Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield - 101: Jeffree Star on Dramageddon, Diddy, and making MILLIONS on Tiktok

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

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We really needed this. I am so happy. It's like just seeing you makes me really feel a type of way. It transports me to a really different time of my life. Having you as a guest, this is so f***ing iconic. I really love this one. Oh, I love this one. Me too. No, so when right when she said that it triggers really good memories i think maybe people look at us and they may think craziness drama right away but when every time we were together it was

always positive energy so we filmed the funniest videos all we did was laugh the entire time so it definitely brings me back to really good times it brings me back to good times because i was a fan at that time so i feel like i was like it was so cool at the time like looking like you know you just think you know everything when you're young like that and it's like i definitely was that but looking back it's like i was like i had no money yet and i'm like this little make-a-wish child coming over to jeffree star's house and jeffree's dressing me head to toe in gucci and i'm playing with all the pinball machines and it's roaming around, rest in peace. You had one job.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. And all the Pomeranians and just like, you really- Oh my God. I was saying- I can't breathe. I'm sorry. Me just blazing over.

No, but what's crazy is in that time, I was newly rich. 2013, I had $500. 2015, $50 million. So it's just like crazy. And then I just kept going and going and going and going and going. And, you know, it was a really wild ride. So Tana met me when I was in love for the very first time in a brand new house,

just figuring out who the new me was. And it was so cool to be around people that didn't give a fuck, that knew just how to have fun and didn't take me that serious because I'm so sarcastic. And I think people misinterpret all the time. Fucking idiots. I love it. She said that before you came.

She's like, we're the only two who have never had any sort of beef or anything. She's like, that's just good. Yes. People may think that we've had drama maybe because we haven't seen each other in a while. People do get confused. No one knows the real truth about any of the past. I had to live it.

So sadly, I remember it all. But me and her never. You have great memories. You never forget. And I love that because I'm so the opposite. I'll call you and just be like, wait, what happened again? Like, who's drama? Photographic memory.

It's so great. But I genuinely feel like at the time, it was like a whirlwind like drama get and everything was happening around us and everyone had beef you know what i mean except for you and me we never did it it was a bonding point wendy williams rest in peace she's still alive but still rest in peace to her show shoot cam shoot cam clap if what did she say clap if they should die clap if they should suffer oh fuck i was close oh you know what my first like random thought was today that i just like genuinely want to know like when is the last time you spoke to shane dawson oh my god i was like i was expecting a way crazier question i was waiting for like i was like what is tana's very first question that's a really good one

well i'm like this is the foreplay. Yeah, of course. I mean, listen, right now, I can't believe that the conspiracy palette is about to turn five years old this week. I just used it the other day. That's so cool. Yeah, so I don't know when this is coming out, but it's in the fall and it literally came out

November 1st and then five years just blinked. Right. Yeah. Me and him, we were both canceled. Can't even remember why that time the pandemic happened. He moved to Colorado. I moved to Wyoming.

We both kind of left LA. He lives here again. I'm never coming back. He lives here again? Yeah. I did not know that. Yeah. He's raising them.

Yeah. When he had his kids. Yeah. So he became a father. I have continued to just be a makeup mogul, and I have no plans to have any kids, just more dogs and a couple more husbands. And athletes.

Yes. We're in LA. I can't wait for this to be over so I can go get fucked. Oh, my God. I'm like, cool. Stop. Just kidding. I mean, what are you fucking tonight?

I'm not kidding, meaning I don't want to leave here. I'll ask him how many Super Bowls he's won. Stop, and that's how many rounds you'll go. Yeah. If there's not a Super Bowl ring on the hand, I can't get hard. Yours. That's so inspirational. Somebody clip that please.

But we haven't seen each other probably in like 10, 11 months. Yeah, we started together at my birthday last year. And then he became a father. He has twins. Wait, how old are they? Have you met the twins? Not yet. That is so crazy. I know because i thought he was gonna stay in colorado and i was like a baby i'm about to be you know great aunt jeffrey lynn and then he moved to la to raise the kids

here and i haven't seen him in a couple months so i can imagine coming back to la to raise kids i feel like you leave la to raise kids yeah that's what i thought leaving la was the best thing you ever did and you were so ahead of the wave. Everyone was so almost confused. And now Wyoming is a trend. And it's like, yeah. They think it is. Oh.

So Wyoming, December is my four years of living there now. Just picture four years. Isn't that crazy? Stop it. It's so crazy. You and the Yaks. I have so many Yaks questions. How did the Yaks? LA, I was really burnt out.

20 years from, you know, I'm from Huntington Beach, California. I graduated high school at 17 and I moved here and I just figured it out. I worked at the Beverly Center and I was an escort. I was a hooker. And I've been a makeup artist for everybody. So it was crazy to finally leave and separate. But I think that all the drama with all the people and the crazy YouTube era was really like the final straw for me of like, all this is so toxic. I really want to go be at peace away from it all. I can work and come back

whenever I want, but I don't want to be around any of that. Yeah. Fuck the hair gum. All of it. It was all so crazy. And I think when the pandemic happened, remember that old lady Tati? Remember her? She uploaded a second video, which is now about to be five years old. After Bye Sister. Bye Sister is such a diabolical title, too. Imagine really typing that and hitting publish. It's a really wild journey, and I think a lot of people just know a lot of half-truths, and I think we lived it, so we really know the behind the scenes. There's so many

there's so many things that people don't need to know that happened before it's all to me I don't want to say it's irrelevant because so many people still talk about it

it's really wild it was a cultural like for pop culture I remember where I was it was like oh wow the YouTube era made on CNN

50 million views on every it was just it was the craziest thing and everyone who loved it felt like it was YouTube loved it they loved thing you and everyone who loved it felt like it was youtube loved it they loved pushing out toxicity they loved making money off of everyone's misery they did the old ceo at the time really pandered to a lot of that evil energy in the

darkness yeah rest in peace did she die she did yeah it's probably from her james charles karma but anyway yeah um so or subtract the two yeah and there's just a lot of things that people don't know that I had to really just suffer through behind the scenes so it's crazy to be here where I am now and what it's very weird I'm really mentally happy and I moved to Wyoming um I went to therapy I sought a lot of mental help. And I really worked on myself for years. So you're just going to say I sought a lot of help. So a lot of, a lot. The country boys. Oh my God.

So Wyoming is the least populated state. Really? Yeah, but it's the 10th biggest in America. And is that what drew you? Like, did you have any roots or history in Wyoming? What was the start? Where you were like. Property value?

Was it money? I think so. The rumor is that I moved there for taxes. Like, girl, I've lived in California for so. Yeah. And Kanye, remember that? The girl that licked the toilet seat on TikTok. value was it money like i think so the the rumor is that i moved there for taxes like girl i've lived in california for so yeah and kanye remember that the girl that licked the toilet seat on tiktok made up the biggest rumor ava louise she's so good at that so ava if you are watching this thank you for that moment that was really great that so many millions and millions of views dollars um followers that was really fun you played it and still people believe it i've met

strangers and they're like, oh yeah. Have you ever talked to Kanye about it? No. Never. That's surprising. Yeah. But we've just, it was such a bizarre rumor. And I'm like, I wish it was about someone hotter, you know, and someone that didn't have a wife and kids. Yeah, that's fair. But Wyoming is peaceful. It's beautiful. Remember I used to do music and I do music now. We just had a whole fucking reunion a couple of weeks ago. crazy so fun it was really fun but i used to do music and

i've traveled all over the country right i've been to every single state and i passed through wyoming a bunch we played there once it was just so peaceful and i had a plan when i was older with gray hair and like 60 years old i was gonna live on a big old farm and just be by myself and then the pandemic and all the drama made me realize i wanted to fast track that plan that's really what it's about it's not about money yeah i've paid so so many tax dollars in this state it's annoying that people would think that i would move to a different state to escape tax dollars yeah girl you have all the money in the world silly i don't even think that's that offensive though i'm like yeah yeah but i just hate when people always make it about financial i think maybe because i don't think you needed really help in that department, to be honest.

No, and it's just, I really did it for my mental health. So we're four years in. And it worked? Yeah, and I'm raising camels and Tibetan yaks, and it's just the craziest, cool experience. What's the day in the life in Wyoming? It's so different. So let's say, like, we're here, or we were in Vegas last week

with the crazy Warped Tour reunion. Real text from Jeffrey, Vegas had me. Yeah, it was so fun. She goes, you have to hear these voice memos. or we were in Vegas last week with the crazy Warped Tour reunion. Real text from Jeffrey. Vegas had me. Yeah. That was so fun. She goes, you have to hear these voice memos. That was the first one. Every time I get a voice memo from you,

there's nothing like it. I feel like I should have to pay like $1.99 for it. Thank you. Like it's not real. So when I'm living this crazy life and I'm on the road or I'm doing podcasts

or I'm at the crazy Warped Tour reunion or I'm whatever I'm doing, I feel like I'm doing the road or I'm doing podcasts or I'm at the crazy warp tour reunion or I'm whatever I'm doing I'm I feel like I'm doing a a job but I'm still me and then I go to Wyoming and I just take it all off and I'm in my cowboy boots just staring at a mountain a thousand acres to myself and it's just like so is it actually just you yeah that's crazy I have a ranch manager and I have a house manager that's's, you know, there's someone that watches my dogs 24-7 when I'm not in town. How many do you have now? Seven. Yeah.

Seven. Is it still all the D names? All Ds, yeah. What are they? Well, rest in peace. My oldest passed away last year. Oh, I'm sorry. 15 years old.

Diva Lynn. Diamond or Diva? Diva. Diva. Oh my God. That was so hard. So hard. I can't imagine.

So currently we have Drizzle. Donatella. Drama. Dessert. so um so currently we have drizzle donatella drama dessert dominatrix and da vinci those are the best names i've ever heard and i'm forgetting one and i i just can't forgetting what's so funny i get how that could happen if i woke up tomorrow oh no it's delicious i'm not forgetting one i was just had to go through the colors in my head delicious if i woke up tomorrow as jeffree stars delicious i'm not forgetting one i was just had to go through the colors in my head delicious if i woke up tomorrow as jeffree stars pomeranian i wouldn't ask a single question i would be like bring me my caviar let's get it pushing i just love animals so what's up with the camels i don't even know that i'm sorry i started with yaks yes and i think a lot of people were upset when i moved to wyoming and i was like hey these are my cute little pets and they are but they do grow to be very massive and I went from three yaks

to like 10 and now I have 500. 500? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three to 10 to 500? And the problem with my brain is I always... It's giving $5 to 50 million.

And I, for some reason, I always make everything into a business and I don't mean to. I just kind of make everything business oriented. It's my favorite thing about you.

So I was traveling in Colorado, the state right below it, right? And this lady served us yak meat then i was like okay i've heard it yak's great in china and pakistan yak meat is it's the healthiest red meat you can currently have in america right i didn't know anything about it what does it taste like it's like a sweeter beef it's so yummy it's not gamey at all that's our biggest question yes and we sell jerky snack sticks like like crack on the tiktok shop people are buying yeah people are buying yak on tiktok shop yeah they are oh shit the fact that like things imagine telling a victorian child like i sell yak meat on tiktok shop with mascara

so i created the concept a year ago of the jeffree star store makeup and meat and we opened up a my two favorite things if i like if I have to keep it a buck. Same. So if you want to try Jeffree's Meat you can come to Casper or our newly opened location in Chatsworth right here.

I need to come to Wyoming. You and I have been talking about that for like five years. I want to do a YouTube video where I just It's so fun. Live the fantasy.

I would love to. So I wanted to do you know as a makeup artist and someone that used to work in the malls as well you always see women come in the store and their husbands or boyfriends immediately want to die. They're so bored. They don't know anything and they don't care and they're not interested.

So they usually end up waiting around the store outside or just being on their phone. Cheating. That part. Oh, my phone just went off. So I decided to create. The word cheating in your phone goes off like that's somebody's husband settings is texting me so i created the concept to sell my entire brand the skincare the makeup and all the yak meat so we sell frozen meat we sell jerky we sell snack sticks we sell summer

sausage all of it so hickory farms is out of business there's taxidermy to look at there's things to play with so when the the wives are getting mascara the husbands can go try some jerky that's so and it's really cool and then i also have some of my car collection in there it's like a museum it's 7000 square feet we have to go so the dudes i at least need to see it yeah it's really cool it's in the heart of downtown we have the best spot um so the husbands get to look at the car collection taste the jerky and their wives can shop and they want to come back they all have a good experience that's so smart

so the yak turned into pets and they're still my pets and i breed them for genetics and just if one sassy we might make him a burger the mean ones go to the freezer don't you wish that was like the beauty community i know i know but we wouldn't we wouldn't even want that meat. You were at all. You were cracking me the other day when you were, and I'm so, I do, but I have to get messy. Jeffree Star is here. I don't give a fuck. When you were coming at Michaela saying she had a Timu spray tan,

I damn near passed out. I needed air. Like, and so, because I'm Timu's, like, spray tan, so coated. But, like, you're just so funny. You were, But you look like A normal human skin tone Thank you I mean literally

Her spray tan No don't Please don't show him that It looks like you Stepped in oil though Like a Maybe you have like A good Jeffree Star

Remover We do Our makeup removing bomb I think my problem is Is what started it Is that Mascara gate right Yeah that was a year ago.

And I can understand because obviously we were commenting on that. Should we get down and dirty about this? Because this only happened a couple of days ago. Yeah, I am down to talk about it. I haven't really. I can understand how that would piss you off though in such a visceral way as someone who has been, you are known for being genuinely honest about quality of product and not scamming your followers. And no one else is.

And like, I know all of that. I see these people. My main issue was, is a year ago well first of all we all know that i stepped down like 10 years of doing beauty content i basically quit youtube right i barely upload please come back it was somewhere where i really found home and i really think drama get in whatever everyone wants to call it really was the final straw for me of like, I really want to remove myself. Something makes you hate something you love that part. Yes. So when I went to tick tock,

I wasn't fully immersed in it. Cause remember during the pandemic, I was like, Nope, we're still a full YouTube. Everyone. You don't want to let go of that too. It's such a like,

but I also, I felt as I was getting older, I didn't want to make content that I didn't enjoy. And people were just dancing all day. The dances. Uh huh. Renegade. And I have never done a dance back then.

I never did a dance. I never did this little skit. I never did choreography with anyone. And I just felt like, wow, this is where social media is at. I've been online for 20 plus years, like 10th grade till right in the second. Yeah. And I was not inspired. I was so bored of the dancing so as the app started to evolve into more beauty and more content and fun lip-syncing stuff and quick

beauty transitions i was like oh who's on this space and i had heard of her obviously i know who she was we had spoken before and i think it's the integrity of the app that people don't care about the integrity anymore i think that's really to the core of it of what's shocking to me the audience knows she's a liar doesn't care and they like watching the train wreck and i'm sure she does have hardcore fans that do believe her and buy the stuff that she's saying is great yeah it would have never slid back in the day like remember when jacqueline hill had hair in her lipstick and people were like they wanted they wanted her to die yes they they literally wanted to to cancel her forever so it's crazy and now it's like everyone can do anything yes so when the mascara thing happened it inspired me to get back

to full-time reviewing and i've never let up since that that video and i would know and i've just been inspired ever since and i love tiktok i like that i can film it myself remember christian my video guy we love him so we're about to see him this week, finally. But I don't have a videographer anymore. I don't film YouTube videos that need to be edited for hours. You know, I film a review and I move on. And it's fun. No one will ever review a product like you. Yeah, because I feel like you're unbiased, probably.

Very. Because I feel like you're not money motivated because you've got it. I feel like the beauty community, especially, you make so much more money in makeup videos than any other. And Mikaela, obviously, I don't know her exact dollar amount, but I know the brand deals I was getting. especially like you make so much more money in makeup videos than any other and Michaela obviously I don't know her exact dollar amount but I know the brand deals I was getting and I know what it's worth now and it's astronomical and if the typical viewer knew how much money she was making off of telling the truth or lying they would really throw up in their mouth yeah so I

was very offended by the lack of integrity and the not acknowledging it I really think that her and L'Oreal had a deal or whether she lied or, we all know she lied, she put on a false lash. Ardell Whiskey. What was the approval process? But she never acknowledged it and I think L'Oreal got a really great viral moment and they were thankful for it, whether it was staged or not, we'll never know.

I've asked her in a DM to respond to me of how it happened. She refused to respond to that. Looking back a year later the mascara is great she didn't need to lie and she didn't need to put on the falsie and whether it was a marketing scheme or she actually got caught in a lie we'll never know because she won't acknowledge it so the other day so i do live stream on tiktok now let's talk about that because i be scrolling a lot and i see a lot of people hating on um other creators me so

i just have i got to put this out on the record let's hear it bitch come on apologize here's well here's what i'm gonna say okay i it is and i stand on this seeing jason ash panhandle was maybe one of the highlights of my year hilarious the trajectory of the you know cheers to the fall of the Dobrik alumni, right? It is wild as a viewer to see someone that was so far up David's ass just sit on TikTok in their kitchen. Yes. And, you know, obviously like...

Hi. Yeah. And it's just, it's all insane. And I stand on that and I see, I just see so many people who have like flops now resorting to that. But then I open my fucking For You page and there's Miss Jeffrey Lynn in a battle with four people in middle America. So clearly there's something we're missing and I need to know what it is.

And I'm like, wait. Because now I'm like, did I fuck up? Did I go too far against this? Because if you're doing it, if you're doing it, some people are going to start stitching you together. Am I missing out on a business opportunity? Like suddenly I want a galaxy. So you, that's only ten dollars but have you seen me i've been tipping you it's my new bit it's so i've been going in jeffrey so let's deep dive into it real fast yes why do you think before answering any questions about me why do you think people are so triggered by jason and and make a

joke of it i i feel neither way i think it it's funny. There's no, it doesn't matter. There's 60 year olds that cook on live stream and they're making a lot of money. And that feels wholesome to me. That's no longer funny. But here's,

I'm going to answer her question even though I asked her the question, I'm going to answer it. So fucked up. Only child and Scorpio. I love it. I love it. And 80% sociopathic.

And save me from answering. I love 80%. 80%, yeah. I'm like 20 30 40 so the problem is he doesn't do anything yeah that's what i was gonna say if you're cooking yes one thing you're begging children to swipe their parents cards and they are children and all of the things that he's done wrong over the years it's like you do legally have to be 18 or up to gift oh right you do whether yes can be 18 or up to gift. Really? You do.

Whether, yes, you do. Can they tell though? No. Well, I've been 18 since like 11 on like MySpace. I can't breathe. But I think the problem is I am an internet dinosaur. So my logic, because people are, you know, majority people get it because I am an e-commerce store.

So my TikTok page, minus all the fun lip syncs and makeup reviews, I am a e-commerce store so my tiktok page minus all the fun lip syncs and makeup reviews i am a e-commerce store right so when i go live a lot of the times i am selling products for hours qvc is what our parents used to watch when we were little kids they turn it on there's some old ladies showing off a diamond bracelet right 79.99 absolutely and or the face cream and the mary kay and all that so now it's's TikTok. And if anyone's making fun of me, they're a fucking fool because this is the future of beauty. 100%. So we'll get into the battling and what else the app has to offer, yes. But I, at the core of what I do, people don't know because there's new people that are going to watch that maybe don't know who I am.

Everyone knows who you are. TikTok is, I was trying to be modest. Fuck. No humility here. But like it's really, people are there. There's, I mean, 3 million people go live a day. And there's millions and millions of people. Yeah, whether they have one viewer or 10,000, that app is booming.

And they make so much money off these creators. But we are a store. So when I'm live selling, whether I'm with a co-host or I'm by myself, I mean, people are ordering. I give really crazy discounts that you're never going to see on my site. I was in there last night. I was like, he's handing out free pallets.

Yes. Buy a pallet, get a pallet free. And we, it's only for that five hour moment. One time a week, you got to fucking be there or you're not going to get it. And there's a lot of people that don't even watch my tech talks.

Don't know. We do deals. So it's a niche market, but it's massive. The money is there. It's huge. We sell products. We are the number one or two beauty store.

This week, number one. Again, he on the number one app in the world. I'm so proud of it. At the end of the day, you make the best makeup. So then let's switch to, I'm also an internet character. I've been around for a long time. I want to learn everything. Just like the YouTube and the beauty world.

I fucking immerse myself and I took that bitch over. So I'm like, okay, what are the daily ranks? What are people doing? People will do a six hour face paint

on TikTok. They'll battle for 12 hours. I have a friend. What is a battle? Should have asked that before. Yeah, I don't know if I completely understand. yes.

So I live for you. So uninformed. So when people, I don't get called a panhandler because I'm a, I don't know if I completely understand. Yes. I live for you. So uninformed. I don't get called a panhandler because I'm a real business, and I show people how to make money on the app, and it's really great. You can really make a really good income. My friend's mom cooks all day, and she makes money just cooking. Instead of working as an insurance agent, she now makes way more money, five times the amount per month.

People are watching her cook and gifting and engaging with her and her chat really loves her and people really engage and they come view you every day i probably go live four or five times a week people look forward to it it's entertaining what do i do on live i'll make bacon in the morning and make fifty thousand dollars so fucking routinely there's money there yes fifty thousand dollars like as fifty thousand dollars alive well so so that's what i'm gonna say whether people want to say i'm a well i don't get called a panhandler i think that the you're not giving pan i think if we were to do it we might be panhandling because we don't have a business that like we're not driving people to buy from

our business the way that he is you know what i mean so it's like if we were to do it we're not making fifty thousand dollars well but are you making that in sales or in gifting both oh it depends so there's some times where i don't know no no there's some times where i don't sell at all and i'll just make bacon in my kitchen in my bathrobe in my little slippers mink louie and i was waiting for it i was i knew it was going we'll just hang out and i'll just chat and i'll do a q a and i'll just talk about my vegas trip and what i did and and people will gift and support but i'm also known as one of the biggest gifters on the app so if you deep dive and open up the live everyone has a gifter badge number by their name

so i'm not in we all know i give back and I've been giving back since the day I was blessed to ever have a dollar right so I support small creators all going and I'll drop $5,000 on someone that's sleeping in their car on live and like I love to give back right always so the battling world is really interesting so what I'm getting is I can cook bacon I can do it so I also do my makeup reviews live so all the all the tick tocks you see I film those bacon. I can do a, so I also do my makeup reviews live. So all the, all the tick tocks you see, I film those live brands. I just know they're shaking.

Oh, they do. I tag them every time. Yes. They sit there. Yes. No, they do.

Yeah. Yeah. They sit there. I was reviewing, um, rare beauty last month. Selena Gomez came in the chat and she sent me her first ever gifts. I was like,

it was sickening. Yeah. It was sick, bitch. Yes. She's slamming the credit card like, please love my blush. So what I do now is YouTube days, right?

I would go film for a couple hours. Christian would have to drive home, edit it, show me a preview, upload the YouTube video, do the thumbnail, do the description. Girl, we're in a different

fucking time now. No one's attention spans are like that, right? So I just filmed a video and I'll do it live so i'm live streaming on the ipad filming it on my phone and i'll just be like trying new rare beauty powder girl they're all glued to the screen like oh my god is he gonna hate his yeah and it's really engaging and people gift while i'm sitting there and i'm i've made myself a part of the daily ranks

now me and soldier boy are the only celebrities on there. And he makes a killing. What's Soulja Boy doing? Killing it. Making money. Oh, good. Like Miss Lin, yeah. Oh, I'm going to be live on TikTok tomorrow.

It's so fun. But you have the personality. A lot of people make no money and they sit there all day. And they just kind of don't do anything. And they have like 10 viewers. I think that's me. I'm going to try harder. I can't.

I'm going to try harder. I clicked up. But you have to be in the mood like you're entertaining and it's you know one of my friends she makes you know six figures a month and that's her entire job is battling and being a makeup artist so the so TikTok created battles where you could join the screen with uh 1v1 or 2v2 like me and you versus two other people I'm sure you've seen the clips of Jason with a four-way or one versus one. And essentially, and this is where a lot of people, it's not controversial to me at all, but to normal folks. You know controversial.

It is controversial that two people are sitting on a screen and strangers are throwing money at them, and whoever makes the most money that battle, you obviously both get the money, but whoever gets the most points, which essentially is dollars, you win that match. TikTok has made a human video game they are geniuses yeah america is so threatened they want to try to remove this app because it's whatever they're saying it is it's like no do you think i would die i don't know that's the scary part i really don't know

we're in a very scary time right oh my god the lights would go off i would kill the world's fuck i would just be stupid i feel like everything that i know today is because of tiktok like i'm learning so much and and i think the government may not want us to learn all those things because you can type it in here's a trick i want to get really fucking wacky people don't like this at all all you got to do is search have we ever been to the moon why is that such a hot topic yeah of course we fucking haven't i know i agree i don't think we've ever been to the moon can i say that of course you can anyone with common sense could tell i don't think we've ever been to the moon who the fuck was just fighting me on anything so here we go so that

we have to stray away from that because we'll go down that rabbit hole way too long but the problem is is to america it's not a problem it's education and you can now go in and see old clips that old people are finding and they're uploading to the app and old footage of things from the seven and you can really learn and see oh wow like this is all her shit and people don't want that and they don't even this menendez brother shit i think think if it wasn't for TikTok, would they even have a retrial? Same with Free Britney. TikTok and Twitter got that bitch. Gypsy Rose blanched because of the internet.

It is crazy. Gypsy Rose went live with me. Tell now. Did she battle you? No, we just had a good conversation. People kept being like, she wants to collab. And I'm like, Jeffree Star Cosmetics is not collabing with a murder um we're not we're not doing it this year i need to i need like a list of iconic things you say on today's episode and that's one i want her on canceled regardless so

bad but i need i like so here's my issue i'm very sarcastic and i battle and i'm live all the time i say really crazy funny jokes i should have been a comedian right so we go so we go live together we have we have a good time i'm not gonna collab with her she's like i don't know if she's hinting at it but like and she's also learning tiktok and imagine you're in prison for so long and the phone is so new oh my god it's like it must be such a trip imagine what that even feels like yes so my issue is is that she thought i was all great and then a couple weeks later someone sends her a clip of a joke I made unfollow

she can't handle the humor oh oh boring yeah I was talking to her on FaceTime and I was like slay mother and I was like wait

but also like the YouTube drama era the lie is always more entertaining than the truth that's all of the media you want to really switch and be bipolar

why did her second video hit so hard I loved this I loved this transition we went straight from I want to ask you why did her second video hit so hard i loved this i loved this transition we went straight from i want to ask you why did her second woman to man when she yes bitch i want to know i've never asked anyone this question because you're making you're making me reflect on a lot what was the title of the second video before i speak on oh god in the second video she's blaming blaming you and Shane for influencing her to make this

So here's the thing. Just for the record, I don't feel like I need to prove myself to anyone ever, but I don't think or talk about these things often. So when I do, a lot of memories flood in. I've put a lot of this behind me. I don't think about it. It was a very dark time. And my question is all, and i've never got to ask anyone

this even as a fan or a viewer because we're both viewers of what all happened even though we were i was a part of it why do you think her second video hit did they just want me and shane to be the villain for the hundredth time i think people even just the the viewers watching the fans of dramageddon happening were enamored by the idea of all of YouTube's hierarchy. Even, I don't want to compare it to anything that's happening right now in the media with the Diddy stuff, but people are glued to the idea of the takedown

of a hierarchy of anything. Like all the Kardashians, everyone that's going to be taken down with Diddy. People love to see that. I was never there, by the way. I like straight rappers. I was never there. I was never there, by the way. I like straight rappers. I was never there. I was never there.

Ugh. Yeah. That's honestly a good spot to clarify. I was going to ask you that. I think what was bizarre is me and Shane, and I've never even said this on camera before, we were busy filming the conspiracy documentary. We were filming for 10, 11 months

how to create a product, our lives, all the newness of my life, my love life, my dogs, my exponential growth of my channel. The fact that anyone believed that we were bored to try to ruin someone's life on the side when we're living our dreams, our financial dreams.

I mean, the viewers were so crazy. It was the biggest, most exciting thing me and him have ever done career-wise and the most successful. I couldn't believe I woke up and people believed I'm the villain for the hundredth time. I couldn't believe it. But do you think there was like a convenience in like you guys being so powerful at that time and like putting it on you guys? That's what I wanted to ask you.

Sorry, let me be quiet. So what do you think? She was always threatened as well. Like even just with the sugar bear hair Like all of that Like James my gummy this It felt like she was insecure in her spot I was gonna say I thought that to be strange Like I think about it now

And like if I had like a hat brand And then Tana stepped out In like a different hat brand Because they're sending her to Coachella I'd be like it's a lie Yeah who gives a fuck I didn't understand like Why it was such a serious thing

I guess like people are different But for it to be that serious That you hold a grudge That makes you make a serious thing. I guess people are different. No, but for it to be that serious that you hold a grudge that makes you make a bi sister video, I was like, rooted in him. But then she got me with the ethos. There was a lot more to it. Do you also just think she was dumb

and just straight up did not know how damaging it was maybe the first video and then was manic? Listen, I think she's one of the worst people I've ever met, so I'm not trying to say anything for her. I don't know if I've ever met her. But it was more than the gummies. I think when you one of the worst people I've ever met, so I'm not trying to say anything for her. I don't know if I've ever met her. But it was more than the gummies.

I think when you're telling a stranger, if you were to tell a stranger the story, the gummies seem to be like people's catalyst of like, this was the root. When in reality, it was very anecdotal. It was way more than that. And we were all spending a lot of time together. We learned a lot of things about...

Yeah, every person. A lot of things about every person. Yeah. And me and Tati traveled with James and we really saw. And you did it at my birthday dinner. Yes.

Were you at the birthday dinner? Yeah, I sat right next to him. I was here. James was there. What happened from Jeffrey Lynn's eyes? It's a crazy meme of this because of her.

No one ever heard my version. They just hear it. They saw Tati's video. The birthday dinner. What actually happened at the actually happened at the it was the height of it was her birthday so it was like her friends and family and a lot of normal people not youtubers not people with a lot of money and to me it was that height of james's new fame new money going batshit crazy and not knowing how to handle it all and it turned him and it turned him into a monster or he already was that and the money amplified it and he really thought i have money

you're gonna sleep with me it was very disgusting it doesn't matter who you were you want him you hear that creak? That's loud. And, and that had been weeks of buildup of the ego getting so dark and crazy and just so many weird things and stories coming out to us and really bizarre things. And the dinner was him at his most disgusting. And there was a 19 year old waiter who he tricked into his room later that night.

And the guy said he wanted to leave. And James was like, I paid for this. You have to hook up with me. I bought the room. But everyone just makes it about sucking and the memes and her stupid ass video. But it was really as someone that was there. And I'm all about shock value. I'm fucking crazy.

It was just disgusting to witness. Because it's one thing to say something shocking for the bit. And there's like Tati's family there. And we all know we're shocking and we can say whatever we want but when you're at that environment you don't say crazy it was all just too much and it just bubbled up crazy and we all flew home just horrified by this person disgusted and i think she really felt like in her heart that exposing him as a alleged predator and all these things was going to teach him a lesson and remove him from the platform.

It really wasn't about gummies. I think that was the start of it. Because to me, the gummies was loyalty. I'm going to speak for her stupid ass, Tati, you dumb cunt. Let me say one thing for you before you die, you fucking old witch. I just wish more people would come on Cancel to on canceled. She is one of the darkest people. One of the darkest people I've ever met. I don't think I've ever met her.

She got me with the, like the guise of being like, you know, this like. A sweet older woman. Middle-aged. Yeah. Yeah. I'm only being funny because people will say I'm age shaming. We're really close in age. No, but it was. We're people will say I'm age shaming. We're really close in age. No, but it was like.

I'm not age shaming. Her aesthetic though. No, her aesthetic was the mother of YouTube. And why would she be a part of any drama and da, da, da. Because she found out a lot of stuff about him. She knew he was evil and she wanted to remove him. But the gummies was about loyalty. So I think back then it was bizarre because we all kind of had each other's backs.

We were all promoting each other. We all. But it was organic. It wasn't like. It was bizarre because we all kind of had each other's backs we were all promoting each other we all but it was organic it wasn't like it was just like we all know that she's gonna come out with the beauty line i'm gonna be the first one to let y'all know it's fucking amazing if it is and i just think that it was bizarre for him to take a quick check when he was raking in so much money to promote something when he's did her makeup at the wedding. So it was bizarre to switch up and not promote her products. I did think it was interesting. Okay. Cause they were, cause they were,

they were deep rooted. Like it's like, you know what I mean? Like they're in Hawaii and he's doing her makeup at the wedding. Like she deeply immersed herself with this kid and then found out later on. Wow. I think he's evil. So yeah,

I guess, I guess I get like why she'd be hurt. I don't know. I experienced it like firsthand as a, like completely removed bystander. I was, I, every single video was like,

okay, wait, maybe I believe this person. Like now I believe. And that's what it ended up becoming is this just cluster. one knew spider web of and we're over here like we just launched the biggest makeup collection in makeup history the most palettes sold in one hour in one day me and shane dawson what two dudes like that's so crazy and beautiful on the documentary and the second one right both of them were such massive hits and i couldn't believe we're in the middle of a pandemic and it's all these crazy things happening with our culture and the second one right both of them were such massive hits and i couldn't believe

we're in the middle of a pandemic and it's all these crazy things happening with our culture and the planet and earth and the presidency and everyone's angry they wanted me and shane to be the villain do you think it hurt it hurt your like launch or do you think it helped it the launch already happened it had already happened yeah so this is so november 19 do you believe in the drama close to the sun like do you believe that when people fly too close to the sun like you know what i mean like what we got too successful yes do you just believe in that like karmatically like you know what i mean with me and shane specifically from the dawn of tumblr to my space to this very moment this has been our careers for some reason right right? And I feel that on a smaller scale. Both different ways, yes.

So I feel that. Same. And it's the rollercoaster of she's the villain, they're awful, they're this, nevermind, they're great, we were wrong. And it's just been over and over. And it is so crazy mentally. Like, I see why you would go to Wyoming

for your mental health, because even I struggle with that so heavily. I couldn't wake up here anymore. Trying to find a way to be calm while on that rollercoaster. I always use that analogy. Like to find a way to be calm while on that rollercoaster. I always use that analogy. Like I've learned how to like fall asleep

on a rollercoaster. Like emotionally. We were used to it. We woke up every day not knowing what was going to happen. That fear of like what's going to happen today.

It was awful. So I just couldn't believe that we woke up and people believed it. It was crazy to me. And then it all just got so big and it's on the news

and it's on CNN and it's just everywhere. Do you ever hate on the news and it's on cnn and it's just everywhere and i'm like i guess shane's cancellation he ended up having another one later right and like the cat stuff our situations were so different do you hate that he left the internet though do you hate like like some people would argue that it defeated him do you wish it do you know what i mean do you wish and i i partially. I took a few weeks off and was like, what did I do? Yeah. I'm not a bad person.

I didn't try to take down James Charles. I haven't talked to Tati in months. He weaseled his way back in and got her to make a video about us to try to get back at us. Oh, you think he was behind video too? Yeah. That's what she's told people. Yeah. That he manipulated her.

It's also, these people are so twisted. But your memory's so great. And I wasn't a part of any of it. That's the problem. But you got dragged out. You were strapped. So now we're five years later. You're telling me that me and Shane called her on the phone

and coerced her into making, this has to be a joke. That's what I'm like. How could anyone believe that was real? Would you ever? I'm over here like living my fucking rockstar dreams where I'm opening up Morphe stores around the fucking world. There's 30,000 people coming to these malls

while I'm doing the ribbon cut. I don't give a fuck about anyone but my empire. Everything's growing. We have fucking, I mean, it was all so beautiful and I couldn't believe they wanted to ruin it all because we got so successful. The two underdogs became the biggest.

We went to Walmart, 50 million views. It was untouchable. And they were so mad that the two fucking f***ers won. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. Yeah. So to answer your question, I am upset that Shane disappeared for over a year.

I don't know. He couldn't handle it'm not i don't want to speak for him obviously i would love to get him on this he's a really great speaker have you have you invited him here i've like hinted at it i i think i'm gonna cold open ask him again maybe i'll be like hey jeffrey i feel like you're gonna be helpful like we'll just face time when this is over and but it would have yeah it's if he but i don't think he wants to talk about any of this yeah that's true and i think maybe yeah it's just there will never the good stuff and the bad stuff i think that the way that the internet is now tiktok the short form content there will never be a time like that again where singular youtube videos are like i think why do you think

people are so obsessed with all of our old clips even the ones with the alleged yeah with james but that jack in the box video it's so funny because i want to go back and re-watch that video they were really good great times uh-huh i love that video i don't remember that night i remember you putting the gucci shirt on me it's all so fucked like do you like what was our vibe because i was reading comments the other day of people saying the tension's kind of palpable right like between all of us and i like i just don't remember that night but i always see clips we saw each other as mutuals and he wanted to be the star of the show and he was younger and this is all so new to him and we were just there to fucking laugh and be

wild and silly and that's why we always had the best chemistry on camera do you think that well i was gonna ask a stupid question i was gonna say do you think his age has anything to do with it like coming into success so quickly but you did the same thing you were really young when you but everyone handles it differently and i think the ego is his worst enemy and i don't want to sit here and harp about this fucking suck my own but i do think my leading emotion genuinely from my career from the day it started to now has always been gratitude and i was gonna say that if you didn't you like didn't feel any sense of like entitlement when everything was given to you because you had had nothing and i was always very humbled and it saved me but a lot of you didn't feel like you

deserved everything that you got yeah it saved my life i was like how the fuck did this anomaly happen to me and get me out of this like that he grew up with loving parents and money and yeah you know what i mean it's it's very different when yeah i feel I feel like somebody like that kind of just feels deserving when they find the success that they wanted. 50% or more times when somebody becomes super successful. I know. The city's evil. Yeah.

How do you feel now walking around LA? Uninspired. Yeah. I agree. I used to just hit Sunset Boulevard and just be like wow and it was all like I it was just so many hopes and dreams here and the city used to be so beautiful and fun genuinely fun and cool to be a part of that's a big question it's a great question yeah it's a really great question thank you for some reason it was like the 2020 like 2020 12 2012 yeah that i don't know remember when like everyone just stopped being funny that's when the cancel culture really started to

creep in and no one was allowed to say jokes and phones just like i and the phones blew up and everyone had way more out in la with with Paris Hilton and a flip phone? Good God. The best. Yeah. Me and Paris Hilton and Kelly Osbourne at the Spider Club. And we have our fucking T-Mobile sidekicks. I miss my little.

And it was just such a different time. It was so fucking cool. I genuinely think that I should have been in that time. It was epic. And I was really young. So that's when I was. I was her age back then. I was 19 years old doing Kelly Osbourne's makeup and going to all the clubs with the fake id and the pink mohawk and

just fucking like it was all so new and crazy but how lucky you were to experience it because it's so many people now like that's what you come to la for and it's just not here it's not i remember the last time you and i went out you went to bootsy bellows this is probably like three or four years ago and you and i were having a night like it was 2012. And I remember you and I just looking at each other and looking around. And you were like, fuck this shit. Like this shit used to be. It used to be so fun.

And I just, I don't know. It's just weird. So it's weird that TikTok is here. And all those old people that we've been talking about, we've had each other blocked forever. So are they running TikTok? I heard Tati's trying to do live stream it's flopping i don't i've never seen it yeah and james has a makeup line now a hundred years later oh i guess i guess only because i'm the queen of reviewing and so many people have you reviewed painted i can't review it would be so viral i really yes it would but at the end of the day it's a patrick ta ripoff there's nothing new or inspiring about it um the packaging of his blushes are identical to patrick

ta and tom ford oh um it's boring it's really uninspiring from what i've seen who does inspire you whose makeup lines tell me what you what's jeffree star approved what's getting you going my favorite thing is i love that whether it's celebrity or fashion, makeup artists have makeup lines. Pat McGrath, number one. Fucking amazing, right? I used to be a little kid opening up magazines to shoot and all her makeups were there.

Interview magazine, the full fucking rainbow eye. And I'm like, oh my God. So people like her, Patrick Ta, Makeup by Mario. I love that artists get to have their own brands now versus all these dumb celebrities everyone around the corner listen it's worked for Gaga

she's genuine right Selena Gomez huge hit some of these people JLo skincare line JLo is a skincare line I don't think anyone's bought it but her assistant no one knows about it Selena Williams

Serena Williams? Serena I gotta go so me correcting you is also just as if I was scared to say it just cause we said Selena Gomez

no no no no no Serena Williams launched a line in Ulta a makeup line none of y'all have tried it or heard of it, have you? It's like tennis ball packaging. It's all hot green. Is it?

Like tennis ball. Okay, brats. At least she's committed to her. But did you know it existed? No. Exactly. And I feel like I couldn't miss hot green. But you're a consumer.

Even though we get our makeup done, I'm still a consumer and I do my own makeup all the time still and I love buying products. I'm not on all the PR lists like the other girls. I'm on half. I'm on half. I get you. Do you think you just get marked off every time you say something bad about a product? No, no, no. There's brands

that they love the critiques and they can handle it and there's a core, there's core people like Elf and Patrick Ta and people that they're not afraid of the pretend controversy of, ooh, whatever. They just, they want to know my opinions. Yeah. I think you're a pussy if you haven't made a brand and you don't want Jeffree Star to honestly review it.

Hello? Do you find it hard ever to like be innovative after everybody's done everything it feels like um I think my approach to things are always so different

that it's always fun so for the very so we're about to turn 10 years old on Black Friday happy birthday damn isn't that crazy

10 years of JSC yeah it's wild I know are you gonna do something special for your 10 years? Yeah.

You come into the party. Absolutely. Stop. It's in LA. So you guys have to come. Oh, and I'll come fuck these bitches up. You know,

I love it. I love it. I think my approach makes things really fun. I've never put out eyebrow products, right? So I grew my eyebrows back.

It's been two years now. We have eyebrow. Thank you. This is my natural eyebrows. They look great. The whole time she knew me, I've had him shave since 10th grade. So we have eyebrow products next year.

So it's like, well, how can you make an eyebrow pencil new? New shape, different packaging, different formulas. So like, I love it. I feel like I started the brand yesterday and we're 10 years in and I'm just like a little kid. I'm just like Willy Wonka. That's so funny. I love it. I get really giddy.

I love formulating. I love flying to the labs that's the thing is the thing that helps is just being like actually so hands-on with your your personality is so prevalent in your brain even just because i told you i opened my conspiracy palette the other day and i was dying it's such a good palette you gave me a shade crying on the couch it's the same color as the couch i cried yeah to shane dawson on so i was crying about tana con to shane dawson on this tan couch and they made an eyeshadow that was the same color as the couch was Hunter's couch.

And I opened up the other day and I was like, and it's a great fucking crease color. Talk about blending with crying on your couch. Talk about wearability, honey. And then popping Trisha on the list, sweetie. Not kidding. Trisha. So you and Trisha. Yeah.

And you know, I fucking love Trisha. I love Trisha. The people I have made it out of that time with you, Trisha, it's, it's love Trisha I love Trisha the people I have made it out of that time with you Trisha it's a beautiful bond that you cannot recreate right

and you guys have had a rollercoaster of a friendship haven't seen her in almost five years and you're about to yeah we're about to have a reunion

I'm gonna put this out later because I'm not trying to compete with that moment or maybe before who knows yeah this could be like a get ready

to build that but yeah we haven't seen each other in a long time I think a lot of her new fans think i'm the devil love that um but the og fans that watch both of us knew that at the heart of it all there was really no drama it was just a lot of speculation and other people chiming in and there's a lot of ugliness um but we had the best times together i re-watched some of our old clips oh my god they're like ours

they're so iconic i can see you guys with the damn pink bentley right now i can meet and ask through the drive-thru at taco bell her sticking her head out the window screaming like so good i'm excited as fuck to just see you guys here's something really crazy i haven't had taco bell in four years what yeah i don't eat fast food anymore i'm about to check your pulse i quit that's all you and me would do that makes me horrible i know but it's so good yes now you're making yak tacos i know i don't want to be like a preacher of all that but like i think when you damn i guess maybe you understand but when you step away my brain chemistry and how i think feels better from quitting fast food like that's the most gag thing you said to me on this couch

yeah like what do you eating meat from an animal that's raised outside eating grass only versus being pumped full of things i mean like mcdonald's hamburgers aren't even it's not even real meat it's like mealworms and we all know that and do it anyway yes because we're conditioned since birth our our parents have been feeding us fruit loops with redops with red dye in it. The same dyes. I know those chicken nuggets are hot pink paste. And I have no shame about it. But we've made it funny where we don't care, right? So the same pigments that are in the blood sugar pilot are in Fruit Loops. And you want a bowl right now, you fucked me.

The thing is, if you cut me open right now, I'd probably bleed red 40. Like it is. I just said that there's Twinkies in my purse right now. Do you want to share one? I'll eat one. I love being filled. Right. You are a Twinkie, babe.

I am. Even though I'm old, I'm not a Twink. I'm a Twinkie. I love that. I've always said that. But, like, wait. So what made you stop? Are you like me?

I'm very, like, even with alcohol, with anything, I'm dinner. I'm cold turkey. Well, I just kind of stepped away, and I started eating really healthy out there. And my neighbors have chickens and we're eating eggs from the chickens. I'm making you relapse on the print shop. Not from Albertsons. I guess I have no gauge. Let's go in and out right now.

I've never gone without it. So I almost don't know how I would feel if I like never consumed anything like that. But it's like, you know how people say like, oh, you feel better if you work out. And everyone's like, yeah, right. And then you work out and you feel amazing. Yeah, yeah, work out you feel amazing yeah yeah i know i would feel better too so i'm not saying i won't go have in and out right now but i just that doesn't count taco bell it's just mcdonald's it's not it stop and now mcdonald's that has the e coli scandal i know but it's only like in other states oh like wyoming oh. Oh. What'd you say? Like Wyoming. Oh, no way.

Oh, two people in Casper, Wyoming where I live got E. coli from the McDonald's 20 miles from my ranch. The Big Mac E. coli collab is crazy. That is crazy. Collab is crazy.

Crossover. Yeah. That's crazy. I never thought I'd see the day that you were not eating fast food. Like that's just, I associate so many of our best memories.

I want to do a Yak Mukbang though. YouTube culture is me and you eating fast food, that's just i associate so many of our best memories i want to do a yak youtube culture is me and you eating fast food me and tricia at fucking every fast food place and it's just the yak meat's so good let's do a barbecue we should so if you come to wyoming there's six restaurants that serve the jeffree star yak meat you're really that cool and i never eat like that's the thing i'll eat isn chicken paste That's so cool And then it's like I'm like scared to try yak It's like babe I know

I have a hard time Because any animal That I haven't tried yet I'm like oh I feel guilty But then it's like I love the little pig videos Do you blur this out? And I'm still cooking up bacon

Do you blur this later? I should But I'm always vaping Okay great It's so funny The other day She was apologizing To Brittany Furlan

Like dead ass serious And I'm vaping And the smoke's just crossing over. Yeah. I look like I have a fucking smoke machine on me. I don't know. I shouldn't make those jokes. Why not? That's what I'm saying.

I thought I was being funny. Right. It can't be funny these days. No, you can. It's a good debt for you to have Jeffrey star here. I think just to show you that you can say what you can be funny. And sometimes people have orange skin. Team you orange hands.

That's a really, I just said it on a live. I didn't even do a video. I didn't do anything. I was just live streaming like I always do. I was freestyling, and people were asking me questions, and I was just like, you guys, these people have me blocked. I don't know what they're doing. And then I saw my friend Patrick Ta launched an eyeshadow duo.

People wanted to try to drag him for the price. So silly. I did see that. So Michaela, who did an elf collab, this is what started this this week, tried to compare a $4 moment

to a $42, basically saying it's comparable when it's not. I simply reviewed it and was like, this is what it is. It's great. My review really blew up.

It's just her lying again and being annoying. Yeah. So I just said a couple funny things. Yeah. Because I just said a couple of funny things. Because how can you even, obviously Elf makes amazing dupes, but like you can't compare 42. Because that wire hit.

That's why. Yeah. Right. From Elf, you think. I feel like if it's $42, there's a reason it's 42. Also, it's like love. And the cool thing is, is I make makeup for a living. I know his lab.

I make my highlighters there so it's cool from a manufacturer brand owner um creator to be able to let the audience know about ingredients and different pearls and how things are made so they understood it it was just funny and i guess i was live and people clipped it and posted it on tiktok and i guess it's a big thing this week but i always stand by what i say i think she's a fucking liar. She has a lot of advisors. And they have instructed her to... Never address. Never address it.

It will go away. I hate a never address. I always have and I always will in every capacity. I just, when I see these influencers, I don't know. But you know what? Sometimes they get along better than the people who do address it. That's the frustrating thing is it feeds people to continue to do that because you see it happen so much.

So yeah, I don't hate her. I don't know her. We've spoken before. I saw her on FaceTime. We've talked in the DMs. Did she have the orange hands on FaceTime? No, she didn't have money then. And the thing is when you're making millions of dollars a month i don't understand why you don't

look more presentable but i think it's the shtick of i'm gonna pretend to be the girl next door forever no you're very wealthy brands are paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars to say something is great and it could be great could not be great i don't know yeah i don't respect liars and i think that's what's frustrating is that people don't care anymore so i've had to be like okay the integrity of the beauty community has been compromised people gotta come back on that part and if people really want the truth they know where to find it and my views speak for themselves and you know and they always have and you've been very consistent with your honesty which i've always respected it's it is so good i

do just want to say like i've known you for so long and you've always been in a good fucking spot yes honest about you know when you go through things and stuff but like it just feels like i am talking to a jeffrey 7.0 like you it feels like you were just died someone i mean you've done everything and it's cool that you're in a place where you can do whatever the fuck you want but what is next for Miss Jeffrey Lynn like what what do you want to do what are you passionate about what are you doing who are you fucking what would you think about if I was sucking on camera it's actually so funny that you say that

I was just going to ask you i can't breathe i was just going to ask you questions in that realm you've never done that right like for the for an audience i've never fucked or sucked on camera but i can't i would be a liar if i said that i never will right like i'm not saying i will say but i'm not saying it's fully off the table yeah does i i look at the tape in the corner of my room like the hat man every day. Like I'm thinking about, you know what I mean? I'm just,

and it's easy. It's so easy. And, you know, I'm not glorifying all, I'm just saying in our personal positions. Of who we are and our history of online. Yes, and when you're sitting on the vault.

We're not random hookers that are just gonna fucking hop on. I look at Makoa every day and I'm like, God damn, we could just run away with the money. You know? I've had those thoughts.

But I, but I knowing you, when all those celebrities did OF, I remember like Tyga and just whatever. I was like, damn, I could see Jeffree Star doing this, but you're going to put a business spin on it. Go ahead. Tell me what it is. Well, she asked what's next. I am 90% done with an autobiography. Don't know when it's coming out.

I can't wait. Someone really, a really famous writer wrote it with me and they interviewed me for almost two years and it's just really insane. So a book of being in my mom's stomach till right before Wyoming, like my entire life up until Wyoming is the book. It's insane. It's very inspirational. It's very dark.

And shockingly, even though I showed so much on my YouTube channel, every surgery, every crazy secret, every whatever, I still have a lot of secrets and things from my past and childhood that I'm ready to share. Not to like, Ooh, it's spicy to make some money. I relate to this so hard. Yes. And there's a lot of dark things and things I went through that I have never told anyone and things that happened to my family. And I just feel like it's going to inspire a lot of people to see what I've created from the dirt. Right. I cannot that I have never told anyone and things that happened to my family and I just feel like it's going to inspire a lot of people

to see what I've created from the dirt, right? I cannot wait to read that. So that's one. I can't wait for the audio book.

The audio book is crazy high. How are you? I cannot wait. I really mean that. I'm so happy for you. I can't wait. It was really therapeutic too.

Yes. I'm in the writing process right now. Yes. Oh my God. It's traumatizing as well though. I cry over the fucking computer. We interviewed my mother and my mom told me things I've never heard before.

And I'm in my thirties. So it's like hearing new things about my past. It was just all so healing and a wild rollercoaster. So that's one wild thing where, you know, I'm working on. That's like really like, I have to say that's,

I'm so like moved by that. Yeah. It used to be the right moment. Second on a whole other tinge is like I have been teaching makeup for so long. I think before I get any older, I should start teaching how to suck dick. I've always said that about you. I could use some help. You've actually always given me like, even just back in the day, you were like, girl, listen.

So I feel like while I still look like this. So you're talking how to. Yeah. Is it one of those things where, here's my guess. And I'm guessing you don't have to say yes or no. But I think it's going to be, look how long my makeup lasts. Oh, I mean, that's definitely a concept, right? Like, look at what my liquid lipstick can stay with stain.

Absolutely. Oh, it could be like trying product. Or like, how does this last through? Yes. And that's real. That's fun. And that's cute. Right.

But also people need education on what they're doing. You know, that's my version of a site. Who's that's like, even just crazy. You have to like, it's gotta be the most beautiful. Do you want to see a few? Yes. Okay. Okay.

You know, I do. Yes. Oh my God. I'll pay for it too. You might know a couple in here but um it's so fun you listen to their music you don't know them personally yeah yeah love always uh where are the cameras angle but yeah so i think that might be a really nice adventure for me and i'm being how serious are you very yeah i just think it'd be really fun it doing even just like i've never done like tapes and stuff but i've always loved

doing of i took a little break this summer but it is did you ever show what did you show just like tits and ass and like no sexy videos in that way no vagina like i think that's that's an all-in or nothing for me like i wouldn't be like here's a selfie right like it's like's like taper. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, and I would want to like, if you're going to get that far, you'll take it. Well,

I don't want to say that because she was against that. Right. But what, right. Cause hers was stolen. Yes. Yes. I just think that I'm at the stage of my life where I,

I've never cared. Yeah. And I've done so much. I've lived 10 lives and I just think like it's, I'm surprised you never just uploaded one to YouTube. Same. In the height of everything. Uh huh.

Genuinely, I'm surprised. On Twitter? Yeah to YouTube. Same. In the height of everything. Uh-huh. Genuinely, I'm surprised. On Twitter? Yeah. Yes. Oh my God. They have strict rules. I know. They do.

They'll get you. So if you guys go live. We should go live while I'm in town in LA. I would love to. Because there's rules and things you can't say. And you guys would get banned in like 10 minutes. I know. Oh my God.

Yeah. I need the crash board. I just can't record. And my vaping problem. You can't drive. No. I would need a nicotine patch. You can't drive in the car.

You can't vape. But you lean off camera. Yeah. I get high I just lean off camera Yeah Oh yeah Real

We call it watering the plants On my channel On my page God that's so Yeah you know Autobiographies Tapes Both things

I couldn't relate to Do you think people Are ready for it Like I Yes I just a huge C*** in my mouth

Yes I think if anything People The magic trick of it All disappearing They're on the edge Of their seat for it she needs help yeah yeah i think we all we all could learn a few things maybe i don't know but you also make it cool to say like i want to starfish and i'm like there are people like me and jeffrey who want to swing from this about it like i i it's not

i don't know i just like to lay there and that's like you you know what it depends on how much i care about the person. Like right now I have someone I care about. So now I'll do a little swing around. No, no, no, no. You are not the girl that these straight dudes tell me after we fuck. Oh my God. These girls just lay there like a dead fish.

That can't be you. There's a community. No, there is. There's a community of the layers. It's not me, baby. I'm swinging. But I'm just saying. There's a very niche market for me.

That's what I'm hearing. So you're not the girl hanging off the side of the bed upside down getting skull fucked. No, I've got that covered. I will if I care about the person, but more often than not, I don't. Right now, I care about the person, so I'll do whatever he needs me to do or wants me to do. I also hit my max on that, and I had to dial it back. Same. You know what I mean?

It's like, whoa, wait. Well, I think it's fun to have ho phases on and off, whatever you're in the mood for. You go through phases in life of just having a lot of fun. Are you in a ho phase right now? No. No. So what are you looking for in a net?

So I don't, did you date? Can I even say his name? Who? Can I say your ex, your famous ex's name? Should we give him a name? Let's call him Voldemort. No, I'm Voldemort. The beauty industry of that who not should be spoken.

So Nate, after dating Nate, did you get in any other serious relationships? Nothing ever. It probably taught you about not being as public. Yeah. So obviously that relationship was really serious, right? He met me when I barely had any money. And people saw the growth of everything from kind of first meeting till the end on youtube and i think i just showed a lot right and i've always showed a lot and i think moving forward i probably wouldn't do that again and i don't think it was a negative at all um i

just think the older i get i enjoy a little bit more privacy you know so after that serious amazing relationship i never went fully in that hard with anyone i dated and i've had fun with people i had your guard up as well duh i don't know probably had your guard oh yeah i was nodding my head i had no idea like but it's just like that pen you need a hit no you don't you'll get mark you see i can't imagine what type of thc is in jeffree star's pen like i would see the hat man i would go non-verbal behind you um we'll cut this part out i don't give a fuck i could be sitting on it oh thank you jeffree i want to upload this raw like i love every oh i love that we're all we love it raw we love it raw so yeah i think right now i'm really busy with my

career i am hanging out with someone we're enjoying each other's time but i'm not i'm not dating anyone well it's probably it was so hard for you because when someone loves you you don't have anything when someone has like loves you when you don't have anything to offer them and then that goes crazy and you now you like you're never gonna be that jeffrey again you have to have your guard up tenfold what are you looking for and do you see yourself ever settling down and marrying one person i don't know i'm at this really weird crossroads where i'm not searching for anything i'm not lonely and i'm having the time of my life um i'm hanging out with someone and enjoying their time and i travel a lot so i'm really not like do you fly commercial

ever yeah i can't imagine seeing jeffree star on 35. Did you see that TikTok of me commercial? No. I'm going to show it to you. It's so funny. Recently, a dad filmed me because he recognized me from his daughter was watching me. Yeah. And when you're in Casper, Wyoming, let's say you're going to fly to LA, you always have to stop in Denver or Salt Lake because our town is 60,000 people. It's tiny. So, you know, the jumper planes where there's no first class or economy.

It's just like 50 seats. So someone filmed me being like, oh, is he going through financial issues? And I'm like, the fuck?

What are you talking about? And so I responded to it like, your dad wants to fuck me. That's why he was filming me. That's what's going on here. And I was like, nope,

there's only 50 seats in the plane. I was in 2A, but there's no, it was just so weird. But yeah, I'm Delta 360 Diamond Messiah Missing.

I love a good Delta moment. That's so good. But no, I'm not, I'm not looking for love. I think whatever is going to happen or drop down my throat will. And yeah. But I'm over the whole phase right now and I'm just chilling. That's good. Yeah.

We have a lot going on. But people are enamored with my TikTok crush. They are. Yeah. Wait. No. Wait. Don't say wait. They are. Is it the guy that you posted? I'm so nosy.

You guys were like lifting each other or something. He was lifting me. Yes. Yeah. We're best friends and we have fun. What would you call that? A relationship. A relationship.

Yes. But that's crazy. That's good. What makes you guys best friends how'd you meet you're gonna you're gonna rip your hair out okay tick tock did you ever think so here's the thing though let me say one thing no i did think because i've never been on a dating app so when me and nathan were together i felt like it was the height of that was five years so it was like five years ago for five years i feel like that was like the height of dating apps i've never been on a dating app. So when me and Nathan were together, I felt like it was the height of those five years. So it was like five years ago for five years. I feel like that was like the height of dating apps. I've never been on a straight or gay dating app. Never been on Grindr. Never been on anything else.

I couldn't even imagine. Imagine being on Grindr. And just swiping and there's me. Hello. Yeah. Fuck. I met Nate on Instagram and I met, um,

you know, I've met a few guys on TikTok. I think Instagram is like a dating app. When I was single, I would save the men in a folder just titled men there's folders? like yeah you can make folders and collections of what you save

but see the thing is I think when you guys were introduced to battling in the Jason Nash world you're like this is so fucking stupid but like when you're in Wyoming bored sometimes and you've already done your thing

you've made a lot of money battling is also fun and people love gifting it's like like I said I do love the serotonin of serotonin it is a video game it's so fun and i love playing and and being live is better battling being live we're doing a live after this but and that's the thing if we do there's no gifting in there well i guess it is yeah but i do love i want to pop in on it you should i would love it i would absolutely we should do a battle

moment or something if you go live for a little bit and i'll teach you how to do it and i'm like okay i want to battle someone and there's already a couple people in the room like you know because there's so there's like famous tiktokers that aren't doing dancing or creating content it's only in the live stream world there's big creators that are always at the top with me and but they're regular ass strangers in their house with their kids and their like personality about their lives it's so fun so i think it'd be fun what i'm saying is just to bring you in randomly but it's planned uh-huh like okay i'm gonna bring in a partner because we would battle them oh my god and then and then you just pop up imagine just being a girl in like tampa florida and then tana mongeau and jeffree star

battling you for galaxies like that's i'd be so scared oh no no that's unfair no no our team throws lions universes and pegasus yeah unlike jason's team my team my team uh they go a little heavier we don't focus on child support we focus on real money no yeah i don't even know what a pegasus is it's the highest gift you can send on the app how much does it cost so it costs um like 800 but the trick is it's a gift only for level 50s there's only 20 level 50s in all of america and you have to spend over a million dollars on the app and i have two accounts that are level 50 you're so you're a 50 that's amazing you're so like that is so about 20 people're so cool. So you're a 50? That's amazing. You're so cool. Like that is so cool.

So only about 20 people in America can send a Pegasus. Jason's never seen one. Let's be honest. No one's sent anyone. I saw Alyssa Violet was going live too now. Like she hopped on the train. It's also really fun. More power to her.

I think when you look at other people, you can like, I have the best fucking time. Any of the best fans, like the conversations. I was having a good time in there last night. I was like, oh shit. When you're on Patreon, I'll go live for 10 minutes here. And people would gag. People just love it. It is so fucking fun.

Stop. It's so exciting. And the battling is really fun. It can be. It's just so awesome. I need to get into it. I never spend a lot of time on the live page. And I never like really see anybody.

Because it's all about banter. Like people'm i play a character like i'm me obviously and i have friends on there and we all hang out in kiki but like if i'm battling other like dudes or people i get vicious and they get vicious back like they go in on each other's look so we all go like we're fucking vicious that's so fun you're right i could really just i'm a place to get it out people love gifting heavier because i'll see these dudes on the screen i'll be like your hairline's fucked that's how i start the match like they'll come on the screen i'll be like oh need and a lot of them already live that i'm on the screen and i'm just immediate head cut off wait stop that is so fun i would absolutely love so it's just like i love to get i love that you're in every avenue right now all of it like the

reinvention it's so important do you think it's because you don't eat fast food that you're in every avenue right now too. All of it. Like the reinvention, it's so important. Do you think it's because you don't eat fast food that you have all this energy? Maybe. I'm going to try it. Or, I don't know, it could be being happy. I think I was really miserable towards the end of my LA journey, right? I think the pandemic ruined so much.

And had you stayed, like where would you be now? You'd probably be in a cult like Michelle Phan. Yeah. Is she actually in a cult? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, Michelle Phan's in a cult, I guess, yeah is she actually in a cult yeah okay yeah michelle fawn's in a cult i guess and someone has her beauty line still no i've never seen anyone

wear her makeup before it's m beauty it's oh i didn't i've only ever known about ipsy i didn't even know she had a makeup line but okay so that she's you just made light of this to me but apparently she's interviewing tati and she's still around but all the clips I've seen she's like not there it's what is the quote I don't know it's like a vacant version of her and she got involved with some people are controlling her I don't know it's bizarre I just don't think no offense because she is an OG and I don't want to disrespect her I've never said anything bad about her and I don't want to is I don't think that she's relevant anymore her opinion is not relevant and that's not saying in a negative way like fuck her it's just a fact yeah I don't think that she's relevant anymore. Her opinion is not relevant. And that's not saying it in a negative way,

like, fuck her. It's just a fact. Yeah. I don't think anyone is seeking out to see if she approves of the new Makeup by Mario palette. I don't think anyone cares. Because was she ever known for, like, reviewing? She was almost known for, like,

turning herself into, like... Transformations. Yeah, and that's so different. And she was at the forefront. And to me, she was the first beauty YouTuber. Yeah, OG. Much respect to her. i didn't mean that in a negative way it's just i think her time has passed stop it right now i mean listen i was

sitting in a 25 000 square foot house by myself and my dogs and i was like i'm bored i don't i didn't i can only have tana moshe come over and eat jack-in-the-box so many times it kind of wears thin you know but it's also hard to look at a stranger and be like the glass elevator and theater got old it's like no having so much shit and stuff that i thought i needed to fill a void got old and then once i woke up and had an ego death and realized i didn't need anything but myself sold the pinball machines didn't have them all still i do i love it's really good but i sold like 90 of my clothes i sold a lot of stuff i shed a lot of things and i'm in that era right now as well it's just you realize you don't have that stuff i'm big on that travel light through life

it is beautiful yeah and hollywood can just get so dark and you probably saw so much of the darkness of it and it's i'm just good for you for getting the fuck out you know what i want to ask you about actually i think jeffrey would be a really good person to ask about this um we've been talking about it a bunch lately tunnels under hollywood okay do you believe in them do you think they exist have you been to them they are real really i knew i would know i'm pissed i'm not invited to nobody's even thought to tell me about it. Keep going. Well, there's so many different tunnels. Because the old days, I mean, really, we built our city on top of a city that kind of already existed. So there's just a lot under there.

And do you think celebrities really use them? Do you think people really use them? Yes. And you think it's the 1%? Like, you think it's just like the... It's definitely the 1%. And the problem is I've been invited to these scenarios and I've felt like the sickest, most lead, cancerous feeling ever

and I've never gone down those routes. So same with like Illuminati stuff. I'm sure you're going to say the same thing. It's real. You've seen it, but you didn't want to take a part in it. Because there was a while where people really thought you were Illuminati. Honestly, I was people. I'm still not sure.

We may still hang out sometimes. Damn, that's so crazy. I'm just not going to be a Hollywood puppet and entertain anything dark or illegal. They tried to blackmail and coerce me over and over and over to do horrible things. And I'm just not a horrible person. So you obviously believe all of this ddy stuff is real and darker than it's even shown. Yes.

Yeah. And I'm glad people are finally seeing it. I think when they saw him viciously assault Cassie, it all made sense because all we do is know his music and he's great. And then I think when you actually see someone as a monster, it's like, holy fuck. Like, yeah, horrible. that's crazy jeffree star that video

ruined my month when i saw it yeah horrible but so it was almost like nothing positive about it but i was happy that she was validated because i was reading her comments like right after um she had sued him and got like pennies but like comparatively and everyone's like you were out for a check you're so pathetic disgusting liar and immediately after it's funny it's like go back and delete your comments you guys are so embarrassing yeah that is satisfying but it was like very weird like not that i would want anybody to have a video like that but it's it was like i'm i'm thankful there was proof to validate because when women aren't heard, I think that's the worst case scenario is when someone doesn't believe someone

that is actually. Especially when someone's so powerful, you assume that they are like people. I mean, listen, I fully believe Diddy killed Tupac. So it's like, I'm sure she knew all of that. You don't think he's in bed laughing about that shit once that NDA ink dries. Yeah. And they're not sitting in bed one day and he's like, that was funny when I killed.

We don't say NDA ink drying enough. That ink dries. Yeah. And they're not sitting in bed one day and he's like, that was fun when I killed. We don't say NDA ink drying enough. That's, that's beautiful. Yeah. So yeah, I think. And Kim Porter, right?

She. They offed her. Absolutely. Allegedly. Yeah. Does it ever scare you to say things like this? No. But I guess.

I have no fear, which is why I don't think they've taken me out. I just didn't want to play the games or be a puppet. The devil works hard, but Jeffree Star works harder. Yeah. Yeah, that's nuts. I've sucked the devil off.

He's not bad. He's kind of boring. That's our third clip. Yeah. Oh, my God. He's kind of boring. I love you so fucking much, Jeffree Star. We all have it.

What? Show now. We all have it. Wait, I don't see it. Oh, the 666. When did you get that? Did you get that during, during like your MySpace era? No.

So I didn't get indicted. I'm scared. So funny. No, the drummer of Metallica and Kat Von D actually did that on me. It's a really cool story. How are you and Miss Von D? I forgot about all that. We're still best friends.

Shut the fuck up. Oh, you're, no, you're lying. You're not. Haven't talked in so long. I saw her on Theo Von and I was like, whoa, like I just forgot. I forgot she existed. I know. I know.

That's what we need is you on Theo Von Jesus. So two days ago I just saw him. Really? Yeah. We just hung out at a bar. He did a show in Casper, Wyoming. He had the whole arena sold out in my little hometown. And he was so fucking funny. He's also a client of ours.

You know, we own Killer Merch. Yes. Me and Mark and a friend. We print merch for an array of UFC influencers. Always have. And you've always killed it. No pun intended. And comedians.

I would love to see you on this past weekend. I feel like it'd be. He has the best. He has questions nobody would ever think to ask and i love that did you watch the cat interview was it good i they were talking about like ghosts and shit it was i think theo vaughn could interview a blender yeah he's just so curious he's the funniest person isn't it bizarre because you guys have all had best friends for a long time then all of a sudden you don't talk anymore it's bizarre that she was such a big part of my life.

Was there a falling out or was it just like, oh, am I dumb? I don't think Jeffrey's ever just peacefully walked away with anyone. Some people you just grow apart. Yeah, that's true. This was like 2016, so you missed that, thankfully. Yeah, it was before Drama Got In. I remember that. It was way before.

It was actually one of the first real big drama moments i had in my career because someone who is never in drama came out and tried to disparage and ruin my career and say a bunch of lies it was yeah and someone you loved so much yes best friend of 12 years went on camera all all weirded out um and made a weird salacious video about me. How crazy. It was very bizarre. It's so crazy how many lives you've lived. Like the MySpace era even just. One of the best times.

Like that's when I first knew of you. So we were just in Vegas at the When We Were Young Festival with Mike Hemel Girl Romance and Pierce the Veil and all these bands. And it's like, it was the best. I've been dying to go to that festival. So good.

And those were the best times being on the Vans Warped Tour, being in tour buses, touring the world. What do you think about all these TikTok boys now being punk? Because you are punk. Listen. You know punk. They're wearing a costume.

It's cute. Let's see what happens in a couple years. It used to be crazy shit. Ozzy Osbourne shitting on the walls and shit. Yes. God, what's the craziest shit you saw in that time like just like fucking oh my god just people just being rock stars and just being outlandish and it was so fun what's the craziest thing you ever did as a rock star what is your version of crazy

well when i think punk and crazy i do think about the motley crews of it all and the ozzy osbourne's of it all and the i've never done anything i don't know i think people think i'm gonna say something really wild but i don't know i just i just like to have a lot of a lot of fun yeah you know nothing like getting banged out in paris yeah i've always said right in par specifically. That's where I had my final hurrah. Yeah. I double ended Delta. I love it.

I've been on air France just second. Oh my God. Absolutely. And they have great food too. It's just a whole experience. Oh my God. It's a beautiful experience. The private jet just swallowing loads. Stop it now.

He gets it. We just did that. I'm in 42B. So music though, like, well, you, you just said you were,

you just immersed yourself back in that. We just put out a couple new songs. I haven't recorded music in 12 years. And my first album just turned 15 years old. Beauty Killer. I remember you have so many birthdays happening. I know. I was one of the first people.

So your birthday, did it just pass or is it coming up? November 15th i'm november 26th oh really okay so we just celebrated it's 15 years old it has nikki minaj on it and a bunch of people wow that's so fun it's hot so we re-recorded uh a song and made it country and i recorded two new songs and one of them they're out or they're not out they're out right now i can't wait to stream they They're really good. I can't wait to stream. Yeah. So there's three new songs.

How exciting. Are you country now that you're in Wyoming? I really love the cowboy life. So there is a kind of a country song. Me too. I'm addicted to it. And then there's two dance rappy songs. One's called Hi, How Are Ya? On brand.

And then there's another one called Red Lipstick featuring Yellow Wolf, the amazing rapper. That is so amazing. That is so amazing. This is so amazing. I love love to my Cobain. That's beautiful. Yeah. We re-released that. It's called Lollipop Killer, the little EP that has the song.

Yeah, it's so... You're inspiring me in so many ways. It's so fun. You always have inspired me in so many ways. She did music before. People loved our shit. I just did music before her era. I might delve back into all of it.

I'm revisiting so many things that I never thought I would. Let's do a song together. Come on. And a YouTube moment. And a YouTube moment. I know that long form videos are never going to do what short form does now. But I'm going to dive head first back into YouTube for my OGs. And I would love to do something with you.

Like just a. You have to play later. It's fun. What'd you say? You have to play the songs later. They're fun. I am listening to all of them. I know you'll copyright strike me

so I'll wait a bit. No, you can put them in here if you want. We can give you the The go ahead. The white label, yeah. Yes. Oh my God.

Stop it. But I'm serious. I do want to revisit YouTube and we got to I want to come to Wyoming with you. I really A lot of people come out and visit.

You'd be surprised. A lot of TikTokers have been out there. A lot of streamers. A lot of people. Oh wow. I want to come to Wyoming. Please. I really, I think a lot of people come out and visit. You'd be surprised. A lot of tick tockers have been out there. A lot of streamers. Oh, wow. I thought it was, I thought it was more exclusive and I had to beg, bitch.

I'm coming. Well, everyone goes to Jacksonville. How far are you from Jackson? Five hours. I love only because the story you said, hold on. I just keep hearing about Wyoming.

That's where everyone goes on their little ranch vacation. We really should do. Yeah. It's so fun. I love it out there. I'm just, wow. Jeffrey, you're fucking, you're killing it. We've always been killing it.

We're cockroaches. And I can't, you can't kill us. You can't. We're not going anywhere. It makes me so happy that all these years later, I've just always been able to call you a friend and like still can. I could sit and talk to you for fucking eight hours.

Same. And I would love to have you on anytime you want. And I just, I'm like. I'll be a triple co hours. Same. And I would love to have you on anytime you want. And I just, I'm like, this is. I'll be a triple co-host. Please. We would love it. I would absolutely fucking love it. It is called Cancel.

And I just love you so much. I really do. All of the things. Go watch the lives. Go buy the products. Go, you don't need any promotion from us. But I will be reading that book and watching that tape and streaming that music and all of it.

I am and I'm watching the tutorial that you're going to post part oh yeah yes how to deep throat and i'm god it's deep throat 101 and i'm so excited for you and trisha to have your moment two of the three of us should do something it just feels good to i'm so happy that we're out of all the toxicity of those eras and we've all grown so much but the small parts that we're able to hold on to that are we all have really great memories it's it really every time i see those clips it like it makes me so happy and you didn't have to welcome me in and i wasn't even a beauty guru you didn't have to remake my how to cake your face like a pro and get 30 million views when i met her it was just like we really just

clicked have you seen old clips of us of course i of course. I was watching it in real time. That's so cool. There's no old clips for me. I was there. But now we are in just a new era and life is beautiful. I love to see it. I feel like it's so cool. Like it's just cool to see. Listen, our final thoughts are

nothing defines you and nothing is forever and fuck everyone. I needed that. I couldn't agree more. I think you are the perfect guest for this time. Like I'm genuinely I'm like tearing up. Like I'm so fucking like just wow. I'm't agree more. I think you are the perfect guest for this time. Like I'm genuinely,

I'm like tearing up. Like I'm so fucking like just wow. I'm really happy to have you. Thank you. And episodes like this also make doing this podcast feel worth it. Yes. You know? Really?

Thank you. Of course. Thanks for having me. I can't thank you enough and I'm coming to see the Yaks, bitch. Please. Oh my God, I didn't even tell you. What? Well, I know Mike Snedeker told you about how I shoved a Jeffree Star makeup brush up my ass,

but that's a different story for a different time. That's my favorite part of the show. I've been telling that on stage. When he came up to me, I didn't obviously expect that story. Yeah. I was like, hi. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's actually how we started talking because Mike, because on stage on tour, I've been telling this story about how I shoved a Jeffree Star ex-morphine makeup brush up my ass when I was tripping with Tart and Turks and Caicos and why I had to shove it up my ass. This is my favorite. It's just so recognizable. So iconic. I was trying to remove something out of my ass like a cake pop

with a Jeffree Star ex-Morphe pointed eyeshadow brush that you carve your crease with. Morphe still owes me money. Me too. Well, let me stop. The bankruptcy. I'll never get my me money. Me too. Well, let me stop. The bankruptcy. I'll never get my 1.6 million. Yeah, that's how much they owed me before they filed.

How does that work? You're doing a collab with Morphe. They owe you this money. Obviously, I got paid several times. And then the next payment was the 1.8. They decided, well, the new CEO fell into cancel culture, right? Linda Lisa. That was way past that yeah yeah and you know whatever and at the end of the day they owe me and a bunch of people money still we're never gonna get it they filed for bankruptcy and they

i can't believe that's allowed but i guess there's nothing you can really do about it but then it's like they're just moving forward paying other creators to do stuff that's oh yeah how does that make sense i don't know. There's no back pay situation? Did you get canceled? No. You were saying they fell into cancel culture. Meaning they decided not to work with me over the second video. Oh.

When the second video came out and I got canceled and Morphe didn't want to work with me, what did I do wrong? To the core of it, what did people think that I did wrong? I'll never know. They just thought I was a shitty person i'll never know but it is just nuts with canceled culture and just i don't know what did i do like you would i've done a lot of things wrong that that i've apologized for moved past this specific moment in time was so bizarre do you hold resentment towards what just that like i'm like like what no i don't that makes me happy

that makes me i've healed them move past it it was it was a crazy scenario it was obviously supposed to happen the universe gave me that challenge um and we all dealt with it differently but looking back i just wish i don't know that i think saying you wish things would have happened differently is just selfish and everything's supposed to happen how it was but I wish people could have thought with a different eye it will forever be a polarizing moment in internet pop culture history but I agree with you that I think it needed to happen and I think that yeah and people miss that era so with with me and Michaela um whatever it is that's happening all I did was speak my opinion and

it's obviously turned into this really massive thing on TikTok right I think the thing is is that people in the comments are saying they miss our old era like they don't there's no new rising I miss it there's no new rising beauty stars and there's no big there's not many creators it's me her and a couple girls so it's like the beauty community is so small and lacking new blood cool people the ogs all suck damn maybe i'll pop out and be a guru let's make a lip line he doesn't want to that part like fuck my dad it's so yeah i don't know it's in a weird time and i think a lot of people missed that era because it was so engaging and there was so

much well and there were really genuinely on youtube maybe 25 to 30 creators that were really doing it and people were really attached to it's just now with short form content it's so oversaturated that the it's too easy now to love and fall in love with someone in their weekly video in their life i don't think it will ever happen again in that way and it it is nostalgic and almost sad like i even dude like as this makes i can't even believe i'm saying this out loud but i miss like logan paul's vlogs i like i would wait on them every week like they're just yours and at that time entertainment and then shane came in with the long form the documentaries that feeling when an episode of shane dawson's documentary had just dropped will never be recreated again in my

opinion ever and it's it is like it makes me sad I don't know why but I do have such an attachment to that era forever I almost feel like what long form you got to know someone a lot better so now like people are attached to you still because they know so much about your life I feel like any beauty people like you only know that they're doing makeup and that's it I need to know everything about your life and people just aren't entertaining enough to make a 20-minute video. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That part. Going to Walmart.

Right? Now it's just TikTok. It's just a different time. The only videos that I'm enjoying watching are the two grown men that find pedophiles and beat the fuck out of them. Modern day Chris Hansen? Yes. Wait, I didn't know about that.

Those are my favorite. I thought you were gonna say the costco guys no these dudes they you know they obviously they're decoys and then they they go to wherever it is walmart and they're filming and they upload all the clips to twitter beating the fuck out of them they don't care the old days people just film like oh okay chris hansen you're gonna go to jail no these dudes they start beating them on the side of the head. They start punching the fuck. That's honestly fucking awesome. The one from yesterday, I have to show you guys later.

He takes a pumpkin and smashes it on the guy's head. And he is so fucked on the ground. Just like, yeah, and he wanted an 11-year-old. He should be fucking. Yeah. Absolutely. Damn, that's lit. That is lit.

By the way, when I lived in LA, I had one gun. Now that I live in Wyoming, I have 150 firearms. How are you? I want to get one so bad. Please come to a photo shoot with my Israeli AK-47. I need to show you my stalker. It's actually.

Yes, we have 100 ARs, pink, gold plated. The fuck? You're lying. And we're also allowed to have silencers and suppressors on our guns. So I have 50 of those. Holy fucking shit.

I like I wanted a gun because my stalker, I'm so fucking scared this man's gonna kill me and it's like yes i have security with guns outside but there's something about if i could sleep with it in my nightstand you should get one we should do like there was an era in my life where i didn't need to have a gun and everyone yeah i'll help you get one that's so fun we should have like little little pink you guys go live at six yes we have to do a couple of tiktoks we have we. We have to. Let's do it.

Jeffrey, Jeffrey Lynn. Wait. I love you. I love you. We'll do our outro. I love you. And then I'll get.

The bad lighting's coming in. Don't look at me. No, you look gorgeous from my angle. Fist me. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's like,

I love fisting. I'm like, I don't, I don't. Can I just say it's so funny? Because the second these cameras go off, I'm getting the real tea. And that's like this,

like this episode. Don't tell them that. It's just like, it's nuts. Like what's going to happen. I'm so tight. That's the real tea. That is. I've always said that him that it's just like it's nuts like i'm so tight that's the real tea that is i've always said that about you i can't be fisted no way i've tried i've you're looking at me like i'm a liar okay so afraid it's so funny that he works

for this podcast because he's just so sweet okay guys we love you we love you jeffrey lynn thank you for having me ladies i really really appreciate it tan. I love you friend