Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 166 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 18

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode. This week Cam and James kick things off with stories about James’ tux mishaps, skipping showers, and sweating it out in the mountains. They div...e into embracing misunderstanding, resistance, and why that's fuel for growth. Topics heat up with a breakdown of the "GenPop" era, the rise of AI, and the wild "fake the fake girl" phenomenon taking over social media. Plus a skeptical look at government medical schemes, a massive Spotify shoutout as ENDURE and UNDENIABLE dominate global charts, and powerful final thoughts to wrap it all up. Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – James’ Tux, Showers, & Mountain Sweat  00:06:14 – Tanner Hanes & Good YouTube Gym Content 00:09:04 – Embracing Misunderstanding and Resistance 00:11:26 – The GenPop Generation, AI, & Fake the Fake Girl Phenomenon 00:18:45 – Bow Weight: Does it Really Matter? 00:21:11 – The Value of Realism vs the Growth of AI 00:34:51 – Gut Checks: Pain & the Journey of Running Ultra Races 00:43:22 – New Keep Hammering Collective Web App & New Challenges 00:47:22 – Masculinity vs Femininity: Men Shouldn’t Be Women 00:52:20 – Hanes Christmas Bench Competition 00:56:01 – Government Medical Scheme 01:03:39 – Spotify Shoutout: ENDURE & UNDENIABLE in the Top Charts of the World 01:13:07 – Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off  Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics

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Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm supposed to unbutton this when you sit down? I think so. Wait, but what do we got on there? Blood. Oh, okay. Minstrel cycle. I haven't dry cleaned it since the last time I wore it. So it smells like shit.
Starting point is 00:02:53 All right. This is a keep crammering collective. This is shit talkers 18. This is the redo of shit talkers the prelim 18. Right. For those of you that don't believe we have to redo them.
Starting point is 00:03:06 So I shit can the whole other version and we're going to try again. Yeah. And this happens. Chiggity check yourself before you riggedy wreck yourself. And it's not show friends. It's show business.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And I can't help but I think everybody's one. wondering about this coffee cup. I think they are. And your tucks. Yeah, but more so the coffee cup. What the f***es up with the tucks? I take this shit serious.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I guess. Yeah. So dress to impress, you know, you dress for the role you want, and I'm running for president. And what, so is that, okay, is that all of it? What is the occasion? There isn't one. Is it prom? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm taking my girlfriend. She's a sophomore. It's her first prom. She's 15. And I wanted to impress her parents. Oh, they're going to love. They're going to love me. When a 30-year-old shows up.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm an artist. I don't see number. Get the fuck out. That's her dad. Age is just a number. Yeah. She's an old soul. She's really mature for her age.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah, that's dangerous. Yeah. No, well, I wore it to a gala, and then we talked about it on shit talkers, and the fans have been wondering when I was going to wear it. And also, it's a tux you wear one time. What are you supposed to never wear it again? Exactly. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Cough. Yeah. You wear that once a week, dude. I got this bitch fitted. Yeah. I'm wearing it every time. Looks good. It looks good.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Of course it does. I'm wearing it. Is that a clip on? Okay. I was hoping you wouldn't notice. Yeah. Do you think I got time to tie my own? Boatie?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah. That's a bow tie, right? My dad was never around to teach me. Yeah, no. Well, yeah, I wouldn't know how to do a tie either. I think when I worked at Safeway, I had to do one. I think so. Were you a cashier?
Starting point is 00:05:23 No. I was in charge of dairy. Oh, which is weird because I'm also lactose intolerant. Hey, coaches don't play. Coaches don't play. Yeah, so luckily I didn't have to taste the product. Because that's how you go broke too when you start using your own product. That's what they say.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Don't use your own supply. Yeah. Don't get high on your own supply and don't shit your pants with your own dairy. I think that's why. Uh-oh. I'm not wearing tucked bottoms just so everybody. Oh, okay. I could might as well be wearing underwear.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I thought you were going to be naked with a hard on. I mean, here's a fun fact, which I just put up. I haven't taken a shower today. Oh, I took one before this. To get ready? It had been a couple days. Oh, yeah, and I've been in the sauna. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:06:14 So just percolating, just freaking ball sweat. Then I ran. I mean, I'm usually like three showers deep. By now, marinating. And I got nothing. I got nothing. And what's good about that, too, is you texted me, you know, 15 minutes ago saying you're ready when I was. So you had time.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I had definitely had time today to take shower. I don't really know what is going on. But that's good. You know how sometimes. I think we're going to do a new scratch and sniff product. You know how like sometimes. So you sweat and your B.O. is like pretty bad. Then it kind of dries up and then it's like it's almost like you took a shower, but it's
Starting point is 00:07:01 You got wet. It's good enough. It dries so it's just not like, it's just not like no olfactory. Wafting. Wafting. Yeah, good. Wafting, wafting, whatever it is. But then you like reinvigorate it and get on the mountain again.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And then it's like back to fresh. We're back, baby. And now it's like back to down a little bit. That's, uh, Austin Powers, um, fat bastard. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you gotta love your own cooking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah. I mean, I guess it's like, uh, what is that in bed when you do the cut the hot boxing? Mm. Yeah. Yeah. So that's. You're hot boxing. You're, your boss.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah. I mean, maybe if I got, I get to pull my short, the waistband and get the, yeah, it's tubular. It's fucking smells good That's HVAC baby I would lick my own balls if I could I think I mean Spoken like a true groiper Yeah
Starting point is 00:08:11 We went into that I didn't even know what this was But we On the on the after dark special The one that got canned Patreon
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah oh it's Patreon Right It's so all you Patreon on people go and like and smash that subscribe button. And you can see that episode. Yeah. What do you got there? Is that a new watch?
Starting point is 00:08:35 I don't know. That's what I was wondering. I mean, what is this? Is this for me? I know Tanner has a saying in. Oh, wait. You didn't bring this? Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Did he leave it? Was he lifting? Yeah. Those are nice watches. Oh, is this? They do like special runs. They have some that just the regular public can buy, but then they also do special runs for just,
Starting point is 00:08:56 military members. Okay. Yeah, this is, I mean, I don't know. I thought you brought this. No. Maybe he was lifting today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And getting. Getting back to. Dude, he's jacked. Well, he's lean now. I know, but he's. I remember when he was like 2.10, I told him, I was like, oh, you should cut. You'd be, you'd look like a freak.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Well, I thought he was gone. I mean, he's like, okay, I'm going to go lift. And then I thought he was gone because it'd been forever. And then he came back. in like an hour and a half later. I was like, God, dang. And now he's watching lifting videos again, which there's some sick lifting videos. Yeah, there are. There's some good, there's some shitty gym content, then there's some really good stuff. Have you seen the one where Matt Rife was in there lifting with those savages? Was he with like Diamond Gym or something? I don't know,
Starting point is 00:09:49 but like Jack, black guys. Yeah. Yeah. Just yelling the whole time. Yeah. And he's like, I think he dropped a plate on his toe or something thing but anyway there's this other one tanner sent me this guy was doing incline and it wasn't that much but you know how when you get burned out so they would not rack it for him he could not get it oh yeah and they're just like no you're not putting it down because i think he told one of the guys to f*** off or came or something like this he's like oh no you said me okay you're finishing this rep so he kept trying to like get it get rid of it they kept putting a back on him yeah that's diamond Jim. They're controversial.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I love it, dude. Because there's another one where Alex Eubank or Eubanks, I don't know, he's like a really popular Jim. Homo. Yeah. But he went in there and he took a drink of water and he wasn't allowed to. And so they just like ran him through the ringer for it.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He's like a pretty boy, right? Yeah, he's, I mean, whatever. He's super hot, really rich. Loser. You go down on him. Yeah. I like his balls. I think I He's white Like long hair
Starting point is 00:11:00 Okay yeah He definitely seen He's obviously And yeah He's got a lot going on It's sort of like True it It's like why true gets so much hate
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah It's like you just look at Like that And you're like I don't know who this is But I hate him Yeah I hate him too
Starting point is 00:11:13 My girlfriend loves him Of course That's weird Yeah That's his audience I know Yeah Well kind of speaking of being hated
Starting point is 00:11:24 I ran across this guy. He does reels, H. Miller 76, but he put, he's two things caught my attention. This first reel was about the hero. And I think this applies kind of to our audience, but it was like to be an actual hero in today's standards or whatever, you have to be hated. And not to say that everyone that's hated is a hero, but basically, you know, the hero has to be okay with standing out from society being different, maybe being hated, and people not understand. you. And in that way, you're kind of similar to the villain. He used, this is gay, but he used the Dark Knight. Yeah. Batman Joker. Right. And how Gotham hated Batman. And at the end, he wasn't running away from the Joker. He was running away from Gotham. And that is because society didn't understand him, but because he's the hero, he's willing to be hated and still protect them. And do you, I mean, do you think that's kind of true and take it away from a movie in a way that's like, Maybe for men, you know, you have to be okay being misunderstood, even being hated, but still protecting those that need it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 No, that's, I mean, there's no leaders or anybody really respected in society that just fits in with society. It's like, if you fit in, it's a fucking problem. Because if you've seen how society just general gin pop is, I mean, come on. Yeah, those are. Yeah, so that's it. Yeah, I get that analogy where to stand out, you're going to be different for sure, which is that's what it takes. You want to be different, I would hope.
Starting point is 00:13:08 But I think some people struggle with that because you want to be, also you want to be accepted and you want to have people believe in you and you want to have support. You want to have, you know, you can't always be the outsider, but that's kind of what it takes to, you break loose of the, the masses, the crowds, and you forge your own path. And I think in that example, you're not forgetting who you left behind because they still might need you. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But yeah, it is to make a name as a man, yeah, you're not going to be part of the crowd. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Jen Pop, we talked about this on the last one, so people won't hear it because it's getting scrapped. but the conversation we had with somebody about oh yeah maybe it's not all of gen pop but there is a certain percentage that don't think much more deeply than your dog let's say yeah i mean we called them dog humans because i think i i had the example of uh my dog goes out sometimes and eats his own
Starting point is 00:14:19 shit and there are some humans I don't know if they but I wouldn't be surprised if that if that was their behavior so it was and I think that the point was it's really hard to reason with some people or you point you put out all this information or you make this statement or you make whatever and you're like confused some people just don't get it just missed the mark so completely and you're just like it can be frustrating so you just like you put something up or you want to make a stand or you want to make a statement on something that's important to you or you're passionate about or whatever and somebody so completely misunderstands it and turns it into like all fucking ego talking it's like what okay so that person is probably a dog human they're just so
Starting point is 00:15:11 fucking dumb, whatever intelligent point or statement or position you might take, they're never going to understand it because they're probably out eating their own shit when they're not commenting on your Instagram. Or the other example we use is people who
Starting point is 00:15:27 just repeat exactly what you said back to you. Repeat what you said back to you. Ha ha ha ha ha. Dude. Oh shit. Like that? And those are the guys in the movies who like the hero will say something, they'll repeat it back.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And then, yeah. So they don't have any original thoughts. So there are people like that too. They might not be eating their shit, but they're not going to have an original thought. They're going to mimic whatever. They'll eat your shit. They might. And that's great.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. I, my sister. I, my sister. Sister. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the point is we can. can't get too upset by some of the stuff because let's look at where it's originating.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah, I think I think that conversation came up because we were talking about AI and how maybe I was giving a little too much credit to Gen Pop, but I'm hopeful that the human race will value the imperfections, the touch of humans more than they will, the convenience of artificial intelligence. and this person was like absolutely not. There are people out there that want to eat their own shit. Yeah. No. It's I think some people, I don't know, when I'm just like fucking death scrolling,
Starting point is 00:16:57 like in perfect AI, you see these AI images of these girls, right? I get, I, somebody showed me one once. I've never seen them. It's not, it's like, I don't, it's not, it's not cool. I mean, it's not like, they're not hot like a real girl to me. It's not real. They're almost too perfect. Yeah, I mean, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Besides hentai, which I, you know, I'm a huge fan. I don't even know what, is that cartoon porn? It's the anime porn. Okay. I don't. I'm not up on all the new shit where, you know, the chicks have like six tits. What? Two heads.
Starting point is 00:17:37 People are into that. Okay. I'm even like. Did we have we talked about the fake tits? No. No. Fake tit phenomenon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:49 It's actually going to be listed in the new DSM6. It's like not fake tits aren't even cool anymore. No. It used to be like, oh, look. Oh, these are the guys who eat their dog. Yes. Look at her. Do you see those tits?
Starting point is 00:18:03 I'm not into the plastic and bullshit anymore. These are the same guys that are like, bro, Sidney's the hottest chick I've ever. I mean, she can't look pretty hot. I mean, okay. But those are definitely real. I mean, they look. I haven't seen them, but I've heard that they look real. Somebody told me they were nice and real.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But anyway, point is, I almost like, natural is better now. For sure it is. Like it's, it's, so I, that gives me hope. when we talk about AI because I I don't like to fake fucking puffed up lips that all the girls
Starting point is 00:18:50 look the same I like now I like thin lips because they're real that's kind of another problem I think in Hollywood too if you go back to like
Starting point is 00:18:58 the 80s or the 90s actresses and actress they all looked a bunch like super different and I'm not talking about diversity inclusion I'm talking about black gay guy women
Starting point is 00:19:09 we need to think they're hot too. I love black gay guy women. That's the, that's my type. I saw this commercial today is for shampoo. And it was this guy, I pretty sure it was a guy,
Starting point is 00:19:26 but looked kind of like a hot girl. I don't want guys to be perfect. If your eyebrows are perfect, get the fuck off my TV. Yeah, that's, speaking of Groyper's, that's another, well, that is a,
Starting point is 00:19:42 Gropers. Like, the perfect woman is a guy because women suck. I see, I'm not, I guess I'm not in that. I'm not in that crowd. I don't want guys to have sweaty balls. And to me, like, I can't think that that's like the same as a hot girl. That's, that reminds me. You know what I hate is when you're looking at a hot girl, well, I've never done this. But it's a somebody I know is looking at a hot girl. they've told me these stories. Looking at a hogger, it's a video. And they're only showing the top half. And then it pans down, and she's got a raging heart on it.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. I don't know about that part. I thought you were going to say you hate getting whisker burns on your inner thighs. That's what I thought you were going to say. No, I would never say something so disgusting. Yeah. Because you can just put, like, shaving cream on the aloe. make it better.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Oh, you know what the, so the, here's what I say. The guys who get so like, look at those tits. Dumb, right? Yeah. It reminds me of, and these are fake tits, not,
Starting point is 00:20:56 not Sydney sweetie tits. Yeah, okay. So let's not, I'm talking about the fink pop-up bicycle pump tits. It's like I'm still, I saw this thing the other day, talking about archery. It's like,
Starting point is 00:21:10 forgiveness us over speed. It's like, are we still talking about that speed is retarded? About how fast is your bow and how worthless that is? Oh, the PSC, Sicario, wherever the it is. It's so, you'll never hit shit, but it's going to be super fast. It's like, we cannot evolve past like what makes a good bow. You don't, you can't be like, oh, a more forgiving bow is better for hunting. We're still, it reminds me of the guys who are like, look at those tits. It's just like, it's just like, like they can focus on one thing. Tits or speed. That's it. Okay. How fake are those tits? How fast is your bow? It's like, God, are you guys retarded? It's an ego thing. It has to be right. It's just retarded
Starting point is 00:21:56 marketing. It's just like archery, we're still talking about speed and weight and like you talk about weight of a bow. Do you see how much shit I put on my bow? Who gives up how much the bow weighs? And I mean, to a certain extent, a heavier bow is better. It's way better. It's way better. That's just like common logic. If you pick something, you know, pick up a feather and look how much it moves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 You pick up something heavy. Yeah, it might be, it might hurt your little shoulder. I mean, you're shooting one time. I just don't understand. Yeah, I just, I mean, I get like when we first got into marketing and new products and speed was exciting and this and that. But over, it's been decades now, we don't know that a more forgiving, taller, bow, longer axle to axle, heavier arrow, more moderate speed is best for hunting. We don't know that yet still.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I like to, I'm a, I like to be a black and white thinker. Okay. So let's look at the extremes, right? The extreme of a super fast boat. How fast are you going to make it? I don't know, 400 feet per second? 500, 6. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:23:07 It's stupid and why. But look at the extreme of a forgiving bow, the extreme of that is way more beneficial than the extreme of a bow that can shoot 600 feet per second. Yeah. I mean, go get a crossbow or a gun. I know. It's a, I mean, yeah, I think it's interesting. But here's what, okay, this is another thing.
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Starting point is 00:25:03 off at grislycoolers.com with the code keep hammering and that's all one word and I'm not going to spell it keep hammering again keep hammering one word for 20% off don't roll with weak gear go I guess I need to go back and listen so Joe's texted me a few times on our elk season autopsy episode about going back through when you like the Hans and kind of what I and he just said he loves that podcast. And he just, just text me again today, how good it was. So I'm like, I need to go back and listen to whatever I did. I got to redo it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 But I don't know what it was. But I think just talking in detail, just long conversation about, I don't know, I mean, about decisions on the hunt, about important parts of the adventure. I'm not sure. I think it's just that realism resonates. We know that, of course. And maybe we're going away from the quick sound bites. Hopefully we're going away.
Starting point is 00:26:13 That's why I'm hoping AI doesn't really have the ills that we're worried about. I'm hoping people aren't really like that into it because it's not real. It's like I see, you know, music has taken on this AI thing. There's that one guy who's got all these country number one songs. It's like going to a concert and connecting with the artist, say with Ella Langley, I mean, her singing and delivering as a real person has got to be better than AI. It definitely is. Has to be. 100% is.
Starting point is 00:26:48 For art. So if it's true for art, which I have, okay, a beautiful woman has to be like art, right? It can't be. It's just an image on a screen, fake. just it can't be it's music is art women can be art running can be art archery can be art real has to win has to has to be better i think i think so the people who are putting out real shit i think are going to rise to the top yeah and i think that's always going to be the case i don't know if that any of that makes sense it does and what's interesting is last night i was laying in bed i was just about
Starting point is 00:27:24 asleep, about asleep, about, I was almost a sleep. I was close to sleep. Yes. And I was just sitting there, of course, my brain the way it is turned on. And I started to think about kind of this whole lore thing for the lore thing that I've talked about, whether people think it's gay or not. I was learning that today. But, you know, I started to think about how every ancient civilization has had people that they look to that are the keepers of those stories. The stories that came before them their story, what's happening, then to pass it on to future generations to carry those stories. Aesop was one. You know, the West African tribes had, I forgot the name of them.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So, yeah, anyways. Like storytellers or what? Storytellers, basically, yeah. And it made me think is like, who are the keepers of our stories now? who are carrying on the traditions and the stories of past generations and who's making them right now. And it's us. You are the keeper of your own story, especially in this day and age where all this technology exists and all this. You are responsible for your future generations and your family to carry your stories on.
Starting point is 00:28:40 So you better make them good. Yeah. And you better also make them real. Because when AI becomes so good in the future, it can make any story they want. The ones that will hold value are the ones that are real. and that people actually made themselves. So I feel like that's kind of along the same lines. It's like, you know, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:29:00 What are we valuing? Yeah. And I think that's why I think that realism will be of great value. Hope so. You know, that's what I think people talk about like hunting media in a negative way. And like say we're, you know, we're overexposing it or we're, I don't know, ruining it in some way. But to me, it's history. We are documenting history.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And I said this too. And I think on that podcast where we were recapping, say, Winnihan, we're recapping on this Hans. That was, I think we did that podcast before the film came out. Yeah. So I was hopeful that that film would be a part of, you know, and I always tell, I say this too. When I meet somebody new, I'm always like, what's your fucking story?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Right. Are you just, what do you do? Right. Tell me a story. So I like people with stories. Fucking real stories. I don't want to hear a fucking you went to the Rose Bowl and watched your two. The Ducks play.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. It's not a fucking. You didn't do shit. They did something. Yeah. That's their story. Yeah, exactly. You fucking watched it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 So what's your story? Not Disneyland. Not I don't give a, I don't care about Hawaii. I don't give a shit about any of that. I want to know a story. Tell me something you did, an experience you had. So to me, all these hunts, these experiences, what were, you know, your images from the Winaha hunt are,
Starting point is 00:30:31 so it might be maybe in a greater context, but for sure my family history is captured in those images. Tanner was there, my friends were there. People we hadn't shared the mountains worth were there. We got, we got that captured as a, time and history forever. Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:52 To me, that's a worthwhile story. We made a film on it. So when we're dead and gone, long gone, that film, the bow hunter, will live on. Right. And it's going to, to me, that's going to outweigh any contrived bullshit. Because it contrived bullshit never happened. No. There was never any bleeding.
Starting point is 00:31:14 There's never any being exhausted. There's never any sweating your dick off. None of that. Nothing happened. It was made up. Yep. All right. Might as well be fucking Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Star Wars, yeah, I can zone out for a few hours. I don't give a fuck about Star Wars. But a good film that can move me. That moves, that changes what it means in my brain to be a human. That's like as a human, another human did that. That's meaningful to me. Yeah. And I think, I mean, you know, I've seen arguments of people like,
Starting point is 00:31:49 well, okay, what about fiction? And my argument back to that is that it was written by a real person. And same with the keepers of the stories of every civilization. They are always going to add their creative bias to whatever it is their writing, how they interpret the world and then how they go forth in presenting that story will always have a personal touch to it. And so, sure, you can become inspired. I mean, the Iliad is based on a point in time. but there is a lot of fiction to that. And so, and it's one of the most inspiring stories people read.
Starting point is 00:32:26 But again, it is written by somebody who had real world experiences. So I think, I hope it'll always win when there is a human touch involved. But that's just my, I'm biased to say that
Starting point is 00:32:40 because I'm a storyteller. I'm a filmmaker and a photographer. So, you know, maybe I'm an asshole. Well, not maybe. You're not an asshole. But I do, yeah, I mean, I just, I just know as a consumer, I don't give a that AI.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, I agree. I mean, I don't. If you consume AI, you're a dog human. You're eating shit. I love documentaries. That's what I'm, I'm, I'm addicted to those. Speaking of which, I watch that one on, I can't pronounce her full name, but Manu. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Did I share it the other day? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she's a fucking. beast. Yeah, that was super cool. That was good. I mean, so that, that's a person going through shit, dude. And I loved, so, okay, with that film at the end of it, here's something that was fascinating with, so this is real. You only get this from a human. She could have ran, say, the last mile, I think it was. And I've been on that stretch. That,
Starting point is 00:33:47 you're ready to be done. Yeah. She did not want to run. I love that. Because she did not want it to be over yet. I love that part. Yeah. That's how she was,
Starting point is 00:33:56 she was like walking crooked. I know. Her body was so fucking up. And she's walking crooked. And still did not want that experience to end because it was so special. Because to get to the end of a 240 mile race, what you've went through and like you saw
Starting point is 00:34:11 what she went through, I think it's called Lone Wolf, that film. Yeah. is incredible. And to know that she did not want that pain to end, that gives me chills. Yeah. So that's when we talk about breaking from the masses,
Starting point is 00:34:27 so the masses will never have that experience. Okay, we talk about to be different, to be a lone wolf, to stand out to that very first example we had the beginning of this podcast, you're going to have to do things different. You're going to have to think different.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You're going to have to carry yourself differently. And you're going to have to make different decisions. Yep. She did. Yeah. That's what stands out in that film. Not the finish, not the start, not the whatever. That right there, that's human. That's her, but that's not just human. That's her as an individual. And her soul was speaking at that moment that, no, this is important to me. And this is like, this is all, this is my heart. Like, I want to share my heart right now. That's a documentary. Yeah. So you're never going to be able to contrive that some way.
Starting point is 00:35:14 by pixels on a screen. No. And say, show me a human digging deep. And they might come. It's like, shut the fuck up. That's not, there's no way that's going to be anything like her. And it has no meaning. No.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I mean, yeah, of course, she set the record for the triple crown for a woman. I think she bested it by 29 hours. Mm-hmm. And that's great. But what really stuck with me was that, the ending is like, she wanted to be alone. She wanted to sit in her thoughts and her feelings. And that last mile, she wanted it to last as long as possible.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And she even said in there, you know, it's like time is going by really slowly right now. And that's what I want. Yeah, she sent me that because I think I had mentioned, I put up something else that I love documentaries. And I can't remember. Oh, I think it was Killians. Yeah, we talked about her. Okay, is Killians.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Yeah, so I mentioned, or she listened to that podcast. think is what it was. And so then she said, if you like documentaries, maybe you'll like mine. And so she sent that to me. Yeah, I loved it. But it was made by Travis, right? Tom's. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, was it? I think so elevation. Was it? Yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, Ben was in there. Ben was her coach. It looked like, yeah, Ben's a stud. And he's just so like, I know, like just cutting dry. Yeah. Love Ben. I didn't know. Travis did it. Well, that, yeah, that doesn't surprise me. It was good, yeah, because he's a stud. I think another thing that we kind of glossed over,
Starting point is 00:36:47 and I didn't really go over it, but do you remember Killian talking about his experience with his ultras and the 200s? About all the time he's fucking had to go to the hospital and shit. I mean, he mentioned to me, thanks for covering, you know, I think that one podcast who did was called Ultra Risk. And it was about the risk that you go through on these multi-day big efforts.
Starting point is 00:37:12 and we didn't even really go back to what he explained, but he's had a lot of like serious. I mean, you're pushing your body hard and in the hospital. Failures. Yeah, it's like this is one of the best 200-mileers ever. And still he had to go through the fire to get to where he is and a lot of failing, a lot of like hard challenges, a lot of health issues.
Starting point is 00:37:41 and he's the best, you know, one of the best ever do it. So doesn't come to anybody easy. No, no. I think that's the point I wanted to, to, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if I want to emphasize it. I just wanted to share it, but I thought about it. We never really talked about it after he mentioned it on the podcast. Yeah, I feel like we've, you know, been touching on this a lot lately, but especially with
Starting point is 00:38:07 Truitt is like you have big goals. You know, it's like what we talked about with jelly roll. you know, you have big goals, you're going to fail. Yeah. And I think on the last shit Tucker is that not the one that we canned, but the one that aired, you know, you mentioned that story of jelly roll talking to Truit about, you know, he could have sold out a smaller venue with only 5,000 people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Or done a bigger venue that could seat 15,000, but only have 10,000 in there. And he chose to go for the bigger goal. Yeah. And that's just, you know, dream big. Why not? instead of the safe bet yeah yeah um no i know that and that's i mean that's how you make your name yeah anybody who we follow we admire we look up to it's not because they took the the safe route or made the easy bet or the you know the it's like they wanted the biggest challenge uh the biggest
Starting point is 00:39:02 opportunity for failing and to see what they you know see if they got what it takes yeah i had this conversation the other day with my girlfriend actually when I found out she signed me up for 100K, but it was like goals and things in my life that scare me make me excited because that's like, I mean, if you're not a little bit scared, at least for me, where's your motivation coming from? You know, it's put yourself out there and it is what it is, but your goal should scare you.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I think that's good. I think it's healthy. Yeah. Because if not, then you're playing it too safe. I was thinking about her signing you up for the 100K. That is a big challenge. Yeah. So either she thinks, so here you tell me how this works.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Does she think you need to take bigger chances? Or does she think you're capable of more? Well, I think. Or does she want you to be a beast? What she said is. Uh, since you talk so much shit on fake ultras, 50Ks, it's time for you to run a real run. Oh, so she's calling you out kind of. Yeah. Yeah. So it's time to run with the adults is what she said. Oh, shit. Well, 100K will be, I think you're going to be in the middle of that and you might be go might be, it's going to be a good test for your relationship.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Oh, that's what I told her. I said, these 50Ks like when you see me and I'm in good spirits and it's, fun and you can joke around. It's not going to be like that. No, I mean, 62 miles is the real deal. I said, I'm going to get to a point and probably not that far into it where I want to quit and you cannot let me quit. What's the time limit? Do you know? Well, there's also a hundred mileer and it's under 30 hours. So I don't want to be out there for 30 hours running 100K. I wouldn't. Yeah, so that so there's no 100K time limit then. I don't think so. Okay. Yeah. So and again, it's a, it's like a 10K loop and there's not a ton of game. Elevation.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Yeah. So. Yeah. That'd be good. Yeah. We'll see. I mean, I got a lot of work ahead of me.
Starting point is 00:41:17 That's for sure. But it's nice to have, especially with, you know, wanting to do the picnic to have that also kind of in the interim. So it's like, you know, that's a good gut check.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah. It's like, okay, you're supposed to be super fit. So if you can't do that, you might as well just kill yourself. Can you do 62 miles in one go? That's what we're going to find out.
Starting point is 00:41:38 We are going to find out. That's for sure. Sure. That's, you know, I'm not, I'm going to line up. I'm going to try. And I'm not saying, I definitely don't think it's going to be, I'm not going to say I'm going to do it. No, it's a, here's what I'm going to say. You can do it. It's going to, how hard you train is going to determine whether you finish or not. For sure. Like right now, it'd be tough. Oh, just to show up. Not happening. You got six months or whatever the hell it is.
Starting point is 00:42:10 You got six months. If you, it's hard. It's supposed to be hard. But if you train and put in the, get the miles in, you'll be good. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:19 taking a page out of somebody's book that I know, train hard, race easy. There you go. There you go. That's it. It's,
Starting point is 00:42:29 yeah, that's still, I mean, still a ways. I watched, I did watch it. I love watching documentaries, but I watch a lead film.
Starting point is 00:42:37 one today just on some guy. I don't even know who the hell it was. But yeah, it's just fun seeing people go through what they go through. And he barely, I think, made the, is 30 hours at Leadville? Yeah. Right? Yeah. He made it. He finished. But it was close. Yeah. But still, it's like watching somebody just go through the ups and downs, a roller coaster of an extreme physical test like that is always, always stimulating TV. I mean, I love watching. It's real. Yeah. I think. where I struggle is, and this is probably something a lot of people do, but I like the idea of getting to a point where, you know, the pain is so, so great and I want to quit and finding out who I am after that. I like that idea. But the training that needs to come beforehand to do that justice is where
Starting point is 00:43:28 it's like, yeah, you got six months. Okay, well, I need all, every single day of those six months get prepared. And I think a lot of people struggle with that, you know, whatever. But I'm definitely taking it serious, that's for sure. Oh, that's good. Now, I think if you do that, you're going to be fine. Because you've done 50Ks, a couple 50Ks, you've been on, you know, went on all that was tough. You've been, you've had gut checks.
Starting point is 00:43:53 So now you just, next level is how we do it. Yeah. And so stay tuned for when I do it. And then I say 100Ks aren't real. Oh, yeah. I saw, you even wrote Killian to sort of saying that. Yeah. And he probably got some hate for that.
Starting point is 00:44:10 But yeah, that, I don't know. It's going to be great. I love it. I love that people are doing this. I love that you're doing it. It's just you just learn so much about yourself, which in regular life, it's really easy to just get through and not really have these gut checks. You know, sometimes life gives us these. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Like you get fired. your old lady cheats on you, you know, with the garbage man. What do we say garbage man? I said garbage man last time too. But you have some experiences with garbage men? I don't know. But yeah, I mean, so life will fuck you over. And that's not the same as signing up for a big test and having to push through and learn
Starting point is 00:45:02 about, you know, how you navigate situations like that, but it's going to be awesome. Yeah. I love it. Voice crack. Who? I just had one. Oh, you did? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Speaking of all. Wait. Oh, no, it's not this one. That's okay. We have our, I talked about our all love merch on the last one, how pissed I was about it. And that I got cut to. Yeah. But just know that we're going to have some all.
Starting point is 00:45:31 It's all love. No, we're going to have some shit talkers. weekly merch at some point. And what I did say is it seems like I pay people a lot of money to work. I need them to work. So if you want to work, let me know because I'm having a hard time getting shit done the right way. Yeah. You guys know there's tons of job listings up. Go apply to them. And we are, what else you got there? I got a lot. Oh, you do? We haven't. We haven't in really gotten to any of the other stuff we talked about. But we could take our ad break because I do have to talk about that again.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Oh, fuck. Is this like, are you getting in the mood? I'm gonna, should I be, I'll talk like Morgan Freeman. Okay. I'm Morgan Freeman. I thought you're Randy Newberg. Oh yeah. That was like, that was fucking good, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And Randy, it's all love. I love you. Yeah, every loves uncle, Uncle Randy. Yeah. No, okay. So if you're, uh, not like you're, uh, Not like your uncle that used to touch you. Well, it's all love with him, too.
Starting point is 00:46:39 He did that at a lot. Okay. That wasn't Uncle Randy, was it? Okay. No, that's just, we, this, that's normal, he told me. But don't tell anyone. His favorite game to play was, let's see if my pinky fits here. That's, that's a good game.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yeah, that sounds fun. Can your ear? What happens under the blanket? Yeah. These are fun. No, if you're a person that really loves New Year's resolutions, two things. One, you're a pussy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And two, we've got an web-based app coming out. It's not on iOS yet, so it's not like a phone app. Nobody cares, work harder. Lift, run, shoot, challenge. This is the first time of hearing of this. Other than... Well, I figured. Except the last time you said it yesterday. Was it yesterday?
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah, yesterday. That we're not promoting. But at that time, I had never heard about it, and I still haven't. Oh, good. Other than that time. Yeah. So this is just basically we're building a community of people that want to hit goals every day, get their lifting, get their run in, get their shoot in,
Starting point is 00:47:56 and all be a part of like, in a community of like-minded individuals. Wow. By the way, the first time I heard about it was like four. days ago too. Okay. So why why tell me anything? Yeah, it's all good. Yeah. But point is, if you are a pussy who waits for the first of the year to make positive changes, we're here for you. Yeah. And if you need help. We'll help you. Yeah. But don't wait. If you're listening to this on December, whatever the hell day it is, start today. Get a jump start on that shit. Why are you waiting? But whatever. If you, we are a community.
Starting point is 00:48:35 of like-minded people. We want to help you. We want you to live a better, healthier, more fulfilled life. And if we can, if you need a little kick in the, right in the tush, right in the butt plug, we're here for that. Don't get us. You know, like I always say, butt plugs are like Christmas trees. No, butts, but holes are like Christmas trees.
Starting point is 00:48:58 But, yes, that's what I said. They need ornaments. That's what I said. Yeah, that was on the Patreon one that got cut. And that was the best line of it. I know. And it just doesn't hit the same when you have to resay it. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:49:13 But you guys should have been there. Yeah. Okay. So the second reel of that guy mentioned earlier, H. Miller 76, he talked about toxic masculinity. Oh, okay. And he said that men should be toxic, whatever you want to say that, but they should be extreme. And the reason being is yin and yang. that the yin and yang symbol is not this gray wash an amalgamation no clear lines blurred blurb of gray it is stark black with stark white
Starting point is 00:49:47 and inside each of those things is a little piece of each color so men should be extreme men and women should be extreme women. And together, they work. Yeah. Which I agreed with. And like I said, you know, there's a little piece in both, but we're not doing the man that's kind of a woman and a woman that's kind of a man.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I spoke about this with Jordan Hill. She did this podcast here. I'd let her use a studio. So it was me and her the other day. And I talked about that, yeah, I'm all down. I am toxic and masculine and yeah, that's the way it goes. I think men have a specific role to fill in society. I think they're providers, protectors.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I think, you know, we have to make tough decisions. We have to be leaders. That's what a man is. And I think a woman has just as important of a role, but it's different. It's they're loving, they're motherly, they're supportive. They're beautiful. They're strong. They can also, you know, lead the family.
Starting point is 00:50:55 when the man isn't here, but I think there's very specific roles that a man and a woman feel in society and they're good at different things. And it takes both together to the yin and yang. I get it. It's like together, they are stronger than apart.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And a man should not be a fucking woman. A woman should not be a fucking man. We are different. It's just, that's just the way it goes. And that's okay. And some of the strongest people are no are women. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I mean, they are incredible. I'm inspired by women every day, but not for the same reasons I'm inspired by strong men. They're different reasons. Right. They're different. And it's like I can be inspired. I can want to be this, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:45 what I look at as a man and be a man to the best of my ability to lead my family, to lead men at work, to lead maybe followers, this and women need to lead in different ways and be part of society in a different way and I'm never going to be as loving as a woman right that's not my role no I'm never going to be as supportive and comforting as a woman it's never going to happen but women can't do what I do either and that's that's fine yeah that's how it works you look close enough at that yin and yang and you'll
Starting point is 00:52:23 see, you know, in the women's section is the kitchen and a vacuum. I remember, yeah, I think I know where the kitchen is. The laundry. Come on. I don't know. Yeah, you wouldn't. You wouldn't, you know, because that's not in your section. Somebody said something about the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm like, I don't remember the last time I was at a grocery store. Yeah. In the men section are Sydney Sweeney's tits. Yeah, it's just, you know, we share the same existence, but we have different roles. Exactly. Yeah. So people will get it. Nah, I doubt it.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I need to adjust my. Yeah. And men, don't be grooming your eyebrows. What are doing? And don't have like a seven-step skincare routine. Yeah. Unless you're, it's American science. go in your, who is that?
Starting point is 00:53:26 Christian Bale. Yeah, unless you're Christian Bail. Yeah. Then his skin care routine is tits. Oh, I said something like a dinner yesterday. Was yesterday Christmas? No. Day before.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Oh. I said something about a dinner about something with tits. And I guess. That's not. Guess you can't say that. Well, it depends what you were saying it about. I think the rolls? Oh.
Starting point is 00:53:51 They probably were tits. They were. They were great. Sourdough. Who got mad at you? I think it was just like... That's not Christmas language. Something. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah, we weren't allowed to cuss. You weren't at Christmas?
Starting point is 00:54:05 No, that's not Christmas language. Oh, so that was where that term came from. Yeah. Christmas language. Yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah, see, I'm not very good at that. We couldn't say... Yeah, speaking of Christmas language, we had a...
Starting point is 00:54:17 It's supposed to be the Haines family bench off. and so we had the pastor of our church invite himself. You got infiltrated. Yeah, by, yeah, church family. Is he from Israel by chance? That's why he took over. Okay. I don't think he is.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Yeah, so begrudgingly, we let him partake in our contest. And unfortunately, he dominated. Has there been a consensus yet of if that counts? Well, he beat me so it doesn't count. Yeah, okay. No, fucking strong. Yeah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:55:02 20 reps of 225. Yeah, pretty impressive. And I think I'm never one to make excuses about age, weight, intelligence, which I lose on all those. But he did walk. in looking pretty thick. So I asked, what are we weighing these days? 2.30. And I know when I got on scale that morning, I was 160. So 70 pounds. You know, might make a difference. When you weigh more than what you're benching, that's not really fair. Yeah, exactly. I think, I mean, you always got to do
Starting point is 00:55:46 225, but maybe there's a reason to do, you know, weight. Body weight. Yeah. Body weight. See, I did my body weight the other day 25 times, which, you know, wasn't too bad. But, uh, too much. So my body. The problem is Tanner's weight in, what, 170?
Starting point is 00:56:05 Yeah. God, he could bust those fucking out because he did 17 of 225. Yeah, he's strong. Um, and then Truit, he's going on his marathon. He's not lifting at all, which I think this is a good time to talk about that, you know, body weight and strength are, when you're in shape are so closely related. You cannot, it's really hard to weigh,
Starting point is 00:56:31 Cruz's in the 150s now trying to get that fast marathon. And when he was 180, I think last year he did 15 reps, training all the time, lifting all the time, 15 reps. Now he's close to 30 pounds less, he did four. That's how it works. Yeah. That's just how it works. Mass moves mass.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And so it's really hard to be light, have a lot of endurance, and be very strong. Yeah. That is tough. It's a tough matter. But that's where we're always trying to get to. You're never going to be your strongest when you're your lightest. You're never going to be your fastest when you're your heaviest. So we're trying to just marry both.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah. And I don't think reping 225 for four and running a sub-230 marathon is anything to scoff at. No, that's impressive. But Rick Reeves, 20 reps on the 225 bench, very impressed. And he also seems weird for a pastor to be able to talk as good as shit as he does. But he does talk shit. He was like asking where his belt was. So I'm like, respect.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Yeah, that's impressive. Respect to the man of the cloth. And the Israel thing was just a joke, guys. So don't. So, ninyahu, please. Please. It's just all fun and games here. Well, speaking of which, I saw a government official and a public forum.
Starting point is 00:58:02 It was right at the end of this basically, whatever they hold counsel or whatever. Anyways, he basically took the, what's the saying? What's the Gideom? He blew the doors off. What was it? on the World Health Organization. Oh, really? And how it is a group of, I think he said, like 15 to 20 individuals who are organized criminals.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And since it's forming in World War II, basically, their sole purpose has been to profit off of the people. And not to help the people, but instead make them sick, get them to, subscribe to the idea that they need certain things and take advantage of the large majority of the people in the world. They're doing a great job. Clearly. Yeah. And he had, I mean, he had proof and things that they had written that they had signed off on,
Starting point is 00:59:10 kind of a bombshell. And to be honest with you, I fully believe it because, like, COVID and all this. And I don't know. vaccines, all the prescriptions for all the shit that basically just keeps you sick and ill. I mean, I saw another study that the gene that we carry P53 is a gene that helps with basically warding off cancer cells. Elephants have eight of them. Elephants never get cancer. We have one of them.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And COVID, after some studies has been shown to basically knock that gene down. Mm-hmm. So most susceptible to cancer. Exactly. Yeah. That's what they want. Yeah. The more you're reliant on the medical system or health care or whatever,
Starting point is 01:00:01 the more money they're all making, they don't give a how miserable you are. No. Get your prescriptions. I mean, have you ever been over like before a holiday and look at like the pharmacy? And people stacked up. So many people relying on those drugs, they're just writing prescriptions, salesmen come, in from these drug companies. Oh, here's this new thing. It's like, why, why is there commercials for medicine on TV? It's like your doctor doesn't know what you need. We're also
Starting point is 01:00:30 one of the only countries that does that. Yeah. It's like, so if you go in, you're not feeling well, shouldn't your doctor, are you like, hey, I saw this commercial. Can I try it? It's like, it's fucking insane. What are we doing? So it's just a, it's just a money laundering. scheme. It's like, how do we take money from these rich people and take it from them? Or even the poor people. How do we take their money? Yeah. And we're all high on the hog, right? All these, the people, the elites or whoever the, runs this world screwing over the regular people. That's just how it works nowadays. So being reliant on anyone is not the way to happiness for sure. So I think we've, What we've learned and kind of what we show and we talk about in these films is like the running, the hunting, all of it.
Starting point is 01:01:26 You're out. You're basically your destiny's in your hands. You're in control. You're making decisions. That's how we're intended to live. All this society thing where we're reliant on people to provide us with all this shit. Man, it's like I don't want to throw like a slave or whatever. I'm not trying to.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I don't want to hear about reparations or anything. shit but we're essentially in slaves you know i don't i don't people get upset i'm not saying we're slaves like back in the whenever it was but we're slaves to the people who run the to the system to the world to the system right now we we it's hard to break out and we get tricked into being okay with it yeah that's what's scary is like some people don't even realize they're bound by chains. They're bound by chains of the system, whether it's health restrictions, whether it's money making people into consumers, where it's just like all you think about is what you can buy, you know, Instagram, social media, they do the thing. Like, it's like you're always competing.
Starting point is 01:02:33 It's always like this way to accumulate, like how do we accumulate more, better cars, bigger houses, more money, accumulate more, more, more. They trick us into this. So we've become a slave to that. And it's like, that's not the path to happiness. That's not the to fulfillment. It's not that. What it is is get into nature, get into the mountains, get some fresh air in your lungs, get out of these fluorescent lights and live. That's where happiness lies.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And that's really the only thing you have control over. That's it. It's like, I don't know. Yeah, it can be depressing, but also it can be, it can be enlightening to realize there's more out there. And all we're trying to do is share that. And hopefully, you know, we have Spike Kent coming up. We have these things that we do.
Starting point is 01:03:29 We have these films that we share, this life that we want to highlight. And you can do it too. Anything we're doing you can do also. And so it's nice to have these events like Spike Camp coming up that my brother puts on to be able to get out there and just share. the community and just feed off each other. Yeah. And that's what we need.
Starting point is 01:03:49 That's what society needs more than anything is a strong, vibrant community of people lifting each other up and believing in each other and just breaking away from these chains that I spoke of. Yeah. I mean, it might not be completely doable in your lifetime, but at least you can take control of some aspect of your life. You can. You can change your whole.
Starting point is 01:04:14 life. I mean, jelly rolls, we've talked about this plenty of times, but in two years, he's become a different person. And so if he can do it with all that he had to overcome, the drug addictions, to overweight, the being incarcerated, everything he's had to overcome. And now he's like a successful bow hunter in two years and he's down, you know, half his body weight. It's insane. Yeah. And so if he can do it, you can do it. If I can do it, you can do it. All we're trying to do, we're trying to sell the good stuff we're not we're not trying to sell this some unachievable lifestyle that you see on social media this is good shit get out there and fucking walk on dirt walk on rocks get out there get get get wet in the rain touch grass loser maybe that needs to be a shirt touch my wiener okay what go for grass
Starting point is 01:05:08 why did I say why did I say that you know what they say for the stars land on my week that's it I mean hey it's still will win. Win, win. It's still a win. Yeah. Win, win, win. My wiener really wins.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I was speaking of winning. Did we talk about this? We haven't. That was the next. Oh, good. Yeah. Books and things and writing. So here's what's crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Well, this is not where it started. Book Club. But this was a second start. First start, Bowling and Trophy Blacktail. Probably got like five. of them left. But this has done really good. But not like, I've got to give a shout out to Spotify. Because Spotify went balls deep on me this year. They put undeniable is what, what was this? was this number two? Number two nonfiction books worldwide. Worldwide. That's crazy. Not just
Starting point is 01:06:17 nonfiction. That's insane. No. Undeniable. Number three or number two nonfiction worldwide. And Endure. This has been out since 2022. Endure was number three of all sports books in the U.S. So been out three years. Still number three on Spotify. This is number two of all books worldwide. Spotify. Thank you. So and really it's not Spotify. Spotify. Gives me the platform. Of course, McMillan publishing, or wait, was it McMillan? Yeah. Yeah. McMillan publishing gave me the opportunity.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Spotify gave me the platform. But you guys, you guys bought these things. The only reason I know it's McMillan is from when you were doing the reading. I know, I couldn't say. McMillian? No, it was, I can say McMillan. I can say McMillan. I can't say McMillan, McMillian, Australia.
Starting point is 01:07:15 See? it's like when you combine the Australia it's like I see McMillan I'm good yeah all day right is it McMillan McMillan McMillan McMillan's Australia publishing no that's see that you know who my publisher is St. Martin's Press so McMillan did the audio oh that's what it was okay so St. Martin's is my publisher they're the ones who got behind me and these books have kicked ass so thank you What are they doing behind you? Yeah. Woo.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Just the good stuff. And for those of you that don't understand how hard it is to get on a worldwide list, think about Pajit in India. He writes a book. All he's got to do is go to three of his neighbors and he's got a million people who are interested. You know, it's easy. I guess it's easy to write a book. It's not easy to make people want to buy a book. I don't know if it's easy to write a book either.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Well, here's the thing. there's a lot of books out there most books of course don't most authors never make back their advance most books don't sell over 5,000 copies that's just like 90 95% of books never sell and um so it's hard getting people everybody believes in their story everybody thinks they have this great story to tell and maybe you do but to make people care about that story is tough yeah So I feel very grateful that, you know, so many people, I mean, how could anybody have anticipated that undenialed be number three in the world? Two. Two in the world.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I keep fucking that up. Number two in the world and endure number three of sports books. It's like you could never have anticipated that. Yeah. And I think, you know, we got to give a shout out to our shit talkers weekly listeners because, of course, it's all of them. but I did a little digging last year, or this year, I guess, technically. We had 240 listens just on YouTube. So all you shit-eating dog humans.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Thank you. Thank you for eating shit and listening to this retarded podcast. No shit. But that's hardly anybody like listens on YouTube compared to Spotify. I mean, most of our podcasts are listened to. For sure. If that's that many views, the listens have got to be quadruple that. I mean, it's got to be over a million listens for sure.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Which is wild. I mean, I saw a kind. This is how I know you guys are shit eaters because I saw a comment the other day on one of the YouTube videos. It was like, I've been looking for Gideon's photography on online and Instagram. Can't find it. Are you retarded? Yeah. I'm not even going to answer.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I'm not even going to tell you where to find it because you don't deserve. Well, and people ask, you know, I put up like, hey, podcast with Jollyroll. people are like, where do we listen? It's like, I, it seems like I post a lot. I'm pretty sure if you had any ability at all
Starting point is 01:10:23 to do any research on your own, how could you say, what's Cameron Hayes' podcast called? Why don't you go into your little AI platform? Yeah. And type in, where do I listen to Cameron Haynes podcast? Here's what's, here's,
Starting point is 01:10:37 I was thinking about this too the other day when I think about books. It's like, and this kind of ties into the AI stuff. Because if you could make like the perfect story, right? If the, if you're like, hey, AI, write the perfect book, wouldn't people do that? Yeah. And wouldn't you sell that? And wouldn't you sell a million copies?
Starting point is 01:10:57 So apparently it's not that easy to make shit that people care about. No. Because people might say like, well, magazines have kind of went by the wayside, right? but why is there bookstores still teeming with books and people are still in the bookstores buying books that's the most outdated i mean books have been around for a long time yeah and there's still a place for them so it tells me the fake shit i don't know i think real stories as those are real stories and endure all in any book i read people are still buying them. And they can watch their fake movies,
Starting point is 01:11:41 look at their fake girls on AI, and still people are buying and reading books. Yeah, that's a good point. Have you ever watched like a film and it's, you know, it's something that could have happened and you get excited to look up, did this, you know, is this based on a true story? When it is, you're like, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Oh, yeah, it means more. Yeah. It means more. So not the, you know, one of my favorite films This is Backdoor Sluts 11. Great production, you know, fake story. But is that, I mean, your mom was in that? It's just family supporting family.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I mean, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. It seemed like a, yeah, I recognized. I mean, I didn't see it. Right. I saw the poster, the movie poster. The credits. That's what, right.
Starting point is 01:12:30 That was. That's what it was. That's what it was. And, I mean, Obviously, I remember I looked up, I think the first time that I was, that point was driven home was, I had to look up to verify Rocky was real. Rocky three, I was like, did this happen? Did Rocky three? Yeah, it did happen.
Starting point is 01:12:54 It happened. Is Rambo a true story? Yes, of course. Of course. Yeah, he saved everyone. Yes. And he pulled a helicopter out of the sky with his own arms. He did.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah. So, I mean, we know that those real, that's history. Right. That's why I like Iron Man so much. Because it happened? Yeah. Yeah. That's why I like Baywatch. Yeah. Because of David Hasselhoff.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Man, did you ever see that clip of him drunk on the floor? No. Ooh. He's like drunk on the floor, I think eating a hamburger, calling his daughters a fat bitch or something. Yeah. That is priceless. Well, you better pull that out. Maybe that's AI.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Maybe let's look. If it is AI that, I feel bad that they targeted David Hasselhoff. No, this is old Hasselhoff. Drunk. Wait, wait, wait. Drunk daughter talk. Let's see if this comes up. Macy, we might have to cut this down a little bit.
Starting point is 01:14:05 David Hasfell drunk daughter talk refers to a 2007 leaked video where his in teenage daughter, Taylor Hassel tried to intervene as her intoxicated father stumbled around, pleading with him to stop drinking because his career is at risk, a situation expert experts criticized as putting the child in a parent's role, Hassel Hoff himself had to ask his daughter to film him during relapses to understand the severity, but critics argue is irresponsible. That's like a star is born. It gets on stage and pisses himself. Yeah, I know. Look it up for fun. Yeah. Good family time. Yeah. Put it on the big screen.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Airplay your phone. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. How did that come up? Oh, Baywatch. Baywatch. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And the goat, Pam Anderson. Speaking of documentaries. Let's bring it full circle. That's a fucking sick documentary. Speaking of fake tense. Pam and Tommy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:13 So anyway. Yeah, she's like the godmother of fake tits. Are they? No, the first ones, the first versions. Yeah, the first versions were real. I think, yeah. I think since then she's gotten a couple other iterations. Yeah, no, I know, that happens.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I wish... System updates. I wish the girls would lay off the plastic surgery. Yeah. If you take one thing from this podcast, even though our demographic is probably 0.5% female, Yeah, but don't go fake. But the ones that listen are right or die.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Yeah, and if you need some consultation, listen, my lines are always open. We got the new keep hammering panties coming out. Keep hammering panties and bras, the matching outfit, matching accessories. Yeah, right. And if you need fitting advice. Right now we only have male models. Which? So if we, if we, once these come out, if you could send us, if we could offer some feedback on fit.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And, uh, if that would help in any way, we're happy to do that. That's just, that's just, that's just who we are. Listen, we're busy guys, but we will find time in our schedules. For the people that need us. Right. Didn't you mention your girlfriend's brother the other day? What was that about? Well, that was a joke.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Oh, can we have that joke again? Yeah. Oh, what was it? Why is Santa's sack so big? Was this his joke? Yeah. This is what he told. This might have been the reason we got put into timeout with Christmas language.
Starting point is 01:16:56 But so why is Santa's sack so big? Because he only comes once a year. Oh, gotcha. I get it. Drew. I asked him today. I said, well, we have to re-record. So give me another joke.
Starting point is 01:17:08 And he gave me that one that got cut. That was his other joke? Okay. Well, Drew's racist. Yeah. And anti-Santa. Anti-Santa. Anti-Santa. Anti-straight.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Is he? Is he gay? Yeah, he might be. No, he's not gay. Oh. He's going to be regretting a shout-out. This is what happens. You ask for a shout-out. Hey, you got to take the good and the bad.
Starting point is 01:17:42 It's all love. Yeah. Oh, that's right. It is all love. It's all love. So, Drew, don't take a personal. Yeah. Well, okay, I think this one's going to make it out.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Yeah. It might not be as funny as the other ones, but I feel like we talked about good things. Gay. I know. Gay. We need to be, it needs to be. I thought we were going to be funnier. But what happened?
Starting point is 01:18:07 We got too serious. We got, yeah. Talking about AI and all that bullshit. it. But it's all good. We get this out. We had to let, I think the last episode was jelly roll, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:19 It's good to have that one out because it's such a great episode. Yeah. So you can't butt that up with joking for five minutes about butt holes and butt plugs. And Christmas light butt plugs. And what is the, what are the frilly? The icicles? Garland. Is that what it's called?
Starting point is 01:18:38 Probably. The, you know, the ropes that have like all the. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, could, oh, I know. Like with garland on it? I'm going to somehow attach a mistletoe above my butt. I don't know why I wouldn't just like say, attach it to my belly button.
Starting point is 01:19:01 That would make more sense. Nope. That's not what you said. No, I, okay. So there you go. I'll, I'll see. I'll meet you under the mistletoe. Ah, that's.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Okay. Well, thank you for coming so prepared, so professional to this to shit talkers weekly. We expect this to happen, but no cumberbunt. A cumberbone would cover up your mistral blood there. A cumberbund bun. Cumberbblis brittal butt. But, yeah, that, but I appreciate the professionalism. Oh, that, that's just your mom's menstrual blood. See, that's a good deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I like that. That's real. Yeah, that's sick. All right, guys, this is a Keep Kramarin Collective, number 18. No, no, no, no, no, no. Shit Talkers Weekly 18 with Kraman and Gideon. Here's, just real quick, we got 18 of these done this year. I think we can do more next year. I think we need to be in the 20s.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Are these sponsors still involved in this? They love this. Yeah. Look at the views. Look at the community. I know, that's true. We're inspiring people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:17 to meet under my mistletoe. Except I will take a shower first. I think I might take a shower tonight. I think you should ask. Yeah. Maybe they don't want it showered. Oh, that's true. They could want it marinated.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Seasoned. It's like a good cast iron. I know. I was just, yeah, okay. I'm just going to let that go. Okay. Let's see you guys in the next one. Keep cramering.
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