Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 196 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 29

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode with Cam and James. They’ll be discussing Cam’s bear hunt at the Rivet’s, OK basketball, a note to Cam from a friend of the show, and more! ... Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Carbs & Re-Feeding & James’ Ultra Running Hate  00:04:57 – Friend of the Show Note to Cam 00:07:03 – Trump Yelling at Bibi Netanyahu 00:08:40 – Oklahoma City Thunder Basketball & Oregon Baseball 00:11:59 – The Downsides to Being Well Known & Famous 00:17:08 – Rivet’s Alberta Bear Hunt Breakdown 00:27:57 – Bear Camp Camaraderie 00:32:27 – Jacob Puzey: Admiration in Thinking Before Speaking 00:35:57 – Upcoming Podcast Guests 00:39:57 – Planning a Sheep Hunt 00:43:28 – Bentley Giveaway Thank you to our sponsors: MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code CAM for 20% off & free shipping Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off  Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% offHoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you haven't already noticed, I'm pretty into routine. I lift, run, and shoot every day. And I usually stick to three meals, big portions, elk meat and potatoes kind of guy. I'm not someone who's constantly fueling throughout the day unless it's coffee or an energy drink. And that's just how I've always operated. But since Mountain Ops sent me their new big sticks, I found myself reaching for something between meals a lot more. I started throwing a couple in my truck to have after a long run at Piska or Spencers. And I'll be honest, they actually taste pretty good, which isn't something I usually say about meat sticks. They're made with whole muscle beef and pork. So the texture and flavor feel like real food, not something overly processed. Each stick has 20 grams of protein, and it's a big one
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Starting point is 00:01:57 head to siksour.com, grab a pair of Zulu Bino's and use code cam for 10% off. Sig Sour Zulu binoculars. See more, miss less, keep hammering. Every step I take, I move my truth. Every time they tell me stop I use. Every comment hate that makes my feel, gather up my energy and boom. I hear them talking, saying the way that I move it's so reckless. That is a part of my mind I've been blessed with.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Giving my blood so I am relentless. We live? We're live. Let's fuck it. Let's do it live. Fuck it. I'll do it live. This is shit talkers weekly. 29.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And I'm fasting. You are. I noticed you looked like really lean. Besides the donut I had this. Well, no, that's it. I mean, that's, uh, what is that called? Oh, no. So here's what you're, refeed.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Now, here's what you used to do. I think I explained this before. But like Nick and Eric, the guy so he used to live with, they were bodybuilders. So they do the like high carb for five days. Oh, yeah. And then two days, your body's used to like crank in that metabolism. Then you take no carbs so that it sucks fat away. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So you go five days high or wait. No, no, it's opposite. Five days low carb, two days max feed like 600 grams. And then five days of no carbs. So your body gets going on the weekends. five days just sucks fat off what if i do i know you like the term sucks fat off i know what if i do seven days of carbolo yeah just 600 grams a day every day i'm a high carb athlete yeah uh that's what chat tells me yeah well that you could try that too but either way you're going to be shredded
Starting point is 00:03:47 that's good we know that yeah well i already am yeah i don't know if you've seen you're going to be more shredded i have a sleeper build oh Yeah. But it's like so sleeper that you can't even see it when it's when my shirt's off. Well, right now you got a, it's called a pump cover. You know that? You know the big guys who are the big fucking sweats? That's her pump cover.
Starting point is 00:04:08 So I got the opposite of a pump cover. Yeah. I like to, I like to wear those too, but I'm not covering it. Yeah, I got no pump cover and no pump. The only thing that's covering a pump is my boxers. Oh, God. Well, we're so back. We are so back.
Starting point is 00:04:27 We're so back. We're canceled. We're a lifetime band. We're, uh, yeah. Yeah. All of it. Life has been good. Yeah, it's good if you're, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:40 If you're used to like, I don't even know what. If you're doing being a, like a meth addict, I guess it's good compared to that in my life. If you're used to having bugs under your skin. Yeah. But if you're used to like a regular life, my life's not that good right now. Well, I thought I'd start this off with some friend of the show news. Oh, good. But actual friends of the show.
Starting point is 00:05:03 A real friend of the show? Yeah. Okay. Clearly it's ultra season because I've been getting a lot of messages of people like, I ran my first 50K, which is super cool. Yeah. But it also always comes with, fuck you, a 50K is a real ultra. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:20 See, you're, this is like you're tainted forever, kind of like I am. now. It's true, so I have to revisit it. And although I'm not going to take my words back, I'm just going to reiterate that it's just as hard, whether it's an ultra or it's not. Marathon's not an ultra. Is it easy? No. Okay. Case closed. A 5K isn't easy if you push that shit. A fucking mile all out isn't easy. I hate those more. Four hundred meters. Isn't that easy? Yeah. Seriously. So I don't know, it's a, yeah, it's a crazy world these days. Yeah, so you guys need to, it's all love. I saw a lot of like epic kick-ass performances just like for people, new people doing first
Starting point is 00:06:08 Ultras. Yeah. And they're just killing it. They're crushing it. I love it. I love people just hungry wanting to improve. And yeah, I mean, it's amazing. Running community is amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:19 One of the guys, he ran like his first 50K and like, like, he ran like his first 50K and like five and a half hours. And I was like, why are you, that's better than me. Fricin good, dude. Why are you worried about what I said on a, I haven't accomplished anything. Shit, dude, that's not bad. I take a five and a half 50K.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I know. Yeah. Which, speaking of which, I'm running one this week just to simulate long running. And five and a half hours is what I'm going to try and do it in. But we're going to, are you going to run it on the track? Yeah. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Buff runner style? Yeah, Buff runner style. Hey, shout out Buff Runner. Friend of the show. You're a beast. You are a beast. We're going to make it happen at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Who do I got? Oh, I got Jacks on Thursday. Did you know that? Did you hear that? Okay. I don't know if they got his... Is he... Are we doing the podcast on Friday?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Is he flying in on Thursday? No, we'll do it all Thursday. Oh, sweet. So we'll get here Thursday morning. Awesome. Well, I have a note, and this is from a friend of the show. And I'm not going to say his name because I do think... He said I could read it.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I think I don't have to. But I'm going to read it because I think it's good. Okay. Cam. And this is just to you. Okay. But I didn't want him to send a bomb, so I had him send it to my address. Smart.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah. Cam, I'm writing thank you notes to close friends and family because I just graduated college. I reflected on the last five years and realized I should write you one because of the impact you had on me. Two years of no alcohol, turned into a runner, and find joy when I'm running outside. Not drinking, or sorry, not drinking at university is not normal, which caused lonely days, weeks, and months. I really do believe my closest friends during those lonely times were you, Rogan, and Truett. I was always able to listen to pods, watch videos, and read your books. Thank you for being my friend. Keep hammering.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Oh, that's really cool. I mean, I can get how hard it'd be to be sober in college because that is like what people do. They're away from home for the first time. They can do whatever they want. Usually they make a lot of terrible fucking decisions and shit they've read. regret. So the fact that he's that young and for two years has taken the hard road, which is not going to parties, not hanging out, not being, you know, I can just speak from experience, a fuck up. And a lot of respect. So that is awesome. I didn't even need college to be a
Starting point is 00:08:38 fuck up. He's like that, uh, the raw milk kid. Yeah. Have you seen that kid? He's like pre-pubescent, but he always has like a plate of a steak in front of him or something. And he goes, goes, why would you go to parties when you can eat raw steak with a godly woman? I don't know about raw steak, but yeah, I'm down. I'm down with all that. Yeah. Anyways. That's good.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And don't give me too much shit on the reading there because his handwriting is atrocious. Yeah. Well, also you can't read. Clearly, college didn't do you that well. All right. Yeah. On to the next, which is before we get into the meat and potatoes. we have to cover a little
Starting point is 00:09:21 a little politics and it's not even politics it's more like a boxing match Trump yelling at Netanyahu did you see that? I don't know if that's real. You don't think so? No, that's a fucking fake story.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I thought if it's not a fake story it's theatrical like they're doing it on purpose. I think it's just they created this narrative and this pushed it out. He's not yelp, fucking he does whatever
Starting point is 00:09:48 it's daddy BB said. Yeah. like there's no maybe be be might chew his ass out in more ways than what yeah because we fucking give them all everything they want and including all the bombs they want to just murder a bunch of kids but yes yeah i i don't believe that shit okay well anyway politics aside yes it's all love it's all love it's all love oh shit it's all love this is a disclaimer this is fiction this is you hey you delivered your line perfect this is a script yeah yeah yeah Good. I spent the last couple days memorizing it.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah, good job. Good job. Line? Six. Oh, no, I was supposed to say the line. Yeah. Fuck. That's from my movie days. Oh. What was the word?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Oh, dangerous. Shit. Yeah, no, this is all love. This is all, none of it's real. So, yeah, don't get your panties in a bind. Yeah, please. Other thing on the list, and this is a big one, the thunder got knocked off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Which I'm not a fan of SGA. Is he straight? I did see a picture of him wearing a sports bra. Oh, it's the spurs, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, me and Tanner were talking about this. So Wimby is like a freak, right? But have you ever seen Shaq highlights?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Do you know what Shaq would do? That fucking toothpick? Dude, he would just, like the admiral, he fucking sent flying. So Wimby is not the admiral. How tall is Wimby? Seven. 11? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I don't know. Shack was, is what, seven one? Seven one. Or seven three? I don't know. I think he's like seven, five or four. He's probably 80 more pounds? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:11:45 80. No, 150 more pounds. That's a big man. And Shaq was athletic. I mean, the only thing is Wimby can pull up from threes. Yeah. And Shaq is out here on the perimeter. Not a threat.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That's not where he needs to be. No, but I think people do forget how much of a beast Shaq was. Oh, my God. He's such a freak. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know how there, I mean, is there any freak big men right now? It's like a shack or like a. Not like a shack.
Starting point is 00:12:17 No, there's no one's shack, obviously. But, yeah, I don't even, big men are not really a thing anymore. Yeah, it's mostly, I mean, the game is really just shooting threes. It's just, yeah, just no defense at threes. Yeah, but I'm a huge, huge, and I can't, I'm a huge Knicks fan. You are? Yeah, well. Just started this year.
Starting point is 00:12:37 That'd be cool if they won. It would be. It's been a minute. It's been a long time. Yeah. That's who I'm rooting for. Yeah. I think I like Brunson, just because he looks sort of like pudgy.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah, and he's got a cool story. Does he? Yeah. But he's fucking good. Yeah, he's really good. Kind of a dog. How can you play a thousand games a year and be pudgy? Yeah, something's going on.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I was like, what the fuck are you eating, dude? That's that high-carved dog. God, is it just Kentucky fried chicken? And I used to get like the extra, extra crispy, which they don't even offer anymore. And rolls and corn and potatoes and gravy. butter butter yeah so if you ate that three times a day three times breakfast lunch and dinner baby i would it's so it was so good yeah um also we got oregon baseball are they doing good i guess huh i don't i don't even know i think i saw a highlight of
Starting point is 00:13:41 something they're playing texas uh is it the playoffs yeah i think so i think they're i think that's their conference championship. I'm probably wrong. It's baseball and it's college baseball. So yeah, it's it's it's down there on the attention. You think it's you think it's beneath NBA? No, because I hate the NBA. Yeah, I did too. So no, Oregon baseball's up there right now, but still it's like it's been fucking busy. Yeah. Hard to keep track of anything. Well, we have one of my talking subjects is I was listening to Theo Vaughn. He had Lewis Capaldi on. He's a singer. He's a singer. kind of like a fat scott Scottish guy he's really funny i don't know if i know him anyway you definitely heard his songs you wouldn't think so looking at him but um they were talking about
Starting point is 00:14:28 something similar to what we were talking about the other day day but like fame and walking into a room and like how when you get to a level of fame you can't walk into a room without anybody already having an expectation of you it's like you either walk in and he was saying you know I walk into a room and I'm either not famous enough, like people just think I'm an asshole who thinks he's way too cool. Or I can't have like any privacy and have any real conversations. Yeah. Which.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It's a cool side out. Which I think is just like a lot of people see fame or being influence or whatever. And they're like, I want that. That's easy. I don't think they want that. So either. I don't think so either. Since.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah. I don't even. know what that's like and I don't like it. I don't like whatever. I'm not even going to say that I have anything, but I just know I wouldn't like that. I mean, even just being an influencer, like a lifestyle influencer going through life. I mean, it's like you think it's easy, but you still got to work and it does a lot of work. No. I mean, do you like being criticized for everything you say and do? Is that fun? I don't think there's anybody out there that doesn't have a hater. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah. And then when you also say a lot of stupid shit and do a lot of stupid shit, that makes it worse. That's where I'm at. Yeah, does that help? Oh, my God. I just, yeah, I don't even know if I could redo things
Starting point is 00:16:07 they could still be working my normal job, to be honest. Fuck, this sucks. Yeah, and I'd be. What would you be doing? Being a fucking, what are those called with where you got the brothel? No, at the gimp suit. You'd be in some gimp suit in somebody's basement. I would be in one less often.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah. Because I still find myself there time to time. Right. How did I get here again? One of those latex suits that collects the sweat. Oh my God. It'd be good weight loss. Yeah, I wouldn't know about that.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I'd just hurt. You'd sweat it out and be like, making weight for wrestling. on my carb diet, my gimp suit. Yeah, I don't, for anybody who thinks they want to be, like, be known or whatever, I'm pretty sure you don't. Yeah, I'm, I think there are a lot of things people don't take into account when they think about that. Oh, man. And even, well, I'm going to sound like an asshole, but I've said this before is like, it's, it's so weird to have people come up and be like, oh, Gideon. And I'm like, I have no idea about your fucking name.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I am a regular dude. Yeah. Like, why? Should introduce yourself. Well, that's the problem with me. I am a regular person too. So like when people talk shit on my page and I talk shit just like a regular dumb fuck, they're like, oh, I can't believe you'd go down to that level. It's like, no, I can.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I can go lower than that. What the fuck are you talking about? You have no idea. I am such a. I'm actually being quite controlled. Yeah. I mean, you thought that was bad? Dude.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So yeah, I'm, I'm. as regular and below average as it gets, which means I can be nuts. Which is my next point, which is like, you know, people send DMs all the time of like, if you guys ever need a regular guy on the pot. Another one? What the fuck would we do with three? God. We got that fucking covered.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah. Hey, we need outliers, dude. We don't need more dipshits. God. No, we don't. So, yeah. We tried it with Eric. We checked that.
Starting point is 00:18:15 three times in it yeah so we hit in the in the dip shit category we're good outlier category we got jacks coming on Thursday yeah okay and we got do you see Aaron so I she was going to be here on like the sixth or seventh but now it's going to be next weekend but she just set the FKT on Shasta two hour 16 minutes what two hours 16 minutes yes and she thinks she could get it done in under two hours how's that even possible i have no idea holy shit but i want to find out i'm going to ask taylor what's the f kt for for diamond let's go get that fucker i mean i can't but she could yeah i mean she must be just we can there she yeah yeah go you go girl get him she must be a super freak i guess yeah so i'm pumped that's uh yeah so we got jacks and her
Starting point is 00:19:10 coming you know sandwich in between the shit talkers dip shit extravaganza. Yeah. We got that covered. Well, we did just get back from bear hunting, so we got to break this down. I talked to the camp yesterday. The camp? Bear camp. I gave him the pre-hunt. Oh, you did on the phone? On FaceTime. They were like, we need your wisdom again. Yeah, John's, John, I was driving back from whites and dropped my bear meet off up there. And he's like, hey, do you want to talk to the guy to the whatever table or camp or whatever? whatever it was. So yeah, we went through the whole thing. Well, we had a good trip. Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome. Um, you had the camp up there. It's, it seems like there's, it's hardly ever
Starting point is 00:19:58 where every person is just solid. I mean, if you're talking, I don't care where you're at, not just camp, just in general. If you're around 10 people, there's going to be one that's like, that guy's a dips shit. I don't ever want to talk to that guy. Yeah, I thought about that. And I think there was still one. I think it was just he's you. Yeah, because when everybody's cool, not everybody's cool. So, but other than you, everyone was super cool. And that was like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:29 Brandon from MKC, we got Travis, we had Ruben, God, who else did we have? We had Riley, who was... Yeah, the camera guy. Camera guy for Brandon. Yeah, he was great. Yeah. All the, I mean, me, you, John Jen Hazel Grizz
Starting point is 00:20:50 Julia and Jetty and Jordan Yeah And everyone is cool Yeah epic week Yeah I told I just told Lisa
Starting point is 00:21:01 I said hey She's sitting on an eight And I said Are you in a tree or on the ground She's like tree I said okay Because there's a bear in there That's going to be an issue
Starting point is 00:21:10 She goes yeah He just walked in And stared right at her and came right to the tree. That little shithead. I said, so I felt better she was in a tree. She brought bear spray tonight because last night he was being a dick. He's an issue.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah, he's, I mean, when he gets bigger, I hope he, normally it's a juvenile bears that kind of feel intimidated by the big boars, so they want to take it out on something smaller. I hope when he gets bigger, he's not like that. Because if he's big and like that, that's an issue. Yeah. Because he's not big enough to shoot right now. He's like a six foot bear. But so she saw that, I guess she saw the big one last night.
Starting point is 00:21:48 He came in like four times and no, or like started coming four times. No shot. No shot. Yeah. Yeah. Man, it is, I feel like the drive gets longer every year. But anyways. The drive?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah. What do you mean? Well, from the airport to which we fly into it to camp. Oh, God, I know. Yeah. To an unknown location. Going back was long. Yeah, fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:12 felt like yeah it was thank god for mcdonalds and that's and i felt different since then yeah yeah yeah that was the starting that was the point i'm a better person now people say i've changed i have a glow about me no but if you get McDonald's so two plain burgers fries and a caramel sunday with the fries dipped in yeah McDonald's why aren't we doing something where the fries come with the dessert maybe that's what jalen brunson eats maybe he has that three times a day because i could that would that starts to make a little more sense yeah but uh yeah i know it's way the fuck out there but um great hunt great camp the rivets john and gin love them uh it's like family and um we had just perfect basically perfect weather the whole time
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah. Last year it poured on, we got soaked sitting a million hours a day. But yeah, so, yeah, just a great, great hunt. Yeah, let's see. What about that first bear? It's kind of cool. First bear. Not on the bait.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, first bear, yeah. He was a big, over seven foot bear and was able to stock up on him and make a good shot. Have you looked at the counting coups yet? Yeah, it's just looking at it. What was it like? I use ketone IQ when I need to stay sharp for the long haul. Long runs, lifting, before I shoot my bow, even when I'm podcasting,
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Starting point is 00:25:57 it's too much. Yeah. That's not for public consumption. No. But I think it'll like where I chase up to the counting coup and I'm right behind you. That part will work. What about the second one? Second one is I'm a little far behind to do like what we wanted to do for that clip.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But I mean, once I'm there, it's good. Were you closer to me on the first one? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I was like 10 yards behind you. Oh, good. Took off with you.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Oh, good, good. Okay. Yeah, I mean, we never really show the county coups. are people I don't really want to talk about what they are but look it up it's it's some other stupid thing I do or it's hard to know why I do the things I do but it means a lot to me yeah I mean I weirdly now look forward to them every time it's so powerful dude it's if I kill something it man I don't know I mean I want to I want to be there.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I mean, you can't really do that with a deer and elk, I guess. But what is it that's different about bears that you're able to do that? I'm not sure. I think I like the danger part of it because a deer and elk are not going to attack you, right? When they're dying, they're trying to get away. and I'm not sure I don't know I don't know if it's just more of a connection
Starting point is 00:27:34 I have with the bears I don't know if it's But I'm not sure you could even catch up to deer or an elk do you think? Eventually you could Yeah I mean if you hit them perfect they're not going to go too far
Starting point is 00:27:45 Maybe it's just because bears are they get into like a defensive so they don't run as far they just find somewhere they can back into and face Basically they want to face their back trail and so they don't And so that's what on the first
Starting point is 00:27:58 or no second one I didn't know if he was all the way. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, but anyway, it's just a powerful thing. It's, it wouldn't, I don't know who would make sense to other than me and I don't care because it's my hunt. Yeah, I mean, I can understand it to a point where it's like, you know, every animal I've filmed
Starting point is 00:28:17 or photographed that that's dead, you know, I always put a hand on him and thank them because, you know, I'm, uh, I don't want to say taking advantage, but that animal dying is helping my career in a way. you know i'm there able to take photos and be a part of the moment so i think it's a a cool way to pay respects to the animal yeah i think that's the biggest thing i think just to that point when they're actually dying it's even more powerful yeah so again if you've never hunt even if you have hunted it probably doesn't make sense i'm just telling you it's for me it's just what i do yeah and is it going to get the best of me at some point probably but
Starting point is 00:28:59 That's the way it goes. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Yeah, so that first bear was awesome, it's different. We were able to stock him and then, yeah, we sat on a bait that we didn't even know it was there. Yeah, it's a camera wasn't working. So we just baited it that morning and thought it looked, whatever, you know, it's where I killed Raven last year,
Starting point is 00:29:22 a big eight footer. And so I thought, well, yeah, let's give it a shot. We don't know if anything's good coming in, but it's always a good area. And we didn't see anything for quite a while. Nothing. For hours. And I do want to talk about that because there's been times
Starting point is 00:29:37 where I'm sitting in a tree stand by myself and you don't see or hear anything and you start fucking off. It's like you'd take a piss or, you know, your safety harness, whatever rattles against the thing and you don't care. But we were dead quiet. Oh, yeah, just because you just never know.
Starting point is 00:29:52 A lot of times those big boars will stand back there and they'll listen. So if you make any noise, they're just like, knew it. Yeah, I'll pass. Yeah, I'm good, but we didn't make any noise. And then I turned back at one time and I saw that boar standing back there in the trees. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And then he didn't, then he went to the left, kind of disappeared. So I turned back around. I was just sitting there, just kind of chilling out. And I think, did you tell me? I had seen him again. Yeah. And then I had seen a much smaller bear that I thought was a cub follow him. So I was like, you know, from a tree stand and through the trees, I was like maybe he wasn't as big as I thought.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's hard on perspective. Yeah. So I told you, oh, it might be a sow with a cub. Yeah, yeah. And no, it was a big sow with a giant boar. So the, what's that called? The ratio was about the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But the initial size of the cub was a six-footer instead of the cub. But, yeah, Bear came in. It was getting kind of late. I mean, last shooting light was about like 1038, I believe, on that day. And I think about 10, 18 is when he finally gave me an opportunity. Then I think, or close to one, I think I shot at about 1020. And, you know, I came to full draw for quite a while because I was like, I almost had a shot at him. But he was like facing me.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And then he turned and he sat. Like the first bear I shot, he was sitting. So I'm like, God, am I going to do another sitting shot? Then he got up and kind of went towards a sow. And then he takes off. kind of the same way that Raven went last year. And, you know, I took off for the counting coup and then halfway there, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 I'm not sure if that was a perfect shot. And chasing a wounded bear with a not perfect shot is usually not great, but so he's standing by a tree right there. And he wasn't down, but I got to him and he went down. And then that was about it. Yeah, and before you shot, he stood up. Yeah, fucker was big. Oh, shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah, so I think I, because this bear's going to go in Rogan Studio, I think I might do it standing because he was eight foot and then standing and then they'd do it on a little pedestal like that. He would be, what would he be, 10 foot tall? I don't know. A black bear? Whatever it is, I mean, you got to show off that chest. Yeah, his chest was huge. Huge.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, just a big bear, but, yeah, epic hunt. Yeah, it was good. I think one of my favorite parts, and like you said earlier, is like, sometimes in hunting camp, you kind of dread coming back because you're like, fuck, I got to talk to this guy. Yeah. But I was excited to go back and talk with everybody and, like, everyone had their own little offshoot conversation. And I felt like there was so much to learn from everybody in camp, you know. Oh, it was, I mean, you know, Travis and amazing businessman, Brandon, you know, like helping to run MKC with Josh and they're just blowing. up. It's like, how could you not learn from those guys? Ruben, an amazing shooter,
Starting point is 00:33:03 and he's, is it vortex? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just, they're all successful, all in different arenas, basically, and you can learn something from all of them. And then I could actually learn a lot from Hazel. She's, I don't know how old she is, like six, but somehow, no, she's like a little encyclopedia. Smarter than me. Definitely smarter than me. Yeah, I was trying to tell her about the tattoo of the angler fish on my cat. and she was like, actually, that's wrong. It's like, shit.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I know. All right, my bad. Yeah, she's the best. I love Hazel. Yeah. Yeah, I just love everybody. This week was, or last week, was incredible. And I just liked the time at the skinning table just after we got back.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They're working on bears. And, you know, some people had never, you know, broke down a bear before. So they don't, if you don't know what to do, then you're holding. a leg and just kind of learning and things. And that helps too. But it's just fun just being with everybody out there. And then like for my second one, I think I turned on some music and yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:09 it's just, fuck, how do you beat that? I don't know if you can. That's the best. If somebody said, hey, could you design your perfect day
Starting point is 00:34:20 to either be running in the mountains or skinning a bear with everybody? Yeah. And it's like, that's, to me, that's all I need. If I could do that every day.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I definitely look forward to that trip every year. It's fun. Yeah. I like the baiting. I like the work. I like the building the blinds. I like the checking trail cameras, seeing what bear's coming in.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Just being close to bear. Being, you know, when else are you ever, like for me to you from a bear? Yeah. And it's just a. Smelling beaver, fish. Fish guts. Yeah. You're, you're, uh, whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:58 whatever you did with that. What was that a little challenge smelling the rotten fish in the bucket? God, that was rank. Sweaty taint by Revlon. Yeah, we're bottling it, actually. Sweaty tape by KHC. Yeah, and I wore Travis's, I don't know how much that. It's got to be close to $100,000 Rolex.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It was a Potech. Yeah, we got a, yeah, we got a kill on that, got some bear blood on it. The watch community definitely pays. picked up that they did so i don't know how you i don't know how you could script a better hunt i don't know i mean they are all scripted you know well this is scripted yeah so me saying that was scripted so you scripted the script yeah so it's like yeah line six but yeah and everybody got a bear oh yeah we went four for four yeah it was sick everybody got a good bore um yeah just a great trip yeah it really was And then we came back to the hotel and we met up with Jacob.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah. Oh, what a good guy. Yeah. Jeez. You know, his brother, Tommy, just the whole family. But I don't, so smart and well-spoken and measured. Yeah. And just the nicest guy ever.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah. What I noticed about him is, and I would love to get better at this, and I've said this forever, but I never think about it, is thinking before you speak. He would take a second before he said something, which I think is really admirable because I basically just word bombing all the time. I think after I say something.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I'll say something and try and find my way while I'm saying it. Or I say something and think like two days later. God, that's the worst. Yeah, no. I think, yeah, just the nicest guy. His kids were there, two of his kids were there. And I just had a great conversation. and then that whole table of a million kids that all got bear.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I think it's like one of their first bear hunts, but they were with their dads. And was it mostly dads? Yeah, I think mostly dads. I think there was a couple moms. But yeah, they were staring or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And I was like, you guys want a picture. And they were like, please, please. Yeah. It's like, he'll take a picture. They were so cool.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And then the girl with the Parker McCollum hoodie got the biggest bear. Yeah. So I don't know. I just, you know, that's, those are my people. And like,
Starting point is 00:37:23 Jacob, he is a race, director in a family of incredible runners jacob uh is it i don't know how to say their last name poohze yeah it's p u z e y and um just i don't know i just can't i just can't say enough good about him yeah uh his little boy who was seven yeah he and i had the same humor which is made me i said his poop poop and farts yeah makes sense he was killing me though he was down there telling the stories and he could not finish the story without dying laughing A lot of what I do, and you guys give me hate for it.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah. And you were down there eating off the kids' menu with macaron and cheese and hot dogs, and I had a rib eye, and Jacob had a rib eye. The mac and cheese was so good. I bet. Yeah, carboload. I did those 600 grams. Dude, get it.
Starting point is 00:38:10 You know? Get it. But, yeah, so we got some cool things coming up, too. Some things for the viewers, the fam, the friends of the show to look forward to. What? Well, we have the podcast with Jacks. Oh, yeah. And then aren't you going to be a guest on somebody's podcast?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Oh, yeah, I'm not talking about that, though. Okay, we're not doing that. No, yeah. But stay tuned. Stay tuned. For nothing. Actually, we cut that part of the script. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah, we got that coming, nothing, and that's all. We got big things of nothing coming. And I'm running a 50K this week. When? This weekend or week? I was going to wake up at like 4 a.m. and do it tomorrow probably Thursday wait is tomorrow Wednesday yeah no Thursday we got jacks oh yeah so tomorrow okay well I got to go to the store yeah carb load yeah I got to get some jails
Starting point is 00:39:07 I'm just I plan on just going out five and a half miles coming back five and a half miles to the house that's 11 yeah and then doing that three times okay so yeah sounds easy sounds good on paper it sounds like at 22 when I'm back at the house. Yeah. And I have every reason to just say, it's good enough. Yeah. Because 22 is a good day.
Starting point is 00:39:32 That's going to be the test. Yeah. That third one. So we'll see how that goes. But I know I don't want to do it in the heat. So we'll see. Remember when I used to build a race? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Do you miss it? Speaking of which, In the next lifetime, I'll be good to go. I think it's just for this lifetime. That's true. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I didn't think about that. Look out of the next life. But I will say, if you guys thought my 50K take was bad and pissed you off, if I do this 100K, you're not going to like what I have to say. Yeah. You're going to say 100Ks don't count? Holy shit. If I'm able to do them, fuck.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah. Well, I guess you can't say, because I always say I'm not a runner. Yeah, I'm definitely not. Well, yeah, now I guess I have to, I don't know. I'm like, you kind of are a runner. I mean, if I'm getting a lifetime ban, they don't ban non-runners, do they? The first non-runner banned. The first bowhunter banned by a USADA.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I don't even know what's going on. Yeah, that didn't. It's all good. Yeah, it's all love. It's all love. You know what? Yeah, big love for them. For a friend of the show, everyone.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Their association. I love all of them. Big love for Big Yahoo. Bibi, big love. Um, who else do we got big love for? Everyone? Um, yeah, everyone. I got big love for Ronnie up at White's, uh, custom meats.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He's working, doing his magic on my bear. Yeah, what'd you get? Uh, getting done. Yeah. I'm getting a jerky, a third jerky, a third pepperoni, a third sausage. Ooh. So it's a good mix. It's going to be good shit.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah. Yeah. So that was fun. I do got to show you this before we log off. Yeah. This was 2022. If you just want to know what I used to do. What is that?
Starting point is 00:41:36 Is that you and Eric? Who is that? So far before I fucking met Eric. That's it back in Bozeman. Oh. Or here's a good one. Yeah, this is the same night. Do you think I was a little inebriated?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Jeez. You got cutoffs. Cutoffs? Cutoffs. Mutton chops. That's sick. What were you doing? just getting butt-fucked everywhere. I mean, it's all love.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I don't, I don't want to judge it. What I meant, making love. I think that's it. That's all I got on my list. Really? Yeah. Well, good. Good, because I'm tired of talking.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I've been talking all day. I'm tired, grandpa. Yeah. Why have you been talking? Fuck. Me? I don't know. Meetings.
Starting point is 00:42:33 You have another podcast I don't know about? No. Just we got some camo drama. Careful. Oh yeah. Never mind. So that's good. That's going to be.
Starting point is 00:42:46 That's going to be. Clip that. We're going to need a clip of that. Yeah. I hope. So Lisa and Savannah are up there right now. Hope they get big bear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Be sick. Girls trip. well, two girls trip. Dude, there's freaking giants. Giants running around right now. Like, why did I shoot that tiny seven footer? We could still be there. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:12 What the fuck? I don't know. But next year. You win some, you lose some. Yeah. Oh, it's another thing. So I got my sheep hunt squared away. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah. So also, if, so doing a stone sheep hunt And if it goes well, then he said, hey, would you be interested in a goat? If we get the sheep killed early and I said, fuck yeah, let's do it. So that would be an epic double. That would be an epic.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I don't know if anybody's ever got with a bow, a stone sheep and a Rocky Mountain goat on the same hunt. Yeah, it'd be pretty wild. That'd be sick. And also I asked him, I said, how about is this country like bow huntable? because sometimes it's super wide open.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It's just terrible bow hunting. But he goes, yeah, yeah, it's good bow hunting. And I said, has there been any bow kills? He's like, well, yeah, we've had bow hunters. They're usually bow hunters for about two days, which that's usually how it goes. Like, oh, this is impossible. Where's that rifle?
Starting point is 00:44:21 What's a nice bow you got there? Let me check it out. Yeah, yeah. Or no, nice rifle you got there. Well, but he'd call it a bow. Oh, oh, yeah. some people the long range bow the long range bow yeah the the boom bow and then uh tanner got a chance to go up and work at bushwhacker so that was cool um that he was able to go on a and help pack on a
Starting point is 00:44:42 brown bear hunt so loved it pretty oh yeah he fucking lives for that shit and he did a good job so you know that's cool you know what else they call rifles what white man's boomstick who was that they just said that That's a pharmaceutical. Yeah. So yeah, Tanner had an epic, like in an actual real Alaska
Starting point is 00:45:14 brown bear hunt. Those are legit. Those are legit. But yeah, then we're doing a sheep hunt, and that's always legit. So it's going to be me, you,
Starting point is 00:45:27 Wes, and the guide. Wes is a, he's a badass. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That'll be a good, good trip. But yeah, so anyway, got some good stuff coming. Yeah. That's about it. Stay tuned. That's about all I had. That's all I have. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:46 What about the Bentley? Can you win it? Add section. Can you win it? Can I? Can anyone win it? I mean. Theoretically.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Theoretically, yes, anybody could win it. But what you have to do to win this Bentley that you're giving you. giving away. Yeah. Which brand new is a $300,000 car and we put camo flames on it. That reminds me. I think we're given away a bow. No. We gave one away. Oh, no. Yeah, I know, but I think a uh, Rolex with it, are we? Is this breaking news? Should be a live tracking link for you to easily see six and I'm sure we cry. Oh, I don't know if this is it. But we might be given away a Rolex too. with the with the billy. Well, let me finish my ad.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Okay, go ahead. If you want to win the sick Bentley, which brand new is worth $300,000 and it has Cameron Haynes camo wrapped on the front, go to Cameronhaines.com. What is the like the Viagra commercials when it's like the symptoms at the end? Oh. You do experience an erection for longer than four hours. Yeah, we need the disclaimer.
Starting point is 00:47:00 The fine print. The fine print. You could have like an erection more than four hours driving that thing. You probably will. Yeah. You hear the home of that engine? Fuchs up steering. Man.
Starting point is 00:47:12 A steering wheel just like catching on it. You might rub your tip wrong. That'd be careful. If there's a little smear on the steering wheel, you know. Yeah. Don't worry about that. Yeah. But yeah, I hope I can't wait for somebody to win that thing.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So what if we did the Bentley, 10,000 cash? And a Rolex? I kind of sounds like we need to shoot a music video. Oh, yeah. When is that finished? Oh, we're trying to do the cop shoot next week, or like early next week. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:42 But what was it going to say? Yeah. So anyway, it's a pretty sick price. If you want to be a baller and you probably sell it all. But if you want to be a baller for a little bit. Yeah. You got a date? Come on.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Dude, I love driving that thing. It's freaking nuts. It might be the nicest ride I've ever been in. It not just price-wise, but the way it drives. It's like you can go, it feels like you can go 1,000 miles an hour. Yeah. I mean, every time you're going like 100 in a school zone. But what was that car I drove in Nashville?
Starting point is 00:48:20 Remember Whistle on Diesel's? What was that? Oh, that Ferrari. Yeah. Well, I didn't get to ride in that. That's close. Yeah, that's a sick car. Hugs the road, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:30 That car is nuts, too. But that's like more of a it's definitely not as comfortable. No. You know, Bentley, that Bentley is like a, just like a, you know, the Ferrari is, you got to be kind of serious when you get in that thing. You know like Rolls-Royce have the umbrella that pops out. Yeah. The Bentley has a lotion dispenser. Yeah, I know it's that.
Starting point is 00:48:52 It's out, by the way. I'll refill it. Yeah, so anyway, hope you guys win it. Remember Shit Talkers Weekly. It's all love. No offense. Hopefully no offense taken. This is all scripted. And this is fiction, 100% fiction. Yeah. So now you can pull your panties out of their wad. Keep crammering. Out in the mountains, there's no room for wheat gear. When I'm packing out meat in the heat
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