Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 142 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 8

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Join Cam and Gideon (James Williams) for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly episode! On this episode they cover Cam’s recent trip to Washougal Motocross and Salt Lake City, running with Truett, the Sydney Sweeney controversy and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Follow James: https://www.instagram.com/james_g_williams/  Thank you to our sponsors: MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off and Free Shipping Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics Timestamps: 00:00:00 James Haircut, Sydney Sweeney, & Coldplay’s Kiss Cam Moment 00:06:57 James Blood Test 00:10:17 The Epstein Files 00:11:04 The Liver King Terrorist Threats 00:13:49 James'4 Worst Wilderness Shit 00:17:47 Washougal Motocross Race Recap 00:21:26 Spreading Bowhunting to New Audiences 00:25:03 Ad Break (Hoyt & Black Rifle Coffee) 00:27:38 Salt Lake City: Cam’s Value with Sponsors 00:38:51 Running the Deseret News 10K with Truett 00:42:20 James Attempt to Run with Cam & Truett 00:48:49 Black Rifle Coffee & Evan Hafer 00:50:55 Sh*t Talkers Weekly Edits 00:53:11 STFU: Influencers on Social Media 00:56:22 Upcoming Race - Leadville Trail 100 00:58:36 Utah’s Genetics Statistics 01:00:08 A Missing Connection for Larry 01:02:36 Passing the Torch at Leadville with Truett 01:03:40 Outro & Wombat Poop

Every step I take I move my truth. Every time they tell me stop I use. Every comment hate that makes my feel. Gather up my energy and boom. I hear them talking saying the way that I move it's so reckless. That is a part of my mind I've been blessed with. Giving my blood so I am relentless. This is the Keep Crammering Selective with Gideon, Cam and Larry.

And you know what? Have we showed your new haircut? Oh, no. That was, that's how I wanted to kick it off. Yeah, let's look at this. What camera are we on? Yeah, 16. Yeah.

Okay. Come on, baby. Let's do it. Ooh. Dang. You know, you know, the game that fresh cut? Yeah. You.

Yeah, baby. Mario, he kicked it off and then you had to finish it off. It was a collab. Yeah. I think there was a slight miscommunication with Mario. Took a little too much off the top. I looked like a cute. tip.

Macy, roll the clip. Here's Connor's new haircut. Looks great. Show him. Yes, I went to the same guy. So we're buzz cutting my head. Yeah. So I had Connor just go ahead and buzz it.

Okay. So that's where we're at. Yeah. So I'm also working on a neck tat so it fits the look. Oh, nice. Like a swastika. God, we're probably canceled for saying that. We're basically Sidney's Sweeney now.

Oh, yeah. That's on my list. That is on my list. That is crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. Somehow that could turn into something other than something that all humans should celebrate. Dude, my girlfriend and I were getting into that. And I was like, this is ridiculous.

People have way too much time on their hands. Everyone calls everyone a Nazi. And then it's like gene companies have been saying, have been using the gene jeans thing for a long time. Yeah. So I said, I was like, okay. So Gene, when Truit talks about his jeans. Is he now a Nazi? His shitty jeans?

Yeah. It's like, yeah, I, God, I don't, you got to work really hard. I don't know if it's just people that, oh, I mean, she's not even like, I mean, she's definitely, definitely hot. But she's not like. Yeah, I got a hot take. I don't think she's that hot. Yeah, right. So, I mean, you got to really try hard to be offended.

Yeah. You know what I mean? She's definitely cute. hot, whatever. She's not like supermodel. No. And what are we, so what? The, the guys that think she's super hot are just like,

Oh, big booms. I know, I know. Big milkers. Look at those. Motor boat. Yeah, I mean, I get it and it's cool. And yeah, I mean, hey, I'm on board. Yeah, God bless her.

But it's, whatever. I saw a bunch of stuff. People were like, this is like eugenics, you know, it's like, oh, there's perfect, a perfect race, blonde hair, blue eyes, white. And I'm like, when is that said in the ad? It's never, never was mentioned, never said, just like something about, I don't even know what it was. But yeah, the only complaint I could kind of see, but then, you know, you have to look at all the other brands, but people are like, this is an ad aimed at like back to school.

And she's being obviously hypersexualized and it's going to kick. but I'm like, you're still reaching there because it's not like back to school at the end, you know? It's not really hypersexualized. I mean, she's totally covered up. Yeah. I don't know. I did think their response was funny. God. I thought it was nuts. And then I saw, you know, everybody's like, I would have liked to have seen more models included. It's like, why did this work too good? is like I think their stock like skyrocketed everyone's talking about it's like why would you like have seen something different because to me it feels like they nailed it yeah whatever the brand awareness or whatever they're going for it worked if zendaya or zendaya zendaya yeah if she did it would

everyone be and she said the exact same thing would everyone be as mad no and no one to be talking about it so she doesn't have big old milkers jugs god I don't know. It's nuts. This is a crazy time. But I don't know. Kudos to American Eagle. I hadn't thought about that brand and forever.

Yeah. They're back on the map. They're back, baby. God. We are so back. So that's a good way to talk. Hey, it's all love, though. It's all love.

It's shit talkers. We're not, don't take this personal. No. Come on, guys. You know the rules. It's like that CEO that got. caught at the Coldplay concert. Yeah.

No one knew what the astronomer was. I didn't. And then he gets caught at the concert. And now they're up like $300 million on the stock market or something. That's crazy. Conspiracy theory? Who knows?

Genius marketing? Genius marketing? I don't trust anything. I mean, you never know. I fell forward. I looked him up afterwards. Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, never mind. Still have no idea what astronomer does.

No, I, no, me, need. either. And yeah, so that's cool. But I know their CEO is a dog. Part of the funny bunch. And he's got that motion. Yeah, I mean, is that a new thing? Is that like, it's like infidelity? Is that like, was he the first one ever? Yeah. I mean, I did see his son posted something. It was like how my life changed after my dad got caught cheating at a cold play concert. Well, now I don't even know was that really his son because I also had his daughter some stuff. And I'm like, I don't trust. Oh, and then I saw a response from his wife, apparently. But I'm sure that wasn't real. So you don't even know what you're seeing these days.

Yeah. I mean, you just kind of capitalize. Is it? Are you real? Is Larry real? Maybe that was my dad. I don't know. It's been a while since you've seen him. Yeah. I have a hard time recognizing him. Maybe. Well, speaking of perfect genes, because I do have them, but obviously I'm not reaching my maximum potential. That reminds me of maximum. What is it? Like, oh, you're not currently fat, but you're pushing maximum density.

That was in a movie. I can't remember. They said it to Molly Ringwald. I think Breakfast Club. I don't know. Fat check me. That's a good quote. Yeah.

But I got a blood test done. at home blood test. Unfortunately, I have not gotten the results back, but I'm expecting my testosterone to be negative. And you have AIDS. Yeah. Everything looks good except for the AIDS you have. Yeah.

So you haven't got it back yet? No, but I'm hoping it's low so that I can just start pinning myself. Oh, yeah. Then I get huge. Oh, you're going to be jacked. Does I already look like Stephen Kelly, so that'll really round it out. Right, Connor? Who is Stephen Kelly?

The most good-looking dude to ever walk the face of the planet. Really? He's like 6-4, probably 2.30, pure muscle. Nice mustache, curly hair. He looks like Hercules. How many of you rubbed out to him? I just found out about him this morning, so only three. He's been in his room all day.

Doing research. Just don't ask him to stand up right now. Let me find him. Look at this dude. Yeah. Okay. I mean, he is jacked. Yeah.

I mean, obviously he's gay, but. Well, I hope. That's cool. I have a chance. Yeah. What does he do? I think just that just looks good. Yeah.

Influencer. Yeah, exactly. He's like Nate Dillingsworth. It looks very comparable, yes. Yeah. That's who I thought that was from here. I mean, until I looked.

Is that? Yeah. No. No. No. But yeah, along the same lines of blood tests, shout out to America's number one real estate agent. Oh, actually I saw today. Troubleokes?

Yeah, he's been in real estate for eight years today. Really? So with that celebration, he's on a new diet plan where he's in ketosis in the morning. Okay. And he refeeds in the afternoon. So high carb afternoon, ketosis, a.m. Okay. Yeah, he fast overnight.

Yeah, eight hour fast. man that is genius dude yeah yeah i don't think i mean that's kind of i used to say i was vegetarian for eight hours of 25% of the day basically when i was sleeping but yeah i mean i saw him on piscca and it looked like it was working did it yeah he was crushing it last night i think he needs to get under the weights a little more but that's just me it's just my opinion yeah kick up that metabolism Yeah, well, I just think, you know, at a certain point, you shed so much weight, you might want to put a little bit of it back on with muscle mass. But what do I know?

I haven't done either. Well, I mean, you're like Bill Belichick. You're just a coach. Yeah. Well, that's not true. I mean, you saw, you took the picture and saw like, I'm huge. I know. You did?

I don't know. How did we do that? Was that lighting? I think it was blurry. I think you, like, I moved and you moved to the same time. Just to make it a little bigger. A little motion. Yeah, it must have been.

something because yeah you looked not as like anorexic as normal. We got all the all the keywords in here that we're going to get flagged for but it's all love yeah anorexic Nazi blonde milkers jugs American Eagle you can't say American anymore probably well I got another keyword for you Epstein files what are people still talking about that What is a big deal? I don't know. Yeah. I mean, why are, why are, I mean, why are people still talking about this?

I thought we were supposed to forget about them. After we were going to expose everybody and is a transparency, transparency. Yeah, that's right, right? Transparency. Yeah. Okay. Administration. It's all about JFK and we can expose everything.

And then like, what? People still talk about that? Idiots. Well, can't trust them because the Democrats. wrote them so yeah they put stuff in there yeah that's why if they did it was they didn't expose it yeah because they wanted to protect trump yeah um a couple other random topics it's been so long we didn't even get to talk about the liver cane in his absolute god melt down because he dead yet i haven't seen anything from him lately i mean i'm sure he looks purple like normal with blue lips and like

like one dilated pupil. But no, he's totally normal. Yeah, he's fine. Just looking for that big payday with Rogan, big fight. God, fucking nuts. Yeah, he went off the deep end bad. He did. Yeah.

Social media, it's rough. I mean, when you rise to whatever he did and then, you know, everybody moves on your same old act gets old, then what? What else? I mean, some people were like, oh, this is just a marketing ploy. It would be a,

that's a tough sell. Yeah. Maybe took it a little too far. I mean, I would get a hold of American Eagle. Like if he's looking for marketing advice, I don't know. Maybe his next video,

he'll have a big set of jeans. A huge pair of jeans. Yeah. You said of him. I do wonder, like, if I ever went crazy like that, I would hope the people around me would be like, hey, going to take your phone from you for a little bit. Real talk.

Real talk, Gideon. This is for, this is your best interest. Maybe give me a fake phone that only posts to myself. Right. Yeah. Makes it look like you're posting. Yeah. I don't know.

Rough. Yeah, that was a rough little patch for them. But yeah, I don't know. My algorithm must be off. It's shown me weird stuff lately. Like American Eagle ads. I don't know what the hell's going on with it.

Has somebody been on my phone? Which one of you guys took my phone? There's no way. That should be coming up. Oh, yeah, that's rough. I'm looking at literature, art. A connoisseur. Yeah.

Oh, cooking. Oh. Yeah, I'm a big cooker. You know, stuff like that. Yeah, there's one thing I know about you from living in Airbnb's that you love to cook. Oh, man. Yeah, it's like, it's a passion. That's why that's what should be on my phone, these casserole recipes.

Not all these offensive. Okay, well, I got a question for you. and I'll tell a story first. So this is a topic I was talking with a buddy two days ago about. And we went climbing this one time, kind of in the middle of nowhere. And he gets off the wall and he's like, I got a shit really bad. Like, okay. So he like goes back into the bushes.

We didn't have any toilet paper or anything. He comes back out and he's like, oh, that was rough. And I looked down and he's only got one sock on. standard yeah so he's like i'm like oh what's up with that he's like well i had to wipe with something whatever going climbing later on he's like dude i had to shit again something's fucked up goes in comes out no socks on and no underwear ooh so my question to you is what is the worst wilderness shit experience because i had one where bad choice but i'm holding on to this tree, this tiny little tree.

Yeah. On this embankment. And I'm shitting, thinking it'll roll down the hill. Yeah. Well, it broke halfway through. The shit or the... The brink. Oh.

That was like, the shit break. That's fairly normal. And I went backwards right onto my back. On the shit? Oh, my gosh. I slid all the way down the hill. Ooh. Yeah, that's not a good one.

That's not a good one. good one. No, that jacket was left in the hole that I dug at the bottom of the yeah. I remember well I don't know maybe I'm like blocking out any bad members I have I did hear one this weekend and I think I don't know I would I wish I knew who it was I can't even well I could guess who it was but I don't want to incriminate people but who's during an Ultra and that it takes shit, no toilet paper. So the question was asked, would you wipe with a goo wrapper? So I don't know if you've seen like a goo gel, not the best toilet paper.

No, and they'll cut the shit out of your mouth. Yeah. Well, I don't know how clean they're going to get you. But I guess I do remember one time a million years ago, we were up hunting and I think I don't know. I think my brother took a shit and wiped with a bandana and left it. And then we saw somebody with that bandana.

But I don't know how long it had been. But yeah, you got to be careful what pieces of clothing you're picking up and putting on in the woods. I don't think that works like a shower towel. No. After 24 hours, it's good to go. Yeah.

I mean, I think it was like a Hank Williams Jr. bandana, if I remember right, something like that. Well, Conner's dog the other day in the morning jumps up on my bed after she went to the bathroom, turns around real quick, and then jumps down, and left just an absolute. Oh, shit streak.

God. On my sheets. Nice. That's good. I guess she needed a goo wrapper. There's only one person that should have cleaned that up. Larry? It's all right.

I did James's laundry today, so. That's true. You got even. So you, did you get the socks from under the bed? I had to peel them off with the goo wrapper. It's that guy with the mustache. He makes some laundry.

Yeah. Thanks, Stephen Kelly. I'm out of socks. We're in all my socks. I only have one from every pair. All right. Well, into some events we've missed. Back to Washogel.

Yes. How was that? Oh, man, that was sick. Those guys are badasses. I just love, I don't know, I love to see, so it's basically this next generation of badasses. Like their young guys are in their 20s, most of them. I mean, Eli's, I think he's 32, but mostly just young and studs, just racing and trying not to get too banged up because that shit is so hard. and dangerous and gnarly and yeah so that was that was good it was military appreciation um day i know on saturday was and uh so that was cool being involved with the veterans and being able to just kind of shine a light on that and be you know part of that was a huge honor but being the grand marshal yeah it was amazing um yeah i don't know being able to shoot bows with garret and Eli and just meet everybody hang out, talk to Deegan, then have him down for the podcast the next day. It was freaking epic, dude. Shout out to Neil Storz. Yeah. He said, made all that happen. Shout out to Big Neil. God, he's, yeah, he's a stud. Appreciate the opportunity through Kawasaki.

And yeah, we're going to keep kicking ass with it. Yeah. I was just going to mention that, that writer, I can't remember his name, but he ate shit in one turn, hit his head. He's out for like 15 seconds. Yeah. Wakes up and gets back on his bike and keeps racing. Yeah. I mean, then he got pulled.

Yeah. But yeah, I'm like, is that protocol? Yeah, I think, I think Deegan talked about that. But yeah, that's not the greatest setup. Yeah. Did you ever see where, who was that? It's that really young kid who's really good from New Zealand. Oh, yeah.

Do you remember his name? No, he won in Seattle, didn't he? Yeah, just a badass. What the fuck is his name? But did you see how he got hurt? Because, you know, he broke his nose and broke his, like, humorous, which is here. But it was just during qualification, he wrecked. And some guy came over, I don't know if the whoops or just a jump, but landed on him.

Just pancaked him into the ground. And that's how he got hurt. He was like, he just wrecked and was kind of going to pick up his bike. Fucking a bike come boom, right on top of him. Yeah, that's rough. Oh, man. Cole Davies. Cold Davies.

That's who it was. Yeah, he got rookie the year, I think. He's just a, but that's just in qualification. Yeah. So you talk about racing when it's balls out, especially trying to get to that. I mean, for a lot of it, I've been learning, but a big part of the race is about to start. If you, you don't want to get back in the pack because they're getting just pelted with rocks and dirt. Yeah.

And just, so if you can get out front, you can actually race. But if you're in the back, anyway, point is, they come off that gate and get to that first corner. It's nuts. They are flying through there. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, especially when you got guys behind you that are, you know, trying to catch the leader, they don't want to slow down for your wreck, you know? No, no. It's, yeah, that's an intense sport for sure.

Those guys are studs. I love being involved and just seeing it. And then I got to go up in a helicopter. That was kind of cool. Deegan shot a bow and got up on the mountain. And yeah, we had a great time. Yeah. So you've talked about this a little bit before,

but as far as like taking bows to other athletes or other events outside of bow hunting, how do you think that helps spread bow hunting to new audiences? Oh, I mean, that's everything. Yeah. Hunters always preach to the choir have for, whatever you know for decades um you know outdoor channel was like that was all just hunters

watching it so now with social media and these these opportunities that i've been uh been you know lucky enough to have it's like yeah sharing what i love archery with most people when they shoot a bow and see an arrow go and hit hit the target and fly and they can get that excitement man it changes them so some might never shoot a bow after they shoot with me but some might never shoot a bow after they shoot with me but some might, you know, it might change our life. Point is we're sharing it with a whole new crowd and talking about why, you know, a lot of times why hunting is important, taking them on their first hunt if they'd be interested, just things like that.

And yeah, just sharing, I don't know, just, you know, something that's changed my life, which is archery and bow hunting with other, with influential people out there, it's, man, I never thought I'd have the chance to do it. So very grateful for it. Yeah. I think so, too. like shooting you guys shot at 80 yards and uh you know there's a lot of kids in that crowd who look up to those guys want to be just like them and maybe if they see them with a bow and shooting they're

like oh i should pick that up that's really cool and then you have a whole new generation that's getting into it and or at least exposed to it exactly yeah and just more familiar with it and more confidence to walk into pro shop and ask questions because they saw these guys do it so it's this trickle down effect it's really hard to measure um but I got to feel like it's making a big difference for archery. Yeah. I think the other cool thing was Eli, you know, a lot of the guys or even the fans know him is pretty quiet and reserved and they got to see like a whole other side to him as he's shooting.

You know, he lights up and he's talking about hunting. And there, you know, I saw a couple things on Instagram that were just like, you know, people kind of amazed at this new personality almost of his, which is really cool. Hold the top of that yellow balloon. Yeah. Yes. I've moved that. You should have to use your top thing.

Yeah, because both, I think him and are fairly reserved. And they were high-fiving each other, smiling, making great shots. And, yeah, if that's a different side than what the fans have seen, because we had a pretty big crowd there watching and then NBC aired it even.

it's a big deal. But yeah, I think that, and what I also liked, I don't know if it took the pressure off the racing or distracted from the pressure a little bit, but they both had great days. I mean, Garrett, I think that was his first time on a podium in Supercross. So, or it wasn't Supercross Moto.

But I think he had like one of the best days he's had on the track. And then Eli also had a good, you know, good race on Saturday. So, yeah, I just liked that. they were successful after we had a good time and if that was a coincidence great if it was directly related that's even better right hoy began with a dream and a simple desire create the best bow hunting and target archery equipment possible and since 1931 that is exactly what they have been doing i'm skeptical every year that this year's bow will be better than last years yet somehow their engineers seem to figure it out i think that's what sets them apart is their engineers are all avid

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a couple days at the end. But yeah, that was, that was a, that was busy. A lot of running. Had, had some meetings, some big meetings for me in my little world, but like sponsorship stuff. And, you know, it's weird, you know, I've been doing this a long time, getting close to 40 years now, bow hunting and started, I wrote an article about my first ever kill. So that was in, that's been a long time ago.

1989's first kill i think the article came out in like 90 or 91 but anyway been doing this for a long time and for people no matter what you do starts off as a passion is what you live and die for and then you know if it works outright and that's what you care about you start to earn value and then you start to wonder what your value is and you know i've been with a lot of my sponsors for a long time And so I never really know what is my value. Am I? Right. You know, you get this contract and it's like, oh, wow, this is incredible.

I never would have expected this. Then out of left field, there might be another offer. And you're like, wow, am I worth this? Or am I worth what this new offer is? I don't know. Right. If, you know, in this case, is two and a half times more. So it just gets you to question.

And then it's like, well, people say, well, oh, it's not all about the money. And I agree, it's not all about the money. I would do this for zero. But if you have value, I think you owe it to yourself. And, you know, those who rely on you to maximize that value, if that's, you know, what you want to do. So, yeah, I had to go back there.

And I, you know, met with Hoyt specifically and Jeremy Eldridge, which I love, you know, he's a great guy and respect. And he's done an awesome job at Hoyt and just trying to figure out what exactly my value is in this place of my life. Because as I told him, you know, whatever. I don't, this is business. If they say, hey, been a good run, appreciate you. I'm like, cool.

What am I supposed to do? I can't. Because I, you know, this train does end eventually. I'm not young. Yeah. So eventually, I'm not going to be. be whether you have this value like, you know, where I'm at now or what, what, you know, if somebody made another offer, that's not going to last forever.

Pretty soon, I won't be marketable. I won't be moving the needle, so to speak. And then what? Well, you'll have to pull a liver king. Right. Exactly. Or they'll have to say, hey, good. I mean, because if I think about it, you know, Chuck Adams shot Hoyt for forever.

the most successful bow hunter in history, 200 and some poping young animals, six or seven world records, my hero growing up, and he had to move on. Yeah. So if that guy had to move on, because whatever the case,

it's a different time, different era, and he's not, like, quote, selling bows or as marketable as he once was, because at one time, they, Hoyt actually marketed him as the world's most well-known bow hunter. And then he wasn't.

Right. And then he was shooting bear, bear bow. And shit happens. It changes. You're not. You know, yeah,

do I have a lifetime contract? Yeah. But man, that shit can, there's always language in there that, it can be terminated 30 days written notice. So it's like, is it really lifetime?

I mean, I don't, Hoyt has been amazing. And, you know, in talking with Jeremy, it's like, they've done everything I've asked for. I mean, I have my own bow. I have a 90 pound bow. I have, they came out for lift,

run, shoot. They've supported this podcast, me, I can't complain. The Hoyt has been incredible. They're the leader in the industry. They help RMEF. They help grow archery internationally. It's like, yeah, it's just been, I can never say one negative thing.

It's been nothing but positive. But you have to look at, I mean, I have to be real. This doesn't go forever. Yeah, right. This, I don't last forever. Right. So how does that, what does that look like? Anyway, so had that discussion.

And, you know, I mean, I'm, I told him, I said, I probably might mention this talk just because I'm pretty transparent. I don't, fuck it. I don't have anything to hide. It's like, this is what I do. This is what I've done my whole life. I've been, I've written books. I've written articles.

I've had podcasts. I've talked about all the challenges, all the business things, the times I haven't been paid when I was supposed to be paid. The people who owed me money never, never did it promise me hunts never happened it's like it just happens it's just oh i mean you know the whole origin thing it's like yeah it's it's an imperfect world and that and you know this business is part of the world so it's going to be imperfect um and then also i do a lot of you know uh oh this like when i shot this ketone thing off of uh michael brand's head

which I didn't. It was edited, but it triggered a lot of people. So I do a lot of stuff that shooting through the windows of the Kawasaki or my truck or whatever. It's just like I get, when people are looking to be offended, like when we talk about Sidney-Sweeney, that's our culture.

They want to be triggered. I help them. I'm like, oh, yeah. Oh, you like to criticize me? You like to look for things to maybe call me out on? Well,

I'm going to help you out. Because I don't give a fuck. Right. It's funny. I don't, I'm not, I'm not breaking laws. I'm not, you know, I'm not doing anything like, like, that would hurt, quote, my legacy or my reputation. I'm just shooting my bow. Yeah.

Right. And I do it. I kind of like, I'm on the, on the edge a little bit on stuff, but it's fine. It's just what I do. It's what I've always done. I like to challenge myself with, like, even shooting the balloon to start the motor. race or the that uh that practice run there up there washugel i like to do stuff like that it i like to put myself in high pressure situations to prepare myself for the hunt some people don't get that

sometimes i am trolling people but it's still all for a reason is to make me better in in the heat of the moment right um so yeah i mean i talked about that and i know that probably some of my sponsors it probably makes, I don't know, makes their job. I don't know if it makes it hard. I don't know. I know that even some pro staff people complained about when I shot this off, well, edited to shoot it off Michael Brandt's head, called and were like all upset. And then Jeremy was like, did you watch the whole clip? Because I showed at the end where it was edited.

And that was people on my own team. trying to fuck up my little situation. So thanks guys. Or I actually know. Well, he never said who it was, but one could guess. I can take an educated guess, which is fine. It's just like, hey, in this business, it's competitive. And guys talk shit about each other.

It's just the way it goes. Yeah. I mean, you're never going to please. everybody, you know. If you play to one side, then the other side's going to be more angry. And if you do try to please everybody, you're going to end up with something that sucks anyways. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not worried about it. I mean, if any sponsor right here said, hey, we're moving on, I'd be like, check, copy, all good. Yeah. No word, no words. I'm going to, I'm going to do what I do no matter what. Yeah. I don't, I mean, yeah, it means a lot to have

these long time sponsors and partners and have the support and have them believe in me, that does mean a ton. But I don't live or die by it. I don't live or die by, you know, people on social media like, oh, I'm unfollowing you. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. What do I care? I didn't care if you followed me. I don't care if you unfollow me.

Yeah. You can do your thing. That's like Karen's being like, you just lost the paying customer. Good. Yeah. Bye bitch. I don't want to talk to you either. Anyways.

Yeah, so it's a, I mean, God, it's just, it's a crazy time, but I don't, you know, all I care about, what I, what I loved about the Utah trip. Yeah, Jeremy is the best, Hoyt's the best. I love that experience. Black Ruff of Coffee with Evan Hafer, so much respect for Evan. And we got a great thing going there. We're going to kick ass with her, you know, with my own signature coffee. And that's going to be cool because I, you know, I really like what he's about. He's, He's like the, you know, and we're, you know, partners at Archery Country along with Tyler and Joe Rogan. So we bought that. And that's not like any of these deals really. I told Evan, I don't need anything. I don't want, I don't want any. I don't, for me personally, I'm good. There's nothing that I think about that, oh, man, I need to get this deal because then I could do this.

I don't, there's nothing I want to do. I'm fine. So this is for when I'm gone, maybe owning archery country or having this steak in black rifle coffee or, you know, this, you know, whatever I do, that's for my family and, you know, my sons and daughter and wife. And this isn't for me. I'm trying to make long-term investments in the future. And that's what these deals are right now. And so me personally, I don't need anything.

I don't want for anything. I'm good. I feel what I like to do is partner with good people, love Jeremy, love Evan. Didn't run mountains with cool people like the guys from the Next Day Station podcast. Man, the best. Mick and Jake, that's just what I love to do. Hard run. Good day.

Good people. Truant went. Being Trude after the 10K, we ran a, you know, He ran a fast 10K. I kind of went through 10K, but then we went and did Ben Lohman Peak there. That's what I love to do. Yeah.

Shit like that. Yeah. I mean, I had on my list kind of the details of the 10K. Obviously, Trude did run a blistering fast 10K. God, he is so shredded right now. Holy shit. You see him doing pull-ups the other day?

Oh, my. In the park? Yeah, I didn't know. It was on his new episode. Yeah. God. Shredded. I don't know because he's, you know, losing weight. The key to what to his goals right now is to get light. So he wants to get, I say, I think he says 155.

I say it needs to be 153. But whatever the case, he's like 163 right now. And I mean, his back is nuts. Everything. And he's fast. Yeah. Holy shit. 315810K, which is 509s.

Yeah. His first mile was like four something, wasn't it? Yeah, like the first two, I think, 450, 447. That is flying. Yeah, yeah, it was, you know, a slight downhill course. My first mile was my slowest. It didn't help me too much, but my body is, I just, I'm old and fucking creaky. To get going on a 10K like at that, so I ran 548s.

That's like sprinting. I can't just take off on the line sprinting these days. Give me a mile or something to get like the juices going. So my first mile, even though it was downhill, is like a 600 foot over the total course of 6.2 miles, 600 foot. But most of that was in the first couple miles. And so I didn't take advantage of it at all. And then also it's 4,500 feet elevation, which, you know, we're at 300 here.

So that doesn't make breathing easier. I just, I didn't feel like I had got a great advantage from that race. I should have been faster than I was because in Eugene here with an uphill course, I ran 36 something. I can't remember what now. So I should have been at least 35, like 3530, which my best is 3509. So I should have been close to that, but wasn't. but yeah it's a yeah fast 10ks suck yeah well i liked the uh juxtaposition between the 10k and then

the next day on olympus which you were putting everybody in the dirt i liked that too yeah yeah i'm better definitely better in the mountains i mean today you wouldn't know that i'm like wrapped up the the week and I'm hurt, but I had a 20,000 foot vert week. This is what I try to do every week is at least 20 and didn't get the miles in. I was finished at 85. But a little banged up after that, but yeah, I'm definitely better climbing. Yeah, I mean, you put one of us and specifically really in the dirt, and I won't mention who it is. That was not, we did not set you up for success on that. To have you start with us, I was saying next time I got to do a better job of like, how would I think you would like start with us and then you'd be able to get on anything on film?

No, that was brutal. That was brutal. So here's how it went. But I take full responsibility. I said we should have Connor with us, had like a tag team. You guys show up like hours before, get to the top, something like that. I just didn't. I was actually being a bitch about you even going.

for whatever reason. So that wasn't a great start. I just, I'm, I fuck. But anyway, point is, um, you started with us. We went up to top, came down,

saw you again. And I was like, take the keys. Take the keys. I'll Uber. So, so yeah, that,

what you did get back for, which, so finally, did you Uber back or no? No, you rode with, I think Alicia. Oh,

Because, you know, I saw your wallet in the car. So I'm like, well, shit, how are you going to Uber? Pay on my phone. Oh, yeah, I didn't think about that. But anyway, so I left the keys and I rode with Truitt and Alicia. They dropped me off at the hotel. Then you got there. I took a quick shower.

Then you took me to the podcast. And you hadn't drank or ate after being abandoned on the mountain. Couple things I set myself up for failure here. The day before did a lot of gain, which I haven't been running at all. I've been trying to gain weight. No, you did 4,000 feet. And, but sore, a little sore from that. Okay.

And so going to the next day, I thought, you know, it's a good idea. I'll have a couple bites of one half of a bagel. I saw you in the continental breakfast. Yeah. And then three and a half miles, four thousand feet of gain, no big deal. How does that math work? Is this like, that is steep? Yeah.

Well, either way, by about mile two, I knew there was no way in hell. I'm getting anywhere close to the top. I was like, I told you I was watching the 0.01 tick by. That's like every step. Dude, I would take 10 steps and I'm like, this thing still hasn't changed. Yeah, that's. Well, because the top was what, three and a half,

but there was a saddle. I think the saddle was three and a half. Oh, yeah. No, three six six. Yeah. Because then after I got back down, I said, where are you? And you were like two six or two five.

I'm like, oh, you're not making it to 366 then. Because I'd already been to the top and back down to that saddle. But yeah, so anyway, it was a... Yeah, I made it to three miles and turned around. Then you guys came. Dude, it hurt to go down. Yeah. My quads were so blown up.

I'm like, I honestly, at the end there, it started to get like super hot. I still had like half a mile left. And I was so pissed because I just wanted to. wanted to run down. Yeah. And I just, every time I'd try to run, I would like trip over something.

I'm like, I'm going to, break my ankle. God. Yeah, it's terrible. Here's what I've learned. The mounds,

don't give a fuck. No. They, yeah. They don't make it any easier on anybody, do that? No,

they do not. But yeah. That's a good, that climb is a grind. Can you imagine doing that every day? I'd love to. You'd be a beast. Oh my God.

I'd love to. Yeah, Trude said something about What about carry the rock up there? That would probably be the hardest thing anybody's ever done. Oh, my, dude. Definitely way harder than having a baby. Yeah. So, yeah, here's the ranking.

Carrying the rock up Olympus, getting kicked in the nuts, having a baby. Yeah, or no. Having a cold if you're a man. Yes. And then having a baby. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I thought it was funny because it was Jake who had the 50K the next day, right?

Yeah, he did. Yeah. At a hard 50K. Yeah. God. 11,000 feet of gain. Yeah. So maybe not the best thing to do before 50K.

He did pretty good though. Did he? He's 741. Which he was thinking he's going to be like nine hours because it's a slow one. I mean, that's a hard 50. That's probably one of the hardest 50Ks out there. Yeah. I mean.

Speed goat 50K is legit. Because I know that climb baldy, which is nuts steep. I mean, probably about, probably similar, because it's just like two basins over from where we were. But yeah, those guys, yeah, went and talked to their team at One Solar, I think it's called, and incredible building. They've built an amazing business.

And I'm super impressed with those guys. And just good, good dudes. Yeah. I love their podcast. Yeah, they're funny. They're funny. They're good people. Yeah, I just, I feel like we're best friends.

So it did that. And then finally had a couple waters and a dry bun, double patty meat bun burger. That was one of mine. I gave it to you. Yeah. And I get plain just meat and a bun. No sauces. No funny business.

Yeah. Was it the extra small one? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Extra small double cheeseburger. Connor coming back from. while Shugo was trying to not be a fat ass, so he ordered a double bacon cheeseburger or quarter pounder? What was that?

Yeah, double quarter pounder with cheese. And then I just wanted the regular double cheeseburger. So I said, and can I just get one of the small regular double cheeseburgers? And she was like, another double quarter pounder? And I was like, no, the small one. Yeah. So we were giving him, we were giving him shit about his small fat. Yeah. I mean, it makes a lot of sense if you don't think about it. it. Can I get the extra small, large fry, please? Yeah. Could I, you want to see my small big dick? So it's just, it just catches you off guard, I think, is what it is. Yeah. But it's fine. I mean, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. But, so you did that podcast. Then we went to Black Rifle, which I think

that was my favorite part of the few days I was there. Yeah. That's the first time I've really gotten to spend a duration or an extended period of time with Evan just super sharp super smart guy that's what I started to say that earlier but he's like the prototypical prototypical CEO he's just fucking smart and knows how to run business and it's like I fucking don't so I was like could you come and run my business for me that'd be great but yeah so being in in partnership with him at archery country and then also black rifle now it gives me a lot of confidence because man, he's one of the smartest business people I've talked to. Yeah, I think it was super inspiring for me how he was just like not emotionally attached to any

of the ideas and could go through them one at a time and say, this won't work, here's why, this won't work, here's why. And it was like, damn. Yeah. No, no like, well, let's maybe leave this on. It's just like, not worth it. Move on. Oh, I know. It doesn't waste time on, on stupid shit. No. But yeah, I thought, uh, can identify stupid shit. Like so fast. Yeah. But I don't know. That's,

he's great. They did, you did some coffee tasting. Yeah. There's a whole art to that. I don't know anything about. But basically here's what I do. That's pretty good.

It's about, I mean, I guess it's a little different, maybe not as good. That's about as good as it gets. Here's what a coffee smellier does. No, is it a spoon,

though? Oh, yeah. You can't have a cup. Yeah, I don't know. You got to get that coffee to like go, like,

I think Errorite it? Yeah, I would have it probably come out my nose if I try to. It would come out my ass. And nose. Yeah, it would be like just an explosion out of Orpuses.

Ears, eyes, nose, ass. Dick. Everything. I don't want coffee coming out of my ass. No. I don't know. What's Macy going to do with this? We trust her judgment, don't we?

Yeah. She does a good job. She does. It was great job. I've never had her like, okay, so we have this one, well, on most shit talkers, I think half of it will get cut out. And then I listen to it because I say, I got to have to, you got to give me the, let me give a one run through just to make sure. And I've never had any extra changes.

Or no, I think I did one time. I didn't want to offend maybe a certain person. I can't remember now. But that's the only time. Normally she's just like, just nails it. Yeah, I will say there's been a couple times where she's so good. It's too good, actually, and takes out maybe some of the jokes. Like, what was the one about San Diego and whale pussy?

Yeah, whale vagina. I don't think anybody's ever said whale pussy. I don't think anybody said whale vagina either. Yeah, Ron Burgundy did. Did he say whale vagina? Yes. Oh. He said, San Diego means whale's vagina.

Yes. Discovered by the Germans. In 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina. He said that. That's where I got it. And then she took that out. It's like, Yeah. That was a good one. It probably is time to refresh the farmer from Napoleon Dynamite. What was that again? Oh, wait, here. Do we have one?

Oh, we have an arrowhead? Where is my arrowhead? I had one. Is it in this thing? Oh, I... Dang it. Here, just pretend like that's an arrowhead. And that Creek Manor is where I found this is a Sony Arrowhead.

That is good. Well, here... I was supposed to be sending this to San Carlo, so I didn't do that either yet. But that was good. But now it's not my fault, so... Oh, okay. Yeah, it's definitely your fault. Everything's your fault.

Yeah, true. True. All right. Last topic of the shit talkers weekly. STW? STW. God, we need merch. We do need merch. Yeah. You got your, what is that?

Broken Dick shirt or spoke? Spoke. It's got. What is it? Sidney's on the back. Nice. Is that a Nazi on there? Yeah.

I posted, there was some fat white girl, like some fat white girl I reposted. And I said, why don't you try shutting the I just said? Well, you try to put STFU. Shut up. Yeah. And Instagram says, do you want to redo this caption? This has been blah, blah, blah. So I put asterix in between the STFU in letter.

But anyway, this is some, you know, fat white girl bitching about Sidney Sweeney. And I'm like, you got the same genes except you're just ugly and fat. It's like, well, I mean, you're no different than her, really. So shut the fuck up. Yeah, one of you, you know you can make yourself not fat. You can? That's what they say. I don't believe that.

I'm trying to make myself fat. Yeah, I don't believe that. Well, people who say that, you know what they are? Nazis. You can't make yourself not bad. If you're going to be a victim, your whole life, yeah, you can. can't change yourself. You can't change your situation. No. You just bitch about where you're at. Then what do you have to complain about? Right. What do you have to be, then you wouldn't be

triggered about stuff. I did see that he's a, I think he's a gym influencer, but he's mostly like calls women out or guys out, whatever it is for making people, making fun of people in the gym. Or girls like setting up their phone and then saying guys are staring at them. Joey Swole. heard him? I think so. Bald dude, he's jacked. Anyways, he got canceled because he posted a video of him dressed up as Hulk Hogan when Hulk Hogan died.

And everyone was like, you're a Nazi and a racist because that's what Hulk Hogan is. God. So his response was literally like, I'm done with social media. Fuck you guys. God. Dang. Yeah. Oh, that's a crazy time.

I think the fact that they have to work at least. 80 hours a month to get their food stamps now they'd have less time to complain but i guess not no they're resourceful they are very resourceful those people it's all part of the epstein cover-up isn't it i think joey josey swolls hired by uh somebody sidney sweeney whose distraction off the fstein files has to be they killed ozy osborne yeah just just covered up yep yeah definitely he was in perfect health So there's no reason. Yeah, that was out of the blue. Took everybody by surprise.

Yeah, I don't know. What a crazy time. I mean, I'm sure we'll be canceled off of something we've said here. Yeah, most likely. Okay, last topic. And that is we are approaching Leadville. How you feeling? Not good.

Yeah, last couple days, not been great. God, that reminds me. So let's do a podcast with. Leadville people. But Olympus was a good showing, so balance it out. Yeah. I mean, at my age, though, there's good and bad days. You just got to, you're like more bad days and good days.

That was a good day for whatever reason. Today, if I had to race it. Well, no, even in that 10K race, here's what happened. I took off. It felt like my hip came out of socket. First of all. And then what else happened? hip came out of socket.

Oh, hamstring was like on the verge of popping. Yeah, so for people that don't know, that 36 minute 10K was with a medical tent stop. Yeah, I know. And a full system reflux. No, they put me up on the diagnostic. Like they do your car. But, yeah, made a few tweaks.

Yeah, deleted the chip. And I was going again. Then you were rolling coal. Yeah, my freaking, my hip, I don't know. know what the hell happened. It felt like it came out. It's like, why are they making me sprint to start this? It seems like maybe I should have started like a mile. That's what I was saying and time it perfectly. Yeah. I don't know. Here's what it was. So I think the course was a little bit long because my watch said 6.23, a 10k 6.2. So at 6.23, I was 36 even. I stopped my watch. Or no, no, no, I didn't.

but at 6.2 as 551. Anyway, point is, I think the course was nine seconds long. How about that? Well, I know on Olympus that extra 0.03 would have taken me half an hour. Yeah. Yeah. We're lucky we didn't have like the courses off on Olympus. Because that would have really...

How's that for a 10K time? That would really made a difference. God, I love those mountains, though. Utah. Oh, dude. What, how did you, this didn't make the list?

What are you, Connor? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, Connor can bring it up. He doesn't know. The per capita of hot girls to gin pop is fucking like 50%. Unbelievable. It might be higher than 50%.

I mean, yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. I don't know. They got, yeah, I don't know, something's going on. Something's in water. Healthy living, yes. But yeah, that's for, you know, for a single young,

strapping young man. Yeah, God bless him. Man, Salt Lake is. That's where I would be moving. Popping. And the thing is, with so many in such a confined space, they begin to feel like they're nothing special. So if you're a decent looking guy.

If Sidney Sweeney was there, you wouldn't even... Wouldn't even double take. You wouldn't even look at her. No. That's just for context. Yeah. Something else that probably... James told me this.

This, I didn't... And somebody else told me this. Oh. Yes. So this is, right. This is like kind of through the grapevine. Yeah. I didn't notice at all.

No. But somebody did. Yeah. And they told us about it. And it was really kind of them to tell us. And I just thought it'd be pertinent, information to share here. Yeah.

That's all. The other thing that should have been on the list was we are looking for a missing connection for Larry. Again, there's someone who doesn't belong in Eugene who happens to be in Eugene. She has to be from Salt Lake. We just want to make sure she can get back to Salt Lake. She's okay. Yeah.

Do you need help? Yes. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Just get Samaritans. Exactly. We care.

We do. As men, that is our responsibility. Absolutely. Yeah. It's noble and is beautiful. It is beautiful. I can't get a license plate number. The same source that we had talked to, you know?

Yeah, this, the grapevine source that we got this information from. Well, here's what it was. He was waiting for a parking spot that she pulled out of. So naturally you're going to notice the, um, the car and she was driving a little reckless so oh it's because of that safety yes yeah and because of that you know almost called 911 to say hey there's this is dangerous exactly again just being a good smear and then it's just like okay well no I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt she's probably tired from hiking yeah and maybe need some water could be dehydrated yeah I think she was

she definitely looked like she had expended some from the grape line Yeah, so anyway, Larry, how does Larry tie into this? Well, he was looking for the missing connection. Yeah. What was it connect? I just want to make sure she got back to Salt Lake. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I see.

Okay. Well, that's, okay, that's cool. So, Larry, she probably doesn't have an ex-boyfriend that would bust down the door at four in the morning. Yeah, probably not. Did that happen? Oh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. The grapevine, though. Not to me. I don't, well, I heard about somebody. Right. Well, here's, so here's what I've learned over my course of a long, painful life. Girls like that usually aren't single. I mean, I don't know why, but anyway. Yeah. So, anyways, enough from the grapevine. Feeling good about Leadville, you're going to get first. Yeah. I'm going to try to finish. Let's go for that. So we got, it's the 16th. What's today? 30th.

Yeah. Man. You and Matt Johnson are going to try to finish. I'm going to start jogging. I'm going to try to get in shape. Now Matt's running across, I don't know what. Texas. Is it?

The length wise. Oh, the length of Texas. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So he's 1,000 miles. That's legit. Wait.

So he's not doing Leadville anymore? No. Oh shit. I didn't know that. Yeah. No. Okay. It's supposed to be head to head against Truitt for a while, but that's been, that's been kind of pushed to the wayside quite a while ago. So now it's just Truitt. Okay. Well, passing the torch.

Yes. You guys are passing the torch. Yeah. Did you bring your torch? I do not have my torch. But we're going to film this bitch, make a film, and hopefully I finish. You guys will see it in 2029. All right. Okay, guys, that's a wrap. We've got to go, you got to film me in bed. That's a wrap.

Larry, you got anything? I got one of our staple fun facts. Okay. You guys need one. Yeah, we do. We were talking about poop. Yeah. Right?

In the woods. Yes. Did you know that wombat poop is cube-shaped? Whoa. This helps prevent it from rolling away, which is handy for marking territory. It did not know that. Did not know that. What?

Man. So where would it, do they live in really steep country? Where would it roll to? Let's find out. Yeah, I didn't know. They live in Australia mostly, so flat. Flat terrain. So I'm not sure why sheep shaped is important, but.

We'll just go with it. We'll go with it. It is a fun fact. Yeah. Fun bunch of fact. Is that camera on right there? Yeah. Okay, good.

Because that's camera 47. 47. Yeah. We're on 47 right now. We need that one on. All right. Thanks, guys. That was Shit Talkers Weekly.

It's been a little while. Sorry for the delay, but we're back, baby. We are so back. I think we got ways to well here Friday. Oh, really? Stim cell. Stim cell delivery. They have to collect a live sample.

All right. We'll see you guys. Keep hammering.