Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield - 78: Jelly Roll and Bunnie on their relationship, meeting Taylor Swift, addiction and more - Ep. 78

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

On this episode of the Cancelled Podcast, Bunny and Jelly Roll share insights on sobriety, relationships, and personal growth. Jelly Roll Reflects on touring and mainstream success, as well as going t...o the Grammy’s and meeting Taylor Swift Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @lumedeodorant and get 15% off with promo code CANCELLED at https://LumeDeodorant.com! #lumepod Visit http://theFreezePipe.com and use code TANA for 10% off your entire order. Order today to get free shipping and say goodbye to harsh smoke forever. Tana Mongeau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tanamongeau/ Tana Mongeau Twitter: https://twitter.com/tanamongeau Tana Mongeau TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tanamongeaulol Brooke Schofield Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brookeschofield/ Brooke Schofield Twitter: https://twitter.com/BroookeAmber Brooke Schofield TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@brookeschofield1 Brooke Schofield YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzCVovj7tfqnV2lIkaVk35A To listen to the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/CancelledYouTube Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/CancelledWithTanaMongeau If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: https://bit.ly/CancelledWithTanaMongeau Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 They have the receipts. Get 25% off at ritual.com slash clinical. These statements have not been evaluated by the food and drug administration this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease hello and welcome back to the canceled podcast i am so excited for today we have bunny and jelly roll this is an iconic duo this is really cool yeah i think this is only the second time we've ever done one together. Really?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah. I told you we don't do them together a lot. Like he'll come on my podcast, but he's like a podcast host. So he goes on everybody's podcast. So it's not special anymore. Big podcast. Do you get tired of it? No, no.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Because I kind of have a rule. I only do it with friends. Oh, I love that. Or like people that I'm like super a fan of. We're kind of doing that too. Which is why I was waiting until the camera's rolling to give y'all y'all's flowers. We're huge fans of the pod. I see y'all on my feet
Starting point is 00:02:07 all the time. Are you fucking kidding me? The biggest thing I want to tell you first was I was telling my wife this story that you posted my song Son of a Sinner
Starting point is 00:02:16 like 18 months ago. It is my favorite song ever. It had just came out. It hadn't been out a long time and all you said was I don't know what era it is but I'm glad I'm in this one or something really cool.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And full disclosure I wasn't fully hip to the tana train yet we're still trying to figure out how to pronounce your name i say monagie posted my stuff and uh but but the thank you is because people post your stuff and it means a lot it's always flattering but every now and then somebody posted and you feel a wave and you're like i don't know who the fuck follows this person but i just got a whole new influx and i felt that the day you posted that like so many people showed up on my shit out of nowhere that's how I heard it for the first time too that's really cool I don't know if you know the power you have but even something that simple like especially at that point of where that record was
Starting point is 00:03:14 in my career like it was an extra little push I needed and I appreciate that I listen to it all the time it's such a fucking great song I listen to it on the way here it's funny because my ex-boyfriend actually put me on to your music and I had to like do a whole thing where I had to listen again and not associate your music with him you can't ruin jelly roll for me which ex was it he lives in vegas okay and i dated him like a year ago you guys live in vegas too yeah we have a house out in vegas but you said your house flooded yeah
Starting point is 00:03:40 we're at the fucking grammys and i get this phone call from one of our security that goes and checks our houses out there and fucking he's like bunny something really bad's happening right now and i'm like what the fuck's going on and i'm literally like in here and makeup getting ready for the grammys he's like the house is flooding and i'm like i'm thinking like okay maybe like a room second story down to the fucking kitchen downstairs the entire kitchen pantry everything just flooded is it unlivable now on that side of the house yes it's so funny because it's like you think that you know when shit blows up that life is just gonna be like easy different and it's like that is just such a true testament like you're getting ready for the grammys and your house is fucking
Starting point is 00:04:22 like yeah and he's like so out of it like he's like i don't care just whatever handle it you know and then so finally i just passed it off to mimi i'm like i can't handle this shit i'm like you just fucking handle it for me completely what made you guys want to live in vegas well i grew up in vegas i'm from vegas so i moved to vegas when i was five and grew up there from houston oh okay so here i am looking like a fake fan fucking stupid asshole i didn't know that i thought you guys i thought you grew up in tennessee no that's him oh no i didn't know the west coast girl where in vegas we drafted her yeah i'm playing for the team now i like that though i grew up on the east side really east side yeah we literally are twins did you grow up on the east side though i grew up on the east side really east side yeah we literally are twins
Starting point is 00:05:05 did you grow up on the east side no i grew up in henderson oh okay okay but i mean still slightly privileged i was slumming it with all the in the hood down there with the stage streets that were in the like the names uh what is it like the alphabet streets you know i've noticed that every city has a neighborhood like that. They all name it something different. Alphabet streets. In West Nashville, we call it the nations. Yeah, we lived out there. It's like Tennessee Drive.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Why did we live out there? Parkway. It's like all named after states. Why didn't we move to the hood? Kentucky Court. What did we move to out there? So white trash. That's so crazy, though.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Do you guys think you're going to get a place anywhere else? Or do you like the Nashville and Vegas combo? I mean I love, we're down. I love Austin. Yeah, we're down for whatever. I love Austin. We were just there. I love the culture that Rogan and them have built at the Mothership. It's my favorite bar in America now.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I swear it's the spot. And I was telling her we're heading to Austin this weekend. I think we're spending like six days there. We're going to watch the eclipse out there together. Oh, how cool. So excited. Like the moon. Yeah. I love Tiana.
Starting point is 00:06:11 She's like, dumbass. I mean, that's cool. The last eclipse we were together. This is our second eclipse together. Yeah. That's cute. But they say for relationships to survive eclipses is like profound. No.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah. Oh, I'm scared. No, I'm so excited for you. What's his name? Makoa. Makoa. You guys are so cute. It's so nice.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I feel like I've been saying this all week. You can join us. Right before you guys got here, I was like going through your whole TikTok and I saw your post about how you guys had broken up in 2018 or whatever and i'm like if they can i'm like i've all this false hope now about like breakups that i've had i'm like that's just not the same thing you guys have survived everything though and it's so fucking cool to see how long have you been together uh almost eight nine years now god you guys are creeping on a decade but i love you guys but honestly that's why i'm honest about the hardships that we've had.
Starting point is 00:07:06 It's not to bring stuff up or resurface shit. It's to tell people, dude, real relationships take fucking work, dude. Everything's not fucking butterflies and rainbows all the fucking time. That shit takes work. It's grit. You're going to fight. You're going to hate each other. There's some days we wake up and we don't even want to talk to each other.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I'm like, that's how our relationship is. You guys are soulmates for sure. You guys bring out the best in each other. So how did you guys meet? Oh, dude. Old school. Chippin' Wales. At a bar?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Chippin' Wales? Chippin' Wales. I thought you were going to do the Chippin' Wales. Oh, yeah. Should I do my Chippin' Wales? Yeah, I think so. I always tell people we met at a male strip club. It was a gentleman's club.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah. But it was for fat people. Oh, my God. So it was called Chippin' club. It was a gentleman's club. Yes. But it was for fat people. Oh, my God. It was called Chippin' Whales. It was called Chippin' Whales. And we worked in reverse. We came out ass naked. For $50, we're put on a sock.
Starting point is 00:07:53 You know what I mean? For $100, I'll put on boxers. Honestly, that's a really genius business proposal. I love it. I think we need to open a Chippin' Whales. We'll put stock in it if you guys do it. I'm not fucking kidding. And so, tell me about the first night you met.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Like, tell me. I just want to know. I want to know everything. I was doing a show at a place called the Las Vegas Country Saloon. Have you heard that old spot? It was like an old second level bar on Fremont. Okay. She was there with her dude at the time.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Boo. Yeah. We don't even need to give him notoriety at all. Some dude i was banging it was just an instant connection really yeah it's like instaness and it was such a connection that i had we i knew somebody that knew them and after the show they was like hey man they invited us back to their house and i was like i don't i think that could only be trouble for me you know what i mean i was like i don't think that's a but that's putting me in a compromising place and then
Starting point is 00:08:44 yeah that guy ended up uh going to jail or whatever and she reached out i have a type did you call the cops on him i have a type no but when i met him it was so weird because i'm not his type he's not my type and you always say he's like a swifty or some shit he is he's and he likes little brunettes he likes little brunettes and he likes taylor swift fucking and i'm somewhere in the middle of the spectrum you know but it was like literally i felt like and i've said this forever since we met 2016 like our souls really just recognized each other it was like there you are it was like at peace and it was weird i have a video of the first time i met jay just recording him like a fucking weirdo like i've never done that with anybody ever. Like I've never, I'm, I'm way cooler than that. You know, I would never just like record somebody and be creepy.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And I did. And I have the video and I'm literally next to the dude that I'm with and the dude's looking at me like, you know, that's how I feel with McCullough. That's so funny. I remember I was literally recording him like a freak. Yeah. Like so funny. You can tell that he brings you such a peace. It's so nice. As compared to your other relationships.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Because I don't know a lot of your story. I don't know any of the drama. Despite what anybody thinks, I'm never in the drama, but I'm in the drama somehow. Me. Story of my fucking life. Story of my fucking life. Story of my fucking life. Story of my, I get dragged into everything. I don't understand i i just don't understand it but i
Starting point is 00:10:07 don't know like the drama part of you but i've always kind of followed like just you as a person and like you seem with mokoa you seem so much more at peace yeah and i've been lately it's like i you almost have to like because innately you want to fight that you know what i mean like if you you've always grown up in chaos like for sure inside of you you want to fight that you know what i mean like if you you've always grown up in chaos like for sure inside of you you want to fight that and it's like i i noticed that it's like a battle i was just saying that to them like i want to go fucking be reckless right now and it's like tenant no it's because you're not used to that little saboteur that's in this stuff we're not used to being happy you're not used to when there's a happy moment you think something bad's around the corner so the little saboteur and you wants to get ahead of it that's exactly right that's a
Starting point is 00:10:42 trauma trigger so you're like you know what before this goes south i'm just gonna blow it the fuck up yeah that's exactly how i like even just with touring and everything being so good for us right now it's like i have this feeling that like something horrible's wrong yeah it feels too good to be true but it's not it's not real it's just this is this is your opportunity and your test that the universe is giving you is to break a generational curse for sure like due do the complete opposite of what you normally would do you know you just want to that's so so so true yeah like i was i was posting yesterday talking about how like i just went home and had like a wholesome easter like my best friend's family um adopted me and like i'm so grateful for that and it's like it really does feel like i'm breaking generations of fucked up holidays and trauma and shit and it's like i don't think you
Starting point is 00:11:22 realize how but sorry but just remember that you deserve to be happy that's what i was about to say that is such a hard concept to wrap your head around so when you start feeling happy and you've lived a life that's been so fucked up for so long and as soon as you start to get happy you don't you got to remember that like it takes us we had it took us forever to just understand that we could just we deserved each other the first three years of our relationship were toxic as fuck really literally fought like cats and dogs like we loved each other we knew the love was there but we didn't know how to love each other correctly yeah you know and it was like we'd never seen an example yeah ever you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:11:57 like we'd never seen a healthy relationship or affection in a household or you know what i mean yeah just you grow up around violence and 100 don't see clear affection you don't know how to show it to each other so sometimes you show it in the way that you thinks the right way and it's fucked up yeah it's fucked up because as humans we are literally correcting trauma that we didn't cause you know so fucking our entire lives are trying to fix shit that we didn't fucking do to ourselves but that our parents did to us because they didn't want to fix their trauma you know 100 you got a story too though right your mom was pretty yeah she still is but but you're doing look at you like both of you guys i don't think you guys give yourselves enough credit like one you guys are leading a whole generation of girls
Starting point is 00:12:37 that have eyes on you and you guys are setting such amazing examples for these girls to look up to thank you i don't feel like it all the time i was on the podcast yesterday talking about like how conjoined twins have sex and shit that's the kind of shit people talk literally kitchen table anyway no but i want to know how they have sex like who's looking at did y'all figure it out did you give it a goog dude yeah she knew they they helped us out. I made a TikTok about it because one of the famous ones, the famous set,
Starting point is 00:13:08 the ones who just got married. Yeah. And so I stitched it on TikTok and I was like, someone just take it for the team. Take one for the team. Just let us know. And then 24 hours later,
Starting point is 00:13:16 they tweeted, I think I did this. Okay. I really, I know you did. I'm not a narcissist. He's like, no,
Starting point is 00:13:22 I did this. No, I didn't. But they tweeted all about their yeah like apparently the other one just like listens to podcasts get the fuck out of here but but they like both experience the pleasure at the same time so it's like literally like what she said like what if you're reading a book and all of a sudden you're having an orgasm like like yeah she's just at what point is it just a throuple? Like, it has to have
Starting point is 00:13:45 some element of that. But then, what if the other one wanted to get in a relationship? Then what happens? Why is nobody talking about the dude? Like,
Starting point is 00:13:54 what are you into? We're concerned about his intentions a little. Right, like, what are you into? What's really going on? For sure.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Then we have this whole breakdown of like, we were conjoined twins. It's one. That'd be hot.'s one that would be hot but like two lungs and shit four lungs and like what if the marriage she's like oh my god
Starting point is 00:14:14 let's do anal and the other one's like yo like no that is hilarious I can't like I can't wrap my fucking head around it I need details we need to invite them on the podcast that would be amazing can i be here whenever they're here yes please i'm not even kidding so many questions it's funny because i was just about to like segue back to some normal shit but it just doesn't feel right nobody we're like we're talking about that all those things
Starting point is 00:14:40 yesterday and we're like yeah maybe we aren't setting a very good example no but i mean you guys still have to have fun just because you guys aren't role models for little girls doesn't mean that you guys aren't human and that doesn't mean that we all have a fucking dark sense of humor and are morbid you know like want to know weird shit i think that's it though that's always kind of been my thing is it's like listen i'm not here to be your like betsy ross but like i you know be. If you want the girl next door, go next door. Like I don't say that enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:08 That's good. New catchphrase. I think I stole it from somebody. I think it was on a meme, but literally like seriously, like you guys are role models in your own way. And I think that's what makes you guys perfect to for little girls and like teenage girls and girls in their twenties who are growing up.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And you know, you guys are raising a fucking generation. So are the both of you in like so many ways and all the things that you talk about i didn't know that you didn't drink now and you don't drink no she did and that i did yeah and that was a good time right so i'm in an era right now where i'm not drinking and it is it's such a battle for me how long long? I'm two months sober right now. Almost like a hundred days, I think.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And I've done a lot of stints like that, but I, I can't get to the point where I really want to accept that I like, shouldn't drink forever. Why can't you drink for forever? Do you have a problem where you binge? I think, yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:57 I think I'm very much all or nothing. Yeah. And like, I just want to go crazy balls to the wall. And it's like, I just wish I could take like a blue pill that gives me moderation because I just don't have as much fun. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And it's hard. Yeah. No, I'm a binge drinker too. Yeah. So I just, um, I think the last time I drank, I got drugged. I'm not 100% positive, but I mean, I was on all fours in our bed, fucking puking. I mean, how attractive is that? Naked.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I mean, just butthole in the the air barfing in front of this guy i thought it was hot i was so worried about me okay like literally he had he slept on the floor while i slept on the couch because he was afraid i was gonna stop breathing you know oh my god i just woke up and i had already started my spiritual journey i had stopped doing like blowing pills the year before and i just didn't want to be like my parents. My dad was an alcoholic. My mom was a fucking drug addict, you know, and you just get to a point, I think, in your life where you're like, does this benefit me? Yeah. What am I getting from this? You know, that's exactly how I feel. And I think in every way it doesn't. I just struggle with being able to have as much fun as I feel like I used to have.
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Starting point is 00:18:23 Get 25% off at ritual.com slash clinical. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. So it's taken me a really long time. I went to the bar last night for the first time, Rainbow, with him. I love Rainbow. I had a fucking blast sober. You kind of have to learn how to be human again without
Starting point is 00:18:48 substances i took fucking xanax for so long and let me tell you i was xana nicole all right that's so funny i used to always say that dude really i love that or zany badaducci yes i can just be xana oh my god i'm gonna use that if I ever do Xanax again, but yeah, literally I swear to God, I would fucking take a Xanax and I couldn't do anything without having something in my system, you know, and you have to really get to know yourself again.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And it's a lot of shadow work and it takes time, dude. I've been sober since 2018 off everything. And it's a battle, you know, you're going to, it's just something you're always going to have to fight, but you've got to always know that you're doing it for the right reasons.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You know, she also is like her approach and everybody's different is she doesn't take it like an abstinent model. So she doesn't look at it like she can't drink. Right. Even last night she was like, I have, I didn't have that pod tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I might actually have a drink with you tonight. Yeah. She gives herself that space. She's never done it, but she at least allows herself to think she can and i think it makes her feel more in control of it i honestly even dieting and stuff i have that same mindset where it's like if i feel like i can't have something i end up just going crazy and eating everything whereas if i'm like i could but i won't yeah because we're fucking we're rep we're rebellious by nature so you tell us we can't
Starting point is 00:20:03 do something what are we gonna do we're gonna fucking do it and we're going to do it great. Yeah. You just have to kind of like have that in the back of your brain. Like I can drink, but I'm just choosing not to because I want to be in a better place. It's so true. That's actually such a like awesome mindset. Yeah. I'm still in a place where I'm using like alcohol so much as an aid.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And I know that's horrible, but like a social aid and just like like for touring and stuff, especially I can't do it sober. She amazes me. She can like go out there and have her full personality. I am petrified. What do you think about touring and drinking? Depends on the pace. Y'all tour pretty heavy on the weekends, right? Y'all doing
Starting point is 00:20:38 like three a day, like three shows a weekend, right? We're doing two shows a night usually. I'm saying you're doing three or four days right yeah we did like we were in five day runs yeah my thing is just remember there's an old country phrase that says what don't get you in the wash will get you in the rents right so just remember while you're young enjoy it yeah but it it it it's gonna catch up yeah i'm afraid of that just stay hydrated sleep yeah the good thing is y'all aren't singing.
Starting point is 00:21:06 If you were singing, I'd have a totally different advice because you work that vocal cord so much, I wouldn't want you to lose your voice. Yeah, that's right. That would be my fear. You know what I mean? Is that y'all sauce too much and dehydrate your voice down and get into show number eight of the weekend
Starting point is 00:21:18 and y'all are up there fucking sounding like y'all just left a football game. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. How old are you guys? I'm 25. I'm 27. Yeah, you guys have a little bit of ways to go i'm telling you i feel 80 though no i get that i feel like as women well no actually daddy's going through it too so i'm
Starting point is 00:21:35 older than god i love you guys i'm older than him so i kind of went on my started going on my spiritual journey in my late 30s and i was just like you know i wanted to change everything about my life and he didn't understand it because he was still doing his thug fizzle you know and he was just like come on bitch drink with me and i'm like no you know like but now he's almost 40 and he's like i'm probably as sober as i'm ever gonna be right yeah really yeah as far as like from. You get to a point. Yeah. Because I probably drink. I mean, I used to, man. When we first met, I drank probably 300 some days a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I probably drink 10, 12 a year now. Really? Only celebrations. Like last night, I was just like, I just never would have dreamed I was going to win the best new pop artist. You won best new pop artist last night? I won best new pop artist. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:22:27 That is so amazing. Congratulations. I won both. I won best new country and best new pop. And I'm the first time that's happened. It's just a really big deal.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And I left like, I'm going to the fucking Rainbow Room. You know what I mean? Absolutely. I was like, this is one of those celebratory kind of things. Yes, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And he always ends up in a fucking fountain. Oh my God, really? I haven't posted that clip yet, but yeah. He's in there with his iHeart Awards just swimming around in the fountain. That's incredible, though. If I was a guy, I would do that. It's like, they could easily do that. I feel like the Wicked Witch of the West, I'd be like, I'm melting.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Like all my straight tan and everything. I can't. But I was just saying, like, when you get to a certain certain age and i don't mean to throw the age card out there there you want something different and something inside of you clicks and you want to change your life and i think that's you guys have plenty of time you guys are still really young yeah have fucking fun but be responsible about it as long as your relationship with alcohol is okay yeah yeah don't be so hard on yourself i was just thinking to myself like that really is where i would love to be where it's like when i could celebrate like you know yeah i have a really like
Starting point is 00:23:29 i don't really have an issue with it at all i have like a few drinks a night and i never really take it too far you're just taking the golden she has to like drag me out by my hair i'm like naked and fucking being crazy or something wait what happened with the fucking the person who ran up on stage and Brooke's just chilling and Tana fucking takes off? I don't know if I have like no survival instincts. I think I just haven't. I'm not kidding because she ran for the hills. She left me for
Starting point is 00:23:56 dead. I gotta show you. Can we show him this clip? Yeah, a girl stormed the stage. It's actually we had a few stage stormers, but we've had a few stage stormers but we've had a few really yeah we just have security yeah and one of them was playing call of duty on his ipad like during fire in new orleans completely it wasn't my personal security it was venue security but okay i mean now we've gotten to a point where it's like because we were touring at a much smaller
Starting point is 00:24:20 scale and i think that this time like anything bad that happened was a learning curve for us yeah we didn't understand what this one was going to be like i don't think and we were like what the fuck is this this girl and was in my lap before anyone even got to her and brooke you were so calm why did i thought she was the venue i thought she had to like she's just walking up yeah and then tanner runs off babe look at this watch she sprinted she and it wasn't that i was trying to leave you i swear to god i wouldn't have wanted you to come back for me two friends with trauma that with two different reactions so many people were like uh like psychoanalyzing it like uh fight or flight like freeze yeah literally yeah but i'm like god i would have been dead on the street oh my god i know i couldn't believe that i would never want
Starting point is 00:25:11 anything to happen to you what are your fans like like on tour like like do you have any crazy experiences like how are they crazy like we've always just had like i call it the mighty 300 man i didn't get here by having like the biggest fan base i got here by having the fucking loudest that's i feel the exact same way i want y'all to come to a show man it's like church we would die yeah tour i think we have one yeah i'll let you guys i would love oh wow yeah it's a big deal it's i'm super excited but yeah you'll see it it's like church so it's really more of like a spiritual experience everything you do to me is like spiritual like at the i've watched that speech you did like maybe a thousand times the fentanyl yeah it's the best thing you ever did that was like made me absolutely sob i i love what you do with your platform in reference to addiction because i think i'm so passionate about it too you made me really want
Starting point is 00:26:01 to do more like i've just lost a lot of people to you know things like that and it's it's so true people don't talk about it enough how did you get into that like what did you you definitely didn't just wake up one day at the supreme court you know what's even i didn't know what we were really doing okay they called and uh caa called and they're political people like caa has a political department and they called him like i seen i was like this is weird and they were like would you be willing to go address senate for a bipartisan agreement about offending off fentanyl that's so i don't think i've talked about this this kind of cool but i looked at i didn't even i didn't read the bill until we were already on the way right because in my mind i didn't give a fuck about the bill i thought about it like somebody needs to go
Starting point is 00:26:46 tell these people what's happening in america because i'd like to think they don't know yeah because there's no way they do know that 200 people are dying a day in this country from this and they're sitting up here not fucking talking about it so i kind of went there on some to a degree a little bit of confrontational shit yeah just all some like yo I'm kind of here to I'm the guy to be here to be like yo in case y'all are fucking missing it. Look at that big crow mama. One landed whenever we parked. My wife loves crows.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Really? I call myself the crow mother. Every time I pop up they pop up dude. Really? That's cool as fuck. You need a little crow tattoo for her. She loves crows. I'm petrified. I love ugly animals that people don't like. I do too.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I get that completely. That bled over into your other satellite. This is my pound puppy. I call him my pound puppy. No, my God, you two kill me. Yeah, but they called and it was an opportunity. I didn't want to miss it. I didn't want to miss it.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Do you think you'll do more? Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure, man. We do a lot of stuff in our city anyways for like a lot of rehabs our philanthropic stuff is like millions of dollars a year i built a music program the juvenile i was incarcerated in as a youth that is so cool we're looking we're building a detox center we're looking to build group homes we're doing a lot of charity i would love to if you if you ever need anyone to be a part of that
Starting point is 00:28:05 i would love to you know you were saying you felt called to action when we're on the road um we play so when i tour i do four or five shows a week kind of the way i tour rock and roll style my deal is if i do five shows i do three days where we stop and go speak at a rehab or a jail so over the course of this yeah it's super awesome and we built so many relationships with like women's centers and women's rehab dude if y'all was fucking somewhere and y'all wanted to stop in and say hi they'd lose their shit i would fucking love to we i'm gonna actually like reach out to like i would love to do that that would like be the best we got a whole network it's such a good feeling to give back and i feel like it just it makes sense for us i feel like yeah i think that it's also
Starting point is 00:28:45 like when you come from the walks of life that we have and you start to receive good i don't want to call it guilt but like you you start to feel right like i you know what i mean like i have to go help like it's like you know what i mean like i just you know what it is you i tell people this i do it because i know how it feels yeah like i know what it's like to be in the darkest moment of your life trying to change your life alone yeah and that's what's happening in rehab and jail right now yeah and i don't want to sound like super hyper spiritual but i'm obviously a man of faith yeah but i kind of grew up old school christian in the way of like you show your faith you don't talk about your faith yeah like i cuss i drink i fuck off but at the end of the day i try to do what i thought jesus would do
Starting point is 00:29:29 yeah jesus fucking hung out with whores jesus fucking you know what i mean straight up like here we go no i love it pastors on tiktok are about to get wild and he's canceled again i get canceled by the church every time I talk about it. All the time. That's so sad. How is that even possible? You can't cancel someone
Starting point is 00:29:50 because these preachers need you. To something I don't even go to. I think so many more people who need it are going to fucking listen to people like us than,
Starting point is 00:29:58 you know what I mean, people coming from a place where they're not. Jesus just said, love your neighbor, feed the homeless, and visit people in jail. He had like really,
Starting point is 00:30:04 it was like the most simple rules ever. Yeah. He just said the most simple stuff that was just so real. So like to me, that's just kind of how we live. We go visit jails. We go to rehab. I fucking absolutely love that. Take care of the elderly.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Just do the fucking good person shit. You also get to a point where you've made, you know, something of yourself and you have money to give back. And it gets to a point where it's like what do i do do i fucking hoard all this shit or do i yeah it feels gross give it back to the universe yeah you know so it's like you just want to you just want to give how do you feel about having money anyways does it not feel a little gross just in general it it feels mind-blowing i mean first of all i think that i like will always have a big imposter syndrome towards everything that happens where I'm like, how the fuck did this happen?
Starting point is 00:30:49 You know what I mean? And 100 percent, I think that even just on less of a giving back level, I very much am like that with like my friends and everyone around me. Like if I'm eating, I want everyone else to eat, too, because what the fuck? I'm going to sit here and have all this. That's no fun. Yeah, that's like, you know what I mean? Like, she's amazing about that, too.
Starting point is 00:31:04 She's put everybody on, you know, like all of us came from her you know what i mean but i mean you deserve everything you have well i don't want you to think that but like that's what you do that's what we've done too yeah giving heart and a giving spirit i love everything that you post about his daughter and who's now your daughter like you know i cry frequently because it's like obviously i was texting you about this cry frequently because it's like, obviously I was texting you about this the other day. It's like, I feel like we might've wished we had that
Starting point is 00:31:29 growing up. So to get to do that is probably the most fulfilling thing in the world. Oh yeah. And it's like, I just thought that what you did for her with her birthday shoot recently,
Starting point is 00:31:37 like was so fucking cute. I don't know if you saw that, but it was their daughter's birthday and she just like did this whole photo shoot for her, like got her glam. Oh, and it like had me in tears. I was like, it must be so amazing for you to see that too. Cause when you had her like this, I don't know if you pictured this.
Starting point is 00:31:55 No, no. Well, I didn't. This hooker coming in and taking over. You are me. I thank God because if I, if I didn't have Bunnyman, that poor kid would be running around in sweatpants and hoodies she dressed like me yeah you know what i mean i'd be that dad that just wouldn't know what to do so i'd be like here's some jordans and some jeans and a hoodie
Starting point is 00:32:13 running around a tennessee volunteer shit yeah it's been such a saving grace and their relationship has been so special because i've got to watch it really blossom. And I had to watch them, but each other's heads a little bit, figure out who each other were and kind of, you know, kind of get through some real, real stuff together. And it's helped me as a single father,
Starting point is 00:32:34 because I hate that word because I have bunny, because I don't have to get involved in none of the woman stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm always fucking out of that. So come to me and I'll be like, why are you even coming to me about this this is totally sometimes i do it just a weird amount i'm like hey you want to know what the kid's doing it's so hard though i grew up like basically with only my grandpa and i'm like oh my gosh like when i started my period and stuff i'm
Starting point is 00:33:00 like oh yeah any poor thing probably tried the best he could he was traumatized but luckily like it was like right at the time because traumatized no oh my god he had no idea what to do with me at all i'm like i'm depressed he's like okay he's like here's a shot of bourbon honey right but i had like so my grandma has dementia and she like, but she, it was kind of like slowly onset. So she was like just slowly starting to get like a little strange. And she had bought me like all the things like tampons, pads, everything beforehand. So it was already at my house. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:33:35 She stopped me up. Yeah, she stopped me up. That's real. I love that. I know. That is great. How old is your daughter now? How old is she?
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Starting point is 00:34:52 to speak to an advisor free of charge. To be 16 again, does it scare you at all? Like boys? Like what is that? What is that like too? And it's like jelly rolls your dad.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Like it's just fucking. I'd be terrified of you as like if I like came home. I know. He's fun, dad. He's's fine everybody's scared of me i'm scared of buddy i walk that house dinner even if she said where's your wife be 16 and it's you know it's been a journey i people don't you know realize how hard it is to come into a family and to try to take on a mother role which i never have tried to take on the mother role yeah one i've always been like i'm just bunny
Starting point is 00:35:39 and you know i'm here for you if you need me. I don't ever try to like force anything on her because I had a crazy stepmom who fucking always tried to force shit on me. And it was just so uncomfortable. Yeah. So I've tried to kind of like redo everything that she that my stepmom did to me. And I think the sweetest thing is that she called me today and she was like, mommy. And I was like, oh, like literally like I got like this lump in my throat and I'm like, but I can't show it to her, you know? So I'm just like just holding it in. And she's like, look at my prom dress.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And I'm just like, oh, my God. Yeah. Like it makes me want to tear up. Now, I never thought I'd be such a fucking pussy for somebody. No, but I love it. Literally. Pussy describing like. Literally.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Literally. I can't. I feel like I'm looking in a mirror. You're my daughter. Everybody. Every time I post something, I thought this time I post something I thought this was Tana I think that's what drew me to you that's just my type of person
Starting point is 00:36:31 it's so great it's funny because I at one point I was in a relationship with a guy who had a bunch of face tattoos like same cross situation whole thing and everyone would call us bunny and jelly except he's killing it. It's so nice to you.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I think I know what you're talking about. We won't mention names. That's the one. I love that I'm genuinely lost. Yeah, he has no idea. I love that you were willing to come on because I know that it's not like he's watching. We keep up with the girl stuff
Starting point is 00:37:06 but I know you're not just tuning in to the cancel y'all's clips come on my FYI a lot though really that's so crazy I can't imagine Jelly Rolls for you having anything to do with us and it's funny y'all are fucking hilarious he pays attention to pop culture and you guys are pop culture
Starting point is 00:37:22 I'm telling I mean I'm in it Tana like y'all's fans I can name three or four times that somebody posted me that you feel like it hits like new people are in your comments there's a new wave that happened the day you posted that record i didn't know who you were i ran upstairs all excited oh my god i was like yo tanamoniki my wife's like that's not how you say it i don't think that's how you say her last name we really were saying yesterday because it's like that's not how you say it I don't know how to say it either I don't think that's how you say her last name we really were saying yesterday because it's like it's the name of the podcast
Starting point is 00:37:50 first of all just being cancelled I think automatically steers away 70% of anyone in mainstream media that's gonna come on so it like means so fucking like you're winning iHeartRadio awards last night and you're coming on it means so much we support the underdogs and you're not an underdog anymore but we support you know the people that i just appreciate it so much have
Starting point is 00:38:09 to struggle how does it do you how did you feel like at the grammys like how do you feel like i like winning all of these awards and being in the mainstream i saw a tiktok the other day that was people conspiring if you are in the illuminati now was like, there's no fucking, no fucking tired of this shit. I want to be in the Illuminati. He thinks it's hilarious. I get mad because I'm like, he has worked his ass off for almost 20 fucking years.
Starting point is 00:38:33 You know, like he didn't just pop up on the scene. People are like, he shot to fame so fast and it's like, no dude, like he's been really
Starting point is 00:38:39 planting these seeds for fucking 20 years, you know? When I partnered with a record label in 2021 22 my youtube channel is already at 1.6 or 7 billion views we were already selling out 5 000 seat theaters damn everywhere in america almost you know what i mean so it wasn't like it was
Starting point is 00:38:58 just such an underground cult thing yeah which is why i relate to what y'all do though when you talked about your fans being that way y'allall seen this, right? A lot of people had a little hit podcast. They went out and toured it one time in comedy clubs and couldn't go back again because it was a novelty. I seen her. I just wanted to see the person. They didn't want to be entertained by the person. They just wanted to say, okay, I went.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I seen that person. I checked the list. Why would I go see them again? And y'all built an entire touring business. It's just hard to do. It's so cool to watch. It is like so different. And I related to it on the music end because that's what we did.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yeah. We built an old school hard ticket touring business. You know what I mean? So by the time this shit popped, but I wasn't even, I just, this is what I think about the Illuminati. One,
Starting point is 00:39:42 six years ago, I'd have said, fuck yeah, I wouldn't hesitate. Everybody's, you know what I mean? the Illuminati. One, six years ago, I'd have said, fuck yeah. I wouldn't hesitate. You know what I mean? It was like a no-brainer. But I know this might sound cliche, but I think that people understand that you don't just make deals with the devil. I made a deal with the highest authority.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And I said, if you ever give us this opportunity, we'll share our platform and make sure that your name is spoken. You know what I mean? Like, how can you say i'm a luminati i'm the only person at the i heart radio awards last night that said jesus on stage that's crazy i'm the only artist at the cmt country awards last year that said the name god i'm the only artist at the cma awards last year that said thank god i'm the only artist that said at country music by the way yeah that's where jesus is still socially accepted you know what I mean it's like that's why I laugh at it I love my wife though she's my greatest defender I'm a pit bull over my husband
Starting point is 00:40:32 people say shit about me and I get tickled I think it's so funny and she's already dissed them on tiktok called out their mom you can say what you want about me don't talk about daddy I'm going upstairs excited like did you see where such and such said something he's like yeah i ripped him a new asshole i'm all like oh that's fucking gold i was like we
Starting point is 00:40:53 should be mad you guys are my fucking relationship goals until the day i die i'm just so protective of him and his heart because he is such a special human dude like he's i always tell everybody he's an earth angel i've said it a million times and he we don't deserve dude like he's i always tell everybody he's an earth angel i've said it a million times and he we don't deserve him like he really is what you see is what you get with him and it's not a fucking show you know like he really is make me cry and i'm hung over come on don't start the crying shit no but it's real and so that's why when anybody comes for him like the whole illuminati thing started from a video that he didn't release from a song that he did with fucking Coe Wetzel.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah. What is it? Cocaine song that he never released. And the reason why he won't release it is because why, baby? I don't want people to feel like I'm promoting cocaine use. It's fair. Yeah. It's like a responsibility I have now where I feel really connected. My music has helped so many people get off cocaine that I feel like I would be doing them an injustice to come back and write a song that promoted it.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Even though when I wrote the song, I was in my cocaine era. Yeah. It was super honest. And I keep everybody tries to tell all those. I have a ton of records like that from that era that I want to drop. And maybe one day I'll do like a side project like a theme project but i just never wanted to promote so that's why i get so irate because they took a picture that hayley had done the makeup on and was like he's in the fucking black eye club and i'm like no actually and he's not putting out the
Starting point is 00:42:20 there's no video that he really shot and i'm like no actually he's not putting it out for fucking reasons because he's a good fucking human yeah you know but i can't keep my wife loves this song by the way she's asked me to put it out once a month she's like i'll send it to you i need it i really do i promise what is that i keep seeing all the black eye stuff it's is it that was yesterday i never knew what it was it's like but it also has to do with like sexual predators and shit like that too which is another reason why i get offended because i'm like yeah what what is it what like i don't know i saw someone saying because dixie d'amelio has one they're like oh there she goes like she's a fucking shiner she said she fell into a door i'm hoping to her okay yeah it's horrible but i'm
Starting point is 00:42:59 like i didn't know what it was and i started reading the comments and everyone's like yeah you when you have a black guy i guess yeah Yeah don't ever get work done. I got work done and they were like Bunny joined the black eye club too after my nose job. Two black eyes. Oh those will resurface later on. They'll say you got in the Illuminati. Right. I hope so. I felt like
Starting point is 00:43:18 to me that was kind of like the sign of success. I was just going to say that. I'm like no one's accusing me of being an Illuminati. To me that was like yay. They Illuminati. They will now, Brooke. They will now. Maybe soon. It's fucking so wild, though. It is.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I mean, I just, I really appreciate everything that you just said. And I love, you are just so on the side of God. So it is crazy to me that people are, you know what I mean? And I'm so honest about it. It's like, I don't, I guess I thought I would miss the Illuminati talk just because of the fucking cross on my face alone. Maybe, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:47 I thought you were trying to throw them off. Yeah. That's what they say. You guys will fucking come. Have you had any, and you don't have to share this. It's just my favorite fucking question. You can tell me to shut the fuck up immediately,
Starting point is 00:43:59 but have you met any celebrities that in this? Cause obviously right now it's like all the mainstream stuff. You know what I mean? Have you met any celebrities that in this? Because obviously right now it's like all the mainstream stuff. You know what I mean? Have you met any celebrities that you feel like either a you just had a bad interaction with or be like they were giving Illuminati or Darkseid? I genuinely don't think there's a fucking Illuminati. I don't. I was going to say, do you guys believe in the Illuminati? And I'm a conspiracy theorist.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah. I fucking believed all that shit before we got into this whole industry. Yeah. You know, like, I don't believe it, but nobody trying to touch my butt. Maybe I'm not their type. I will tell this story and I'll probably get in trouble for it. And it's not not harping on it because it's a hot topic. But I did Kimmel. OK. The day Diddy did Kimmel. Did you? Oh, yeah, that's right. And it's the first time.
Starting point is 00:44:46 This is the first time in my career ever where they said, do you want to meet such and such? And I said, yeah. And I started walking that way. And as I was getting down the hallway, this is a true story. I said, nah. Better not. And went and got back in the car.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Really? Swear. I don't know what it was. And I made a joke at first. I was like, i don't know what it was and i made a joke at first i was like who don't want to meet the guy that got tupac killed and nobody thought that was funny so i was like oh that's a bomb maybe i shouldn't go do this anyway so i was already skeptical because i thought i had a funny one and they were like i probably wouldn't say that you know what i mean yeah and we were walking i was just like i don't know it's just something
Starting point is 00:45:20 like very seldom does things rub me in a way where i was like i don't even know if that's a picture i want to have yeah to exist because i've been in situations where and i won't say this this stuff where i've like ended up in pictures with people i didn't want to be with just like just because you know motherfuckers walk a carpet around the same time yeah and they'll be like let's get it like hey y'all get together and you're like yo i don't really even know who this human is kind of you know what i'm saying so that's like she said i've never really felt like the illuminati thing or the yeah and i've negotiated big deals and uh stuff so i mean i've been around it because i i came in because i came in independent we still own our masters yeah that's amazing all of our publishing we own the lion's share
Starting point is 00:46:02 of our streaming revenue he's rewriting history for independent artists which i fucking love to see i used to love like even like chance the rapper like people who like yeah i love to see that so much even mac lamore just anytime i see somebody we're taking uh have y'all heard of alexandra k you gotta check her out she's a country artist she is so awesome and me and my wife were picking our our tour people we took this guy named warren ziders who y'all love haley's trying to bang him yeah haley haley just loves some warren she's already pre-shooting her shot before it starts but uh and we took this girl named
Starting point is 00:46:39 alexandra k because she's independent yeah and she's selling like a thousand tickets by herself which y'all know this is indies that's fucking a lot of tickets to sell dude that's a real business yeah it is and because she's doing an independent me and my that was the it was it's the only one we totally agreed on together we were like yo her take the independent girl yeah just because like i want to do anything i can to get because i remember how dude i never got a good look when i was an independent yeah you know what i mean so it's like try to get as many of those things because i think hit the music business is fixing to rewrite itself I don't say this to sound cocky but that deal that Meg Thee Stallion announced it was like the groundbreaking deal
Starting point is 00:47:13 y'all remember when they announced this big partnership with her and Warner Brothers recently oh yes okay I signed that same deal four years ago you know what I mean like it's like I just didn't make a headline about it yes you know which i'm glad she did because it shows people that it can be done and that's what i want artists to see i think artists should own art yeah i don't think anybody should ever own the fucking canceled podcast but y'all ever i love that any circumstance whether abc calls you or not yeah y'all built this you did we had a situation before this season where we had to like get out of some murky water
Starting point is 00:47:45 and we realized like what we wanted to do and i fully fully fucking agree it's it's just the feeling is so much better knowing that you own yourself like the fact that taylor ever had to do taylor's version and stuff like that like the fact that that's like it really is so crazy she's a boss though for how she handled that yeah she handled it with grace but the other side of it is the sadder part is why her label wouldn't sell her her masters yeah why that's the well like the scooter i don't know why but that's the question is like why would you not you sold them anyways yeah she offered market money yeah it's not like she tried to get it cheap she said what's the market yeah okay that's what market's willing to pay i'll pay it like it just it becomes so spiteful and vindictive that's the thing it seems malicious and you're playing with my soul like i don't i like dude
Starting point is 00:48:31 i'll get emotional like i write my soul in these songs like i every dark thought i've ever had every bad experience i've ever seen every person that's ever cried on my arms at a show because they lost somebody they loved a drug addiction i'm writing this is this is like, and I'm sure that's how Taylor feel. That's how I feel about these words. You know what I mean? It's like, I feel like my wife, her podcast is her legacy that my, our daughter's daughter will get to find out how great of a human she was because of 10 years of the dumb blonde episodes. That made me want to cry. That actually made me almost cry.
Starting point is 00:49:04 That's like, that's so so beautiful and it's so true this is y'all's legacy and the cool thing is y'all are even cooler because y'all got to do it so young y'all will move on to have families the whole world will watch and grow with y'all and y'all will be able to go back and archive you remember that time that fucking tana left brooke to get killed on stage it's funny people ask all the time if i journal or like have a diary or whatever and I'm like I we record literally every single week like what happened this week this is what like is going on in our lives and it's so cool because we're gonna be able to watch that back in like 10 years time be like oh my god you remember that guy like 100% I think that I my frontal lobe had to have just
Starting point is 00:49:40 fully developed because I just started looking at this shit like that yeah like I used to just be like oh silly little podcast. Who cares? Like or freak out about my digital footprint. But like over time, I think it's it's really fucking cool. When you want to bet on sports, play it on a field or ice or course. Bet Rivers is the place. Over under money lines.
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Starting point is 00:50:21 You have created a legacy just even before the podcast. I mean, your name is a brand. It's supposed to be. an advisor free of charge you have created a legacy just even before the podcast i mean your name is a brand so yeah no but it's real and you gotta you need to realize how special you are i really relate to you on so many things in the regard of saying like i could go sell all these tickets but never was getting the mainstream recognition and for so long I think I put way too much worth into that like it's like this is the first time in my life I've been signed to an agency or mainstream people care about what we're doing and whatever and it like now it's like I'm like fuck that like I've been doing it for all these years I can finally like understand that but for so long it's like I
Starting point is 00:50:58 was so shunned by like 80% of the other influencers or 80% of the industry or whatever that it like fucked with your head a little bit. And I look back and it's like, you were fucking 17 making a life for yourself and like you should be able to recognize that. It is. Every single person who comes to the meet and greet, like they're crying, like saying she raised them.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Literally. And it's like, it's so cool to see too because I'm like newer to it too. I like, I didn't even get to see a lot of that. So it's like special for me to see them and they're like i've been watching you for 10 years i'm like yeah like wow no and you are mainstream now that's the cool part is like to me this podcast is a mainstream podcast like thank you what i know i might say it one more time for the people i don't want to get in trouble for this. I'll try not to say it fucked up. I would pick this podcast over 75% of television programming.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah. Like if I'm on an album cycle, this is one of those things that was in my calendar because the wife put it in there. And even my publicist was like, good luck. And she hates when I do podcasts. Cause I always say shit to get me in trouble.
Starting point is 00:52:08 That's fucking awesome. Like that means the world to us and i just appreciate it so motherfucking much we just want to give you guys your flowers man because you guys deserve it we talked about that last night we really just came to give y'all flowers we were like we feel like nobody praises y'all enough to y'all really you guys are really working your asses off you're doing it together man because there's another famous quote my cousin says all the time uh life's not about what you do it's who you do it with and y'all are getting to do it with your friends and all boats are floating it is same with y'all it's like it is so nice to it's funny i was sitting here with her talking and i was like it's like we have a trauma bond, but just without the trauma. I was like, that's literally just a bond. What is it? Just having someone to share it with. It's healthy, Tana.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I was like, this is crazy. I know that's the thing. For some reason, we have to associate trauma with it somehow. That's what I was going to say. I love it that we're all so unhealthy. It was like, we have a trauma bond without trauma. And then you were like, we just got a bond. We can be bonded like normal people, too.
Starting point is 00:53:04 That's right. It felt so crazy to me. And i love that you guys have that and it's yeah it is it is interesting now getting all the recognition even just from like other influencers and stuff i'm like you fucking hated me until you know what i mean like yeah do you feel that way ever like with these celebrities or like people where it's like oh now you wanna no now you wanna to. No, now you want to. I get that a lot with the podcast now. Yeah. Yeah, she does.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And I'm the opposite. I'm just so fucking. I think that I look at the message I'm trying to bring and anybody who's willing to get behind it in any way is helping what I know is for the greater cause. So I'm just like, if you fucked me, I don't care. Yeah, it doesn't matter how you got here yeah it's like i'm glad i'm glad you're here now and it's still i still be talking about the grammys i still feel like the fish out of water a little bit really because i mean i mean dude tell me more about that we're obviously a couple of yellow ducks in a white duck pond you
Starting point is 00:53:57 know he's fucking we don't got a quack or flap for people to recognize and we're standing in the back and i'm looking around and it was the coolest thing where the way they we were at the grammys but for the safety of being honest barely i mean the the table behind us was general admission we were as far as you could go it's funny because every time i saw you on the screen i i was screaming seeing you guys like that's all i wanted to see because it feels like it's for the people like seeing you guys at the grammys i'm like fuck yes like i don't you know what i mean i'm like that i need that clip that's how i feel listen there's have you ever seen a movie called cinderella man no yes i thought about yes i thought about the boxing movie right yes i
Starting point is 00:54:42 thought about naming my album this but not enough people got the reference, but it's this old retired boxer in the great depression that goes back for a title run because he can't afford to feed his family. There's a moment where it's so the saddest scene I've ever seen in a movie where they're eating an imaginary sandwich because they couldn't afford any food that night. And this father's like coaching him through. It's like such a, just a dramatic scene.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And he goes and ends up winning a title at like 40 something years old it was like biggest underdog in boxing history to win a title and there's a moment in the movie where he's running through and all these like uh layman's layman workers are like cheering for him he's like he looks at his manager because he's so confused he goes why are they cheering for me he goes because you're fighting for them wow you have to see it's such a it's a really movie. He made me watch it the other night. I'm going to watch it. I literally get teary-eyed saying that line because it's like, that's who we are.
Starting point is 00:55:31 We're fighting for them. You know what I mean? So when you see that, I'm like, that's how I feel when I'm there. I'm looking around like, yo, I'm here. Me and my wife are here representing an entire group of people that have never been properly represented
Starting point is 00:55:42 at critical mass, right? On the biggest platform of the whole world and they're cutting cameras to me after the biggest celebrities on earth entire group of people that have never been properly represented at critical mass right on the biggest platform of the whole world and they're cutting cameras to me after the biggest celebrities on earth and they know that i'm here on some fucking wild shit you know what i'm saying that is so awesome i thought it was so funny because after the grammys we were made into a gif and i was like is that how you pronounce it a gif i thought it was a gif oh yeah i think and i was like babe we're finally a gif like i was so happy think but i also thought she was monogamous and i was like babe we're finally a gif like i was so happy about it i was like we made it you know that was like
Starting point is 00:56:10 after the grammys it was so funny i really like the way i feel seeing the two of you anywhere and just succeeding and representing is i don't think i've ever felt it about any other duo any other celebrities any like it i don't know i almost just cried listening to you because it's special to see people that you relate to i feel like that's what made me gravitate toward you also it's like i don't want to see i mean of course i want to see everybody be successful but i want to see people who deserve it be successful like how did you guys meet we don't know at a bar honestly at a um chip and whales Chip and Wales. Yeah. I love that place. What a cobbler.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I love that place. I swear to God, it's like, to be fair, I was on the Zannies and I was in a dark place. We just like basically just ended up together all the time. Yeah, one day she was just there. And I don't remember. I love that. It was just special to me. One day she was just there.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And I swear it was like even with this podcast I I thought about everyone in my life and who I wanted to do it with and it was just like I knew it was her and I saw this and it's beautiful and it's like I'm just seeing everyone like freak out over her yeah you're becoming the ick all right now I'm like no but it makes me like because I've just always known and it like makes me so fucking happy you know i love it i keep seeing tiktoks on my for you page and it can be the most random shit it's like a fucking cat like eating some shit and all the comments top comments are brook reposted and i'm like yeah no i get so much shit on my fyp about her too and it's just like it's really cute to see that you know they're like brook's the new it girl and they just love it
Starting point is 00:57:44 and then they're seeing you guys together i think you know everybody wants a best friend duo and you got we got a brunette and a blonde and it's like an inseparable literally it checks all the boxes and it's just like you know you guys are like i said you're just representing i just love to see good real people yeah yeah for sure like you were saying we show the toxic parts of our relationship too and i think that that people yeah it speaks to people because i feel like well the clips of y'all that come across my fyp is y'all vulnerability is y'all superpower it's kind of what ours is is like our um that's why i love you guys makes conversation so much cooler if you just come in and lay the vulnerable stuff out first you kind of let the room relax and man you conversations start getting meaningful 100 you know what i mean it's just so different when it starts like
Starting point is 00:58:29 as we've gotten older this is when i knew i was getting old when i started searching and craving meaningful conversations yeah 100 for sure yeah where it's you and vulnerability is the fastest way there yeah i've always felt that way i feel like i go on a lot of podcasts where the topics of conversation are just like so how much did you make on only fans yeah i'm like oh come on not this again like it's it is nice i feel like when we sit on this couch like we are down to fucking put it all out there with people without people whatever it is and it's like we've got nothing to lose i'll talk about anything i will say though back to the grammys they uh i felt so loved though for us
Starting point is 00:59:05 to be as far away as we was yeah i mean taylor came over to talk to us jay-z came over and talked to us really it was really cool what did they say some of the jay was just like yo man i'm hip i knew he was hip but he was just just showering me with love telling me he loves the way i'm doing it you know what i mean uh taylor taylor literally made it a point to come over to just say hey. Did you freak out? Yeah, for sure. He was fucking. I would lose my mind.
Starting point is 00:59:32 That makes me giddy to even think about. I got so nervous I didn't remember the name of the park. But that's how nervous I was. But she's from a little town called Hendersonville, which is right outside of Nashville. It's where my daughter lived with her mother before we got custody of her. And Taylor Swift built a, what do they call it? She was just a park, right?
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah. A playground. Yeah. A huge playground for kids out there. I'm like, I'm not from Tennessee. And I took my kid there for her whole younger life. You know what I mean? Really?
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah. Oh, that's special because now. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm telling her that. And she's like, really? And I was like, yeah, the one in, fuck, I couldn't remember the name of the city and i was just sitting there like it but it was really cool but it was cool to me that they even last night sizzle i i was
Starting point is 01:00:11 certain i was so i love the fuck out of sizzle and i said she's so fucking pretty dude she's perfect i was just like bro so i just kind of like politely she's going by a big entourage they're clear secured i mean you know it's fucking sizzle it's a big deal so i'm kind of like politely, she's going by a big entourage. They're clear, secure. I mean, you know, it's fucking SZA. It's a big deal. So I'm kind of like a fan. I'm kind of jumping in out of the shadows. Like, hey, SZA, my name's Jelly. I wanted to say hi. And she stopped.
Starting point is 01:00:31 And I told my wife, she poured a word into me, man. I mean, man, she just like prophesied it over me. She was like, you don't know how much we're cheering for you. You don't know how much you mean to the world, how much you're changing people. I was sitting there like getting teary eyed. And she's like, she's putting her finger on my chest every time going god got a plan for you i heard your wife's the greatest human ever i want to meet her i go tell my wife
Starting point is 01:00:52 she don't believe me i'm like yo i'm like sZA fucks with us she wants to meet you and i'm like we should go over there right now and she was like uh-uh i was like i'm telling you dude sZA because you know you know bunny thinks sometimes this is where I have to gas her up too. Poor mama. Her imposter syndrome is, I'll meet people and be like, yo, they fuck with you. And she'll think that I'm just being like the husband, keeping the wife involved.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I'm like, nah, bitch. Like, they fuck with you. And then she sees SZA and does a fuck with me. You can like feel your love through a screen unlike anyone ever. I really do mean that. And you're just real as fuck. You know what's funny is we were sitting here before and obviously just discussing what we wanted to talk to you about. through a screen unlike anyone ever i really do mean that and you're just real as fuck you know
Starting point is 01:01:25 what's funny is we were sitting here before and obviously just discussing what we wanted to talk to you about and we were talking about all this meaningful stuff we want to talk to you about but then brooks like i'm like i heard she dermaplained her pussy yeah i'm like i want to hear about her cutting her vagina off with the dermaplaning tool well now i just have to know before i continue my praises but i just in my head i was like fuck i love her so much how did we get there so oh god that's a canceled topic right there i literally need to tell him the story i was like when we when i told it on the podcast i was like this is gonna fucking go viral what y'all don't know is you know when you hear a noise it makes you go like this yeah every time she talks about this i'm just like i told them after i did it i'm clenching everything
Starting point is 01:02:03 right now so just pretty and it's just hard to believe she just acts all Jim Duggan. You know what I'm saying? It's just crazy. So I inspect my hootenanny all the time, as every girl should, right? Yeah, absolutely. You know, like you got to get in the mirror. You got to spread your leg. Three times mirror.
Starting point is 01:02:18 You got to see what angles look good and what don't, you know, because, you know, we just want to look good for our man. Yeah. Of course. And anyways, I had a labiaplasty done in win baby right before i got with you right yeah you were stitched up i've never told this story yeah so that's crazy you know we we really talk a lot about outies on this podcast yeah yeah so i had an outie and it was cute she had like little butterfly wings but i just didn't i just didn't like the aesthetic it wasn't for me girls who
Starting point is 01:02:42 have outies i love them on them and they look so good on them but just on me i just didn't want it so i ended up getting a labiaplasty and it was actually right whenever jay and i first got together and i remember i just wanted to have sex with him with the stitches and he ended up ripping one of my stitches oh no so i had like a little lip that hung and i had to you know like oh my it back in there to heal together it was the whole thing but anyways it's so uncomfortable I knew this was going to happen here today the transition of this conversation in just five minutes is so crazy
Starting point is 01:03:14 I love this shit I was inspecting one night as one does and you know like a scar tissue when it grows out I've never really had scar tissue but like like on my lip, like actual lip, not the fucking the skin ones, but the vagina lips. Yeah. Thank you for the detail.
Starting point is 01:03:34 It just literally came out like a little, it looked like a little piece of rice, but it wasn't hard. It was the same. Yeah. She said it's like a skin tag. Yeah. But it wasn't a skin tag. It was like, just like, you know, like, you know, like jagged jaggedness from being cut yeah and it just kind of came out a little too far
Starting point is 01:03:50 i don't know and it just kind of came out a little too far and i was just like i took a deep breath and i was like i'm either gonna fucking have to go and make an appointment and fucking pay ten thousand dollars to get my fucking vagina and when they give you a labiaplasty let me tell you something. They pump it up to where your pussy is like, have you ever seen one of those suction things that you put on? Okay, and it makes your pussy
Starting point is 01:04:13 all fat. That's what it looks like. They lidocaine it up and like pump it full of all this fluid and your pussy like is huge. You know, like it's the craziest thing you've ever seen. And that is not her pussy for the record. Her pussy is a little mousy. No, literally. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:28 So I'm like, I can go and have to deal with this or I can just fucking take care of it myself. So I rummaged around my fucking, you know, bathroom and I was like, what can I chop this off with? Cause it was like so little, you know, like I didn't think anything of it. This is so crazy and i all i had was a little fucking dermaplane things and i was like all right this will do so i sat there and i did the first slice and i realized it was more than i had the knife i should
Starting point is 01:04:56 have just had like a real razor blade so i literally had to sit there and just kind of saw through it giving ham sandwich that's the thing a derma blading do. It's not like a super sharp. I realize that now. Like I thought they were hella sharp because they're, you know, they're scraping skin off your face. I think a steak knife might have been better. Or a butter knife at this point.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Some kitchen scissors. Literally something. Scissors would have been way quicker. Thanks, Brooke. I'm so sorry. I don't know why I had to know about this, but I just really did but like literally it was so small that literally the healing was like 24 hours and
Starting point is 01:05:30 it was gone like it was done oh my god perfect and so we have this podcast episode where she talked about how when she can't get her fake tan off she would use a magic eraser like for the kitchen you know what i mean do not take medical advice or any advice from the canceled podcast. Please. Please. And I gave a bunch of girls chemical burns. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:05:52 All right. Please do not. Do not. Please. All right. Don't do that. Or do it at your own risk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Go to a doctor. Pay the money. It's way worth it. This is, we are not WebMD. We cannot stress that enough. No, for sure.. It's way worth it. This is, we are not WebMD and we cannot stress that enough. No, for sure. But we're not well either.
Starting point is 01:06:08 So. Oh my God. That's some shit I would do though, for real. It's, I'm always in like the magnifying mirror, just doing some shit I shouldn't be doing. No, I mean, I'm just poking around, just looking around, you know. Completely. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I knew we weren't going to get out of here without lips being talked about I think that the dichotomy of just a little god talk, a little pussy lip talk that's literally our whole brand I really want to come on your podcast too I'm so ready come on next season
Starting point is 01:06:40 do you shoot in Vegas? yeah we have a studio ingas and then we just bought a whole compound we're moving from a like a thousand square foot studio to a six thousand square foot house that is just in vegas no in uh nashville so i have a studio in nashville and i have a studio in vegas when do y'all play nashville do y'all know we just did what yeah yeah we wanted you guys to come but i forget you were doing something crazy. You were doing the on-site stuff, baby. Oh, yeah, I was out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah. It was so much fun. We had a few days in Nashville, too. It was great. What venue did we play in Nashville? Next time we'll come see you. I want to come see one of your guys' shows. I would love for you guys to come.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Because I thought for a minute, I thought you were going to come, and then I know you guys got busy and whatever. But there was a couple days where we didn't know we were trying to plan it. And I was like, if Jelly Roll was at this show i was so stressed out i was like jelly roll cannot come to our fucking show i would have loved it yeah it was like he did i know now that you're more because i know that you're like with it like yeah all of it like i i never thought we'd have you on this couch discussing the pussy lip with the razor you know what i mean like i love that yeah it's just he always he. He supports whatever I support.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So he's like, you want me to go? I'll go. I fucking love that. That's why we didn't do it whenever you guys came to Nashville because I wanted to get him on the pod with you guys. Yeah. I think this duo is just unmatched. It really is. We love you guys. We support you guys, man.
Starting point is 01:08:02 We're cheering you guys on. We're going to make it back to Nashville. I love you guys. We support you guys, man. We're cheering you guys on. I feel the, we're going to make it back to Nashville. I love it there. I can't wait. And I'm trying to find me a country guy. We're about to be on tour too. So, I mean, we'll link up because you guys are going back out, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yeah. We're going back out now in the fall, I think. Okay. Yeah. So we start August, right, baby? Yeah. So we'll be on tour August and maybe like we can meet up in whatever city. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I know. I wonder if we're going to have any crossover. Yeah. I really hope so. That's the coolest thing. yeah so we'll be on tour august and maybe like we can meet up in whatever city yeah i know i wonder if we're gonna have any crossover yeah i really hope that's the coolest thing when you're torn and you the homies have a day off or something yeah enjoy touring oh listen it is my purpose it is what i do i call him a rambling man she knows from day one i'm a i'm a shaker dude i go and uh i love it do you have any like touring rituals or things that you guys love to do on the road or things that make it easier? Just anything.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Now I'm obsessed with knowing that. Yeah. Well, we have like pre-show rituals. We do. Me and the band get together. We say a prayer and have a thing we do. But as you get older, you'll see that I just focus on, man, that hour and a half is all that matters that day to me.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I try to, I feel like a professional fighter on show days. I try to stay off my feet. I try to make sure I slept good. I'm the guy that'll sleep for seven hours on that buzz, wake up, take another melatonin, go back for four more. I will sleep as much as possible on tour. That's my girl. That was the end of this tour. Because I was like, if I don't get this sleep, no one's going to be happy. For sure.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And the only way that your voice recovers, the body recovers is when it's asleep. It's the, when your body heals itself. So it's like Brent Smith from a band called shine down taught me that. Yeah. He said the key to singing five nights a week is two gallons of water a day and no less than eight hours of sleep a night under any circumstance,
Starting point is 01:09:38 man. I live by it. Yep. And I won't drink. I won't drink. If I have a show the next day. Yeah. That's my rule too, is like, if we do have a drink, it's gotta be like, no, I won't butt nothing up have a show the next day. That's my rule, too.
Starting point is 01:09:45 If we do have a drink, it's got to be like, I won't butt nothing up against it. Yeah, clearly. Showed up today. This is why I don't do that. I blew a meeting today. Fuck it, I'll announce it here. I was like... When you want to bet on sports, play it on a field or ice or course,
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Starting point is 01:10:25 please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. Yeah, I don't care. I mean, we can make it always bleep it if we need to. Yeah, we're partnering with, I'm with a record label called Stony Creek Records, which is Jason Aldean, Lainey Wilson, and myself. That's amazing. It's a line up right there. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:10:44 We love Lainey. Shout out Lainey. Because we've been having success on the pop side now, myself it's amazing country yep it's a line up right there it's incredible we love laney shout out laney yeah because we've been having success on the pop side now yeah we're partnering that label with a label called republic records yep which is the home of taylor swift ariana grande the weekend post malone yep that partnership happened today oh wow really yeah it's a really big deal it'll be it should be in the news cycle in the next couple days i was supposed i was supposed to go down there and play the album for both labels and i was supposed to take a picture like you know like the trade shot for the you know this is the biggest this is monty and avery lipman and john lowry the two biggest presidents in music yes three biggest presidents in music and i fucking blew it oh my god so but he got up for
Starting point is 01:11:21 the canceled podcast i did make it here though that might be the wrong setup like i think you might have failed on us oh my congratulations that is so amazing and you know what you'll be back there you will definitely yeah that's how i felt i get to hang out with a few of them all night and then i heart radio like the night before i heard it's so fun i've been to a few and it's. They're so fun, man. They do it right. It was the best award show we've been to. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:49 One of the best looks we've had. It feels really young and fun. Yeah. Exactly. It was really cool. They know what they're doing, man. They get you in there. They put you on the carpet.
Starting point is 01:11:56 You're on the carpet for like fucking 20, 30 minutes. Yeah. And then you go straight to the show. The show's two hours and you go home. Yeah. I know. We performed like two hours. Yeah. We performed. Me and Lainey did go home. Yeah. Some concerts are like two hours. Me and Lainey did Save Me.
Starting point is 01:12:07 It was really, really cool. Oh my God, I need to go watch it immediately. We've done a lot of songs, that thing together a lot. Last night was the best version of it we've ever done. Really? It was special. No, it was really good. Hey, you fucking killed it when you were in Los Angeles last night. It was really, really special.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And then I won those two awards and Shinedown gave it to me, which are like mentors of mine. Yeah. That's amazing. At that point, that was the moment I was like, oh yeah, tonight is one of the celebratory nights. Yeah. For sure. To the rainbow room we go.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah. I love that. It is. You earned your name. Next thing I know, I'm shooting shots with Flavor Flay Award. Yeah. Fucking Flavor Flay. I love him.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And he's a Vegas icon. i love him do you do you ever just see him roaming around vegas randomly i see him at every fucking award show now but does he stop the clock he's this yes yes he's the sweetest man and his wife is so fucking cool man he's she's hot fucking bodacious blonde wait i love that yeah a flame of 65 and he still has so much fucking energy yeah he's so nice and he's so welcoming and he the cool thing about him is he cheers everybody the fuck on he really does he really he like gives everybody their flowers he's so what are you smiling about just flavor i'm just thinking i know right i have so many videos of my phone last night of him he's just so happy
Starting point is 01:13:21 the best part last night was when beyonce was up there yeah she goes up and everybody quits clapping for a second and right before she goes to speak you just hear flavor flavor go yeah b what do you guys think about beyonce's country album love it i'm here for it i want everybody to go country yeah listen as a somebody who was in the country music space, Post Malone doing a country album, great for us. Lana Del Rey doing a country album, great for us. Let's go. I'm ready for that one.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Me too. Beyonce doing a country album, great. All of this is like, it's blurring the lines of music a little more. This country is so divided right now. Yeah. And we have created systems to divide america right we have a two-party political system that's the stupidest shit ever it's like going to a fucking football game somebody's going to cheer for this guy and against this guy it's fucking
Starting point is 01:14:14 it's immediately made to split us wow i think genres are too yeah because they become such a thing where you start to pride yourself on like oh i don't listen to country yeah i don't listen to pop or i don't listen to rock and it's like man but what if it's good music yeah what if they put it in a rock category and country has always like been so far away from everything else and it is people like i don't listen to country it's so nice and that's the only thing people say no one ever says like oh i don't listen to pop i feel like yeah everyone wants to like boast about not listening to country i'm like hello like it's a brag i don't listen but it's like it's country music cooler than it's ever been i know and it's it's my favorite i fucking i love it so much and i think it's so sick and i think it's i say it all the time i give the flowers
Starting point is 01:14:59 immediately it's it's zach bryan and morgan wallen i mean you know what i mean they took country music to a complete to a critical mass scale morgan wallen's yeah got a stream him and zach bryan and morgan wallen i mean you know what i mean they took country music to a complete to a critical mass scale morgan wallens yeah got a stream him and zach bryan outstream every pop artist on earth but a big three but taylor or the weekend or one you know what i mean besides that they are beyonce they're out streaming dude we went to see my favorite artist of all time he's my favorite she was like do you want to go with me to see zach bryan in la i thought we were going to be in a car to the motherfucking roxy and we show up at the forum and i was like oh shit like i didn't and it was like night one of four yeah it was i almost feels like i know he's been around
Starting point is 01:15:34 i think too but it does feel like he just like came out of nowhere and got so successful so quickly blows people up you know yeah it's like you don't get to see all the hard work that they did before i know i was thinking um noah khan yeah that's like he got what best new artist or something and it's like he's been making music for forever like kind of like my story he's also hillman zack or salt we fucking they're great humans love them yeah the best all best new artists at the grammys this year i feel like it was just it was so different than it's ever been like i feel like a lot of the year's best new artists to me felt like it was just a bunch of like industry plant vibes like you know what i
Starting point is 01:16:17 mean like this year really felt like all these fucking real people who did it and make amazing music like this shift is like even victoria i'm um i stand up for her winning that award what people don't know about victoria y'all probably do is that victoria wrote hits for everybody yeah you've listened to so many victoria songs that you didn't know was because ariana sung them or miley sung them or whoever but like that girl has been writing hit songs for everybody but herself for the last decade yeah so it's like to watch her now it's her time yeah it was cool this year to look around i felt the same way you felt i looked around like all of these new artists category are like celebrities yeah like normally they're not like
Starting point is 01:16:53 you'll have like one stand like olivia the year she won but traditionally it's like you said it's just kind of the newer industry people like i looked around like noah sells out arenas yep victoria's wrote dozens of hits i sell out arenas i just remember looking uh fred again the dj yeah huge yeah you know what i mean like even even the guy that you knew the least there can go sell out yep red rocks you know fans like real fucking fans not just like some ghost streams yeah yeah really it was like a cool i think i don't think they'll ever have it that stacked again that category won't never be ever stacked again i when that shit got announced i was like oh my god because i love you i love no i was like oh my god i don't even i thought noah deserved it
Starting point is 01:17:36 too i did i was cheering for no i thought uh but i'm also lose my mind every time i love it's like yeah of sticks and wine. That's my favorite fucking song ever. When I see it live, I'm going to croak. I need to so bad. We've tried so many times and we just keep missing him because we're either all gone. Same with you though. I can't wait to see you live. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:17:59 It'll catch each other. We're talking about bumping into each other. Y'all know Burt Kreischer? Yes. Have y'all ever met Burt? I haven't't but i wish burt is the man he would love burt yes and his wife yeah man such a fucking boss but so funny i i think we bumped into burt four times this year on the road really yeah it was just like we toured the same cycle in the same amount of shows yeah so like i swear it's five different times i got to go see burt because it was an off night or he'd be an hour away yeah so we played dallas the same night really i pulled up to the arena so fucking mad i played the amphitheater and i couldn't get the arena and
Starting point is 01:18:33 i walked in the arena i was like you're why i couldn't get this fucking arena it was so fucking funny to see the line of cancelled fans next to the line of Jerry fans talking to each other. So it was like two theaters in the same like place. Where was this at? Where were we? Got into my head. I couldn't tell you.
Starting point is 01:18:56 No, we were in San Antonio. Basically, we shared the same like little area and whatever, but like they had to walk in at the same time. So it was like bunch of middle-aged people in gowns and then the canceled fans in shirts that say, I do anal. That's hilarious. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:12 That is hilarious. It was so funny. You could tell the Jerry fans were scared shitless. I love that. But you know what? I bet you guys converted some of them too. I hope so. Take their interest.
Starting point is 01:19:20 I just, if nothing else, I hope they were curious about what was going on. Literally, it's like cross-pollination. Yeah, absolutely. All boats float, dude. Who watch on tiktok like who are some of your favorite tiktokers yeah starzy i love starzy he's one of my favorites a lot of people don't know about him but he's this kid who like i don't really know much about him but he's so fucking hilarious he carries around a doll and he swims in creeks all the time and he finds shit you know what i'm talking about you know i'm talking about i fucking love him because he's feel good content yeah you know like i can't follow like drama and like people that are
Starting point is 01:19:54 beefing with each other and shit like that like that shit makes me feel icky when i follow people i want to laugh or i want to smile or i want to feel good and literally that kid just all he does is just make people smile. You got to go check him out. He is the sweetest little angel ever. What's on your For You page? I'm still on the Mama Tot train. That's your favorite, right? I love Mama Tot.
Starting point is 01:20:15 I love Mama Tot, babe. Something about Mama Tot just does it for me. She's everything. She's a sweetie pie. She's such a sweet human too, but she's just country enough that I get it. Yep. So like the first time I seen it, I was like,
Starting point is 01:20:28 Oh, I grew up with her. That's my aunt. Yep. You know what I mean? I was like, I've got like four aunts and an uncle that are just like her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Oh my God. If I'm having a bad day and I get one of those mom and top videos where she sits down and she's like, Oh my God. It's sending me every time. I'm crying. Like I need a sandwich. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Right now. Have you got, have you got to meet her? No, I haven't. She's so sweet. You got to meet her. yeah oh my god it's sending me every time i'm crying like i need a sandwich yes right now have you got have you got to meet her no i haven't she's so sweet you gotta meet her you'll love her everything yeah she came on the podcast a dude too he's a half i love hoot and a half i love all of your like country phrases you've said yeah you said something i'm borrowing everything you guys have said no it's fine you have so many funny little phrases growing up my parents would ship me to texas if i was bad with like my grandma so i have like some country roots in me and like certain things like that i just i love it i love that i could see myself living in the country at some point like it's peaceful you come to tennessee yeah i want to go to tennessee so bad we'll find you a country boy that's easy that's i need it so bad no matt rife's in nashville yes did you hear what she did with matt's exes oh yeah i've seen this
Starting point is 01:21:29 i can't help it why it's the funniest thing ever it's so honest i was like it go brooke go she got him out of the group i'm usually not so messy but no i was having a moment. Oh, dude. It's iconic. It was so good. I was just sitting there watching it all. But now I'm reformed and now I need a nice country boy. There you go. I'm excited to see what you do in Nashville for fun because Nashville for me, it's kind of like I experience it with a lot of people who want to go out and drink
Starting point is 01:21:57 and it's kind of like a country Vegas if you're, you know what I mean? They call it Nash Vegas. Yeah. And so I would love to see what you do there I do nothing I do nothing at all I work I love doing nothing
Starting point is 01:22:08 literally well it's just Nashville has become my peace my safe space and when I want chaos I go to Vegas yep
Starting point is 01:22:14 and I'll go fucking gamble with the crew or you know we'll fucking go run around there and do shit and then I go home
Starting point is 01:22:19 and everything's just peaceful what do you play when you gamble blackjack oh my god I see you're playing poker yes it's my favorite thing. I love that about you.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I just got back from Vegas yesterday. I was gambling my whole heart away. It's my favorite. Do you have a gambling problem? No. However, I'm trading one vice for another. Yes, however, I'm having to, you know, be aware. Get it under wraps.
Starting point is 01:22:40 You guys saw all that stuff where people were saying that Bruno Mars was $50 million in debt from gambling gambling yeah i saw that but then apparently he's not yeah he got a marker probably and it's like working it off or something yeah he um i don't think he actually is but it scared me for a second i was like listen this can if it can happen to bruno it can for sure fucking happen to tambojo okay so i'm yeah i'm chilling with it yeah like when i used to work in vegas and you know i was doing my other profession i used to which was the call girl that was a high price call girl yeah so fun kidding sorry um but i would sit at the poker tables all the time and watch all the whales fucking just play like you know fucking 200 500 grand a hand and i just watch it like just sick to my stomach like how do you do that
Starting point is 01:23:22 yep taking a couple chips hopefully for the for the road you've been so open about everything like you're you know what i mean like obviously stopping doing that but also even os and everything like you you quit yeah what what did you just wake up one day and you're like this isn't me anymore oh i'm so glad we get to talk about this you get to a point where you just have to like, I was making, I'm, I've built so much with the podcast now that it's like, I'm making more money now with my clothes on. Why am I going to have this over here on the side where I'm taking my clothes off and literally showing everything, but I'm also at home raising a little girl who's trying to teach her self-worth and, you know, that she doesn't need to use her body to do things and stuff like that so my priorities kind of changed because i was just like
Starting point is 01:24:09 i tell everybody i married a rapper everybody's like you don't dress like a um a country singer's wife and i'm like because i married a fucking rapper yeah you know like that's why i don't but she's got the denim boots on you guys country enough for me yeah for sure country but c-u-n-t right exactly love that yes and i just got you know my husband was switching over to country and jay has never asked me to not do anything he's never asked me to be not be in the sex industry he's always been like baby whatever fills your cup and makes you feel independent because i am always like i have to be. I have to pay my own way and blah, blah, blah. So he's never asked me to stop. But when he switched over to country, I was just like, I don't want to be the only country music star's wife who has their butthole
Starting point is 01:24:54 on the Internet. Yeah. You know, and I was just like, I don't want to do this for our kid and I don't want to do this for him anymore. So I was just like, you know, it was scary because I was going to lose a huge chunk of my income. But at the same time, I was like, I just got to trust God and trust the universe. And I'm so glad I did because he gave it back to me tenfold. Yeah. Literally. Yeah. And I'm sure the podcast is a lot more like fulfilling.
Starting point is 01:25:14 It is. I love it. The podcast. Show your personality. I'm in a similar boat right now. Like I've been doing it for years and years and I loved it when it started. Like because it was so fun and yeah you know what I mean but now it's like we do this all the time like the other day I shot for it and I
Starting point is 01:25:30 was like I don't I don't know if this is me anymore but I'm in this weird battle where it's like I was sexualized for so long and I loved the idea of flipping it you know what I mean and getting to make the money and be like fuck you you know what I mean but and getting to make the money and be like, fuck you. You know what I mean? But I, and I just, I'm battling with like, not like putting the check down. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:50 It's like, do it because God's going to bless you in other ways. I promise you. And what's taking your time to focus on that. You're going to be able to pour it into something else. And it's going to come. It's literally just going to come back tenfold. I promise you.
Starting point is 01:26:03 We could be in our no O.F. era. I love that. Let's go, baby. We get to be part of the ushering in of that era. I love that. I love it. And I love my girls who do O.F. You know, like fucking go babies, go get that fucking bag,
Starting point is 01:26:15 do whatever you got to do. But when you're ready to hang it up, hang it up. And it's not like you can't ever go back. It's so true. Literally. And I even told Jay that. And I tell everybody, I'm like, listen, if we ever come up on hard times, you know'm fucking oh effing it up again you know like but
Starting point is 01:26:29 for right now it just doesn't serve a purpose in my life i hate to always drop a quote but my father used to always say i love it no i'm loving it he's literally like this all the time my father used to always say uh you you can always go back but you can't always go forward yep and that's like a philosophy in life yeah you know if you start walking into the forest you can always go back but you can't always go forward and that's like a philosophy in life if you start walking into the forest you can always turn around and walk back out of the forest there might not always be the chance to go forward so if you got a chance to go forward go forward
Starting point is 01:26:56 damn never stop dropping quotes for a second are you kidding that's awesome rest in peace buddy and you guys are just such good parents now and everything i do want to touch on something about the of thing because it was she posted about getting off of a year or two ago and it was kind of there was a little context missing yeah because of course all these articles everything i post now turns into a fucking headline but uh she had quit shooting content for OF a year before she got off of it.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Two years. Two years. I hadn't made a new video. I was literally recycling. Just repurposing and fucking making so much money off of it. Like it was wild.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah. So it was. So like the headline looks like Daily Wire posted yesterday jelly plant smoosh on like recently retired sex worker wife. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:27:44 I just went and sucked a dick. Jesus fuck. No it was the Daily Mail not the Daily Wire. But I was like maybe we'll just give a little context here. You know what I'm saying? She wasn't popping pussy for 30 months before
Starting point is 01:27:59 that either. They hold on to everything. The Daily Mail has been it. And my thing is i just want to support her and whatever she wants to do i mean she's a beautiful woman uh i want her to feel beautiful above everything and if that makes her feel beautiful and seen i want i was always with that there's another old quote that says there's a guy in a hole and i can go by and try to pull him out can't get him out somebody drops a ladder and can't get him out and then somebody jumps in the hole yep and the guy look you really you know this story right and the guy goes oh we're fucked now both of us are in
Starting point is 01:28:27 the hole and the guy goes no i know the way out you know what i mean and that's our relationship we're in the hole together you know what i'm saying that's it i'm beside you i'm not in front of you i'm not behind you i'm beside you i've you got my best friend so much and it just shows it just how authentic your relationship i think it's one of the most authentic relationships like for the that the public is relationships like for the, that the public is seeing like right now. I love when people compare us to Sharon and Ozzie. Oh,
Starting point is 01:28:50 come on. I'm like, okay, I'll take it. I will too. Actually. I'm a little aloof. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:59 If you ever see him drunk, I got a video on my phone right now of him walking naked down the hallway. I'm trying to figure out how I can post it on TikTok. When she said I was naked running down the hallway, I thought like shirt off or something, you know? Yeah. I mean, I didn't have a pair of socks on.
Starting point is 01:29:14 He had no skivvies on. Oh my God, I was crazy. I didn't have a pair of socks. I mean, I'm ass naked. She's trying like, don't do it. I was like, fuck yeah. He's like, I think you don't know who you married, buddy. I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:29:25 I was like, go ahead then. Go off, King. But y'all gotta have fun. Yeah, I love it. You're keeping it fun. Keeping it fun. Keeping it fun. I want to know one thing.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Yeah. Is there, will you ever have any more kids? No. You know, we talk about this a lot. And I actually, the other day, right before we got into bed, I was like, do you regret us not having kids? And he's like, this is a really deep fucking question while we're getting into bed right he was like it's 2 15 in the morning my wife goes do you think we're making a mistake
Starting point is 01:29:55 by not having more kids and i'm like what she goes do you think we should have a kid and i was like bunny that's a really heavy topic. And I was like, and when I come to bed, I'm a cannabis user. Yeah. And by the time I come out, I'm about as high as you can be. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:12 You know, that's about when I know I'm going to sleep is when I reached where I'm smoking as a formality. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Where it's like, I'm not getting any high. And he takes melatonin.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Same. Oh my God. I popped a melatonin. Yeah. I might've been on a muscle relaxer or something. My teeth were getting fixed. And she's like, should we have a babyatonin I might have been on a muscle relaxer or something my teeth were getting fixed and she's like should we have a baby and I was like whoa I was over here thinking about aliens
Starting point is 01:30:31 he's like right now I was over here like how did the pyramids get built so we have seriously though how so we have Bailey who's 16 who's literally about to leave for college and then we have Noah who's 7 7 or 8 which is from one of his exes 16 who's literally about to leave for college and then we have noah who's seven seven or eight
Starting point is 01:30:45 eight i always get which is your which is from one of his exes okay um when we him and i first got together he was getting out of like a 10 year off and on relationship and she was already pregnant and they decided to just have the you know she was nine months pregnant so it was like yeah we're having this kid and we're raising the baby and when we first got together like I was kind of in like I I never really desired to have children even growing up she's so maternal it's so crazy how much of a mother instinct she is she's such a nurturer yeah I love that but I just really was always like I want to be a boss I want to have my own business and you know never thought about having kids that could be your baby yeah yeah when we decided we were going to try to
Starting point is 01:31:25 have kids um we started to go get IVF and this was probably in like what 2017 2018 2018 2019 I went and I did the test I don't know what the name of the test is but it's where you get your tube they push through to see if you can like get an egg down your tube I've had two ectopic pregnancies so I have a lot of scar tissue in there. And when they did this fucking test, I went by myself because I'm like, oh, I got this. You don't need to come to this, whatever. I'm going to go. It was the most excruciating, painful thing I've ever fucking been through in my life. And they said, this is what childbirth feels like. Oh, no. And so I'm literally walking to the car like don't even know how I'm going to fucking drive home. And I'm just hurting so bad. And I was just like, you know, maybe I don't even know how i'm gonna fucking drive home and i'm just hurting so bad and i was just like you know maybe i don't want to do ivf because i was like this is fucking
Starting point is 01:32:08 horrific pregnancy scares the shit out of me for sure me too your situation is ideal to me literally like i'm not kidding like give me them i love i love it but like they fell into your lap i'm like give me all the babies if they're not mine you know like i'm totally fine with that but yeah um and then so i think we've kind of revisited the idea and i was just like do we really want to have kids right now and you know jay was like maybe i'll do whatever you want to do you know and i was just like because i feel like she came in and raised my children like if my wife wants a kid i wouldn't hesitate right now you know practicing is a lot of fun all right who wants to be our surrogate right surrogate every
Starting point is 01:32:45 time so if we did have a kid and if we did it i would do it out of the public eye i would like be i'd do some kylie jenner type shit like we didn't announce it until the baby was born and stuff like that because the world is so intrusive what are you guys eyeballing each other for who's got a surrogate no it's a secret pregnancy we'll tell you after okay okay they probably know i'm sure they know oh i don't know maybe not i can't wait to hear yeah so you know if we do go that route it's going to be with a surrogate and i've been tossing it back and forth a little bit more now that we're like more secure to like in our relationship and in our family and like you know when we first got together neither one of us had a pot to piss in you know i was making so much fucking money but had nothing
Starting point is 01:33:24 to show for it yeah i didn't know how to fucking save money i didn't know fucking you know i didn't i was just like well you're never taught that it's like you don't look at money the way that right you know maybe i don't want to say a sane person but you know what i mean like i definitely like i dealt with a lot of that where it's like just not having anybody to guide you like yeah like who's gonna tell you what to do with your money when nobody's ever made any money? For sure. We have no frame of reference of what success looks like at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:52 And then you end up with it. And then you're kind of, I think there's a thing that we were so afraid of this thing disappearing. You know how that feels. I still deal with that, I think. I do too a lot when I'm just like, man. I hoard money now too. I'm off social media right now.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Yeah. I took March off and did a wellness month for me. I, man, I'm off the, uh, I'm off social media right now. Yeah. I took March off and did a wellness month for me. I love that. I got my teeth fixed. Just shit I've been avoiding doing for 20 years. I went to a place called onsite, which is a mental wellness resort. And I stayed in the cabin with no phone for like two weeks and just did some heavy work kind of making sure that I was getting my head straight with a guy named miles Adcox.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Um, who's here with us. Yeah. Who's here with us now Yeah, who's here with us now. He's like a mental health guy that's just really kind of making sure. Oh, wow. What I realized, I started realizing that as the public attention was coming in, that I knew that I have a higher purpose. And I was like, man, I just want to make sure I'm thinking about this. It goes back to talking to people.
Starting point is 01:34:41 I never had a real mentor. I was like, I just want to talk to people that know more than me. You know what I mean? I just need to start getting around. I realized had a real mentor. I was like, I just want to talk to people that know more than me. Yep. You know what I mean? I just need to start getting around. I realized that I was having all these conversations about God, and I don't even know one pastor. Yep. So I met a pastor, a really cool guy named Pastor Judah Smith, and he's been pastoring me this month.
Starting point is 01:34:59 But it's been so therapeutic, and the whole process of everything. I don't even know how I got on that tangent, really. I think I was just excited to talk about my growth. I think I was talking about my growth. I was excited. I've lost like 60, 70 pounds this year. Yeah, I saw that you want to do a marathon. Yeah, I'm doing the 5K with Bert Kreischer and Tom Zagura. Y'all are in
Starting point is 01:35:20 town. You should come support me. We're doing it here. I think it's a little farther from here. I'm such a Bert fan, too. I'm you guys will love you guys gotta swap on pot we really do if y'all got on birds on the bird cast that'd be so fucking i would absolutely love to yeah i would absolutely love to i love that for you though i'm just like oh but the social media things what i was thinking but i'm sorry and i'm sober rarely i mean normally it's high but i haven't been on social media and today was a day where like i I keep asking my wife, like, Hey, is everything going okay over there? Cause you know,
Starting point is 01:35:50 we had a big moment last night and I'm like, your speech is going viral and you have moments where you're like, I hope today's not the day that people quit caring. I still have that fear. Like I woke up after such a great night and just a little, the kid in me yeah insecure kid was still like i wonder if anybody cares i think i couldn't relate to that more i think that i i've spent all of my career the last 10 years at least where people like you're so driven you're
Starting point is 01:36:15 always working and like you you know what i mean you want this you're gonna you're gonna make it work one way or another and i i don't think that i realized for a long time the only thing that was driving that was fear like was complete it wasn't just like oh i love to it was fear like like i know if this goes away tomorrow i have nothing to fall back on so it's like and it's a i don't know if it ever goes away i don't think so because i'm the same way yeah you know leaving home at 14 and not never having help from anybody and like building what, you know, I've built by myself and with my husband is like, if I can, you just get to a point where you're like, if I like, I even told him last night, we were talking about being off of social media. And I was like, I wish I could get off social media sometimes, but I can't because I've built my business, you know, I feel the same way yeah so i totally relate to what you just said about you know doing that out of fear because you're just like okay well if i log off for a month how are my fucking yeah numbers gonna look i had to though man it was starting to affect my mental health i was catching myself when i found myself arguing with a dude whose profile picture was woody
Starting point is 01:37:19 harrelson you know what i mean i struggle with that seven thread argument with him and that's not even my style my style is like not to argue anyway about anything yeah you know what i mean i kind of i grew up in and out of the system so yeah before i get mad enough to argue with you i'll just get physical yeah you know what i mean it's like we'll just fucking fight yeah you know what i mean we'll skip all the talking and just fist fight you know 100% so it's like and I find myself and I was just like man
Starting point is 01:37:48 I was hitting back people in DMs I struggle with that too because it's so hard for me to see something and not have a reaction or like a response and I was placing
Starting point is 01:37:57 so much value in it and she's like you cannot do that you gotta get off to wake up and just all of a sudden you need to blink that you guys gotta stop
Starting point is 01:38:04 giving that website so much free press like for real they don't deserve it fuck them like for real don't just for now on bleep that out of your podcast because you guys are so powerful you drive more people to it you know so don't even we don't on my podcast oscar bleep that literally on my podcast we bleep it i do not because they love that they relish in that you know she talked about it she said our name on there you know and it's just like fuck yeah that's how to see the troll the threads are it's so nutty the other day my best friend came and showed me that there was like this whole thread of like hundreds of people arguing for days on if my boyfriend was black or not and i was like first
Starting point is 01:38:41 of all he is but i was just like, this guy has a private social media. Like it is so crazy that someone just dedicated like 18 hours of their 24 hour day to do this. But it is like and you want to like chime in and shit because it's like it's so weird to fall into a world where all these people are perceiving you. And it's so harmful. It's harmful what they're doing to themselves. So malicious to spend to spend that much time obsessing over people that you've never met so toxic for them but also it's toxic for us to have to read lies about ourselves and like misperceptions and like when when i first
Starting point is 01:39:16 started blowing up that shit would bother me too like to the point where i would i threw a rock at every dog that barked i fucking would argue and like fight in the comments and stuff like that and he would just tell me baby you gotta let that shit go you know he's like people are gonna talk about you no matter what and i'm telling you get off that website the best thing i ever did was fucking delete that app from my phone i am i'm going to that wellness camp yeah yeah i got you i didn't even go to that wellness camp but i'm telling you right now fucking just get off that app it's so detrimental to your i'm telling everyone after today that y'all are our new mentors can i just say like sincerely in the history of the canceled podcast this episode truly feels like so much more special than
Starting point is 01:39:57 we're choosy too like now because a lot of people a lot of times people don't even want us to have guests because it's just like yeah but i really want this is like we choose people who we love and who like we think will be special on you guys and i think that's really cool about your fans that that's a testament of what y'all built thank you they're just like yeah fuck a guest kind of you know yeah sometimes they like it but you know i told bunny this for years we were talking about her going into this season she's going to start shooting like for bigger guests because i think this next season is wild i think to this point bunnies people just tune in because of bunny 100 you know what i mean it's one of those things like people just i've told bunny all the time like you could sit there and talk for an hour by yourself and i don't think
Starting point is 01:40:36 you would lose a single subscriber 100 i'm staying on the clips of just her every time and then the guests too but i can't name a guest you've had and I've seen a million. I love you guys. I just care about what you're saying. I appreciate that. I just feel like I love hearing people's story. I love stories. I love learning about what makes them tick.
Starting point is 01:40:56 I love the psychology of it. I love the emotion of the ride and listening to their stories. So I don't think I could ever not have a guest. I mean, I do. We do like propaganda and I do like Q and A's and stuff like that on my Patreon, which is huge, too. You guys need to get a fucking Patreon. We've been talking about it.
Starting point is 01:41:12 I'm like, I feel like we're missing out. I didn't have too much paywall shit. So now that maybe if I'm stopping OF, it's. Yeah, there you go. I have 140,000 subscribers on Patreon. If you guys got on Patreon, you'd blow me out of the water. Yeah. Literally.
Starting point is 01:41:23 And it's monthly, right? So even if it's a dollar. It's literally just like just like oh hold on i've been saying this to you i'm telling you oh my god that just made me sick to my stomach bro yeah we have a house we definitely have to have a combo about that but no it's funny that you say that that you because that's why i like to have on guests it is selfish it's like i want to know that i i saw this tiktok the other day i was telling her about it but it's like when you grow up in a turbulent household a lot of people manifest that trauma and wanting to know the psychology behind why their parents were the way they were and that's like why everybody is the way they are yeah and that's that's exactly where i'm at like i yeah
Starting point is 01:41:58 you should consider going out to onsite oh for sure i would love to you would learn so much i learned so much really it's the best decision ever miles is here we'll give him you guys i would love to he's a guy who owns it it's but it's um it man we went we went when we had a issue with our daughter yeah about 18 months ago is how we ended up there yeah and uh right then i knew it was the real deal and even then i was like i'm coming back and i And I set off March and went. Wait, I, it's so funny yesterday. I now understand things. I tell this story the most, but I'm sure she was still mine. But something I learned was I grew up in a house where my mother never left her bedroom. She struggled with mental health and drugs. She never came out of a room. My mother was similar. Yeah. My wife grew up in a household where the only place she felt safe was in her room.
Starting point is 01:42:46 So imagine when she's going through something in life because of the way her stepmother was to her, the only place you could hide from was a room. Bunny retracts back to the room. Yeah. Because of my childhood triggers. Yeah. I take it triggers me like, what am I doing wrong? I'm trying to get my mom out of the bedroom again. Yeah. So I would go into the bedroom early in our relationship and I would cause these fights that wasn't fights. Yeah. Injecting myself into her shit thinking I was trying to help her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:14 And she just needed the space. And then I took it personal. Yeah. And it's like just little things that I learned in that community at onsite. Now it's like something that was a frequent issue in our relationship is now like, if I see my wife insert back to the bedroom you straight yeah you need me to sit with you no cool i'm downstairs smoking weed holler if you need me you know what i'm saying it's like instantly it's like and i've learned so many little things like that it's so weird we had
Starting point is 01:43:38 this whole conversation yesterday where i was like i really want to find a therapist or someone to help me but i i struggle with the fact that i'm so self-aware that a lot of times i go in and it's like oh you just need to hug your inner child and it's like well no fucking shit yeah you know like you need someone and i was like i'm just gonna wait for it to come to me so it's funny that you you manifested it you just put it into the universe your words are spells so whatever you put into the universe is going to come back i noticed that so i got a guy i'll introduce you he's the guy they're amazing, they're amazing. Onsite has changed our lives. Yeah, it changed our life. And I went because I was in a place where I was like, one, I found myself having these arguments. And I realized I didn't know it then, but it's because I'm making a big change in my life with my obesity.
Starting point is 01:44:16 And I'm sensitive because anytime I've ever tried to change my life because of the prison system, I was met with resistance. So when I'm trying to make these changes where normally I'd see a fan comment i hope you didn't die yeah one soon you know i see that all the time really and i'd just be like whatever but when you're actually trying to change it you're more sensitive to it yeah so it hurts your feelings a little more because you're like you're more sensitive to it now i kind of and i know because i know how hard it is to make a big change in life you know what i mean i'm this is a lifelong addiction I got with food that I'm fighting right now. You know what I mean? That I'm learning my way around.
Starting point is 01:44:48 And that's another reason I was like, I got to get off social media because we're in the era where whoever can say the meanest comment wins. Yes. And it's, I feel so sickened for my daughter. I hate that she grew up, she's growing up in this era.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like first thing we had to deal with was a kid down the hallway talking behind your back. I talk about this all the fucking time that it's like i cannot imagine what bullying in today's day and age feels like like back then it was like okay someone can say some shit or a group of people can get together or like you square up you know what i mean yeah like now it's like the internet like tiktoks are going viral about like kids just like i can't fuck people talking
Starting point is 01:45:24 shit about other people. It's the fucking weirdest shit I've ever seen. We're in a place where it's cool to be mean. Yeah. It's just so fucking sad. It's cool to be a troll. It's weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:33 It's just being mean. It's like it was never cool to be mean. No. Yeah. I saw someone say like back at like if you were to be in person with somebody and you saw someone like bullying somebody, everybody's natural reaction would be to like, you know, yeah,
Starting point is 01:45:47 to defend them online. It's like your natural reaction is to join in on the bullying. Yeah. It's so interesting. Or to even watch. Yeah. Just to watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:57 It's fucking sad era, man. I was telling her that about, um, we're talking about some shit. We probably shouldn't today, but we let, we let bailey i let bailey take the car the other day by herself to go pick something up for me and i don't know if
Starting point is 01:46:10 y'all remember when she has her permit she's almost 16 i think every parent did that everyone's done where their parents like hey i know you're not supposed to and it kind of gives a little freedom and it's kind of exciting yeah it's super i know i know excited i was when i was that age so i knew it was a big deal for her. But I told Bunny I was sad when she left because we all have Life 360. Best app ever. Yeah, it's the best app ever. But it was sad for me because I was like, the first thing I did when I got that car
Starting point is 01:46:36 was went and picked up the friend they told me not to pick up. You can go to the store, but you better not go pick up John. And I went straight to John's house and be like, get in, motherfucker's house and i was like and she don't get to do that yeah but i also had to remind them that we don't live in the same world as we grew up in you know like fucking even the world 10 years ago was way cooler than it is now the world is beautiful life is beautiful but people are fucking way shittier now it seems like that or we're just more aware to it but yeah i mean you know people kidnapping fucking all that shit i was just at home in vegas for easter and we drove past my high school and i got in a conversation with my best friend about how our parents like duh you're walking home five
Starting point is 01:47:12 miles from school alone fucking duh and now it's like and she was like i can't believe they let us do that and i was like it was just a different fucking time yeah like you know what i mean what high school did you go to i went to green valley high school okay okay yeah dropped out as a sophomore though yeah same well i went to vegas high school but yeah did you that's it that is so y'all's story is fucking weird it is it truly is like a mirror reflection yeah and i love it with your parents too it's fucking crazy i would love to like really sit with you i want to come on your Dude, I'm ready. Just sit with you and compare. Let's start next season. We'll bring you guys on.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Y'all should come to Tennessee and we should do some country shit if you don't want to drink. We'll go ride four wheelers. Absolutely. My dream. That's like all I want to do right now. Every weekend I'm like horseback riding. I don't know how serious this invite is, but I'm fucking serious. That's so serious.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Yeah, no, it's serious. This is dead serious. We'll ride four wheelers. You want to ride horses? They have horses in on-site they ride. Oh my God. And four. We're coming. I feel. You want to ride horses? They have horses on onsite they ride. Oh my God. And four. We're coming.
Starting point is 01:48:07 I feel like I'm making a wish child today. This is like, you really don't understand. Thank you so much. I love that. I think it's cool that you think we're cool. Yeah, you do have imposter syndrome. Like you are the coolest. We feel the same way about you guys.
Starting point is 01:48:22 You guys are the fucking shit. And like this episode is exactly what I want out of an episode being so different even just everything that we've talked about like I said that to her I was like I just I hope that we get into the shit with them because it's like we don't get to do that a lot and I think so much of what was said today is like
Starting point is 01:48:37 so many people like really need to hear and coming from you guys and it's just like I'm so happy we spend so much time tearing people down. Tearing things down. When we got together it was to build. We were shitty humans. We were shitty humans before we got together.
Starting point is 01:48:55 And we were shitty humans together. The first few years of our relationship. And when we split in 2018. And we came back together. We were like. This is make or break. We're either going to become better humans. And and better the world and people that we are around or we're just not gonna be together but that recognition and ability to turn that around and the strength to turn that
Starting point is 01:49:14 around and the drive to because it takes work you know what i mean is one percent of people like it's so i just commend you yeah i feel like you guys have made up for it 10 times over if you stopped right now i feel like you would have no and you're just getting already yeah i was like i feel like we're not we have so much to do so i'm excited about it dreamers yeah we love to watch it it's so so cool and special to see and we're obsessed we just can't thank you enough for coming on the cancer thank you we'll come anytime thank you for having me we're coming to nash Tennessee, baby. Come on. Come on, you guys. Four wheelers and horsemen.
Starting point is 01:49:46 You guys gotta come to the new studio. I would love to have you guys be my first guest in the new studio. Oh, that would be awesome. I'm fucking there. And it's in Vegas. Come on. We'll go push some blackjack. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:49:53 This one's in Nashville. Never mind. We will go to on-site and heal. Come on. We'll do an on-site week and we'll do a four wheeler week. It'll be great. That is fucking awesome. She said, never mind.
Starting point is 01:50:02 We'll go to on-site and heal. Yes, for real. For real, which is a lot better than Vegas. I just, I fucking love you guys so fucking much. We love you guys. Thank you so much. I feel bad. You guys are getting like sunburned.
Starting point is 01:50:12 No, you're fine. I feel bad because the sun's like just on you guys. No, I would literally do anything. We love you. Damn, we did a real pod. Y'all, it's been two fucking hours. Let's go. Yay.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Thank y'all to all the canceled people. Thank you so much. For all the people that found Son of a Sinner because of y'all to all the canceled people. Thank you so much for all the people that found son of a sinner. Cause of 10. I love y'all. Thank you so much.

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