Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 183 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 23

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode where we discuss James’ running goals, a recap of the LA Marathon, the grit and discipline of kids, and more! Follow along: Instagram: https...://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – James’ Track Running Goals 00:12:53 – Running the LA Marathon & Raising Money to Fight Cancer 00:25:17 – Death Threats Sent to Cam 00:26:12 – The Impossible Mile & Fitness as Discipline for Kids  00:34:05 – Developing Strength & Grit as a Kid 00:37:22 – New Rules for Getting a Marathon Finisher Medal 00:38:41 – Falling for Government Propaganda? 00:45:35 – Kallai Buyna and Food After Marathons 00:49:33 – Conner Mantz Documentary & Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Good Ranchers: https://www.goodranchers.com/ use code CAMERON for $25 off your first order Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 10% your order Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics

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Starting point is 00:03:52 this is Shit Talkers Weekly 23 what the hell we just did a shit talkers didn't we I know This would probably be short and sweet. We have more to catch up on. You got to talk about your new training block.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah. I have a big training announcement. Here's what I noticed. You're sponsored by Cadence. You're sponsored by... What else did I see? Cadence. Where was Cadence?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Was Cadence your hat? Oh, no. Bandit. Bandit. Okay. But she had something else on. Sponsored by Bandit. Bandit.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I think I was wearing a first form hoodie. Yes, that's what I noticed. I'm also sponsored by Nike. Oh, I'm a Nike athlete. Wow, congratulations. Yeah. Yeah. I wear their shoes and their socks.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Man, it's, so this training, so did you get sponsors like Truitt, the Olympic Charles or Diet Train type formula? You got sponsors and now you're doing your training block. Yeah, I mean, what I just one day decided to finally go through my, email and it was like all these offers i just kind of closed my eyes and picked one you know smart yeah that's actually the smart way to do it i mean Nike was a little low on what i was wanting money wise but royalties it's kicked in seven figures is still fine seven figures seven figures yeah you know what that's what they say in the business that is and then so for this new block i
Starting point is 00:05:24 saw you went for a mile PR did yeah so went out for a mile PR with uh old trend of the show. Yes, I know, Triple Oaks. Yes, Triple Oaks. Yeah. Um, and got my shit pushed. Did you, did you break four? Um, yeah, pretty close, actually. Yeah. Roger Bannister. I was going for four, but came in just over it with a six, 17. So, yeah, so tell me about that. Wow. Going all out. So tell me what the plan was. Okay. So the plan was, I'm thinking, all right, well, I, I can. can do a 67 second 400 and I haven't run an all-out miles since I think high school so 60s because that's what we did last week yeah and I'm like okay that's really pushing so 1 30s I should be able to maintain
Starting point is 00:06:17 and that's a six minute mile yeah yeah so I'm like man it would be sick if I could like get all the way down to six in the five like 559 would be nice yes touch the fives yeah and um Eric was like well I want to see if I can still run a five minute mile for those of you that don't he is borderline obese and about five foot one. But he is also the previous school, Yolando Elementary School, Mile Record holder. Yeah. And he's actually a good runner. Because I think it went Tanner, Eric, Truitt took it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:53 They all had it. And when I finally get to fifth grade, I'm going to take it. When you find, with fourth grade, just keep kicking your ass. They keep holding me back. I mean, fourth grade is the hardest of the elementary school grades because it's like finals. Well, apparently I need to learn how to multiply, which I'm having a soft time. Yeah, so the 130 times four, one second faster to close out with that kick, you earn 559.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, that's where I went wrong is I'm not good at the multiplication. So yeah. But no, I'm thinking, well, let's go do it. It'd be good. I wanted to do a track workout anyways. for no reason because I'm not racing anything. It's just kind of what people are doing now. Yeah, I just hopping on the trend.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And I had to make some content for my sponsors. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah. Deliverables. Yeah. So, yeah, deliverables. So Eric and I were like, oh, well, we both want to get $5.59. Let's just do it together.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Smart. And I'm like, you know, I honestly, sadly thought I had it in the bag. Yeah, you've been running. You've been training. Yeah. He is a little troll. Yeah, and I'm like, a bridge troll, but probably taller than me. That's no problem.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Is it taller than me? No, I don't think so. Okay. I don't know, at that height, everybody. Yeah, it's hard to tell that. Yeah. Yeah, perspective. The problem was we did a warm-up lap at like an eight-minute pace and it felt quick.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Okay. So after that warm up, I was like, uh-oh. Yeah. So, yeah, anyways, lined up and went out classically a little. hot. Yeah. You do that a lot though. I do. Even on 400s, you go out of like 350 pace. It's because I have no idea. I'm so used to being so slow. I think sprinting is like a seven-minute mile. And it might be. I don't know. You've never actually finished a mile like on pace. Yeah. A consistent pace. Yeah, exactly. So I got hot. I think, yeah, right out of the gate was a five.
Starting point is 00:09:01 pace through probably 200. Okay. And then I started to hurt. That's not great. Yeah, no. First half of the first lap. What is that? Like 115?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Slowed down and I came in at, what was it? 120, 121 or something like that? Maybe 124. Anyways. Yeah, I already was in a lot of pain after the first laugh. That's not because, I mean, you shouldn't have been though no because that's so much slower than the 107 well i've never
Starting point is 00:09:35 i've also never run uh hard around a track so i'm you know i don't know i'm an idiot anyways so coming around that i'm already in pain my legs already feel heavy and i'm like i have three more laps of this shit yeah of just pushing so i was i think lap two was it hurt uh people say lap three hurts the worst but i think around the final 100. I wanted to quit so bad, dude. I was like. At the time, because you did quit.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Well, yeah, I know. Because I, are you sure you didn't quit and then come back? The pace I came in, I was like, done.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I was like, walking. I was like, well, I'm not going to break six. I wanted to quit so bad in that last 100. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:10:28 I didn't get my time. I'm like, no, you just need to get a time, put it on pay. paper. Yeah, that's a good. But I think lap three, Eric really slowed up, like his cadence really slowed. And I was like, kind of catching him. And I was like, I can catch him. And then I was like, what am I talking about? I don't know if I'm going to finish this thing. So anyways,
Starting point is 00:10:45 yeah, Eric got 559. I wasn't there to validate that. Right. You know, no one was on the line. We don't know for sure. Yeah. But anyways, yeah, and I got 617. Definitely a mark I need to beat. So can you hold that for a marathon if you had to? Yeah, 617, yeah. That's my conversational pace. If you rewind the video back, you'll see that's my conversational pace. I was barely breathing. Dude, if you can hold that for a marathon, that's like in the 40s.
Starting point is 00:11:22 That's so f*** up. You could do that. Yeah, I think so. So you should go to get 240s then. I mean, you're a 240 marathon. Factoring. everything factored in yeah because you went out a little hot yeah um your legs hurt you know they felt heavy in the eight minutes so if you like you factor all that in on a good performance
Starting point is 00:11:43 yeah that is 240s yeah i don't think that should be a problem i wasn't redlining at all actually my heart rate was wasn't bad i don't the watch has got me tripped up because my heart rate is like 150. Yeah. Which I didn't feel like that. I don't know. It had to be over 200 by the end. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I think it takes a while to get all the way from your arm to your heart. This isn't really. Because for like me and Eric, it's this far. Like it's on our watches here that our heart's here. Well, you can damn near. It has to go three inches. You guys can damn near just put the watch around your chest. Around your heart.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Oh, is this a chest truck? Oh, no. this is a wristrap. Yeah, exactly. But no, I definitely, I want to go back out and beat it. But then after we did do some 400s and some 200s, that was the thing. We ran the 400s in 115, and it was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I'm surprised. I must have gone out. Like I said, five, so I don't know. I just blew up. I know that. I think your first 100 was probably too fast. Well, okay, so my first 100. I have a new fastest pace from that first 100.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So it's 340 flat. Yeah, see. So you just were, that's not what you wanted to do. Sprinting. Yeah. Unless you're Cole Hawker. Well, are you? Well, I wanted to announce, I'm actually, this is my announcement for a bit of the
Starting point is 00:13:18 Olympic trials. Oh, okay. Well, now you're open to drug testing. When you verbalize that. just so you know honestly they would test me and probably recommend that i hop on you yeah we're not supposed to say this but you need some help dude yeah but it was good i think i recommend everybody go do that because it hurts oh yeah that's why i've never done it it sucks yeah i was you know i recommended i was like oh we go do it on the road for some reason in my head
Starting point is 00:13:55 that sounds better if you just run one mile out. Yeah. But it was fine. You get the internet police now. They don't like when people go off their watch GPS for track, what could be a track split. Because I guess your watch GPS could be off. So the track nerds, like you get on a track, you want to run 400, you run one time around. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And that's your time. You want to do a mile, you do it four times. You don't go on the road. Because who knows what the road. road is. So they're like, they really, I'm pretty sure. I think that's what they bitch about. Because I know on the races are always bitching when people put up their Strava time. Oh, yeah. Because it might not be an official, like, distance time type thing. I think that's what, I think that's what it is. I don't know. People bitch about it. Yeah. I mean, you got to have the bib time, right? The chip time. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:49 the chip time is what, you know, and I'm surprised I haven't heard anything because I've put up like, in that race I just did. I put up, but it's from the race. So they said at 13.1, which is, that's what a half marathon is supposed to be. This was your time. So I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:15:04 I don't give a what my 13.8 time is. No. Why would you? I've never known what it was in my entire life until now, so why would I care? So I've just been kind of, because my, it says my half marathon time was like,
Starting point is 00:15:19 um, 124, but I just go like now the 13 one. That's all I care. Yeah, I would have, I wouldn't have finished the last. lives point seven out of protest i know i didn't want to it's just stupid it's like how it can't be that
Starting point is 00:15:32 hard to say oh you're done right here okay well what i don't understand is the marathon went out and then came back so couldn't you add that point seven elsewhere for the marr like yeah i can't imagine it was for the the half marathon i don't know what i don't know why unless they wanted to finish in that specific spot i think in that spot but i mean i don't know it seems like there's a better way to do that but I don't know. But walk us through the half marathon. God. Well, it was basically just to earn some money for cancer,
Starting point is 00:16:09 help out cancer patients. I think one specific, what was that? What do they do specifically? Do you remember? Oh, they help cancer patients. I know, but, yeah, I knew that. But was it like. Foundation?
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, no, but they do one specific part of, helping. Is it mental? I think it's mental health. Oh, okay. I think that's, I think they focus on that. Yeah, yeah, uh, cancer support groups and counseling. Right. So we earned, I'd look today, you know, I just, I hadn't donated until today. It's still open, but, um, so I gave today and we're up to over 15,000 of the $20,000 goal, except I didn't give to my team. I, I, I think you're supposed to pick like we were the rascals Alexi Pappas put this together we were the rascals
Starting point is 00:17:00 and I think I gave it just to this cancer support group so it didn't even go on our total but whatever it's 15,000 we earned me Alexi Victoria was her last name Paris Paris yeah she's cool
Starting point is 00:17:17 Dan Lamont yeah the comedian Dan Lamont who was a Zaddy Daddy. Zend Daddy? Alex. Yeah. Alex. Yeah, yeah. He ran with me. He was a stud. Yeah, I love Alex. He's basically camera guys and friends.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Matt. Carter. Carter. Yeah, shout out Matt. Apparently, he listens. Does he? Okay. Matt? Love those kids. They're such good. Who was the other guy? Then there was Pat. Pat, yeah. Yeah. So we were just trying to kind of flesh out the new. gay scene and the old gay scene and like they're like the hardcore more conservative old school gays not the newfangled double X plus what did she say can't we just have a good old
Starting point is 00:18:08 fashion straight out of the box gay yeah that's all I'm used to I don't the new stuff I don't I don't get like the oh the high vibration gaze yes high vibrations high vibrations yeah So I just thought that that was a pretty L.A. type discussion we had after the race. But anyway, those guys were great. Alex can definitely run. Yeah. So that was fun. I know he's like a, was it 234, but he's trying to break 2.30 at Boston.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So he's definitely fit. And he was just like, hey, what do you want to run? And I'm just like, I don't know, probably probably around 120 and nailed it. Yeah. So, yeah, it was good. It was a fun weekend, awesome weather. good event tons of people cool people that we were together with and for a great cause how could it be any better yeah there uh there was also some time adjustments for your run though
Starting point is 00:19:07 so all things factored in better sleep daylight savings time daylight savings yeah we didn't factor that one in an hour yep uh people uh heat yeah it was warm it was warm it was warm course yeah i mean i don't know i know the half isn't like the featured event so whatever just but there was 1100 people doing it so it was still a pretty good turnout but uh we started an hour and some after the marathon and so if you have 27 000 people out there and they start getting an hour and 15 minute head start, you're going to be reeling some of those people in pretty early. Because the back of the pack on the marathon, they're not too far in an hour and 15. No, there's some walkers.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. So we caught up to them after maybe a couple, maybe a few miles. And so that meant 10 miles of dodging 27,000 people, which I said there's a good and bad. The good part was I got to see a lot of cool people. People were like, cam, or they'd run by. and you know so I'm like kind of trying to wave that was fun what wasn't fun was trying to find a clear path and to run because if they're at the back they're they're like 12 minute miles yeah I'm trying to run around sixes it's different different pacing yeah and so to try to find with the road
Starting point is 00:20:39 is just a road and then they get to the water stations and everybody's going there so it's hot for me I don't have, I'm not packing anything because it's just a half marathon. But I wanted to get water, I put that bandana from the, from the cancer group. And my plan was, well, get it wet with water. So it's like cooling kind of skin cooling. And then I'd just take a swig of electrolytes. But that's two different tables, two stops in the water station, two different groups of people to navigate. And there's about, I think those were about every two miles.
Starting point is 00:21:14 So that was about five or six of those. So five or six of me dicking around at two different tables, trying to juke around people while still keeping that pace wasn't the easiest. No. Wasn't the easiest. And by the time you finished, you would have been finishing, because the marathon started right at seven. You guys started at 8.15.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So it had been the like 235 group. Yeah, I saw 240 was coming in. Yeah, by the time. So most the field was out with us. Yeah. I mean, when I finished, it was like that 2.30. 240, that's not a ton of people. So we had the lion's share of the turnout for the race we're sharing the course with.
Starting point is 00:21:53 You passed a lot of people. Pass thousands and thousands and thousands, which again was good, but definitely not good for you. When you run a marathon, you want to get in a groove. You just want to click out. You don't want to be thinking about where am I running, foot placement, not tripping on people walking around. Yeah, I mean, I think you reposted the clip somebody took.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Might have been Alex's girlfriend, but you can see you kind of stutter step to get around somebody. That was the whole way. And you guys were hauling ass. 13 miles of that. So, yeah, dude, I'm sore just like in different places from kind of jukeing. Not from running. I run all the time.
Starting point is 00:22:39 But so that was, anyway, I was happy that given. You know, people say, well, you didn't need to water electrolytes. You know, could have just bypass those. But no, you did on like an 85 degree day. You're going to, if you don't hydrate, you're going to be paying the price even on a half marathon. Yeah, bad news. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 So I was trying to be diligent on that. But I could see my pace was, you know, I could see every mile. I'd just take a glance when it might. I never wear a watch, but I was on that. And I could just glance down and just say, okay. We're still looking good, but yeah, I mean, all in all, the performance was good. You know, I was the first American in the half. A couple guys from, I think, they're Mexico, right?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah. Or ahead of me, but not very far, which again, I didn't know how far because I couldn't see. There's thousands of people that I didn't know who was in the half or the full. I definitely think I could have pushed. I think the lead guy got the first place got me by two minutes and then they got by 17 seconds. So I definitely had way more at the end. Yeah. Because at the end, I was back up into the high fives for miles.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. So all that considered probably gets you sub 60. And then do you know what gets you the world record? Because I do. Ketone IQ. Oh, is that what it was? That would do it. I mean, I would have been, yeah, sub 60 for sure with, what was it?
Starting point is 00:24:13 No other people. Yeah, no other people. And then sub 50s. seven with ketone. Yeah, exactly. So I mean, actually, I'm basically the new world record holder for the half marathon. That's how I look at it. Yeah, I mean, time adjusted.
Starting point is 00:24:26 So we've got the new half marathon world record holder and the new mile world record. Time adjusted. Yeah. I mean, if you really think about it, if I had a pace car for the mile, I'd have been cruising. Oh, that's all you need, dude. You are definitely, just like that one post you put up, you know, you know you're in good shape. you just can't prove it. So I think we're all on the same page there.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, I would agree. So congratulations. There was a little drama with the ending of the full marathon. Yeah. Which the guy leading went off course by 20 yards or whatever it was. Yeah. But what's interesting is like the same thing happened with, was it a women's marathon? Oh, half marathon, the world, or the U.S. championships.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah. And, you know, they figured that out. But I haven't really seen anything saying that this guy actually deserves to also be first place. I haven't, I saw somebody comment like, are you going to make the prize money hole? Because I think it was like maybe 20,000 to win. The L.A. Marathon? Yeah. Oh.
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Starting point is 00:29:10 I think he was just kind of done. Yeah. Because maybe they're getting towards the end. So he, you know, he doesn't need to go over the finish line. But that guy thought he's just to follow him. Seems like somebody, I saw some, you know, big girl was running with them. Did you see that with a flag? I mean, kind of got in his way.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah. Maybe she could have said, go that way. Or maybe she could have stayed off the course. She probably blocked his entire vision. Yeah, he's like, get off the course. Are you in the race? What are you doing? Yeah. So I don't know, I don't think that was a distraction and especially when you're pushing that hard and, you know, running a race, you're given all you got. You're, you're not trying to figure shit out. No. You're not trying to like problem solve. Definitely in a marathon or not in a marathon. No, it's supposed to be like pretty cut and dry towards the finish line.
Starting point is 00:30:06 You're not, if, I don't know, I just don't, I think we need to, it just, that was weird. I know. And to think, too, that might have given the guy behind him just enough to push. For sure. And then get that photo finish and beat him. If I would have seen somebody do that, I would be like, oh, I got him. Yeah. Because he just waited so much.
Starting point is 00:30:26 He had to go, stop, turn around, come back. Pretty brutal. That's, when your momentum goes, like, even if you stop to take a piss or stop to wait for a car, it's hard to get back up to that pace. I mean, sometimes I like to stop at stop lights, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Oh, no, I miss the cycle. Yeah, but it's hard. Like, once you're locked in a pace, then you stop. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So that little, uh, whatever detour probably cost him. I mean, maybe 30 seconds of the race. And he lost by like a hundredth, or thousands of a second? Yeah, pretty rough.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Oh, man. Pretty rough. But the guy that beat him is American, so. Yeah, and he was cool. Did you hear his post race thing? Uh-uh. He's a stud. He's a teacher, so calm and collected and just good perspective and just seemed like super
Starting point is 00:31:24 grateful and just a nice guy. Huh, well. That was cool. Kind of tough, but we'll give it to him. We'll let him have it. Yeah, I know. I don't know why all this drama is happening. Well, speaking of other drama,
Starting point is 00:31:40 and maybe you don't want to talk about this and cut this out, but you did post it. Death threats. Oh, yeah. We've got the FBI on it. Yeah. So that's why we've never said anything bad about the FBI, and we support their director.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Oops. Yeah. Oopsie. Oopsie poopsie. Yeah, but they're on it. So I don't know. People are nuts. And people just say stupid shit.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So I don't know if this is legit or if it's just stupid social media, but I'm going to figure it out. Yeah. Get that guy needs to get prepared. Yeah. For his cellmate. I have an update on that. Oh, you do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 That's for our only fans page. for Patreon. Well, I saw this video the other day, speaking of my mile, and these two brothers gotten a ton of trouble. And so they had like five hours of corner time each. Okay. And their dad told them they can knock down an hour or 30 minutes, depending on the challenge, if they do the impossible mile.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So a mile of burpees or 400 of burpees. or 400 of burpees, 400 of bear crawl, 400 of, what's a? Somersaults. It might have been backwards, and then 400's running.
Starting point is 00:33:15 A crab walk. Something like that, yeah. And then, so each one of those, if they did it, they could knock an hour off, and then they could knock the final hour off if they had a good attitude the whole time. And he posted a video of them doing it.
Starting point is 00:33:28 He did it with them. and well they failed the attitude part because there's video of both of them crying uncontrollably at certain points was this me and tenor and truett that's why i wanted to bring it up it seems like some shit i would have done right so but anyways the comments the kids finished it uh except the crying would have been we're going to double this if you cry but anyway well they i think they agreed that that didn't that didn't count or something but the Comments were all, of course, angry children. Child abuse.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Child abuse. Don't use fitness as a punishment. Shut up. Yeah, I want to know your opinion on that. Oh, yeah. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you know, kids need to be tough. And, hey, discipline comes in different forms.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Sometimes it's holding them accountable. Sometimes it's, you know, there are physical standards and pretty much anything we want to do that means anything. As a man, there's oftentimes a physical standard. You got to meet. And if you don't meet it, you're not doing it. So I think it's good to teach kids that, that, hey, if you want to be this type of person
Starting point is 00:34:43 or this job or you want to do this type of thing, here's what it takes. Yeah. Okay? So those kids are learning that really early. And to also note, I mean, I'm sure there were multiple times during it they wanted to quit and they got through it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 You know, I feel like that's an invaluable lesson. Oh, of course. Yeah, and their dad did it with them. Yeah. So that's another big thing that he wasn't just sitting there drinking a beer, smoking a cigarette, going grunch. Get going, you little, like I used to do. So it's like he's sharing and that with him and holding, you know, like I said,
Starting point is 00:35:18 holding them accountable. And there's what started it? What they do? They just got in, he didn't say what they did. But yeah, they got in a lot of trouble. It's all right. Yeah. It's going to, if you're a boy, it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:35:29 You're going to do some stupid shit. The worst thing you can do for a boy is let him get away with everything. Yeah. You're turning, you're making a monster. Yeah. Okay. So just boys aren't girls. No.
Starting point is 00:35:43 You don't want a boy run around feral like with no boundaries and no discipline because then they're just, you're fucking. Yeah. You're going to end up like me. Yeah, exactly. I used to laugh at my parents and they tried to spank me. Paris love when. when you spank the kid and they laugh. That's that they really like.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I remember the last time my mom tried to spank me, she was crying and I was laughing. It's effective. Let her hand hurt probably. She felt bad for being mean to me. Oh, yeah. Wow. At least dad's never have to deal with that.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I think the last time my dad spanked me, I threw a rock over a fence and it hit a car. Yeah, that was a good one. I thought I was going to get the belt on that. one but I didn't you didn't get a belt for that no but I remember he had his leather work gloves on and this image in my head of I was like you know bare bottom yeah got to get a bare bottom bent over this chair and I remember him setting his leather gloves down in front of me and I was like oh here it comes that's skin on skin black yeah back to this the other thing was people saying like
Starting point is 00:36:55 oh don't use fitness as a punishment I don't think it was a punishment it sounds like it was a reward you get time off of your punishment yeah for doing the good behavior yeah i mean for being tough yeah i mean and normally when i'd have the kids do something we'd go there would be a reward at the end like we'd go to dairy queen nice you know you get in some miles for a kid kids don't want to do that they don't need to do that they're running around all day anyway but if they do you reward them yeah and that's that's another valuable lesson of life hey, when you do good shit or put in, you know, put in work, there's going to be a payback usually. Yeah. Eric and I kind of talked about this after the mile because I was like, dude, how can you not run and then just come out here and run $5.59?
Starting point is 00:37:43 But I think there's something to be said when you're a kid, you know, he ran a lot. He was in track. Doing those things when your body's growing and being tough, I think lasts for a really long time. And you reap the benefits of that later on in life. I mean, it's, I feel the same way sometimes, like, when I'm in the gym, this is an excuse to why I'm weak, by the way. But, you know, you'll see some guy who works out once a month and he can put up, you know, $2.50 three times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's like, you know, I'm grinding out to get, to even get one at that weight. But he was in the gym all the time during middle school and high school playing football. Right. So, I don't know. Just so, you know, nobody puts on $2.50. Okay. So it's $2.25. You could put on $2.50.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah, but nobody. he's going to do that, dude. You do 225. Tens and two two and a halfs. Exactly. So that's how I know you don't know what 250 is. Well, I'm not counting the bar. You could
Starting point is 00:38:45 have said you put collars on with the tens. Nobody puts collars on. That's for games. Exactly. That's not derogatory. No, no, no. That wasn't what's that called? A slander, not a slur?
Starting point is 00:39:01 A slur. No, that wasn't a slur. No. It was more like a slurpy. Yeah. It's a reward. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a, I think Joe talks about this.
Starting point is 00:39:14 He perfected that. He does that like spinning body kick or whatever the fuck he does. And he said that he did that so much when he was like 15, from 15 to 20. His body is just. Yeah. It just grew doing. that it's like snapping snap and it's like so hard it sounds like 22 going off and it hits that heavy bag but he just said his body just adapted and grew doing that yeah so i think that you know i got i
Starting point is 00:39:43 started the kids lifting at 14 in truitt up until recently hadn't even missed a day yeah in like 14 years so it makes a difference definitely does for sure it'd be the same for me and tennis but the problem is tennis isn't really doesn't really help in everyday life. Tennis isn't really a sport. Masculine. Women love tennis and not in the way you think. But they love balls bouncing out their off the racket.
Starting point is 00:40:24 What are you talking about? Off their tennis racket. Off the tennis racket guys. Goodness. Not off their chin. No, off their chin. Why would you want a tennis ball bouncing off your chin? That would make it all red.
Starting point is 00:40:38 That's weird. But yeah. I'm going to get more comments and say I laugh too much. God forbid I'm happy. Yeah. We also have to talk about, we didn't talk about this with the marathon, but you don't have to finish anymore to get a, finishers measure. No, that's good. Yeah. So it's probably a lot like women feel like females,
Starting point is 00:41:07 feel like, you know, they do, well, that would be the opposite. I was going to say they do the same amount of work, but only get paid. Yeah. So it's like the pay gap. Yeah. Between women and men. It's just like, don't worry about it. Which I'm actually, I'm going to run for Congress and I am going to propose we increase the pay gap. And I'm going to propose, we're going to propose, we we increase what a marathon is also at the same time. To 31. 31 is now a marathon and men should be paid double women get paid. I think that you have a good chance if you ran on that.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I think so. Yeah, you get a lot of supporters. My opposition will be Angel Reese. Well, it also, I mean, it's not like anybody can say you're a liar if you didn't do it because that's what all politicians do. They say one thing, do another. Oh, no, I shouldn't have said that. We were doing so good.
Starting point is 00:42:06 No, I'm not even, I don't even want to go down this political cesspool, anal trap, whatever the fuck it is. We do have to touch a little bit on that because of our last one. There were some comments of people saying, oh, looks like they're falling for the propaganda that they're talking shit about. Yeah, well, okay, to their point, I, Don't know. I don't even know what is real and what's not. I don't know what's propaganda. What's not? So maybe we are. I don't know. All I know is that I voted for a guy who said, we're not going to get stuck in an endless war in the Middle East. We're going to have justice for the Epstein files. The victims are going to have justice. The perpetrators are going to be held accountable. I didn't think we're going to sell public land every week or try to sell public land every week. So that's what I voted for. Right. I voted for America. Remember America first? Remember that?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Well, meanwhile, we were mobilized in some other country. And some guys arguing with me today on like, oh, this is an war. This is an air assaultless strike. It's like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Okay. Maybe there's not guys over there right now. There is guys because people have been killed, but maybe not, quote, boots on the ground, but billions of dollars are being wasted. ruining we're you know the oil all the oil shit they're blowing up right now it's like okay just hold up guys you know we're going to need access to that you know you're not just hurting iran with that you're hurting everyone the entire world you're hurt for for what what why was this again oh they were making nuclear weapons that we obliterated we obliterated the whole system oh and if somebody says otherwise because Trump said we obliterated it they have nothing
Starting point is 00:44:03 if somebody says otherwise they're lying well okay so are you lying now here's yeah here's what I want to put out there now after this we will have taken care of their nuclear system their nuclear program so we can't say that Iran is building nukes anymore for at least a couple years two weeks away they're two weeks away
Starting point is 00:44:23 from having nukes again did you know that and they'll have it for the next 30 years like they have before I just, man, I can't take it. Meanwhile, who does have nukes and they say they don't? No, they don't say anything. They don't have to. They have like 450 nuclear missiles, this is Israel,
Starting point is 00:44:43 and they're supposed to be reporting them. They're supposed to let inspections in. They've never allowed anyone in. They have the nukes. What is going on? And who do you think is paying for that? And then you got Lindsey Graham up there talking about, we're going to, we're going to bomb the hell out of them.
Starting point is 00:45:05 We're going to bomb the hell. It's just like, what's the objective? What is, what's our objective? So he's talking about bombing the hell out of the people because we're just blowing up schools and their sewer, their water, their water treatment facility, their entire infrastructure. So killing civilians. And we're just going to blow the hell out of them.
Starting point is 00:45:31 That's his quote. It's just like, so how's that different than just massacring people? So you're just murdering civilians, just blowing the hell out of them. Well, it's for 982 approval for the war, though. Yeah, right. Sean Hannity, bullshit. Let's do our own poll. Smash that comment button down below.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Let us know if you're for the war. I just, I mean, if there was, hey, our military is incredible. I had so much respect. But what's the objective? Yeah. I mean. I mean, we obliterated their nuclear shit already, supposedly. Why are we blowing up schools?
Starting point is 00:46:21 What's the objective here? Because, and even then when Trump says, yesterday is every day there's some ridiculous. saying, but yesterday the whole thing was we're way ahead of schedule. Did you hear that? What schedule? Well, also it was like as some business mogul, if, okay, if you're way ahead or way behind you fucked up, that's how business works. It's like, I want somebody who's dialed in. This is exactly what it's going to take. We're going to achieve it on this date and then we're out of there. But if you're way over or way under, that tells me, you had no idea what the, what we were doing.
Starting point is 00:47:01 No. Because you shouldn't be way under or way over it. That's just being off. That's wrong. So you're wrong. So I never heard what the objective was. Well, that's the problem. How can you have a schedule if you never have an end goal?
Starting point is 00:47:14 And how can you be way ahead? Way ahead of what? So no clue. I think right now it's such a disaster. And gas is going to probably go to, I don't know, $200 a gallon. because they've, because Iran was like, oh, you guys want to blow us up? Okay, watch this. All our sites over there, our military sites that we had, all blown up.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah. All these other countries, all their shit's blown up. They thought Iran was like not ready to play this game. They've been planning this shit for decades. Yeah, forever. And, oh, they're going to surrender. You think they're going to surrender? You think these people even know what that word means?
Starting point is 00:48:01 When they surrender, it's over? Holy shit. What the f— Do you know anything about history? Yeah. Do any of these— You know anything? You don't have to look that far back.
Starting point is 00:48:11 It's just like, what— This was your plan? Anyways, this isn't a political show. That's right. I forgot. Oh, it's all love. Trump, we gotcha. You almost.
Starting point is 00:48:26 For God, it's all love, baby. It's all love. You're doing a great job. You're doing a great job, Donald J. Trump. Round of applause. It's all love. Everyone. Cash Patel.
Starting point is 00:48:38 J.D. Vance. Erica Kurt. Dan Bongino. Lindsey Graham. Marco Rubio. We're so proud of you guys. It's all love. Benjamin Nitton Yahoo.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Big Beebe. You guys, man, you make us proud. You make us so proud. Yeah. Real quick, I did want to go back to the L.A. Marathon and give a shout out to Kallai, Bina. Yeah. You met him. Is that the first time you guys have met?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's stud. Didn't quite get his goal, but he did run pretty much back-to-back marathons. I mean, seven days apart. Yeah. Do you get 248?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a good effort. Yeah. I can't say shit. I never got 240. VH so well we'll see about that oh wait what do what I don't know yeah that's a oh no that's a that's that's Nick Fuentes yeah we're canceled again well we're already canceled oh dude yeah um
Starting point is 00:49:49 what'd you say about L.A coliabina oh yeah yeah no he did good yeah two back to back um yeah I think there's some people coming to Eugene too to have a good performance here. Eugene's a good course. It's always cooler. It's a little flatter than L.A. Less people. Yeah, people come here and get a good time. Should be good. I have to work that day, so. No, you don't. But I'm going to. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're going to. You're volunteering. Yeah, because I think it's important, you know, if you get your best time. So, oh, smart. Yeah. Thank you. So I'll make sure just like an L.A. Marathon, I was right at the end waiting for you. stuff you got some good stuff there not one clip so that was good yeah the ending was really it was
Starting point is 00:50:39 really good inspiring yeah and uh maybe well i don't think it was no the video i put up was just from some guy that was yeah i don't think you put up that one i sent to you of the beginning oh because uh alex was in the way that wasn't that great i think that other clip it's pretty good i think that other clip was better though if you had to choose them. Between that guys or mine? Yeah. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I already have like 10 posts of that marathon out, but it is fun just because it's a good event. We're there for a good reason. A lot of cool people, so I just like making posts about celebrating that. But then I look back today and I was like, I put up a lot of shit on this half marathon. I don't think I put up that much for Cogodona.
Starting point is 00:51:26 We should have put up a post about the lady we ate lunch next to. Which one was that? Mike Pork is undercooked. Oh, yeah, I mean, she was hot. That was the only redeeming quality. Her husband is really hot. That couldn't be her husband. A hundred years ago, he would have been hot.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I mean, I hope that was her dad. I think he invented electricity. Well, how it works in L.A. is either her dad or he's really rich. Yeah, I know. That's why you never know. It's kind of fun. You get to play a little gasing game. I don't know what that was, but our food was good.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah, it's weird because the half marathon, you don't really get to go balls out on eating like you do after a full marathon. Yeah. Because it is only 13 miles. So it's just like, is this a like blizzard, dairy queen free for all? It doesn't feel like it. You know, I tried that after Kokadona, which didn't work. But after three days of running, you feel like, okay, I got, I've earned one.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You've got a little leeway here. I can go off the. rails on this food show. Where's the Cheetos and the, do you make Cheetos, Cheetos Blizzards? Could you a Cheetos Blizzard? But that's only after multi-day races. Yeah, not after a half marathon. No. But it actually comes back full circle after a full mile. You do get to do that. Yeah. Yeah, because you burn like 50 calories. So you got a lot to replenish. At that pace, like at a 340 pace for 100 yards. You could eat whatever you want. You can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah. Well, that's good shit. That was in on my list. Did you have anything else that's not about BB Net and Yahoo? I, yeah, what have I been researching lately? Oh, no. I don't think I have.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I think I've just been, tried to watch some YouTube videos because I miss that. That's usually what I do at night. It's just like to see if there's any new docs. I did actually watch a new doc last night. It was Connor Manses' American record. Is it good? Yeah, it's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah, it was. I saw that. I didn't watch it, though. Yeah, I mean, he's a stud. Brutal pace, but, yeah, I guess he had kind of the same thing with the water, so time adjusted. He probably had a new world record. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Really had dick around the water? Yeah, they had a couple clips of him in there, like, slowing down quite a bit, grabbing water. So. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think that's just on a hot day, you're just going to, you're not going to be as fast. Yeah. That's all there is to do it.
Starting point is 00:54:09 So if you can not have to fuck around as much with hydration, you know, in a marathon, you're still going to have to have it. But, yeah, I think we're in good position now. Truitt's, he's over in Hawaii taking a little break. And then he'll get back and we'll, he's going to be here at the end of the month. So we'll get some good runs in. and into this month, I think I have a race. Yeah, I don't know. I just, I got to try not to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Gotta keep the wheels on. Did you think any more about shotgun? Oh, man. When I get in shape, you kind of want to do everything. Yeah. You know, because you're like, okay, it takes a long time to get in shape. Yeah. To get in like peak condition.
Starting point is 00:54:55 And when you get there, you want to like maximize. So I'm like looking at all these races. I'm like, yeah, I think I could. Like shotgun is a little, if I'm trying to get the 240s at Eugene, it's not smart to do an ultramarathon two weeks before. But yeah. I want to.
Starting point is 00:55:17 So we probably know how that one ends. Yeah. Because that's where I got her last year. Yeah. Where I almost, well, I did miss Boston and almost miss Kokadona because I fucked up my hamstring so bad and my foot was still fucking. He had to walk to train. Yeah, so anyway, if I can just be smart, then, I mean, but Eugene, I've never been smart
Starting point is 00:55:39 for seven weeks. Eugene's like seven weeks away. That's like, that's a lot. If Eugene was this weekend, it would work. I could, I can fight off being idiot for four days. But for seven weeks? Yeah. No, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:56 But we got a lot of people want to come on the pod. That's good. Yeah. So a lot of sick people. That's our quick little update from this weekend. We just want to smash a like button with you guys and smash and put that like, like subscribe button on your head. And I'll go get my gun out of my car. And I'll shoot.
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