Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 182 - Sh*tTalkers Weekly 22

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode where we discuss memorable moments from Seattle Supercross, Truett and Max Jolliffe’s viral handshake photo, Olympic highlights like Alysa Liu�...�s excellence and the U.S. hockey victory, and broader political and historical propagandas. Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – An Award from a Customer, Death Threats, & Israel 00:10:00 – Seattle Supercross: Flaming Arrow & a Thank You to Neil Storz 00:15:23 – Cameron McAdoo’s Athlete Ability 00:16:39 – Charlie Lawrence: $50,000 to Break the Backyard Ultra Record 00:20:35 – Max Jolliffe & Truett Hanes Viral Handshake Photo 00:29:32 – A Connection to Nature & Wildlife 00:32:42 – Alysa Liu Olympics Excellence 00:37:16 – Olympics U.S. Hockey Win & Trump’s Speech 00:40:50 – Political Propaganda 00:45:36 – The U.S. Military: Is it Worth Serving Anymore? 00:50:47 – American History & Regime Changes 00:57:38 – McKay Nelson: Sub-3 Marathon in 90 Days 01:00:10 – NEW Elk Heaven T-Shirt - Win an Elk Hunt 01:01:15 – Ian Larios’ Injury Running 460km Around Bali 01:02:24 – Hilary and Bill Clinton Testimonies 01:06:22 – ROKA Sunglasses Shoutout 01:08:24 – Andy Glaze: Smile or Your Doing it Wrong 01:10:16 – Chito Vera’s Fight & Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 10% your order Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off

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Starting point is 00:03:33 You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. I practice my lines. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Are we live? We're live. This is the Keep Hammering Collective.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Do we know what shit talkers episode this is? 22. 22. Okay. We call that in the business. Double deuses. Yeah. I don't know if we do that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I don't know in what business, but... Yeah. Well, you might remember a long time ago, we got nominated for a nomination. Mm-hmm. Did we win? Look at this. Did we win?
Starting point is 00:04:13 The Dundee Award. Nice. What does that mean? It's really nice. That's from the office, the Dundees. So we won? So we won an award. Is this?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Like, so is this an actual, is this an Oscar or something different? This is from a listener. Oh. And he wrote a note, Cole Zimmerman and the Zimmerman family. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I'm going to read these. These are really nice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:38 He added both in here at the end just to make me feel included, so that's nice. But really, it's just to you. Yeah, for sure. Okay. After hearing you guys joke about being nominated for a nomination for an Academy Award, also an Oscar, we learned that. It gave me an even better idea, a Dundee award. Too bad we couldn't present it out of Chili's.
Starting point is 00:04:59 We're super excited for Shit Talker's merch when it comes out too. This is a while ago. Been a huge fan for the last three years, so I'm super glad to be able to send this to you guys. And yes, our son was partially named after Cam. I'm not a psycho fan, I promise. It's just I like the name. We both agreed on it, and I liked that it would have some meaning. Thank you both for being such inspirations.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Is this what you do when you're up there and somebody's like accepting it? The other person has to be like, yeah. Now, from the wife, this is a PS. Okay. She didn't include both. This has nothing to do with me. Okay. I've started reading Endururr during my son's nap time and I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 00:05:41 You've really gotten my ass into gear since having my son and made me realize there's no excuse to continue on the path of laziness. I'm currently three months postpartum running every day along with strength training and I feel better now than I did before. giving birth. Can't wait to hear or no wait can't wait to order undeniable and shit talker's merch. Thank you for being an inspiration to quit being a loser with excuses and to work harder. Haley Zimmerman. A 24 year old mom leaving excuses in the past. That is nice. I know that those that's a cool family right there. Thank you. Zimmerman family. Well I think you need to have a acceptance speech like Matthew McConaughey. What did he say? How many times you jerk off a day? Those are rookie numbers.
Starting point is 00:06:33 That kind of screwed up the thankfulness. Oh. Anyway. I thought that was cool. He was like, oh, I want to send you this. And I'm like, please don't send a bomb. Yeah. We got enough death threats coming in. Yeah. So. And not just for me, but for my family too. That's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:06:55 That was cool. Yeah. I think that's a real manly thing to do. Yeah. And he called me a coward. Was that what it was? I think so. For having a civil discussion with somebody that he didn't like. And maybe I had some issues with, you know, wanted to just sit down and see where she's coming from.
Starting point is 00:07:14 This is Valentina Gomez. And it's like, is that a problem? We can't just sit and talk civil discussions. Here's what I don't get, right? So I'm guessing he doesn't like her for some of her hot takes on certain. ethnic groups. Yeah. So in response, you threaten to kill somebody in their family. Seems pretty normal. Yeah. In what world does that logic make sense? Oh, I guess this world nowadays, because it's a free for all. I cannot believe all the shit going on in this country.
Starting point is 00:07:52 In the world. I just don't even, I'm ready to just, yeah, maybe I do need to just, maybe I do need. to get killed. That would be, that would be a nice relief, I think. Yeah, jokes on you. You're doing me a sara. Oh, I can't even, I can't even hardly take it. I, I hate looking at social media, because I just get pissed. Well, I also don't know what's real. Me neither. And I don't know, it's all propaganda. I know. It's all, oh, we're, oh, we're, you know, bomb in the of Iran. And they're, depleted. And it's like, are they depleted or are we depleted? Because we just kind of, you know, blew our load in Ukraine with all our money and resources. And now do we have? Are we good? Or are the reports that I hear that all our shits blown up? Our ships have to leave pretty soon to go
Starting point is 00:08:44 restock and refuel and reload or whatever the fuck. And so we'll have, I mean, three fighter pilots shot down by friendly fire. Yeah. I mean, you know, bombing like girls' schools. It seems like it's going really well. And luckily we got our secretary of war up there sounding like a complete dumb. Dude. It seems like a Saturday Night Live skit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'm like, what? I have never been more disappointed in this country. And while all that's going on, so they got your attention here, they're still trying to push for the whole land grab thing. So we still have to. And deleting 65,000. pages of Epstein files with all the Trump references.
Starting point is 00:09:32 That's weird. That's not predictable. Or how about all the emails between 1999 and 2001? Are we just going to? Yeah. What happened during that time? I can't. Well, I'll tell you who did it.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Dude, I can't take it, dude. I can't either. This is, last night I'm like laying there, wait, can't go to sleep. And I'm like, I felt, I fell into a spiral of like, is this even, are we even real? I don't even know. I don't know. I don't get it. And then I'm like, then I was like, okay, well, my response would be just to focus on what's in front of me, what I can see, get outside, exercise.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But then I'm like, maybe that's what they want me to do. You're falling right into their trap. I know. It's, you know, you go down these rabbit holes and then you start, I didn't know, okay. First of all, here's what's, here's what's. crazy. Right now, Israel is, they know this is our last run with the U.S. because everybody's kind of awake on the whole Israel tie and the control. And they're like, wait, how much money do we send this tiny country? Why? Why are we sending them $10 billion a
Starting point is 00:10:50 year? And why do they have free health care? Meanwhile, people here can't even afford to buy house can't afford health care just if you guys don't know who's paying for all those benefits we are yeah we our taxes pay for that whole country and now they drug us into this so this war it's like oh we had to Israel was going to Israel Israel was going to it's like well let them do it good luck yeah why why do we have to so we're not quite ready but ah god I guess we got to go good decision And then the other shitty thing is like, you know, I see a Instagram video of Iran's bombing some American base, whatever it is. And the comments are like, well, serves you right. I'm like, there's real people dying.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah. It's not good on either side. No. Like, just because I don't agree with us going to war with them or the ties to Israel, the people that are serving our country are still dying. It just makes me sick. Yeah. And it's like, then Trump's up there, Trump's up there saying, yeah, people die and, you know, it's probably going to be more of them. It's like, hey, how about these drapes?
Starting point is 00:12:00 This remodel. Is this amazing? These, I mean, I'm pretty good at this stuff. It's just like, what? What the, are you talking about? You're talking about these drapes? You got American soldiers dying for this fucked up war. And you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:21 your remodel it's wild well we can we can get back into that but to to give the people a reprieve from this problem that they're also having they come to shit talkers so let's okay we'll raise this spirits here for a second we uh we sorry sorry about that I just had to get that off my chest I think we're good now for for a minute for five minutes or so I look at this propaganda machine we call social media that they just they basically invented to with us to control us that's why Facebook was that was a whole point to Facebook seriously yeah and they are really good at it and and they created this AI so that we can't know what to believe and what not to believe it's it is we live in an insane time but anyways we went to supercross in Seattle we did yeah
Starting point is 00:13:23 Oh, that's right. Yeah, and you were the Grand Marshal. Thank you. I was, yeah. That was actually pretty sick. Other than I had no idea how the flaming arrow thing was going to work. But we could figure it out. Yeah, epic.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Those guys are just studs. I love that event. I love those people. I love, yeah, just a whole environment. all the fans. It's just so fun. And they super cross knows how to put on a show, dude. Yeah, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:00 That's the one thing I take away from it. I think my favorite part of the whole event, though, is when we were leaving and we got in the elevator. Oh, so I had my bow, right? So I had my bow. Somehow we got a bow onto a looming field and shot a flaming arrow and in, you know, I guess,
Starting point is 00:14:23 with like 50,000 people there, but I guess that's fine. But then we got an elevator leaving, and we had a cohabit, habitant. Cohabitin? Yeah, of the elevator with us. And what did he say about my bow? I think people kind of caught off guard. I had like a backpack with arrows stuffed in it and then my bow. Yeah, he was like, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:14:53 What you doing that bow and error? Yeah. And you were like, oh, I could shoot an apple off your head. Yeah. Yeah. That just kind of a fun thing to do. Yeah. And he goes, he goes, oh, no, I'm going to get my car, get my gun and shoot you at the head.
Starting point is 00:15:11 No, he said, no, no, no. He said he's going to get his gun out of his, out of his car and shoot the, my bow off my head. Shoot the bow off your head. It's like, shoot the gun. the bow off my head. But yeah. Anyway. I think he might have called you
Starting point is 00:15:28 white boy too or something. We got to workshop it. I don't know for sure exactly what he's proposing. I mean, it sounds fun. But yeah, that was good. And then...
Starting point is 00:15:40 Ah, hell not. Oh, hell no. You're crazy. Crazy ass. Oh, shit. Crazy ass cracker? I think that's what it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Crazy ass. Giant turkey. Yeah, that's what I was. Second favorite part of the motocross event was we were walking around. Well, actually, no, we're at the Kawasaki truck. Everyone's walking around getting signatures, and somebody must listen to shit talkers saw me and said, Gideon, what's on your pants? And I had a bunch of mud on my pants from walking the track.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And I said, oh, it's just mud. We were on the track. And he says, are you sure it wasn't come? That's aggressive. That's a hot take right there. And it walked away. Didn't tell me his name. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Those are our fans. It's a good question. It's a good question. I mean, it's a fair question. Well, you never know with me. No. Yeah. I mean, if it was on your mustache, then it'd be like.
Starting point is 00:16:38 A higher likelihood. Saving it for later. Oh. Now we're back to HR. No. No? That wasn't so bad. No?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Okay. Yeah. We're fine. All right. But anyways, shout out to Neil. He is our, what is he? Laiazon. Leiazon.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Neil, yeah, Neil is, he just makes shit happen. So he's Kawasaki, kind of a Kawasaki rep. Yeah. He's got an agency, I think, that works with Kawasaki and then influencers or personalities or whatever like me. So he's kind of the go-between and making everything happen. He, he's the one that proposed, like supercrosses, they're cool to work with, but I think he proposed, well, it was based on my suggestion about the flaming arrow. Because I'm, I'm always like, yeah, let's go big or go home.
Starting point is 00:17:39 So really had no idea how to do it, but they, they bought in on it after he suggested it. And, yeah, so it's just fun. It's just, he's cool. He's been around Supercross and motocross forever, knows everyone. So it's just great time. Yeah, I like with him, he, he's very forward thinking with marketing. He's always trying to think outside of the box. And I like that even if maybe some people that are like to do it the older way,
Starting point is 00:18:07 don't believe he puts his money where his mouth is. And honestly, it's working great. It produced. I mean, we got a lot of viral content. That's for sure. Out of that event. So it's like if they're looking, because, you know, the racers put on the show. They're the show.
Starting point is 00:18:24 But if you can add to it in any way that's like, you know, an added value, which are the Flaming Arrow thing, five million or some views over five million. So we definitely added value to that package. Yeah. Yeah, people are, a lot of people are talking about it. Definitely. Well, I guess into racing news, we have to talk about this. We talked about it a little bit with Andy. Andy.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Oh, Andy, Andy. I mean, Cameron we had on as well. We had a lift run shoot. That was good. He's, uh, him and his dad are beasts. Yeah, they are. Yeah. No, Cameron is a stud. I can't. I'm, I mean, I don't know why. I guess I haven't trained with an active racer. I mean, I've trained with Deegan and with AC Adams, Censarillo. And, you know, obviously studs, but they're not like racing right now. Cameron, cardio machine. I think they all are. I think like to operate at over 190 beats per minute for, you know, from 15 to 20 to 30 minutes, those guys are just freaks. What was his V-O-2 Max 69?
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah. I mean, it's, but just running up this hill, he was, he crushed it. I know. He's a stud. It was impressive. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Cameron McAdoo. Yeah. Big shout out. Anyways, so, yeah, we talked about this with Andy, but Charlie Lawrence, great runner. Yeah. Was he hold the record in 50-mile? I think so, yeah. So he was on a podcast, and he said he is sure that he could break the backyard ultra record.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Oh, yeah, yeah, this guy. Yeah. And the... So our boy, Mark Doudal. The host asked him, what would you need to do it? And he was like... 50, 50 grand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 So Mark Dowdell posts a video, says, all right, let's do it. We'll get a brand to sponsor it. Winner takes all, you versus me, one verse one. Yeah. Unfortunately, and I don't blame him, knowing Mark, he's a beast. Yeah. Charlie was in the comments and was like,
Starting point is 00:20:38 ah, I got other things to focus on. Oh, that's weird. It's like, yeah, you don't want to go and just crush your soul on a backyard ultra, going against some guy who's just, one of the best. Mark is a freak. Dude.
Starting point is 00:20:53 He's a super freak. As far as, I don't know about speed. Speed is a whole different thing, but as far as just pushing for hour after hour and day after day, I mean, he wins the backyard
Starting point is 00:21:09 ultras. He didn't he win? He won Arrowhead. 135. Yep. I mean, so yeah. Not surprised, Charlie, that you had something else
Starting point is 00:21:19 to come you had to get your hair done whatever the fuck it was oh that 50,000 yeah that's not enough i meant 500,000 when it comes to mental grit i mean okay so mark dattle i think got second the maybe dnf the first couple backguard ultras he did but since then he's won every single one so we don't even know where his limit is yeah and it's not a d and f it's just he wasn't the last man standing they they all kind of count as a d and if you're not the last one, but I'm sure he had a great performance still. Yeah. But to be the last man standing, you are outlasting, usually some super freaks also.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And yeah, it's, you know, this is shit talkers, Charlie. So it's all love, baby. It's all, okay, it's all love. Yeah, don't, hey, even to Trump, to, BB, it's all love, baby. It's all love, baby. to Pete Hedsheth, the Secretary of War, gay, but all love. Yeah, right. Right?
Starting point is 00:22:27 Maybe, yeah, I don't want to get killed. Cash Patel. All love. Worthless at your job, but it's all love. It's all love. Yeah. Anyways, so Mark Doudal, I think we all want to see it happen. I would.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah. Let's see it. If you're an elite and you want to shit on, these ultra people or the backyard last man standing people. You want to shit? Let's see it. Yeah. Line up.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Because it's easy to talk shit without ever doing it. And there was even somebody in the comments that was like, oh, you know, make the time window that you have to run, whatever it is, the four miles shorter. And that'll make it more interesting. And he added something else like he could do it. And I'm like, dude, it doesn't matter how fast you get, 250 miles in.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Do it. Four miles an hour. 15 minute miles. Just do it. Do as long as you can. If that's too slow for you, you can just bust them out in six minutes. Then you have over a half hour.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You can sleep. Yeah, you've got a half hour. Every hour you have a half hour to chill out. So that should be super easy. You don't need faster miles. You can just show everybody what a great runner you are and that you could last for weeks. Let me see it.
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Starting point is 00:26:47 In other internet news, you also made the, you and Andy made the Max Jolliffe unsolicited meme page. Yeah, we did. And we knew that was going to happen. And it's a huge honor. It's actually, it goes right up there with the Dundee Award. And also, did I have another award here? Or with our Oscar, or our nomination for a nomination.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Oscar nomination. And this. Oh. So what were we talking about again? Max Jolliffe. Oh, yeah, yeah. But here's a funny part. So TMZ picked that up.
Starting point is 00:27:25 No. Oh. But he made the meme. Yeah, he made the meme like that. So TMZ picked it up. Yeah. But actually, I didn't know this. Instagram, they said one of the photos that he used
Starting point is 00:27:38 went against community guidelines. Meanwhile, you can threaten to kill a guy and his whole family, and that's fine. Oh, I've also seen three people die on Instagram today. And that's fine. That's not against community standards. But if you pretend like or make a joke about, I don't even know what, I guess, teabagging somebody, that's over the line. It was the slide that he photoshopped your face.
Starting point is 00:28:03 With my bulge. Yeah. That was not a Photoshop. up. I died at that slide. I know. Yeah, but so how does that get violate community standards, but murdering people? Well, because the meme does nothing to push their agenda. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. If it's not good for them, it's not good for us. Gotcha, Zuckerberg. That makes sense. Yeah. Well, yeah. Anyways, so along those same lines of Max Joliffe. Check out this.
Starting point is 00:28:39 The King of my lab. Check out this transition. Yeah, transition. The handshake. You know what we call it? Segway. Segway. Segu.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah. The Seguiue. Lingery. I learned way too late in life that it's segue like the ones you ride is not the same spelling for a segue. No. Spelling his segue is hard. Yeah. I'm not going to try.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah. I think there's a silent H in there. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways, some symbols. Truitt ran and Max ran the Austin Marathon, but their handshake at the end went viral.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It did. I loved that. Yeah, the Kings. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, yeah, fashion icons. Max looked like, I don't know what he looked like. He has. He had a vibe going.
Starting point is 00:29:30 He has so much aura. Yeah, he had a vibe going. So he looked like just a rock star. Then Truit looked like his normal, you know, shirt off. I think on the, I think, like in Europe or wherever the, they call it tarps off. Tarps off. Do you know that? He had tarps off.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And jeans on. And yeah. Jacked. And so, yeah, that picture was pretty sick. Yeah, I like that picture. And then also, like, on the news or on the race coverage, it showed Truit going up to him. Yeah. You know, kind of greeting each other than.
Starting point is 00:30:05 The commentator, who did he call Max? He didn't know his Max. He called him somebody else. Oh. Yeah. I thought that was good. Well, Max isn't, you know, he's the ultra guy. So the marathoners probably didn't know who either.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Right. Ultra guy. Yeah. But runs at 234 at Austin. 35. 235. Yeah. And then True at 237, which for them both to go under 240, it's not an easy course either.
Starting point is 00:30:31 But those boys can run. Yeah. And I was just talking to. truit just a minute ago and uh so it's like you know we got these big goals for them but i said no matter what happens we hit plateaus we we get better we get faster we go down we go but the but all i know is that on that race he ran it last year same course same jeans same everything and he's six minutes faster this year so even though he was disappointed because he had bigger goals but the trend line is still getting better you know six minutes faster on a shitty performance
Starting point is 00:31:05 So that's a win. Yeah. And at that speed too, that's a lot of time. Yeah. You know? No, it is. And he, yeah, he's like just telling me that, you know, before he ran CIM, he ran a 527 at home. And it was like all he could do to hold 527 for one mile. And then like through half of CIM he was at running 534s.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So at home, he's like, how am I supposed to run? run this fast. I can't even barely hold a 527, but in the race, barely slower for half the race. And then now, I think he ran 503s. So this was two months ago. He ran 503s for mile repeats. And he could barely do 527. And now he's doing 503s. And so, yes, it's going the right way. Yeah. You know, it's just, it just takes time. And he's got time. Yeah. Did a little hiccup with his ankle, though. Yeah. Yeah, he's got a little, you got an MRI. MRI. I think it's just, probably just all the miles. Did he twist it or anything? No. I think it's just, you know, I asked him, I said, sometimes when you get dehydrated or you haven't hydrated enough and you're getting in long,
Starting point is 00:32:20 because he did 20-mile runs, he did some, you know, fast 10-mile on the treadmill, if you get kind of dried out, especially down there, some of those tendons and ligaments, they're not really sliding and moving like they're supposed to. And so, they can get irritated and inflamed. So I think it's just like an overuse or maybe even just got dehydrated and it just caused some inflammation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And then it's just, then it swells because it's just not sliding and working like it's supposed to. So I hope it's that. Yeah, and there's not great blood flow down there either. No, and it's like what I told them, I'm like, yeah, I mean, 100 mile weeks, working hard, there's going to be some shit that comes up.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Your body's, it's just how it works. It's like, but we have. you know almost two years you can afford you know little things that come up because it's gonna happen you just got to work through it so yeah he's good he's he's in good shape though if that was me I would be I think I'm gonna be I think I'm gonna take BPC 157 I've decided yeah for my back your back yeah that thing that's been bugging me I'm like all the stretching I'm doing and everything and I'm not really seeing any benefits to it I'm like maybe I'll just jab my
Starting point is 00:33:33 myself yeah i mean yeah that stuff i have been taking the uh uh one five set the wolverainstack 157 and the t b 500 yeah so wolverin stack and i feel i feel freaking good yeah so well we'll see okay another thing this is a guest we've had on the podcast Casey Anderson Grizzly guy yeah he posted this video they did like uh 60 miles on foot in a serengetti And they did this video of day one where they were with their guide. And I assume you've probably had similar experiences with this, but they make camp. And they all had to take shifts stoking the fire to keep it lit through the night. And the first shift is at 12 p.m. their guide gets up and he says, this is the time I go first
Starting point is 00:34:24 because I'm going to ask my ancestors what tomorrow holds for us. So they wake up in the morning and they ask him, I think his name is Kanye. you know what did your ancestors say and he said you know first there will be uh hyenas will come and that hyena will get run off by a pack of wild dogs and then a larger pack of wild dogs will run off that pack of wild dogs and it happened did it like exactly as he said yeah and i'm watching this video and like get chills i'm like that is insane i can't imagine experiencing that in real time yeah those people are so tied in to nature it's just a whole nother And, you know, with all the shit that we've been kind of bitching about with the Epstein and the
Starting point is 00:35:05 Israel and the war, God, it makes that type of life seem very appealing. Yeah. You know, just being so immersed in nature, you don't have to worry about any of this other bullshit about this propaganda about what's real, what's not. And it's like, they're so dialed in with the animals, the country, how it all ties together, how we fit in as humans or how they fit in because they live there every day and are out in it every day. It's just, it's so special and such a unique and amazing. You know, we talk about those stories and talk about, you know, a vision from the ancestors or it's, you know, when I was over there,
Starting point is 00:35:52 we found this poachers camp and, you know, these poachers were actually saw them and worried about them shooting us but I went up and found their camp and found all their stuff and there there was like white powder in there that was used to this the witch doctor gave to them to make them invisible so they could have more hunting success and so I think that they put the white powder on the wrist and like kind of like kind of behind their ears and they believe it it helps with their hunting success because they're invisible and I just like that you know who knows if that actually works but what a different world, different existence. And yeah, it's just fascinating to me.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah. Way more fascinating than this bullshit. That's definitely a simpler way to live. Thinking about, you know, child trafficking and raping kids and women. It's just like, God, I just makes you just want to. How do we get here? Protecting the people that are guilty. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I mean I don't even I don't even I don't even know what to say yeah wild um we got to catch up on the olympics because we haven't oh we have the winter Olympics yeah yeah which would you have on there well first of all the um the female skater I asked her to come on the podcast did you Alyssa Lou yeah yeah she's dude that performance and how relaxed she was kind of a way, like so much different than her first couple Olympics, or maybe, maybe that one in 22, I think she was 16 and that's when she retired because she just so much pressure, plus, plus China was putting pressure on her family because she was competing for the U.S., but they're from China, but the dad was, uh, uh, God, he was, God,
Starting point is 00:37:51 he was, God, I think it was in Tiananmen Square protesting. And so he got. exiled from China. So she didn't want to compete for them. Anyway, the Chinese government was trying to surveil them and find dirt on them to use against her to force her to compete for China. So this girl at 16 had to go through that. So no wonder she had a tough Beijing, I think it was. And then comes here, retired, decided she wanted to come back, comes back just as free as a bird out there, no pressure, smiling, and crushed it. Yeah. While everyone told her that there's no way you can take time off and still be at that level.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Put on a show. Definitely the star of the Olympics. Oh, for sure. By far. Yeah. I mean, it's just so inspiring in her, just her performance. And also I was like, I think it's like a five minute that like the long program, whatever's five minutes.
Starting point is 00:38:47 How do they remember how to, when they're supposed to do all that shit? It's just like, God, that routine. I know. Five minutes of skating around and doing it. That's amazing. But then she nailed everything. Yeah. I also like that she is super approachable as a normal person.
Starting point is 00:39:05 This like figure skating, it's really hard to get into or understand the characters because everyone's so kind of prim and proper. And she's not. No. Like after she went, she's like, yeah. That's awesome. I loved it. Yeah. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Or she was, I think she was like. God, I think she was like so excited. She was skating over there going, what the fuck? Or something like that. That's awesome. I don't know what. But I just loved the emotion. I loved her how genuinely happy she was.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And then just to have just the stellar performance that, I mean, we've watched since then. I watched it a lot. I don't know if it was live, but I've watched it since then a couple times. And it's just so to see people excel at the highest level, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just don't, I don't care what it is. I mean, I've never even had ice skates on. Does it matter? I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It's like when Lance rode the bike, it's like, I don't give about the tour, but I love to see excellence. And so to see somebody at the highest level put on a performance like that, it's just, because I know what it takes. I don't know what it takes for that, but to do a, just a performance that leaves people speechless and talking about it, you know, a month later, however long it's been, that's, you know, it's just an iconic. Yeah. She's an icon and that performance was iconic.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And she's super young. God, 20? It's crazy. Yeah, I don't, I don't know how. I mean, it's a lot of pressure and she performed. But, yeah, I mean, that on a, on a, Gibson. Gibson, yeah, who had run with. Yeah, she, they got, came in four.
Starting point is 00:40:50 fourth in the schemo. So just one out of a metal contention, but I think they consider it just a win. Yeah. Because she seemed like she's having so much fun the whole time. And she's such a cool person. So I'd love to see that. I don't know Cam, her partner.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But yeah, I'd like to meet him. I'd like to meet him and have her on the podcast. Running with her is tough. She's tough to, to I don't know keep up with I know that well definitely aren't you thinking about doing a though they're trying to talk me into it yeah I would I would like to try it with her that'd be fun they talked about some event in Colorado this summer yeah well the other big Olympic news is we clean sweep to Canada in hockey we did yeah which is crazy that was pretty sick that Jack Hughes
Starting point is 00:41:45 oh that's another one so I think between those two Jack Hughes is also, God. What a freaking legend. I liked his after game speech. He's like, you dream of these moments when you're seven years old, and here I am at 24 still dreaming about it. I loved how they were saying that, like, the night before the game, him and his brother were roommates.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And they were saying, like, what are you thinking about? It was like, middle of the night. You're supposed to be sleeping. He's like, oh, I'm just thinking about that OT game winner I'm going to have tomorrow. And you did. It's insane. So sick. And just the broken tooth, because he took that stick to the face.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah. And just classic hockey, just this image that says hockey. And to win the gold medal in doing that. And then also with his brother and his mom was a coach on the women's team. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Their mom.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Wow. Yeah. So she got a gold. Well, dad needs to level up a little bit. What a family, though. Yeah, that's crazy. Holy shit. I did see there was a picture of him like biting the gold medal with his teeth and it was AI.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I saw that. That and they're getting on that. Yeah. They ripped that guy to shreds. And for good reason. I know. Fuck you. It's like, you didn't take it.
Starting point is 00:43:06 You didn't take it, dude. So I don't know if he ever. I forgot what his name was now. Yeah. I mean, I think he does that with a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And I saw somebody else who's like got a bunch of views and followers.
Starting point is 00:43:18 and then people realized that he was taking photos of his TV. Yeah. Which is insane. Yeah. And then he's also like doubling down on it. Like, you know, he'll say, people say, this is the photo of the Olympics and he'll say, thanks. It's like, no, you didn't take it. It's not even a photo.
Starting point is 00:43:37 It was AI. I hate that shit. Yeah. So that was kind of a bummer. But yeah, I saw Courtney, I think, called that out. Courtney White. Yeah. Didn't she?
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yeah. That's why I saw. A couple other photographers I follow too. But what did you think about the whole controversy with the men's hockey team and the women's hockey team? Oh, yeah, with the call from Trump. I don't know why he says a shit that he says. It's just it goes back to when he said,
Starting point is 00:44:10 yo, grab him by the pussy. And it's like, old locker room talk. And that was definitely a locker room. So guys say stupid shit all the time. You're on the phone. You've got to assume somebody's filming it. Yeah, I mean, as a president, I would hope I'd be better.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah. But knowing that the situation, and I'm the president of the United States, I'm calling and it's all going to be filmed, everything he does is filmed. It's like, why are you throwing shade at the women? Do you need help, like looking bad? I don't think you need to help yourself look bad.
Starting point is 00:44:45 You're doing a great job. You're already. This is like, how about just be normal? Yeah. I mean, we're so proud of you guys. Yeah. How hard's that?
Starting point is 00:44:54 I felt bad for the women's team. And I'm sure they don't need me to feel bad. But the point is, it's just like, even for the men's team, too, is like, can we just, this is an awesome moment. Yeah. Now, now it's f*** up. Yeah. Because we've got to focus on this bullshit. It's tainted.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah. And, yeah, why is Cash Patel in there? Get that nerd out of there. Do you have anything to do? That little dork. Do you have anything to do? I mean, I like Tim Dillon's rant. He's just like, where's Savannah Guthrie's mom? Is she in the locker room? Is that why you're there? Did you think she was in the locker room? Out in the mountains, there's no room for wheat gear. When I'm packing
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Starting point is 00:47:09 Can you do something? He's too busy being a simp over his honeypot wife. And here's the thing with this administration. There's so many f-ups in these important positions, but they have him there as just this figurehead so they can do whatever they want. He's not doing shit. No.
Starting point is 00:47:28 They probably don't listen to him. His phone probably doesn't even work. Just give him a fake phone. Yeah. And it's just like go and get attention off us so we can take care of this shit here so we can lie to the American people and screw over the people who entrust us.
Starting point is 00:47:43 to do the right thing and enforce laws. Well, we don't want to do that. So get their attention over there, distract them by your retarded antics. And we got this. Yeah. It's like, God. I just can't, you know, Pam Bondi, Dam Bongino, Cash Patel. I think the whole administration completely worthless.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I think so too. and I'm going to think that until proven otherwise. And I don't even know if I could be proven otherwise because I don't believe anything that. No. It's too late. You dug the hole too deep. And here's a, we're one year into this. That's what's, so that is another note I had because people are like, oh, you guys are clowns, you voted for them.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Again, this is shit we already talked about. God. Yeah, I voted for him three times. Okay. The first time I thought there was some good changes. A member was like, are you tired of winning yet? It felt like we were winning. He was, I was like, finally got this not a politician and they're not beholden to Washington,
Starting point is 00:48:58 not be holding to all these special interests and lobbyists and investors and all this bullshit that control, basically control American politics. Here's this guy who doesn't need the money and I thought he was kicking ass. And then COVID happened. And then he's the warp speed vaccine guy, which all that was was, hey, let's kill a bunch of weak people. Okay?
Starting point is 00:49:21 That's what COVID will do. Let's make a shitload of money off from the pharmaceuticals. We'll make people take this. And if they don't take it, they're ostracized. And so this is a money grab. He's pushing this warp speed bullshit, which all that did was make people sicker, didn't do anything, made people a shitload of money.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Divided us even further. Divided us further. Played this propaganda bullshit game. Fauci can do whatever. Nobody's even mentioning him. He was the mastermind behind this bullshit. With our country and the economy and the wealth distribution is like almost, I mean, I don't know if we'll recover.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Okay. And so after that, I was just like, what the, he's, why is he pushing this shit? So then it was Biden. And then you're like, oh my God, could it get worse than Biden? You know, every kid is a transgender. Every kid's being mutilated. Kids can go and get sex change surgery without even telling their parents. And the parents can't do anything about it. It's like, no, that. What? No, I'm not down with that. No. Thank you. All the Democrats. Okay, let's get Trump back in there. Trump comes back. He's, I think, probably worse than Biden. I think he is.
Starting point is 00:50:49 He's more compromised than any... Since JFK, which is why they killed him, I don't think we've had anybody that's actually making decisions in the best interests of America. I don't think so either. I think a lot of people at the top in politics are compromised. And whether it's by some small margin of just money or, you know, they're being threatened or something like that or they've got dirt on them.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It's like, how can you trust anybody? I don't trust anybody. Then I see Mark Rubio up there talking. Sound like a complete dumb fuck. It's like Lindsey Graham. They all sound like dumb. They're like, oh, Cuba's next. It's like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Send all the middle class families. their kids go to war because that's who serves. Those kids don't serve. So it's our kids that go serve and have to pay the price. And, you know, when the Twin Towers were bombed, we didn't know what the fuck happened. Everybody's like, you couldn't, I think it was 100% of America said, yeah, let's go get them. Let's go get them. Let's make them pay for this.
Starting point is 00:52:00 They killed 3,000 Americans. Who knows who did it? We probably did it. But whatever the case. didn't know that at that time. So everybody was in was down for that. Since then, now all this that this cover up, all this bullshit's been peeled back. Now we're really dialed in on like how this works and how corrupt it is. And now you expect people to want to go. And at that time, people joined because they wanted to fight for America. They were like, no, I want to, I want,
Starting point is 00:52:33 I want to serve my country. I want to, you know, basically make the bad guys pay. And it was just like the most patriotic thing in the world. And I loved it. And everybody loved it. And there was flags everywhere. And it was like the greatest time to be an American. And since then, now we've learned all this shit.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And it's just like it feels it's all a lie. Yeah. It feels like it's all a. Why? I had this conversation the other day because, you know, it would be hard
Starting point is 00:53:09 to sign up for the military knowing all this shit is going on, but at the same time, the military does give a lot of those young men a purpose. Yes. I mean, for that,
Starting point is 00:53:19 I love it. It's just like, I just hate that it's tainted now. Yeah. That's all I hate. Because when Tanner joined, I was so proud and he just wanted to be a ranger
Starting point is 00:53:29 and he was a ranger. And he, you know, he deployed. And it was like, Like it was, I was so proud of my son serving, we have the greatest volunteer army in the world. And now, now it's hard not to question what it all means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And I hate that. Because for young men, we need strong young men in this country. We need strong young men to volunteer for the greatest army in the world. But they're fucking it up. They're fucking up the dream of like, I want to fight. for my country. Yeah, because you don't, you have nothing to, that's backing you. Because is it real? Or, or are they just, are they just pawns? You know, are, are these kids, these young men and women, but it's mostly men on the front lines, are they just pawns for this corporate greed, war,
Starting point is 00:54:26 fighting for, for other countries? And it's just, it's sad. Yeah. I mean, I'm sad about it because, you know, I have a lot of pride in being from America and being an American and having a son that served and being proud of that. And just the fact that that's up is just like because of these evil crooks that run this shit, they did it. They did it up. They can't, they couldn't be, they couldn't serve the American. people and that was that was good enough yeah i mean i know this isn't probably real but i saw um some things of like what certain i guess platoons or whatever were being told like their purpose was in this war armageddon yeah come on i mean if that's real that i think that was real and how
Starting point is 00:55:32 up is that? Like, like Trump can get up there. Like, he's going to summon. Jesus is coming back because basically we're summing. We're going to make it so, so, this blood bath and like, we're going to create an Armageddon so Jesus comes back. And it's like, wait, you think you can do this? How f*** up are you? I mean, I just, I don't even, I have no idea what the, what the purpose of that is. Like, what's their angle with that? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:56:07 But it's... They're desperate. I guess. They're desperate. Because everybody knows this is a... It's a charade. Yeah. I mean, this, like you said, this is it.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I mean, people know. It's out. Yeah. And that's probably a part of their plan, too. I don't know. I'm a f***ate. So I just assume everything I think was part of their plan because I'm not smart enough to out...
Starting point is 00:56:32 Smart the plan. I don't even know what to think anymore. I know. Don't think. Turn it off. But, well, then I feel guilty because we're out running, drinking coffee, doing podcasts. Meanwhile, countries are getting bombed. I know.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That's how I feel. I'm like, wow, I'm a selfish. How nice is it that I have the ability to think about all these things and realize how it is? Because I have the time to not. worry about my life being in danger. I know. I couldn't imagine. I mean, and, you know, if you look at history, like I said, I haven't even paid, I didn't really understand history, I don't think, because what they teach us as U.S. history, I don't even know. That's propaganda,
Starting point is 00:57:20 too. Yeah. How is it that we're taught different history than other places are taught? Yeah. I mean, that's insane. So, I mean, I don't, you can go down these rabbit holes for us. ever but uh you know you talk about like all these times we've tried to force regime changes which i think i can't remember the first one was but anyway failed uh i think it's back in the 50s i can't remember where but then it was you know Afghanistan Iraq um were there eight years in one 20 in Afghanistan and now we're here trying to force again in Iran and also the reason why they hate us is because they had the Shah, I think, or no, they had, I don't know who it was, we installed the Shah back in, I think, the 70s.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Yeah. And then also created their government or their regime. We created it, the U.S. did, and put it in place. And then the Shah was basically made for decades, made life miserable for the, Iranian people. That was because of us. So no, no wonder they hate us. And then they say, oh, they've, you know, killed Americans. When? When have they killed America? They've never killed it. I mean, you could argue, I guess, the guy in Texas just the other day. I don't know who the he's affiliated with. But it's real convenient though. Yeah, exactly. So I don't trust any of it.
Starting point is 00:58:59 But we're the ones that go into these other countries and fuck them up. Yeah. And I always thought it was for the right reasons. Now? I mean, that's the whole point of the CIA is that we interject into countries all over the world, put in leaders that we want so that we can control them. They do what we want and they do what they want, which is power, you know, money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And like I'm acting like I know anything. don't know shit. Yeah. But I mean, that whole Texas thing though, I was like, oh yeah, that makes sense. They found a Quran in his car. That's really convenient. And he had the hoodie on that said, I don't even know what it said, something about. I've never seen a more obvious false flag in my life. And yeah, I mean, not, I'm not, you know, there are real victims from that. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it's terrible. It's a tragedy. You shot up? Yeah. What I'm saying is it's sick that, in my opinion, and that is a plant who killed real people with real families. And what?
Starting point is 01:00:01 So that everyone could see he had a Quran and we could all band together and say, yes, this is more for, you know, to. They tried, but that's what they were trying, but it might be a little bit too late for me. That worked before? Not now. I don't know if that's going to work anymore. We're a little bit too dialed in nowadays. Yeah, we have access to too much information. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I mean, who knows? The earth is flat. I'm not, it probably is. I think it might be. I mean, I'm with Eddie Bravo on this. I mean, I don't, I don't know. I asked, I sent that text to, or I mean, that death threat to Joe and I said, hey, you ever get, you get stuff like this very often. He's like, I haven't even been on social media in three weeks. He goes, but just out of habit, he said he looked at something about, I think the Jasmine Crockett lost her seed or whatever and like the second comment was you Joe Rogan like so he's just like okay why am I even he goes why am I I think he said like yeah I mean what what's the point why am I being drug into why do you want to well why would you in voluntarily weighed in to read that shit about you
Starting point is 01:01:21 if you don't have to so if I wasn't even on I wouldn't seen that stupid comment about killing me and my family. Yeah. I wouldn't know. I'd be like, okay, cool. I know. And obviously,
Starting point is 01:01:32 I mean, the person's not going to do anything about it. Normally, if they're going to, they don't leave it as a comment. Yeah. That's all I told Trace.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I'm like, maybe, I mean, you never know. There's some crazy people, so who knows. But normally, if that was your goal,
Starting point is 01:01:50 you wouldn't, like, comment it on a post. We should just change these from shit talkers to the rabbit hole because every topic we talk about. I know. We sound nuts.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And we are probably nuts. We get sucked down into the hole and then it all comes back. But also, here's what I'll say. It's all love, baby. This is just, we're just talking shit. This isn't real. Okay. Well, I love Trump.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I love Israel. I love Netanyahu. I love Mark Rubio. I love Cash Patel. He's doing a great job. Yeah. Incredible. Pam Bondi's, what an incredible Attorney General. She's doing amazing. And just an example for all younger women.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah, and just how she works so hard to protect the vulnerable, you know, and she cares. You know, she doesn't, she's not trying to protect pedophiles. No, this is, yes, this is a satire skit. Not that part, but everything before. Before that. We're being real now. Okay. So you guys, do you follow for it?
Starting point is 01:02:55 You got us. Yeah, we got you, didn't we? That was all a joke. Everybody's doing great. Trump, Trump in 2028. Okay, well. Or wait, when is it next? Is it 20208?
Starting point is 01:03:11 Oh, there won't be one. Oh, I know, but that's what I say. America won't exist. Yeah. I mean, if FDR had, didn't he have three terms? I think he was president for 12 years. So, yeah, I think Trump could go past that. Yeah, nice.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Well, it's set a record. You know, we talk about we always like to see. excellence. So yeah. If you're going to do that, be the best. Well, on the topic of all love, I have to say this is all love because I'm bringing a new character into shit talkers. And I don't want the similar thing that happened with Coda runs to happen with this. Oh, okay. People call me an asshole. So there's a guy, McKay Nelson on Instagram, pretty small account. But he started posting 90 days ago, about 90 days ago. And his whole schick was sub three marathon in 90 days with no running background zero sub three hour yeah so he started
Starting point is 01:04:04 training and immediately of course there's a bunch of years yeah a bunch of haters in his comments saying you can't this is ridiculous you can't do that you're going to get injured he ended up getting injured i think he pulled his hamstring or something anyways his marathon was this past weekend so he got sub three i bet right close yeah he was really close actually four 17 Yeah. Well, sometimes that happens. He, uh, I did respect it the day before he asked the followers like, should I just try and do my best time or should I go out on pace to do sub three? And everyone was like, you go out at sub three or die. Yeah, you talked to, yeah. You said this was the goal. So how long, so sub three is a, it's a 651 pace, I think. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 01:04:51 I think he went out at six. He tried to go out at six, four sevens, or six. 627 somewhere right in there. Well, 630 is 250. So I think. So 651, I think, is right around there. I think he went out in 647. Okay. And he blew up quick and bad.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah. And he, you know, it was a really hot day. So he was like, oh, maybe it was the heat. And people were like, no, it's not the heat. No. But he just posted another video and he was like, all right, next marathons in 90 days, part two. Might have a better chance. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I mean, still sub three is running. Yeah. And here's it. I mean, he's out there. He's running miles. And I think he's got a good head on his shoulders where he's like, I don't care. I mean, the time's going to get better. He knows it's ridiculous goal.
Starting point is 01:05:37 But yeah, I mean, it's a lot just to. Yeah. I mean, to run under seven minute miles for 26. In three months? Just in general. Yeah. I don't care how long you have. Under seven minute miles for a marathon is not easy.
Starting point is 01:05:54 No. There's not a ton of people do that. No. So anyways, that was funny. Yeah. I'm sure it'll gain more traction as this next one goes on. All right. New merch.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yes. Get it. Winning Elkhunt? Rihanna Ad Break. Oh, what? That's what these are called. Oh. What is the U.S.
Starting point is 01:06:13 You got a new shirt on? Yeah. What did? What did? ass cracker. I shoot the shoot off your head with my, with your bow and my gun. I shoot your bow out of my gun. I think that's what it was. So you can win an elk hunt in Utah, the greatest outcunning place I've ever been as far as number of bulls. I'm giving away, I think three of those hunts this year. I don't know, or at least two. I don't know. I had to buy like six. So I don't know. I don't
Starting point is 01:06:54 know how it's going to work but i'm going to give some away you can get this is shirt kind of celebrates that and uh gives you entries in to win the hunt yeah so you uh go buy it yeah go get him go get you some all right another friend of the podcast i want to talk about this because uh i was bummed to see that it didn't work out for him but ian larios oh i know yeah what happened Such a nice guy. It looks like he just had something up in his leg or something. Got injured. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:28 I saw he was at like 150K and he was getting a massage and the person was kind of poking it. And he was wincing and I don't know. I was like, oh, you know, that's not good. So and then I think he pulled out not long after that. But he was trying to run 460 kilometers around Bali in five days and for a good cause to raise money to build homes for the families over there that don't have them. Yeah, he's such a good guy. He's, he's, he's jelly rolls chef. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Yeah. And he is just a super solid guy. Oh, the nicest. Yeah, that sucks. I'm sure he'll go back for, for a second try, but, I mean, he was running the miles. He put in the, he put in the work. It's just, you know, one of those things. You don't really know, I think, until you're trying to do 100K after 100K after 100K.
Starting point is 01:08:13 No, I know. You don't know how your body's can respond. That's tough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Another friend of the show, Hillary Clinton, has been. the post.
Starting point is 01:08:24 So she's looking good. Yeah. She's nailing her testimony. What did we last? Friend of the show. That reminded, yeah, you're. That was good comedic timing. Yeah, I heard she said that she never met Epstein, but there's pictures of her meeting.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Epstein. Yeah. Yeah. And Bill, Bill that showed him like these inappropriate pictures. And he's just like, then they pulled him away. He's like, no, no, no. I want to look at those again. Just like, dude, can you relax?
Starting point is 01:09:09 You're on camera. You see that camera? You look like this horn dog. He's like smiling. And the person's like, yanking it away from him. Yeah. She's like, how, was this girl underage? And he's just like, whew, I'm hungry.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I mean, it's like, chill. That reminds me like when my dog grabs my panties and I have to get him back from him. You know, he's kind of biting out. Just chewing the crotch out of them, chewing your panting liner out. There's not much left to the crutch after I'm done with him. Okay. Oh, man. Which brings me to my next topic.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Crazy liaison segue here. What kind of underwear do you use? for do you wear for ultra marathons is this a real question i got asked this guy somebody dm me and asked me and i was like i don't know yeah i well one time i tried to run commando and uh that's usually not good i usually just duct tape my junk to my leg so it doesn't get that one from uh fop around addie gonia another friend of the show yeah um yeah i don't know i don't know i usually wear, I think in one of them I wore skims. They're actually tight and hold shit together. So, but like my old Under Armour ones, those just like kind of like, what are those called?
Starting point is 01:10:43 Those half tight, or compression shorts? Yeah, kind of compression shorts. So that's what I wore. Then you just kind of vasseling everything up, all your junk, your ass crack, everything. Because you can't, like I've even had it where I think I mentioned this on one old podcast with Barclow, but Even like in the underarm or underway, there's seams. And if those get sweaty and the salt goes in there, those seams can rub your skin raw. So, yeah, Vaseline or squirrels nut butter or who is that that led me in Leadville? Salty Bridges. Salty Bridges.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah. So all that shit, you got to loop all your stuff up. Yeah. So I don't know. There you go. So I hope that helps. Wow. We're going to get back into the Epstein stuff here because I have to talk about my childhood photo and address.
Starting point is 01:11:37 You all are too gullible and you shouldn't be allowed on the internet if you think that was real. Israel. It wasn't real. Yeah. Right. But somebody saw that and commented they would have had me on Epstein Island given the chance. Friend of the show, Jeffrey Epstein. G. Vacation.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah. So fun there on Epstein Island for kids, isn't it? I don't even want to. No, I don't even. I can't even. I don't want to joke about it because if I look at anything or read anything at those animals said and how they treat those kids, I want to kill somebody. Yeah. I have to talk about this.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Okay. You are sponsored by Roka. I am. Yes. Apparently you are too now. Well, so I have worn Roka for like four years. Just so everyone knows, I bought eyeglasses with my own money. Oh.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Then they broke. They happily, they sent me another pair. I was stoked for. Then I saw that they have sunglasses, like the ones you wear when you're cool and you run and you do things outside. And I was like, I saw that they had to have a prescription and your prescription has to fit it. So I texted the girl and I said, hey, does my prescription fit? Yeah. Just because I was going to buy them.
Starting point is 01:12:56 And she was like, oh, I'll just send them to you. Yeah. So shout out Roka. Look at these. If you wear glasses. They look sick. And you have prescription and you think you have to wear contacts to get sunglasses like these, you don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:08 This is the best, these are the best things ever. And they don't fog up. And because normally James would be filming running behind me. Like it's always raining here half the time it is. And like his glasses are just solid. It's like the inside of a shower. Can't see at all. They're sliding down his face.
Starting point is 01:13:26 And then I see him with these. Yeah. Fucking fly eyes glasses the other day looking like a G. I know. And shout out to friend of the show, Roka. Yeah. Shout out you for being a sponsored athlete. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:42 So anyways. No, they make good stuff. I'm pumped. Yeah. I wasn't expecting that. But I've worn them every time I've gone on a run. And they're nice. That reminds me I need to charge up my watch.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Are you going to start wearing one again? Well, if I do that. So that BB can. If I do that. you. Half marathon. I need to know what my splits are. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Do we know where my watch and charger is? Because I don't. It's probably why Tanner left his other one here. Probably. He probably stole it. Yeah. Gus Stolden. Stolden. Okay, so last topic, though, is we had Andy Glaze on the podcast. Stud. I love Andy. Yeah. Such a nice guy. Well, also, not only do I, do I,
Starting point is 01:14:29 I love him. Everyone loves him. Holy shit. You see his feedback? Yeah. He's star, dude. Yeah. And it's like he is not, you know, an elite ultra runner.
Starting point is 01:14:40 He just loves running and is a cool person and is out there doing a lot of big races and 100 mile weeks for six years. He's a stud. Yeah. And nicest guy ever was down to do anything. And we did it all. Yeah. It was cool. just a solid guy to hang out with too yeah he's the best yeah he's the best i don't i don't know
Starting point is 01:15:04 how anybody could have anything negative to say about that guy well i saw a comment where somebody was like he's not a good guy he supports other ultra runners who smokes cigarettes what and by support he meant that he just backed him up as a person okay yeah people are retarded yeah anyways yeah anyway he's he's a step I loved them, loved having them here. Yeah, can't wait for more cool guests. Yeah. It's been fun.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I think that's about it for this episode of The Rabbit Hole, minus the T. Yeah. All right. Well, it's all love, baby. Yeah. Don't get upset. This is a satirical podcast that's all scripted. This is our editorial license allows us to go on.
Starting point is 01:15:59 off script, doesn't it? It does, yeah. Yeah. So our broadcast contract. Yeah, so we're good. I mean, you can't get offended by anything because also it's satire. I do have one more topic. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Why did Cheeto lose? Why every fight I feel like he should have got the decision and didn't? I don't know if I feel that way with this one. Do you think he got beat? He just didn't strike enough. the last round he definitely was putting it on him i would give him the last round yeah but and and you know the other two rounds it's just like okay no too many strikes and then the guy had control and it was like it was a boring fight to be honest with you but yeah i'm kind of like if you want if you want the win
Starting point is 01:16:46 you got to do more i know i know i know i don't know yeah i'm a huge cheeto fan i want him to win so i'm looking at it through the lens of yeah i think you got 29 28 i think you got two to one but it was 29, 28 the other way. Yeah. I was pumped to see that. I know, me too, because, God, such a good guy. He looked like he was in great shape, too. Yeah, so.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Yeah. I don't know. Tough job. Yeah, it is. That's for sure. It's a tough job. I'm an armchair professional, so. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:17:18 All right, guys. That's what we had. Friend of the show, Cheeto. Good luck next time. Friend of the show. Shout out to all the friends of the show. Yeah, we got a lot of them. everybody all right guys remember it's all love keep hammering we'll catch you on the next one
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