Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 155 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 12

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode! This week Cam and James clear up the air from recent backlash about whether or not a 50K is a marathon, if it’s safe to run Cocodona after only... training for a year, charity in running events and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00  James is in Hot Water: Is a 50K an Ultra Marathon? 00:07:23  Koda Runs: Clearing up “Not a Runner” Statement 00:17:05  Social Media & Couch Quarterbacks 00:23:23  Having Delusional Goals Growing Up 00:33:56  Kallai Buyna: 75 Miles in 12 Hours 00:36:05  Chit Vera: Robbed in the MMA 00:38:46  Current & Upcoming Giveaways 00:43:18  Running for Charity: Thoughts on Paul Johnson’s Recent Race 00:51:25  Big’s Backyard Ultra 00:56:39  Government Shutdown & Backlash for Supporting Public Lands  01:03:52  Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off  LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off and Free Shipping

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Starting point is 00:01:43 They keep hammering pack out, my signature blade, built for the back country. Get yours October 1st before they're gone. Every step I take, I move my truth. Every time they tell me stop I use. Every comment hate that makes my feel. I can say in the way that I move it's so reckless. That is a part of my mind I've been blessed with giving my blood so I am relentless. All right. This is the Keep Hammering. This is, no, not the Keep Hammer Collective. This is completely separate from the Keep Hammering Collective. We don't want to be associated with this in any way. No. This is shit talkers Weekly with Gideon. Shit Talkers Weekly 12.5. It is. Well, I thought it was so. Okay. So I was screwed. I thought 11 was last. No. Yeah, 11 was last time. The one that counted. Because we did one that didn't count. Is that while you're at 12.5? I thought last. Last time. I thought last. I thought last. Last time.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I was 12. But that might have been the one that we, so we got to redo one. I'll just let you guys, a little BTS action, a little behind the scenes. You guys probably don't know what that means because we're in the business and you're not,
Starting point is 00:02:48 so you're, you know, clueless. Obviously, you don't know shit about Shinola. Anyway, we tried to do this before, and I was in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:03:01 James went too hard at his haters, I think. And so we, we decided that it actually wasn't that funny is more like mean yeah i think we finished and we're like i will have to listen to that and a couple hours later you texted me and said we're going to have to read you i was just thinking about it and also i was talking to my counselor which is briana um aka massage therapist but kind of told her about and she was like uh uh so i'm like shit anyway um So we decided to redo it because it is all love.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And the love kind of got, maybe could have taken some of the love the wrong way. The love got a little questionable. It was a little like, just a little spank on the tush love. It's like a little, just to let her know who's daddy. It went from spanking your child to domestic violence. No, so anyway. Yeah. We decided
Starting point is 00:04:08 because yeah it can't be it's all love it can't be it's all DV you know I mean it just doesn't have the same ring to it
Starting point is 00:04:18 and also it doesn't make it quite a good as t-shirt yeah it's like the one time we had a guest on who wasn't sure if he could say wife beater or not yeah that's right yeah
Starting point is 00:04:29 but we're back we're back and this time we're going to do it with love yeah definitely not even we're going to do it slow sensual and with eye content. We don't have to kiss. Because that's,
Starting point is 00:04:51 I mean, that's going a little too far. Yeah, yeah. So with a little hate. Okay. So I'm gonna, we're in better moods, so I can start it off not as hot this time. But I found myself in a little hot water. Really? After the last one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:07 The one that did, imagine if the one that didn't count would have come out. If you were in hot water from the one before, which was basically like, hey guys, you can do it, but let's just, let's be careful. Here's something I noticed. Well, let's just say. Yeah. So if that was hate, the one we didn't put out, wow.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah. Anyway, so we're back. Let's hear a bunch of concerns, questions, whatever the hot water was you mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. So people express their concerns for my take on a 50K being an ultramarathon or not. which, if you didn't listen, I said, I don't think it counts. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And what did I say? You said, you do think it counts. I think it counts. Right. James is a fucking idiot. So why would we care what he thinks? But anyway, some people took exception to it. Yes. And I just, I need to say that, I got a couple things to say.
Starting point is 00:06:05 One, some people said, you know, I was really excited to do my first ultramarathon. 50K,K, it's coming up in a couple weeks. train him for a year. Why are you training for a year? It's fine. No, that's fine. I'm kidding. Yeah, right. But remember that what is it? One percent of the population of the world, a world, the United States, I don't know, do a marathon. So five more miles. Right. Good effort. But they said, I guess I just won't do it anymore since it's not counted as an ultramarathon. Oh, man. Which. My response to that was, one, you shouldn't be doing it so you can be called an ultramarathoner.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You should be doing it for yourself. You shouldn't care what I think about it or what anybody else thinks about it. Two, I'm just trying to discredit my accomplishments, not anybody else's. I just know that if I was able to do it, we shouldn't be calling it an ultra marathon. You're just self-depreciating. That's kind of who you are. Yeah. So you're shitting on what you do, but the other people shouldn't take it personal.
Starting point is 00:07:11 No. And it's just, and it's all love. But also it's, it's just your, it's your opinion. Yeah. Who gives a fuck? It's like your opinion, man. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And are you, so I just sent a video to Mick who's doing, what is that one? Havillina. Havillina. And a javelina. Javelina 100. And I just said, he's wearing a t-shirt right now that says, offended guy. So are you just looking to be offended? Is that what people do?
Starting point is 00:07:44 It seems like it. So they take the comment of you. You're talking about yourself. You say, for me personally, I don't count as an ultramarathon, blah, blah, blah. Who gives a fuck? That's your opinion. It's like that doesn't impact anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And I'm not discrediting the fact that you ran 31 or 32 miles. It's really hard. I'm not discrediting that it's hard. I'm just saying we got, like you said, we got 300 mile ultramarathon. Right. Did you see that clip? Did you ever find that? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:08:11 So I said there's a guy out there who said he was doing a 50K. Yeah. And he's like, that's an ultramarathon. Because for people that don't know anything over a marathon is considered an ultra. Right. So he said, I'm doing 31 miles. Gagins just did the Moab 240, 240 miles, which is also an ultramarathon. He's like, how are these the same thing?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Yeah. Because one is eight times further than the other. He goes, so what I'm doing shouldn't be called an ultramarathon if that's an ultramarathon or vice versa. Yeah. Anyway, we might have some whatever. Yeah. I'm going to motion for the 50Ks to be called extra marathons. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Marathon plus. Yeah. Plus size. And we love the plus size. We're all inclusive. Oh, yeah. Just more cushion for the pushing. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Exactly. On the marathons? Oh, on your. Marathon plus size. Oh, okay. Yeah. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So, you know, plus size. Marathons need love too. So, okay, glad we covered that. Now, the second one is a little more... We got to go in depth. Yeah. Fat shamy? Fat shamy, body shamy, gatekeeper-e.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Okay. What's this one? So I got into some hot water with Coda Runs. Now, I didn't mention his name, but people figured it out. He does this thing called Couch to Cocodona. That would be pretty easy to figure out because nobody's ever done that. And nobody ever will in one year. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:45 The big thing I got in trouble for is I said, not a runner. Now, people, I think, kind of skewed that, like saying he's not the runner type. He doesn't have the runner's body type. I don't give a fuck. That's not what I'm saying. You look like a giraffe. Are you a runner? No.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You've seen a giraffe run? Are they runners? A baby giraffe. Okay. Go ahead. That's not what I was saying. I'm just saying in the beginning, the very. beginning, which I scrolled back to his first really ever posted, which I liked, by the way,
Starting point is 00:10:15 way back then, he said, you know, I'm running, but I just got into it, which I could infer that before that he was not a runner. If he, if he's just getting into running, prior to just getting into running, you would be not a runner. Not a runner. I think he called himself a pre-runner. Pre-runner. Okay. Yeah. No. But- Is that like pre-com? I love when like somebody on the internet's acting like a dumbass and somebody comments, definitely a pre-cum baby. Yeah. So if you take offense to that, we might be talking about you.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah. But no, Coda, I'm glad that you're inspiring people. I never questioned that. I'm glad you're getting healthier. I never questioned that. I am questioning the ability to go from not being a runner, which you weren't. And on the couch. And on the couch.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It's not like not being a runner and being like, like a D1 wrestler. Which, by the way, in a year would also be next to impossible. It's, I mean, I have told a D1 wrestler, which is our friend Rodney Williams, I don't think it's good to go from just surviving a hundred-miler to, he did mammoth. He made it, but it was a struggle and it was kind of dangerous sometimes. So if I'm telling a D-1 athlete, I don't think that's a good idea. What do you think I would tell somebody who has never run?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah. Maybe the same thing? They're not an elite athlete. And do you think that, oh, no, that was just rules for elite athletes who already have proven themselves in the fire who've dug deep in different things. And now it's kind of translate to this endeavor. What if you've never done that? Do you think that somehow you're more prepared?
Starting point is 00:12:05 No. No. So if that's the rules that I, and I don't make the fucking rules, guys, I don't. Who the, I am, I, if you look at my bio, it says, bow hunter. It doesn't say runner. I say I'm not a runner. Personally, when I run with elite runners, I'm like, if I run with an Olympian, I'm like, I'm not a runner.
Starting point is 00:12:26 That is a runner. Right. So it's different levels. But if I'm saying that there's, there's challenges and dangers and risks associated with these multi-day long races for even elite athletes. because the elite athletes had health concerns and had to drop at Kocodona. So if the rules,
Starting point is 00:12:49 kind of the rules I'm putting out there apply to them, what do you think? Why are you taking that personal? No. It's not about you. It's about everyone. Yeah. And people could say,
Starting point is 00:13:01 oh, well, why do you even care? Well, there are associated risks that come with these long races, but also you become the race director's responsibility at that point. Yeah. and the volunteers and the people that have to keep track of everybody. So there are consequences to this endeavor.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And all we were saying is maybe we should focus on a different goal first. I mean, there's nothing wrong. My first ultra was a 50K, my first few. And it was a heart. It was the hardest thing I'd ever done. It took me six hours. I'm just saying that I had a lot to learn before I was ready. I'm not saying everybody's like me and just because I did it, you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Nothing. I'm not saying that at all. But you mentioned the race directors. And this kind of comes up or is coming up more because some of these big races don't have qualifying standards, right? Anybody, you pay $2,000, you're on the star line. Right. That's good and bad. That's great because if you haven't had the time to travel to these other races or maybe whatever, and this is going to be a first one, then that's, I mean, that's an amazing opportunity. but it's not without risks. But the point is, is the race directors fall in this weird spot. I'll just say it's, I've done a lot of Candace, Burt's, Ultras, Destination Trail. And what she has at the beginning of the races is you repeat what she says. And part of what she says is if I get lost, injured, hurt, die, whatever, it's my own damn fault.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And everybody has to repeat that. So you're saying I signed up that's essentially your waiver. Anything that happens to me is my responsibility. You're saying that and that's on film and it's like whatever. But people still blame her. They still will always blame the race director. How could you put these runners in this position? Even though you said anything that happens is your responsibility.
Starting point is 00:15:02 They still point to her and say like even on the Sla, and Moab, I think that has some weather come in. And people are saying she should have rerouted the course. and it's like, or will some runners made it through and they made it through? Why should it be different for other people in the field? Anyway, there's hard decisions all the time. There's getting aid these A stations. There's runners who drop getting them out.
Starting point is 00:15:25 You know, sometimes it's hours and hours and hours before you can, these are remote places. These are the mounds. That's another thing. If you haven't been in the mounds, like I'm going to say, I went back and I watched because I didn't know who this kid was, this Coda runs kid. I didn't, you mentioned them. I'm like, okay, I don't even know who it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It doesn't sound like a great idea to go from couch to Kocodona. So I went and watched some of his videos in between our retakes, you know, for the first one and this. And he seems like a nice, great kid, great guy. I love that he's dreaming big. And it's amazing. And he's, it feels like he's working what he, what he would call hard more than he's ever done, right? And he's trying to do, you know, two. miles, sometimes three miles, four miles. It's awesome. I love it. I love your attitude. I saw he was on a
Starting point is 00:16:15 podcast talking about his journey. That is amazing. I want to celebrate that. I just want him to be successful. Okay? That's it. I want Roddy to be successful. I want everybody with these big dreams to be successful. So all I can share is what I've learned. And maybe, and I don't know everything, but maybe what I've learned could help others be successful. That's it. I want everyone to win. Don't take this personal, I care about, I see you, and I'm like, this is awesome. I love the changes you're making. I care. Yeah. I don't want you to be stuck out there in the f***ing mountains for hours, wondering, how did I get here and why am I doing this? Yeah. Um, you know, and to be fair to him, his response was, you know, I got a little extra fuel. And so he took what I said and he was like,
Starting point is 00:17:03 you know, I'm going to put a little chip on my shoulder and work hard and that's great. I'll be that guy. I saw you're making a, I'm not a runner's shirts. Send me one. I want one. I will wear it. I'll wear the fuck out of that. So you got to buy it. Yeah. I'll buy it. Okay, I'll buy it. Yeah. I'll support the cause. But it's, and that's, it's awesome. I mean, I lean into hate all the time. Hate is, you know, you might say, oh, you're doing an amazing job. I love you. Cam, you're incredible. I don't give a fuck. But somebody who says, hey, you're a douchebag. I'm like, I'm going to remember that forever. Yeah. Yeah. What is, what's your quote about hate and love? It's like, Your love makes me strong. Your hate makes me unstoppable. God, I love that. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It's like hate works. So if Coda, I don't know what his name is, but if Coda is, that's fuel for him, awesome. Yeah. Trust me, Coda, we believe in you. We want you to be successful. I was just talking about ultras in general. I didn't know who you were. I went and looked who you were.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I do think it's a lot to ask of any human, of your body. of any person in this situation to go from never having done a race, even though I saw you did a race, okay, so you did an 8K, it looks like, to never having done an ultra or even a marathon to go to Kocodona when it's over, you know, it's 30,000-some feet of gain, 250-some miles, remote mountains, which mountains, if you haven't been in them, are subjected to intense weather, storms, lightning, cold, hypothermic,
Starting point is 00:18:39 heat. Usually it's super hot down there. This year was super cold. It's a lot. Yeah. There's a lot of challenges. It's more than just covering distance on a street on a sidewalk. Yeah, it's a lot different. You know, and I would say, I get it, but also there's, you know, there's this guy, Jack, Jack lifts, I think, or something like that on Instagram. But he's basically been like acting like a lifting influencer for the last three years hasn't changed at all. Literally his physical. Zeeke has not changed. So it's just rage bait, right? And so I don't think that's what's happening, but, you know, you have to question
Starting point is 00:19:17 everything. And if it is just for clicks, which I don't think it is in this case. But if it was, it's like, you know, don't do that. And also, here's another thing with social media. If you put yourself out there, you're putting yourself out there. Yeah. Okay. It's anything that goes because some people aren't going to be as nice as us.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Some people might say hurtful words to you. Yeah. Based on, I don't know, who knows what, what they went through in life, they're having a bad day, we're not being hurtful at all. But when you put yourself out there, you got take it all, baby, the good and the bad. All right? That's for sure. Yeah. All of it.
Starting point is 00:20:01 So you didn't have to make a page. No. He didn't have to say, I'm going couch to Kokadonna, watch me follow. Didn't have to do that. When you do that, you're inviting all levels of criticism and support. Yeah. I mean, here's a great example. I said I was going to go out there and do 50 miles and I was going to stay on that track until I finish it and I did not.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And I got hate for that. Yeah, you did. And it's what I know I failed. I don't give a what people say because I know deep down. It's like I failed. I got to live with that. Yeah. And it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Take it on the chin and move on. You know, so. That's part of it. It's, you know, I will, I want to say, this too um i don't i love people this is i'm just going to transition off of coda runs and you know hey we're on your team yeah want you to be successful i want you to be safe i want you to i want you to i want you to do this for a long time exactly yeah so not it's not just a one year thing it's if my goal was to do having never done an ultra to do coca dona in one year i would have failed
Starting point is 00:21:05 yeah that's all there's to it i i didn't have what it it takes a long time to train your body and your mind to do that right and if he does fail after a year uh keep going don't take that failure and say well i got to quit you know that doesn't one year doesn't mean anything exactly dude i've been i've been doing this shit you know i've been wanting to be a writer for 40 years you know i'm and i don't know if i've even made it but i do want to talk about that just in general guys and i'm not i'm transitioning off a kota guys some guys me included are delusional. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Delusion. I mean, we know the guys, and you can talk to talk about me too, but we know the guys who sit and watch the UFC and know, like, whoa, idiot.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I would have done hammer fists on him. It's just like, wait, you're sitting in your chair with fucking Cheetos in your belly button. It's like, what would you have done again? Yeah. I mean, and like if you got Cheetos in your belly, I don't, you know, I don't have a super deep belly button, but if you got a belly button where there's shit in there where you like need a shop vac to get it, you should probably shut the fuck on the UFC talk.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I mean, but guys do that, right? Yeah. And I don't know. Do girls like stuff in belly buns? Maybe they eat grapes and Cheetos. I remember this one time when I was five. My babysitter's daughter, who is also five. Is this one that blessed you?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Because that one, you said... That was my mom's boyfriend's daughter. Which boyfriend? Because that doesn't narrow it down. Anyway. Yeah, anyways, my babysitter's daughter, who was the same age, we were great friends. We grew up together, but she had a super deep belly button. And I remember one time we were getting in the pool and I had sunscreen on my finger.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I swear that thing did... green. It didn't end. Really? I was so deep. Yeah. I mean, do people, maybe people lick like, like clean belly buttons and like that's a cool thing to do?
Starting point is 00:23:26 I don't know. I don't, personally, I don't want to speak for everybody. I'm not into like super deep belly bodies for, I mean, I don't know. That could be me. Yeah. Anyways, I just, that reminded me of that time of my life. All right. Well, good.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Thanks. Yeah, so, and guys who watched Tom Brady, you know, he threw it into triple coverage. What a fucking idiot. Didn't he read the hot route? It's like, who the fuck's talking? Is this you who got cut from fucking JV? Is this, was that you who said that? That's Uncle Rico.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, right. So see that mountain note? I could throw the football. I know what happens. Guys talk out their ass. And if there's girls around, it's fucking even worse. All right. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Playing the NBA. So you could really, you think you could, you could score on LeBron? Yeah. In the city league, guys, it's fucking raining them. You know, I mean, that's what guys do. Okay. Yeah. It's like there was a group of guys that were saying that, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:35 streetballers and they got the worst player in the NBA to play against him. And he dropped like 40. Yeah. It's like there are levels to this, you know? There's levels to everything. Yes. But if you're the guy who on Thanksgiving goes out to throw the football around and you blow out your Achilles, maybe just shut the fuck out. So anyway, people talk out their ass, which brings me to another point, not people, guys. I don't know about, I can only speak about guys.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, I don't think girls do it as bad. I have talked out my ass a lot. So that's why I know it happens. Every episode of shit talkers, I do. Well, no, you just think about, okay, delusion. Element was created by former research biochemist Rob Wolf and has enough sodium, potassium, and magnesium to move the needle. And get you feeling and performing your best. Plus, it has zero sugar, artificial colors, or other dodgy ingredients to derail your low-carb lifestyle. That's why Element is my go-to electrolyte drink and trusted by many of the world's leading health experts and athletes, including Team U.S. USA weightlifting, coaches, health practitioners, and teams across professional collegiate
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Starting point is 00:26:41 engineers are all avid hunters themselves, so they take their bows in the field every year with the intent to make them stronger, faster, and more accurate. Hoyt is actually my lifetime bow sponsor. Yes, I signed a lifetime contract with them. That is how much I believe in them. Hoyt is offering listeners of the podcast 20% off on all soft good items at hoit.com using code C-A-M. That's Cam. I came from this fucking little tiny, tiny, town of nothing, right? Okay, tiny 24, 28. I still can't remember. I need to go back to my yearbooking count, actually, how many people were graduated, but either 24 or 28, right? There's like, whatever. So I said, I didn't want to go to college, but I want to be an outdoor,
Starting point is 00:27:29 a famous outdoor writer. What, do you think that sounds realistic for where I grew up? Where I grew up, either you set chokers, like, in the woods, you know, or maybe you're a timber fall or if you worked your way up. Or you worked at warehouses over here. You worked in the mill and you pulled green chain. Or you worked at a warehouse like I did. Yeah. Part time crushing boxes, right? Okay, making cardboard bales of boxes to recycle. But I said I want to be an outdoor writer.
Starting point is 00:28:03 So those basically couldn't be further apart. Right. For being realistic. I was delusional. All right. sometimes that's what it takes. Forty years later, look, I've had a couple of decent books.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah. So it happened. Right. I made it happen. You can have these crazy dreams and make it happen. Now, did you have anything to add on that? Yeah, I mean, just my own experience of, not that I've made it anywhere, but my dad sent me an email at one point
Starting point is 00:28:33 when I decided to drop out of college and I was like, I'm going to take photos for a living, which sounds retarded. Yeah. sent me an email nice well it's official then yeah basically saying you know at a certain point you know men got to give up their dreams and go to work go to work yeah and uh you know for a lot of years i had that printed out and had it on my desk or above my desk or whatever and i'd look at that and be like you'll see and exactly it sometimes that's what it takes and uh you're proud of me now
Starting point is 00:29:04 dad don't start crying papa Yeah, no. It's, so yeah, you can be, have these crazy dreams and you can make it happen through years and sacrifice and hard work and overcoming and proving people wrong, proving yourself wrong, grinding, grinding, grinding, and finally getting a break. Then finally, if you've worked hard enough and you can take advantage of it, your talent is there, and people are actually realizing it and you're being, you're being celebrated for it. It can fucking happen. I see people talk about your photos all the time on my page and how good they are. Just the photos I put up today said something like, you know, incredible work or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So you did it. Right. You made it, right? You know, despite what your dad said. Until I get replaced by this. Yeah. Yeah. We do have a job opening, which we were looking to replace James.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah. Because I've been talking to his dad about some stuff. You've been talking to my dad. But so, yeah, it doesn't matter what anybody says. What we say means fucking nothing. Yeah. If what James's dad said didn't mean. anything, what impact are we going to have?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Right. If we can like squelch your dreams, they weren't real anyway. Yeah. Okay. If all it takes is a few people saying, ah, I don't know, it sounds a good idea. If that's all it takes, you should thank us. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And talk is cheap. So on both sides. Yeah. And here's one thing I do, I do, when you said that about your dad and print out of that email, I do also when we have these big dreams or maybe we're just doing what we do and we get criticized. I have, there's an article came out. I think it's Peterson's bow hunting. The writer took a shot at me, right?
Starting point is 00:30:51 I have that article. Yeah, talk your shit. Yeah. And I'm not going to say his name, but I'm never forgetting, forget what dumb fuck was who said it. Yep. And I'll never forget what he said. So just. know. And that's fine. Hey, I said, you put yourself out there, you can be criticized. I'm fine with
Starting point is 00:31:14 being criticized. But what I'm going to say now, this is like maybe a different topic. Maybe you had set up. You don't have to like me. You don't have to like my family. You don't have to like my friends. But just know, if you talk shit about me, about Truitt, Tanner, Taryn, Tracy, James, Roy, anybody who's in my friend group. Right. We're not cool. Yeah. We're not cool.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Yeah. You can do it. Say whatever you want. You are not going to sit at, you're not going to be part of this cool little table here. Yeah. You're not. It's like, I put this on Truitt's, he made a post yesterday. And my caption was, if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That's kind of hard. We want to. crush you. Yeah. If you're on the team, we're all together. Right. It's all love, baby. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You can say whatever you want, and it's fine. And I'm not going to, I'm not going to block you, but I'm not going to follow you. I don't give a fuck what you do. I don't care what you say. You're not in the club. You're not in the click. You can't just talk shit about my family. How are you going to hate from outside the club?
Starting point is 00:32:30 You can't even get in. You can't get in, bitch. All you can do is watch. Yeah. So you can watch. You can talk your shit. You can watch. You're just.
Starting point is 00:32:38 not in the club. Yeah. It's all good. Do your thing. I want you to, hey, if that gets you what you needed to do, or maybe, you know, you shit on something I did or somebody in, you know, my circle did, and that makes you feel better and that fuels you, great. Fine. If that's what it takes and you achieved your goals, awesome. I don't want you to fail. You're just not part of this thing. Yeah. I think Sam Seulik had a great kind of response to this, which was, you know, you get hate comments or whatever it is. you can separate the hate from the critique, you know, dismiss the hate that's pointless. You're not going to listen to that, but you can't listen to the critique. And I often do, but, you know, with like Truitt's thing is people were hating on downhill course.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Well, yeah, he hears that critique, but he's going to prove you wrong. Yeah. You know what I mean? If it's valid, it's valid, whatever. It's just, it's how he responds now. Exactly. And he's going to. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So it is what it is. Just be ready. Yeah. And same energy you had to do. dismiss him breaking 2.30, make sure you got that same energy when he f-kne beats what he just got on a flat course. Maybe in New York. I mean, I don't think he'll beat 225-41 at New York, but I think he'll break 230. Yeah. And then what are you going to say? Yeah, and then what? Is that you're going to make sense? That's the actual uphill. That's bridges.
Starting point is 00:34:00 So the thing with Trude is like, and if he doesn't, he will. He will the next time. And if he doesn't, he will in the next time. This is not, like I mentioned in Dakota, this is not like a short-term thing. Yeah. Truitt's goals might take years. His pull-up goals took years. Exactly. Anything I've ever done that I wanted to do, I wanted to hunt all of September.
Starting point is 00:34:23 That was my dream, almost all my whole bow hunting life. So I couldn't do it until 2010. So 2010, I'd been bow hunting for over 20 years. So it took me 20 years to be able to hunt all of September. How's that for an investment? And now I've hunted all of September for 15 years and maximized every fucking hunt. Right. Because I'd waited and worked and prepared for two decades.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And I took advantage. Sometimes it's a long game. So yeah, you can shit on his marathon. You can shit on his next marathon or the one after that. But eventually he's going to get his shit done. and then what? You know, then what?
Starting point is 00:35:11 They'll find something else to say. You know, in Sam's example, he said, someone comments, your audio sucks, you should quit YouTube forever. You know,
Starting point is 00:35:19 he's not going to quit YouTube forever, but he might say, oh, you know what? I actually don't know that much about audio. I'll look into that. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:24 maybe I need to ramp up that game. And to me, that's kind of the difference. That's healthy. That's how you respond. Yeah. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Because there is, there is truth and what a lot people say all I know is that if you're just going to talk so I love blocking people on my page I fucking love blocking dipshits I love like there's one yesterday I went and picked up those guns you know because I'm taking deer hunters and all that like I do every year and so and somebody like commented uh sim oh figured you'd be simp and for sig I'm like that's what you want to go out on so now you're never invited to our little party you're going to go to our little party you're going to
Starting point is 00:36:06 go out on what fucking difference does it make. Sig makes good guns, good optics, good, whatever. It's like, that rifle is fucking killer. I got two 45 caliber pistols, killer. It's like, what are you mad at that I got them?
Starting point is 00:36:22 What are you what? What is this comment about? All I know is that okay, if you're that fucking dumb that that's all you have to offer, I don't need you on my page ever. Because if that's, that's your game, if that's what, you bring to the table. I don't need that shit. That's nothing. That doesn't help anything. So guess what?
Starting point is 00:36:43 You're gone. Go do your shit wherever you do it. Yeah. It's not going to be here. But you want to go out with a retarded comment like that about, I don't know. I was like, God, they make great optics. Every gun I've had, I know they had their issues for a while on some other shit, but I never knew about it. The shit I have is like top quality. Yeah. I mean, I watch you and K.J. shoot last year with and it's like great guns. Yeah. So I just don't get shit like that. But all I know is that you can say it. I don't, I don't get it. But you're just not invited to the party anymore. They have a right to say it and you have a right to not invite them. Yeah. And I love blocking people. And then these same fucking people got to get, oh, I'm going to send an email. You blocked me because
Starting point is 00:37:29 blah, blah. And it's like, shut the fuck up. Just get out of here. Go do your fucking whatever you do with your life. and leave me alone. Yeah. You dug your grave. Yeah. Well, on the same kind of topic as talk is cheap, someone whose talk wasn't cheap,
Starting point is 00:37:44 we talked about him in the, well, I got to think, one of the last ones, Clybina. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:37:53 I said he was jacked, you said. That doesn't mean shit. Well, he had a- It doesn't hurt. No, yeah. I don't think it has hurt
Starting point is 00:38:00 his cause in gaining followers, but quickly. But, yeah, he ran, 12-hour race and ran 76 miles. Yeah, I like that because there's a lot. I mean, Austin is full of guys like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Which is good, but they're all jacked and can't run or shit. Yeah. So I didn't know if he was like that. That's why I say it's like, and I've seen plenty of guys jacked as hell that aren't good endurance runners. Yeah. It's like two totally different disciplines. In his case, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:38:32 You said he was jacked. I'm like, well, that, you know, I've seen a lot of jack guys struggle on races. And that's so it actually doesn't mean anything as far as running goes. But in his case, he won his 12-hour race. I think he set a course record. Is that what you told me? So he's jacked and can run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:48 All right. And that needs to be celebrated. Great job. What's his name? Clyde Bina. I started following him. Just because I like what he's about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And he, you know, he showed out, showed up and fucking got it done and got the win. Yeah. I know he's got a 100 mile race in two weeks. So we'll see you there too. But, you know, he's only got 24 miles after that 76. I think he'll get it done. We'll just see in what kind of time. Yeah, I think he'll, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:16 If he can do 76 and 12 hours, that's a good effort. Yeah, yeah, it is. That's a good effort. So other things we got to talk about. We mentioned this in the last one, obviously, but Cheeto getting robbed. Yeah, that was. you know he had the harder shots uh more damage he delivered more damage uh you know maybe maybe he got outstruck i i can't remember the numbers but i think if you're being objective you would have
Starting point is 00:39:48 gave him two of the three rounds pretty i mean i think pretty fairly and he should have got the the win 29 28 and it was 29 28 split the other guy i think it was a poor decision i think chito I felt like other than one round, he was in control about the whole time. Yeah, tough loss. It seems like most people thought he won that fight, but whatever, he can't change it. It's a, the fight game is brutal. Yeah, it is. Well, ad break.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Is this real? Yeah, I have to do this. Otherwise, I'll get fired. Well, you are getting fired. Oh, I know. But so at least I'll go out. Yeah. Oh, boy, here we go.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Are we? 16. 16. Okay. Hello, folks. All right. Well, we mentioned we're doing like 125,000 in giveaways, but I wanted to mention that we're giving away the Kawasaki. And we're not?
Starting point is 00:40:50 I don't want to. Oh. Yeah. Too nice. And with that, a New Mexico public land hunt, which. The same winner gets both that shit? Yeah. that's a good prize.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I mean, yeah, you give away both separately and you win the Kawasaki, but you have to bring it to New Mexico to help the guy who won that. Yeah. So the same winner for both. But here's what I made a post about this, about all the stuff for giving away. Here's what, maybe I'm not that great at business, but I don't give a fuck if you buy anything. Yeah. I'm just going to give all this shit away, whether no,
Starting point is 00:41:32 Nobody makes an order. I'll figure out. Well, you can do a free entry, I think. I think, because I went, just before I put that, I'm like, I want to make sure. I know I said we need to have free entries. And I think that's part of like the vehicles thing. But I wouldn't check. Yeah. Free entries, you can write in. You can do whatever, submit your email. Did you enter for free? Yeah, exactly. But I don't, point is, I don't care what you buy. I don't care if you buy anything. I'm going to give this shit away. I love giving away. The guy who won that Raptor right there, bought two things and he said he just got his wooby jacket that he ordered i'm like well shit you almost got the truck before he got the jacket and the jacket is how i think one of the reasons he
Starting point is 00:42:11 won because he ordered the jacket maybe a shirt or something so he only ordered two things and won 10 000 of cash and and that like sick raptor that's all loaded it's a real lottery i don't yeah i don't And sales, I'm not, I don't care about sales. I do not care. I like making cool stuff. I like having cool. This is just one of my hats. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah. I like having cool merge. It's just what I wear every day. And so if I like it, I thought maybe you would like it. But if you want to buy cool stuff, great. If you don't, great. I'm giving the shit away either way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:48 You know, and then we're also doing that dream hunt giveaway in Utah. But that comes with a full state cook gear kit. and your a sig-simp. You're simping for Sig-Kit. Oh, what? You get like, the Binoes? Yeah. I thought you're pointing to my Rolex, which I don't have a lot.
Starting point is 00:43:05 You know, I need to give, that was another one. Somebody said, because I wore it for that, cut the fuck out of my arm, actually, too, with that on the other day. But that would be fun to give away Rolex. We should, this, these are pretty sick. I got sent this. They're called artifact watches, but they're, like, automatic. They've got a, you know, it's self-driven.
Starting point is 00:43:25 There's no battery or anything. It's a nice watch. Kind of different looking, but yeah. How much are they? They're like 1,500 bucks. The guy sent it to me. Holy shit. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I was like, really? So you're, that's conflict of interest. That's worse now. So now, yeah, this is actually mine and actually you're gone now. No, just kidding. No, it's, but it's not a Rolex. No. It would, like, just for like, shock value.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Oh. I want to buy, that's what I want to do. At some point, we're giving away a Rolex. That would be sick. Because I never had one of my whole life till like, I mean, I'm old as hell. Finally, I didn't care about watches, but it's kind of cool having a nice watch. I still think the trucks are great, but at some point we got to give away like a Porsche. Imagine shooting an arrow through a Porsche window.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah, and like that, I mean, that Fox truck was 200 grand. Yeah, I know. How much is a Porsche? It costs the same. Okay. So comment below. Smash out like it. No. Anyway, let us know, guys, would you want to win a Porsche or like a, well, that GMC truck? Which one? You tell me. Yeah. Tell us. Because I don't give a fuck. I'll buy it and give it away. Yeah. I'm not, like I said, I just like giving. If a car will be cooler for some people or get people jacked up to win. Let's do that. Yeah. Okay. Back from. I'm at break. We're live. Nice. This is one that is also controversial, and we're not going to be too hateful.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's with love. I'm just going to mention a name and get your reaction. So yeah, take some deep breaths. Go try. Let me see. First thought that comes to mind when you say this name, I'm going to just board it out. Paul Johnson. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Why did you do that? This is really testing me. It's all love. Yes, with all love. so I'm just going to talk in generalities okay okay yeah I'm all for going for history okay if you're going to go for history so when I think of this I think of like when Ned Brockman there's a I wish I could think of his name old Greek runner from the eight from the 80s I think but his record still stands a thousand miles and 10 days I think 10 days and 8 hours to
Starting point is 00:46:02 cover a thousand miles. That's like been a record since the 80s. Ned Brockman went after that record. He prepared and I mean laid it all out on the line. His body was wrecked. He gave it everything he had. He was on pace to start. But then of course, this is one of the hardest endurance records in history to break. Right. So eventually he started to fade a little bit, was getting banged up, hurt everything was going wrong but he still finished it in like 12 days okay to me that's a valiant effort that's respecting what the record stands for that's respecting history that's giving all you had to prepare before during the event and just laying it all out there right that's what that's how you go after records yep when i think of Courtney going after the record on the colorado trail
Starting point is 00:46:55 she ended up in er okay that is honoring the record the way that's giving everything you got. If you're saying you're going to go after a record, say, just hypothetically, 700 miles and seven days on a treadmill. Hypothetically. Hypothetically. If that's, that what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:47:15 I want to see you on that first day being dialed in best shape of your life, right? And I'm not, I can't look at somebody and see if they're in shape. I mean, you can a little bit. like just just um it's a good starting point yeah in general in general yeah i want to see you the best you've ever been okay let's just go back when he said he's going to run across america break the record which is another very established hard fought record 40 some days across
Starting point is 00:47:50 america 3 500 miles whatever it is and when he went for that day four he was done he said yep record's gone i think we'll just turn this into a charity which is okay. Charity, charity and breaking records are two different things. Well, I have something to say about that.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Okay. Because people will say, well, he's raising money for charity, you know, what have you done? Which is great. But don't you think
Starting point is 00:48:13 if the original intent was to break a record or give your all to a record to also support a charity that you owe it to the donors and that charity to lay it all in the line? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 You know, to give a valiant effort. I think you do. I think you do because, There's going to be other people that want to do this too. And maybe they want to go off to record and get sponsors and maybe it's more realistic.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And it sets the level of human performance on what's possible. So that takes money, that takes sponsors, that takes selling yourself essentially. So how are you selling yourself? Oh, I'm going after this. I'm going to break this record. If the record, so it's 40-some days, I think 42 days is a record across the United States.
Starting point is 00:49:00 on day four, you're 10% of the way there. Yeah. And you're done. So it'd be like, I'm going to run this marathon. I'm going to break the world record running this marathon. And after two miles, you're done. It's like, well, why are you done already? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Well, that's what happened. So he said, he's going to break the record running across America four days. He said, no, now it's just a charity thing. It's just like, okay, well, I don't know what the sponsors thought. But it was the same thing for this, which I don't, charities are great. And his cause is awesome. And I'm celebrating he's a veteran. I'm very appreciative of his sacrifice and helping.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I think this one was for mental health maybe at PTSD. I'm not sure. But that is amazing. And I love it. And I want to celebrate that. And I want to, I want that to be successful. But I think that doing what he's doing is actually detrimental to other people's future attempts at all records for charity.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Because it's going to put a bad taste in the donor's mouths. It's like, oh, this is just another guy who's going to give up. It's a stunt. Yeah, this isn't real. I'm not going to donate. Well, if I think, so if you say, so hypothetically, if your goal is to run 100 miles a day for seven days in a row on a treadmill, first of all, in training, you should be doing
Starting point is 00:50:24 multiple 100 mile days getting ready. I don't know if you did or not. but on the first day, again, you should show up in the best shape of your life. That first day, that 100, first 100 should have been, but gravy. Yeah. Gravy. I got to do this six more times. But if the first day you get half of the 100 or around half, so your first day,
Starting point is 00:50:52 there's no chance, how real was this? Was this a stunt? What is this about? So now people saying, I'm going to break this record, could I get some sponsors? The sponsors are going to be like, God, is this another one of these things? Where it's not, this isn't real?
Starting point is 00:51:11 Because charity and going after records, they can be the same, but they're also different. Yeah. And, you know, he had mentioned, or people had mentioned that he had a family emergency. And I hope that that is real. And if it is, that's terrible.
Starting point is 00:51:23 But also, when he figured out that he wasn't going to break the record, he hardly looked distraught. When Ned Brockman was like, I'm losing, he was giving everything he had to stay on pace. Yeah, I didn't respect that. And it crushed him that he wasn't going to. Yeah. You know, it's like that to me shows, oh, your whole heart really was in this. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So. Yeah, I can't, I can't judge, you know, people react differently to things. You say he wasn't distraught. I don't know. Yeah. Some people could just have on the poker face and that's fine. I just want to, I want to see a legit, if you're saying that, that makes me excited. Like 700 miles and seven days.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I mean, that woman recently, again, I don't know names. I wish I could remember them. But she did 600 miles on six days for the women's record. She just broke that record. That was, everybody's talking about it because that's fucking history. Well, when Paul says, I want to do 700 miles on seven days, yeah, it's not a treadmust. It's a little different. But that is, you got my attention.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And then to see like the first, I'm like, what the fuck was this? What do you mean? It's over. Or there's no way. So a day in. Was it ever real? Yeah. Anyway, it's just whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I don't know what happened. I don't want, you know, I'm, again, I want to celebrate amazing performances. And I don't, if, you know, there's a family emergency that's, I mean, we can ignore all this BS, I guess, that we're talking about because I don't, I don't know. But if that, that happened, it's awful. If that weighed into his performance, and okay, then I'm wrong. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Well, speaking of incredible performances, we can celebrate. You like that transition? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Biggs Backyard Ultra. See. Well, on that other note, last night I watched the finisher finally,
Starting point is 00:53:15 first Jasmine Paris, first woman to ever finish Barclay. Oh. Yeah. Epic. Yeah. She is such a beast. But anyway, yeah, Biggs. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:25 So when we recorded this the last time, we were like, oh, that's wild. What I didn't know is that Phil Gore, who he ran 114 yards laps, 475 miles, his final lap, 37 minutes. So crushing it. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's like, you know, it's a little over four miles.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So that's like an eight-minute mile. After not sleeping for four and a half days and running almost 500 miles, he can lay down an eight minute mile. And he looked good. For people who don't know, it's 4.1 miles every hour. So if that, if you're doing 10 minute miles, you're going to get in like a 45 minutes. You have 15 minutes to eat, get off your feet, get some salt in, do whatever, get ready for the next lap. You have to, on the top of the hour, you have to show up on the star line. And you have to be done within that hour and on the start line again for the next hour. So that's how you determine less man standing. Some people go, they might do 20 miles or out. They might do 100 miles.
Starting point is 00:54:22 are out. Finally, you get down, this is the world championships, I think. So you get down to where there's a couple guys and it's just who can show up on that start line and finish it within an hour. That's the last man standing. When the other guy can't, he rings the bell, throws him the towel, can't do it, can't make a back, can't make a start line. Whatever the case, last man standing. So you need at least two super strong runners, crazy endurance, to get a huge number like 475, right? I know Harvey Lewis was in it. I know. some other freaks were in it. But this Phil Gore, this performance,
Starting point is 00:54:57 four and a half days of really no sleep, and then to lay it down like that and look fresh, that gets me excited. That's the efforts I love to see and celebrate, and that's what inspires me. I love it. My question was, could it be considered maybe one of the best performances in endurance?
Starting point is 00:55:19 I mean, to look that fresh and do 37 minutes on the first, final lap at 475 miles. I mean, it would be up there with the fastest time across the country and that thousand miles on 10 days. Yeah. So to me, those now we're, that's the category that gets me like amazed at what humans can do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Jasmine Paris, as I said, the first woman to ever finish Barclay, watched it last night. She came in, I think, with two seconds. So you got 60 hours. I think it was 59 hours. God, 50. Oh, maybe it's 59 hours, 58 minutes. But anyway, whatever. One minute, two minutes, 90 seconds.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I don't know what it was. But laid it all out on the line, first woman. And, you know, Laz, who is a race director up until this year, he said famously, a woman will never be able to do this. They're not tough enough. And he was right for a long time until last year. Well, there's a great example of you could take that and have your feelings hurt. That's a hate comment.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah. And he wanted to challenge women. Yeah. Sometimes that's what it takes. Right. He said, you're not tough enough. This is corny when and ran it. This is, you know, Emil Boone went and ran it.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Jasmine Parris did it three times. She did three laps, four laps. A complete, Barclay is five laps. And then it took her the third year to do it. And she's like in Scotland or something thing, running to the mud with her dog over and over and over, up and down hills. Just a, freak. He said a woman is not tough enough. A woman will never do it. She did it. She proved him wrong. And he loved it. Yeah. That's what it takes. That's what we want to see. We want to see people who,
Starting point is 00:57:04 yeah, oh, you said a mean word to me. I'm done. I'm pouting. No, shut the fuck up. Step up. Let's see it. Prove everyone wrong. Yeah, definitely. If words can stop you, it was never that important. What's the classic adage? Words. Sticks and stones might break my bones, but words will never hurt me. I haven't heard that since.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah. The playground? Since my third year in the first grade. I haven't heard that since I was a little girl. Since I fill off my dinosaur. Oh, yeah. How is it transition? Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah. That's cool. This one's been pretty good. We've been pretty. This one's been dialed. It's not, has it been funny, though? It was good.
Starting point is 00:57:51 It was funny in the beginning. Okay. All right. Because people like, for some reason, we put these out and I'm just, normally I'm just like, wow, that was retarded. A hot flaming pile of shit.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah. And then people are like, that was hilarious. I'm like, what? Anyway, I'm always surprised. You're a funny guy.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Tell a joke. Make me laugh, clown. Yeah. Well, last thing on my list was the government. mid shutdown. Good. Fucking, let's just get rid
Starting point is 00:58:20 of all of them. Dude. God. I don't give a fuck about the government. No. God, I'm so sick of politics. I will say that my previous statements
Starting point is 00:58:30 about a certain nationality that I wouldn't recognize patterns with or anything has gotten my DMs filled with so many people sending me shit. Like memes?
Starting point is 00:58:42 Oh, I don't even know. Because I said about, like, Israel. Oh. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I'm not the only one.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Oh, yeah. I don't know. I mean, I can't keep track of, I don't even know. I mean, I'm so sick of politics. And then, oh, God. So I went pretty hard at Mike Lee back when they were going to sell public land. Then I was gone hunting. And then there's people like, I don't even, they turned it into like, I was beholden to
Starting point is 00:59:16 somebody so I wouldn't say anything about like, oh, he won't comment on this now because they had some weird, like, no, I was hunting. I'm not, I don't know what the fuck is going on. I don't know what's going on with all this shit, this land sale, or not the land sales, I don't even know what it was. I wasn't up to speed on it. So I'm not, I can't comment and share stuff unless I know it. Finally, I got done in like the other day or day before last. I finally saw a field and stream thing or outdoor life. And I'm like, oh, okay. I shared that. And I'm like, yeah, you know, as long as Mike Lee's in office, he's going to keep trying to do this shit. So, but it wasn't, I don't, I'm not beholding to anybody.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I don't give a fuck about any of them, all right? So you can turn it into some weird thing, but you're a fucking clueless. You don't even, you don't know shit. Those are the same people making comments about you simping for Sig. Yeah, just idiots. So, you know, only use your influence when it benefits them, which it is a great thing to use it for. but also it's like you want to talk shit and then you know it's like what yeah what are you expecting I mean what do you think this is going to lead to but for me it's um yeah I don't know I mean here
Starting point is 01:00:30 here's what it is it's like I did that thing the first time you know the not one acre all that I wrote a check for $20,000 sent to the Dider Roosevelt Conservation Program these people what the fuck have you done? Have you sent $2 anywhere? So I sent a check. It was great. It was, you know, we sold the T-shirts. You guys helped out. It was like I just took all the money and just gave it. And it's just like, yeah, that was, that's just what I, all I had to give. And I did it. I put my money where my mouth is. And you're still, now you still come back and say, oh, he won't do. It's like, did you forget what I did? It's like, it doesn't matter. You could write a check for two. million. The next day, people would be like, well, is that all you're going to do? It's like,
Starting point is 01:01:20 what? Do I have to send $20,000 every fucking day and make sure everybody knows about it? It's like, when does this, I, you know, when I'm gone hunting, can somebody else take over? Can you, can you cover for me? Yeah. Can you guys do something for yourself? Can you, or you just bitch? You just bitch to me like, oh, you should be doing this. You should be doing that. It's like, what the fuck are you doing? No. Oh, I, well, I took some soup in for the fucking canned food drive. Oh. And actually, that's great.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It is good. But whatever. I'm not, that sounded like I was judging like that wasn't enough. That is enough. I'm not trying to judge. It's just like, I'm kind of getting worked up here. So maybe we need to. I hope we don't have to do shick talkers again.
Starting point is 01:02:06 But anyway, it's like the point I want to make is you can do, you can try to save the world one day. and the next day you didn't do enough and you never do enough and you'll never make some people happy. So my point is, and this goes back to all, I mean, you could talk about everything. I take up personal because this is what I do, but all I did was hunt public land for 25 years. That's all I had the option to. And then I had an option of like, you know, I could go to some of these great places. Then people are like, well, you can never hunt public land anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I'm like, well, I hunt public land every year. You just are ignoring those hunts. But it's just like, well, I did that. And I can still do that. I do that all the time. But it's just like, so you can just change your rules. It's like before it was like, that was cool. And then this is a dream you want to work towards.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And you work towards that dream. And it's just like, well, you never do this. It's like, point is you're always judged. You're always judged. You could go to the best place, kill the biggest bull. It wasn't on public land. Oh, okay. So I'll go back to a kill on public land. It's just like, it wasn't 400. It's just like, okay, my God. What. So what I've learned over the years is I don't give a fuck what people, it's not going to, I listen. It's not going to impact anything because I just know it's never enough. Yeah. What you do, you could have all the success in the world, public, private, big, small, send money in, do this, you know, fight for this. You know, fight for this. fight for that, fight for this candidate.
Starting point is 01:03:44 It's never enough. You will never do enough for some people. So fuck them. Exactly. That's the moral to the story. Fuck everyone. Do what you think is right in your heart and fuck everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:57 That is, that is, it's all love. That covers everything we talked about. Fuck everybody. Do what you think is right. And do it for yourself. And you know what's right. We know what's right or wrong.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah. So if I know in my heart, what I did was right. And this person wants to criticize it. that's why I'm good with it. I'm like, yeah. Bring it on. Let's go. Let's go. It's cool. Yeah. And feed them beans is what I say. Macy has a lot of cleaning up at the very end. Yeah. Not too much. A couple. But Macy, James, nobody.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah. Everybody over here. Live audience. It's all love. It is all love. It is all love. Yeah. It is that Cheetos in your belly. And I'll come and lick it out and put my sunscreen finger in it. Oh, that's sunscreen, but it could get you pregnant. I think I'm pregnant. Maybe not in your belly.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I don't know. I don't know how it works. I don't either. I don't know how. I haven't read all the fine print. The manufacturer's book. Yeah, I just usually get to like step one. Insert.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Okay. And then that's it. Yeah, exactly. Game over. Yeah, I did say last time, I'll say this again. Because I got to, if I'm going to talk shit about people putting themselves out there, I have to put myself out there. But I'm going to do the Teton picnic next year. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:38 We got, this one got canceled before. So let's describe it again. So it's starting Jackson, you bike 23 miles to Jenny Lake, swim a mile, 1.3 miles across Jenny Lake, which is like 50 degree water. So you got to have a wetsuit. Then Summit the Grand, it's 10 miles. 7,000 feet of vert and then all back again on your way back to town. But that's next year because you can only do it like July, August.
Starting point is 01:06:01 So I got some time to train. If you had any balls, you'd do it in January. You get ice skate across the lake. I don't think it ever freezes. Yeah, and also getting up to the top of Teton. He ate up to skin up there and then climb. It would be heinous. And do it twice.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Yeah. So anyways, that'll be fun. You guys can hate on that as I fail. no that's if nothing else you'll fail in pretty country yeah and drown sink yeah but it'll be a good way to go good beautiful spot to have your last rights yeah exactly about that yeah and uh you know what's i was gonna try and make some joke but god i got nothing yeah no i think we we blew our load on all our jokes already yeah we blew our load all the belly button The kitty pool.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I didn't know the belly button is going to get so much talk today. But that's just what I think of when I think of like some big fat criticizing everybody. We can't say fat. But, you know, yeah, exactly. And they got in Cheetos and a piece of pepperoni and maybe a button and a thimble and some thread in there. And just like all the shit is in this belly button. And it's like, I don't know, because that's what I say. I don't know if women like big belly butts.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I can't speak. I don't know how that works. Maybe they're into that. You know how like the dad bods? Listen, I got a small dick, but a big belly button. Maybe that's enough. Maybe that's enough for some people. I can't speak to that.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Let us know in the comments, guys. Smash that comment button. Smash that belly button. Have you seen the two fat guys that do like a, they oil up their belly buttons and then they jump together and it makes like a, no, I never want to see. that. No, but I was talking, oh, there was some, yeah, I was talking to, yeah, my other massage people and they did like a Thai massage and there's like some massage where somehow you sit your pelvis bone like on your clients or whoever you're working on is from oral artery and you block it.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And I'm like, I'm like thinking, this guy was his pelvis, like, on my, it's like, that's like nuts to nuts. It feels like, I don't, I don't, I always think it like those balls, you remember how you take those balls and you go, yeah. I think that that's like what our balls would do. I don't want my balls. Like, I don't, I don't feel like that. something that I want. I don't want my
Starting point is 01:08:53 balls bouncing off other balls. Two guys scissering? No. I don't. Is that time? Is that how it works? No, trust me, it's a time. You're not gay. You're this is a massage. See, if you take two of them and do
Starting point is 01:09:08 into the, and then the two other ones, it's equal. Right. So I don't, Science. Smash in that comment button. smash out like and subscribe and let us know
Starting point is 01:09:24 if balls bouncing is gay because I don't and if it's not okay I mean I feel like I'm open-minded today's age you can do anything yeah no this is just a fun activity
Starting point is 01:09:47 you can do with your boys yeah just yeah boys night right boys night hey you guys ready to do some time massaging I don't No. Yeah, so anyway, that shit talkers weekly. Remember, it's all love. Put your wiener through there.
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