Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 194 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 27

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode Cam, James, and Eric discuss small town basketball leagues, hallucinating while running ulra-marathons, an out of body experience while meditating, and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Men’s Basketball League 00:08:07 – The Dark Wizard Documentary 00:16:02 – Hallucinations During Ultra Marathons 00:17:08 – Trump’s Neglect to American’s Financial Situations 00:18:38 – State and City Level Politics 00:19:42 – James’ New Running Times 00:22:01 – Outfits of the Met Gala Red Carpet 00:23:02 – James’ Out of Body Experience 00:25:41 – New Bear Hunt Collection 00:26:51 – Upcoming Bentley Giveaway 00:28:08 – Mid Century Modern Remodeling 00:29:36 – Cam’s Surgery & May Bear Hunt with the Rivett’s Thank you to our sponsors: LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off Sig Sauer: ⁠https://www.sigsauer.com/⁠ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics

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A little lighter than the last one Last one's a little heavy A little Emotionally saturated So we'll keep this one fun And light We brought back the people's champ Yeah

Eric I know Yeah so yeah It wasn't really that fun last time I'll tell you what It was exciting for my first one I was a little nervous but you kind of had, you know, asking some questions. It got a little down in the dumps, and I was,

you've had baptism by fire twice now. So I'm ready to be with the two top shit talkers in America right now and get this experience. All right. Well, welcome back. The reason why you're here is you're funny, but we didn't get a chance to see that. Well, I didn't get to be, and I was. Make me laugh.

I was a little nervous that first time. And I was like, you're a funny guy. Tell me a joke. I don't want to see the wrong thing. This seems really serious. We're back. We're ready. We're back for fun now.

So what's up? We got lists. We got some lists we put together, and I have something that I want to ask you to about. It's been weighing on my mind here a little bit. I play in a rec basketball league, a D-League basketball league. So my question is, should there be a cutoff in ABCD League where shit talking is allowed? I used to talk a lot of shit when I played Springfield D. Oh, no.

Oh, no. He's that guy. He's the guy that we have to play. And Springfield C and Springfield B and A. I subbed in for a guy and played the other night. And it was an experience. Yeah. Was he talking shit?

There were, okay, so there was two guys on our team, three guys on the other. And they made it like a personal battle between those guys. Never passed the ball. We played the entire game. Probably had, you know. 60 times on offense. I touched it once. I think I touched it three times and two of those were pass-ins.

Yep. But I did get a point. Free throw. Yeah. Got a free throw. Nice. What happened to the other one? They were just, oh, well, I missed.

Because usually if you get one, it's usually an add one, which you converted, but you said one, so you missed the other. So I drove to the hoop and got punched in the face about five times. Glasses come flying off. So I go to the line. I made my first free throw. It was actually perfect. And then I think I got rattled because I was like, damn, I made it. It was funny because I brought James and our team's not that tall.

So I was like, hey, I got a guy. You know, my roommate's pretty tall. So bring him in, everyone's like, oh, hell, yeah. We got this guy that can play in the post. Yeah, it wasn't the case. More of a perimeter guy. Yeah. Anyway, but what we experienced is every time I come to these games,

I realize I'm like, all these guys are talking shit like they're in the NBA. Yeah. And I wonder if there should be a point when you're like, hey, if you're not playing B or A, shut up. It's also like, we're here, I'm here to just get exercise. I'm getting old, you know? It's also like you got, yeah, 90% of the players on the court are 40 and above. And then you got these like D3 basketball players who suck relative to competitive basketball,

but they drop down to the D league so they can try and win the whole thing. 100%. And that's another question. Where do you, where's that cut off when people come in to be like, yeah, you shouldn't be in this league, you know? There can't be one. I mean, let's be honest. If there was an E-League and we could win it, we would do it. We would do the same thing.

Yeah. No, for sure. No, there's no limit. But, yeah, it's fun, though. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun. But, I mean, it'd be a little more fun if, you know, I actually got the ball, you know.

I mean, the shit talking, I would talk shit to my kids when they were like 10. So, of course, I mean, talk shit to a grown man. I think the best part of the shit talking in this game was, you know, there's people to talk shit and you're like, when the game's over, it's like, oh, it's all fun at games. When this game was over, no. People were going to the parking lot. Yeah. And you're just like, what are we doing here?

Some guy in the other team brought his mom. Yeah. And she was chirping hard at me from the crowd. We were down like six. And, you know, it's it's rec league. So the clock just runs. And they're like, hold the ball, hold the ball. This is winning basketball.

That's what they were saying. I'm like, dude. The best one is I clocked a kid. When I went for a ball, this kid goes down, I go to help him up. And he's like, you motherfucker. And I was just like, what? Yeah. Oh.

Yeah. So that was good. That was good. That's something I figured to bring up, and I'm always curious what the people's opinion is on that. Yeah. No, I mean, I've seen a lot of fights at City League.

Yeah. So people take it serious. When was the last time you bawled up? Man, I used to live for that shit. But yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while. I mean, I'd go back. I'd play again.

Well, we need to subs. Once the hands healed, we might have to bring you in. No, I used to play all the time. All the teams, all the leagues. I feel like back then, too, it was different. It was like all my parents' age, Everybody like, it was a cool thing.

Everyone would go down to City League basketball and stuff like that. It's getting a little different nowadays. Is it? It's just, I don't know. It's too five years. There was a guy at our team who was like, they were chirping each other, obviously. He goes, well, I can't say the word he finished it with, but he goes, not the hood I'm from. Ninja.

Yeah. Yeah. Well. Imagine what I'm going home now. Where are you from? Oh, you're from Eugene. Okay. Yeah.

It's, yeah, we used to have, I can't remember what league I was in, B or C. But Keith Lewis, who played over here for the Ducks, he was a safety, and then he played for the 49ers. Somehow we got connected. And he wanted to come and play on the City League team. So they'd play, the 49ers would play on Sunday. They had Mondays off. He would drive up from San Francisco and his Hummer to play on my City League team. That's great.

And I tell you what, if you throw an NFL player out there, like in one of Oregon's best safeties of all times against regular guys, it's not fun for them. And then I was in shape. So basically, I was full court press all the time. So many steals and like, I just remember like the first opening tip, the ref threw it up. Keith, he's like, he goes, hey, he goes, when he throws this tip up, he goes, just take off to the basket. I'm like, okay. So it throws it up.

Keith jumps up, grabs it two hands and just shows a perfect outlet. And then I score and their refs like, no, no, no, you can't grab the tip. So then he's just like, same thing the next time. But we used to win like 130 to 40. They were that team. You were that team. And everyone hated us. And Tril would keep stats.

And he'd be like, he'd be like, you know, Keith would have 30 some points, 20 rebounds, however me. And like one time I remember Truis said, I said, I think I had either, God, I don't want to say 50, but I would score a lot. Because Keith would just fight. And I hit threes all the time. But so that was our city league team. Yeah. And people was like, this is supposed to be city league. We're playing against professional athletes.

They're like pissed. My experience was the ball comes off the rim and I'm going for a rebound and I jumped a little too early. And I'm reaching, it felt like it lasted forever, but I'm reaching for the ball and it just stayed like three inches of my hands and I'm like spinning in the air. I come down and I'm like, I really hope no one saw that. And I look over at Eric and he's laughing at me. And I'm like, like professional athletes out there. It was bad. But that was fun.

Pretty fun though. It's super fun. Yeah. Well, the first thing on my list we got to talk about is I finally. they watched the dark wizard oh so good i mean so coming from a climbing background i obviously know who or knew who dean potter was but i didn't know all the lore that goes with him pretty wild yeah i mean there's a lot of people i know that kind of have that same demented personality they're just like you know like they said it's just this kind of dark energy but all of his journaling oh i know

pretty crazy no he was he had some depth to him have you seen i have i said give me enlighten me on the So Dean Potter is a climber, and he really still is regarded as like the father of modern Yosemite climbing. So like speed climbs up the nose, free solo. Like a free solo guy. Yeah, like when Alex Honnold was coming up, Dean Potter was like his hero. Okay. And but he also had this dark side where he was just very emotionally charged. Like he's very free-spirited, but also had a huge ego, you know.

And then he would go through some like emotional. turmoil and he would just go on rampages of like free solos because he didn't care. Damn. And he was pushing his physical limit while free soloing. So usually when you free solo, it's super far below your limit because that's where you feel safe. And he was like, so he eventually got to a point where he got into base jumping and he would wear a base jumping backpack while he was free soloing because he knew the route was too hard.

He'd eventually get to a spot where he'd fall off the wall and then he'd turn it into a base jump. I'm going to ask this question for you any further. Is Dean Potter still with us? No. No. He died, but he actually died not free soloing. Yeah, pretty wild. But that's kind of a common theme with free soloers

is there's such adrenaline junkies, they get into base jumping. A lot of them have died base jumping. I believe Dean Potter, he died repelling off of a rope swing. No. No? No. Is that Dan Osmond?

He, Dean Potter died a squirrel suit flying. Oh, that's why. Wow. So, yeah, I mean, spoil alert, if you guys skip, wait, skip what I just said. Yeah, I got through this. I got through the second episode. But no, he was kind of a bigger guy. And he was, because it's basically like their adrenaline, just keep, you need more adrenaline, right?

You just need more, something more. So they do the climbing. They do the, what's it with the parachute? Oh, base jumping. Base jumping. And then he got into squirrel suit. suit flying basically, which is, you know, you're just flying. And he was with this kid who was really good. And they'd do this jump or this flight. And they'd go and try to make it through this like

little crack kind of like this. And Dean was kind of bigger. So he would like, as soon as he jumped off the cliff, he'd drop way down. That other kid would kind of stay up higher. And then you get the speed going and then you can get through that little wedge. Well, they went just some random night there building a house for Dean Potter and they said hey let's let's run up and let's do a let's fly so they ran up there and um they looked at the notch over there his wife or girlfriend or wife or whoever I think wife at this time was there taking pictures and uh didn't get through the notch brutal wow yeah so it's a series it's not like a one episode it's four episodes okay I'll have to watch but they're all like 50 minutes long or so yeah

It's really good. Pretty good. That you were watching last night. Yep. Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, I had a friend when I climbed who's kind of the, he reminds me a lot of Dean, not quite as good of a climber, but I remember his girlfriend broke up with them. And he kind of like disappeared for a couple weeks.

And then we went climbing and we're like going up looking at this big route that was like, it was pretty hard climb. And he's like, uh, I free sold that a couple days ago. And I'm like, Jesus, dude. Yeah, I don't. The fuck's wrong with you. And he even said afterwards, he's like, yeah, to be honest, like those two, weeks. I didn't really care if I died. And I'm like, that is a really dangerous place to be in.

I just don't get like, have you seen Free Solo with Alex Honnell? Yeah. I mean, thousands of feet up on that rock. I mean, I got vertigo with you guys up on three finger jack. You guys were riding the ridge line all the way and I'm just like, well, I think I'll stay here. I'll stay here. As long as I got the keys of the car. These guys are, I mean, what they do is unbelievable. But also, I just like somebody who's got. that's such a deep, like so much depth and tormented. Yeah. You know, he's definitely tormented.

And so you feel sorry for him. You see what he does. You're like, this is amazing. You want them to have some peace. But then without peace is incredible because they're doing these crazy things. So it's a fascinating watch. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah, I was DM in with this guy. He said something I hadn't really thought about, but it was about the last podcast and kind of the emotional response. But he said, I think people like seeing somebody get emotional about something because they envy somebody caring so much about something. And I think that's true. I didn't really thought about that.

But it's like they look at that and go, man, I hope one day I can feel that deeply about something. And we talk about that with like finding your purpose. You know, we feel bad for people that, you know, most people don't never find that thing that moves on.

Yeah. Yeah, pretty wild. but you should definitely watch it. I will. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. I had a question.

I had a question for Cam. So I've been on Instagram, I've been following all these coca dona runners and stuff like that and all the people that are kind of, they all get hallucinous. Like hallucinations, hallucinations. Hallucinations. Hallucinations. Have you ever had that happen? No. And if you have, have you ever seen anything before?

No. I was like, oh, I see little elves running around and stuff. And I'm like. I never, never hallucinated. Spends a lot of time in the woods, you know. I know. What has he seen? I haven't.

But I haven't. but I know a lot of people do, and it's pretty entertaining. I know Courtney used to see like a leopard in a hammock. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. So, I don't know, pretty amazing. Your brain just kind of breaks, you know, after multiple nights of no sleep and then pushing that hard, kind of what happens.

Have you ever had it happen like or seen anything, not in racing, but in hunting? You know, you're spending days out in the woods by yourself doing stuff, nothing ever? No. No, nothing. No big foot. No, you big foot. If anyone would see Bigfoot, it would be you. No, I haven't.

I haven't. Don't get Eric started on the aliens. Yeah. I did. I wanted to mention people are going to hate it, but I just saw a clip the other day of Trump saying that he doesn't care about Americans' financial situation. Yeah. Yeah. See that?

Yeah, I'm like the politics. Yeah, I've been so out of that just because I got so frustrated with all the shit that's going on. And it's like, I mean, we have no say in it. We're like the victims of it. And it's like so frustrating. I had to hitch a ride with James to get here because I couldn't afford the gas. Yeah, no kidding. No kidding.

But it's like, you know, you can get so upset. You can make all these posts, do all this, which I did because I was like upset. Nothing changes. Nothing. And then it's like now I've been doing all this other stuff, you know, had to go do Cocoa, did. you know, all this other shit. And it's like, I could be just as upset and nothing would have changed or it could

ignore it and nothing changed. But then when you ignore it, you feel like, is that what you should be doing as American citizen, not caring about the wrongs that are being, you know, that are happening because of our government or it's just weird. It's like it doesn't feel right to detach. But being so upset doesn't change anything. thing either. Yeah. So I don't know what to do. Yeah, by the way, you're on a list now. I know. We've been on that list for a while, but yeah. But speaking of politics, the governor vote,

Chris Dudley, is on the ballot. I think that's an interesting. That's an interesting thing is like politics, you know, a lot of times we're looking at like the national level and stuff like that, which is super important in certain causes, but like people neglect their state level and their city level when it's like, what's happening in Springfield, Oregon is pertinent to my property taxes. Yeah. Like, I need to, and no one pays attention to that stuff. The most powerful people for the states are the governors, for sure, because they, you know, states, they operate individually, basically.

Yep. Yeah, the president has an effect just on big picture stuff, but your day-to-day life, that's a governor. Yeah. Or that's the city politics. And we get so lost, like, the youth and stuff like that with the industry, it's like, what's happening to Trump? What's happening to this?

It's like, no one even knows who the governor is. No one knows what's happening. It's like, that's affecting us on a day-to-day basis. Yeah, I know, I know. Well, I think there's some good candidates out there. You vote? We had Chris Dudley. Yeah, we had Chris Dudley in here.

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I'm like, I don't know. I did 10 yesterday. I got my long run on Saturday, but the body, like my body feels fine. My legs feel great. They're not sore or anything. But I got to figure something out to keep my mind from. Podcast. Shit talkers.

I don't know. I need somebody else to have a shit talker so that I can be entertained. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. Yeah. Well, 60 miles. That's good.

And your body feels good. Getting faster. Yeah, feels great. Good. I mean, what do you pace now? For like the slow runs, like 845s, 830s. That's good. Yeah, and then I did a 10 mile.

I had two mile warm up, six miles at threshold, and two miles cool down, but I did not make the six miles at threshold. It was brutal. I have those text messages from you. Yeah, I wanted to quit so bad. I was like, this sucks. It might be easier if you weren't texting. Well, I was texting while I was watching.

Oh. Because the first mile and a half, I think I did in like, 650. And I was like, I blew my wad. It was so bad. I didn't eat that morning. So then I started getting like the shakes and I'm like, it was brutal. Yeah. So I failed that, I guess.

But that's when I was, I texted you and I was just like, I was thinking about that. And then I also thought, you know, Branlin, he's battling cancer right now. And I'm like, oh, my 10 mile run at threshold is hard. Yeah. People are gone through so much hard stuff. I'm like, oh, it's a sunny day. The birds are chirping. Like, yeah, this is hard.

Yeah, no. We got so much to be grateful for. It's like, and you don't think about that. You think about Brandlin, you know, fighting for his health, basically, with cancer. And it just puts it in perspective, you know? And it's just like, or you think about that runner that died at Kokodona.

And we're sitting here. We have our own challenges, but it's temporary, you know? And it's like some of those. things are permanent and you know life-changing yeah and it's like yeah we get too wrapped up in our own little little problems did did you see any like the outfits at the Metgala no I wish I didn't but they're obviously absurd and that's what it's known for but I couldn't help but watch it and it felt like the hunger games and everyone else even in the comments too were like oh this is cool as I'm watching from

District 12 and I'm kidding my little My little rations for bread. I'm like it's it is actually it's kind of dystopian a little bit. We're getting close to that we're getting that's what they want. They want to create these little like smart cities where we don't go anywhere. We get you know our whatever energy credit we have because of our social or our what's that what's that footprint? Yeah, carbon footprint. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how much energy you'll get. Like that's what they want. They want to control every aspect

of our life, take away the freedoms. That's why people like us are the enemy. People like who love freedom and and don't like being told what to do. Yeah, we don't fit in that formula. No. What do you got on your list? Let's see here. CET5. CET5. That was a big thing. Might as well. So me and James the other day we were watching. Don't loop me into this. No, you're way more involved in this than I am. We were watching this YouTube documentary on like UFOs and stuff because we go reel down that rabbit hole. And there's a thing called CET5. Yeah.

And it's basically like these people, they'll meditate, and these orbs will show up. And you can download this app, and you can do the meditation, and when you hope the orb show up. It's pretty wild. This app has, like, a certain sound frequency that plays with it, and you meditate. I suck at meditation. I can't ever quiet my mind. So we each paid the $10, and we download it.

That's how you know it's really got to put it. I'm going to tell the story as it is, but we start doing our meditation. in a house and I look over after about two minutes and James is profusely crying. Wow. Legitimately crying. Really? And he like sits up and he's just like, oh my God.

Like what just happened? I can't even get into a meditated state, but I'm just like, I don't know what. So I don't know. But we're trying to like meditate. And then all of a sudden like I had this out of body experience and I'm going to sound like a fucking hook, but I was all of a sudden transported back in and I was sitting in a teepee and I was talking to this old Native American man and he was like all he was saying was that basically everything that ever has been or will be is meant to happen and like everything's

okay and I wasn't even emotional but I was just crying it was like it was the weirdest thing and I'm like did it seem real 100% real okay that's why and then and then I'm like obviously not asleep I'm still there but like my eyes are open but I'm seeing this it was it was it was I don't know what the fuck is going on. I don't know if I got problems or whatever I need to address, probably. But it was crazy. It was crazy. Wow.

Yeah. No words. And that was an app? You like download this app and it basically is like, but people will go out in groups into like Sedona and they'll do it. And then like supposedly orbs will show up and like. Basically all the app is it just walks you through the meditation, but it's like 20 minutes or whatever.

And it's like a seance. It's like a Ouija board a little bit. It doesn't seem that great. We try to stay away from the Wii Giorps. You want to call in like spirits and shit? I don't know. You got a Native American coming in. Yeah, I don't know.

It was my heart rate slowed way down. Maybe that's, maybe that is meditation. You get into a trance state, but. I don't know. That seems pretty weird. Yeah, I blessed the house. I took the Bible around and blessed the house.

It was a sage. Not a bad idea. Yeah. Well, welcome to this shit talker weekly ad spot. We have ads. Oh, more ads. Good.

What do you got? We have, next week we have a new release of eye-to-eye bear hunting hats. What? Yeah. What does that look like? I don't know. Hmm. Camera 15.

Zoom in. This is to commemorate hunting bear on the ground eye to eye. The design's actually sick. I like the hat. Yeah. And we'll be enacting this tactic next week. Yeah, that's right. We do have a bear hunt. That should be pretty good.

I don't know if we can do better than last year. It'll be tough. Yeah, I know. I don't know if I can shoot my bow. That might be tough. Yeah, when are you supposed to get that off? Well, right now. Is it cast in under there or just wrapped?

I think it's a cast. Yeah, it's a cast. Yeah, I think next Friday. Oh, okay. Yeah. It would be just in time. I know. But, yeah.

And then the other thing is the Bentley, Giveaway is coming. Is it? You know an officer who will respond to me, that would be great. Yeah. So we need a police officer to play an important role in our campaign. And I thought about maybe going the route of some male strippers. Yeah.

They have police costumes. They do with the short shorts. They'll put you in handcuffs. I'd like to just go more legit if we could. I would just be here at Halloween the other day. I mean, they can have, mustaches are fine. Yeah. Just the hot pants.

Maybe wear pants. They can be rip-off pants. That's fine. And chaps? What about chaps? Assless chaps. Not assless chaps. Because all chaps are assless.

That's true. That's true. Yeah. So we need a police officer. Yeah. So, and you will be rewarded handsomely. Yeah. Yeah.

You don't have anything else on your list? Let's see what I have. You got a call. Who's your call coming from? From a police officer. Oh. Who we asked to go on to do it. Literally.

Well, so I actually, it was. I was Keegan. So I got a, I got a name of a guy that I'm supposed to call on Monday that says he'll do it. Okay. We've heard that. We've heard that before, but I'm going to call him on Monday. And we're going to lock it in and make sure that it happens. All right.

What do we have here? Tell us a joke. You're a funny guy. I don't know if I got jokes right here. Here's something. Okay. So me and Jane, we did a little remodeling. Yeah.

On the house. We did a little remodeling. You throw me under the bus. Well, I'm just telling you the truth, you know. James says mid-century moderns coming back. Style-wise. I don't know anything about style, but I'm asking this question to people out there.

Is it concerning if your male roommate is more interested, you know, too interested in style and putting things together and gets really excited to go through shopping and stuff like that? Because what if your roommate walks around butt-ass naked in the mornings? What if your roommate's a twink? These questions are starting to get asked. I'm starting to get a little nervous. What if your roommate comes into your room in the morning, and I'm not talking about entering?

It was one time. Twice, but I was sleeping. Yeah. All fair questions. All fair questions. There are things I'm just trying to figure out. I've never, you know, lived with another roommate before. So.

Yeah. It's a man. Right. And so far so good. topics they're good because after the last podcast some people were saying they gained a little respect for me so we have to bring you back down yeah no we got to screw that up for sure yeah yeah but well you got anything do i no good drama uh got this fixed was that yeah was it yesterday or debut two days two days ago yeah so uh great surgeon actually want to what's her name i want to give her a shout

out woman yeah Really? I know. Steady hands. She's a stud. Let's see here. And Dr. Jenna Godfrey, one of the best hand surgeons at Slowcomb orthopedics. Thank you.

Slow or slow come? Thank you. Excellent work. Me and my thumb was basically disintegrated. Essentially seen by bone fragments and ligaments everywhere. But got it fixed and back in business. I want to know how, who videoed your surgery? me.

Were you awake for it? No. I was like six feet away. Sometimes they'll keep people awake and put a thing and they'll do that. They did. They did. I asked. But they did a nerve block somewhere right here.

And that shit is so tight. Have you ever had a nerve? Or like maybe it's the, what is it where they stop the blood? Like a tourniquet. Turniquet. Maybe that's so tight. Oh, yeah. But it hurts.

So they said the surgery is going to take an hour and to like fight off that. pain of the tourniquet, I think is what it was, is really hard to not move. So I said, all right, fine. So I talked to her and I said, hey, could you give me a couple little clips? She's like, oh, yeah, she's, you know, yeah, we'll make it happen. So that's it. I was thinking that's a HIPAA violation, but I guess if it's you posting. At the client school with it. Yeah, no, I'm good with that. But she did an amazing job. Everybody at Slocum is incredible. That's, that place is, I mean, they're there's good as it gets um but yeah so anyway got that fixed uh you know heads coming back around everything's healing up good you know back in action in no time what else happening out there

yeah just got to go kill a big bear how does that sound sounds great sounds easy with that hat on yeah yeah well um what else we got is that it that's it on my list you have nothing else Eric Gumanhofer, thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, yeah. It'd be the last time. I know. Keep hammering, guys.

See you next time.