Candace - A SHOCKING Discovery About The Man Who Mic’ed Charlie Kirk. | Ep 351

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

We opened a can of worms this week discussing the exploding microphone theory which led us to another can of worms by asking who mic'ed Charlie... Also, we have more conflicting narratives coming from... TPUSA affiliates. 00:00 - Start. 01:18 - Thoughts on Charlie's necklace. 05:26 - Reasons the microphone theory could work. 09:47 - Who mic'd Charlie. 21:30 - The trafficking and Romanian theme surrounding TPUSA. 27:00 - Unanswered questions from 9/10. 38:47 - Conflicting narratives on CPR from Brian Harpole & Frank Turek. 44:40 - X user makes a funny observation over Erika's signature. 49:05 - Comments. PreBorn!​ ​ To donate, dial #250 and say they keyword “BABY" or by visiting https://preborn.com/candace Nimi Skincare​ Save 10% on your order with promo code CANDACE10 at http://www.NimiSkincare.com Tax Network USA​ ​ Do not wait for another IRS letter or a frozen bank account. Call 866-686-1651 or visit http://tnusa.com/candace  Field of Greens​ Visit http://fieldofgreens.com and use my code CANDACE for 20% off your order! American Financing​​​​​​​​​​​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99. Candace Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ClipsCandaceOwens Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:28 That was easy. All right, you guys, lock in. And happy Wednesday, by the way. So we apparently opened a can of worms this week discussing what appears to me to be the most viable theory pertaining to Charlie Kirk's assassination that the microphone may have been rigged, at least it's the one that the theory that has the most evidence to support it. But if this were the case, that would suggest, obviously, that Charlie's audio and visual team was somehow involved in this conspiracy, whether unwittingly or not. And I have to say, that Terrell Farnsworth racing to take down the camera behind Charlie's head minutes after he died. Also, that little selfie he recorded of himself declaring that Charlie was dead, seconds after he died. That's not going to help the conspiracies. Anyway, the next logical question for us became who actually miced Charlie Kirk. And the answer, ladies and gentlemen, kind of opened another can of worms. Now, you're going to say, I just don't believe you anymore, Candace.
Starting point is 00:01:27 This is not possible. It's just not possible, Candace. That's what you're going to say. Welcome back to Candace. Okay, very quickly, because I promised you guys this yesterday, I want to at first briefly discuss the necklace that Charlie Kirk was wearing on September 10th. As we all know, it was a St. Michael pendant. There was much ado about this necklace, a bizarre amount of storytelling relating to the necklace, and it sort of became this fixture amongst the Turning Point USA goons.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Take a listen. And so Gigi and I stayed in our room. And that morning he woke up super early, and he came into our bedroom, into the bathroom, because that's where his wedding ring was and his necklace. And he came in, and he grabbed that.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And his necklace had a cross on it, and it had St. Michael's medal. Yeah. I wear it every day. That's right. Wow. Oh, it's so beautiful. Yeah. And so when they finally cleared it,
Starting point is 00:02:36 I got into the car, and I pulled out my bag, and draped over my bag was Charlie's necklace that had a cross and medallions on it. And I had heard they were looking for that. And so cop was like, oh, we've been looking for that. I said, I got it. So I just took it.
Starting point is 00:03:00 That was actually a necklace that Erica gave Charlie when they were dating. And she said, oh, you're a Christian, why don't you wear a cross? And he said, I don't know, I just, I'm not a jewelry guy. And something happened where he was pressed and he felt the weight of the world on him. And he put that cross on and he never took it off again until he was assassinated. And the people caring for him ripped it off as they tried to save his life.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And Erica has it on her all times now. When we were about to leave, we finally got access to the car again. And Erica was asking for a necklace that Charlie was wearing. It's a cross necklace and had some medallions on it. And when I went into the backseat of that car, I pulled my bag out, and that necklace was attached somehow, just kind of draped over the bag. So I gave it to Mikey, and I said, Mikey, I want you to give this to Erica.
Starting point is 00:04:13 It was a comfort tour. Lots to be said there. First and foremost, why were the cops looking for the necklace? How do the cops even know that Charlie was wearing a necklace on that day? There was a theory after people started realizing how odd it was that everyone had a personal story about this necklace. It was a theory that began floating around that maybe it was the necklace that was rigged. And I would like to say categorically that I do not subscribe to that theory. I do not believe that was the case.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I actually strongly discount that theory for two very simple reasons. One, that would leave things to chance. There was a chance that Charlie didn't put on his St. Michael necklace that morning, there was also a chance that while traveling in a highly pressurized cabin on a plane that morning to Salt Lake City, that something could have gone horribly wrong. Simply put, with that much planning that needed to be involved to rig something, they would not have introduced a variable that was completely out of their control. like, I hope he wears his necklace today.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And they also wouldn't have put Mikey McCoy, Blakey Neff and the entire team that were on board that jet traveling with Charlie with an explosive. So I just completely discounted that theory. It is much more likely that the reason there was focus on the necklace,
Starting point is 00:05:26 the reason the feds were looking for that necklace, the reason that it was given to Erica, is because if our theory is correct, it contained explosive residue. That would have probably been the single most thing that had explosive residue on it because it was on his chest. It would be that simple.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And if the feds were in on it, as we all suspect, then they would have gone, okay, where is that we need to make sure we get rid of this necklace in some capacity? And the safest bet would have been to say, well, we're giving it to his widow. Now, as we unpacked yesterday, when you run this theory that Charlie's microphone was rigged, suddenly every little oddity in this story,
Starting point is 00:06:02 every little oddity from September 10th onward begins to make a lot more sense. To briefly recap, we put together, this graphic for you guys, the rigged mic would go a long way in terms of explaining why the bomb dogs were kept away from the scene, okay, because they would have smelled the explosive. Why the crime scene was immediately paved over and the soil was excavated. That's because explosive residue, as we have learned, really hangs on to soil. It is highly soil absorbed. So I can show you that here. I think we have a little science article that you can look up.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You can research this on your own, but it says that the low. water solubility and high soil absorption of PETN in particular, if we think that is the explosive, it would be very problematic and you would, in fact, need to dig out the soil. We introduced to you guys the Dan Merrill, who was the guy who was the paper who was called to come in on a Sunday. Well, actually, further on in his interview with Jimmy Rex, he describes how he was actually the second person or the second team, so to speak, that arrives before he even had arrived on that Sunday, few days later, they had sent another government team to go in and to dig out all of the soil. Eight to ten inches of soil. Take a listen to what he said.
Starting point is 00:07:17 When I showed up, I took pictures of what it looked like. They had taken out about 10 inches of the dirt around the whole place. Right. You know, you can, right now you can see where the pavers are. Everything under that, probably 10 inches had been excavated. Why do you think they excavated so much dirt? You think that they were trying to make sure they got, you know, any bullet fragments or anything that was in there? I wasn't looking at it with that lens, dude. Really? I wasn't. It didn't even cross your mind? It didn't cross my mind. Well, my answer to that would be, as I said, running this theory that it is because of
Starting point is 00:07:52 high soil absorption. It is a fixture of PETN explosive. Again, another thing that just sort of would lock into place. Why the feds were searching for Charlie Kirk's necklace. The same reason explosive residue. Why there appears to be shattered black plastic or glass all over the SUV, which transported trolley to the hospital. That would be the road bike.
Starting point is 00:08:12 That would fit in perfectly. That would make sense. Why there is no available footage or any eyewitness reports of someone seen firing a shot from the Losey building. That's a big strange anomaly here. Why do we not have those people? Yes, I saw him take a shot.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, because no shot was actually taken from the Losey building. Why the feds did not conduct a standard GSM gunshot residue test when Tyler Robinson was brought in because they knew that he would fail it. And that would not help them in court if Tyler Robinson, who they say they got after a 33-hour manhunt, 33 hours on a minute over, failed a GSR test, especially when they say he was wearing the same outfit. It would also explain why Tara Farnsworth violated the crime scene immediately, quite boldly,
Starting point is 00:09:03 to remove the SD card from that back footage because it would have captured that the 30-1storff, which would have decapitated Charlie, did not go through. Also, it would explain why there was unusually no ambulance on standby. I always had an ambulance on standby at my Turning Point USA events when I toured. This is an anomaly. It would answer to that would be because, well, the paramedics would have seen the shattered roadmike pieces and all of the other evidence which did not support a gunshot wound. that would be the reason why you would just have his security team transport him under this theory.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Again, we're thinking while it's still legal to do so. Lastly, it would go some way of explaining why Erica was quick to forgive Tyler Robinson before the world. It was quicker than she was able to forgive Druski when she came out weeks later looking like an assassin and saying that she was so angry, had Druski much more angry than she was at Tyler Robinson. So bizarre. So bizarre. Well, it's easy to forgive someone. If you made me know they didn't do anything,
Starting point is 00:10:11 I could probably forgive someone didn't do something to me either. I don't know. Anyway, to move on, we were inundated yesterday with emails from people who work in the space of media, in the space of audio, particularly, and they were positively incensed and insistent.
Starting point is 00:10:28 They could not express enough how absolutely inappropriate, nonsensical, and utterly moot it would be for Charlie's mic to be placed on the inside of his shirt, a point that I briefly mentioned yesterday, but I didn't really harp on it. At least I didn't harp on it enough, apparently. Again, so this is just to recap for my fellow non-techies.
Starting point is 00:10:51 We are referring to Charlie's wireless microphone, not the handheld. Here it is, again, that black squared road mic pro. It does also feature recording capability, and it also has a magnetic clasp, which holds it onto your shirt, side of your shirt. And here is how they put it on to Charlie on September 10th. So they have the magnetic clasp on the outside and yet the road mic on the inside. Now, if you are trying to get a clear and crisp audio, you do not place it on the inside of someone's shirt, right? That would just
Starting point is 00:11:25 be foolish. That would be like us running the show and just like putting, I don't know, like a, we wouldn't do this. Why would we want that ruffle of me moving my shirt? It really is common sense and people who were emailing us were so frustrated by this. And as we examined the question, is this how they just had always done it? Were they always just, you know, incompetent? Well, we had some time, ladies and gentlemen, and I told you, the very first tour stop where I saw that as a new feature was the first tour, the first college campus tour, where I was not featured alongside Charlie Kirk due to the Zionist peer pressure, the external Zionist peer pressure since me leaving the Daily Wire. It extended to Charlie Kirk. They didn't want him
Starting point is 00:12:08 associating with me anymore. And that is when, it seems, the team began to introduce the redundancy of the wireless road bike. Again, that was also admitted to me by Terrell Farnsworth on the phone. So that's not imagined. That's not to say that there wasn't, you know, some random one-off event where he had that redundancy. But as a rule, this is not something that Charlie had. He just kept his handheld. It was, it began in fall, 2012. You're being brainwashed for, and I should mention that at first when they started introducing this, they did place the wireless mic on Charlie in a way that made audio sense on the outside of his shirt. Take a look. This is September 5th, the University of Wisconsin in Madison.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Well, he had no mic. On September 11th, University of North Texas, he has the mic. There we go. But you can see it's on the outside of his shirt, because that makes sense. On September 18th, he was at the University of Pittsburgh. Again, you can see Tyler, I mean, Tyler, Charlie has it on the outside of his shirt. That makes sense. Suddenly on October 8th, the University of Nevada in Reno, Charlie has it on the inside of his shirt. And then we see on the 11th, it's on the inside of his shirt. On October 30th, it's on the inside of his shirt.
Starting point is 00:13:25 This is that expression that I said to you that we use here in a state's called Boiling the Frog slowly. right, introducing something new so he doesn't really recognize it and then changing one thing, getting him adapted to it to it doesn't really ask questions, and then, you know, lo and behold, something doesn't really make sense, but you're kind of used to the thing that's not making sense, boiling the frog slowly before he can know, it's getting really hot in here, it's time to jump outside of the pot. And the question is why, right? Why?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Why would they do this if it doesn't make sense? Here is one of hundreds of emails that we received from audiovisual professionals. this person wrote. Candice and team, I'm an AB professional and I believe that you are onto something with the road lab mic. The only reason for Charlie to be rigged with two mics would be because one was being sent to a broadcast recording or a live stream. Had both his handheld mic and the road mic been used to run audio to the PA system at the school using different channels, this would cause a myriad of issues that would present with interference, overlapping, and echo between the two channels. We need to find out about if this supposed recording or live stream was actually produced.
Starting point is 00:14:32 If not, big red flag. Okay. So we take a look at this. We take a look at the audiovisual team. We know Terrell Farnsworth is running this team. He has for over 10 years. Terrell Farnsworth is one of the quote unquote originals, as I say. He was, as we explained to you throughout our Erica Kirk series, he grew up with Tyler Boyer.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Him and Tyler's families grew up together. him and Tyler's families went to high school together. They go back generations, to be frank with you. And, you know, as a part of this, like, Mormon clan, and Tyler was the one that was hiring everybody that was around Charlie Kirk. That's just a fact. So the next logical question is who particularly on Terrell's team Mike Charlie?
Starting point is 00:15:16 And because, you know, this guy might just be guilty of the crime of being incompetent, whoever this guy is. What amateur AV guy thought it was a good idea to capture audio beneath a t-shirt, to record audio beneath a t-shirt. And that answer is, the answer is a young man named Philip Goldsbury Jr. Okay. I'm going to show you this video that was put together by ex-user Sam Parker. He's just unpacking the moments you can see it that Charlie gets miced up. And he also further explains how and why we are positively certain that it is a road wireless mic pro that is put onto Charlie. Take a listen. So here we're just seeing Philip Goldsbury clip it on a Charlie's shirt.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Here's a few moments beforehand. We can see Philip Goldsbury has the road wireless pro microphone in his hand and he's approaching Charlie with it. Here's another angle. You can see him holding the Road Wireless Pro microphone in his hand talking to. It looks like Terrell Farnsworth. There it is in his right hand. You see that? That's the Road Wireless Pro microphone. Now we're going to see Philip Goldsbury sneak from behind Frank Turich there and you can see the lapel magnet and the microphone transmitter in his hand. See that? Transmator in one hand, lapel magnet in the other. Then I want you to see the dual charging storage cases or docking stations. This is how we know it's the Road Wireless Pro microphone because it comes with the dual
Starting point is 00:16:44 charging cases and docking stations. There are also magnetic clips so that you can hide these behind your shirt or something like that. And all you'll see is just like a little magnet. Okay. And here you can see that Philip Goldsbury secured it under Charlie's shirt next to the necklace. Okay. Under Charlie's shirt next to the necklace, it goes a long way of explaining why it looks like the necklace breaks first before Charlie is actually injured by any projectile. But more on that later. We want to focus here on the person who Mikeed him, Philip Goldsbury Jr.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I was already aware that it was Philip Goldsbury Jr. who had Mike Charlie. I figured that out pretty soon. whoever everybody was on the team. And really, very early on, because I was running, you know, down so many different pathways, I really just did a tiny bit of digging into who he was. And I, of course, immediately rolled my eyes when I discovered that his father was a pastor, a reverent, who also happened to study psychology. You know, I just was like, okay, we get it. Everybody is a pastor. We got Frank Churrick here. We got Rob McCoy. Everybody here is like the T-P-U-S-A faith. And so Phillips-Goldsbury being raised by a pastor, just like I said,
Starting point is 00:17:58 maybe give an eye roll. But things got pretty interesting when we looked at, I guess, a little bit more about who his father is. Also, his name is Dr. Philip Goldsbury. So they have obviously the same name. That's his dad right there. He is a pastor in Arizona. And I asked my team to figure out just like basic facts. I'm like, where is he from? Like, is there going to be another connection here? What's he involved in as a pastor? And you guys, our connecting themes spreadsheet is probably going to grow a little bit longer. You're not going to believe me. Because back in 2006 when Erica was getting her teen Miss America crown under the Trump Miss Universal Organization, Dr. Philip Goldsbury co-founded a charity
Starting point is 00:18:49 organization, which began doing work in Eastern Europe. The organization would come to be known as Soder Global Ministries. And of course, they were in Ukraine. And of course, they were in Romania, helping to provide medical care to orphanages. I kid you not. I just I can't, I can't take it. I can't, I cannot take it. It's not possible. All those. my homies are doing work in Eastern Europe said nobody ever. It's just not possible. Look around. Tag 10 of your homies. See how many people are doing ministry and work and helping Romanian orphans. This is not possible. Okay. But this is what? This is who Philip Goldsbury's dad is. And this is a fact. We verified it. We have pictures. Now, despite starting to do work before 2010, they didn't officially file
Starting point is 00:19:49 paperwork for their global ministries until 2010, right? 2010 being the very year that the Black Sea Rotational Force set up a base in Romania, which would subsequently be accused of trafficking and prostituting children. This is what landed Erica's Romanian angels in some hot water online when they realized she was partnering with Colonel Otto Boucher, and Colonel Otto Buescher was the person who was accused of doing this, like setting up this base and just trafficking children through it. Okay. So today, Dr. Goldsbury is the chairman of the board of Soder Global Ministries. Here is his bio that was featured on their website. It has since been updated, but this is back in 2013. You can see, like I said, we have confirmed this is in fact his father. And here is their website, their current website where they document their work in Eastern Europe. Like I said, I cannot make this up.
Starting point is 00:20:44 2005, again, before they had legal paperwork that we could find, it says they provided medical care in Albania through primary care clinics in baby nurseries and orphanages and schools. Now, I do very surprised to hear that because I recently read that Ivanka discovered Albania this year. Can you take it full screen so I can continue to read? In 2006, they provided medical care in Romania through primary care clinics in orphanages and schools. Please allow me to remind you that in these years, 2006, 2005, this is also when Tyler Boyer is out doing missionary work in this exact same region. In 2008, this one I just think is weird, they taught basic hygiene and self-care techniques to orphans and the elderly in Ukraine visited classrooms to provide education to the youth and adolescents regarding human trafficking, provided medical care through primary care clinic in a large state orphanage. 2010, they taught physicians in Albania basic and advanced life support skills in rigorous three-day seminar. They visited a shelter for human trafficking victims and provided basic first aid instruction. I just, guys, this can't keep being a theme. Do we agree that this is not, this isn't real?
Starting point is 00:22:08 do we all just got to get the sense that this isn't possible that everybody around Turning Point USA faith is involved in human sex trafficking organizations and in the region of Eastern Europe? And somehow, some way, it seems like they're crossing paths potentially, but they don't want to answer any questions like Erica about why I'm hearing from people that she's hanging out at the same office, model office, as Jeffrey Epstein. a woman that went down who was very close to Jeffrey Epstein because Eastern European models seemed to be being trafficked through her firm. Is anybody find all of this to be very strange that almost to the day that Charlie and Erica go on their first date is when Jeffrey Epstein goes down in 2019,
Starting point is 00:22:57 I think it was August of 2019 that Jeffrey Epstein kills himself? I can't accept this as reality. I can't accept that all of these people didn't know each other and got together like, oh my gosh, me too. I was there in Romania doing stuff for orphans too. Oh my God, you too? That's so strange. How amazing. How godly.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Too amazing, guys. Too amazing to be believed. Everyone at Turning Point USA just has this bizarre connection to Romania and Ukraine and orphans. And I just can't shake this feeling that they all somehow knew each other. I mean, we know Tyler and Erica and Terrell Farnsworth. certainly knew each other. We know that for a fact. We proved that in our Erica Kirk series. We showed how they crossed paths, how they knew each other. But man, oh man, all of these pastors and the donors and Eastern Europe, it makes me uncomfortable. It makes my skin crawl.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And I'm going to show you where we're at right now on our connecting themes spreadsheet as we take a look at the Eastern European connection. That plane, don't forget that left on the day of Charlie assassination, the 8-88 plane, was formerly registered in Romania before it was registered there. And the owners of that plane today help with trafficking victims. In late 2012,
Starting point is 00:24:19 we know that Erica begins her Romanian Angels project and is working with Otto Busher in some capacity, because the U.S. Marines is where she's doing this on the U.S. Marine base, partnered with them. As she says, Tyler Boyer, we know in 2011, went to Romania to work with the Romanian government.
Starting point is 00:24:39 2013, Tyler Boyer posts a photo of himself with a Ukrainian orphan named Natalia. She doesn't speak any English and he claims to be helping an adoption agency program. I think we have that photo. I don't know if you have it handy. If not, no worries. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Like, that's weird. Like, do we look at these people when we go, oh, they're all just such great people? This is really what they're doing. I don't feel that way. Next up, we have a past, Greg Lorry's church, Harvest Church immediately. Erica went on tour after trial assassination with Pastor Greg Lorry.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And they are currently being taken through the court system because they are being credibly accused of trafficking in from Romania. Greg Lurie is not denying that something took place in Romania. He's saying it's not a broader church issue. It's just this guy at the church who was doing it. We'll see how that plays out. Andrew Colvett's brother, Curtis, is currently stationed in Romania as a lieutenant colonel, or he was stationed in Romania as a lieutenant colonel recently.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Tyler Boyer holds a degree in Russian studies. He's fluent in Russian, and he lived in Russia for two years and spent time in the Ukraine during that time. Rob McCoy also adopted a 12-year-old girl named Natalia from Russia in 2006. We already discussed Greg Galore. I think I had that point on there twice. Phil Goldsbury now, we now add him to our list. Soder Global Ministries in 2006. which does charity work. Did charity work at orphanages teaching people hygiene or something in Romania, Albania, and in the Ukraine? And we could go through all of the people who are somehow involved in the charity of sex trafficking, even up to their biggest donor of Turning Point USA, Nelda Buckman, extensively involved in rescuing children from being sexually abused and trafficked. Again, I'll ask the question, why does this make my skin crawl?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Does this seem normal to you as a theme that keeps coming up? I told you when Charlie met Erica, she brought the quote unquote faith. And she stayed with faith and she constantly involved herself in faith. And she guided him on who she should have around him. On the basis of faith, people like Victor Marks, who tells us his wife, Eileen, is like a mentor to her. Everyone is a mentor to Erica gives me the hebi-jeebies. And we're supposed to believe that Erica somehow different. No, because she gives everybody the hebi-jeebies.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Every time she speaks, people are going, something's not right. I don't feel comfortable around her. I just, I refuse to accept that this is a coincidence. It feels to me like a broader conspiracy. It feels to me like all these people know each other from another life. And they sort of infiltrated Turning Point USA. That's how I feel. But I have to say, bless Terrell Farnsworth, the CEO of Visual Impulse,
Starting point is 00:27:34 longtime audio and visual guy for Charlie and Turning Point USA, who was an absolute nervous wreck. When I spoke to him by phone following the assassination, it was Terrell single-handedly, who was the person who made me realize that something was very wrong with September 10th. His mere presence there, that was new. His assertion to me that they were trying something new,
Starting point is 00:27:56 that's why he started going to these sorts of events that required him to oversee the audio division. His absurd claim, patently absurd claim, that he did not know how to send a video file, which then transformed into him expressing a bizarre fear that he didn't want to send it because he thought Google was going to hack him. Really, Terrell?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Because he also informed me, and this is why I say bless him, that they were live streaming the event. To the ops back in Phoenix. That's a direct quote, the ops back in Phoenix. They were apparently watching that event back live. Why, he told me because Charlie wanted the clips to be cut immediately. He was constantly
Starting point is 00:28:43 working to be faster and that goes some way of answering the person who emailed us and said, where was this being live streamed? That's a good question because that, that microphone must have caught something, right? Curiously, when I asked him whether or not those ops were stationed at the Turning Point headquarters, he told me no. Unclear where in Phoenix exactly these ops were watching Charlie die. Who were these ops? This should be a very easy data point that we can confirm, but we can't. Okay. We've exhausted every resource at Turning Point USA, employees current and former, and the response that we have received across the board is the same. They were told it was being live streamed, but nobody knows where exactly. How is that possible?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Why would Charlie not want the clips to be live streamed to his office if that's true? If what Terrell told me is true. Where was it going? Who was watching it? Who are the ops? Are they the real ops? All of this is tremendously interesting and we should get to the bottom of it. It makes entirely no sense that the police did not take a lot of this stuff into evidence.
Starting point is 00:30:02 The feds did not take a lot of this stuff into evidence. I mean, how pointedly ridiculous that they gave Erica the necklace back. And also, where are Charlie's clothes that he was wearing? Right? Where are Charlie's clothes that he was wearing on that day? Because if I'm Tyler Robinson's defense, I would be requesting that white freedom shirt that he was wearing. where I feel what was meant to happen is the explosive, the shaped charge was actually supposed to hit him in the chest. It was supposed to look like he got shot in the chest.
Starting point is 00:30:43 People wouldn't have questioned it because the blood, obviously, would have gone onto his shirt. People would have seen that and assumed he got hit in the chest. Where's that T-shirt? I don't see it listed as evidence in the court hearing. On the defense, I would find that T-shirt. and I would have it tested for explosive residue, which might be maintained in the fabric particles. That's assuming the shirt was even collected and stored by the feds,
Starting point is 00:31:12 because I bet it wasn't, given the fact, they didn't even store his handheld microphone as evidence. How is it possible that Turning Point USA has that microphone? Think deeply about how truly bonkers it is that the handheld mic, which contained that immediate blood spatter, that we showed you. It went forward. The immediate blood spatter is on Charlie's left hand, and it is on the microphone,
Starting point is 00:31:38 and the feds deemed it appropriate to give that to Turning Point USA so that they could put it in a glass encasement and raise money off of it. Make that make sense. Why does it seem that everything that contained critical evidence was immediately returned to Erica, Charlie's cell phone? The night before text messages expressing his fear that he was, was going to be killed. We're supposed to believe he thought he was going to be killed by a trans furry. That was it. That night before, he just, after having an argument and saying he was leaving the
Starting point is 00:32:14 pro-Israel cause and having a rabbi call him and Josh Hammer call him and he's on this group text and he's saying, you guys keep the money, I don't want it. He went to bed that night and he was worried about a trans furry killing him. And he texted his team and said, that's who's going to kill me. Have those messages been subpoenaed? Why was his phone given to Erica as opposed to being held in evidence. Charlie's bloody microphone given to Turning Point USA more broadly, given to Erica to soak over. Charlie's necklace. Everything was handed over to Erica. Why? I suspect, because they were ushering us into the era of the widow. No one can question the widow. You don't have a heart. What do you mean? How dare anybody question why she wants to wear her husband's
Starting point is 00:32:56 pendant? Why she wants to cry over the bloody microphone as she raises money to the highest bidder? How dare anybody question why she wants to be surrounded by the evidence to commemorate Charlie Kirk. That's the reason they're doing that. But let me tell you, it is high time that we ask questions about why she was given any of that stuff, and it would be very good for somebody to find out where Charlie's clothes are, particularly that white freedom shirt that he was wearing on the day of his assassination. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, right now there's a new generation of mothers and fathers that are rising up,
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Starting point is 00:37:03 network that would have been allowed to simply go down because he got arrested. That is on a man that they would have simply allowed to rot away in prison and said, okay, well, we got caught. It's over. And I have this deep suspicion that the Charlie Kirk assassination is connected to the Jeffrey Epstein world. I just do. That's how I feel. And every little bit of data that we We get further supports that from Tucker Carlson's speech, absolutely destroying Jeffrey Epstein, asking questions about where people's money was coming from. When you don't know how people are making money, it means they're not making it in a good way, no matter how much they dress it up or try to present themselves as a businessman. That is the story of Jeffrey Epstein. We were working on an
Starting point is 00:37:45 Epstein series when all of this happened. We were working on an Epstein series when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Charlie was asking a lot of questions about Jeffrey Epstein, and then he got a phone call from the president of the United States asking him to stop doing that, saying that it was making, why would, why would Trump tell him to stop doing that? It doesn't make any sense. I feel like the Epstein Network. And again, this is my opinion. None of this is a fact, but it is my opinion, given all the research that we have done over the past nine months. It is my opinion that Jeffrey Epstein's network re-emerged in the not-for-profit world, in the church world. In the church world, world in the pastor worlds because we all know that these pastors are not sounding right to us.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Their obsession with Israel, their nastiness toward anybody who is questioning the Charlie Kirk narrative when there are such obvious holes in the story, that means they have another boss. They are not committed to truth. They are not committed to the word, Jesus Christ. That is not what they are in the business of. They are in the business of psychology and trying to convince people that because they're holding a Bible, it's not possible for them to be involved in anything dirty. I strongly disagree with that. I think Charlie's assassination is exposing something much bigger than we could have ever imagined. Anyway, I want to show you another discrepancy, another September 10th discrepancy. This time, it is pertaining to CPR. You, you,
Starting point is 00:39:24 You heard Andrew Colvette earlier say, we showed you the clip of him on Laura Ingram saying about the necklace that it was removed as they were trying to save his life. Perhaps the implication being that that necklace was removed because they were trying to do CPR. Well, if you think they did CPR, you would be right and you would be wrong depending on who you listened to that was in the car on the way to the hospital. Here is what Frank Turrick has to say about CPR. We're just, we're cutting through intersections, you know, we're just beeping the horn. This is not an emergency vehicle. There's no, there's no lights. There's none of this.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And I go, we got to start CPR. So I try and start that. We were giving him CPR, but nothing was happening. It wasn't like if we had better first aid or we had better medical facilities or we were faster to the hospital. We could have saved him. We couldn't. So they attempted CPR and didn't work. Now here's Brian Harpole.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And he's not going to say that they attempted CPR at all. Take a listen. Frank's just praying out loud and Rick's praying. And I can hear just the car revving just going hard. And I hear Dan just calling out the directions to Justin. So he doesn't have to look at anything but the road. And, you know, we get there. Was CPR being conducted during this time? You know, no, because right now, I got to stop that bleeding. Yeah. No, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, heard conflicting reports, and I was a little confused by that.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like, we can't start doing CPR before the bleeding stop. And people don't understand that. Prioritization of care, right? And so it's like, I've got to get that bleeding stop before. And then I knew that we were not that far from the hospital. And the human body can, you know, I've got to stop that bleeding. Yeah. You know, I just got to stop the bleeding.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah. So that's another discrepancy, that they're not. not going to answer for. In fact, I think even Rob McCoy doubled down on stage. I think we have that clip and said that Frank Turrick on the way to the hospital conducted C.E.R. But Brian Harpole just said that Frank Turc was just in the backseat praying. Take a listen to what Rob McCoy had to say. That was Frank Turrick. He was covered in blood because he was giving Charlie CPR. Was he just in the backseat praying? Was he giving Charlie CPR? Actually, it's a good question, because Frank Turk then does say that at the hospital, Mikey was so great,
Starting point is 00:42:02 and they gave them scrubs and they all had to change because they were covered in blood. Well, why was he covered in blood? We certainly saw that he didn't touch Charlie while they got into the car. We saw that he got into the backseat. That would kind of fit Brian's narrative that he was in the backseat and wasn't too involved and didn't have blood all over him. Also, if he changed into scrubs, why were his kids still on FaceTime the whole time? They were just sitting in a puddle of their dad's pants and shirts.
Starting point is 00:42:27 while the dad was wearing scrubs. None of this is making any sense. None of these stories are adding up. And their answer to this is to simply smear people to threaten lawsuits and dissent cease and desists as if that's going to make us think that they're telling the truth. Nope, far from it. Far from it.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I just feel that Charlie was surrounded by complete and utter psychopaths, truly, because it does not make sense why you would not just simply answer or have a debate or have a discussion and clear some things up. And by the way, I want to say, there may be valid reasons for all of this. Like I said, there may be an explanation for how Erica was supporting herself, how she was flying around the world, living in New York City, why all of them are somehow connected to Eastern Europe at a time
Starting point is 00:43:18 where just to be clear, when you're in a country after a conflict, after a civil war and you're in a corrupt country, we know that trafficking takes place all the time. We know that these trafficking scandals are real. We know that there have been scandals in the past, which will unpack tomorrow, that our government and our military were involved in. There may be a valid explanation for all of that.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But the fact that they're not willing to sit down and clarify these points doesn't bode well for them. I don't think it bodes well for them. I don't think anybody looking at Erica Kirk, who is not somehow being paid to hold a positive perspective of her. I don't think anybody reasonably thinks that she's a victim. No, no.
Starting point is 00:44:04 She comes across like a player in this. At that best, as somebody who formerly worked with them said online yesterday, at best, she's very suspicious. At worse, she seems to be an accessory to a cover-up. Certainly a cover-up, because there's so many things that she could do to help clarify matters other than just perform and cry. She could give access to so many investigators that are on the ground,
Starting point is 00:44:31 who are just independent investigators that are trying to get answers to basic questions. She could clarify things that she's done in the past. She could clarify things that happened that day. She could show his text messages to prove that he really was scared that a trans person on a rooftop was going to kill him the night before. None of this stuff would impact the court case, so don't give me the crap about, well, what was going to be? how's it going to ruin your court case if it's the truth?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Actually, that would bolster your court case. Look, here's his message. Charlie was terrified that this might happen. And look, it did. He thought a transfired. He was going to kill him. He said it the night before, and then it did. Something's not right.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Anyway, on to something funnier that made me chuckle yesterday. I was just, like, scrolling through Twitter. And I always try to stay away from the pettier things about Erica that don't register as right, but I just go, okay, it's a little too petty. People talk about her outfits, wearing the glitter. pants and things like that. Yeah, it does kind of build a profile of somebody, but I have in my, certainly in our Erica series stayed away from her outfits and the things that she's wearing that are quite strange. I personally just say that I think her stylist is just deeply dislikes her,
Starting point is 00:45:39 whoever it is, deeply dislikes her. And it's their way to contribute to the investigation by styling her in ridiculous outfits. But I did see this tweet and it's something that in the back of my mind has been bothering me for a very long time. And I laughed so loud because I was like, okay, this is one little petty thing that I promise you I have thought for a very long time was strange. And this person just tweeted it. So I laughed. This is ingest, guys. But she wrote, can we just discuss Erica's signature for a minute? It's difficult to decipher, but she writes Erica Lane Kirk in the most psychopathic way possible. And I promise you, this little detail is, I've been like, what is this signature? Why is it like she's cross? And I'm,
Starting point is 00:46:17 crossing out her own lane, her own name, it just looks, it looks to me like when a kid in a scary movie, you know how they're like, they're drawing a nice little picture of their family and they're like, great news. The federal EV rebate is back. Eligible customers get up to $5,000 with the federal EVAP rebate on select 2027 volt and 2026 Equinox EV models. Visit your local Chevrolet dealer today for more details. I was like, that's what I get when I look at your screen and your shirt. Why is it scratched out? that. It's so strange. And then somebody in the comments, of course, because there's just so much psychoanalytical literature out there, of course, there's some behavioral analysis of people's
Starting point is 00:46:59 signatures and how they signed their names. And factually, this person showed the scratchout effect on the bottom that they have the psychological and behavioral analysis have studied signatures to figure out whether or not they could determine patterns regarding people's strokes. And there is something called the scratch-out effect, not the strike-through up there, but the scratch-out effect. Visually, a strike-through resembles crossing something out. And analysts often interpret this as a subconscious desire to negate, hide, or alter one's own identity. I am telling you there is a pocket of the internet for positively everything.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I'm going to submit my signature for behavioral analysis. I think my signature is okay. I think you guys have seen it. We used to have it in the corner of this thing. But my signature is like cursive, not strike through. Anyway, that just made me yellow ball because I was going, I promise you. I have had this very thought in back of my head, like, what is this bizarre signature? And someone said it.
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Starting point is 00:50:00 There's a reason the FBI lost their mind yesterday. Thank you. I am obviously deeply interested in all these topics, and there's another character that I want to introduce tomorrow to you guys, which shockingly fled us back to Bosnia and Romania. And human trafficking, and I'm personally of the opinion, that this could all be related to Jeffrey Epstein, like I said to you, and I cannot ignore the behavior of this administration when it comes to Epstein.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And I think, like, the rest of the world, our general vibe, our gut, our intuition tells us that Israel was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. like common, it feels like common sense. And yeah, I don't know what else to say. That's, that's what all of the evidence and all of the behavior points to is Israel's involvement. And that's who he was contending with in the last months of his life. Smallbird writes, quote, what's a paver emergency? Professional paper. Yeah, it's really funny when he says that, because I was thinking the same thing. And if a professional paper has never heard of a paver emergency, then something is out of order. Something is bizarre. And there were other parts, by the way,
Starting point is 00:51:09 of that interview that are just really funny where he kind of says that he was looking at people's reactions online. He thought, am I part of the cover up? And that's why he came out and started speaking because he realized, yes, everything that actually happened was weird. And they, especially sending a team before him to remove the soil and then bring him in to pave it because they wanted it done expeditiously. It's bonkers. Outside of literally destroying evidence, it makes no sense. And it's really scary to get to this point, I guess, in society where they just think that they have enough power and money to influence us against common sense. Like they can make up down and down up and go, well, all of this is normal and we'll just keep sending out Blake Neff to tweet and scream. And we'll send out Dana last to call people demonic who have basic questions.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And they can't sell Erica to the public. Oh, well, if you want to sell her to the public, she's going to have to tell the truth. That's it. That is it. Comments for today's episode, Lindsay writes, it blows me away how these people can face themselves in the mirror and the public after even just refusing to press this investigation, let alone likely be a part of his assassination. This is what true evil looks like, and I pray justice is one day served. It will be served. Like I said, they look sick. Lies are corrupting naturally. You can see their authentic success has been completely wiped away because people will not follow something that feels fraudulent. So they can, you know, but heads with people. I mean, I mean, they can brush shoulders with people at the White House. They can be invited to glitzy, glamorous events at Mara Lago, but they've lost the people. And that meant everything to Charlie. It's how he built the organization. And so it just becomes stuffy. And when things become stuffy, they can't thrive, they can't survive. So it's almost
Starting point is 00:52:51 better this way. It's almost better to have it unravel slowly. I'm obviously hopeful that one day justice is going to be served. And I believe it. Oh, I believe that because look how far. We are nine months into this thing, and we have 90,000 people watching this live on YouTube. They wanted this to end the moment Erica said, I forgive him. And it's not going away. It's getting bigger. And I think that because these people are genuinely sociopathic and psychopathic, they couldn't predict this.
Starting point is 00:53:22 This never featured in their plans that they might lose the people or that they were making early mistakes by, you know, pushing her on us too fast. And to people who do possess those qualities, this is their unraveling. To be liked means everything to them. And the only way they can be liked now is tell the truth and they're not going to do it. So sit back and enjoy the show because that is ultimately true justice for Charlie. He was genuinely liked and they are genuinely disliked. Zamet writes, hello to all the TPP USA 2.0 grifters in the chat, sending them my affection. That's very nice of you.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Thank you. And that was a very nice tip. And it's not going to them. It's going to me. I'll let them know that. Alison Barry writes, the only investigation is and has been done here by Candace Owens. The United States knows this. Other countries know this. Other countries know this. The world knows this. We will never stop going. Max. Thank you, Candice and team for the long hours that you put in for truth.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Thank you so much. And also to the smaller creators on YouTube, we've named a lot of them. You know, Nisi did great work. Everyone has contributed. Baron Coleman, Lionel. There have been so many people that have added different pieces to keep Charlie's story alive. And that's the, like I said, the greatest justice I feel like we can do. Our piece is to not let it go and to keep the pressure on this administration to file FOIA reports, demanding that we get these emails regarding her being an emotional asset. That is so explosive, the fact that the media won't touch that after we got that email is crazy. It's completely crazy that that is not a front page story that the White House correspondence in or the messaging was staged. that the Department of War
Starting point is 00:54:59 was artificially boosting Erica. Who took that video? Why is known in the media interested in determining the answer to that? We put out a $10,000 bounty. We still can't find out who recorded that video. It certainly wasn't the CNN woman who put it on her Instagram.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Anyway. Christy Rafferty writes, I want to know who decided Charlie would wear a white shirt versus the black that I've always seen him wear. If this was meant to send a message and it went as planned, a chest shot, the message would have been lost
Starting point is 00:55:28 with his usual black shirt. I do believe that the color of the shirt was even picked for that reason because we would have just thought he got shot in the chest. Just seeing blood pool underneath his shirt, I think, was the goal. I don't think it was ever meant to hit his neck.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It's just too stupid to try to sell that a 30 out six didn't go through a neck. I think that's the something that went wrong that day. There are a lot of things that went wrong other than even like the bizarre recording, them forgetting that someone should call 911. Hey, if there's a shirt,
Starting point is 00:55:58 shooting, most people would like keep running, not just like a few yards away and then call their mom and says like, and be done, you would call, try to get through to 911. In the filing against me, Brian Harpole asserted, I think he asserted that he called 911 or someone called 911 that. That I have not seen that in the release 911 recordings. Maybe there's a reason they're withholding some other recordings that happened, but the turning point team broadly didn't try to assist Charlie and didn't call 911. I'm talking about the staff, the Mikey McCoys, the Blake Neffs, the Andrew Seifer, another person who's been with him for a very long time. Everyone just kind of ran under the underpass and seemed like they knew everything was going to be
Starting point is 00:56:41 okay. That strikes me as unusual, and that's putting him oddly. Coco goes off right. I can't stop thinking about an interview with Andrew Cole that saying how Erica was called within a few hours of Charlie from someone very important and they asked what Erica knew and she said, I know everything. Erica had an interview using the same line, more signaling. Trump was the one who called her. That's that I know. Trump called her.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And that was probably a conversation between her and Trump. I mean, I think Erica knew Trump long before Charlie knew Trump. You look at her background, Miss Universe and pageantry. That was when Trump co-owned it with NBC Universal. There seems to be a running thread that everybody here somehow involved with NBC Universal and Mark Burnett Productions as well. That's been another thread that we've been pulling on is every, I mean, even Alex Clark, she was on reality TV. Someone was telling me I didn't include it in the spreadsheet because I just find her to be so irrelevant. But she was also part of Mark Burnett Productions when she did some like Tinder show in the past or something.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It's just interesting. Like they all kind of had these reality TV backgrounds and you start to wonder if Charlie's life. was a scripted reality TV show. I think it was. I think that's pretty obvious. But he will not die in vain. Cheeky Mama writes, I am Orthodox with a Romanian priest
Starting point is 00:58:06 and I don't have this many connections to Romanian orphanages. That's really funny. Sorry, I laughed through that. I'm Orthodox with the Romanian priest and I don't have this many connections to Romanian orphanages. Amen, sister.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I don't know. I don't know how it's possible. but they're just going to tell us it's all normal. It's just par for the course. This is what people do. Everyone just goes out and helps an orphanage in Romania, not. This is a network we're looking at, a global network. And you know what? Somebody told me this. I don't know if it's true. I'm just sharing it with you because it's my podcast and I'm allowed to. But it seemed viable, is what I would say, that the way that it works and the way that the United States military has been caught in these trafficking, global trafficking operations in the past is that what they first do is they send out the charity, right? They send out the people, like the Red Cross type people in an area that's been devastated one way or the other by war, by a hurricane, whatever it is. And they are the people that are effectively the scouts, finding where the children are going to be or whatever it is, where are they going to set the illegal shop? And then they send out the military because that's kind of like the brass and the support that you need to get these operations done. And there is, like I said, some historical support for that claim, which we're going to get into tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:21 when America did get caught trafficking in a very big way, and somebody blew the whistle on that, a very brave person. Anyway, we're going to discuss all of that tomorrow. I think I got everybody's... Nope, I missed one. Avery writes, they mentioned that there were hats, that there were hats that were taken off the table in front of Charlie after he was shot. If you could get your hands on one of them,
Starting point is 00:59:46 you could have it tested for explosive residue. May God bless you and keep you safe. I am certain that every piece of evidence down to the soil was removed that day. And the best bet is for someone to find that shirt, because if we find out that that shirt was washed, right, or that shirt was mysteriously given back to Erica in an open investigation, we will have our answer. Not that we haven't had it a thousand times.
Starting point is 01:00:14 We have our answer that something is very wrong with these Turning Point USA characters, and it grows increasingly wrong by the day. The more Blake Neff talks, the more guilty they look. The more that they carry on the show in the exact opposite direction of everything that Charlie believed in. The more that we recognize that he was surrounded by snakes and actors and performers. Who was directing it, who was casting it? Well, maybe it was the Mossad. I know they took credit for that a couple days ago.
Starting point is 01:00:42 We showed you they are the directors, the producers, they can infiltrate any organization. they said it not me. Anyway, best way to support our show. We have new merch available on the website. Head to cancannis-Owins.com. You can also sign up to the book club. You can get yourself the Stop Anti-Canicism Cup. Those things are selling fantastically.
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