Cameron Hanes - Keep Hammering Collective - KHC 202 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 30

Episode Date: July 1, 2026

Cam & James unpack a wild mix of sports, pop culture, and personal stories, from James’ first open water swim and Truett’s racing updates to Savannah Bananas baseball, UFC drama, Western States 2026 previews, and ultra running legends like Zach Miller and Harvey Lewis. They also touch on cancel culture, AI Botox celebs, Nadal’s documentary, and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Sponsors & is a 100k an ultra marathon? 00:13:17 – James’ First Open Water Swim 00:14:40 – Savannah Bananas Baseball Team & World Cup Soccer Playoffs 00:17:34 – UFC Dustin Poirier’s Arrest 00:22:10 – Speedland, Cancel Culture, & Hate Against Cam 00:30:43 – Tim Dillon 00:32:35 – Bus Boys Movie 00:33:02 – Cam’s High School Test Scores 00:33:57 – Disclosure Day & Hidden Propaganda 00:37:51 – Rafael Nadal Tennis Documentary on Netflix 00:39:25 – Fake Celebrities: AI and Botox Trends in Hollywood 00:41:24 – FKT’s with Erin Ton 00:43:39 – Chris Burandt, Kyle Cokinos, & Marco Langon 00:48:40 – Truett’s Recent Races & Losing Weight to Get Faster 00:52:12 – Run Like a Bentley Giveaway 00:57:07 – Western States 2026 & Ultra Runner Zach Miller 01:00:47 – Mark Dowdle & Harvey Lewis 01:02:32 – Up Next: Prefontaine Run 01:05:35 – Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription ALP: https://alppouch.com/ use code CAM for 10% off your first order Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 10% your order LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 15% off MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code CAM for 20% off & Free Shipping

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Oh, yeah, because we got no shit talk. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess people don't like shit talkers anymore. So this is our final episode. Yeah. Thanks for being here. I mean, if there was, I mean, if we had any momentum going, if you guys were.

The only thing they could do to change my mind is to hit that like button. Oh, smash to subscribe. Leave a comment down below. Yeah, do it. I mean, how else are you going to do it? Balls deep. That's what we want to see. All right.

I'm warming my hands on the mic because it's about to get. hot. Oh shit. It's a bar. You got a hot take going? Um, well, I think there's a, uh, a hot take we got to talk about and we might as well get it out of the way early. I think, I think all the people are wondering, you know, so many people have asked me. Oh, that's any video that starts like that, not one person has asked. Not a single person. The host just wants to talk about whatever the bullshit topic is. So what has everyone been wondering about? Everyone has been wondering. Is 100k a real ultra marathon. Hey, okay, all joking aside, I got like on all the cameras. Yeah, 17th, 19. Dude, everybody knows you're a complete fuck up. Yeah. And that's it. But.

And that's it. End of story. I will say, fucking 62 miles, 100K for you. Top 10 performance. Holy shit, dude. Yeah, I'm kind of a big deal. Actually, I'm racing Western States next year. Holy shit. So. Well, you would have got third non-binary even there. So you wouldn't even have won it. Not even my division. Yeah. Probably worse than third. I just know there's like a couple of them like way up. Pretty quick. Yeah. Third male. And are we drug testing? And I don't know if it's, I don't know if it. So I don't know about what is not. non-bion. I don't even know any of that shit. But they're, what are they, is it non-binary? I don't know what they. Just to be honest, sometimes I get a little confused with Francesco.

No. No. No. Dude, my, did you see my test? My test score? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm fucking. Yeah, you're close. I'm knocking on the door. I mean, I might get pregnant. Fuck. Who knows? Oh. But no, I looked at the third Ryan fucking awesome runner and it said he, they. So I'm just like, okay, whatever. And then there's another, is it, what's a girl's name that's really good? Got a second.

Oh. Just look. It's not Rye, is it? Is it Rye? Not to look at it. But anyways, she was in the female. She fucking kicked out. So I don't understand.

I don't understand how that works either. If I say my pronouns are they, them, does that make me non-binary? I guess. Is that how that works? Okay. Leave a comment down below. You're asking a fucking,

you're lucky I'm not eating dog share right now. Let alone being able to figure out hard questions. What does it say? I think she got second or third. It's only giving me the men. Oh, there we go. Riley? Yeah, Riley Brady.

Yeah, yeah, Riley Brady. Yeah. Awesome runner. Both of them kicked ass. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. For you, for not, if they are non-binary, I don't know if they are, but whatever they identify.

Congratulations. Yep. Fucking awesome run. And just because of how this episode's kind of starting off. A little. And the energy in the room, just remember everybody, it's all love. I mean, I am seriously trying to be positive. I mean, you might be surprised.

We're being positive. There's so much love that it comes with. Yeah, it's just, so anyway. Yeah. My point was, you still would have got your ass kicked in your division, but not at your 100K. No, in my division, I got 10th. Oh, that's fucking, that is a good performance.

But yeah. So here's what the people aren't going to like. Okay. I don't think it counts. No. 62 miles? Dude. I don't think it counts and here's why. You, it fucking counts. Here's why. I didn't take inventory. I didn't notice how I was feeling. I didn't count a single mile until I got through the first 50K. And then I just had another 50K left. So really it's just two non-ultras stack together. Two negatives while they do make a positive. Well, no, not adding. You'd have to time time. So you're just adding a 50K to another 50K? No. Doesn't work. Yeah. I mean, it hurts, but I still feel like...

Because you're adding zero to zero. Yeah. And listen, if you're doing 100K, like I said with the 50K, I'm not taking anything away from your accomplishment. It's insane. But, and maybe this is just how my brain works. I'm immediately like 62 miles isn't that much. Like, it's not 100. Now I think you're just being crazy.

Because 62 is legit. Yeah, but I did it. 50K is legit. I've always been on that train. I haven't been, speaking to trains, I haven't ever been, the 50Ks don't count. No, that's great.

Because as I said, I got my ass kicked many times at less than 50K. Well, I think that's where people go wrong is they think if it doesn't count, it doesn't mean your ass gets kicked. I get my ass kicked every Tuesday night. And I'm not even running.

Oh, Tuesday. What's Tuesday? days. Is that boys night? That's poker night. Bo's boys come over and play a little hide the weenie. Where could I put this? My favorite game. Let's see if my pinky fits in there. Yeah. But now it was good. This one just started off really good. But now it's. No, this has been great. Oh, so good. Yeah. Okay. I think we're good. Yeah. It's all love. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Good performance. I was impressed.

You fucking, I was said the other day, I don't know who I was saying it to. Who's our last guest? Chris, when he was here, you might be a fucking decent runner. I don't know about that. I don't know. I know I said I definitely have to get tougher, just being able to deal with the pain a little bit. Because at the end, like the last two laps is like, I could still run, but it just hurt so bad. I was just like, I'm just going to, you know, run walk.

Where? Everywhere. Yeah. mostly my legs. Yeah. And I think I know,

but where? Like hip flexors, kind of, you know, my knees. My feet weren't too bad. They didn't hurt, not even as bad

as they did in the first 50K I did. Did you wear the speed lens? No. Would you try? Hokas. Oh, nice. Stinson's actually,

and I really liked them. I only got like big blister under my pad on my left foot, but it's because there was a rock under there. But I think, I just was like that same shuffle the whole time and my leg started to kind of lock up

and so maybe I need to do different paces stride it out a little bit or something to keep them from doing that but it hurt I didn't think I was gonna finish from lap one I didn't want to be there I was like this fucking sucks but yeah it was somehow one lap at a time no I think that that is hard where the terrain there wasn't much up and down

so you don't yeah right you don't get or was there yeah no it was like i think uh just shy at 3 600 feet there was like one big pole coming out of the aid station and that and then you go down and it was done so well that at least that broke up a little bit oh that was my favorite part yeah different feel i was like oh i get to at least kind of like power hike the beginning right you know yeah that's that's sometimes those flat races it's just the same movement over and over and over and it does fatigue different yeah the same the same place on your body yeah so i'm sure i'll have people hating on me because it's not real, but whatever.

No, no. I was impressed, dude. Fucking top 10, 100K, first 100K, it's awesome. It'll be probably the only top 10 I ever get. Yeah. More than most. Well, I also, this is just kind of along the same lines, but did my first open water swim today?

Oh, really? Why do I feel like there's a shark in the middle of the lake that's just waiting to be? So is, I thought open water was ocean. I think it technically is anything that's not a pool. Really? I think so. Oh, okay. Maybe I'm going to get.

We'd always say like if we're hunting on Codiac and we're out like in the ocean, that was open water. Yeah, I guess that makes more sense. But like technically the size of Jenny Lake is open water because it's, you know, a mile and a half across. So I don't know. I was on a, I did a hunt. Let's see.

I killed a, I don't know what caribou it is, but I killed one. I think in Northwest Territories. Anyway, we had to go out on this lake and it was fucking huge and it had huge waves. I thought we were gonna sink. So to your point on big enough lake, open water,

it was like waves out there and we couldn't even make it back to camp and this is a fucking lake. Is that when you guys had like a fucked up raft or something? No, that was me and Royon Codiac. This was with the Eastman's and we ended up sleeping like in a grain silo up there. like just on the lake because it was nasty.

And that's just, so I get it. Yeah. You had to swim in that shit? Yeah. Well, switching it up. We're going to talk about a little something I think. And let me get your opinion on this. How do you feel about the Savannah bananas?

Because they're in town right now. God, I did not know they were as popular as they are. What the hell is that? I don't know, but I think it's a little homoerotic. It's packed around. I mean, traffic is crazy. I know. I don't know if there's any guys going, but there's definitely middle-aged women who love that shit.

What? Is it all hot guys? Yeah, but they're up there like pitching with their shirts off and doing little dances. That's not right. No, and it pisses me out because, of course, I'm, you know, hard the whole time. Yeah. Then you get lightheaded. That sucks.

I have to call my doctor because I've had an erection for more than four hours. Four hours, yeah. You got that's why you can't go too early. Yeah, that's a good point. You got to time it. Catch the later innings. Yeah, so you're only right, right under four hours of erection time. Something else I don't watch.

Have you been keeping up with the World Cup? You watch soccer? Fuck no. Don't they call it football? Football. Football. No. I haven't, I fucking don't watch soccer.

The only soccer thing I've ever, okay. I did because it's whatever in my algorithm. I saw some messy fucking penalty kicks that were pretty sick. Yeah. The ones that go like, they got all the guys lined up and they jump up. And the ball like misses it. The guy in the far side and somehow goes in.

Yeah. Bend it like Beckham. Yeah. Yeah. I just know that like I've seen all the patriotism like a people rooting for a America. And then we have a bunch of like foreigners coming over and they're experiencing America for the first time. And their country's propaganda is like America's terrible. Yeah. And they're all like America's great. They have ranch and buckies and Walmart. So how do you beat that? Yeah.

You can't. No. It's a the only soccer thing I ever remember is now I don't remember her name. I don't think but she made that one goal did something went running took her shirt off and slid the sports bra you know and it's like that's all i remember yeah is there more to soccer than that well i kind of think the women's soccer players are tougher the men are always flopping it's like a bunch of lebrons out there yeah i mean i wouldn't want to fight that one who's that one with the pink hair that's always causing fucking social justice issues oh yeah Well, she'd probably kick my ass, especially in my low tea. I think, yeah, she's probably got a higher tea than us.

Probably. Yeah, no shit. What else? We got a lot to catch up on. Yeah, we do. It's been a bit. We've had too many fucking good guests. I know.

Now we've got to bring it back down to our level. Well, we've got to talk about Dustin Porier's arrest. It's going to be bad, my ninja. I saw Sean Strickland already had a shirt that's of that. Did he? Yeah, but it didn't say Ninja. It said what he said. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. I mean, he takes, is he taking off his backpack?

He's ready to, one clip I saw he said, like, to the like the girls working at the desk, he's going to fuck him. Was that? Was that part of this? I guess he was just doing whatever he could. I will say as a cop. Yeah.

It'd be kind of scary, having Dustin Porrier drunk coming at you. Well, he was back in. up. Yeah. He had his taser out. He called for backup and like hid behind the other guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was, uh, I don't know. I feel bad, you know, because I can't say I would be any different. No. I mean, when you've done something your whole life and it's you're like at the pinnacle of excitement and performance and a fight, I mean, if anybody's ever been in a fight, dude, so much adrenaline, so much emotion. Yeah. And then so you. So,

take that all that away from somebody who's done it their whole life had amazing success has been known as the diamond and fucking huge fan base and now now what he retired now what at 30 some years old what the fuck do you do with your whole life to get that to match that level of anything yeah of purpose too yeah for sure a purpose of excitement of just you know having a goal like wanting to be champion training every day that is your so as you said that's your purpose so now what i guess fuck it's tough pick up the bottle in the airport god fight everybody i you know because here what happens is of course there is no as easy answer to that so they unretire go and we know how that goes yeah it's you unless you're john jones it's usually fucking terrible it's usually a farewell tour yeah and you just

start getting the shit kicked out of you. And whatever, you know, CTE you might have had just gets 10 times worse. Yeah, because you take tons of extra shots you didn't need to the head. Yeah. I don't know. It's, uh, I feel bad for him. I do too, because I think Dustin's actually a pretty good guy. Or at least I know he has a lot of, he does, you know,

donates a lot and works with charities and things like that. So not the best look, but also I can understand it. I get it. I just, I'm, because even big. those guys get a job in the booth and they call fights or the interview fighters, how fucking boring's that? I mean, at least you're doing something now. Yeah, I don't know.

I just don't think you'll, what could you possibly do? Bo hunt, grizzlies. I mean, seriously, it's like that would be, I don't know what else. I mean, it's the same as like, you know, guys in the military who have deployed and come back and they're just expected to assimilate to people complaining that, the, you know, their thing doesn't scan and the self-checkout line. Or somebody took a peptide. Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Uh-oh. Trigger warning. No. But yeah, it is hard. So that's, I think then they get into like the fucking squirrel suit stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah. And when all that goes.

But it's, it's, it's, I don't know. I feel like it's either that or drugs and alcohol. I mean, look at Nick Diaz. He's doing fucking terrible. I haven't seen him in a while. I think he's got, he's drinking and doing drugs too. For a while he wanted to come up and do the show and I wanted him to. Yeah.

It's hard nailing those guys down on anything. Nick's the older brother, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think Nate's doing better. Nate's doing good, yeah. But Nick, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've been a fan, but fighting your whole life, it's fucking tough to walk away.

Yeah, it is. And he lost, you know, five years of his prime for, smoking pot they suspended him I mean at least I would hate to be a person who spent time in prison because of pot

now it's legal but yeah that's got to be some he lost five years of prime of his career yeah that's tough well do we want to talk about that certain podcast

which he sent me oh god because that shit was infuriating I'm wondering if I don't know if I even, maybe I still have it here. Maybe we can play. Let me see. Let me see where this is at.

Oh, here we go. Let me see. Near where he lives, Mount Piska. And yeah, I mean, he's an incredible athlete, older gentleman. I think he's, what, 58? He is 58, yeah. And he's been in endurance sports for about 20 plus years down. And he's run some big things like Leadville, Bigfoot 200, Moab.

Up 240, Coca-Dona 250. So he's done some big things. Yeah. And I'll just say off the bat, like his whole vibe does not, I don't love it, is Cameron Haynes whole vibe and Speedland keeping working with them is one of the reasons I decided not to continue representing Speedland as an ambassador. Right. It's because I felt they were leaning very heavy into Cameron Haynes.

They produced, I think, three shoes with him and just like one shoe. from a bunch of other people. And I just didn't, you know, I don't have any problem with Cam. Oh, don't have any problem with Cam. Are we sure that we stopped working with them for that reason and not because your podcast gets no listens and only one comment? That's just my question. Well, I like, I have no problem with Cam, but I'm going to quit if you guys keep doing

stuff with them. That's a cancel culture. Yeah, but it's like, does a guy not understand business? No. He wants speed land. This is confusing. What I don't, you know, this is what, so I've been dealing with whatever in Ultra forever, right? I just have always felt they don't like people like me.

Of course not. It's tribalism and it's whatever, but they pretend until they get an excuse to hate. Like I gave them an excuse with the BPC. right. So they've pretended okay like yeah we everyone's welcome everyone's don't be toxic we love everyone and everyone's inclusive and and non-judgmental except for people for me yeah or people like me. This is and this is the people on the left who are supposed to be this you know loving inclusive yeah and just like we don't judge. Oh and that co-host whoever she is is just talking about, you know, he's like the baseball hat, black t-shirt, beard, the Rogan

Manosphere. And I'm just like, holy shit. So anyway, that's, that's ultra right there. There you go. Black t-shirt? Yeah. Oh, my favorite part of it is that we're no longer allowed to say wife. We have to say partner because that's degrading.

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a partner, it probably means she still has her penis. And it's all love. I mean, I seriously have really, I don't know. I'm not perfect, but God, I don't, I try to see, I go to these races, I see everybody, I listen to all the shit, and I'm fine. Yeah. I fucking do not care.

If you're a guy and you love making out with another guy, fucking go for it. I don't give a fuck. But they pretend like they're, you know, better than everyone, apparently. Yeah. And, but they're the most fucking, and, and, okay, I need my notes from, uh, Rogan where I said, be positive, be nice. Yeah. God.

I really don't want to fucking go off. But I let these fuckers have, how long has it been now? A month, over a month? Yeah. And I'm like, you know, just put up my blood test the other day. I've been so fucking transparent about what. I've done. Yeah, it was two fucking years ago with my foot. Yes, I haven't been taking testosterone, so I'm at 162. What the fuck are you guys talking about with this doping bullshit? What are you

talking about? Nothing. I'm fucking so low on air. I don't, I take nothing. I can fucking run better than I ever have. Is that the problem? Yeah. That's the problem. Because there's no fucking dope in me. No. But there's no PEDs. I haven't had what people would call a PED and fucking I don't even know when. But does that give them something to talk about if they say, oh, case closed, it actually was a false alarm? No. So you have your little podcast and they want to get some views and some clicks.

And they did that. Yeah. And, you know. I hope it worked. But yeah. Yeah. It's just, you know, I let them, mostly I let it go. And like I had that blood test for a long time that I put up on my story yesterday for a couple

weeks anyway. And I'm just like, I just kind of like seeing what the real, what the real feelings are. And I, there's even some good podcast, which that I really like and I like the host, but so lazy on the take. So lazy on that no nuance wouldn't want to talk to me at all and just say, doping has no place in ultra. Yeah. It's like, what, what can you fucking maybe talk to me, ask me? Or at least have an open conversation about it about the nuance because there is a lot of nuance and there also is that is a conversation that needs to happen but apparently people aren't ready still to have conversations should have known but it's all right i mean point is i'm gonna fucking keep running and i'm gonna probably get even faster and then i don't know what it's gonna happen you think that'll

make them happy i can't wait they'll have more shit to talk about i can't well speaking of dudes making out with dudes yeah did you know that friend of the show tim dillon is gay I did. I didn't. You didn't know that? No. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Which makes him, I think, even funnier, some of his takes and the shit he talks about. Yeah. But what I love about it is, it's not his whole personality. No. Well, you didn't even know it. Exactly. And how much have you watched? A lot.

Right. That's just cool. And guess what? I will continue watching it because I don't give a fuck. Yeah. But I just think that's like, oh, yeah, I didn't make it his whole personality because he has other personality to fucking offer. Yeah. No, I mean, anybody who, like, in their bio, they're putting that shit, come on.

I mean, do I put, I'm straight in my bio? Or do you put, you pretend to be straight in your bio? No. I'm going to get busted for long about my sexuality. Yeah. No, I, yeah, Tim is, Tim is the best. And isn't that where I stole friend of the show from? Yeah, yeah, that's why I had to say friend of the show.

I love Tim. Yeah. But yeah, I don't, I don't give a fuck straight gay by, um, no, part drag queen. Drag queen. Yeah. I mean, I got beat up by my own community for even being around Patagonia. And I'm like, I just block people. I'm like, shut the fuck up.

Those are people on my people. Yeah. And I block them. Because it's just dumb. This fucking tribalism is dumb. I don't give a fuck. Why do you? And I'm supposed to be the one who, you know,

Who cares? We're supposed to be exclusive. Yeah. We're supposed to be the fucking bigot, racist, Nazis. And I'm not, I block people who, who want to judge others. Fuck. Yeah. You fucking dorks.

It's backwards. But I figured that out because I was watching Bus Boys, Theo Vaughan's new movie. I love Theo Vaughan. He's probably the podcast. I know where this is, when it starts off like that, we know what the, I didn't like the the Rotten Tomatoes score is going to be. Yeah, it's not good. What was it?

Out of 100. 25. I mean, it was, I didn't finish it. That reminds me of my high school test scores. Somehow I got straight A's. What? I did. So you've just been LARPing as like somebody who didn't like school?

Because when I talk about I was bad at school, my, I barely graduated because I had too many Fs. Yeah, no, for whatever reason. And I always did good in school. Teacher's pet. Yeah. No. I remember one time I went up and got some award for, I think, for straight A's. What?

Yeah. And my English lit professor, uh, haller said, he cheats. That's pretty good. So yeah, I was never supposed to be like smart. Because look. Look at me. I mean, but yeah. So whatever.

whatever, fuck it's school. That's good. I never did one ounce of homework. I didn't either. Well, the other movie I watched was Disclosure Day. What's that? Steven Spielberg. It's about disclosing the information we have on aliens.

It's supposed to be fictional, but I'm pretty sure it's just a documentary. Is this part of the distraction for the peasants? This is where I was going with this. It is in the theater, all the previews, like I want to say three out of the four movies that there are previews for bar the Odyssey was how to do with child trafficking or pedophiles. And how fucking convenient is that? It's like, let's make movies about it,

so it kind of lessens the blow. Yeah. It's, it was kind of like, I don't know, disturbed me a little bit. What do they do when they kind of get you used to it? Yeah, yeah. What's that called? Desensitized.

Or condition us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like movies condition us to what real life. So you'll look at some of these old movies like, I think there's one, God, what is that movie? I think it was Nicholas Cage. I wish I could remember what it was. But there's a guy, his name was chart, I think, something like almost like Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, I think so. It's shot in the neck in the movie. So basically, it feels like Hollywood does all this shit to get us kind of used to it, make everybody gay in every fucking movie, make it. make, you know, all this child trafficking, all this, you know, just to get us like, oh, that's, yeah, it happens. Yeah. That's okay. They make movies about it.

Yeah, they make movies. It's whatever. Yeah. Well, in Disclosure Day, there's like this private company, this private sector company that owns all the information about aliens and has for the last 70 years. It's Lockheed Martin in Israel. Wait, I'm not allowed to talk about Israel. Oh, God.

My girlfriend said so. Yeah. Because if they are going to come after me, they'll come after her. And they're not, the only ones, never mind. I can, I don't want to talk about people coming after people. You know what I've been dealing with. I know. Were you allowed to say that anything about that?

No. Okay. It's, yeah, I don't know. It's just, I want to talk about it, but. Let's just, maybe we'll just say this. On the internet. There are consequences for your actions. Listen to those words.

And take them to heart. Yes. Because somebody... Fuck around and find out. Yeah, they did. And it wasn't good. Big time. Yeah.

So I understand everybody's got a hot take. I understand how these takes can upset certain groups or certain people or certain individuals. but just settle down don't get fucking crazy yes don't say crazy shit and stop getting so upset about shit maybe that's easy to say we're the ones over here ruffling some feathers or whatever but i don't know i guess i've been upset about shit too but not you didn't say the stuff like never yeah because i would never fucking say that to somebody but just be smart people just just just fucking i know everybody wants to you want to say stuff that's going to hurt people or make an impact or like be like get him to think but

or get or scared or uh maybe shut up because you don't like what they say but don't cross the line no it's all i'd say it's also a free country people well because people can say what they want to a certain point and then there are consequences but all right well i have one other film piece of a piece of film to um review and you finally watched it which was nadal's documentary yeah that's good since we talked about some documentaries on here we got to talk about this one if you don't play tennis it's still great if you're going to watch a documentary on tennis Nadal is probably the one to watch yeah no what what what i mean been through so much yeah and that i mean fucking tough sport holy shit

shit like when he started off like i think it was just he got called up to that one big match i think he was 18 and i can't remember who he's playing you probably do but like it started off with a few are the aces or what are they called when it's the serve and you don't even return yeah it's an ace yeah started off like a few of those yeah he was not fucking ready no and then i think he turned it into like a hell of a match didn't he yeah so yeah he he goes down one set fights his way back and that's when it started raining. Yeah. And he goes back and tells his uncle, you know, you don't have to make it rain anymore.

Oh, that's right. He's not going to lose. His uncle said if he's going to lose, he'll hope, don't worry, he'll make it rain. Yeah. There was a rain delay. And, and, but that was when he was kind of coming back. Yeah. The momentum was switching a little bit.

Yep. And then, yeah, so he said at that break that, don't worry, I'm going to win. Pretty awesome. Yeah. But, that's documentary. It's all this AI fucking everything's fake. It's like documentaries at least, at least tell a real story. Give me something real.

And about a real person, you know, we were just talking about like in Disclosure Day, Emily Blunt was like, I don't know. I understand it's always been that Hollywood actors are kind of the image for vanity in society. But you're also supposed to be playing a person as a role. So like, why do you, why are you trying to look like you're 20 when you're 60, making your face all frozen and fuck that. What movie is this? This is Disclosure Day, but Emily Blood is like, I don't know.

She's obviously gotten Botox to where she like can't wrinkle her forehead or anything. Oh, because I saw, wasn't she in Sicario? Did you see that movie? Yeah. I thought she did good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That must have been before all those shit. Yeah, that was, that was, I thought that was a good movie.

Yeah. I haven't seen her lately, but I do hate the, I mean, I saw, I can't remember what I was watching, but they showed the crowd of somebody and some girl was standing up. All I could see was her fucking stupid lips. Just puffed up, just fucking ridiculous.

Yeah. What are we doing? I would rather have paper thin lips on a girl than fucking fake bicycle pump lips. Yeah. And I don't know how you can think that looks good. Because they're like, I want full lips. Well, when your whole rest of your face goes like this,

then your lips. are like stand by oh fuck I'm breaking up this is it does this look good do you think does that look

does that look well that's what you fucking look like holy shit okay now where's my notes be positive be nice yes yeah

it's all love positivity yeah I hate that stuff I do too um really saggy tits thin lips, wrinkles for the win. Bring it on. For the win. For the win. Um, we got to talk about some

guests we had on, some cool things we did. FKTs with Aaron Tone. Oh. Tonk. Sorry. Yeah. Um, that, that was actually hard. It's actually kind of hard. She is a freak. The amount of time that I had to start beforehand and then didn't even beat you guys by that much. I know. What time do you guys leave here? We left here at 1 a.m. So our plan was to get,

for me and her, was to get to the trailhead. And Taylor and Chris went to, Chris is her boyfriend. Taylor's not my boyfriend, but my brother. And he's a beast. But we went,

we were going to start at six. Yeah. 6 a.m. So you guys left at 1 to make sure you got a head start. Yeah. So we started up the trailhead at like 3.30. Yeah. But you guys didn't start it right at 6.

No, we started at 608 or 9. Yeah. So we had, you know, almost three full hours at Head Start. Yeah. So we got up there and the record was 207 for this is a male, female team fastest ever from is Devil's Lake? Yep. Yeah. Devil's Lake.

to the summit of the South sister and the record was 207 we did it in I think 158. Yeah. Yeah. We got the record there but I didn't know how fast she was going to take off and I was like hoping because I'm old

I'm hoping like hey let's warm up a little bit. Nope. No fucking warm up. So I kind of lost contact for a while with them. Yeah, she was going. I was falling off the back because I'm like I mean, you know,

you blow you. your legs out on that first climb. Oh, yeah. What are you going to have for the summit? Nothing. Caught back up on the bench. You get up there. And then we kind of stuck together and it started to go.

Maybe she slowed down. But man, it was sick. It was a beautiful day. June 14th. The day before that you had to have a permit to climb it on the 15th. But yeah, it was perfect. Perfect Sunday. Yeah.

You already mentioned them, but we did also have Chris Brant. on. Oh yeah. No, I was talking about Chris her boyfriend. Yeah. You know, well, I'm saying you mentioned him earlier in this podcast. I did. Yeah, when you were talking about I might actually be a good runner. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mentioned Chris, man, Macy made a couple reels to promote. Oh, yeah. So good. He's a badass. How the hell do you make a snowmobile do a backflip? I don't know. That's got to be absolutely terrifying. Because those things are big. and heavy. Heavy as shit.

So I saw him like, I know the ramp has to be pretty specific, how it works. But then he's just like leaning all the way back because you got to get that momentum. And then he said, this is what I don't, I understand now because even the guys on the bikes do it. But if like if you're over rotating, you hit the brake and it makes the nose go down. Or if you need, you hit the throttle. And so it makes that momentum go. if you need to keep you to get the rotation but doing all that in this you know split second and i don't know it's rough that is rough yeah but yeah he's a he's a beast i love to i mean what

an amazing personality just a nice guy um just a fucking badass yeah just really really enjoyed yeah it was super nice yeah um we also had kyle on yeah kid koki kid koki also like i don't know know that was i gotta give you credit on that you kind of facilitated that but he's a another one of the probably the most nicest humans you'll ever meet i know so fucking cool and that's what i was so such good people yeah he and i uh he had to change his flight to portland so i drove him up there after the podcast so we had time to have a long conversation and he's just the nicest guy yeah but yeah and then we also had marco on oh shit we haven't done a shit talker since oh that's right Yeah, Marco.

I'm pumped for, you know, he just sent me a text the other day. He's coming back for Prefontein. And he's, his first pro race, and he's like, yeah, I want you to meet my agent, you know, when I come back. And I'm going to see if he can, if I can get fucking healthy after, I'm still, still banked. I had another issue.

I had a ride in an ambulance and to the ER. It's been kind of a rough little stretch for me. Yeah. But aside from that, if I can get healthy, I sort of can run again almost. I want him to pace me to my fastest mile. He'd be a good one to do it. I know, I know. So because we were running, you know, 75s.

I know I was holding five-minute pace with him. So I just wanted to do it a full, complete mile. Have you filmed the whole thing just so we have it all? but he's got his big two-mile race first pro race at pre-fontaine going against the fucking big guns grant fisher just won i think the 5,000 and 12 something at a huge i think a diamond league meet so that's who's in this two-mile also who's Olympic medalist yeah just won that other that big race i just mentioned if marco i mean he says i love his attitude he wants to fucking win right he wants to kick all the pro's asses he says

And that's attitude you have to have, I think. And the difference between him and everybody else is he has attitude and he'll speak it into existence. Some people, they might think that they'd never say it or they might not think that. So, and then for sure wouldn't say it if they didn't believe it. It's like Tiger Woods, before he's playing his first pro tournament and the interview asks him, like, you know, what do you expect from yourself? And he goes, you know, I'd like to win. The interview says, don't you think that's arrogant? And he goes, I figure why show up to a tournament if you don't think you got a chance to win?

Right. Yeah, exactly. It's just that champion mindset. And of course, it doesn't always work because a lot of people there want to win. It's got to be your day. It's got a lot that has to go your way. You have to have the talent. You have to have the training block.

You have to just race smart that day. So, yeah, there's many reasons why it wouldn't work. but if he did win his first pro race that'd be sick oh man i and i was going to tell him too but i want to get a post first um pro race podcast if he has time that would be sick just to just to hear what he and then he could then we could talk about his new deal that he signed as a pro runner and uh give his new sponsor some love and then hear about you know just what the pro life is like yeah so I'd like to do that, but I need to, I'll text them. Well, speaking of races,

Truitt just ran a race. Yeah. Yeah, finally. 10 mile. Fucking Rory Linkletter got him. I think the coaching is finally, not finally. I mean, he finally got a coach, but the coaching would have probably always worked.

I'm glad he chose Rory. Rory seems like he's very supportive, very good, obviously, a huge talent, one of Canada's best ultra, or I mean marathoners, Olympian, and Truitt hired him. So first race under Rory's tutelage, I think is what they'd call it. And Trouillet ran 520s, got third place. And yeah, hell of a hell of a run. His best ever 10-miler.

He was cooking. Yeah, he's cooking. Yeah, that was good to see. I like that. Yeah. And he still, I don't know if you see the picture. Yeah, he still looks fucking jacked. Way too big, dude.

I mean, you look at everybody else. and then you see him. And it's like to get, so he ran 520s today. He's got to run 510s. Yeah. Okay. It's, it's body weight. He's got the talent.

It's just can we get rid of 50? So he's been lifting for 15 years, which is more than half his life. Can he get rid of all that back muscle mostly from the pull us? But his chest looks too big. His arms look too big. He's too wide. He's too. Yeah.

It's just lats. And it's like, can you, and he's still like in the 50s. And like we had, uh, uh, Marco was saying he rate, race his best at 138, you know. Yeah. And he was what, 145? 147. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And still, Truitt's way bigger than that. Yeah. And he, and I mean, Marco said he felt big. Yeah. You know. Nine pounds heavy. So if Truitt could somehow get down in the four, even the high 30s, it'd be a whole different game.

what do you think it would take to shed that weight? I have no idea, dude. Starving yourself? I know, but then does your training decline? Yeah. You can't train hard because then you'll be depleted and you might get hurt. Yeah, that's a really hard formula to figure out, I feel like. Yeah, it's hard knowing you've got to push hard to keep the speed up.

You got to lose weights. You have to be at a deficit. And then you have to not get hurt with all this training. Miserable. Because to get fast, you have to run fast. To run fast with your body depleted is setting yourself up for injury. So it's he's got time. Yeah.

That's what I'm thinking is like his, do you think it would almost be worth focusing on getting the weight down, trying to maintain fitness, not improve, then once the weight is off, go forward with improving that fitness. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. We've talked about all that. Yeah. I assumed so.

And then his last race, which was, oh, I think it was a Utah marathon. He had, it was so frustrated trying to lose weight that he's like, okay, screw it. Maybe I'll just run at 160 and just train better and just, you know, this is what I'm going to turn it. And then that didn't go good. So there's a reason. So he's, I mean, it went good, is still, but it's still 2.30s, which is slow for trying to make the Olympic trials. Yeah.

I mean, there's a reason all those guys look the same. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, that's the next, that's the hardest thing right now is him getting lighter. Yeah. Well, the last thing on my list is to talk about the Bentley giveaway. Ah. Do you, listeners at home want to win a V8 Bentley?

Do you want to see yourself driving around in Cammo Flames in a V8 Bentley? It's a pretty sick car. I'll say that. It is sick. And the ride is unbelievable. Yeah. I know we've said it before, but there's no other way you have a chance to have a Bentley. No, hell, no.

Go enter your email or buy a damn t-shirt. Who cares? I was like, of course you saw, I think you saw. I don't know if you're on that text read, but I get, I want to put up all we've given away just to like kind of remind people that because when I, and I told the team, I said, I want the total of all we've given away. I want everything listed, but I want that total because, and the total I saw that we've given away so far is like $617,000.

But I think it's more because there's like some trucks that aren't even in there that I gave away, which might be more than I make. So I just want to reiterate, I don't know if I, I don't think I make any money. But where I get rewarded is when I look at that number and I see the total of what we've given away, That is my reward. And also I like paying people that work for me.

I try to pay them well. I want to celebrate their talents. I want to give away cool shit like this Bentley or a Rolex or a bow. And at the end of the day, if there's no, none left for me, I don't fucking care. But I think people think that, you know, I do this just to make money. It's like, I'm not very good at the making money part. I'm good at the other shit, making people hate me. Yeah.

I didn't even know you finally got a check from your own company. I never did. I still happen. It's been three years. So you made nothing. No. So tax write-offs. Yeah.

I got those. Nice. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's fun. But I just want to tell people like, you know, they say it's better to give than receive. That's 100%. And it's like it's such a cliche. But for me, that's what all this is about.

Yeah. It's like the more success I have, the better this podcast does, the more eyes we get, the more hate I get, which also means the more support I get. Because even with all this hate on the fucking doping thing, my followers are skyrocketed. So with all that, all I'm saying is like the better we do, the more I can give. And that's what I want to do. I just want to build this up. I want to give away a fucking Bentley every month.

Yeah. I would love that. Yeah. So that's a goal. And calling the winners is always. Oh, fucking love it, dude. Yeah. They shit their pants.

Like it's so cool. Like, and just even to say that somebody won a Rolex because I don't know what that guy, I don't know what he ordered to win it, but that's just awesome. Yeah. Such a sick watch. Oh, it's, I just get off on, on giving. And, yeah, so I want to, I want to show, I want to show the total. I want to talk about what we've done.

I want to, I want to give these Bentley keys to somebody. Can we clip that part? I get off on giving. Yeah, just that. Get off on giving. Oh. That reminds me I was going to say, I can't remember who made that one edit of us making weird sounds. Oh.

Oh, yeah, you do. We canceled him too. Yeah. Or no, I got canceled. Did I get canceled? Or did Truitt get canceled? No, it's Truit. Oh, he got canceled?

Oh, from him. Yeah, from downhill merchant. Yeah, I got canceled. You got canceled too? By a friend of the show. You got your biggest hater. He blocked me. What'd you do?

Existed. I said 50Ks don't count and I hurt his feelings. Honestly, I don't, I totally understand blocking me. I'm probably super annoying. So I will play right into the character. I think it's, I love rage baiting people, unfortunately.

It's a, I think it's funny, but. Yeah. Did you rage bait him? No, I rage bait people on here. though.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. People are like, you know, whatever. Well, now you can't rage beta, because now you got blocked. I know you're fucked. I know he still listens. Yeah. For into the show.

You got a crush on me. Yeah, we're, hey, we're tough. It's all good. It's all love, baby. It's all love. Lucky for me, I got a chance because you call your wife, your partner. I don't, oh, man.

We don't condone that. I'm just kidding. It's all love. Jokes. You can call your partner whatever you want. Yeah. And we support it. Yeah.

Well, that's all I had. Well, I will say, I did, you know, we talked about Western States at the beginning, but they fucking flew yesterday. That's three or no, four runners under the course record. And the podium was all under 14. Yeah, nuts. Because in no runner in 50-some years, I believe, had ever broke 14 hours. And four of them did, including the podium.

So the top three, of course. But I just, I mean, it was a good weather day, but man, these guys are getting fast. And it's this, it's a fueling. I don't know how much the shoes are making a difference in 100 miles. It's not the super shoes like in the marathon or the 10K or the track. But these guys are just better, younger, better science, and fucking flying. Yeah, I was, I mean, Hans obviously blew up.

Yeah. I was, God, I wanted. He was, he was. That's who I thought was going to win. Me too. He's a fucking freak. And I like him. And I watch,

I don't know if you ever watched that documentary in him called The Kid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. I, you know,

he was out by himself, fucking sent it, and then blew up. Yeah. But God, that's how you want to go out with balls. And then Killian,

he dropped. Yep. Jim, who's been the ultrarine goat forever dropped. And it's these young guys. I guess. And they were flying.

I mean, it's like you guys, I can't remember which guest it was, but you guys were saying that, I mean, the 100 miles are turning into freaking track meets too, yeah. That one for, that one for sure,

because the trails aren't, it's just fast. You can run the whole thing. Well, yeah, I mean, sub 14 for 100 miles. Even if you're on flat is fucking impressive.

So, so, I mean, yeah. And they're on that, well, yeah, it's where I broke my foot.

Yeah. Which there are some, yeah. There's some, there's some, But those guys just fly. Yeah. It's just amazing.

And then the woman, Jen Lichter, she, her first 100, she broke Courtney's record. By a minute and 28 seconds, was it? But I did tell Courtney that in that weather, she had around 1510. Yeah. Of course, she would never give, never agree to that. She's always like, oh, they're so amazing. But I'm always, yeah, definitely a Courtney number one fan. but I like to see everybody kicked ass yesterday.

It was crazy, guided it out, great day. I don't know who, I don't remember who the third woman was, but. It was. You have it there? Yeah, it was. I want to give them some love. Marianne Hogan. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And I think she, yeah, she's, I think she pays, maybe she pays Courtney's. I remember I watched something where she was, or, or maybe it was with. with Rachel. But anyway, she's a incredible runner also. Did Jeff Browning end up breaking the range? I don't know, but he did either 16 or 17 hours. Yeah. So I don't know what the record was, but he's, is he 54?

Yeah, yeah. Bronco. And he fucking awesome. I just love, I'm addicted to that live stream and all that shit watching that yesterday. It was so cool. but my favorite of all that, probably one of my favorite male ultra runners is Zach Miller.

Do you know who he is? Did you see his finish? The finish was unreal. That's how he finishes like all his races. I love that. I love that heart. Oh, something we got to talk about speaking of heart is the Midstate Mile

with Mark Dowell, friend of the show, and Harvey Lewis. I love Harvey Lewis. I love Mark, too. Harvey sprinted the finish too. Yeah, I know. So he is this, I think he's left leaning, I'm assuming, but vegan. But he's like, people try to rope him into talking shit about me or whatever. And all he ever says is like, hey, I think we'd have a lot more in common than we have not in common.

And that's true with everybody. If you just give somebody a chance. But he's been so, you know, when they're trying to cancel me, he was always like, So cool. And always trying to get me to come do that race. Because to get a big number, you have to have good competition. Not saying that obviously he did with Mark. Mark's a fucking legend.

But Mark and Harvey put on a show there, broke, you know, set all new course records. But and then just had an epic battle essentially. So cool. Yeah. How you are with Courtney. I am with Mark. I'm Mark's number one. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah, Mark. I think. Me too. I think there's just so much, even as an athlete, he's obviously a legend, but just his character as a person as well is something I think that's super inspiring. As I've said before, I mean, he could be my kid and I want to be more like a kid. I have no idea how you can be that smart, well-rounded, just have just a great well-spoken mindset and be 20-some years old.

Fuck you. Yeah, it's not me. Yeah. you, Mark. Yeah, Mark, show off. No, I want to get, I want to get Mark on the podcast for sure. Yeah, we got a lot of people we need to get on the podcast. So why don't you facilitate that too. Okay. I will. Do it. Yeah. Do it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't know what we got coming up next. Uh, I think pre Fontaine. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But. So yeah, Marco asked if I was going to be there. And I said, I didn't know. Or if we were going to be there. I said,

I don't know. Oh, yeah, I can get tickets or unless I'm banned from that too. They'll see what you saw to says. Yeah. I don't know if he wanted me to take photos or something. Yeah, I mean, I know he was, he loved your photos. Yeah, that's good. I'm glad. I'm glad you could have my photos. Your self-timers. Yeah, not yours. But, but yeah. I didn't have the heart to tell him. I think, um, I think we might, might do diamond this week. I was thinking about doing that a couple times, maybe. But you've never been up there. You need to get up there. Yeah.

And that plus for your little fucking thing, you need to get ready. Yeah. Maybe that'd be good. Maybe. Yeah. Got some shitty weather, but. Shitty weather would make it fun. It would.

Yeah. It's a nice little grind. And nobody's ever up there because it's so far off the highway. It's just hard to get to. Yeah, that'd be fun. I talked to this guy at church that he tried to get to the summit. He was asking, they came in from the rock pie. And, yeah, just there's just not a great trail up there.

It's not like the South Sister Trail that a million people go up. But, yeah, let's go do that. I saw the Grand Teton got hammered with snow yesterday. Did it? That's not great. No, but it'll melt, hopefully. It should. I mean, it's fucking June.

Yeah, but the temps are staying really cold up there. Yeah. It's like highs of like high 40s. Is it 13,000? Yeah, 137. And you say that top is pretty, is it technical? There's a couple, yeah, there's a couple sections that are like, for someone who's not used to exposure, you might shit your pants, but the hand holds and the foot placements are all good. Oh, okay.

But it's considered real climbing, like it's graded real climbing. It's normally it's coming down. Yeah. Because going up is like you can take your time. You got gravity. You can help you get. But coming down is where people. My only worry is just like, I want to get up there early enough.

Like I'm starting at 2 a.m. because I don't want to deal with the fucking string of people. I mean, having to weave around people doing that is, well, it's not going to be fun. What time are you going to go? 2 a.m. 2, yeah. So that should put me at the summit at like 10 a.m. So. I'd say most people probably start early, right?

Yeah. Most people go up and sleep on the moraine or in the guide little yurts. Right. And then they start. So we'll see. Yeah. Like on the South Sister, did you see people going early? No.

Nobody? I mean, I had the summit to myself. Oh, okay. Yeah, which was super nice. It was quiet that day up there. I saw, I've seen videos of it since because my algorithm listens to me. And it's like packed with people. And I'm like, man, how nice was it that we had the whole, pretty much the whole thing to

ourselves? Yeah. Pretty cool. Pretty sick. Yeah. But all right. Well, that's, that's a shit talkers 30. That was one of our longer ones.

Was it? I think it was over an hour. Huh. So. Had a lot of shit to cover. I know. Yeah. A lot of shit to talk.

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