to that one.
It was close.
It was a tie.
Yeah, but I think, I mean, if it's that, you're going to fucking dominate.
I'm going to lap everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, well, that's all on my list.
Hi.
Welcome to the Keep Hamering Collective, where we're doing, is it 25% of?
No, 24.
24.
Good question.
My glasses getting foggy.
Your eyes are humid.
Yeah.
So, shameless plug, Katie's Hunt,
Jake Paul versus Tyson,
Cactus Jack, jelly roll,
Wased Well, Archery Country, 50K,
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Lift Run Shoot.
Yeah.
Do we have, man, we need other guests, too, by the way.
Does anybody want to come and do a lift,
run shoot?
because I'm pretty much all out on my list.
I mean, no, we got stage steel coming, I think.
I was going to say after I do the 50K.
You?
I think I'm ready.
Oh, we're going to have Truett on.
Ooh, that'll be a good one.
Yeah, we're going to have Truitt on.
For a Lyft Run shoot?
No.
Oh, just a podcast.
Well, maybe maybe you probably do it.
We're going to, we might as well fucking do a lift run shoot.
I think we got to figure out how to get Tanner in here and you guys need to do a family podcast during Thanksgiving.
I know.
That would be funny.
Maybe.
He's kind of coming around.
He's coming around.
Maybe he'll do it.
People want to know.
People want to know, because I always say that he's the bigger beast of the two.
Okay, let's like talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
But yeah, Truitt, I'm a little nervous to run with him.
That fucker's been running.
He can run.
Holy shit.
I always told him, well, first of all, he's too fucking, I would say fat.
but he's not fat,
but he's too big to run fast,
but he's running fast anyway.
He's jacked.
Yeah,
he's jacked wearing pants and flannels.
And so I saw his splits.
I think he ran like 18,
two days ago,
10 yesterday.
And I looked at the mild times
and I'm like,
yeah,
this sucks.
Because we're going to run
when he gets here.
But,
do you think you still have the advantage
on the uphill,
though?
He's been running a lot of flat,
right?
Yeah, but I just haven't been running that much.
Well, you got a lot of time.
Fucking broken foot for five months or whatever the hell.
So, yeah, it's like all I can get out on my foot before it's pretty done is 10 miles.
You could always schedule the surgery the day before, you know?
Oh.
Oh, what a bad break, no pun intended.
I didn't check the schedule.
Yeah, my bad.
My bad.
Next year.
I want my only hope.
is that the hills still get him,
but his cardio is fucking off the charts right now.
So I'm pretty much fucked.
But it's going to be fun.
When I was running up there the other day,
I was imagining you guys passing me as I'm hating my life.
Oh, in the 50K?
As I'm on lap two and you guys are finishing.
Yeah, I did that.
I've done that race a number of times.
And I remember this guy,
my old work, he was doing it.
And I passed him.
He was fucking hurting.
I think he was on his, God, I think second lap, and he ended up quitting.
So.
I told you, I want to do it within the eight hours, but don't let me come off of that mountain until,
no matter how long it takes.
I know.
Because I know I'm going to want to.
Everybody wants to.
You come up with all sorts of shit.
You can pull out that you think it's going to sound good.
None of it really sounds good.
But I told you that one time I went there.
I finished.
I went home to a shower change.
Going back.
Because my, I think, I don't know if my brother was, but I know my stepdad was doing it.
I think it might have been one of his first 50Ks.
But I'm going back there.
An ambulance is coming up behind me.
And I pull over.
He goes around me going to Piscuit.
I'm like, fucking don't tell me.
This better not be for Greg.
So I get there.
Sure shit is for Greg.
He's up there.
He'd been puky.
You know, since.
then he's done a hundred mile.
I mean,
he's a fucking beast for 75 years old.
But at this time,
he was herding up atop,
I think,
puking and laying down.
And so somebody called like paramedics
or nine,
I don't know what they called.
But anyway,
it was for him.
So I'd be in my pants
going back up there trying to find him.
He turned out,
everything was okay.
But yeah.
But yeah,
wasn't a.
So if you have an ambulance come,
it won't be the first time.
Well,
I'll definitely be doing some puking.
I'm prone to it, apparently.
Well, if you, if you've puked on your little fuck around runs, or when did you puke?
With you.
Where?
A dry heathed.
On three finger jack.
Oh, yeah.
Why did you puke on that one?
I don't really, I don't know why you, why were you puking?
We got down to the truck.
I was, uh, whatever, but we had run out of water.
Eric and I barely brought it.
Yeah.
And when we got back to the truck, I had two big now jeans full of water.
And I justled them.
And I slammed both of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That'll do it.
Which makes it surprising that I was dry heaving.
You would think that water would come up, but steel trap.
Steel trap, baby.
Well, it's going to be, we need to have somebody film this.
December 14th.
Yeah, because you're going to be.
I'm going to be an athlete.
Well, a hybrid.
But it's also going to, there's going to be some drama, I think, involved.
in your first 50k.
100% there will be.
I wanted to make a mockumentary out of it.
My first 50K was McDonald 450K and it hurt worse than anything I've ever done.
At that time. Now I've heard a lot worse since then. But at that time and I was like,
so 2005, is that 20 years ago? So I was, you know, in my 30s,
I'm pretty old and I'm like, I guess I was, I guess,
guess apparently haven't really done that hard of shit because that was miserable.
I mean, I know I haven't.
So I'm fucked.
It's God.
I'm trying to think of one time where I was like where my legs hurt and I can't.
I don't know.
If you just keep moving, you'll finish.
But it's just like fighting those demons.
Yeah.
It's going to be brutal.
You think about all, you know, all those, you know, your female friends like Jake
Paul's girl.
girlfriend, the ring girl.
Just think about them.
Think about them watching you and cheering you on and going,
Go get in, go.
Go get in go.
I got a treat for you after this.
Coming up, yeah, coming up next, I don't know what we got.
I think we got Truit.
We'll do that when he's coming in two days.
Wednesday, right?
Oh, yeah.
Fuck, Thanksgiving's on Thursday.
Yeah.
And you're fucking coming over.
Great.
No.
House elf.
Yeah.
We're trying to help the needy and the less fortunate.
And also you're grooming, trying to turn you into a man.
So you can be invited.
Oh, that's so kind of you.
And plus, if I kill a buck, you need to take pictures of it.
Because you're not filming it because I need a fucking break.
He didn't want me to fuck it up.
God.
No, it's nice.
Just hunting out there, just chilling.
Yeah.
I don't have to think about anything.
But, all right.
Well, that's a little catch-up update with the return of the Mac, aka G-dog.
G-dog, big G.
Yeah.
2.25 athlete.
225 hybrid.
Thanks.
Keep hammering.
