Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield - 113: Camilla Araújo on Bhad Bhabie, Alabama Barker, Ash Trevino and MORE..

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

On this episode of the Cancelled Podcast we are joined by Camilla Araújo we talk about Bhad Babie and Alabama Barker, recap her filming with Ash Trevino. We also break the stigma behind the BOP House... and the spicy site. Tana Mongeau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tanamongeau/ Tana Mongeau Twitter: https://twitter.com/tanamongeau Tana Mongeau TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tanamongeaulol Brooke Schofield Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brookeschofield/ Brooke Schofield Twitter: https://twitter.com/BroookeAmber Brooke Schofield TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@brookeschofield1 Brooke Schofield YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzCVovj7tfqnV2lIkaVk35A Produced by: https://instagram.com/oscaralva

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back to the cancelled podcast. Oscar's gonna walk through the shot right now. We're honestly gonna leave it in. Look at that BTS. Hello, Oles. Hi, Brookie Cookies. Hello, my queen. I'm so jealous of your outfit right now.
Starting point is 00:00:13 I literally walked into the store. I wanted it so bad. Here's the thing is what I'm gonna say. We love Miss Helsa. We love Miss Helsa. The brand is great. The pants are too big for me. Way too big.
Starting point is 00:00:25 And that's me and my dysmorphia. Like, why are you ordering a 2XL? You're literally a medium. You ordered a 2XL. Or an XL. They're too big. I don't know. And then just grabbing them today, like in my hands, the button flew off.
Starting point is 00:00:39 And I was like, oh, $300. Yeah. You know what's the problem with an outfit like that? I wear it one time and then it doesn't matter how I store it. I could literally store it in like a perfect little bag. It's going to be so wrinkly I can never wear it ever again. Oh, I thought you were going to say just because it's like kind of memorable. Like it's like I'm stripe girl.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I can't be brown stripe girl all the time. No, I don't care about that. I re-wear an outfit a thousand times. Yeah, I do love a re-wear these days, honestly. With my addicted top that is the number nine, but Isabella said it looks like the letter Y and now I can't unsee it. But Y also feels like a message
Starting point is 00:01:13 I am constantly sending to the world. Why? I want to talk about why, actually. Okay, I've debated, really debated bringing this to the podcast. Well, I should just also say that today we are having Miss Camila from the Bop House on the podcast from lots of things. She just interviewed Ash Trevino,
Starting point is 00:01:32 all the things. I mean, it's so funny. We go back and forth on if we want to be the TikTok drama podcast or not. And then I just think people, sometimes people don't want us to be an interview podcast. I agree. I'm hoping, well want us to be an interview podcast I agree I'm hoping well the reason what sold me is I'm going to the bop house at the end of March that's
Starting point is 00:01:50 so exciting I cannot wait to see the content I am so I am so excited but I called her and it was supposed to be just like a five minute call and then we ended up being on the phone for like 45 minutes and you know how sometimes you do not enjoy that and it feels as though you wish we you still had minutes and you could be like my minutes are running out but it was the exact opposite with her like i really enjoyed the call it was a great conversation i was like oh shit yeah she's very smart yeah like if it if it was just an interview i feel like i wouldn't but like i feel like it's gonna be a kiki with the girls hopefully but also i'm wrong a lot i'm wrong more than she is it's every time i think an episode or an interview is going
Starting point is 00:02:25 to be a banger actually just afterwards i should lay on the 405 that's something we should talk about we never really mentioned that the fact that like almost every single episode ever that's come out and been like a major controversy we've sat down after and been like that was amazing oh that's funny that's not what i thought you're gonna say but you're so right like i think my finger's so on the pulse or even just i'm like this will do so well and then it's everyone's like why the fuck would you do that yeah you know really actually crazy so off the pulse but i did just like love watching her interview ash trevino and it's interesting i want to know what happens at the bop house i want to know she's she's team bad. I feel like she told me some intel on the phone the other day.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm wondering if she'll share. But as we do before our guest comes, we like to just yap a little to the girls. Absolutely. Now I want to know why. Why? Okay. I just, I don't ever like bitching about my new house that I just bought. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And everyone gets so on me for constantly saying this phrase but it's so true like obviously if you told 15 year old me with a dirty door that she would be able to do this it's the most grateful thing on planet earth but I was debating between two houses okay and I think about the one that I passed on a lot okay there was mold there was a lot wrong with it I would have had to put like damn near a million dollars into this house, but it was cheaper. So it would have ended up being the same price. Kind of.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I decided in the final moments that it just wasn't the right decision for my first house to be a house that has a lot of mold, a fixer upper. Yeah. You know, like Tana loves mold. We just, we,
Starting point is 00:04:01 we need to let that die. And I, so I pick this house that everyone and I'm talking inspectors and my realtor and all the people around me it's perfect you know we get all the inspections it's perfect nothing is wrong with it even the inspectors are like I haven't seen a house with this little problems in so long it just it felt so right and then i move in and it's just like as everything keeps going wrong everything costs ten thousand dollars everything everything costs like the other day for example we keep trying to heat the pool right and we're just we're trying to heat
Starting point is 00:04:36 the pool we're using the apps we're doing all the things and it keeps saying it is but it isn't how long it takes a long time right oh yeah we're trying for days before the super bowl party we're trying to do our thing whatever we go in to the pool heater and it is made known to us that this is a home for rats the rats are they've got a two-story condo they're they're catching a vibe in my pool heater wires completely chewed through and i'm like okay perfect let's get a new pool heater how much eight thousand dollars honestly that sounds about right eight thousand dollars for a pool heater i will rub sticks together myself i get it but it's just like there's got to be a way around that like what do you mean it's eight thousand dollars and that's everything like the hvac system's kind of shitty like and it's just like there's another 10 and then it's eight thousand dollars and that's everything like the hvac system's kind of shitty like and it's just like there's another 10 and then it's like i wanted a yale lock in the door and yale
Starting point is 00:05:29 comes to install it and yale is yale lock um beep boop boop number oh i like that i lose keys you know and yale is the esteemed company it's the best in the business they come out and the guy installs it wrong then he tells me to go fuck myself he tells me i'm sorry i installed it wrong you're gonna have to pay for someone else to install it right second guy third guy now it's apparently it's a yale problem i have to take it up with yale the lock was just they gave me a faulty fucking lock i can't even get in my house like and it's i'm missing things too i don't even know what i'm missing well i think you were about to tell us about your chandelier well yes wallpaper removal was also like five thousand dollars and i just really thought it was going to be some guy with a butter knife and like 600 bucks it's just
Starting point is 00:06:12 still upset about that though that was like that was you know those tiktoks of people like taking the character away oh here you go that's what happened no that wallpaper was so karen maga central like it was just giving angry bored mom with lots of fake Like it was just giving angry, bored mom with lots of fake plants. It was just a glow. What's Maga about liking the planet? In fact, I would say
Starting point is 00:06:32 it's anti-Maga. No, it's not about liking the planet. That wallpaper just gives Karen galore. Like I don't know how to explain it. Like you know the cursive
Starting point is 00:06:42 I love Karen. The cursive writing of Live, Laugh, Love. Yes. Millennial. It was so Live, Laugh, Love Millennial. I'm going to lime wash it soon. explain it like you know that the cursive i love karen the cursive writing like live laugh love yes millennial it was so live laugh love millennial i'm gonna lime wash it soon we'll have character i'll hang a painting don't worry i want to talk about our podcast studio okay everyone's like oh we hate this studio me too sorry i'm kidding i don't hate this studio it's haunted but we're building a podcast studio and for some reason I think this is going to take five minutes you know I'm like it'll take five minutes peel
Starting point is 00:07:10 and stick we'll have a studio boom bing bang boom another thing that's also $25,000 today they came and they started building and they let us know very soon before this is something I feel like I should have known all along that the chandelier must be removed from the room okay and in my opinion no the fuck it doesn't need to be removed i'm gonna say i saw i told you i was like that's gonna have to be it does it's too low people will hit their head tall yes it goes down to like here it's definitely supposed to be over like a table 100 and yeah we have to get it removed and then last night a task rabbit comes to remove it a chandelier remover can i say something yes and i'm not hating on your like but is task rabbit
Starting point is 00:07:54 the right place to find somebody who's doing a task like that yes really i kind of feel like it's like you feel like it's boof i feel like it's a little boof Like I love TaskRabbit I live and die by TaskRabbit But it's kind of like getting like A Groupon for something like really That you shouldn't get a Groupon for Like a Groupon for a boob job Okay That's like a really
Starting point is 00:08:16 No and I'm gonna I'm gonna have to honestly agree with you After my last 24 hours But the thing is also Is that the second you start going through an official company everything's seven thousand dollars and then you still can't get in your front door you know it's there's just there's no winning for me with this shit lady and the guy comes he needs a ladder and i'm just like dude this is what you do this is your bread and butter what do you mean you don't
Starting point is 00:08:41 have a ladder it's like alexis oakley showing up with no brushes like i literally i can't even maybe he assumed that because you have like a big beautiful i feel like a lot most houses have like a ladder on the side of the house like that's like a a house staple but i also like completely understand why you don't have a ladder but that's again that's like alexis oakley assuming because i'm so beautiful that i have makeup brushes that's a good you know what i mean i'm kidding But I don't have a fucking ladder. Okay? I have a stepping stool. It's not fucking high enough.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Okay. Could we have given him a boot? Like, was there anything that he could have stood on that was... No. I mean, if it hangs so low, how high does he have to be? The ceiling is very, very high. And it does, like, hang low. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And then my security decides that he's going to go get a ladder and he goes to the ladder stores and they're sold out of ladders. So now I'm paying this task rabbit overtime to tell Annalie all about his nasal problems and the chandelier is still hanging. It's so beautiful. And the only thing too, that in the back of my head, I was like, you know what? Once the chandelier is down, I'm going to put that bitch on offer up and i'm gonna make my money back okay meanwhile security once again he goes to the second ladder store they are sold out of ladders he comes back tail between his legs nothing we look this guy with his deviated septum his nasal issues in the eye and we say can you come back in the morning before the builders come we'll get you a ladder he comes back in the morning he now has assisted height he walks into the room he begins to unscrew
Starting point is 00:10:11 the chandelier and it falls to the ground and shatters next question in what world could it have possibly been a one-person job because like if you think about that that's a him but that's on him that's you know that's what i was gonna say that's on him. No, that's what I was going to say. It's not your fault at all. But in my head, I'm like, there's no, no matter how much talent you have,
Starting point is 00:10:31 how are you going to get a chandelier out of the ceiling with just one guy? And at that point, I would have rather given Makoa an Adderall and a stool. Because at least he cares. By the way,
Starting point is 00:10:41 it's not like, like, it's a bit, it's like taking this table from the ceiling. No, I agree. It's just like, I don't, you way, it's not like, it's a bit, it's like taking this table from the ceiling. No, I agree. It's just like, I don't, you know, that's not my expertise, chandeliers, right?
Starting point is 00:10:51 I'm assuming the chandelier expert knows how to remove the chandelier. And now I can't even fucking sell it. Then he's gaslighting the shit out of Annalise saying that it was just installed improperly and if we had an earthquake, someone would have died. And maybe that's true
Starting point is 00:11:06 but though i'm like fuck like that sucks that this is completely someone else's fault and maybe it is you know what i mean even the pool heater i'm like i was researching like whose fault is that and like i could sue my realtor but like i love her you know it's like i'm just and then that would also just cost eight thousand dollars it i just think that people market buying a new a brand new home or a really new home as just like you're done yeah and like a really smart financial decision you'll never regret it it's an investment but i i just had this talk with somebody else who was explaining the same thing to me he was like like it's no longer more financially like smart because by the time like you know it increases like x amount of dollars in the time that you own it but you put
Starting point is 00:11:51 that amount in or more so like oh my god that face is gonna get clipped and there's gonna be another botox tiktok oh my god that botox tiktok was crazy yeah like eight million views i just want to say i'd rather have a frozen face. And then when I make that one face, it's weird. But then like I don't have wrinkles. I completely agree with you. It's like Kim Kardashian's crying face. Like everyone made fun of it.
Starting point is 00:12:16 But like then look at Kim Kardashian's face face. Yeah, I'm with you on this one. But I don't know. Whatever. Well, I'm sorry that's happening to you. I am still proud of you for buying your house. And I hope this doesn't deter you or this doesn't make you regret your decision it's the most champagne problem literally on planet earth that i know that i just think that i wish someone told me like you're gonna bleed money on the most random shit and it's not even gonna be like cosmetic
Starting point is 00:12:36 shit that makes the value of the house go up like pool heaters are eight thousand dollars and just my luck it's i always say i have the the best worst you know, like I'm so lucky to be able to buy this house, but like, of course, it's going to happen in like the most unfortunate way. Of course, rats live in the pool heater. And of course the chandelier was hanging on with bubble gum.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And of course, just, I don't know, just all the things. And that's like one of like a 10,000 other things. So it's just like wild. Like even just her full-time job. It's like a house.
Starting point is 00:13:06 How shit? That's so, that's like most most people like really rich people have like property managers like that their whole job is like to handle all those things all day long and i miss hollywood i know you do but i like i think that that's that'll go away over time because i like really love your area so much i do too and i think i just thought the adjustment would take like two weeks time to be like, oh, I live further. And like I used to always in my Jake Paul era go back and forth from Calabasas. Just happened. I take.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I'm so sorry. I ever doubted you. I am fucking Teresa Caputo. I am fucking Teresa Caputo I am fucking Teresa Caputo because what the fuck was that there's no I'm about to pull my hair up I promise you I do I
Starting point is 00:13:58 I feel so validated I feel so seen I'm never doubting you again I apologize profusely I feel so seen i'm never doubting you again i'm so i apologize profusely i feel so seen no i feel so seen no i feel so seen no i i'm so sorry i'm just repeating myself i have like a stimming issue and i'm not even scared because i knew it's so crazy how many times you've like drilled into my head that this place is haunted and And I'm like, oh, come on. And I promise you it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I just know it. You, we need to look into that. We need to have somebody come sage you or something. I feel, no, but it's like I leave here and I'm fine. Like I just. You feel the energy? I don't know how to explain it. Who can tell you?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Who can like measure you for that? I don't know. To find out if you're like clairvoyant. No, I'm clairvoyant. Wait, that was so crazy. I wish we could have watched that back I saw it like it like literally like dude even the other day I didn't podcast about this because I thought I would just sound skits but now here we fucking are okay here we fucking are I was walking into LAX and I have this like extreme vision that I'm going to run into one
Starting point is 00:15:02 of Maud's son's friends and I see it and then I think in my own head I'm like that wasn't my thought and why am I having that thought that's so weird like why am I gonna run into Maud's son's best friend Brennan right now and I just like think about how weird it is and I go through TSA and sure as shit he's there and he's like hi Tana how are you and in my head I'm trying to have a normal conversation with him but I'm like I just knew this was going to happen 10 minutes ago. That's so weird. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Now I have a weird taste in my mouth that wasn't there before. Am I? That was crazy. I'm having chest pain. I feel bad. But I feel like there's been so many times now that I've doubted you. No, because I- And you've proven me right.
Starting point is 00:15:40 And I regret it. And I should never doubt you again. And I really do apologize about that. Yeah, I think I'm psychic. And like, maybe I'm crazy. That could I think I'm psychic. And maybe I'm crazy. That could be. I'm excited to have Camila on and get all the tea. Let's get her in here.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I think she's here. Yay! You and I have a five-minute phone call because I'm coming in hot to the Bob Pals. Yes. And I'm so excited. The Bob Pals is so excited to have you. I am so excited.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I just feel like I randomly insert myself into certain things certain tiktok things and i this one i was like i'm the og bop i've been a bop forever i got a bop to the top i'm so excited and i just love miami like i'm just so excited but anyways it was supposed to be like a five minute call and then you and i were on the phone for like 45 minutes reading everyone to filth. The amount of tea you have in your arsenal is crazy. And it's just hard being that girl. I feel like the Ash Trevino interview also elevated you to like such a different plane. Because it's one thing. Like the Bop House is insane.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's huge. It's killing it. Like you're killing it. You're so hot. But you said, I'm an interviewer too. And I'm a personality. I think a lot of the times tiktoks are like they're like like 30 seconds 60 seconds and like i'm like no no no
Starting point is 00:16:50 like i'm not guys i swear i'm funny i swear i can be funny and so i'm like okay who the fuck is this astrovino girl so yeah how did that all even like come about and i'm gonna ask you i want you to i don't know enough about her i keep saying i don't want to platform her but i guess i'm not if it's because you are on the opposite side the right side of history there you know which is good so gosh she's so ancient the whole reason this started right because what i don't know if you notice once you start once you see one video game over it's a black hole takes over your life yes but i never in my entire life have i seen her actual account it's just people reposting her lives yeah i don't even know she has i thought for a second i blocked her or something she's like two accounts with like 300k like it's almost like
Starting point is 00:17:36 everyone loves watching her live no one gives a fuck what she's doing that actually has she ever like posted a video does ashley don't have any like videos fully posted a video? Does Ash Trevino have any videos? She fully posted a video being like, it's like a selfie. It's like, the bop house sucks. They're like, da, da, da, da. She made a diss at the bop house. I'm like, okay, period. At least I made it on the main page.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And isn't she like, how old is she? She claims allegedly 36. But I heard she's 43 because she has 1981 tattooed on her body. And somebody in her life said she was 43, I think. Doesn't she give birth year tattooed on her body. And somebody in her life said she was 43, I think. Doesn't she give birth year tattooed on her? 81. One trillion percent.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah. 100%. Or maybe one of her inmate. Ooh. You know what I'm saying? One of her inmate husbands. You see the videos, duh. You're going down the rabbit hole, duh.
Starting point is 00:18:19 As we all do, unfortunately. And then how did it? I would say that I'm i could i i understood the assignment right i'm like okay she lies for clout she does all this shit for clout i'm like so shit let's let's let's have a podcast let's have a little let's have a little fun right like clout trap you want you want to have a conversation let's have a conversation meaning and i told her this in person i said on live it's easy to sit on your phone and just talk you know you're you can't read the comments that fast but when it's like this i'm
Starting point is 00:18:52 like did you or did you not sleep with blank like you can't you can't just avoid it you can't just not you can't just you can't just like thank someone for a galaxy right call it a day that motherfucking part yeah so i was like i reached out to her daughters because because i was like what i don't want is to give her the opportunity to continue to lie no one would have ever known that she sold her daughter out for a fucking galaxy if her daughter wasn't there to say it yeah you can read and here's the thing it will the truth will i will always be you know for the truth you know so having her kids there it was um such a smart move i think when you watch a podcast you can read body language you can you know there's so many cameras and so it's like you'll be able to tell from the facial expressions and i feel like the girls told the story maybe not
Starting point is 00:19:41 verbally but with their face and i needed that every time i would say something it was like a the hospital sellout thing was like crazy it's i feel like that podcast did like because there were so many people before i think supporting her it almost did like shine a whole new light on wait hey ask travino for prison right and it's like it's so funny she's like suing everyone like i wonder if she's gonna try I'm curious, like, how did you get her to agree to it? Like, what incentive did she have? It was all on live. It happened on live. No shit.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It happened on live. I texted her. I DM'd her daughter. I said, hey, I'd love to have you and your mom on the podcast. Because Ashavino loves to act like she doesn't know who people fucking are. Be so what's called fucking for real. She's like, who's Ice Spice? Oh, you were listening to her two seconds ago.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. Anyway. So her daughter calls into, I guess, on her other phone. And she was like, yo, this girl from the Bop House wants you and I to go on her podcast. Like, we have to go. And she's like, obviously hits the who's that line. Whatever. I'll let that one go.
Starting point is 00:20:42 She was like, oh, I'm going to do this to make my daughters happy. My daughter seems so excited about this. Like, I'm going to do this to make my daughters happy. My daughter seems so excited about this. Like, I'm going to make it happen to them. In reality, the daughters are probably just excited for some truth out there, which is also just like. I will say, this is the first time I've talked about it. I have reached out to Haley specifically. And I asked, like, I did say like, hey, like, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Like, is there something I can do? Like, are you okay? I'm sorry if I've caused you any harm I meant nothing but you know I wanted you to be there to tell your story yeah and she even she was like absolutely like um I'm I'm totally fine me and my sister are okay thank you for checking in yeah but I I truly did it so there was no question of you know is she lying is she not you know you saw it right then and there it happened we were there like all together like it happened live yeah so i think where like the where she kind of went off on me was it was not painted in the way she thought it was yeah and she's just
Starting point is 00:21:38 pissed she was my question like pissed did she think it was gonna be like she's probably just an idiot you were on her side literal fuck did you think was going to happen like if you could be so fucking for real for a second yeah what and you think i'm a fan you think i'm gonna she's delusional she really does feel like people she has fans and supporters and like people she sat there dead ass before the podcast started and said i literally hate that i have to go everywhere with security and i just feel like i miss my old life really quick i saw her saying that on live and then ran into her at the airport not a soul in sight she's completely alone like nobody's approaching her by the way security is also expensive and i know she's making a lot of money did you see her walk around with the guy
Starting point is 00:22:21 with like big security across his shirt and you know it's just her friend and he was in vans like i've bought those security jackets off of amazon for 39 so i don't want to hear it for a halloween costume with a lace bra right and a little badge it's like a little plastic badge you can fucking snap in half like i'm over it dude over i mean obviously it's just over right like you're never gonna talk to her again duh so but she tried did you try to sue you sorry she she well she went on live and was like she'll be hearing from my fucking people and then i was like i made a joke right i reached first right people it's so right concerning and so i made a joke i was like i've been sent like three cease and
Starting point is 00:23:00 desist this fucking year i'm like you know what i'm gonna call my fucking attorney and we're gonna cease and desist yes and good for you because it's like people really do try to scare people like you know that's just her doing that and like in the beginning of your career too like the first couple times that and especially so soon for you you know what i mean like right you blow up and now you're like catching all these cases like that's enough to make someone like shut up and stop and be afraid and all the things. And I think it's really good that you're not because it's just like. Keep it coming, bro. And you'll probably end up winning half of them if you really want to go to fucking litigation anyways.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But no, I don't think anyone wants to go there. And to be very honest with you, like everyone does say like, oh, Camilla is like a marketing queen. Like, yeah, I'm one thing I'm not is fucking stupid. Like I am smart. I know what I'm doing. Do I really genuinely, am I actually hurt over these season discs? No. What was the other one, Alabama, though?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Alabama, I got threatened by the Blonde House. That guy, dude, I could get you. I didn't know there was house on house beef. Okay, so we'll get into that. That's fucking insane. I got a call from their lawyers, their attorneys, and they're like, yo, if you don't take this shit down, they're filing a police report.
Starting point is 00:24:10 That's a whole different thing. This is so wild. It's like, just bring internet beef back. Even Alabama, it's like, you want to be a rapper. But it doesn't even be that serious, in my opinion. Yes, and it's like, you can't say that you want to be a rapper,
Starting point is 00:24:22 and then the second someone is detesting you you're running to dad and like ceasing and desisting i i genuinely might be very honest with you i didn't think it was for real the second she was like i i got the letter i was like oh yeah okay cool like i'll just shut up because like i don't care like i don't need this i don't need this like to be honest with you and like yeah like obviously i'm a bad baby fan like to the day i die like i rock for that girl like she's fucking amazing um and i love women in stem i just think like it for me it wasn't that deep i think i actually probably hurt her and hit a spot that kind of hurt and and just the feeling of like i'm losing
Starting point is 00:25:03 and then like you have all those resources. And that's fine. So I just shut up. Just cool. Like, I don't need it. Like, next. Yeah, 100%. She's like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:12 How did that start? Or are we ceased and we're desisted? I mean, nothing's a lie. It was someone commented under my video and was like, yo, you should add Miss Girl to the Bop House. And I was like, oh, I would never, given that the story with her and bad baby's man levon and so i was like i would never i just think that's kind of trash she goes after someone else's man then it spiraled she answered i was like oh bet and she was kind of like of shaming too yeah which
Starting point is 00:25:40 is wild yeah her mom did the original OF, right? Playboy. Yeah. Which, fire, by the way. That's great. Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's like, you should be, it's in your blood. You should be nothing but supportive of this.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And I think a lot of people around her, too, also do OF. So I thought it, I do think when she expressed that, everyone else in her life was kind of like hold up yeah it'd be so strange it's like if i were to say like that's so disgusting and yeah and it's like i'm like you know and you're sitting there like right yeah strange it was just yeah it was just odd so i i was like okay like i guess we're taking shots there well i also think it's just you're in a very wild position i appreciate that you continue to say, no, I'm fucking smart and so on and so forth because it's like the bop house, right?
Starting point is 00:26:28 People are going to immediately just want to diminish you to a bop and a dumb girl. You know what I mean? Even just the way people treat me, the second you do, people are going to immediately just say you're so stupid. And you know what I think is so insane? And I had this conversation earlier today people are brands even you know they won't work with you
Starting point is 00:26:50 if you don't listen to that in the third but it's like why we convert so fucking well the bop house right now is on fucking fire and you can't like i almost want to be the one that like can break through that that that stigma and yeah sure i understand like it's not the most glamorous industry and but i feel like people also say like like it's not horrible it's going to continue to take people like you to slowly knock down that wall that may take 25 years to really knock it down but the first person that does it i promise you is going to fucking change what's all of us i think it's we're all like one brick of knocking it down, you know? And I appreciate you saying not to glamorize it
Starting point is 00:27:27 because I think even I did that for so long because it's like we have this amazing story and like whatever and recognizing that we are, you know what I mean? Like just the, not the 1%, but it's not this. It is not like this for everyone. And I, but at the same time time like i feel like people talk about it in a way where it's like sex like we're like we're being like sex trafficked and we're being like pimped out and we're like it's not a choice yeah this is a i willingly made this making this
Starting point is 00:27:55 decision yes for a lot of us it's it's our decision very conscious choice that we're making it's also i always say the best way to describe it is it's so case by case what works for me might not work for you right why i did it might not be why you do it why i'm doing it and why you're doing it is not why samantha watching right now should do it you know what i mean like it is one of those things that's just so personal and so long as you're honest about that that's just the truth like for me it was like i was getting sexualized from 15 and up on and i wanted to be in my bag about it you know and like for you it was like I was getting sexualized from 15 and up on. And I wanted to be in my bag about it, you know? And like for you, it's like you wanted to do this shit.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I started with Mr. Beast. I was in college. He was in my college town. I used to. You what? Yeah. I blew up off of Mr. Beast's video. Squid Games.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Tell now. Tell now. Tell now. This is in like 2021. Okay. So I went to ECU, which is where like he's in Greenville. Like that's like known so I was working
Starting point is 00:28:47 for one of North Carolina sorry I know that I know that and I love it there yeah do you really
Starting point is 00:28:52 I really love North Carolina isn't that where all the Nicholas Sparks books are based and it feels like that when you're there like the greenery and the fucking house
Starting point is 00:29:00 and the water I love the Carolinas I guess because I grew up there yeah anyway I went to ecu and i was working at um like a bar there and i met a videographer that worked for him so i started working for him and then i ended up getting mixed into like personal assistant jobs for um him and he would anyways so so interesting yeah so. Great. One thing I will always say, Mr. Beast and his people are some of the most genuine, kindhearted
Starting point is 00:29:28 people I've ever met in my entire life. He has always been so nice to me. I saw him recently. He knew exactly. Bro, I haven't seen him since like 2021. He saw me. He knew exactly who I was. Like he remembered.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And people don't do that. No. Let's be so for real. Yeah. Like, no. He knew exactly who I was. He asked how I was doing. Like, also, I was friends with Carl and the rest of the crew just from being around.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But regardless, we filmed Squid Games. It was supposed to be fun. Like, what happened was the first couple days of filming Squid Games, there was a malfunction. Did you ever watch the Mr. B. Squid Game? I did watch it. So, you know when someone died, like, there's, like, a little died like there's like a little thing like they like and like it pops or whatever those were called squibs and so when you would get out everyone in the room like all like the guards had an ipad and they would click your number and it would just pop and then there would be a shot of
Starting point is 00:30:19 it move on to the next round whatever so there was a massive malfunction and there were 456 people involved so half the people didn't show up the next day so they were scrambling calling people calling contestants in to be able to to fill the spots and start shooting the next day and then one of the guys that the guy that i was working for was like yo yo do you want to be in a video like bring a couple friends i was like bet awesome we showed up the next day we filmed um i ended up bringing my friend at the time that's i don't even want to talk about that but that ended very quickly after the after the squid games video but um when the video came out literally i'm not joking 24 hours after the video came out i started off with 7 000 followers regular college student
Starting point is 00:31:03 i woke up the next morning to 145 000 followers in one day wow i did not know that went so viral on twitter everyone like ended up finding my account and then men mainly yeah no like it was like a mix i would say it was like a mix of people because i guess the mr beast audience is mixed mixed but when it got on twitter i guess it was more men yeah so then it translated to tiktok and so i literally for a week straight was just gaining and gaining and gaining and i'm like oh my god like i know i've always wanted to be like a personality on the internet i did modeling for a really long time before all of this so that was something i was pursuing and i was like oh my god this is like my end like this is like my time to shine this is my moment and it's the people who jump on that who end up and i fucking failed
Starting point is 00:31:49 miserably how why miserably miserably miserably i did like i had um i did for like like the first month was great right because when you're popping you know people want to work with you i work with noah beck like i got to meet some really cool people i was like oh my god like i am in my fucking era like what is good right then after like it dies down mind you small town was in college one second the next you work with some of the people that you've watched your entire life yes right what i didn't know what to do with it what direction do you take it in i had i was just i was literally throwing shit like darts yes out of like with a blindfold nothing was sticking i felt so demotivated i wrote actually two tv shows because like one thing i'm really good at no one knows about i'm a really good
Starting point is 00:32:34 writer oh very good writer like i love the television industry like it's just my thing like i can write so i wrote for you for like you for fucking taking all the things. I did everything. Deciding to do the things. I was making YouTube videos. I was making no money. I was asking my parents to help me fund shit. It was a whole thing. And they were so excited that this was all happening. Stop.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Don't even know. I'm crying. Talk to my parents. They're the most supportive people ever. They were like, no, we'll take out a loan. We want to help you with this. Guys, I did everything. And I really was so broke.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And I told myself, I will not go back to school. I'm not going to give myself an option. Determined queen. Not because I don't believe in having an education. I just think I was in for a business degree. I originally started off with nursing because I loved. I like science science is like what i'm really really good at oh shit give me a beaker and i'm crashing out dude no
Starting point is 00:33:29 like that's my fucking chemistry like eat me down like yes no fucking whore for chemistry like maybe that'll be our of collab yeah like oh my god like i'm like a little fucking shut up i'm only a lab coat oh amazing kind of gene that's kind of hot yeah no and then like we're like making some potions and shit like what stop it's just lube i see it now anyway and i just think in general like if you're going to college for a business major it's half those girls that end up getting it and then wanting to be an influencer with it you know yes right so anyways that's the most supportive they're the most supportive parents in the fucking world and um i went i had no money and i was like okay i kind of brought up the idea i was like what if i do and i'm like but i'll because i was posting fucking bikini pictures and low-key being a whore on the internet anyway
Starting point is 00:34:19 so reaching to the choir what the fuck i was posting like all up on instagram so what i was like might as well make a bag so as soon as i brought that up so i'm i'm latina i'm from brazil and um that's like a big no-no you just don't do that like you just don't do that no like my parents like so funny catholic and very like religious and i kind of told them i was like well what if i did this and like i was like what if i was making like 100K a month? They're like, you're never going to achieve that. And they were very upset about it, obviously. Like, honestly, as a parent should be. I was young and I put it off for a really long time. But once I failed, I failed for like a straight,
Starting point is 00:34:54 we're talking like year and a half. They were begging me to go back to school. They were like, just go do community college, do something. I'm like, no, I refuse. I genuinely refuse. Good for you. Met this guy guy moved to orlando and was like you know what fuck that shit i was like i'm risking it all one thing about me
Starting point is 00:35:11 like how i'm going if i'm going out i'm going out with a motherfucking gang okay like if i'm going out like you're everyone's gonna fucking know about it yeah and high risk high reward too right so i was like you know what my boyfriend at the time didn't care that i was gonna start and i was like fuck this shit like i'm going to do it i did it and my parents were like not they were not cool with it i'm very very transparent they were like okay well if you're going to do this you're 100 supporting yourself financially period that's it and i was like all right fuck it i'll make it work was working three jobs i actually i actually worked at a real estate development company um and uh
Starting point is 00:35:45 you're like behind the scenes like i did i worked in your mortgage daddy yeah like i was working for a real estate development i was working at a bar in orlando and i was doing same time you're a hustler and i love that about you i do bitch this is real fucking tea i had to leave the real estate job because the head of the company i actually signed a legal document that i can't say the company's name or him here we are but uh did he subscribe he sexually like oh like what's it like he did not assault me it was like um harassment yes i've been learning the difference between that these days as well. You have to very clearly. He came in and told a story about his sex life to me. And it was very off.
Starting point is 00:36:31 They didn't have HR. They had HR, but it wasn't really established. So he wrote me a really good settlement check. I went to Portugal with it. Came back, changed my fucking life. I was fucking doubling down on only. So then how long were you doing OF solo? Like how did the bop house come about, right?
Starting point is 00:36:48 I was doing OF solo for like, this is going on year three. So I was doing it for like two years with this guy I met in LA when I came the first time. He was the one kind of like, you should start. And I don't know, I was so against it for so long. You can find clips of me on the internet that say I would never. Yeah. Bitch, I did. And I would do it again.
Starting point is 00:37:10 So true. it for so long you can find clips of me on the internet that say i would never yeah bitch i did and i'm doing it again yeah so true anyway i did it for like two years and then i really doubled down and then i was like oh it actually wasn't brought up by me a lot of people think that i'm like the i run the bop house like no babe like i thought that oh everyone i don't know why you just give i think you just have such a big personality i think that's what it is a lot of the girls are very because sophie's kind of quiet right she is she's very quiet she's very like to herself like she's such a sweet soul to be very honest with you she's very she's funny but she's like quirky and like but that's almost all the girls no but you need this to be right like i'm like the like i'm like i give you know what I mean? You're a cunt. Wow. I can't believe that just was used right now.
Starting point is 00:37:49 That's fucking iconic. You're a cunt. It was my favorite time. That's the best era ever. So anyway, it's literally like a group of, it's like a group decision. Like we don't, there's no like decisions being made that are made by one person. Like it's like, hey, should we do this? So are you guys, were you guys all just friends like internet friends or like because here's what i think i really do i think it's so successful because it doesn't feel
Starting point is 00:38:12 i see these all the time in la right where they get the fucking mcmansion and then some guy in a fucking you know what i mean burlington coat factory suit right gets fucking six girls together and then everyone looks like they're being held at gunpoint And I'm so not for it Right And like it feels like it's You guys feel like You are so in control of it
Starting point is 00:38:31 Which I think is so important We really are We really are I think it was It's authentic We didn't think it was Going to be that big We're like
Starting point is 00:38:37 Let's just fucking do something Let's call it the bop house We're making this money Let's get a house Right Like it was kind of just like Yo let's just fuck around Let's do this bop house thing
Starting point is 00:38:44 We're called bops Like let's do a b. Right. Like, it was kind of just like, yo, like, let's just fuck around. Let's do this Bob house thing. We're called Bobs. Like, let's do a Bob house. What do you think about all the other houses, too? Just all the people being so inspired. Or is it like. You know the author that's like, no one is better than the original. That's how I live my fucking life. Well, because even just like the hype house, like, then you'd see all the ones after.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Like, all the. The fight house. You know. What is it? What came after the hype house there's no other house and there was what was it but like maddie monroe and them had like not a content oh no yeah not a content house they had but no one's better than the original it just because it's people trying they always end in like flames the hype house and like these things right
Starting point is 00:39:21 like you're like they're ran by like a guy and this that and the third and i think that a lot of the times there's so many there's so many hands in the pot right and i think that that's the biggest issue is we all make our own money that's it like we all make our own individual money and no one's controlling us to do anything so it's kind of just like we do what we do because we all have the money to fund it ourselves we don't need like these brand deals like yes obviously it helps but it's not the but it's not our main focus is not driving factor no yeah no and that's what genuinely allows us to have fun i think that's the biggest difference is we're all not depending on monster or celsius and that's a big message to girls out there because now i'm sure too so many agencies are trying to create what you guys have and royally suck my dicks and are
Starting point is 00:40:04 exactly and are probably reaching out to these girls like this is gonna be just like the bop house and it's like no they're gonna own you not to mention every single pitch is let's start beef at the bop house i would be terrified just you're so good at articulating your words i would be so afraid to have beef and one thing oh my god he was reading about alabama to phil if i actually know it's so good that's where i found you you Just like one video I was like mesmerized Even now I'm watching you talk
Starting point is 00:40:27 I'm like wow Like it's awesome And you remind me so much Of me Before I had a lot of fear Insighted in me And trauma And even just on the phone
Starting point is 00:40:38 When we were talking I was like Never lose this This fire And this authenticity And this Cause But that's me I'm sure and i'm sure you
Starting point is 00:40:46 feel it right now though people are trying to take that from you the second that they see it they want to sue you they want to silence you with you they want to and i think that's kind of like it's that's like the low-key the fun part i'm like i'm like okay like if this is how you're taking this like and you're trying to like silence me like i'm gonna let people know you're trying to silence me i'm not gonna get a cease and desist and say you're not gonna cease or desist no i'm gonna say a hoe's gonna stop talking because a bitch got a cease and desist and that's that i'll never push it i will be honest i'll never push it because my i want honestly i'm glad i'm gonna say this i want everyone to know like i'm not this problematic human being just
Starting point is 00:41:22 fuck with me and i'll fuck back with you. Like, I'm not going to start, I'm not, I'll never attack anyone, ever. That's just not my, that's just not me. Well, that's just how the world is too.
Starting point is 00:41:30 They see an outspoken woman and they immediately want to put her in this, even like, Bad Baby dealt with that so much. And that's what I love about her. She's been the same since fucking ever.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Obviously, she's grown and she's matured and, you know, obviously, people grow and people mature.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But this like, she's so fucking authentically herself and she when she does something she fucking stands on it on her mistakes everything she's ever done she stood on it even if she's wrong she's like i did that and that's that and let's move on and that's something that i and the world will try to take that from you as a woman so hard. Yeah, I agree. I'm literally getting chills like thinking about it, so I'm putting this on. And that's one of the things I told you on the phone.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I was like, you are so resilient. You've been through so much. And that's so admirable because you know how many people wouldn't have continued? Do you know how many people would have given up? Do you know how many people would have just sat there and taken that and changed so many things about themselves that are so beautiful like i think a lot of the times people just run away to stand in the face of the fire and say this is who i am
Starting point is 00:42:34 and i'm willing to fall and get back up is it is admirable and it's hard so admirable and it's like so many people can't do that because they're not confident enough in themselves or they haven't found peace within, you know? So I think that that's the thing. It's like I fucked up, but I know who I am and I'm willing to just like put that all out there. Like, OK, here's me fucking up and it made me this. Exactly. I fucked up.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It also helped having nothing to lose. I will say, you know, like I'm all in with this. And I think that that's that's the difference, too, is like when people start and and they feel like they have to be perfect that's where you're going to fuck up the most like when you try to play this persona that you're not or authenticity when you try to play this role that you're not you're going to fuck up more because that's not what comes naturally to you and when your intentions i think a lot people, you have to like love this shit. You have to. And I can tell that you are so passionate about showing who you are and sharing it with
Starting point is 00:43:32 the world and hoping along the way that that inspires some people. Right. I think a lot of people start social media and all of these things with different intentions. And then when you face the fire, you're going to back down because your intentions were just money or your intentions were just this. You know what I mean? I say this a lot online, especially like I said,
Starting point is 00:43:50 in the 30 second to a minute TikTok video, it's an exaggerated version of myself, right? It's not all of you. It's not all of me. It's one piece of me that you see for 60 seconds and that's all you get. And then you make an opinion on that. And people love to hold on to that.
Starting point is 00:44:04 You know what I mean? Like I will forever be an idiot to so many people as hard as i try to show the smart sides of myself and like it can't i don't know you can't just harp on that it's like so what if people never fucking know who i fully am i'm still gonna try i'm still gonna try you know and you're not gonna do it for everyone else you're gonna do it for yourself and that's the difference do it for you not for any what the hell like i feel like i'm at church right now right like preach come on church so i i really do i have a lot of passion for it i have a lot of passion just for entertaining and i i can tell and i just love it i love people it's and i can just i just i'm serious i feel like
Starting point is 00:44:41 you're going to have like we're gonna look back at this podcast almost and be like oh my god like remember that like you're gonna have the craziest because you're not backing down
Starting point is 00:44:51 and the world just needs more women like that and it's just you're everything you are a powerhouse to me and you know what low key irritates me is that
Starting point is 00:44:58 is that fucking the second there's any like someone hands me my flowers like the second you say that right there's always that comment that's like why would you ever why would she ever be an icon if she doesn't immediately of course that is the first thing of course everyone says like why do these
Starting point is 00:45:16 girls idolize her why do these girls look up to her when like this is not someone to look up to which is and i've always struggled with this so hard too because it's like but it's like i at least for me i mean it's like they were gonna sexualize either way i think why can't it just be because i fucking wanted to do one yeah why is that such a hard fucking concept to understand i said hey i just want to pop it like and that's okay if that makes me feel good that makes me feel good about myself 100 and it's fun it's i again this is not everyone's scenario i'm not glamorizing it but you there is something fun about like reclaiming a power that you not necessarily are supposed to have societally right and feeling hot and being young and doing it with your girls like some of my favorite memories in
Starting point is 00:46:02 the world are like all me my friends having a wine night and then popping our pussies. Yeah. Like. And period. And you're going to like do it gracefully, amazingly and make a bag. Like what the fuck is that? Like for me, I just don't like again, like I just don't give a fuck. But I like that you're going multifaceted with it too and just doing all the things that you want to do.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I want to know like what's up your sleeve. You're just you're a bitch with something up your sleeve like what's coming what are you excited about so well um so as you know a bitch talk shit and period i will stay talking shit i will say i love it fucking tea but i kind of wanted to i want to veer into more something more positive and fun. Like something. And I like that too, that you're not like, oh my God, now that people think I'm a hater,
Starting point is 00:46:48 I just have to be the hater. No, hell no. Like I love. Because haters need love too. I don't think people think you're the hater though. I don't like, I don't see anything,
Starting point is 00:46:55 any of that and think like, oh my God, she's a hater. I feel like you're just like, you stick up for yourself. Right. But it's because you get it, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:02 Right. Like that whole fucking side of the internet that's just like, oh, it's a woman yelling. She's an evil, you know? And it's like, oh, it's like the Reels people. Reels, yes. It's scary.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Reels and TikTok. They're different planets. Holy shit. Like, I'll feel like a badass bitch. I'm like, going through my TikTok comments. I'm like, I served. And then Instagram's like, you fucking disgusting, whore, you piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You should be in the kitchen making a sandwich. I'm like, Reels humbled this shit out of us. Like, oh my God, the comments on canceled on reels is so brutal it's like these women could be saying like literally the most insightful thing of all time and the comments will always be like get her off of here like make podcast equipment more expensive six feet under i'm like i'm reading that i'm like i'm like noted nice i'm like double tap that one that one's good i'm like that one made me laugh. I'm like, I'm like noted. Nice. I'm like, double tap that one. That one's good. I'm like, that one made me laugh.
Starting point is 00:47:47 That one's a good one. That is it. If I had this insecurity, I'll change that about myself. Yeah, that's how I found out I had a big forehead. I was like, Jesus. Oh my God. I didn't even know. I posted a TikTok the other day and the very first comment, I'm talking this person got there in three seconds to say this shit, was what episode of Botched is this?
Starting point is 00:48:03 And I was like, you know what? Low key. I giggled. That's me. I's me i'm like i just like when they're creative like it me too like i do i love a funny hate comment like a good one where i'm like you know what touche like i'm gonna put that in the bank like low key i'll pin it yeah like that was funny low key i'll pin that one and i'll give a little haha in the comment yeah like you know because that's all they want it It's like a hug. Are you a Nicki fan? Like, that's like my favorite comment.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Of course. I'm like, are you a Nicki fan? You love me? Say that. I'm so stupid. I'm like, of course. I love Nicki Minaj. Hello?
Starting point is 00:48:35 I'm 40. Oh, my God. I have to kill myself. I missed it, too. No, I'm going to watch that back in the edit. Oh, my God. Wait, that's just like an old TikTok audio. No, and I'm going to actually.
Starting point is 00:48:42 That was so like Gen Z of me. I'm going to watch that back in the edit. Well, I'm a millennial. She's. That was so like Gen Z of me. I'm going to watch that back in the edit. I'm a millennial. She's a Gen Z. Am I? Yeah. I don't know anymore. I really am millennial.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I laughed at the most like Facebook mom meme the other day. I was in tears laughing and then I just sat silent in the car for 30. I was like, oh my God. I tell myself I'm doing it ironically.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Like I'm laughing at them, but I'm laughing with them. No, I was just laughing. It was like me when the flight attendant offers me a snack and like a dolphin and I was like haha this is so funny and I like actually was like no same because like I will cry laughing like I'm talking like hyper ventilate over like dogs and cats yes me too or AI animals like why is it doing that yes or like
Starting point is 00:49:22 the one with the microwave trend right now where like they put their dog. I'm crying. Wait, tell the trend. What happens? The microwave trend where they're like, they put a picture of the dog and AI spins it around. Stop playing with me. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:49:35 No, you're lying. I don't know what it is. No, you're lying. Don't do this to me. Wait, I got to see the microwave dog. We got to look it up. Hold on. Oh, Annalise got it.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I'm screaming. That's so fucking funny. Wait, how do I do that to Murph? You have to do that to Murph. No, wait. I feel like Mouse is just doing that right now. That's not justifying the trend. Mouse is already doing that.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah, Mouse is just at home right now doing that anyways. No, please. Stop. Why do I want that of me? Like, I want to be spinning around. Can you do it of me? Like, I'm screaming crime story up. Please. me like i want to be spinning around can you do it of me like i'm screaming crime showing up please i'm 95 years old just like that by the way no i'm 95 years old sitting on my couch fucking screaming like like i get it grabbing my julia being like no look no look no look
Starting point is 00:50:19 like i'm anyways no it's okay we're i'm embracing it listen if i laugh at a millennial joke it is what it is you know and that's okay it's okay but you were you were saying you wanted to do something more positive and we got so far off track okay okay but i love when we adhd and kiki too no i just didn't want her to forget so anyways i'm trying to be so positive and like i love giving gifts like i feel like that's one of my languages. It's like, please open it. I'm so excited. I think it's something with OF too because it's like,
Starting point is 00:50:48 I just robbed this man for this money, so how can I give back to other people? I'm the same. You guys are my parents. Don't accept me. Kidding. But I was like, okay, I'm going to do a giveaway
Starting point is 00:50:58 and I'm going to sell merch. So I'm in the works of like, I want to give away a car. So fun. I have two MacBooks, three iPhones. Make David Dobrik great again. so I'm like in the works of like I want to give away a car I'm gonna have like I have like two MacBooks three iPhones make David Dobrik great again right
Starting point is 00:51:10 great era yeah phenomenal like so great in theory and now we just need like a hot woman doing it you know what I mean in a bikini or something
Starting point is 00:51:17 yeah and with your Mr. Beast ties you could be the car bitch and that's kind of iconic yeah I see it now the red bows. You're in a red bikini.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Right. And I'm like, brand new car. I'm like, no. And like, we need, we need a woman doing that. So I thought it was me for a second. And then I just. Oh, she gave me a car. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:51:37 But you got a car. I gave her a car. What car? A Bronco. Bright green Bronco. It's my favorite thing in the world. And she bought Kyla a car yeah
Starting point is 00:51:45 and Ashley a car three cars three cars you get a car you get a car you get a car but she's over here like girls need to be
Starting point is 00:51:53 giving out cars and I'm sitting here like yeah well here's the thing with one of those cars it ended up like way later in life and like the car
Starting point is 00:52:01 I fully paid it off and like the whole thing and then she ended up getting hit or like car crash or whatever and it somehow ended up fucking up my credit while i'm buying a house it like actually fucked up my mortgage and my shit and it and then i was like i'm not the car girl anymore i was done but just in time for me to get one yeah you you you are the final car at least you got your you are the final car and now we're hey hey wait low-key bought my dad a car bought my mom a car low-key my mom's like you guys are slang i just can't get over you walking in here she says i'm
Starting point is 00:52:33 gonna do a small little giveaway i'm gonna give away a car i go small little giveaway but i love that that to you like it's like no listen what i want to do right like if i'm thinking like three years ahead like i if I if I have like if you ask like what's like a vision that you have that keeps you motivated right it would be I want to do like like a YouTube video or somehow integrate someone's personal story that I really resonated with and change their life like I want to buy someone a home and change someone's life like that is what would make me like that you're gonna do it so happy like a car yes i understand that that does change someone's life like to be able to
Starting point is 00:53:10 you know like get around and get around and get a job and i know that that helps a lot even if they have nowhere to live like at least you got you know like a car or something but i think with like i want to get so personal with it like mr Mr. Beast changes the world in masses, right? Like no one does what he does. And you don't see the personal story in between each person. He fixes a hundred people. You don't know these people's stories, like, which is incredible what he does. But like for me, I want to do like one person and like tell a story.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And you're such an interviewer. You want to know people's stories. Yeah, like I want to know their story their truth like I want them to feel like you're about to be
Starting point is 00:53:50 Mrs. Beauty and the Beast yes like wait can you write that down wait can I have 10% no I'm just kidding a business woman at heart and I also think
Starting point is 00:54:01 truly like a lot of people do that shit even when I was doing it like the views are nice you know yours was a little more like i wanted to do that but like kyla's i was like listen i'm dobrik i was living at his house like i fully and i think that we haven't had someone doing it who really wants to know the stories yet i do and i think that i'm also really big in music like i not in music like i don't do music but like I think music is the one thing that brings people together.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And so making people feel an emotion through a video is something that like is incredible. Like I want to be like you wake up and you know, the TikToks where you're like, oh, my God, not me waking up crying about a TikTok like that made you feel something like that's what I want to do. Like I want to make someone like watching. my life I live it it's like yeah I portray it to be glamorous and I portray this thing but like I see the other side of it like I see the people that don't get to live that and I know I'm part of the the one percent you know what I'm saying but like I do think about I am so aware and I do think about the people that I can help. And like, I think that's just a part of like who I've always been. I've always, which is also a blessing and a curse, put someone else before me.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah. Always. But I love that. Someone else's emotions, someone else's financial problems. Like I will always take them as my own because I'm like, I know I always got me. Yes. Forever and always. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I always have myself. But like seeing them thrive, like bro, that Forever and always, I know I always have myself. But like seeing them thrive, like bro, that's the one thing I love about the Bop house. We love watching everyone succeed. And that's hard too, to find other people like that. Like that's why a lot of those houses fail even. Yeah, I feel like in situations like that,
Starting point is 00:55:41 yeah, it can be easy to get like jealous of other people, like who's doing better. Obviously you put eight girls in a fucking house. There are issues issues and there are things but like at the end of the day we each have our own individual businesses and we want each of us to thrive yeah that's the god honest truth like and that's so important dude i'm so excited to like meet everyone you're going to i'm telling you like you're gonna love i can't wait to see everything you You need to come. I want to not attend. I'm so afraid of Miami. Like I scarred her too. And I told you how bad I was in Miami on the phone a little bit,
Starting point is 00:56:11 you know, and I, she almost ended our friendship. No, and you can talk shit. Go ahead. Go ahead. No,
Starting point is 00:56:17 it was just like, it was a bad time for everybody. Like it was, there was a lot of issues, like much bigger than us. Go ahead. She was with talk about it. she was with her ex at the time and I went with just them two.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Okay. So we stayed in a room like the three of us, two beds. Like I had one bed and they had the other. Horrible. Worst idea I've personally ever had.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And then just like the worst, like now if it was like me, you and McCutwell, like we would like put on a rom-com. No, that would have been so much fun. And for the first couple of days it was fine,
Starting point is 00:56:44 but like they had the biggest blowout fight I've probably ever like it was giving like my mom and dad i was so i couldn't even believe what was happening and i had a flight the next one it was like a whole thing and i was screaming at them they're screaming at each other like we're about to get kicked out of the hotel i missed my flight it was a whole thing i told myself in that moment i never was gonna go back i think your flight was in like six hours and she just left to the airport. Oh, that is what happened. It was like my flight was at like 7 a.m. And I was like, please let me go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Like we've been out for 24 hours straight. Like I will do anything to just go to sleep. I have a middle seat the next day. I'm like, and the flight home. Oh my God, to LA? Yes. And I'm like, please let me go to sleep. And I finally got so angry that I went to the airport Yes. And I'm like, six fucking hours? Please let me go to sleep. And I finally got so angry
Starting point is 00:57:25 that I went to the airport, sat there for six hours and then got on a middle seat all the way home for six hours. I hadn't slept in 24. We would have never spoken again. No, 100%. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:57:35 We don't talk about that like enough because even just with friends, I see it now and I'm not placing blame off of me because obviously like I did that, but I'm saying like how hard it is to be friends with someone in a fucking toxic relationship yeah because you just start that's so funny because me and julia everyone knows like our friendship is we're going on like
Starting point is 00:57:56 10 years like that is my soulmate like i stop i'll cry but i literally love her so much and like we've had she has the worst taste in men. Love you girl, but what the fuck? Oh, my sweet brookie here dealt for so long. I'm talking to you. Yeah, that's true. I guess we balance each other out with that for a while. And she's hated my exes and things like that.
Starting point is 00:58:18 But like it got to a point where like there was this one time we were in downtown and like i knew i hated this boyfriend of hers they would go back it's the back and forth shit that you fucking hate it's that you see her crying you see how much she's done to her next thing you know she's like oh wait but like i low-key love him and you're like yeah like he's just he's all the way like on the way to the airport with us all of a sudden you're like oh that's crazy like you didn't just say the most lethal diabolical shit six hours ago and i did that with him for a very very long time but he got to a point where like in that moment we were out or whatever and i saw him he said some slick shit to her and i just lunged at him i did i i did i took off my heel oh shit absolutely
Starting point is 00:58:58 lunged at him and i looked to her and i was like i swear to fucking like i swear to like i can't do this anymore and it did end our friendship for a year and a half and that's the thing to speak for a year and the only thing that brought me to because i i had to rekindle it because i'm like the love i have for her is unmatched when you're in a toxic relationship like it's impossible to see you walk around with a rain cloud yeah it's just not you like she wasn't herself like even me like when i was in toxic relationships like she understood she knew it wasn't me and it's almost like as as that friend you have to sit there and take it and take the emotions and almost hurt with her while she hurts until she's done yeah you do and like i i had such a hard time with that because i was so like i wasn't understanding to a lot of my friends like in horrible situations like that
Starting point is 00:59:42 because i had never gone through it myself exactly so once i had a situation like that i felt so much guilt because i was like oh my god i cannot believe how i handled this with you bb everybody because i was like i should have been there for them and so now i feel way differently about it but when you're in it you cannot see clearly no at all no like it's literally like you think it's the be all end all and you're heartbroken every other week like i say this i'm like those heartbreaks from those toxic relationships it's like it's not like oh you're sad like it you your body has a physical reaction it's like a drug withdrawal it's so traumatic it literally feels like like like chest pain you're dizzy you
Starting point is 01:00:21 can't sleep you can't eat like your body it's literally physical yeah even just what it's got to do to you psychologically to normalize like sobbing like that all the time like you know what i mean like just being so hysterical and yeah no it's it's really horrible but i wouldn't wish it upon my worst and it's so crazy because it's the same thing like a drug addiction it's like your friends can try to tell you all they want but until you decide to decide to get sober whether it's off this man or it's off this thing like you know what i mean like there's nothing you can do and it's so and then you just want to go back and shake yourself you know and then also like that causes trauma between the friendship obviously so i'm dealing with that right now with a friend of
Starting point is 01:01:04 mine but not like a best friend but like a close friend where i'm just like i have to let her cook yeah like and she she's gonna see that be there for her when she comes back yeah when i see her pursuing someone or like when she when i started you know dating and things like that we were kind of just like you know it's kind of like we're on the edge of our seat like okay how do we approach this like that's literally this man like i bet when you started dating makoa correct i don't want to mispronounce his name everyone's like what do you mean you're in love he's he seems fucking amazing he seems like like you're like the fire and he's the water and it just mellows that's how it comes across it's and i think that people like us we need that yeah we need that we like we need to be able to go on a fucking rant
Starting point is 01:01:41 and he's like no totally get you and then you his energy makes you kind of like be able to rationalize and be logical about it yes which is i would always date men that was like fire and fire and it's like fucking explosion we were just literally saying that before you got here but just like i needed i always thought i had to have a big big personality and i feel like that's not true i love to have somebody who's just like okay yeah i'll be like i hate when you do that like and i'm like yeah i'm like what the fuck are you fucking doing and they're like they're like no yeah totally see why you never happen and i feel like a dick yeah oh my god i have that all the time times i've cried because of the things i've done in a sense of like because no one really knows like i'm in a fully like relationship and like we have been for like two and a half years three years i didn't
Starting point is 01:02:22 know that yeah she's a marketing genius. She said, not today. Yeah, I mean, I love him. Like, I'll never deny my boyfriend ever. But it's just not something that I publicize just because. Good for you. That's my fucking man. What the fuck? You gotta be looking at my man for it, the fuck?
Starting point is 01:02:34 Anyways. But like, we'll get into arguments. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da, like in his fucking face. And he's like, yeah, no, like I see, I understand. His attitude completely changed. Like, I'm crying, not because of what he said, because of, no, like I see, understand his attitude completely. Like I'm crying, not because of what he said, because of I'm fucking nuts. No. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Fucking lunatic. I'm such a bitch. And I'm sitting in my head. I'm like, I'm like, he's going to I don't deserve him. Like he is going to leave. Girl, I cry. I did something in Paris to Makoa like that. I whenever I think about it, even to this day, I want to go back just to jump off the
Starting point is 01:03:04 tip of the Eiffel Tower. Like, it's, oh, my God. I can't. No, but he's so understanding. He is. And it's so far gone to him. But even if I, like, even when I just think about us in Paris, I'm like, oh, my God, I actually have to lay on the 405. Like, it's, and it's crazy, untraining, toxic girl.
Starting point is 01:03:21 You know? That part. I notice it every day. Even when, because we're kind of long distance so like when he leaves i'll notice myself like reverting to those anxious behaviors which lead to me lashing out and then it's like he's trying to start an argument and yeah a hundred yes and then it's like wait i'm not mad at you i just miss you like and i'm one thing that changed my like demeanor in the relationship is being embarrassed of my own
Starting point is 01:03:47 actions oh my god and i've never put that into words like that embarrassed of my own actions has changed me as a fucking human being like the way i would speak to people the way i would like i don't know like i'm not a i'm not not self-aware like I fucking know like he has looked at me dead in the face and he'll be like yeah when you're done yelling we can have a conversation he'll just walk away it's nothing it's nothing personal he's so powerful he's like when you're done um he'll say they're like you're like this you'll be I'm screaming at the top of my lungs he'll go yeah no when when you're done he's like I get it I understand you're upset when you're done we can have a conversation I'm gonna go eat my but why would that lay i'm so i'm so
Starting point is 01:04:27 no i'd be like what do you mean no you don't know yeah and i'll sit there and i'm like and i'm like twitching and i'm like all right and i'll and i'm still don't don't get me wrong i'm pissed off for like five hours after but i will and he doesn't treat me differently in those hours it's not like uh he's gonna ignore me it's like hey do you want food or hey do you want this that's literally mokoa are you hungry and i'm mad at what what am i mad at so then i come around and i come obviously crying and i'm like so like so you still love me or what no i'm like oh no cool so like you still like do you still want you still love me right then for three days, it's that. For three days, it's literally that. Yeah, do you still love me?
Starting point is 01:05:06 No, for sure. It's toxic relationships. Fuck you up. So bad. Fuck you up. But it is. I think we talk about this a lot now, too. For so long, I was in such denial of the cool-down period, right?
Starting point is 01:05:18 Even Amari gets on me about this. Think of Amari and I are fighting. It's like, I want to hash it now. And as I've gotten older, I have realized realized the cool down period will save your life I'm still bad at it me too with friends me too I'm just so bad at it we have different we have different feelings on that like I think you're like solve it in this moment that's how I am and I'm having to understand more and more yeah I'm not gonna lie I'm still bad at it. Like Julia, this is so crazy because this seems like the dynamic of me and Julia. Like she's very like bubbly and just like a just she's so cute and she's not confrontational
Starting point is 01:05:55 and she's very like calm. She's very calm and like you're like me. You're like, well, fuck that bitch. Fuck this bitch. You're misunderstanding the dynamic. Really? We're both. Oh my God. It seems misunderstanding the dynamic. Really? We're both fucking. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:06:06 It seems like you're so like, relaxed. No, I'm, I, it's not true. Yeah, no, I'm very reactive.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Well, I just get, I'm super hyper emotional and I get very, very like upset over things, like probably irrationally. And so, that is an issue that I have
Starting point is 01:06:22 with pretty much everyone. Yeah, but we've worked it out a lot. I think you've grown a lot in that sense. You're much better at not saying things you don't mean now. Yeah, and we're more aware of it now. Now I know that there's a bigger root of the issue. Hello.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Oh my God. Is that the queen? Hi, my queen. I just watched the cutest video of them. It was you, right? We were talking about you. Where you came home with the Birkin Right was this you
Starting point is 01:06:48 No that was Sophie Sophie came home Bophouse queen She comes home with the Birkin and she's showing her And she's going what is this She's like I don't understand why you'd spend 30 grand No and it was just the cutest video Absolutely ever
Starting point is 01:07:02 It was the cutest like sweetest That video was everything but yeah like if we were to fight like it's very like i'm like no we're solving this now and she's like i just don't get why you're yelling i'm like what do you mean i just it's really hard like once i feel a certain way for me to like unfeel it yeah it's really hard and i feel like i don't know the very common misconception is that i'm i'm calm and really yeah and like i hate to even admit that but it's it's true i'm very i just get so upset petty i'm not i'm not so much petty as i am just like i everything is the sky is falling and everything is my emotions are so much bigger than okay they actually are always like i like something so like minuscule can turn into
Starting point is 01:07:45 like like i can't believe they would do this to me yeah really big summer blowout yeah but it's just a way like everything is perceived to me it's like oh my god like everyone hates me the world is against me like i don't know why and we had to work on that a lot too where you know what i mean like i had to in those moments it'd be like I love you you know what I mean like I and I know your brain is telling you that I don't we're just so different in the way that we handle conflict and that's been like that has been the conflict oh my god for just for so long let's the fuck hash it out like I'm a let's hash it out because I hate that feeling of having to wait to have that conversation because for me the cool down period is like i still feel it like it's like even if i'm not it's just like yeah when we start talking
Starting point is 01:08:32 about it i'm going to still want to like blow up and i don't know how to articulate it i mean obviously i've gotten better and not i'm not going to scream but like i'm very i'll say it very passionately and i think that that can cause people to shut down I just have to be careful about that because if I hash it out in the moment I'm going to say so many things I don't mean it's going to be way bigger than it should be because of how emotional I am about it so it's like I need the refractory period just to be just to like come to my senses and like see it for what it was rather than what i thought it was making it out to be yeah yeah and i even you taught me so much about because i am give her a second i am innately
Starting point is 01:09:12 very much like let's talk it out right now like i guess when i say the cool down period helped me that's for me when i'm hot and angry but even with our relationship like we had to learn i had to really learn like no we're gonna revisit this in a day. And we're going to say, because by then I will always probably come and be like, I'm so sorry. I don't, I, I said this because I felt this and I was,
Starting point is 01:09:32 you know, a lot of people way out of my mind. A lot of people cannot say, no, but I don't always do it. A lot of people, but I think when they're wrong, I'm getting better.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I really do. You know, self growth. Yeah, it's amazing. I love that. It really is that's so cute
Starting point is 01:09:45 I can't wait to go to 11 with you you should come honestly I would come listen I'm gonna be very honest I have lived in Miami going on three years now I don't go out
Starting point is 01:09:56 I have not been to the beach I am I'm telling you like the only reason my ass is at live is cause of Julia's fucking ass and she's like
Starting point is 01:10:04 no we need a girls night we need a girls night takes me to fucking live i spent 10 grand so i'm like i hate going out i don't like the culture of going out miami is the most expensive promoters suck the miami's the most expensive that's what i do but i love i love the daytime of it all i love to be on a boat i love to be at the beach now that i'm sober i almost need a miami tour guide that will show me the light right like i need you to show me the things in miami that won't make me slit like yes please i'll keep you on not off edge i'll give you on edge yeah we're gonna move into like a more wholesome miami yeah and i would love that i need to rewrite it yachts are fun they're they're contained you could get a little fucked up it's like you get fucked up
Starting point is 01:10:45 but it's gorgeous it's like 3pm you nap until 7 that I can do and then you get ready after with like a sun-kissed tan you go to dinner
Starting point is 01:10:52 and you get a little more fucked up at dinner that's me I don't do see then I'd be doing fuck off the table it's like that's where we
Starting point is 01:10:59 don't align yes and that's good that's why I'm sober but then I'm I'm a hazer so I'll be getting her drug yeah never do it have done or any hard drugs who hasn't smoked a little weed i'm a paranoid
Starting point is 01:11:12 fucking bitch i cannot smoke for the life of me but no listen i'm an anxious one too i feel like i'm like i wish i could be the cool bitch with the blunt with like some long fingernails that looks but me no i think the cops are coming i think everyone hates me and i think i'm having a i'm going under cardiac arrest and somebody's taking me to hospital immediately immediately i wish i could be the bitch that smokes pot sit on the couch have a glass of wine i think strains kind of matter too because like i don't like the trial and error of it all it's like it's like birth control it's like, I don't like the trial and error of it all. It's like birth control. It's like you mean three months I have to do it. It's like, I don't want to be high, like a bad high for long enough to find out what works and what doesn't. Like I'd rather just not.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Yeah, I just don't. I'll get a little white girl wasted here and there. Yep. But anyone in my life will tell you I just don't drink. And that's great. And I don't know if it's because i'm like honestly on i genuinely think it's because i'm like i could be spending my time doing something productive yes and that's just me way too long to realize that's just me like why the fuck would i go out with people who
Starting point is 01:12:14 one half the time the people that we go like like the random girls you meet when you're out don't give a fuck about you like they don't actually benefit you in any type of way when i could just go home like pop my puss and make some money like you get I'm saying like why wouldn't I just do that? Yes, ma'am. I think it took me so long to realize that that like the going out scene is just so regressive and the promoters. It can be fun every once in a while. There's a reason to celebrate. Why not?
Starting point is 01:12:38 Right. But I feel like there's a way to do it. And I just feel like it's Groundhog's Day. Like literally every single night the exact same thing happens and the same people are there and you're like oh my god and you're not gonna find love and you're not gonna make a best friend
Starting point is 01:12:50 you're not gonna you hear that Julia you're not gonna find love thank you but it's so hard because I was Julia for so long she's like no but I need to go to Sway
Starting point is 01:12:58 and find this man I'm like you're not finding your husband at Sway go to Barnes and Noble yeah right put a fucking tight skirt on. Go to an accounting firm and say you need some shit.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Drop a pencil. Drop a pencil, bend over, show your thong, and you'll fucking find a hot man. Do something different. Show up at the Ritz Carlton, have a fucking drinking, hike up your skirt a little, and fucking talk to a rich man. Who just said that? Go where the rich men hang out and look lost. That's what you do.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Sway? Live? Live?'s no but it's so wild because i truly i was so damn convinced that i was gonna find my husband in that club babe you're gonna find a 40 year old man with erectile dysfunction and a problem and arguably he likes minors with a wife in the club yeah and five and yeah and it's just oh my god it's so wild and it's so easy to i think like being a party girl you know what i mean like at first it's so fun like we know that and so many people just get addicted to that then like i was so addicted to the scene and the thing is though like growing up in north carolina i genuinely believed has saved me from a lot of bullshit because I okay I also worked at a bar the second I was able to right so I've seen that I've been able to party and make money at the same
Starting point is 01:14:08 time so I'm like oh this is great and like you probably saw the regular alcoholics too and like y'all you specifically were in a position you were young making money and going out like and from Vegas bro doomed from the jump bro how do you not yeah yeah i think my card for me it was easy not to because it's north carolina there's no there's like bars and it's fun and it's like kiki it's more like classy yeah there's no like clubs there i the first time i've ever heard the genre of edm was in florida never in my life i've ever heard of john summit of any of these people until i got to a big city and I'm like this shit will fuck you up if you start at the age of 15
Starting point is 01:14:47 16 with a fake ID how do you not like genuinely like how do you not get addicted how do you not start drugs how do you not get with people who are trying to pimp you out how do you not 100% oh and I did I saw a photo of my fake ID the other day I was going through my camera roll and it was just I had red fishnets on and it was a
Starting point is 01:15:04 photo of my fake ID and it was just so brutal i was like oh my god right it was a powerful time you know it all had to happen for me to learn but i always just want to shape you i want to tell the girlies out there you know that just like if you're lost in that club party scene like out man yeah and if you haven't gotten there yet skip it don't do it yeah it's so easy not to do it it's just you just not going even just like the way like you saying that you've never done in a room full of people in LA there I can almost I would bet my foot that you could go in a lot of rooms in LA and say that and everyone's like oh my god what like that's so lame like just try it and it's like why wait so
Starting point is 01:15:42 like why try it yeah no but I'm the bitch to say so why that's what i'm saying like and it's you're eating with that and i wish someone had told me that like it's cool not to do drugs you're like if you get out of it you're gonna look back and be like damn and honestly this all boils down to not knowing you because it's like i don't want to be the odd one out i don't want to be the one not off that scares me like you know what i mean like like i want to be a part of it like i don't want to be the one not off. That scares me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I want to be a part of it. Like, I don't want to feel left out. That's how it starts. That's how I think a lot of people do it.
Starting point is 01:16:07 And then it's like, I want to be numb. And then it's like, I, you know what I mean? And then it's like, you like it. The problem is like these people. That's the issue is liking it. That's what I don't understand about like, just try it. It's like, for what? For me to find out I love it and now I'm doing heroin?
Starting point is 01:16:18 Me. Like, not the heroin, but me. Especially if you like, especially if you know, like person by person, like if you have family members who are addicted to it. If you have an addictive personality. And I had all of that. Me, bro, I vaped forever. Did you quit?
Starting point is 01:16:32 How did you quit? I just stopped. See? A sign. See? I literally don't know how. I just stopped. The spirit said,
Starting point is 01:16:43 Oh my God, the ghost. Wait, honestly, that might be my favor. Yeah, like hello? I just, I don't know how I just stopped. The spirit said, I know the ghost. Wait, honestly, they might be in my favor. Yeah. Like, I just, I don't know how to like,
Starting point is 01:16:48 for me it was not. Yes, it was difficult. When is it the most difficult when you had a couple of drinks and you're like, I want to fucking rip a goddamn thing right now. Like that's like everything I would ever want in that moment. But like on the day to day, like you just stop buying it.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I've been able to stop most things. I don't know what it is. It's crazy. Like benzos and alcohol are arguably harder. Like whatever, you know, but like on the day-to-day like you just stop buying it i've been able to stop most things i don't know what it is it's crazy like benzos and alcohol are arguably harder like whatever you know and it's like i i genuinely think it's the hand the oral fixation it's this it's this movement i don't think you and the smoke shop like the accessibility the legality the you know like i could just walk in there and lose drive like can even drive. Like how accessible is it to you? You're so right. You can't drive. At all.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Like you're just a bad driver? No, I do not know how. Wait, what do you mean? Wait. Yep. Hold on. Raised by. Should I have a driver's license?
Starting point is 01:17:35 Raised by. What the fuck do you mean you don't? She's bought three cars, zero license. Wait. Can you? Wait. Wait. How old are you?
Starting point is 01:17:43 Let me give you the smack back, okay? Raised by monkeys. Drop out, move out, LA by like 16. One of my very first sponsorships was Uber. I actually don't talk about this a lot, but back in the day, Uber used to just give me free rides to talk about them, which is wild. They would literally never now.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I would do anything. They would never now, ever. But they were a startup and I was i was a driver's license list bitch and then substance abuse so then it was like i could never be behind the wheel and then it just like i just kept getting older and it still scares me personally with my adhd and the way i've been a passenger princess for so long okay then i'm like okay i don't want to be a danger to everyone in my car and outside of my car yeah it's like it's once you know how it's like i will say though probably learning to drive in la is the worst thing you could do yeah but what do you ever plan to have kids what about soccer practice i don't know i'm just thinking in the future like
Starting point is 01:18:41 what about like mom can you take me to my friend's house oh daddy's gonna take you or nanny maybe i don't know maybe that's okay but you're gonna learn she's gonna learn no that's 2025 for sure i like should but i've also tried a lot and it's one of those things where it's like it's like learning chinese to me because i never wait that's such a good video it's hard for everybody when you come to miami oh i did a whole moment i did i did that whole series obviously david dobrik and jake paul weren't gonna teach you how to drive tana but like learn in vegas or i would do somewhere there's where there's a grid system because it's like that's just the easiest way to learn and like yeah learning here is that's the other thing in the beginning it's like anything there's so many
Starting point is 01:19:16 things to think about so it is like anxious and overwhelming but like once you know you're not thinking about driving when you're driving why did i not know you didn't have a driver's license yeah it's crazy good pussy though no i'm just kidding no that's all that really matters you can ride but like yeah no but yeah that's the thing i can't drive but i can ride exactly no but um i would but then i also you know i hate authority i would be like but i can text and drive i mean people in new york can never drive a car in their lives, but like we don't live in New York. I will. I'll dabble.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Maybe the necessity to drive isn't that big here. Especially with, I'm like Waymo exists now. What's going to exist when you have kids? That's true. You're going to have a self-driving car. They're going to be droning them to school. Wait, could you have your own self-driving car? Like if Waymo can do it, like.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Oh, you mean like really self-driving like really like like that's definitely the future you know wait can i just buy a waymo yeah that's what i'm asking i guess waymo just sit in it please or like have it parked in your garage and you're like oh my kid needs to go to soccer practice like this car is gonna take him i i'd be scared i'd rather yeah i'd be scared and all the waymo malfunctions like the story oh yeah do you remember yeah we're like it was during the la fires one of our friends could you like i'm imagining this like i'd be fucking pissed if my life was taken away through a fucking self-driving car wasn't even in my goddamn control and i lost some final destination i'd be pissed
Starting point is 01:20:41 what a lame way to go out that. That's so what happened to me. Could you imagine like WRAL News just covers like, oh, we have here on the scene Camilla dead by Waymo. Like I would delete it. Just die on a lime scooter. That's how I feel about it. I'm like, all my friends would have to lie. I'm like, I'm so afraid of dying in an embarrassing way.
Starting point is 01:21:00 You are afraid of dying in an embarrassing way. Me. Because it's like, it can't be that like say anything but that like she got hit on a line well call your attorney put it in your will i'm going to well i'm on record right now you will not know if i die from of mysterious causes turn the other cheek yep yep it was a lime scooter but we won't know anything yeah wow okay so do you have a list of questions i don't want you to feel like you don't know something. You know what it is?
Starting point is 01:21:26 Is I have this whole list of like interview questions for you. And then you sat down and you started talking and it's like, I don't know, at least I hate this. I'm sure you do too. Like when you go on a fucking podcast and then it's like, I sit down and they're like, so what was it like being with Jake Paul? Tell us about TanaCon. Do this, do that.
Starting point is 01:21:42 And they just hit the like. The mainstream shit. The bullet points of the mainstream shit and it's like you're leaving feeling like exposed like what did they just do to me or just the repetitive same shit like if she were to go on any podcast right now they're gonna ask her to hit those notes of alabama and this and that and then i was like wait this girl is more than that like i just want to kiki and right and i think i mean it's important to hit those things to so i can tell i feel like when i'm interviewing i don't say much about me i let that person tell their story it's almost like their moment i'm just the one asking the questions i think for me the hardest thing about doing these
Starting point is 01:22:13 interview podcasts and things like that is when that person doesn't feed off of my energy and when they can't make a conversation flow it really puts me in a weird position. Like if anybody watched the Santos podcast, I feel like I was digging, man. Like I sat there for a fucking hour, like just needing more. Like I'm like, come on. I haven't seen that yet.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Wait. No, I start just making things up. I struggle with that so much. I just did like a club appearance situation in Chicago and the promoter like I mean his whole job is to like you know take you out like make you have fun and stuff and like we I had to go to the club I hate going to the club so I was like whatever and I was really like I was like gonna do it I was so excited I was like I'm gonna do dinner and everything like old times yeah he
Starting point is 01:22:59 picked up me and BB BB is my best friend silent literally we had to sit at dinner for with him like for like three hours I want to say and he did not say a word the entire time so me and bb bb is my best friend silent literally we had to sit at dinner with him like for like three hours i want to say and he did not say a word the entire time so me and bb were just making things up like like trying so hard it's hard to pull me out of your fucking ass yeah it was impossible we ended up grabbing two girls in the bathroom and saying like can you please pretend that we like went to college together and come sit down with us and oh see that's iconic yeah we did it was like it was so funny we got to the table i'm like she was in my sorority he's like what sorority she's like capital he wouldn't have fucking known he could have made a fucking word right but like it was impossible no one was interviewing that is just like or when you think it's gonna go one way so
Starting point is 01:23:37 hard and then it goes doesn't and it didn't like i wanted to like first of all what are your main questions i don't know enough i asked him about the astrovino stuff and um because that it was a segue right like i did astrovino it did well i asked very direct questions and ash just fucking talks which is great yeah for her me just just the entertainment yeah no keep going with santos he showed up okay this is like bts i haven't actually talked about this just because i didn't want to give i didn't want to post another video about him because in my mind i'm like bro fuck it doesn't it didn't fucking matter whatever he shows up right fried i mean absolutely out of his fucking mind couldn't form mumbling from weed you think or you think like further weed but here's the tea
Starting point is 01:24:32 he's he's like he comes in he's like yo i'm sorry like i'm just so fucking fried like and i'm looking at him like okay here's the difference if you smoke every day you know how to act it's not a an occasion for you like and also i flew you out i put you in a hotel and for you to show up fucking that pissed me off. I'm not going to make it a big deal because I have something to fucking do, right? Whatever, he's fried. I'm like, okay, hopefully this is like a everyday thing for him and we can get something done. I can get the things I want answered and we can move on. Call it a fucking day.
Starting point is 01:24:56 He sits down. He's the whole time I'm trying to get, remember the TikTok I did with him? Whatever. He's the entire time being like i have cotton mouth i'm so fried and i could tell it was like clicked in my head i'm like that's how i act when i've ever smoked therefore i know he's not a smoker he's tweaking and he's something's up so i when you're so high you just have to keep saying i'm so high yes he hit that like 90 times he's like can i have water can i have this can i have this can i have this. He's like, can I have water? Can I have this? Can I have this? Can I have this? And he's like, he ordered food there.
Starting point is 01:25:25 He brought this guy, right? I'm probably so nervous too. And like as a guy, men are never going to say, hey, I'm so nervous. No, he was, he's sweating bullets. Bro, you could see the fucking sweat on it. Like I could just tell. I'm already a little angry. I'm like, you showed up fried, whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:41 He orders Uber Eats. He sits down. In the middle of the fucking thing he's like yo uh can you let my boy up i'm like what and i don't mind you bringing anyone that's not that's not my issue it's like yeah i want you to feel comfortable enough to be able to speak and kind of like thing after thing like we've had that you know where you have someone on and it's like okay i've gotten you the drink you've gotten up to pee three times you've gotten distracted off camera you've taken the phone call and it's like hello that's completely disrespectful in my opinion i'm so sorry like i would i would
Starting point is 01:26:09 actually say something but i was like podcast etiquette isn't spoken about enough yeah not that i'm putting the gavel down okay feed out always let me stop actually i retract that and i'm sorry on the couch yeah oh yeah me me being like pussy out the whole fucking time no no you have you have it he sits down he's he's like you know my can i have my boy up here i'm like i'm like who is he because i need to know for my own safety like who the fuck are you bringing in here like you know i feel like we should talk about this before and you don't know what the trevino's it's his boy that gave him the weed and it's just like his he said it was for security purposes he invited the plug yes
Starting point is 01:26:43 i he invited the plug i don't know if he's armed i don't know nothing and so what does he need security for yeah who the fuck is stop so fucking real security being like the new thing is so funny i think that's just what he said because he's so fried out of his mind security like he needed to make something up for me to not question him so i'm like whatever i'm not even gonna i'm not gonna press you on this matter right now because you're so fucking out of your mind right so he's just you know you know just being a just being weird this boy comes in it's very nice i will say nothing wrong he's very kind he sat there the whole time actually said nothing i tried you know i try to talk to the people that come in the room because i don't want you to feel like i'm not addressing you like i will always
Starting point is 01:27:22 address the person that comes i'm like hi how are you nice to meet you yeah you know whatever he smelled like straight weed you know i don't know if he's armed that's the whole thing so anyways we'll take security precautions next time yeah anyway we're sitting in this podcast i don't know if we left it in or not he got up to pee like five times okay like he's the beginning of the astrovino lure right so she talked about him on my last podcast so my natural reaction was i'm going to put him on there and have him kind of segue the story i have someone that writes flash cards for me and i will go back and forth on you know questions and things like that so i have like a deck of flash cards and i'm like all right question after question after question because i'm being very direct like what were you like trying to get out of him like what was what was
Starting point is 01:28:00 like i want what would the dream have the dream would have been you need to tell me the exact story of how you somehow ended up getting Astrovino. Where the hell did she come from? How'd they meet? Exactly. We don't know. His live or something. He just went live with people
Starting point is 01:28:12 and said that that's how they met. Like it was very one worded responses. It didn't flow. It was very like, and I feel like I have direct questions, but I, and this is something that I harp on. I will never sit there and attack you.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Like even with Asher Vito. Yeah. I could have sat there and be like, you fucking crazy ass bitch. Like you'll get nothing out of the person if you sit there and attack them. So you have to almost be light and like address it very specifically. You have to address it very specifically and make that person feel comfortable enough to tell their story. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Cause that's the end of the, that's the end goal, right? Is to that person to be able to tell their story right because that's the end of the that's the end goal right is to that person to be able to tell their side of the story what was his goal even of like clout right bro like what do you think like he just wanted her for clout i don't i have not me or ashavino like why no him wanting why he ever got involved with her i think it was they kind of mutually benefited each other right like they came out with this song they started doing live they she he he kind of exploited the fact that she was, in my opinion, yeah, like they made a song together.
Starting point is 01:29:09 You want to know how it smelled? Ask Santos. You know it smelled well. They made a song together and went fucking crazy. Like there's lore behind this Astrovino thing with Santos and that was my goal. Well, duh, you had to. It was the sequel.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Right. So when he's sitting there, he gets up in the middle of the segment and he's like i'm gonna go to the bathroom i'm like all right you've got up like five times what am i gonna say no right so he goes he comes back and like things get weirder like he's he seems more like neurotic like he's like he's like can i get water and like he's like can i get water you think it's yes plug think it's like the plug and it's all. So not you having like,
Starting point is 01:29:49 that's so insane. No, like he's just being more like, I need, I need water. I need, I need this. Like,
Starting point is 01:29:53 like, or can we, he asked me in the middle pockets, can we redo this tomorrow? Like, can we do it again? I'm like, no,
Starting point is 01:29:59 like this, my time. You're just trying to get the Astrovino sequel. And then this man like flying him out and he's just showing up. I was so disappointed. I don't think that's ever even happened to us. I was so... That's having someone f***ed out on the pod. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:30:10 So this is why I didn't say anything because this is all alleged. I cannot prove that he did c***. No, it's just your experience. But at the end when he left, it was really awkward. He ended up leaving. He was fine.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And he texted me. He was like, I'm sorry. I have the text message. He was like, I'm sorry. I was fried. Right. I'm like, it's fine. You did fine. Fried is one thing, but I'm like, it's fine. You did.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Fried is one thing. But like fucking Wolf of Wall Street is another. I'm like talking to my team in my like because they were there. They go in the bathroom. They're like, look, I took this video as evidence just in case he ever tried to, you know, pin anything against you. But like there's like these little tissues with like blood in the. Oh, yeah. Enough said.
Starting point is 01:30:41 In the in the trash can. We don't. I have no. I have no ground to stand on to say he was doing... But what can I assume? Yeah. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:51 Podcasting on... Also sounds like the biggest nightmare. Imagine watching that back the next day. No. I would be like sitting here... No, so goodness. I love that. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:59 I like that Thanksgiving. So... Give thanks. So, he went on live the next day and said you know camilla i feel like she was asking me such direct questions and like with her big blue eyes and she goes man i just wish verbatim i have the clip safe he goes i just wish someone would have let me do it sober would have let you you should have let you do it sober the way i wish i could move my eyebrow right now to be like the fuck like i'm trying this is you mean i wish someone let me we should have a little remote where sometimes we
Starting point is 01:31:34 could just literally just like huh yeah i yeah yeah i what that's brutal well at least this is the closing of that for you like it's not like now you have to go interview a fucking third cousin like you're so done like i'm like and you've done bitch whatever you did what you needed to do and now i think all it is really is just that she should go to jail and then it's like did you see the new advancement what which you know what i'm talking about with like muhammad her talking about muhammad ali no it's like i guess the guy that she is dating in prison killed a man okay and it was somebody's father and the daughter of that person if i'm not mistaken this is all what i have gathered from clips, comes onto her live and she goes like, he deserved it.
Starting point is 01:32:30 He deserved what happened to him. Like, and yeah, she did say that. She's like, he deserved what happened to him. And then she goes on to say, like, his name is Mohammed. How do you know he's not the Mohammed that did 9-11? Yep. Verbatim. And laughs about it.
Starting point is 01:32:44 I'm so tired. Like, I'm'm like let me sleep tired like i am so tired it was just so crazy and her just saying like he deserved to die he deserved to die you don't respect me he deserved to die she's it's so insane she's disgusting like really disgusting no and i and i genuinely like i have said this like there's no, I don't believe in a world where she's not, she does not have a mental illness. No, of course there's seven. There has to be a diagnosis for someone like that. There's narcissistic personality disorder. Arrested development.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Maybe like a bipolar mania situation. Let me stop. I think manic. i think she's manic like i'm being for real yeah i don't know if you noticed did the podcast with her love the bop house they're great podcast didn't go the way she think it she thought it was gonna go boom textbook narcissist too and it's just like at least you're done like i'm done no i think you showed the people what you're fucking made of with that and now thank god it's over beat it in too much like it's like okay we get it she sucks she's
Starting point is 01:33:49 gonna continue to suck she'll forever suck next you continue to suck and forever sucking i didn't even ask you this once and i just want to know what is your take right now on today's date of the whole bad baby alabama situation where do you stand with all of it? I'm going to be very honest. Like, I think, I admire Danielle a lot, or bad baby a lot, for being,
Starting point is 01:34:13 she's so who she is. And I think that, you know, she stood on that. And I think Alabama is young. I think she has a lot of growing to do, like naturally, right?
Starting point is 01:34:21 Like, I feel like, to be very honest, I feel like I've heard the same story about her a hundred times and i don't think that that's like you we shouldn't stamp her and be like she's gonna be fucking terrible forever because we all fucking have sucked at one point we've all made dumb ass decisions and i feel like right now is just i think honestly she kind of just needs this moment like that's just my genuine opinion like i have no hate for her alabama none i have no hate for her alabama none i have
Starting point is 01:34:46 no hate for her at all i think that there's a lot of learning to do and no one's going to grow if they continue to keep beating each other in the fucking ground granted bad baby's about her fucking shit okay like you want to say in your diss track you want to catch her out the fuck side i would be so inside if i were alabama right like please please catch each other outside then like she called you out you called her out on a fucking yeah that to me though like like i you fight yeah you fight like for sure like even if you lose alabama really wants to say she's about her shit at this point let's get the calabasas commons you know let's shut the air one down and let's hold the fight there you know like honestly like if y'all trying to if you're
Starting point is 01:35:28 trying to make a bag like host a fight oh my god imagine they like boxed each other yeah like host a fight and it's so funny because for some reason i just feel like alabama would think she's above that and if anything it's like well she always says i'm chris would never let that happen i think a quote directly from alabama was i'm was, I'm too above that. I don't fight. And then I think she was in the studio and she was like, what'd she say? She was like, I'm gonna call you bitches Lucy Lou
Starting point is 01:35:51 or something. I don't understand what direction she's trying to go in. Me either. I think she might be using this to boost her music career. Yeah. But if you can't stand on business, you can't work in that
Starting point is 01:36:05 career and going up against bad baby god i do i wish i could possess that confidence but it's like just where do you get off like i i don't know i don't know where this ends i i don't know like in my mind i'm like okay this, this is great. This is fun. Watching from the sidelines, I kind of obviously backed out of it because I think, honestly, I just inserted myself for shits and gigs. Me. I'm like, I really think you guys should duke this out and just call it a fucking day. Me on a Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:36:37 When Bad Baby went and fought Malou or she went and fought Vicky, they fight, it's done. Yeah. Whoever wins, wins, or loses, whatever. Take it to the chest and fucking move on but i think that like like you said like i think alabama just too little she's above that she she believes she's yeah that so i really like honestly it's like i i hope because i i see her now in a general post a sad post or something or obviously talk about all of
Starting point is 01:37:00 her hate and stuff and it's like you did lose right and like yes you could keep fighting it but i think if anything the most admirable thing in the world would be just to come online and issue your apologies and like show growth in that sense or just be like you're right you got me yeah exactly that's what i'm saying song kind of ate like if she came out and said that song kind of because when she she wrote that first song first of all like well when someone else wrote that first song sure yeah whatever it was good song great song it's it's catchy both of the songs are catchy obviously bad baby is bad baby right like she'll always be i'm so sorry she'll always be on top like and that's that but like bro her dissing me at the end being like and camilla bitch
Starting point is 01:37:43 shut the fuck up. Bad bitch, or Alabama said this? Oh, don't play. And it's always the bitch with the hot pink octo, buddy. You don't want to fuck with her. And that's that. Hold on. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:37:57 And she pulled it up so fast. I'm in love with you. Guys, stop everything you're doing and take a listen right now. Ready? I bet you didn't know that. Bitch, you better be. You being that. You cannot do the do-er, she's saying to me camilla bitch shut the fuck up and i'm gonna be very honest what an honor and and i'm honestly i feel like this is mama i made
Starting point is 01:38:27 it moment because it's like thank you that's playing in chris jenner's room right now that's exactly what the fuck i said i said now it's confirmed that the like the kardashians have at least they will hear my name and they will wonder who the hell the fuck that is because i am not in christian's world i am not in 2020 and so it's like fuck yeah you know i'm saying like this is great that was a great banger for me to exit and no yes yeah so that's really my opinion on it like i really did it i made it i i like you get me like snaps for me because respectfully this all worked out in my favor i 100 agree i think it's a perfect time to exit i do i really hope that they both figure it out this far as like what they want to figure out yes don't necessarily know where
Starting point is 01:39:18 she's taking this direction but it's so funny bad baby said you cannot do or alabama why am i confusing them sorry it's so funny she was right alabama the doer is bad baby exactly and like i think bad baby ate i hope this ends up being a sick ass growing moment for alabama and she uses all of this fame to then become something that feels authentic and 100 and i'm gonna be very honest i think that with the tools she has and i've said. I think that with the tools she has, and I've said this off camera, like with the tools she has and the people around her, she could be something so incredible. Oh, I couldn't agree more. That's why it's so infuriating. Yeah, I agree. Like, stop. I agree. She has the tools to be something incredible. I mean, just absolutely building
Starting point is 01:39:58 generational wealth for herself. And I think it'll hit her. Like, it hits everyone. You know, when you release something, you're like, oh, fuck. Like, why did I do that? Like, it'll hit her at some point. And I think it'll be such a it hits everyone you know when you release something you're like oh fuck like why did I do that like it'll hit her at some point and I think it'll be such a honestly beautiful story in the end I agree and I think
Starting point is 01:40:10 Bad Baby is also gonna flourish and just continue to prevail she's that bitch 100% it's because it's authentic it's all authentic
Starting point is 01:40:17 and I'm loving Bad Baby's like mom era like it is everything I've ever could've wanted like she the way she like talks about her daughter and like the love that she has like just watching you know that girl that sat on dr phil
Starting point is 01:40:30 and was like catch me outside be a mom to a daughter and just like i'm sure she's so passionate like yes we see we see the crazy bad baby with the fire under her ass but also like we've also seen danielle brigoli deal with a lot with her mother not being the best. And I'm sure she's got a fire under her ass to be different than that. And that's sick. And has the money. She really is. And we'll probably just like with how much she wasn't accepted in so many ways, we'll probably be the most accepting mother ever.
Starting point is 01:40:58 That's how it goes. 100%. I think she'll thrive. She will thrive in being a mom And like raising a teenager And raising you know Like a mini her You know and she'll be able to undo All the wrongs that she felt she's been wronged
Starting point is 01:41:14 You know what I'm saying And that's like all you can ever ask for in those situations We talk about that all the time but it's like the biggest goal And I just can't It's so great that you have all of these like amazing mature takes How old are you? 22 No way Oh my god I do anything like to be this put together and just know you're I think it's just like for me I've always been such a logical thinker like I'm very I think yes I'm emotional and yes I I act impuls, but like I will always result back
Starting point is 01:41:45 to the logical underlying of everything. You know what it is too? You know who you are. Yeah. I know what I would want if I was Alabama in this situation. She's human. And I think, yeah, I could sit here and be like, man, fuck that bitch.
Starting point is 01:42:00 What the fuck? Like this, that, the third. As I did at 22. What the hell does that do for her? And like, do I do i if i sit back if i went home tonight after coming on here and absolutely ripping her to shreds ripping anybody to shreds and and knowing that if she saw it she would she has emotions she feels things regardless of how she wants to act online like she feels real raw emotions and to know that she would feel worse than what she's already feeling it's like why would i contribute to that i hope the people who see the videos of
Starting point is 01:42:31 you popping off also see this because it's like you are the definition of like fuck with me i'll fuck with you back but also like i'll never start it but i'll finish it ever i'll never i'll never ever ever start i'll never pick a fight with you. Yeah. Ever. Until you pick one with me first. Yes. And then I'll finish the fight. For showing a lot of the young girls who follow you that standing up for yourself isn't. But I'll never, ever feel okay. Like, genuinely knowing that I've hurt someone to a point of, like, deep sadness and something
Starting point is 01:43:00 that they'll never forget. Because I've been that bitch. I was that bitch in high school that just said the craziest shit to get under someone's skin knowing damn well if i that was said to me i would have gone off the rails and i think that especially when you're online and we're all so clinically ungodly online yeah but it's like i'm just i'm spreading that thought to millions of people that's also going to side with me just because i have that opinion and that's not fair to her and it's not fair to anyone in a situation even if right i was genuinely done dirty i would say it i would say my piece i'd have a logical explanation as to why i feel the
Starting point is 01:43:38 way that i do but i would never go on anything and like rip them to shreds because they're not they're not here to they're not here to talk shit back to me granted if i'm like going at it with someone and you're like yo let's have you and the girl on there she's there to defend herself i think it's cheesy corny and lame as fuck for someone to go online and absolutely trash a person when that person can't respond that's not fair you're not good for you you'll talk all that behind a camera but you won't say it to their face. And yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:06 Alabama doesn't know that I truly don't have deep hatred for her. Really, how would she know? But now's the place to say it and good for you, dude, at 22,
Starting point is 01:44:12 it took me so much fucking longer to realize all of that. Like, I think you're just very like ahead of what 22 should look like in your position and it's really great. I went through a lot of bullshit
Starting point is 01:44:21 to get here. A lot of fucking bullshit to be able to think this way. And it's, and I went through a lot of bullshit yeah to get here a lot of fucking bullshit to be able to think this way and it's and I still fail and I still fuck up and I still say shit I don't mean you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:44:30 the self-awareness I'm so proud of you I don't know like you know it's just like it's I don't I don't know you well yet but like it's
Starting point is 01:44:38 I just I am and I pride myself on being like well-spoken you are like I I really if I ever like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:45 I'll go and talk shit on Tik Tok, but like if it came down to it, like you can have the long form. I really can. I really can. I can say it well and I can say it in a manner where it can genuinely probably get through to someone. And even good for you for having that confidence, right?
Starting point is 01:44:59 Because it's like so many girls would struggle with even just feeling confident enough to say I'm well-spoken. But that's back. Timothee Chalam chalamet and yes really did you see him acknowledging that you like you don't always have to be so humble yeah we were talking about how it's become a trend to be like humble and you can't admit that you're smart and you can't admit that you're talented and stuff because it looks like you know cocky and braggy and like but people with people like we've gotten away from it a little bit and then timothy chalamet just did his acceptance speech and he's like yeah i've been trying to be great and like i want to be great and like i am great yes and it's so cool to fucking it's not it's not it's not lame to give someone their flowers when they and give yourself flowers
Starting point is 01:45:37 you know 100 i think it's a good beautiful thing i haven't asked you about the bob house at all it's a great place okay i want to i want to ask the corny like what would logan paul do question okay how much fucking money are you guys making and give me a pure answer you don't have to actually like i'm just i don't i want to hear more about it i want to know speak for me well sophie i think is at three four mil a month uh that she's doing really, really well for me. I'm currently right now in this,
Starting point is 01:46:09 like currently 1.5. Um, um, you're 20. Julia, do you mind? You mind if I say yours? Me.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Yeah. You just clear it or not. I won't. If you don't want to, I want to know. Julia is on the brink of like 800 7 800 oh my god yeah no we're i'm sick to my stomach yeah and i'm so proud of you thanks and it's so insane thanks it's so insane it's just so cool i just love to see women win in any way and it feels like the girls are fucking killing it yes like the bop house is also i want to address this like the bop house i think a lot of people
Starting point is 01:46:53 they'll go online and they'll be like the bop house is a fucking horrible place they they're all like do you know what what's behind the bop house it's all these dirty men that are wanting to see them naked like no can i just say i wish i really wish it was these dirty like i i really wish it was these men that were watching this right because then i would it would convert way better but i to my surprise it's all like we're not making overly sexual content on TikTok. Yeah. Like it's just that's just not what's happening. So you're all like showing your personalities. You're showing that women are multifaceted. Right.
Starting point is 01:47:31 I think these girls are obsessed with like the it's like almost looks like a big girl's sleepover. And we're, you know, we're not over sexualizing ourselves. Grant, Instagram, bitch, please pop my pussy every day. But on TikTok, it's very we have over like 70 percent of our viewers are women and i think because it's so interesting to them right and i think people are associating like that's not what we meant for it to be but we are i'm eternally grateful like my girls i love them i love my girls like they are and that's literally everything scenario the most
Starting point is 01:48:02 loyal kind like i love my fans like to my core like i will literally that's literally a dream scenario the most loyal kind like i love my fans like to my core like i will literally say i cried about it when tiktok i'll say it with pride babe i cried about it when tiktok got banned was on instagram bawling my eyes out because you're back to the men i'm scared like take me out of here like i was so used to the like i would do things on purpose to get rage bait because i knew it would get men to engage yeah and i'm totally cool with that and i'll go back to that could give two fucks but now you get to kiki with the girls but kiki with the girls is a new level of like oh my fuck i never had a sister like this is i feel seen credible yeah so i want to preface that the
Starting point is 01:48:42 it's the girlies in there like i get why people are upset by it you have the dream sets you're making the money off the men but then you're having fun with the girls like i feel when girls when it is just all men and that's all your content those girls are masterminds you know yeah but they probably wish there were some more girls in there to like you know get them and see them percent and i think i just I love where the concept of the Bop House is going me too I love that we each individually make our own money and at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:49:11 we are our own CEOs and we are we have a brain to make our own decisions and there's no one there saying we can't granted do I wish we had a PR team that could get us on a red carpet yes of course who doesn't but it's this almost is your Met Gala. Like, it's better.
Starting point is 01:49:27 It's so authentic. And like we were talking about, you know, earlier, it's just like you are taking those bricks down, obviously, for a future where you can show it converts better and yada, yada. I just, I don't know. I just love the Bop House. I want to know, like, what do you guys do on an off day? Like, what is it? What is nighttime like, like, what do you guys do on an off day? Like, what is it?
Starting point is 01:49:45 What is it? What is nighttime like? Like, what do you guys get into? Like, the girls all knew each other previously, like for years before I became a part of it. Like, they were all friends for a really long time. They kind of lived in their own houses and just kind of like kiki'd and got together. Honestly, they never really got together. Like, it was just kind of like they knew each other.
Starting point is 01:50:04 They would go on group trips together and like have a good time whatever and then i started doing really really well with this whole podcast thing the clips that i would be putting out there was drama that happened between um sophie and aisha and then i addressed it on my podcast had both of them there they rekindled and then we're like wait this rekindling and being together is fun let's do like a bop house. Let's make it a thing. Who thought of the name? I think it was just kind of given. We're all bops.
Starting point is 01:50:31 No one really thought of it. It just kind of came. No one was like, we didn't have a meeting. It was like, okay, guys, what are we going to call the house? It was just like bops. We're all bops.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Then one of us was like, yo, let's do a bop house. It's so organic and it's great. I just love anything that flips the nail on the head too. You know you know what i mean that's just like everyone's gonna call us this anyways and like how funny if we literally trademark this low key like why do i kind of love like the name bob like it's so cute it is cute right like it's like you're calling me a like how demure yes mindful one time my ex called me a trish and i didn't know what that word that's such a good word the way i was like i love the word trish it's such a like
Starting point is 01:51:10 it's yeah like she was like you're just a fucking trish and i was like i'm a tree like that one's a bit more like it's more like impactful like if you're called a tree like but like oh i was being a tree but like, she's just a bop. Like, yeah, like bop to the top. Right. Like there's so much to do. I love that. I really like,
Starting point is 01:51:29 it's a house. I mean, that would be funny too, but like also great house. Yeah. Take it how you want it. Not a lot of girls know what bop means. Even just hearing it,
Starting point is 01:51:37 I want to go there. I feel like fucking Shane Dawson when he would like, when he was just like older and then would do his conspiracy theories and like fucking show up. That was the best era ever. It's what I'm doing i'm doing i'm shane dawsoning but i'm like i want to go to the bop house you will every you will you need to come to the bop i'm just so excited you're overdue y'all are both overdue for one of miami experience and two the bop house miami experience and i'm so
Starting point is 01:51:59 excited and i'm excited for sober miami i'm excited for you to like show miami bop house yacht experience doesn't get better. It's going to be great. And this, once again, I know we already said it. And I said it earlier, but I just want to say it again. Just everyone's situation is different. This is not glamorizing or telling anyone to do anything. You know, you got to make your own decisions with that and try all the things.
Starting point is 01:52:21 This is a very unique, it's a very very very unique experience do not do not just think that oh because we do that you need to go make one and it's going to end up like this no it you what we don't do is broadcast the horrible things that happen you know we are there are lots of downsides we were broke like we have stalkers we that's where my main stalker comes from he shattered the back door he posted pictures of him literally can i say this is this okay okay of him like masturbating like on our things like he put like he yeah like he went on and was messaging us like dick pics while he was breaking into the house very vulgar things that's exactly what my guy would do to like show send photos of him
Starting point is 01:53:05 in my backyard like that shit is fucking horrifying and i think that no we don't talk about these things and maybe honestly maybe we should i think it's important i think it's important to be so transparent about the full spectrum of what it is it is you know what the sad thing is too is like because we're in sex work, not even, we are in sex work. And like, because we are in this industry, we tolerate a lot of shit because it's almost what we deem to like be expected, right? Like, I do tolerate. There are downsides to the creepy men. Saying shit about me to my face and being like, you know, like just the most vulgar shit.
Starting point is 01:53:43 And we're like, you know what? Like, I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight with you because i it's almost like i chose this so i'm just gonna let it it is you have to kind of unfortunately societally eat it and it's something that you know you're forsaking for the bag it's the amount of shit people have said to me or grabbed me or touched me or whatever i can't imagine to your boyfriend yeah i know it's well oh my god i've guys come up to him all the time and like dap him up and be like and it's just like nice tits you got like me personally
Starting point is 01:54:07 like I know you use that hand to jack off right to like you know and it does make me uncomfortable and it would make any woman uncomfortable
Starting point is 01:54:15 even if it's a guy you previously slept with that knows your boyfriend and then it's like like that's an uncomfortable situation but we post it to make money
Starting point is 01:54:23 so it's like yeah our world isn't there are parts of our world that are really nice and glamorous and yeah we can buy the cars they want we can buy the house we can provide for people and yes it's amazing and great but there are things that we just don't talk about that are fucking horrifying they're disgusting and to be very honest with you like i would not want my daughter to do it i wouldn't't. And I think that's, I wouldn't. A powerful thing to say as well, because you're like, hey, I'm doing this and I love this,
Starting point is 01:54:49 but it's not, that is you directly saying, it's not for everyone else. And I would hope that, and a part of me fears, even just being a woman, like a part of me fears having a daughter. Like I say it all the time, like not that I don't want a daughter, I don't want her to go through the horrible things
Starting point is 01:55:04 that some women have to go through, not horrible things that some women have to go through. Not all, but some women have to go through. So me doing this to try and set myself up for my kids, you don't think I know that I'm going to have backlash when they could figure out what mom dud, did, dud. Did, does, if she's still doing it at the time, hopefully not. But like, I'm setting myself up to try and provide a better life
Starting point is 01:55:26 that i didn't have yes so it's same i feel you so it's like i know what i'm doing i know the backlash i'm gonna have and i fear that it will have more of an impact on my daughter than it would if i had a son that's just how i personally feel about that's the thing we were talking about this it's like you raise the son to not be bad to the world you raise the daughter to protect herself from the world you know and it's yeah 100 it is just very very wild and i feel like i would be such a different mom to a girl than i would to a guy for right now i can say that right now that'll probably change and every your world flips upside down when you have kids in a in the best way possible way more helicopter with a daughter though like i would just be i think an overbearing mother like
Starting point is 01:56:08 i would be just the fucking cuntiest like bitch mom to a daughter because like what the fuck do you mean you're gonna go no you're not going anywhere like the fuck do you mean you're going out you went on hinge and you met the fuck no you're not going on no dates you're 17 like my daughter was 17 trying to go on a date like i'd fucking grab her by the neck tie her up like no no that's not about it like i tie her to the bed and be like you're not fucking going anywhere like no and it's so but then it's like so scary because it's like those are the kids that end up being i know and i was never like that my mom let me do whatever the fuck i wanted me too but because of that i didn't want to do anything bad yeah i
Starting point is 01:56:45 totally get psychological warfare being a parent why is it that i want to be like i'm sheltered like you are not doing anything because the world is so scary like oh my god the world is so fucking scary dude i mean it's as you get older at two you just realize like i mean we always fucking say this but it's like your parents are just fucking people trying to navigate this shit. Can we talk about how that is the craziest experience to go through is when your mind, like it's almost like a day and night click of you've outgrown your parents. I literally said this on the last episode.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Oh my fucking. Like you literally outgrow your parents. It's the strangest thing. The weirdest feeling. Well, and just because society is moving so fast and well just because our experience is so different in life was so different from there's our world this will never happen again as well though like once like malibu barbie paytas is a mom and she has a kid they will fully be in the technology the world is fucked up place like but there will be something that they have that we didn't yes
Starting point is 01:57:44 but i wonder if it'll ever be the baby of the generation like our grandparents were using fucking rotary phones you know like it is insane the technological and just societal difference like imagine explaining hinge to them imagine explaining my grandma would have loved it true like it's a door dash like it's just they don't i don't know it's so wild like and my my exactly like the the day that i like couldn't ask not ask my parents for advice but like that they didn't understand what i was doing anymore was the day that i it was crazy I say all the time I'm like I have to choose a relationship with my parents yeah like that was when I knew like okay I have to wake up every day and choose to have a relationship with you because I do not need you yes and you might feel like they
Starting point is 01:58:36 don't understand you so it's like a hard thing and I especially with fame as well and money and all of those things you know a hundred percent and it's like what I love about it the most is like my mom and my parents want to know everything. So like I'll call them like on a day-to-day basis and like keep them updated. And I have to, I choose every day to keep them in the loop about everything I'm doing. Like I recently, like we just put an offer for a house and we got accepted. Like buying my first house. Like that is something that my parents like, as a parent, you probably always dream of your kid buying my first house like that is something that my parents like you're as a parent you probably always dream of your kid buying their first house and like they didn't do
Starting point is 01:59:09 it and the fact that they're so supportive and amazing is awesome my mom is the most it shows though in your emotional maturity as well my dad is the he is that guy let me tell you and that's everything like girls with of do have good parents i do have a dad he's fucking incredible he is that man let me tell you got this man a new set of veneers a fucking red cherry red corvette like this man is in his way like all your dad he looks great he's like going to the gym i recently retired them so like they're like thriving on a new level i'm like this is this right here is what i literally live for and what you were put on this earth to do oh my god like that brings me so much joy because it's like i never got like it's like watching my parents live again it's a crazy thing
Starting point is 01:59:57 ever like it is so it's so cute like it's just like yeah i'm like you know what like you go and drive with the top down and go get like overly expensive steak for no reason yeah you go and do that you go and make a dumb ass purchase because you couldn't before yeah and that makes me so happy though i love seeing this like side of you and you are just a softy sweetie i really am like to the people like even like with julia like we bitch we have to do a podcast i mean julia's like lure like we don't need the fuck back i can't wait for that too like honest yeah leave ash travino wherever the fuck she is on my podcast and we'll like just do like a whole like lure let's do it of how tana got to where tana is and
Starting point is 02:00:33 where me and julia go yes i would fucking love to i think even just that you have the power too to where you're bringing all of your friends into this and like and i think i've been fucked over many times by the people that i've tried bringing into my world and that they just honestly weren't meant for it but like julia was like the last friend that i have from back home like the when i say the last like i mean like she was one of like the og friends that i was like i have these like fantasies in my head when i started doing this i envisioned all of my friends being there whether they were in the industry as far as social media or not like i always envisioned them just being there to like let's praise each other and
Starting point is 02:01:12 like our own successes and the last resort was like julia's julia's life story is just a very impactful story so i'll let her tell it but like bringing her into my world like and watching her flourish in her way i almost like it was like a segue and then it was like she was chosen by the people literally like people were like oh my god i something about her i love and then it was just like that's kind of you know it's like it's such a cute story it was it's adorable like that's what i live for it's like yeah money is great but like what the fuck does it matter it's also like you saying it's funny we've been talking about advice we would like want to give our younger selves a lot lately it's been this whole thing but like one of the things i thought about yesterday was like and even advice i would give you right now at 22 is like you think all these things are going to be
Starting point is 02:01:59 forever and they they might not be and as you even you're already experiencing this getting older and realizing these things are chapters and i hope you you're already experiencing this getting older and realizing these things are chapters and I hope you're just so present in the moment and this Bop house there might be you know look at the Hype House
Starting point is 02:02:10 they thought they'd be forever and then Charlie and Addison all of them would be together and then you know what I mean it blew up in flames and like whatever like just really be so present in this moment
Starting point is 02:02:20 because what you're doing is so special and everyone's trying to recreate it and you are the 100% like that's my biggest flaw yeah and it's hard you you just start going fast especially when you're young and all this is coming at you but like just know that this is so special and that your story is so one of a billion and i just be as present as you fucking
Starting point is 02:02:40 can be and be like this might all be different tomorrow i know and that and that's what your 20s is for everyone you think the friends you're gonna have or the person you're dating is forever and then it's like the worst and best drug ever it's like i'm always like chasing that next thing like it's like a new viral thing but it's like i i just genuinely forget bro i'm 22 living with one of my like best friends and we need to do like i this is something that yeah i don't go out i don't literally do anything that a 20 regular or most 22 year olds are doing in miami right and it's like a lot of the times good and bad though julia is like the other side she's like we need to go out we need to like even my live and just be he's like we need to do these things and i'm like no but we could be doing this we could be and i'm i need to enjoy it because i know I'll regret it. I'm just like you, though.
Starting point is 02:03:26 And I think this world, there are certain types of people where you, like, get in this world. And you start seeing those numbers. And then you're chasing the next thing and whatever. And even I, like, I found myself holding a failed convention or having a fake live stream marriage because I'm so lost in chasing that next thing. And in reality, people fucking love you for you. You know, and even an episode of you guys just on the fucking couch is your next Ash Trevino episode. It is your next moment. You know, and yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:58 I just, I think that's so valuable because I think obviously hearing it from people that I watch, right? Like, of course, I've watched you guys. I've seen the journey of Tana, bitch. Been a fan. Okay. OG. And so it's like hearing that from someone that's been doing it is, it's impactful for sure. And I think that I do need to focus on,
Starting point is 02:04:11 okay, this is happening right now. You will get those numbers regardless because you are you like you are. Yeah. True. And we love you. We love you so much. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:04:21 I think, I think we had a successful. I think this was great. This is the first time I've spoken in general about someone being interested in my story. Right? Because when you talk about other people's stories, I don't get to throw in my fucking personality in two cents.
Starting point is 02:04:37 So y'all got the first. And you are so much more than just the beefs. And I almost wish people did that for me. I think that's why my whole tune changed in today's episode. Originally it was like, yes, come give us the tea on these major things. But then you sit down and I just see so much of myself in you.
Starting point is 02:04:51 I don't know why. Like I'm so drawn to you and I'm like, fuck this. You are so much more than just, you know what I mean? Like the moments and you're going to have a very long, big, successful Mrs.
Starting point is 02:05:01 Beast career. And yes, yes. Changing lives. And I hope that when you do see that first YouTube video where like the house, where I buy someone a house
Starting point is 02:05:09 and they change their life, I hope really soon they're like, I'm so excited. Yes, I will be. Yes. No matter what fact, I'm just not, I'm always here.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Just, I love you. I'm supporting you. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for coming on the K-Pool Podcast. I love you guys. This was incredible. Thank you.

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