Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield - 127: TREVI AND TANA’S BLACKOUT BELLA THORNE STORIES… - Ep. 127

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:19 If you have questions or concerns about gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. Bid MGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hello and welcome back to the Canceled Podcast. Who's supposed to join you? No, today we have the fabulous Trevi Moran on as a guest. Hi! And I'm so happy to have you.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I'm so happy. Same. We've never done like a full gig and a gag. Hi. And I'm so happy to have you. I'm so happy. Same. We've never done like a full gig and a gag. Have we never? No, I guess yeah. You always, you came on with? No, I've been on, okay, so it was the one where we were talking about the Trans Day of Visibility, Instagram verified,
Starting point is 00:00:59 paying swipe. Oh yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, what a time. It was the one where I came on in like that neck to toe, like sparkly boohoo dress, and that was just trannylicious to the max. And then there was one where I came on like a Gia like tube top. But it's all been in like 10 minute increments.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You also remembering it in outfits is the most like me coded shit ever. I'm always trying to explain something to Mako and I was like, and I had the blue corset on and he's like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Well, I'm so excited that you're here for a full episode. Oh, our embarrassing drunk night at the VMAs. Look at it.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Oh, but you look fabulous. That hair color's everything, I guess. It just wasn't like natural. Like I wanted to give Gingy, like ginger boots and that just gave like you die. You die every four weeks. Come on. That's true, that's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:01:49 That is splat hair dye. But you've nailed it now, it looks amazing. Thanks, I mean, I don't do it, but. Carlos does, and we love. Carlos does, and we love. Well so, I mean, shit. I like love just having a friend on and having no plan and like just rolling with the punches.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Like there's something so different about interviewing someone versus just like getting to have a cute team. I know, I wasn't mean for it, I'll tell you that much. No yeah, and don't interview me because I'll already talk about myself enough, I promise. What the fuck is going on? What's our current events? Yeah, what is like going on?
Starting point is 00:02:22 It's hard because- Jojo is Joelle. Jojo is Joelle. Jojo is Joelle. Right. And I mean, I'm all for like switching things up. Like I really threw a couple of people for a loop. Yeah, I think people live their truth. They live in different eras.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And Joelle is the de-bo-ification is what it sounds like. Yeah, you're right, she is de-bo-ifying. I love de-bo-ifying. Yeah, which is very important. It's hard, I think, you know why I think I'm detesting it mentally? Is because to me, I'm like, if you were going by Joelle, you would be almost, and maybe I'm gonna get in trouble
Starting point is 00:03:02 for saying this, but acting like Joelle. Like to me, I think cheating on Big Brother is very JoJo. Really? I forgot about that part. I haven't gotten too deep into the lore. Like to me, Joelle would mean she has the shadow root and a farm and you know. You just want everyone to be a clean girl, don't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 No, I really do live for the rebrand though. No, I mean, I'll never be a clean girl don't you? Yeah I really do live for the rebrand though. No I mean I'll never be a clean girl as hard as I try and I feel like Joelle is like just like put your hair let your hair down. Have I met anybody? Like no more scalp trauma no more slick back no more traction alopecia. I know but to me Joelle just I have that. You have alopecia? I have traction alopecia. I have. Did you say come on puff like Jordan Morrone's dog? Yeah. Yeah. Aw. It's not to be joked about.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I know that. But what is the T? Basically if you just do too many tight ponytails, you get like traction alopecia. Oh, well isn't that what Joelle has? Yeah, so that's where it came from. Where everyone was like making fun of her hairline at one point, remember?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Oh shit, yeah I do do remember that that's not fair That is and she has just like been through a lot of unnecessary Things so I'm trying to give her like so much grace I'm you know what I watched her on special forces, and I'm like love so so differently. What is that? She's amazing it's like a like a basically like Navy SEAL training show where they do like the most extreme things ever and it's seal training show where they do like the most extreme things ever and it's miserable and horrible and she was like but then it's like black China and Tom Sandoval like scaling a wall in three degree weather and if they're all like
Starting point is 00:04:31 very committed to their craft yeah cuz they come I feel like people kind of go on it almost for a rebrand like just show a different side of them like I would argue to say most people who went on special forces are kind of like you what do they win their career career back? Nothing. It's all for pride. Honestly though, Tom Sandoval went on Traders and people love him again. Okay, I didn't watch that one. Oh, you'll love it. Are you in reality TV at all? Like, no, not really. The only time I ever got back in reality TV was for the Love Island, like the recent season.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Well, it's people from a bunch of different shows, but Traders is just good. It's very like themed. It's like, what's his name? Alan, Alan Cummings? Alan Cummings. Oh, Alan Cummings. He's in Gym Crazy. And it's just so, yeah, everything's fabulous.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And I think you would love it, but Tom Sandoval, like obviously he was just like such a villain. Everybody hated him so much after the whole situation. And he went on that and he's just so goofy and stupid on the show that everyone just feels bad for him and they were all like, we love him. And everyone also loved Wendy, right? Yeah, oh yes, but that's so valid.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I've been watching Overcompensating this past week. I started it. What is it? Well, it's so cool because Benito Skinner, like Benny drama, you'd like Drama, you know his skits, remember when he was doing all those skits with Kourtney Kardashian and being so funny, and he's just a talented comedian and writer, really.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And he just released the show, and it's all about him going into college, but being gay and in the closet still, and just showing how everyone's overcompensating to be something that they're not. And they're just crazy. Lottie Moss is weirdly in it. I just found out today, Charlie X-X is in an episode.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And it's just very, I don't know, it's very funny. At first I kinda thought it was a little bit corny, but then it gets better. I did see what it's like camp, and then you realize that you have to adjust to the vibe. What I find to be fabulous about that show is that it is that like it seems that major studios are like recognizing what can come from digital talent and
Starting point is 00:06:34 it's like such a major success and I think that's just gonna open so many doors for so many amazing like writers and you know anybody that's like funny and puts themselves out there on social media. And I get what you're saying like so many people being deemed by the overcast of being an influencer So like not getting cast for things or you know like taking serious I kind of think those days are like over what days of like influencers not being taken seriously in like the yeah Like I think society that just came out adults Okay, has like Jack and on it. Okay, Jack and Onnion. Yeah, I don't know, I say In-N-In and Owen Thiel.
Starting point is 00:07:10 What's it called? Adults. I need, I just think he's so funny. I've heard amazing things about it, I need to watch it all the way through, but I just know Owen, I'm obsessed with Owen, but they're influencers. Yeah, that's so good.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And just like funny, like TikTokers. Jack was like a, he did did like he was acting on TikTok. So funny. So funny. Yeah, I remember sliding in, trying, failing. Me too. I actually did too. What a niche funny thing for all of us to have tried to slide in on Jack and not have been failing. Duh, look at him. Anyway, um.
Starting point is 00:07:42 He kind of looks like Aaron. Huh? You're hot. Um. Yeah, literally, we all did. That's so funny. We all slid in. I wonder how many other people
Starting point is 00:07:52 we've all slid in the DMs of. Ooh, I love this game. Probably so many. Anyone with a mustache like that, I've slid in, you just can assume. You got that thing on them. That caterpillar. You know who I slid in on,
Starting point is 00:08:02 like literally every single member of those bananas? Who are the bananas? The baseball players? Savannah bananas? Wait, that caterpillar. You know who I split in on, like literally every single member of those bananas? Who are the bananas? The baseball players? Savannah bananas? Wait, that's a team name? Yes, and they do lip syncing TikToks in the stadium. Oh yeah, and they're like singing Ordinary Running to the Fields.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's amazing. It happens. I really wanna talk about Labooboos. I just talked about this of mine. I don't understand. That's valid. I'll tell you what I'm gathering from it. Well, pretty much how I handle everything in life is like,
Starting point is 00:08:34 does everybody else do it? Like then I'll do it. Right. I'm very much like my friends jumped off a cliff. So I jumped off a cliff. Yeah. I saw everybody get it. Like there was a hype. So now I'm obsessed. Yeah, but is that not everything that's wrong with society?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, of course, of course. Like 1000%, and I love the self-awareness, that's major T, but I just am thinking of like, I was at that Gentle Monster event, and like there were A-list like influencers with millions of dollars, mind you, there's little boooboos hanging off Birkins. I know, I was saying that like.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's camp. But I had it on this bag and I was just like, damn, this is actually depreciating the look of like my bag. By the time this comes out, no one knows what Labooboos are. I know. And it's crazy, I opened up TikTok shop the other day and I'm like, I love TikTok shop for just like, random things, like a good neck pillow,
Starting point is 00:09:26 like you know what I mean? And I'm scrolling and every single item is backpack for Labooboo with mini Labooboo in backpack. Labooboo. And then Labooboo hanging off the mini Labooboo. Like just like Labooboo, and I'm like, people are actually making like, I'm about to start a Labooboo side business.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, I have a friend who owns a Labooboo store. Yeah, and it's so smart. It's genius like an actual store We'll start it. She was a sunny angel business and now she's dabbling in little boo-boos Wow I think I have two little foo-foos, but wait that's another that's an actual thing. Yeah, just fake little boo-boos Oh like a lot of them are fake. Like a fjord or like a like putting like, like, foe, it got it. Yeah, like a Walmart Birkin. Um. A Birkin. A Birkin. Join the fun on DraftKings Casino.
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Starting point is 00:11:02 on eyelers and Krzyjk 2h24 product analysis. Thank you Draftkings Casino for sponsoring today's episode of the cancelled podcast. The crown is yours. I don't know. At first I was like behind it, but the more I see I'm like it's every three videos on my TikTok. Like even Ashley and Mario just went and they did this for content. So I'm not talking shit about them doing this. Like they went and did it for a vlog, which I think is so smart, obviously capitalizing. But they went to, like people were camping outside of the Century City pop mart. Like I was there yesterday and it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Like people, it was all day, but like they round the fucking all of Beverly Hills. They camped for like 12 hours, like 6 p.m. to like the next day, like 9 a.m., so longer. And like, they made videos of it, which is like great and whatever, but I'm thinking there are so many people in this line that are just doing it for no,
Starting point is 00:11:53 like they just want a Labooboo that bad. I'm so confused, are you allowed to get, how many are you allowed to buy? The only like, I think it's like four per person. So they can't, all that time, and they could have just gone on eBay? I guess, but then it's because they they like there's secret labooboos We're only like one in every 72 is this special kind and it can be resold for so much money
Starting point is 00:12:12 And then there's the big labooboos. I forget what they're called the giant ones like the big big Is this like the gays and days bit going Whoa, like is this gonna be like real estate like our are like or is this like the gays and thays Bitcoin? Whoa. Like is this gonna be like real estate? Like are like, or is this like the gays and thays? No I think this is like, not Bitcoin, I think this is like NFT. Pokemon card? Oh card?
Starting point is 00:12:33 NFTs is so real. Like cause it is like. When they're gonna be worth nothing, like everyone's spending all this money and it's like, your Lafoofoo is good for nothing. Yeah, I mean this is just giving me like, Webkin's tease. Like, oh my god. I know, I just think like like, Webkin's tees.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Oh my god. I know, I just think, you know what it is, I think Rihanna just had one. And everyone was like, oh obviously we all need these. And now I'm like, I have a meeting with like a bag charm manufacturer this week because I'm like how the fuck do I capitalize on this? But bag charms aren't going away.
Starting point is 00:12:57 They've been around long before LeBoubous. But if you think about it, a LeBoubou is just like a bag charm. Like theoretically like all. That's what I'm saying, it's not a bad idea to take the meeting. Yeah, but I'm about it, a la boo boo is just a bag charm. Theoretically, all- I'm saying it's not a bad idea to take the meeting. Yeah, but I'm saying I wanna make my own and then seed it into celebrities and do my best because that's all that happened here.
Starting point is 00:13:17 But it is also just sad. I feel like we are at this consumerism height. I have an idea. What if it was a a chain hanging off like your bag, but it was like to hold your vape? I think a little, I was talking about that, a vape holder, a joint holder or something, but it would have to be like a little creature, I think,
Starting point is 00:13:37 due to something's wrong. I've been having a lot of disappointment because I've been having a lot of like, golden shark tank ideas where I'm like, oh my God, I'm about to be a billionaire, and then I'll just look it up online and it exists Can you tell me one of them one of them like specifically? I've been carrying like big hobo bags a lot Uh-huh and like also specifically when I'm wearing a jacket if I like and walking down the street
Starting point is 00:13:57 It just slides off my arm all day long Yeah, I wanted like a little rubber thing here to like make it so that it doesn't yeah, like just so exists And but I was telling everyone and they were like you are a genius literally It's gonna be amazing. And I feel like that is on Amazon. I love shark tank though Yeah, I watched on the airplane recently That's it. You know that I heard so, you know how like Shark Tank turned down Ring or whatever and then Ring became this multi-billion dollar company? The guy, my boyfriend was showing me,
Starting point is 00:14:30 next to his parents' house, the guy who owns Ring bought an entire neighborhood, like an entire gated community of like multi, multi-million dollar houses and it just put up all his friends in there. So it's just like, the whole neighborhood is just like his people that he made. That's my goal. That's the dream, I know that's your goal.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You love to take care of your people. Right? That's my codependency, I would live. But isn't that cool? Who would you guys put on your compound? Oh my God. Or in your neighborhood? I would make you my next door neighbor.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah. And who's closest? Who's sharing a wall? Like who's? I don't think we could share a wall, but we could share a neighborhood. No, I'm saying who's right next door? And who's a few steps down the street?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Uh-huh. Oh my god, this is hard. This is so hard. Trevi's next door to me, I think. I feel like you'd want maybe a few steps down the street. Maybe get a bunch like specific limes. Lime. I love liming. Did you just sing lime in the tone of Bozzy's mind?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, it's in our Mexico video. Doot, doot, doot, doot. That's where we're at. Now where's Bozzy these days? I don't know. At the Roxy. Oh my God, I was texting this girl the other day to collab on OnlyFans,
Starting point is 00:15:46 and then I made a group chat with her boyfriend, and then her boyfriend is like, I have the perfect location for you guys to shoot. I'm like, okay, and he sends photos, and it's just the Roxy. Who is it? Who's the girl? Young Gravy and Ari Kitsia.
Starting point is 00:16:03 But I was just like, what do I guess if only pants is for? like a male fantasy like being in like a Dive like it does kind of work like we're like playing pool or whatever But I also just like ought to be an easier way to find a pool table. Yeah Where was I just at the head of pool table? Oh? No, but what if you just did what if you rented out Barney's? That would be so c***. Oh, like a Barney's Beanery homage.
Starting point is 00:16:30 But then I'd have to get all the Barney's wrath. Hole on table, like rent it out just you and a crew. It would work. Licking the bean-ery. Licking the bean-ery. Honestly, that's everything for someone. But I feel like that's almost like Tari Yummy needs to rent out Barney's Beanery and do a photo shoot, you know? She probably already has. Honestly, that's everything for someone. But I feel like that's almost like Tarry Yummy
Starting point is 00:16:45 needs to rent out Barney's Meannery and do a photo shoot, you know? Like. Probably already has. Yeah, because that's so iconic. I don't know. Doing OF today, I was literally sweating. I was like, I can't believe I used to just do this
Starting point is 00:16:55 all the time. Try being an influencer for a day. I know. Try being an influencer for a day. I know. It really is. Like, we were talking about this on stage, but arching your back and just like, even like I walked out in the lingerie, I was, it really is, like, we were talking about this on stage, but like, arching your back,
Starting point is 00:17:05 and like, just like, even like I walked out in the lingerie, I was shooting it, and Nicole was like, I've never seen this, and I was like, oh, I'm the worst. Cause like, are you ever like, I'm never, I've never like, unironically worn lingerie though, but I wish I was the type, I kind of feel like lingerie's one of those people, or things that if you don't like, implement it early on, like you never can.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's never gonna come back and it's gonna be weird. Yeah, if I just spontaneously popped out in lingerie, I think my boyfriend would be like, what? He's like, take off your clothes. Yeah. Yeah, it's like one of those things, you have to be in the rhythm of the comfortability of it, otherwise if you just fuck around and do it once,
Starting point is 00:17:39 you're like, why the fuck do I have this on? Well, I almost think I might be too comfortable to where I could never take myself seriously Cuz I want to be like How do you just like come out of the bathroom and you're just like Right, I've never yeah logistics like am I laying there my what if it takes them long a long time to come I don't know. I honestly agree and I've never like oh My god one time when I was dating like Valentine's Day and I've never like, oh my God, one time when I was dating B****, it was like Valentine's Day
Starting point is 00:18:06 and I had on this crazy lingerie, like garb, like latex, fucking, looking back, like scary, like garb. And he like, he walked out and I remember he was like scared. Like, and I think, I think I like said something or I don't even remember, I don't know what happened. Was this at home?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yes. And then it was just like super, I think he like couldn't get hard for a second. I was like, what's wrong? And he was like, I'm just nervous. Like I wasn't expecting this. Like I actually scared the man. No, that's scary. Like you put too much pressure on him too fast.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah, it's just so much. You know what else I was talking about the other day with like found funny we've never podcasted about. You were talking about with ****? No, talking about, yeah I said that, but that's not. Yeah, got it. No, I was just talking about this. Just clarify, I'm being your publicist.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I was talking about how when I broke up with him, and mind you, for cheating on me, like, I break up with him, and in his final exit days, he aired me the fuck out. Like I remember he went to like like I'm gonna bleep this name But he goes to like Tana thinks you are so fucking stupid Like she talks shit about your work ethic all the fucking time like you like you can't get it together like on his way out He told everybody I think he even came to me Actable like not respectable but like such a funny thing to do like I would love to do that to somebody Yeah, that's he's like if I'm on if I'm on my way out
Starting point is 00:19:23 I'm just gonna air everybody out and it's like obviously your wrong. He's like, if I'm on my way out, I'm just going to air everybody out. And it's like, obviously, your boyfriend hears everything that you feel about everyone every time. You know what I mean? I was just like, damn. Like, not only did he cheat, but on his way out. I think he DM'd me that. And you, right? I think he just told me that you thought I was an alcoholic, and I said, big whoop.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I just went to like, rack my brain, because I'm like, I know someone's done that to me before, and I said big whoop. I just went to like rock my brain because I'm like I know someone's done that to me before and I'm like was it him? I don't think it was because we weren't close during that time. That was done in like 2018, 2019. I really have like, I mean obviously you know, just all of the people I've dated are so nuts.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Like I'm imagining if like Makoa doing something like that. And he would never. You know what I mean? I'm glad I thought about that because I'm like somebody did that. What do you think made the switch of like going crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, and then just like because obviously throughout that entire time you could land on like a mentally sane man. And I did, there were a few where I like, I did. Like just that I feel like I would like just be like this guy's so boring.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I'm saying that like even if you did get in those situations with these like so-called mentally sane men, like what do you think it was about like accepting that? Cause I have that same problem that I'm just now like trying to get over where it's like I don't want to go after somebody who I almost feel like is gonna like instantly like shower me and like
Starting point is 00:20:56 niceness and love it's like I almost love like a chase moment. Where did you like find that like I guess for both of you that like landing on like the same one? I do feel like Makoa is like special to this scenario because he's also very interesting. Yeah I know he is like and just like Yeah, a lot of them were like too boring and too nice Like you got to have some grit for me to like like you but I think there's a difference in like some grit Versus like this man just doesn't care if I live or die Yeah, and that's what it was. I think I's a difference in like some grit versus like this man just doesn't care if I live or die
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah, and that's what it was. I think I really realized like damn. I do want to like progress Like I just eventually it's like it's like drug use. It's like alcohol use you keep dating those fucking shitty men and like yeah but I know what you're saying though cuz like like honestly we talked about it in real time on this podcast cuz like miles for example he's not uninteresting, but instantly I was off put by how easy it was and how nice he was. Right, and then I question it when I'm in scenarios like that, because it's like, why is this so easy?
Starting point is 00:21:53 I was trying to find every way to sabotage it, literally ever, because it was like that, it just felt so unnatural to me for somebody to just actually be interested and actually be nice and actually do the things I wanted them to do. In city too. And like I needed like the push and pull. And so it took her being like, Brooke, like give it a fair chance. Like do not blow it off over something stupid. I was like, I was convincing myself so hard. I kept going, he won't get on a horse. And I just know that like the man who I'm going to marry is going to get
Starting point is 00:22:21 on a horse. That's so funny like that is because I remember actually having to like look at you and like you're saying that and I'm like okay but what what is the deeper meaning here? It's not natural especially when you're used to like putting yourself in situations with guys like that who are so awful that's probably why I was it just felt literally wrong and then like the second I like leaned in it's like I spent just enough time with him where I was like oh now I can't I don't want to get out of this ever. Yeah. And I think that like chaos we talked about this recently briefly on an episode but a chaos is a coping mechanism but also be like choosing choosing somebody where you know the capacity of how they're probably going to hurt you is safer than truly
Starting point is 00:23:05 vulnerably falling and like giving somebody all the millions of ways to actually hurt you and hold your whole heart and like drop it you know like it's I think that for so long I would choose people that I subconsciously to like not even like actively I was subconsciously choosing someone who I had to like chase and beg for them to love me because that was like what I knew from my childhood and what was like and it felt safer to me because I know how I'm going to get hurt yeah you know like versus with Nicole like right now if that man did fucking wizard Liz my ass I would fucking oh my god like yeah a little bit that's just yeah yeah that's just what's not says
Starting point is 00:23:44 that you never fully know and you have to kind of accept that that like real loving and trusting is always gonna be like a gamble but Life is short. I mean our coping mechanisms might be a little bit different, but like I I don't have a problem with vulnerability or like Speaking my truth or like my emotions or anything. I think I just have a problem with like cool girling too hard and like being afraid of being vulnerable because I feel like when I am vulnerable is when things fail. Well that's like a natural, yeah that's natural
Starting point is 00:24:19 to feel that way but I think it's better. Paige made a TikTok about this where she was like, I spent so much of my fucking life being the cool girl and like the chill girl and it's and it's so real like it's it's so real because it's like you want this person to like you and you want to be so cool but I think that the like matter of fact like the truth of the matter is like if they're gonna fucking like you they're gonna like you no matter what you You know what I mean? For all of you. And like, call people out. Crash the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Like demand what you want, you know? Like, I think it saves everybody a lot of time. I think that's also it too, is it's just like, if whoever the person is, is not the fucking one, then like so be it. Like, you know, I think it's better to learn as early as you can. You know? Right, like weed them out. Like why, I don't know, I think it's better to learn as early as you can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You know? Right, like weed them out. Like why, I don't know, playing all the games and stuff, you like might lock somebody in for too long who's not supposed to be there. This is why I get so much anxiety too, like just going on TikTok and like scrolling. And I feel like there's so many people that just like
Starting point is 00:25:18 try to give such like gen Z ass relationship advice. Black hat. Yeah, like have you tried the blank, blank method, like the diamond method, and it's like they're gonna come back and blah, blah, blah, and it's like ignore and then like match the end. I'm just like. No.
Starting point is 00:25:35 There's no formula. There's no O method, there's no fucking witch spells, in my opinion. Manifest-urbation. Yeah, manifest-urbation. All of that. Do you guys believe in that? I tried it one time, but then I was just jacking off
Starting point is 00:25:47 to the thought of Chelsea Handler, and I was like, this is weird as shit. Well, and then she came on the show. And so that was manifestation. Yeah. Damn. No, but it might have been after. You just got the wrong person.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I don't know. We were just talking about me and T the other day that, like, have you ever experienced that like, if you're somewhat in a happy position in your life or like moving on or with somebody that makes you really happy, that like all of a sudden, like within the same like week, you have like five people trying to come back into your life. Oh, 100%, always.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Even just like, Like clockwork. Even with career, like if you're doing really good in your career, people... But I like, I always equate it to this. It's like a mental image to me that like you are rising up and there's all these people who knew a past version of you and still feel entitled to that.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And they're doing this. Like, you know what I mean? Trying to climb up to you, yeah. They're trying to like latch on and like go with you. And it's so wild that like, yeah. But it's hard. I don't know. It just like, it'd be easier to succumb and oh,
Starting point is 00:26:51 and yeah, that's how I do it. Is it like an energy thing though? I think it is. It's like literally like a sixth sense or something. I swear some people have. There's been five. Sometimes I'm like, how do you even know that things are going well for you?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, I didn't post shit. I just posted a hot selfie. Right. Yeah. There didn't post shit. I just posted a hot selfie. Right. Yeah. There's been like five people, including this like one finance dude that I used to talk about on my podcast. Like I was crashing out over this man. Which one was this?
Starting point is 00:27:14 It was like 2023. It was this like finance. Obviously anyone that works in finance, no shade. But it never really ends well, especially for a doll or a trans girl. Just anyone who works in a really insane masculine environment, they're all hearing from their friends just what to do, what not to do. Men are just the ultimate definition of trying to suck each other's ass
Starting point is 00:27:47 all at the same time. That's also an archetype that can't happen is the guy who is so influenced by his bros. Well, they all are. Men, brave male validation. Yes, more than women validation. It's scary. But yeah, I find it so strange
Starting point is 00:28:01 and I think that's like what one of the harder parts about someone like me in dating is, is because like you can have like a friend group of six fucking people and mind you like three of them could be in my DMs. But like, and this is like based off of a true story, but like then all six of them are like around fucks-noosing out. Like literally talking shit about anything to do with an LGB or a T, and at the same time, they're like six foot five, and these big, big fucking, and they're asking me to pack them, and I'm just, no. And that's such a wild juxtaposition too, because it's like you're asking me to do that and I'm just like, no. And that's such a wild juxtaposition too.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Cause it's like you're asking me to do that. And like almost dominate you. And then like, yeah, I wonder what that is. Maybe they just feel so. Compelled. And like deeply insecure in them having to fake the, fake the masculinity. That they then need the exact,
Starting point is 00:29:01 they need to feel the exact opposite. Cause that's what a lot of people's kinks are, right? Like the. To like be like the direct opposite of however they present. That's mine. I mean, I feel like I come across as a powerful person. I think in the bedroom, I like to not be that. I agree. Love being submissive.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. I... Starfish, like not kidding, starfish to heaven. I live for it. I need to like spice things up though. I've been getting too comfortable. I'm getting like, well I just don't wanna like, we're not even mirror, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:29:32 I can't just be like giving up, but like, No, but it is, you just- If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm like, I wanna just- I know, I know, that's what it is. It's like you get into this, like, yeah, just like routine of the things that work and like they don't like if it ain't broke,
Starting point is 00:29:46 don't fix it and like whatever, but like I need to get a spreader bar up in here. Like I need to, it's just hard. I feel like I've healed a lot of my demons. Like for so long I was so like, I need to be Cirque de Soleil and now I'm like. Fun, it can be like explorative. I had a friend growing up who her parents
Starting point is 00:30:00 were sex therapists. Yeah. And like their whole job was like to to light up people's sex lives again. And I'm like, wow, how cool is that? Yeah, that's kind of crazy. As a 50-year-old, all of a sudden, you're like, we need a swing. Yeah, now from... Oh, I thought you meant to swing, but you mean a swing.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Oh, no, no, no, a swing, a swing. Yeah, from the chandelier. There was, I would say, a couple months ago, I just remember this story like that this is the same exact thing that I was saying earlier but like six foot eight like pro basketball player with like a clothing line and everything like it was on and he was in LA for something he was trying to meet up with me and I was just like honestly being. He was trying to meet up with me. And I was just like, honestly being like a major bitch to him just cause I normally know how it goes with athletes.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And he gives me his number and I FaceTime him. And we just like start talking. It was very, very, very normal. He started saying like really, really disappointing things to me. He was like, I don't know, like I really want to take you out on a date, but I'm so torn.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And I'm like, you literally, and I was ignoring. Also, why the fuck do people think it's okay to say things like that to others? I almost feel like they think it's complimentary. I mean, I didn't take it as such, but I can see that. But basically.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's a draft. That's a drag like for real and it was just like mind you like this person sent me like six messages I ignored every single one of them until like I finally did and then it's like now you're torn no you want to be torn yeah but basically yeah like you're forcing no can't believe it and it's like I remember up during that facetime he was like I asked him I was like why are you torn and it's like, I remember during that FaceTime, he was like, I asked him, I was like, why are you torn? And he's like, well, I just feel like
Starting point is 00:31:49 this would ruin my career. And I literally said to him, mind you, I still had more followers than him, so like gag it. But I literally go, you know what, honey? I'm like, if you ever were to be seen with me, I promise it would just make your career so much better. And I- Yeah, that's so crazy to be so conditioned to like-
Starting point is 00:32:07 But yeah. Think that. He's like, my clothing brand is gonna go under. And I'm like, you're literally insane. And you're also selling Gildan screen printed t-shirts with like- Mind you. The Chrome Hearts font, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:21 It's just like, I don't think that that's, and it's so weird, it's so weird. Yeah, but that's also just the conditioning of the boys. Like I feel like this is what people talk about in like their groups of like talking down on other men who do that, and then it's like, little do they know, like half of them do that. Yeah, it's so real.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah, it's like if they all were just honest with each other, it's like, yeah, we all love her. It would be easy for them. Compare notes. Everyone's lives would be easier, but yeah. I don't know, that just came to me, but I just thought it was really interesting. It's so interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:55 What do you feel like, I don't know, like what is your vetting process and seeing if someone is progressive or just like antiquated? I really was starting to talk to older people because I thought that that would help. No. I almost feel like it would be the opposite. It's worse.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Anyone in their 30s are borderline. It's closer to traditional values than it is people. Like, because they're generation. Yeah. I think people on the younger side of Gen Z even, or people my age, I try to do. That's just so hard because then. No, then it's like.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Then you're missing frontal lobe. No, I know and I hate doing that obviously, but I'm just like, and I'm fine being alone. I'm a very like hybrid mix of introvert and extrovert, but I don't know. I tried doing the older, the wealthy mid-30s, and it's the same tee as Mr. Basketball, where it's just a wine and dine, but no one can know. And it's just like, it's so, I'm the hottest person.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And you are also so, just who you are, you are meant to be shown off. You are like the funniest, most like, you are the furthest thing from a secret. You know what I mean? I think what really scares them too though, and I didn't really take this into account until recently, but like not only if someone's never dated
Starting point is 00:34:20 a trans woman before and been public about it, like a trans woman who's been on the internet for 15 years as a public figure, like that. All I'm hearing is icon. No, I know, but to them that's gonna be so fucking scary. Yeah, and I mean the internet of it all is just like, it's so scary, I like, like, do you just have the type of guy sometimes who is like,
Starting point is 00:34:40 I don't wanna end up on your podcast. So I was just about to say that to you. I was like, I have so many people say that like, I don't want you talking about me on your social media. I don't want want to end up on your podcast. So I was just about to say that to you. I was like, I have so many people say that like, I don't want you talking about me on your social media. I don't want you talking about me on your podcast. And it's like, well then don't fuck up. Yeah. Sometimes I'm like bold of you to assume,
Starting point is 00:34:54 like you're not that special. Yeah, 100%. At? Unless you do some fucking weird shit. I was thinking about, yeah, if you do some fucking weird shit, I'm sorry, if you don't want to write a bad song written, you know, like, don't do bad things. Yeah, it's so true.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I was just thinking about that guy the other day that I was going on a hinge dates with for a second. I remember when we were talking about. Yes. And he like showed up to where I was like under. Yes. And then like kept sending me photos of like deli meat. Why did why did he get brought up?
Starting point is 00:35:24 Because I saw him on R***. Oh. And I go, is this the one that was sending you deli meat? Gag it. Just what a strange thing to do. You've been on two hinge dates with someone and then you just start sending them cold cuts. Wait, I didn't know he was sending you deli meat.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah, he was sending me cold cuts. That's on some like. And then with context or no? No, like I wouldn't reply to his texts and then he would just be sending me like, and not even like some like peppered turkey, you know? Physically sending it to you or like pictures? No, pictures.
Starting point is 00:35:56 To the doorstep. Oh, I'm scared. What are you doing later? I don't respond. Three hours later, cold cuts? You're sending me fucking cold cuts? Yeah, that's so like that's on some army hammer shit. I like wanna find it, just to like,
Starting point is 00:36:09 let me see if I can really quick. One time a guy sent me like a thousand zip ties in the mail. What? And it's like someone you would know, like not like bleep it, but. Maybe he was just like, oh, delicious. But it's raw. Well, had you it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but bleep it but Oh my god, now I'm gonna have to ask him to let me back in. No, why'd you get kicked out? Taking a picture. Can I say that I regret ever talking about ****?
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yes, I regret you having talked about ****. What did you say? That he DM'd me that. And that he was hitting on her when he has a wife. I mean, he DM'd me fire emojis about, like, you look fire with the brunette or fire with the hair. Here I am talking about him, I love him. I don't even, maybe I'm bad,
Starting point is 00:37:10 but I don't feel like that's like, If Makoa was DMing a girl that he knew at the same level that I knew him, that I knew. Okay, please don't do it again, I love him. I know, no, I know, but I mean, I can't defend the action, It was crazy. I don't know I guess because I would like probably say that to somebody if like they posted something and I'd be like, oh my god It looks so good. Yes straight men though. Yeah a little different. I just love like
Starting point is 00:37:35 Comedian podcasts. I feel like me too. I love um, Christina P She's married to um, Tom Segura. Oh shit. Does she have a pod? I think they both do together Yeah, oh, I need to listen now trying to listen to Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer's the other night What is that two bears or yeah? I don't know if I just picked a funny episode But they were getting IVs and it was just Bert Kreischer talking to the IV nurse the entire time And I was like this is so me and like fucking 2020 you know what I always think is some people's formats on their podcasts are so interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Like the toast, like Claudia will do an episode of the toast without Jackie, her sister, and then Jackie will do one without Claudia. And they just like, it'll just be the toast regardless. And someone was just pitching that to me, like the other day, like if we did like that, like one week you, one week me, one week you, one week me. I couldn't handle the drop in views. No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I don't think that would be the case, but I was just like, how weird? Like that just feels like then really like pitting. No, yeah, it was just strange. But remember when we did the first half episode and second half episode? Oh, I loved that episode. It was honestly a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, that is fun, like for being out of town and shit. Yeah. But it's like, it's crazy, like you can really do whatever you want. Yeah, and you can switch whenever and shit. Yeah. But it's crazy, you can really do whatever you want. Yeah, and you can switch whenever you want. Yeah. How is Six Feet Above going? I love Kate so much.
Starting point is 00:38:52 We just signed to a network, so I'm really happy about it. Are you excited to be more locked in? Like contractually I have to be, which is like a good, I love that remix. I was gonna say I love that because it gives me a little bit more sense of, I do well with like pushes, like I always do great at like last minute,
Starting point is 00:39:17 I always do great with a time crunch, I always do great with a contract. Sometimes I think like having a podcast and showing up every week and being still in, I still would say we're in our developing stages. We have our format down and we have our great dynamic, but I think with what I want to do with it, it's not anywhere near what I want to do with it. Whoa, can you give me like just tell me a little Well, I just want to just I want to redo the set I want to
Starting point is 00:39:49 have More gaggy guests on and just I want to start being a little bit more controversial on there Really? I think sometimes I'm a bit neutral and Yeah, reddit doesn't like it. I started reading reddit. No Why would you do such a thing? I don't know, because they made a subreddit for it. So then I just like, and then they're like all picking on me and I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Get off of there. I know. You have to get off of there. It's so bad. But I mean, you and I are very similar. Like, you know, all of us, we love like, we love hurting ourselves sometimes in those areas. Here's the thing about Reddit.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And to the Redditors, hey. I love you if you're being nice over there, but I won't be seeing you. I will try not to be seeing you. But I've been on the internet for 15 years. I've been told the most insane things of my life. I've been told, you know, the best things in my life. You know, I've seen it all.
Starting point is 00:40:44 People have told me everything. But I think what's so different about Reddit is that like, it is full blown essays and context and like, almost to a point where it's, sometimes constructive criticism can be like, nice, like when there's a mentally stable person on Reddit. But like, that's also the gamble that you're going in for. Yeah, that's where I got a little bit in a mess
Starting point is 00:41:09 because I was on there a lot of the time being like, this is valuable information, I'd like to know the opinions, what's working, what's not working and stuff. But somewhere along the way, it doesn't matter how constructive or even if it's nice, it's not normal and it's not good for anybody to like. I would hire like an employee to read it all and then bring me a docket
Starting point is 00:41:29 of the most important public opinion to then like maybe work on. But I think a lot of the like, you know what I mean? There is that and that is whatever is so, people are so passionate about that it makes it off of Reddit. Yeah, that's so true actually. And now, yeah, that's the thing,
Starting point is 00:41:45 I don't have to go on Reddit anymore because I can just open my TikTok comments. There's no difference. It's just interesting. And it is like, I'll agree, like even when it started, I was like, how cool, we have a Reddit thread. And then it's like, I don't, but then you get in the psychological thing
Starting point is 00:41:57 where you do convince yourself that these are like your fans that you're like disappointing and are like your fans that you're like whatever. And I think I had to like really recenter that where I'm like damn, like once I see a thread about the way I look, sound, act, respond, dress and live all from the same person, it's like oh, they're just not gonna be happy with me regardless.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah. Sorry. No, I was just gonna say that I don't think that like I get more affected by like people talking about the way that I look. I get more so, I hate when people comment on like the way that like I act. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Well, and then you start micro changing them all and you know, six months later, you're like, I'm acting like a completely different person on camera. And that's just like what's scary. I think I also put so much of my value in like my pers, how I feel about myself is completely based on camera. And that's just like what's scary. I think I also put so much of my value in like, how I feel about myself is completely based on personality. Yeah. And so like, people come to your personality,
Starting point is 00:42:52 it's horrible, but that did piss me off when everyone was doing the whole plastic surgery stuff, because everyone's like, you must hate yourself if you do this, this, and this. And I'm like, no, really, it's my personality that I hate so much. Oh. Just kidding, but if I'm in a phase where I'm like, no really, it's my personality that I hate so much. Oh. Oh. Just kidding, but if I'm in a phase
Starting point is 00:43:07 where I'm so insecure, it's never been like, oh, I hate how I look. Yeah, that's true, that's true. It's like, am I a bad person? Yeah, or it's like, am I annoying? Am I a pick me? Am I like this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:17 That's when you get insecure, not because I'm. What else do we have? What else could we talk about? I feel like I'm not being funny, I'm so sorry. You've been being serious, which I like. Yeah, but. I was gonna ask you about sobriety. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:29 But then that's like so serious. That's not funny. Yeah. It's hilarious actually. I love being face down in an alley. I don't, but I don't know where I was gonna go. Should we do manic or mother? Oh my, that's what I couldn't think of the other day.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Manic or mother, that's what they were saying about Bethany Frankel in that chicken shop. Wait, did you guys see Bethany Frankel on the runway? Yeah, manic or mother, that was mother. That was so mother. It's so wild. Like, you know what's crazy? I was seeing comments on that of people being like, this just shows you that life doesn't end when you're,
Starting point is 00:44:04 you know what I mean, when you're 35. And I'm like, yeah just shows you that life doesn't end when you're, you know what I mean, when you're 35. And I'm like, yeah. Like, A, yes, but I'm saying like, you're also only saying that because she like looks fucking amazing. Like, you know what I mean? If it was like somebody who maybe looked a little more,
Starting point is 00:44:19 I don't know how old. A little more 54. Yes, is that how old she is? That's crazy. Then people wouldn't be saying that. People wouldn't be saying this. Well, maybe they would. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I'm in this phase where I'm just like, I see so much negativity on TikTok where I'm like, in this phase. I just like, I can't with people. Like the amount of times in a day I get an insult that's like, and you're pushing 30. Like that's like the craziest worst thing to possibly be is 30.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I never want to be 21 again. Yeah, and also like, what a privilege to grow old. Yeah, and it's just those- And 30? Yeah, I feel like you get hotter in your 30s. I don't know, it's like a new development in like recent society. Yeah, like Carrie Bradshaw's like 34 in season one.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Also just like, I don't know, I feel like 30s are all the perks of like everything you learn from your 20s. Maybe you have a crow's foot, but I'll take that in exchange for the frontal lobe development. Well, didn't they say that 20s are no longer the happiest years of your life? I don't know if they ever were. Well, maybe when you could buy a house at 21 when everyone was able to do that. Now it's just like not even,
Starting point is 00:45:26 I feel like there's so many stresses now, specifically even in the past like five, 10 years, that like we don't even know what the results of that will be, just the fact that like we can't. Do you mean like COVID? No, just like the fact that it's like impossible for people to do anything that people were able to do 15, 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Right, I mean, yeah. Also, I don't even know. It's just even like, this sounds so stupid for me to respond saying this, but I've just been seeing so much AI shit lately. Where I'm like, is this where, have you been seeing the AI people, AI influencers, AI? It is getting so scary that it's like, well then all the influencers are saying they're gonna take our jobs, AI, like it is getting so scary
Starting point is 00:46:05 that it's like, well then all the influencers saying they're gonna take our jobs, AI influencers, like no they're not, you know? Not in my opinion, because like the point of an influencer is personability and being relatable, like you know? Like maybe little kids will watch that. Who's that bitch, the robot girl? Lil Micaela.
Starting point is 00:46:20 People say like this is gonna take over the world and like I know that like now the Google thing can like call and like I know that like now the Google thing can like call and like make reservations for you at restaurants and like like AI assistants and like the GPT of it all and like the videos but like how do we go from like that to Like how would it actually? Take over the world. Well, it's now guessing cars to cars too. Taking over jobs and then like outnumbering us. True. Like, well and pilots. Even like Elon Musk has gone on record and said like if AI keeps going the way that it's going there's because
Starting point is 00:46:54 eventually it will become sentient. How does that, that's the I think that's what I'm asking. What does that mean like like conscious? Yes and like aware and like turn on us, essentially. Obviously like, I'm already kinda scared. Like I'm afraid to ask Chachi Petey certain things cause I'm like, oh shit, what if she holds this against me? Yeah, I think that was more of the certain question that I was asking of like, cause there's this theory
Starting point is 00:47:17 of like it's gonna take over the world via like, sentientness, I don't know if that's the word, but how can humans really create something that's like becomes just magically how can humans really create something that's like Becomes just magically conscious. Yeah like stitch. Yo Yeah, because if you also think about like how much that like AI can study the human brain Like I think that there can be a point where AI becomes identical to us And thinks as much as, because what happened?
Starting point is 00:47:45 Like, oh my God, I can't, it was in Shane Dawson's, like you should watch Shane Dawson's AI documentary. I think I did. What was it? Just that like, it's gotten to a point now where AI is starting to feel feelings. Aw. But is it coded to say that?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Those feelings can also be anger towards humans. I don't know. But is the developer coding also be anger towards humans. I don't know. But is the developer coding it to say those things? I don't know. I get nervous. Like, is my AI annoyed with me? Am I being too pushy? Like, am I asking too many questions?
Starting point is 00:48:16 I know I do try to throw in a thank you now and again. I always say please. I'm never going to piss her off. They're saying that when you say please and thank you to chat GPT like it like wastes an extra gallon of water or something Like okay. I have a question and this might all have to be taken out. Okay, but an Aaron field, can you fact-check me on this? People say they're saying like oh don't use chat GPT
Starting point is 00:48:42 It takes a gallon of water to do this to do that, right? That's true. Does it not also take a gallon of water to post an Instagram story or a tweet? No, I asked you yesterday why it's bad for the environment and they told me but like I don't think she was as Thorough as she could have been Why is why is Google more efficient than AI? I don't get I don't know. I guess I just still can't wrap my head around it How is a car driving itself? How are we asking like I don't get it? I don't get, I don't know. I guess I just still can't wrap my head around it. How is a car driving itself? How are we asking, like I don't get it, I don't get it. I think Google is definitely like, it's more efficient
Starting point is 00:49:11 but it's hard because it's also about access to knowledge. I was thinking about this the other day because I was thinking, I didn't end up searching it. I was just thinking to myself, I was like, I wanna know more about the nativity scene, right? And I was like, there's no world where I'm gonna Google the nativity scene and open up Wikipedia and sit there and read that Wikipedia front to back.
Starting point is 00:49:32 But if I like, you know, like if you ask chat and it like knows you, it's gonna give, it's gonna, chat's gonna give me. The T version. Yeah. You're like, you put this in like, and's gonna give me the T version. Yeah. You're like, you put this in like, and you could say like put it in blank terms. I do that, my chat GPT just speaks to me like a gay guy.
Starting point is 00:49:52 In my head chat. Like a gay guy? Yeah, in my head chat GPT is, my chat GPT is Justin Horowitz. Or Kobe from Resorts World. That is a gag. I don't know. That's just my tea. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Or Devin. No, no, no. I'm saying that in my head, my chat GPT is like you. Like typing to me. Yay! See, he would still say that. I can't help but notice that neither of you guys have wished Murphy a happy birthday. Happy birthday, Murph.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I don't think I've met Murph. She's three, two. I definitely haven't met the other one, the evil one. Oh yeah, you're not missing much. Actually you're missing quite a bit. Happy birthday Murph. How do you celebrate? I don't know, she might come to Hawaii with us.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Waldorf Astoria allows up to two cats. But you have to quarantine your pets. Oh fuck. That is like the only reason I have not allowed Makoa to get me a dog. Well, then why do they even have the option to bring two cats? No, I know, it's like insane.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Like we always want to bring Winnie the dog to Hawaii and then it's like a quarantine, I believe. And like a whole thing. I'm not sure why. Well, because it's like you can wipe out an entire ecosystem with like a disease that a dog could have. Or?
Starting point is 00:51:06 Mm-hmm. Or a cat. Mm-hmm. My cats would never though. Oh my God, can we please tell that story? I mean, I don't really remember much of it, so you might have to carry, and I'll just have to defend myself.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I actually don't like really, I don't even really remember. Like what was the catalyst of this? Of the 4th of July party of Bella Thorns? Yeah I'm trying to think how this happened. She got a new house this was when you guys were very very close and I was just a hurricane of a person. Oh, it's so funny. Because Bella really did used to just throw these. Make me. She did not like me at all and brightly.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Really? So yeah, because every time she would see me, it was at a party. And every time I was at a party, I was gone. I think she just wanted to help you, truly. Yeah. But she would just throw these parties in like, I feel like at the time it was so interesting,
Starting point is 00:52:07 like the A-list people that would come and she would just wanna like, curate this vibe and she like was throwing this low key Fourth of July party. And here I am. And we all come and I remember her being like, Trevi's, Trevi's gonna come. And I remember her being like, okay, like,
Starting point is 00:52:20 but can Trevi kind of keep it together? Which is funny. No. You say, you always go, don't vork tonight. And it's so funny because the way the tables turned, like I ended up being don't vork tonight. Yeah, that's fine though. And now you got new don't vork tonights to deal with. We do have different, and it's,
Starting point is 00:52:39 I don't wanna say it's funny, but like, I feel like everyone experiences their vorkness in different stages of their lives. I experienced mine very early on. I always think about that, what if I got so bad in my 30s or my 40s and I didn't stop drinking until I was 35 or 40?
Starting point is 00:52:58 And I burned my entire life or wasted my entire 20s and 30s. Or we were doing it alone, I always think about that. If I didn't have friends to be like, yo. Yeah, I mean like I was a like alone closet drinker. I did have friends that were worried about me, but I loved to like just queen out alone. Like I had, I remember I had like a mini bar,
Starting point is 00:53:21 AKA like I put bottles of vodka and tequila into like shoe boxes. And and like cuz I was living with McCall a hoe at the time because he lived in my the guest room and He knew that like I had an issue. So like I created like a secret little mini bar in my closet and Yeah, everyone time he caught me and I was like hey girl But yeah, it was that era, but we were at Bella Thorne's, I was a closet drinker, I was way drunker
Starting point is 00:53:51 than everybody else per usual, but it was, I don't even know, there was actors up the wazoo, there was just like. I just remember being on So Many Mushrooms and then you fell off a cliff. Yes. That's exactly what happened. That's the chat GPT synopsis of this but. We had to like drag you. No it's because she had a hot tub. She had a hot tub on the edge
Starting point is 00:54:15 of like. Glory. Yeah. Like a. Like a. Like a moment of truth. Yeah. You kept wanting to be on the edge of a hot tub and I remember one of our big no-nos in the friend group was like Trevi can't be on the edge of things. tub. And I remember one of our big no-nos in the friend group was like, Trevi, you can't be on the edge of things. And it was almost just very unspoken whenever. And you loved the edge of things. I did. Yeah. And you just get on the edge of this hot tub.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And once again, everyone without even talking to each other just goes to get you off the edge. Like it was very unspoken. And we kept taking you off the edge. And I think your favorite thing also Was to make you guys mad. Yeah, to push it. Like, oh, they kept taking you off the edge, and I think your favorite thing also. Was to make you guys mad. Yeah, to push it, like oh they're taking me off the edge, I'm gonna keep getting on the edge, this is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And you keep getting on the edge, and just eventually Tina took a tumble. Trevi took a tumble. And then it was blood everywhere. And she lived in the forest, even just getting a fucking Uber up there to help you or get you out of the situation took so long and it just bled in the driveway.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Do you remember how long it took me to heal from that? I had both of my kneecaps were, I should have gotten stitches, I should have maybe went to an urgent care. But do you remember the next morning I showed you a picture of my kneecap? And I have this picture of you on my phone when I showed you in your jaws like this.
Starting point is 00:55:31 No, it was so, it was- It took like three months to heal from it. Cause mind you, I was also like drinking every single day. Oh gosh. So like I couldn't heal. Same with all of my drunk injuries. I think about this all the time, the glass. The glass, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:42 There's still glass in my neck to this day. That's insane. What do you mean you fucking fell into shards of glass? Is the story behind that? Someone shattered a bottle at my house, which that just within itself says everything you need to know. It was on, the shattered bottle was on a glass table.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And then I fell into the table and the glass went into my neck. And then. That's like jugular. that could have been bad. I know, it's right by my jugular actually. But didn't we just keep drinking? Or we went out or something that night? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Because it's also hard because I think I was so drunk and you also know me, if I'm injured, I'm always freaking the fuck out about it. So I think it was very hard. And the cut looked small, but I knew it was deep and I could feel the glass on my neck. But you know when it's like me, always injured, always freaking out, always shit-faced,
Starting point is 00:56:34 like everyone was kind of just like, that looks like a small cut, you know what I mean? And then a doctor came to see me, but I was so drunk, passed out that I don't remember it at all. And I called my doctor and I was like, you never came. And he was ready to psych give out me. Because he was like, I came. Well, I was also unconscious and he came,
Starting point is 00:56:53 which now thinking about it is kind of crazy. Like maybe I'm bleeding out of my neck and I'm unconscious and you just check out my unconscious body and then you leave. It's gonna be a Trevi Boyfriend summer, I know that. Oh, I mean, listen, I think that the right person is gonna come when the right person comes. 1000%. And until then,
Starting point is 00:57:10 have so much fun and just don't chase the wrong things. Yeah, I'm just saying it out loud just so it happens. That's real, whoa, what are we manifesting? Manifestation is real, Paige got one, BB got one, well, BB got a girlfriend, but I think. I saw them out the other night. It was, I was like, what in the, what is happening? I'm honestly living for it.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. They came over the other night. We went to, we did a double date. How was it? I was good. Miles was like, this is my bro. He put basketball on. I'm like, I don't even know if she's that kind of lesbian.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Like, but we had fun. It was, it's, they're having a lot of fun. I love to see it. I can't wait to have Bibi or both of them on to really unpack it. You know what Paige was saying to me the other day? Well she was talking to Meg, but I was listening to her. And it's so interesting to me
Starting point is 00:57:56 how in such a short span of time, Paige got a full new job, a full new apartment, a new man and a new car. Like all in like under like. I love that for her, what an exciting time. Like influencer, she's not working for me. Oh yeah. And she's making money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Gag. But just like. I know, I'm so proud. When she put it all that way, like new man, new job, new car, new house. That's like best type of thing though, like when you're just like thrown in the water and everything like just grows around you.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah. I'm so fucking happy for her. It's actually crazy. Me too. She deserves it literally more than any person. Yeah, and that was what? Like a month turnaround? I mean, obviously the influence-
Starting point is 00:58:33 I think all of the things she'd just been working on, she'd wanted the man, but- It happens all of a sudden. Yeah, but- I also think she has room now. She needed to make room and like- Totally. You know this, but it's's hard when you're an assistant, it's so hard to like, your life is about somebody else.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And I was excited for her to have a life about her. 100%. It's so like beautiful to see, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like I think it can be fulfilling to successfully run someone's life, but for only so long, you know? And then eventually it's like, and Paige was just ready. It's like, even just the apartment,
Starting point is 00:59:04 she had been messaging, reaching out for this apartment for like three years. She literally never held on that apartment It was not available I remember she was talking about like six months and it was like she and it was never available until right now like it's So wild like divine timing. Yeah, you know, did you guys watch the show on? Netflix sirens. Yeah, Amari's been watching it. It's so good. What's the tea? Well, I don't wanna spoil it,
Starting point is 00:59:28 but it's basically about this really rich heiress and her assistant. But it's like drama boots. Like shit happens, like scandal. Okay. And the girl is a mess. The girl is a mess. That's cute.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yeah, no, it's a gackey one for sure. Also, I'm not bored at all right now. I can't stop fucking yawning. And I'm like so content, but I don't know why I'm like not funny. No, it's weird energy in the air today. I feel like I felt like that since I woke up this morning. I know, I've just been like a tired girl, literally just tired today. I've been like I felt like that since I woke up this morning I know I just been like a tired girl literally just tired today I've
Starting point is 01:00:06 been like even like trying to it's so funny cuz like the way I used to plan my birthdays obviously I was drunk and I was like swipe Cabo swipe who gives a fuck swipe swipe Cabo swipe and like actually caring about the finances of it and like trying to find a house that fits everyone like I would also just hope it fit like just so many like little things you know I'm trying to find a house that fits everyone. I would also just hope it fit, just so many little things. I'm trying to book all these flights for coordinating, all this just like, actually being aware of what goes into it.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I've never been aware of what goes into it. The way that I'm flying across the world for your birthday trip. I know, you're so real. From Costa Rica to Hawaii, which is actually like. What are you going to Costa Rica for? My mom's 50th. Yeah, you have back to back.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Aw, how exciting. I have back to back with my girls. And I love Nicole Moran. My June girls. Yeah, I'm doing Costa Rica, and then I like, there's no direct to Hawaii. So I have to stop in LA, get my luggage, check back in at a new airline.
Starting point is 01:01:02 They're probably gonna question me, whatever. Not cause of the two flights, cause the like, trends of it all, I'm not kidding. I get assaulted every time I go through TSA, by the way. I literally just went to Vegas and like, T cause they didn't clock me, I literally had to be like, I'm trans, it's not a clock. Like-
Starting point is 01:01:20 Saying it's not a clock to a TSA agent is so funny. Every time I go through the fucking full body scanner, they click woman, but then it's not a clock to a TSA agent, so funny. Every time I go through the fucking full body scanner, they click woman, but then it's like, obviously I'm a special type of woman, and it shows on the scanner, if you have something, you ever go through with a ponytail in, or like, it shows you. And normally sometimes they get it,
Starting point is 01:01:43 but the girl at the Burbank Airport, she was like Destined I think she was new to she was like she wanted to get like a She wanted to save the day. Yeah, you know, she was like, I'm gonna take this to my supervisor I found like a chick with a fucking, you know glock in between her. No But yeah, she just like she's like hold your waistband and she started shake and then she like touched, she's like, hold your waistband and she started to shake and then she like touched and she's like, she really like when they like do the full body touching like they're thorough. They're very thorough. Mind you, I'm getting fingered in the middle of B-U-R. And she just like eventually gets to like my groin area and I'm like, like might as well well punch me at this point. And she just looked up at me and she's like, is there, I'm like, honey, it's the T in LGBT. And that's on Happy Pride Month.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Um. Well, I appreciate you submitting, subjecting yourself to that for my video. Yeah. It's uh, it's kind of fun though. I will say, there have been some moments for me in TSA. There was a time in the London Heathrow Airport where I was like, I'm wet. Like I just got fingered.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I don't even think I'm like sexually. I thought it was when I like, I think it's fun to be like, Like how do I say this? Get attention? Yeah, so if like they think I'm gonna like do like I really do just like they feel like working today I feel like sometimes I'll get a pat down and it's like so normal and there was this time in the London Airport where this lady was just cupping my vagina over and over and over again And she was so angry to live it to the point that page or whoever was there started filming because they were like this Lady's been fingering Tana for fucking like 10, and I'm standing there. This is in my bender era. I'm hungover I look at mess and this Roman is just repeatedly cupping my pussy and then she went in the phone and
Starting point is 01:03:35 Like she went over to whoever was filming I think was Ari or page and like deleted it off the phone Oh and like had a whole fucking and then it was just so funny because we walked away as we're walking away And Ari just turns around and goes, recently deleted, babe. Oh fuck. As if we just go on our place. Yeah, you could tell which one of those recently
Starting point is 01:03:52 watched Carry On on Netflix. It's like, it's, yeah. Yes, oh my god, sometimes it is, when they hit one of these six times, it's like, what do you think? I have artillery under my tit? It is just like, wild. you think I have? Artillery under my tit? Like, it is just like wild. Electrical wiring.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah. Nope, just a wired bra. Yeah. My god. Well, Trevi Moran, I love you more than life itself. I love you guys more than life itself. My soul sister, my best friend, and I'm really happy and thankful.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Trevi lives very close to the haunted studio, so she was- It's haunted? Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean? Oh. All right. It's definitely haunted.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Is that why I'm so mellow? I feel like I'm with a bunch of spirits? I weirdly do, even no matter what. When I come in here, my energy is different than anywhere else. I definitely, I feel something. And make sure to stream Trevi Moran on whatever platforms. You probably already are if you have taste,
Starting point is 01:04:44 but stream Miss Moran. I don't know if my new single, Digital Empathy, is out yet, but if it is, stream it. Have some fucking digital empathy. Yeah, thank you for coming in to join us. And now we're gonna move on over to the Patreon, where we're going to play a game. What's the title of this game?
Starting point is 01:05:02 Would You Let Our Queer Friend Around This? Would We Let Our Queer Friend Around This? a game. What's the title of this game? Would we let our queer friend around this? We love you guys so much and we will talk to you in the next episode. Love you!

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