Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 159 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 15

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode! This week Cam and James cover today’s lonely epidemic among men, controversy in politics, Cam’s new Hoyt Bow, and more! Follow along: Ins...tagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00  The Male Loneliness Epidemic 00:10:02  Clayton Johnson from Stranger Things & the Deputy from DREAM 00:11:16  Q: Biggest Animal Cam Could Take on in a Fight 00:12:18  Los Angeles: Travis Barker’s Birthday and Alexi Pappas  00:20:28  Barnes & Noble - Undeniable  00:21:44  The New Hoyt Bow - RX-10  00:29:04  Hoyt Bow Setup & Accessories 00:35:11  Cam’s Thoughts on the Epstein Files 00:37:44 The Military & Corruption of the Government  00:44:48  WhistlinDiesel Tax Evasion Allegations 00:47:58   Chito Vera Getting Jumped & Bo Nickla’s Fight 00:50:36  Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off  Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order

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Starting point is 00:02:17 So sometimes when I'm tired, I either am retarded or actually am better. So it's like kind of a wild card. Well, it seems like the more retarded we are, the better for these. Okay, then hopefully it's. Yes, the former and ladder. Which, speaking of which, I got recognized again. Where? In the gym.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Oh, nice. By Nick. Nick the trainer dude? No. I have seen him in there a couple times, but do you know who Brent Primus is? Yeah, fighter. Yeah, he's from here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:47 He just said that I should look him up, but I looked him up and saw that he was Bellator champion. Yeah, he beat Chandler. Yeah. So he must be decent, but. It was before calf kicks were really a thing. He landed some hard calf kicks. And they thought it looked like Chandler's ankle was broke.
Starting point is 00:03:05 His foot was just flopping around, not even working. But the nerve was just dead from those hard calf kicks because he's, yeah, he's a stud. Yeah. I mean, the Nick guy looked like one too and he had cauliflower ears. Yeah. So whatever they say, you're just like, yeah. Of course. Yes, I agree.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I won't pick a fight with you. I know. I always got to look at the ears. But yeah. No, he was champion for sure. Yeah, the other guy I got a shout out is Steve, I think you say Seval. Maybe it's Savali. But he and I have followed each other for a little bit. He's a really talented graphic artist. And out of nowhere, he did the 200 mile race across Florida. Oh, really? And finished it. Oh, man. This guy's a badass. Is you from here? No. No, he just, you know, I found me from you. And then, yeah. But yeah, I was like, that's crazy. Yeah. I don't know what happened. I saw a bunch of stuff that was like he had a.
Starting point is 00:03:59 injured hamstring or whatever, but that's probably just people talking. I mean, three, two hundreds in the same year, dude, at 50, that's, that's legit. Is that easy? I mean, so he did great at two of them. And yeah, it's kind of a, you roll the dice on these things. Definitely. We do have some controversy to cover. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We seem to be, there's some polar responses to the real you posted about Nick Fuentes in Tucker Carl's. Yeah, the young guys, boy, they're really triggered. Okay, yeah, I saw some comments. And I feel like I can comment on this because I'm a young guy that were like, you don't, you know, I'll do respect, but you don't know. Right. Okay, well, I do know.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Well, no, say, I'm an old head. I'm tired of these old heads saying, yeah, or whatever. So I'm like, well, I don't know, I got two kids, probably your same age that are married. And you, you got supposedly have a girlfriend. Well, significant other. She's inflatable, but it's. She's really good to me. Does whatever I want.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So, I mean, it works. But yeah, I know. These young guys are, they're victims. I didn't know guys were victims now all of a sudden. That's, I don't know. It's like these young guys are like, oh, these girls have high body counts and our girl bosses. That's what one guy said. And I'm like, okay, true.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But also, I, being in the gym locker room, hearing how some of these guys talk is like, in the shit that they're into, I'm like, well, no wonder. women hate you. Well, and those guys actually are motivated. They're in the gym. Yeah. So imagine the guys on porn hub all day, you know, doing what, scrolling Instagram. Yeah. It's like, what do you, how, why would a girl want to be with you? Are you, are you taking any account about? Where are you trying to meet girls? So yeah, the gym would be good. How about church? That might be a good start. I mean, what are we doing? Or are you just a victim? And like all the girls are, I don't even know what I don't even know what they say. But how are,
Starting point is 00:06:02 how attractive are you making yourself? Well, this is kind of feeds into the whole male loneliness epidemic and like, girls hate me. And it's like, yeah. Like, why are you so,
Starting point is 00:06:13 I don't know, I get like, why are you so focused on girls? How old are you? I thought we went through that. I mean, okay, I will say,
Starting point is 00:06:23 being lonely would probably suck. I don't know that I've ever, I've always had. I think a girlfriend or a wife or something. So I don't... Player. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like, you know, in a small town,
Starting point is 00:06:42 there's not like a lot of choices. Yeah, that's true. It's like, yeah, that can be tough. So, you know, where the men are men and sheep run scared. I mean, Eugene's not thick with them. I'll say that much. No, it's my type, but... There's some thick ones, but there's not a bunch of thick ones.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And they have really fun-colored hair. I know. So, I mean, you got the purple hair liberals, and then you got the porn-addicted guys. It's like, that's going to be tough. I mean. Yeah. So, but here's what I say. I don't play into the victim shit.
Starting point is 00:07:26 No. It's like, what are you doing to better yourself? Why would a girl want to be with you? Are you working hard to get a good job? Are you taking care of yourself? Are you reading? Has anybody ever read a book? Are you trying to be like, how, why would somebody want to be with you?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah. I mean, I have a certain friend and I'm not going to name him. You know who you are because I've said this to you. But he's like, oh, you know, I want this and a girl, this and a wife. I want her to do this. And I'm like, the problem is that woman you're talking about is not going to put up with your shit. This shit that you're doing, you're always on hinge and you're always going on the next date. She's going to clock that from the get-go. And also, it's like, it seems like, okay, so we hear
Starting point is 00:08:10 about all the girls, all their problems, the Nick Fuentes, whatever, but all the girls' sake, all the guys are acting like Andrew Tate. I mean, so it's, I think social media is a problem. And I think both sides need to just kind of chill out and just be like, but if, they're not going to, go to someplace where you might meet a cool girl. Go to maybe a track meet. Go to, yeah, like I said, church. Yeah. I mean, we used to go to the mall.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I don't know if that's still a thing. I mean, the gym. Yeah, I understand. Maybe people don't want to be approached, but also don't be a dumbass. Pick up on the hints. If she hasn't looked at you, maybe don't approach her. I don't. Or don't have a boner when you go up and talk to her.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Is that a cum state? I mean, there's some, like, there's some big ticket things you could probably take care of that might help. I don't know. I mean, I've been, I'm old. I am the old head. I don't know. But like I said, I got, I got kids that have figured it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Well, well, I don't know. Maybe, maybe I don't understand, but I do. Yeah. I know. I know there's like, there's a lot of pro-nick guys out there. There are. Yeah. And I know it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:09:32 help, you know, I'm sitting in my glass house. I'm jacked. Strikingly good looking, funny, rich, rich, smart. So, you know, you should, you know what? You should start a podcast giving advice. I actually think what I'm going to do is sell a course. You should because I see a lot of guys your age that really haven't accomplished anything, but you have. But they're really quick to give advice, like life advice to other adult men. It's like, well, Hmm. I don't give advice. One thing I have taken away from that is that you should always do your taxes before going out.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I was going to go hunting, but I have to do my 10, 1040 or I can file my 1040. I don't even know what it's called. I haven't done taxes in years. I pay somebody. So why have I been hunting? Yeah. You've got it all wrong. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I've been escaping my responsibility. Let's focus on the important things here. Giving advice. How about, why don't you, do you have a girl, do you have a family? What are you doing? I might listen to you once you accomplish something besides talking a fucking microphone. Between Pornhub and taxes, not doing much. Those are just the two windows open on this browser.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Porn up taxes and podcasts. Oh my God. God. Yeah, I got to get off this midget porn and get my text. It's like a knockout this new episode. One more crank. Okay. Just to get my head straight. Oh, man. Okay. Well, we can move on from that.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Is that a midgettorn? Is that a, okay. That was a test, you sicker. This is all I've heard. Okay. If not, there should be. The other shoutout. I was watching Stranger Things. I talked about this, but season four, I'm watching it. And I'm like, man, that guy looks really familiar. Saw him more. I mean, he's like, he's a supporting role, but he's in it a lot. And I'm like, who is that? It's Clayton Johnson. Yeah. I forgot. Yeah. I know. We had it 16 and then whatever. Now he's gone. But I texted him and I was like, dude, I was like mid-watching it. I was like mid-watching it. Dude, you're in stranger things. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And then he said, yeah, get ready for season five. Oh, nice. So I guess he's in that too. Yeah, no, that was fun. I mean, that was part of my acting gig. He was the deputy for a while, and I think I had to chew his ass in the hallway that one time. I did what? I know.
Starting point is 00:12:31 That's my greatest skill. I've been working on it for a long time. You put that on your resume? Professional ass chewer. Not ass eater, chewer. God. This is, yeah. I mean, the last one, it was five seconds we went off the rails.
Starting point is 00:12:57 This one, we haven't been on the rails yet. Well, this next question I'll get you. Okay. What do you think the biggest animal is that you could take in a fight? And I mean, like, not surviving. You got to, I think you have to kill it with your bare hands. Biggest animal to kill bare hands. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:20 The animals are tough. I know. They're scrappy. They're scrappy. Because even like a, when you see a squirrel and it like runs, you know how sometimes they'll run at you to get to a tree or it kind of gets caught off guard and you're like, ha. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And this animal is also trying to kill you. So it's not like, you can't pick something cute and cuddly. No. Man, biggest animal. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Plus, I don't want to kill an animal with my bare hands. Yeah, but if you had to, you know, I was thinking maybe birds is a good way to go, fragile bones. Oh, yeah. Long neck. Right. There you go. So Pitchin. Okay, I could kill Pitchie. Okay, there we go. Yeah. We do got a cover. You just got back from a trip to L.A.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Oh, man. I know. Yeah. And it looked busy. I never. Yeah, that was, I'm not going to say it because I hate when people say, that wasn't on my 2025 bingo. So I'm not going to say that. What I'm going to say, it wasn't on my lifetime bingo cart to go to a party like that. It was Travis Barker's 50th birthday. And yeah, it was insane.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Nobody there that we would know. Who would you know that was there? Yeah, I mean, Cheeto. Cheeto was there. Okay. And I think that's probably about it. Okay. No, I think.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Just family and friends. Yeah, it was. And definitely was. But, you know, I did say, even on the mic, because it passed around a mic, and I did say, I'm probably the least like. person to be at a party like this in L.A. And all the Kardashian sisters were there. Kindle was, you know, slinking around like a model, how models walk looked just like
Starting point is 00:15:27 you'd expect. Kim, everybody, the mom, everyone was there. I mean, everybody I talked to was super nice and they'd be like, so you're the hunter? I'm like, yeah. So that was my like, whatever. Is that on your name tag? Yeah, basically. And so to go to a party like that, Travis knew I was down there because I went down to do Alexi's podcast, The Mentor Buffet. And that was fun. She's got like an Alice in Wonderland theme to it, like a lot different than this one about the exact opposite. But it was fun. You know, she's smart. She had her producer there too. And it was where Rich Roll does his podcast. And it's like a fucking. it's like a headquarters.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Really? I was like, who the hell are his sponsors? Because I don't even know how much that would cost. It was crazy. So she has one. Rain Wilson has one and that, and it's part of his network. And then Rich Roll.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I didn't know Rain Wilson was in that. Yeah. That's cool. He's there too. Yeah. Dwight. Yeah, I know. He's actually, I mean, obviously, yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:38 I think he just has a book that came out. And he's super smart, has great discussions. Of course, Alexi does a great job and then Rich. It's just like about, like if you had put on the scale of intelligence, this podcast would be, it would be on the opposite end of where that litany of podcasts would be. But yeah, so it was cool. So anyway, I was there and, you know, I told Travis that's coming down for that. And I said, hey, we should go on a run.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And so we went on a run. But he's like, oh, if you're going to be here, do you want to? My wife is, you know, Courtney's having a party for me. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, when else am I ever going to be? And this is insane. So how it turned out, yeah, it was great. Everybody's nice. You know, people were just saying that, Travis, you know, me being a hunter,
Starting point is 00:17:35 killing animals, him being a vegan, I think pretty much all of them were vegans. There are some guys that my area of the table, we were talking about hunting a lot. And they had been getting into hunting. That was fun, a guy named Nick. Travis's trainer was there, so I talked to him a lot. He's just a beast, Dawn. But everybody was saying that, you know, if anybody said to Travis, something like, why do you hang out with, you know, that bow hunter guy, he kills animals.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And he's like, I don't, and they said, this is what he says. I don't care what he does. He's my friend. And yeah, so he's just, you know, so super nice, super supportive. of and how it worked out is we ended up, I went to the party, it was crazy, just not like any birthday party I've ever been to catered, super nice, band, everything you'd expect. And then the next morning, we did a good run with Alexi that morning, I think six miles down the hill and back up. Then the next morning, me and Travers are going to work out again, and Donna's trainer's
Starting point is 00:18:40 going to run us through a workout. So I went back up. And it seemed like every morning I was in L.A. I was in their kitchen when Courtney got up with the baby. And I was like finally the last morning. I said, listen, I said, I know I'm here in the kitchen again. This is the last time I'm going to be here, I promise. I'm sorry. Because you know, when you get up in the morning, you don't want who the fuck is this guy in this kitchen again? Why is this guy always at my house? So I was just there all the time. But she's super, I mean, super nice. I mean, the most generous people and people have all these I preconceived notions
Starting point is 00:19:14 about the Kardashians. I don't really know any the other ones, but I know Courtney and I know and her husband obviously Travis and they couldn't be any nicer. But we did that workout and it kicked my ass. Dude, it was hard. What was? Like what was the circuit?
Starting point is 00:19:31 Oh, I mean it was like to music so it's fast. He likes doing it to like a beat. And I'm like, I'm I mean, I like music, but and I like lifting. I don't really marry the two. So I was like like the trainer's like quicker, quicker, quicker, like boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So you're doing like curls, 10. He'd move the pin down 10 to the beat, down 10, then back up. So 50. And then pushups. 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 50. And then you do two sets of those. Then you go and get on the treadmill and run a half mile. Then two more exercises like that, like pull-ups, dip,
Starting point is 00:20:09 muscle up kind of things where kind of bounced off the bosa ball to give you a little because you get kind of tired after doing 50 those so you get the bosa ball to give you a little boost but you're going to I mean I could always do it but it without the ball I couldn't have or without the the bosa ball and then so we did like five second or five sets of a hundred so 500 reps and in between each set so four times we did a half miles, so two miles running. And afterwards, I mean, I was dripping sweat and laying on that floor. And Travis was doing better than me. That's hard.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah, he's in shape. And I thought, oh, he's a vegan. He's like, I don't know. I thought lifting, I'd be fine. He's fit, dude. People that don't do those, like, circuit workouts. I mean, just lifting is one thing, but doing it in a circuit when your heart rates up, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was, 50 times harder I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be like kind of fun and I could be like, oh, I'm, you know, I'm fairly, for my size, fairly strong lifting. Yeah. But didn't see it there. I was thinking about everybody at the party and I'm like, you know, the whole celebrity thing is, it's cool, but it doesn't do much for me except was Timothy Shalami there? No. I mean, no, there's only, there's probably a 50 people. there and he's is he kindles yeah boyfriend he's like one of my favorite actors yeah i don't i
Starting point is 00:21:44 didn't see him she was at a shoot and she ended up cordon he didn't know she was going to make it up there but she did and um yeah so all of her sisters were there that's crazy yeah i also saw you did some rabbit hunting oh i know i was trying to get that rabbit yeah no that was i'm somehow i'm always hunting like you went on the run there's that big buck there yeah i kept filming that thing. Yeah, it was a nice buck. Yeah, I would arrow that f***. But yeah, it's a, it's nuts. It's a, that's a whole different world. I'll tell you what. When I'm glassing ridges for elk or mule deer, I can't afford to miss any movement. That's why for the past two seasons, I've been using six-hour binoes and I absolutely love them. These optics change the game.
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Starting point is 00:24:31 I feel like it is. I always see people like making these reels of people going into Barnes and Noble. And I'm like, you f***. Yeah. You would make fun of people for going to Barnes and Noble before. I love bookstores. I used to go and read hunting magazines in there and drink coffee. Yeah. And that one was two stories. It was there. I can't remember what the place is called, but it's right. I mean, it's in, I still wanted to say Casablanca, but it is. Calabasasas. So it's a really nice place there and nice, super nice restaurants and stores and this two-story Barnes & Noble. Yeah, I always, when I'm in Barnes & Noble, it makes me feel like I can read. Yeah. And I'm like, I want a book.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I know. See? Hey, all those Nick Fuentes kids, whatever, crying about, go there. Go there. There's girls in there. And you can talk about books. You'll hold me in a book upside down. You like, this one?
Starting point is 00:25:23 I mean, they even have a porn section. I mean. Two birds once. Let's get creative, guys. Yeah. God, bookstores. That's a ticket. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Can pretend like you're smart. I also saw you set up your new bow. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It was good. It's a, what do I want to say about the new bows? The new bows are incredible. I hate the fucking release dates and all this, you know, hiding it and all this shit.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And then I'm not doing any of that anymore. I never really did it. But it's, yeah, it's just weird how they release those right in the fucking middle of hunting season. It's like I want like months. Yeah. Before I'm going to go elk hunting or something. Now, if I'm, you know, this Texas hunt that I'm going to do or Oregon Blacktail or a bear hunt where it's 20 yards, whatever. I could pick up, I could pick up a bow just laying right here and kill something.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But if I'm expected to go kill mule deer and elk, I can't. I need, I want to believe in that thing. Yeah. You know, I mean, a 400-inch bull elk and I have this bow that I'm not really comfortable with yet. So I don't, this release thing. And it's just irritating how the industry hasn't, hasn't hardly changed. I mean, it did back when there was an ATA show, all the new bows just come out in January,
Starting point is 00:26:50 but now the ATA is kind of dead. And I just think that because the, the hunting is so night and day different from back east to out west, They think that they release this to where like the Eastern hunters could get a new bow and use it, I think, I guess for White Tail. I don't know. But we've already been hunting since August or, you know, whatever. And because the challenge is so much different from tree stand guys in back east, 20 yards to Western guys who want to shoot at 70 yards and do all the tax shoots, have different lines and have them come up out at different times. have a Western line that comes out in April or May and have the Eastern line and have the
Starting point is 00:27:39 bows perform differently because the guys out east don't need a site that goes to 100 yards. They don't need to shoot screaming fast arrows. They need to shoot a heavy, hard-hitting arrow at 20 yards. They need like three or four pins. Out here, we want our dial-up site. We want precision. want everything. We want like a flat flying arrow. We want a high performance bow. It's a whole different. You want high poundage because you're in the mountains so you're warmed up so you can
Starting point is 00:28:11 pull back 80 pounds pretty easy. You try to pull back 80 pounds after sitting for 10 hours in a tree stand when it's 10 degrees. No, you need 60 pounds. Yep. So what are we doing? Can the industry not change at all? Can we not evolve in any way? And now you're going to say, okay, here's our bow release date got to do all this i'm like no i'm i'm i'm been hunting with this other bow all season i believe in it i'm not switching until this is all done it makes no sense and then it's like oh i don't i don't get it you would think that the if like you said release it in april or may or if you have to even june those the sales are going to be way higher when it releases people are getting excited it's coming spring they got time to set it up so they're because because i think people would be like
Starting point is 00:28:56 no i'm not buying a new bow now because this one's dialed in and hunting season coming. Yeah, and they've already put their reps in. And the thing is, even for the hunter that, let's be honest, most guys probably get excited about June, July, start shooting, maybe even later, I don't know, but they're going to go into the shop and see the new bow and be like, okay, I got to get that. Yeah. Start shooting their old one. They're like, I really want this new bow. It's like, I think we could help sales, help people be more successful, help marketing, cater to specific needs of each region, you know, east west. And I just think you'd be the best way to do it. Now that said, the bow is
Starting point is 00:29:33 fucking incredible. I mean, so however long I had to wait and I waited, I didn't get it set up because I was doing all this shit. But that said, it is amazing. So they did, I don't know how they do it. I said in my post, I don't know how these engineers keep. I mean, that tuning system is nuts. It's a, my boat today was never in the press and made all the tweaks where normally you'd have to take the axle out, do the shims, each side, you know, tearing left, right, doing all this stuff. Can axle back out. Oh, went too far with that shim. Oh, take it smaller. It's like, it's a process. Never was in the bow press one time. That's crazy. It, I don't, it's amazing this technology. So my hat is off to the bow builders and the company's putting them out. I just like, I'm blown away and impressed. And I know I'm going to have a lot of success and confidence.
Starting point is 00:30:29 but it's going to take me a while to get it set up to where I'd ever go on like a real Western hunt in the mounds or a grizzly hunt or a brown bear hunt or a Cape Buffalo hunt, something like that. Yeah, I mean, where it's controlled setting 20 yards, yeah, I can be very accurate and have tons of confidence with that and say, you know, a week or two.
Starting point is 00:30:49 But, man, I just think we really need to, I think of one of these companies just got innovative on bow releases and catering to the needs of, of each Archer, or not each archer, but each region. You would think it would make more sense. Maybe, again, you know, it's Unk and the sidekick who doesn't know anything. So let us know why we're wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's all love. It's all love, baby. I mean, yeah. So, I mean, um, yeah, we didn't say that. Also, here's what I'm, this is crazy. So I went in, I like buying new stuff. Yeah, I just like was buying, I like when I get a new bow, I like putting new stuff on it.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I don't like taking my old beat up shit and put it on a new bow. And I'm not dicking around with little, with rest sponsors or anything like that anymore, which I don't want to minimize it because they are freaking expensive. But nowadays, I just don't care. So I just want to buy what I want, put on what I want. Yeah, I'll do the bow because Hoyt's been an incredible partner. And I, you know, I have so much confidence in Hoy.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And they have supported me and believed in me. And I'm super thankful for that. It's not like I didn't earn it. So it's like there's not, it's not a charred. So let's not get too crazy. But I do appreciate the partnership. But I like new stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So I just started grabbing stuff, you know. Oh, yeah, the Spothog site. God, that Booney site, $444 for the site. I mean, yes, they are awesome. And it had me even going, God, do I need to take that site off my other book? but I'm like, no, I'm going all new on this shit.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But point is, that bow all set up today was going to be about $2,600. And then if you get a carbon, it's like $3,100 total. But that's best of the best of everything. I used top of the line, you know, I never, back in the day, I wanted a PSC Mach 6 I mean, it's like I would think about it every night, but they were $1,100. And I'm like, God, if I had $11,00 bow, I'd be so much, I'd be, even if it's 1% better, that's better.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Right. And I wanted that so bad. But back in the early 90s, $1,100, it'd be like $10,000 right now for a bow. But point is, still, you know, $2,500. And these arrows, those arrows I shoot are like, I think like 50 bucks apiece. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 This shit's expensive. So that's not including arrows. Yeah, no. Yeah, the 26 and the 3100. So 26 for the aluminum riser bow. 3100 for the carbon, all with the top of line. The Hampski Rest, the boony site, the awesome Hoyt Quiver. I put that mule stabilizer on, which I don't know how much those are, probably a million.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But yeah, all that best of the best. And then I want to shoot the best of the best arrows. And we've talked about this before, too. Those were the X-10, the parallel pros. I mean, using the Olympics, say whatever you want. Yeah, there's four-fletch on there. I'm a dumb-ass. But anyway, you start adding that for the bow and then 50 bucks an arrow.
Starting point is 00:34:11 God, dang. That adds up. That shits a lot. But you could get the bow just to look at. You know, you don't need arrows. True. And you should be doing your taxes anyway. True.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And not hunting. Well, that's your mistake. If you did your taxes first, you wouldn't have four fletches. So, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what to. I don't know what my point was about the money. Although, all I'm saying is it's, it costs a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah. I mean, it's, and, you know, bows aren't like rifles. You don't, you got to get another, a new one next year. I mean, you could just shoot a stick bow. You could. Yeah, I mean. You make one like Tanner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I mean, I have a hard enough time killing with my bow. So a stick bow? I don't know. But I just like, I also want to pay for that stuff just because I love that pro shops are, I want, I want Wayne to kick ass. He's been kicking ass for 30 years. The bow rack is, you know, incredible. You know, now I'm part owner of archery country. I love pro shops.
Starting point is 00:35:22 So I want to support pro shops. All the guys working at the bow rack, I want to support them. I want to buy stuff. I want my, they make my arrows. They, you know, we worked on my bow today. I was in there. I loved it. I talked to the other guys coming in.
Starting point is 00:35:35 This guy coming in about a Spothog seven-pin site. And I remember back in the day, people were saying, because I wanted a seven-pin site. Spothog had a five, and I'm like, I need more. And they're like, well, probably nobody will buy those. And yeah, they sold. and they're still selling. Yeah. And so that guy today,
Starting point is 00:35:54 I was telling him, yeah, I used to put little stickers on 30, 50, 70 because you have seven pins on there. That's a lot of shit to try to keep track of in the heat of the moment. I mean, to find a 50 or 40 in the middle of all that shit, I said, you've got to have something that's going to give you a reference point on there.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Quick. And fast. I mean, so yeah, I have to die on my site now, but finding that pin was also a challenge when I did that too. but the point is I was talking to those guys in there about bow hunting, guys getting fired up for late season.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I just love the pro shop life. So I want to support it. Yeah. Speaking of Wayne, you know, I didn't interview with him on Friday, but he was talking about you back in the day, Mullet and the jean jacket. He said you were fashion before fashion even existed. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I definitely had. I had a look. Yeah. So I don't know where I got it from, but I had it for sure. Well, we'll have to bring it to life in the Winnihaw film because I want to use that part. There is. I had the jean jacket with a collar popped, a fanny pack and the acid watch jeans. That's exactly what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Yeah, that's it. Yeah. I know. That was, yeah, I think most people thought I was gay probably. Well, that was back before the fanny pack was cool. That was before there was gay people, I thought. Was there? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I didn't know any gay people. We were still closeted. Yeah. But, well, the other big thing, and I think people obviously care so much about our opinions on everything. And it's not looking great. I'm, okay. I'm so sick of politics, dude. I fucking hate, I hate, you're a Democrat?
Starting point is 00:37:50 What the fuck is that? You're Republican? What is that? None of that shit means anything anymore. They're all fucking corrupt. Yeah. Fuck them all. I hate politics.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I hate every person right now. And I mean, here's the Epstein files. Oh, Trump ran on the saying that, oh, we're going to release Epstein files. Oh, no, we're not now. Oh, the Democrats want to. No, the Republicans want to. Oh, we're going to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Here's that. Oh, all these influencers had the Epstein file binders up. It's just like. But there's nothing in there or it's all redacted. Or how about all the times we were lied to that they didn't even exist? Oh, there's no Epstein files. And now all this. It's like, are we just going to forget that they said there were no Epstein files?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. But then they released them to the influencers. And those fucking dorks were holding them up. I know. It's like, what do you? And now they're like, now we see Postos saying people are saying, release all the Epstein files. Like, hey, you said you had them. Remember that binder?
Starting point is 00:38:49 You said you had them. Yeah, you had them. I mean, and now, then Trump was saying, why are you guys still talking about that? What's a big deal? Why are you still talking about that? And it's like, then I was like, what the fuck? What do you mean? That's what you ran on?
Starting point is 00:39:03 So then he said, why are you still talking about? It's no big deal. And now he's saying, well, we're going to release them all. It's like, I thought you said there's no big deal. God, if it makes me want to punch somebody in the face. Yeah. Same. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I don't know. Politicians. Oh, my God. So fucking. fucking worthless. And I'll tell you what, I don't know. I know there's some dick riders on both sides are just going to go, would go to the ends of the earth. Or dick suckers. Bubba. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't even know who the fuck Bubba is, but I don't really want to know. Or what it is. I don't, yeah, I don't. I'm just, it drives me insane. But I think there's
Starting point is 00:39:45 a lot of people who, I don't know, maybe not, but maybe feel like me. me. And yes, we believe in America. I believe in America. I don't believe in these Fingers. No. But America, I love. I love our country. I love everything about it. I love our military. And those guys, the military, you know, Tanner was in the military. It's like those guys, they join because they want to do something bigger than themselves. They love the idea of American fighting. And, you know, we're independent. That's why we're here. That's why we're here. That's how this country started. And protecting or rights and liberties and freedom, that's why they join. And then they get over there and who knows why the, why the war is happening
Starting point is 00:40:32 or why it happened or any of it if it was real or we started it to fucking make money with this war machine. But once they're in, then it's like they're fighting for each other for their brothers. They believe in each other. They, you know, they would die for each other. And then it's about that. It's about they're not thinking about why are we here. They're thinking about what are we doing tonight? What's the objective tonight? Yep. And so I can't, I have nothing but respect for the, for the guys at the tip of the spear.
Starting point is 00:41:05 But the fucking war machine and this fucking corrupt bureaucrat fucking lying thieves, I am so sick of it. With what kind of seems to be no remorse. for the human lives that they're sending over there, for whatever their gain is. They don't give a $0. They care about standing in front of a microphone, talking shit and making money.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yep. And getting, acting pompous and looking down at the American people. Yeah, I know. For being peasant. Oh, we're the peasants. It's like sometimes it kind of reminds me of the hunger games and like the capital district.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And it's like, we're not that far from it. It doesn't feel like it. I just, I'm just, I'm disgusted. Yeah, same. I think a lot of people feel that way and I'm hoping, my hope is, it's probably wrong, but it's like for the first time in a long time, people are like kind of looking across the aisle and saying, oh, we're, we're on the same side here. I hope.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And it's not so much left versus right. Yeah, I mean, just like some of the comments on, you know, on Lexi's page is calling me a MAGA influencer. And yeah, I fucking did, I did, I did. I did believe in like, hey, we needed a change, you know, years ago. And I couldn't support what the Democrats were doing. And yeah, but it's fucking over. That's over for me.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Well, he ran on anti-corruption. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's going to drain the swamp. And I'm like, fucking perfect. But nothing has changed. No, he's a part of the swamp. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And it's like, I can't. So, fuck that. It's like, and if you can't see pass out or listen to what I'm saying right now. And, and, I mean, I don't know. I hate the tribalism. Like, oh, I can't, like, people will look at me and say, oh, you're a hunter, baseball hat, beard, fucking MAGA. And then we'll see, oh, here's the other side.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Oh, you're some fucking twink pink-haired liberal. It's like, no, I don't give a fuck. I want to hear what you say, how you, what you believe in. I don't, not the voting. I don't care about the fucking voting at all. I don't give a shit about parties. I don't care about any of that. I want, I want just Americans that believe.
Starting point is 00:43:18 in each other and can love each other and support each other and like do the right thing and not have it be about politics and I don't know what the answer is though I don't either because there seems to be also a good amount of like people want to be right it gives them whatever an ego boost or whatever but they want to say told you so oh I know it's like the people that are like you voted for this like shut the fuck up okay cool you got me you got your moment but like so now what yeah exactly Does that help in, does that solve anything? So, oh, didn't you read the 2025 fucking report? No.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Who the fuck read that whole thing? If you would have read, but I, I don't like that, you know, the ranchers are suffering because of the tariffs and the buying the beef from, from Argentina. And, you know, selling off. And this, and then, oh, then you talk about Israel. They talk about, oh, we've had this plan for Israel for a couple years now. It's like, what? What do you mean? What plan to rebuild it?
Starting point is 00:44:25 But it didn't need to be rebuilt until we bombed the fuck out of it. So how could you have had a plan? Yeah, I got into a debate with a buddy who was like, oh, you know, our biggest ally over there. And I'm like, for what? What do we get? Well, for the Middle East. Why? Why?
Starting point is 00:44:40 What are we gaining? No, the only, the American people aren't gaining anything. No, here's what, here's what. So we were over there for 20, 25 years, Afghanistan. You know who runs it right now? The Taliban. It's bright back to what it was. And that shit pisses me off because it's like,
Starting point is 00:44:57 that to me is the worst way to honor the people that gave their lives. I know. It's for whatever purpose they believed in. It's like, I know. How are we doing? Yeah, that, it makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah. Sad.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But, you know, it's. That part's not all. Yeah, no. That part is let's get our heads out of our asses. Oh my God. But yeah, I mean, I don't care if somebody's like, I just don't know who to believe. No, me either. And, you know, I think one of the big solutions here would be just everyone make sure you do your taxes before you go and save. It's more important now than ever. That's what we need to add we need to ask those 20 year old guys with all the answers what the fuck we should do. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I don't the probably no better than me because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of people feel like that too. It's like, well, obviously, anything I do, how I vote, doesn't matter. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's demoralizing. Kind of feels that way. It's demoralizing. It's like, I want to believe in something.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah. That's all. I just want to give me something to believe in. That's it. And I'll fucking go. I worked hard for them. I, you know, I helped Dresen. when she's running for governor. I did help Trump in that whole ticket. I mean, I've been back to
Starting point is 00:46:22 D.C. I've wanted to help. I want, I want to believe in something. But now I'm like, I can't trust anything. Yeah. And we all know, you know, you're, it's easy. You trust people easily, you know? Yeah. So if you're not trusting anything, then we're screw. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. So that was a fun talk. Yeah, I feel like that was a good substance. I don't know. I don't know. Hopefully we get some answers. I'm going to be spending some time with some of those people.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Not those, hopefully not those people. But yeah, I'm going to be doing a podcast with Whistle and Diesel. That's a breaking news who got arrested by, I don't, here's what's so stupid. Okay, this, I did want to bring this up. So Whistle and Diesel, look them up on Instagram. Been around for a while. Young kid, kicking ass, doing cool stuff with cars. Just built a brand.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah. I mean, making millions. So something about a car registration in Montana. So they came, all these, I guess, ATF agents or cops or fucking somebody came, like, arrested him, this big or deal over tax evasion. It's like, wait a second. So we can have, spend that much resource on arresting some fucking kid, but we got pedophiles running Washington, D.C., and that's fine. But you're worried about this fucking kid who bought a truck in Montana?
Starting point is 00:47:58 Dude. Are you fucking kidding me? I don't get it. And if I were the person getting arrested, I'd be like, fuck you. That's what he's doing. I'm not doing anything. That's what he's, he said, I mean, I don't know. So his name's Cody.
Starting point is 00:48:12 we're going to go back there do a podcast. It would be fun. Yeah, I want to, it's, I don't know. What the fuck do I know? I don't know shit about it, but it seems ridiculous to have all that hoopla, tax evasion arresting, parading him around in handcuffs,
Starting point is 00:48:29 while what goes on in D.C. is evil. You can't, I don't know. I look at that, I'm like, you can't pick and choose which part of the government's work. You know, it's like, you guys. That's I know, which is a, it's a dangerous thing to, I mean, you get a bunch of people thinking that, that's not good. No. I'm not inciting violence or anything. I'm just saying that's not good.
Starting point is 00:48:54 No. Because I do know I'm on a list now. I just, I just think it, it seems ridiculous when you look at the big picture. Yeah, it does. It definitely does. So anyway, I'm going to talk to him when you, I just want to hear his story also. His story's nuts. That should be good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Is that going to be, does he have a podcast? Are we doing that for ours? Oh, perfect. Yeah. So we got to take our stuff back. We just film all like we've done like in El Camp with Joe and Adam, just like that. So he's going to be at that event that I'm going to. And then we'll do the podcast too.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Is that a black tie event? Am I going to need my suit? I have no. No. I don't. I mean, yeah. Sneak in as a butler. Where did I wear?
Starting point is 00:49:39 Where did I feel severely? Oh, I think it was at the White House. No, no, no, no, at Travis's birthday. Oh. I just wore jeans and my boots. Oh. I mean, but Kim was wearing camo. Really?
Starting point is 00:49:53 Yeah. Your culture is not her costume. I thought you needed a tie when you were in D.C. or something. Oh, I did. Yeah. Yeah. And I had to scrounge up a tie for sure. But, yeah. Yeah. So I don't know, I'm not, I don't dress up, dude. You know, boots and jeans are about as good as he gets. But, oh, Cheeto was at the UFC this weekend.
Starting point is 00:50:14 He said, like, 30 Russians jumped Dylan Dennis. I saw that. Yeah, he said 30. I'm like, yeah, they don't forget. No. Those guys play the long game.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Also, if you're going to pick 30 guys to jump you, that's probably the worst. The absolute worst. Yeah. Holy shit. I mean, I can't believe he got out of there alive. I didn't see.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Was he pretty... He didn't look that bad. I mean, but I did see one, like, have a chair and somebody grabbed the chair, but a metal chair? This wasn't like WWE, no. This is like a real metal chair. Hey, WWE's real. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah, I know. Yeah, is Logan Paul the champion? Yeah. I also saw that Bo Nickel landed a vicious kick, high kick. I know, I texted him. That was sick. And I texted him because that, I also texted Joe, he was calling the fight,
Starting point is 00:51:09 but I was like, to the shadow realm there that height but that fight to start um that guy looks so scary yeah i mean he's little older like 30 some he looks like just a killer and just shredded and Brazilian and just the up ears but bow has fucked up ears too but bow looks you know young and i'm like oh my god this guy this might be hard and bow lit him up yeah it's a good fight he's He beat the shit out of him. Bo is a fucking machine. He's a beast.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And then that head kick. But no, I mean, Bo looked amazing. I was super pumped to see that. Then he gets up there and flips off the crowd. Which is, I think he gets mad because those guys work so hard. And then no matter how good or whatever you do,
Starting point is 00:52:04 people are like talk shit about you. It's like, what the fuck? And he said, pick one. Love me or hate me. I love that. I mean, you knock somebody out like that, talk to shit.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, I know. He, that was amazing. Yeah, it was a good night of fights. But yeah, the fight in the crowd was nuts. Yeah. That was, I saw clips from that. I think Chameyev was in a fight too. Was he?
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yeah. I just saw, you know, Dana was like, Danes isn't, Dylan Danes isn't invited back to any more UFC fights. Yeah. Probably a good bet. Yeah, but I do respect how he, you know, they asked if he wanted to press charges. And he's like, no.
Starting point is 00:52:41 No. What do you expect with fighters? Yeah. I like that too. Yeah, he's, no, Dane is a G. Yeah. Nothing but respect. But, uh, yeah, so that's a wide ranging.
Starting point is 00:52:53 A lot of topics. A lot of topics on the shit. Talker's 15. I got a piss like a racehorse. All right. A mirror. That's a. No bubba suck.
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