Candace - BREAKING NEWS: A Woman Was Seen With Charlie Kirk's Shooter | Candace Ep 246

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Megyn Kelly is attacked for her statement about me and Tucker Carlson, We have confirmed that there was a woman with Charlie Kirk's shooter in the footage that was captured by houses in the area, and Netanyahu tells a group of influencers that the TikTok sale could be 'consequential' for Israel. 00:00 - Start. 01:28 - Addressing some theories. 04:52 - All the news faces in Utah leading up to Charlie's murder. 07:32 - The female accomplice and questions about who was involved. 25:45 - Netanyahu meets with influencers on how to control social media. 34:09 - Megyn Kelly attacked out of nowhere. 41:41 - Comments. GoldCo Get a FREE gold & silver kit! #goldcopartner http://www.candacelikesgold.com PaleoValley Get 20% off your order with promo code CANDACE at http://www.paleovalley.com/Candace PureTalk Save an additional 50% off your first month at http://www.PureTalk.com/Owens Nimi Skincare Save 10% off your order with promo code CANDACE10 at http://www.nimiskincare.com. Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The countdown begins now, ladies and gentlemen. I'm telling you that you can begin your timers because it is not going to be long until the media tries to convince you that Megan Kelly, yes, that Megan Kelly is Adolf Hitler. I'm not kidding. It's definitely coming. There is going to be some headline in the near future that reads, Megan Kelly is flirting with anti-Semitism. You can book it. Why? Because out of nowhere, and for absolutely no apparent reason,

at all, the agents, like I think of them as like Mr. Smith and the Matrix have around, I guess they're surrounding Megan Kelly and demanding that she makes a statement against me and Tucker Carlson, of course, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. It is so bonkers. I've got to show you what they are saying to her. Before we get into that, some incredible breaking news. We have now confirmed that there was indeed a woman who was with the shooter in the footage that was captured by the houses nearby the area. And for whatever reason, the FBI has not yet released or even acknowledged that that footage exists. This is absolutely huge, actually. I think this is the biggest thing that we have uncovered since the beginning of this investigation. So let's jump right back into this.

Welcome back to Candace. Okay, so a couple of things that I want to clarify right at the top here, because sometimes we get a ton of emails about one subject that we've already researched. And that is the case regarding, first and foremost, you're seeing a lot of this chatter going around about the renting of the state farm stadium for Charlie Kirk's Memorial Service. I think there were 90,000 people that attended and then spilled over. And many people online have speculated accurately, by the way, some credit to you guys. And in order to book a venue of that size, you would have had to done so in advance, right? Venue contracts do not just materialize out of nowhere for a space that holds that many people plus spillover. Now, given my many sources at Turning Point USA, I was able to quickly get an answer on that one for the public. The venue was indeed secured in quick order, but that was because they had help from

the White House. And Turning Point did not book that venue back in May so we can formally debunk that. I was told that the White House stepped in and put in a personal phone call to the event coordinator and they actually did already have an event that was scheduled and the White House simply asked those people

if they would be willing to move or reschedule their events. It was apparently supposed to be an RV show actually and obviously given the nature of the tragedy it was globally traumatizing to everybody. I think everybody was moved by Charlie Kirk's assassination, the people that held that space, we're willing to oblige it. So that tracks with me. That seems accurate. I just wanted to help you guys with that information. Also, another thing that I came across, and this is regarding

Phil Lyman's campaign website. You guys were asking me if we came across that. Yes, I did come across that. And I actually, in the short run, didn't think much of it because I thought, okay, well, he was running a campaign and he has a website and maybe people were writing in reviews and saying he was a great person. But yes, we were aware that George Zinn is one of just 20 people that is a featured endorsement. He endorses Phil Lyman's character. You can see that here. George Zinn writes, where to find a more caring man with uncompromising goals to make Utah great for generations than Phil Lyman. Not a politician who can be pampered. Phil has a knowledge of urban and rural Utah from every corner and community. Utah is in desperate need of true leadership and representation. And

Phil has the passion and the values to be a great governor. He needs our support. Now, I'm not sure what to make of that. I did want to use Wayback Machine to see whether or not that was a new entry. Maybe somebody is trolling there. And no, they are not. That entry has been there at least since, and I'm going to show you this on Way Back, at least since June 6th, 2024.

So I don't know what to make of that. Now, I will say other locals told us that George is in, for whatever reason, is very involved in Republican politics. Take from that what you will, meaning that he shows up to a lot of events. But, of course, Phil Lyman's people would have been controlling that website. Certainly should have been aware of his erratic character and maybe wouldn't want to have featured him on that website. I don't know. It's definitely something to consider. Some other things that are of interest.

Okay, yesterday we mentioned that apparently it was kind of everybody's first day on the job, right? 9, 10 was everybody's first day on the job, meaning that there were a lot of these recent and brand new hires in Utah that would all kind of come across and have to deal with this case. Cash Patel, I told you, cleaned house at the state borough. He then installs a person that has a long tenure in D.C., Robert Bowles, his first, case is Charlie Kirk's assassination. Why would he want to uproot and move his family to Utah after having grew up to Virginia for so long? I don't know. But that is the, that's the circumstance. Also, I told you there was a new CEO and therefore a new lead surgeon, Andrew Zenger, over at the hospital, the regional hospital that Charlie was taken to, although that was not the nearest

hospital from the university. And it also ranked extremely low in terms of, the most best equipped hospital, if you will, to deal with the sort of trauma that Charlie was suffering from a neck wound, obviously. So it's very strange. I think it would be interesting to learn whether or not that new CEO and surgeon worked on Charlie. That's something that I would like to find out. If you know that information, please send it to us at tips at canis Owens.com. Okay. That's not it, though. There were also some other new people, and I forgot. got to mention the judge that is in the case, that is overseeing the case against Tyler Robinson is Judge Tony F. Graff Jr. He was recently appointed to the 4th District Court in May of 2025 by Governor Spencer Cox. I was also informed that the coroner in this case was also brand spanking new. That name has not yet been released. I am told that person is new. Okay. And I have also learned, I've been told, that Charlie did indeed have an autopsy.

I wanted to let you guys know that because I saw a lot of rumors that were circulating that he did not have an autopsy. That has been confirmed. An autopsy did take place. By the way, you should know that in the state of Utah, in case you like me are maybe holding your breath that we're going to see that report, those reports are actually kept private. So there isn't going to be some big release outside of what maybe.

the immediate family members wishing for that and saying I feel like something's wrong and I would now like to release the autopsy report. That's the only way that we are going to be able to see it. That's at least what I've learned. Now let's jump back into what actually took place on that day because I'm starting to get a bit of a stronger hunch about things. We'll jump back in here regarding Shainer Broderick,

who is, according to Phil Lyman, a cousin who he refers to Phil as his uncle, cross-interviews. Doesn't matter. Their family members is the main point, and they know each other. And Shainer Broderick has, of course, mysteriously deleted all of his socials, except for Instagram, but he's wiped his Instagram, okay? Just deleted his Facebook and just outright deleted his LinkedIn page because I asked him a question before we even went live. That was his response, okay? Now, he did this not before I grabbed everything that I needed from his pages. I just had a suspicion that he might not be willing to participate, and I was operating under the assumption that he might just privatize his socials. So I instructed my team to grab everything

before I even made contact. Now, what I did not anticipate was that he would delete the content. Why would he delete the content? That part never wasn't tracking for me. It didn't make sense to me. Now, it sort of maybe does make a lot of sense to me. So you will recall that we had received a lead live on the show, someone paid money, to inform us that there was footage that the FBI was hiding, right? She wrote in, said, I have been trying to reach out to you everywhere. The FBI is hiding footage. The doorbell cam footage had more.

This is what the person told us. She said, the shooter is then seen changing his clothes. and he is with a woman, she told me. And then she gives me a name. And that name was another Lyman family member. And that's when my spidey senses started tingling. I'm like, okay, this is a lot of Lyman's now. I want to be very clear and fair to Phil Lyman.

He has been forthcoming about the fact that his family owned that property. Like they own everything there. That is not mysterious. He's not hiding that fact. UVU, in many ways, purchased the university from his family, right? that the acreage from his family for that university. But I did feel that if that is the case, obviously, and Phil Lyman would, in theory, be able to access that footage, right?

Be able to speak to his family members. And, yeah, I didn't want to come out and say that it was a fact that the woman, that there was a woman with the shooter, without any proof. We had no proof outside of this person and what she was saying felt real to me, definitively, but I needed something more solid. Well, we came across something more solid.

We reviewed the footage that Shainer brought her. Of course, we downloaded everything, but hadn't actually reviewed it, had white from the internet. And yeah, the proof is in the pudding, and I'm going to let you hear it. Now, to set this up, you will recall that Shainer and his close friends

that nobody knows, apparently. They were retracing the footsteps of the killer. They were at his grandma's house, he said, and he's speaking on camera with his aunt to set this footage up for you. And sure enough, you're going to hear right in the beginning, his aunt is going to mention that there was a woman who was helping the shooter,

and she's not sure whether or not that person wasn't accomplice. I know I would say if you're helping the shooter, you were an accomplice, but, somehow we all missed this in this actual clip that Shainer had posted and has since been white from the internet. Take a listen. If you tant time, how long it took him to get from that little part over to here, was way longer than it should have been. So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff, like if there isn't a compost.

Sorry, you're filming. And it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here. So you see she's talking about the shooter and she says I was wondering if the girl had given him stuff and then somebody off camera says, you know, you're filming and she says, I'm sorry that you're filming. But it's very clear. There's no question at all. In fact, leading into that, which we should have maybe cut that a little bit earlier, they're speaking about how she thought the FBI had it wrong. The timing didn't make sense to her. And she, that's what she started with. I don't, you know, the timing doesn't make sense to me because I thought that it took a little longer for him to walk. Let's play that. again, Skyler, just so they can hear it again. She says that there's a girl. Take a listen. If you time, how long it took him to get from that little part over to here, was way longer than it should have been.

So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff. Like if there isn't a compost, sorry, you're filming. And it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here. Okay. So we have the woman who was my source, who says, said that the FBI cut the footage and she was certain of it. And now we have actually the woman who handed over her footage to the FBI saying, I wondered if that woman was an accomplice. Ladies and gentlemen, what the heck is going on? Who was the woman that was with the alleged shooter?

Why wouldn't the FBI immediately release that? Now, again, you should recall that the very next morning on September the 11th, TMZ already had the doorbell cam footage. Okay. So that means that the FBI already had the footage, right? They would have seen that there was a woman with the shooter. And yet they chose during this manhunt, during this 33-hour manhunt, not to inform the public that they were also looking for a woman who this lady believes, she wondered whether or not she would have been an accomplice if that was his accomplice. What happened to this lady?

Who is the girl, the woman that was in this footage, guys? I don't know. What are your ideas here? Why would the FBI not tell us something so evidently crucial to this story that we have a woman that's involved? What does she look like? How old is she? I obviously did the sensible thing, right?

I reached out to Phil Lyman because it's his family and I asked him whether or not he would be willing to track down this footage for me. And he's not happy with me. He's angry. I mean, he said really not nice things to me. He started asking me if I had something to do with the shooting. Okay.

And I basically just stayed focused and said, Phil, okay, we showed your footage. I'm, he's very upset about cousin versus nephew thing. I said it's all irrelevant. If you're saying you actually want to help us catch the killer, right? If that's really where your heart was, if that's really why you injected yourself so much into this story, why wouldn't you, knowing how deeply I care about this, walk over while you're in the neighborhood popping by, walk over to your aunt, grandma, cousins, I don't care

whose house, and say, hey, you said there wasn't a call. that there was a woman, okay, that might have been an accomplice. Do you mind letting me see the raw footage so that I can hand it over to Candace? In fact, how about just giving me any of the footage that your family rushed to give a TMZ? Why did they rush to give it a TMZ? By the way, you definitely were at, you said you were at your cousin's house and that you hadn't seen the footage. You were watching it live with Kaylee McAnaney on Fox News. That's what you said during that segment, right? This is the first one I'm seeing this footage. So apparently you're cousin, close enough to go to their house, but your cousin decides to give the footage of TMZ

before you can even see it. Okay, maybe the feds gave it. That's another assumption. That's only two options. Either your cousin gave it to TMZ or the feds gave a portion of it to TMZ, which begs the question, why were we not told about the woman? Who was the woman? We should now all be putting a lot of pressure on the FBI to make a statement about why the woman who handed over her footage. I have now twice confirmed in her own mouth. and from a source that there was a lady in that footage with the shooter. So why are they worried about that being caught on camera? Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were filming.

What's not about? It's like everybody knows something that I don't know. And I want to be in the know on what happened to Charlie Kirk on 9-10. So you have any tips pertaining to who the woman was that was caught? Please let me know. I am going to try again to reach out to this family. since I don't think that Phil Lyman wants to assist me. He doesn't like me.

That's fine. I wonder if he likes truth. If he likes trying to solve this thing, that would be great as well. If he doesn't want to talk to me, I'm happy to put me to touch another journalist. But if you know something more and you'd like to reach out to us, please do. You reach out to us in social media. And I please ask again that you guys reserve not sending us videos and TikToks and links. But rather, if you have information, please use tips at candestowns.com.

I love you all. And I love that the whole world wants to know what happened. and I'm grateful for that, but there are just, there's only so much data that an inbox can take. And we might have to just make a second, a second lines what I think we should do. Skylight, we should talk about that. Okay, now we turn our attention back to the mysterious individual. That is next to Shainer, right? We discovered that one person was from Austria.

And then we're going, who's this goth kid that Phil has been clear. He does not know him. Phil Lemon does not know this individual. Could I help identify him? I told you it was unusual that our inbox wasn't instantly flooded with people telling us exactly who it was. Well, then we did get another hit on him. And a handful of you similarly found the same person that we did, a person going by the

name Robbie Hild, who was allegedly from Washington. Now, let me tell you why I don't think this is his true identity, okay? Because if this was just some kid who grew up in Washington, went to school in Utah, my inbox would be flooded with that name. And it's not, okay? It's simply not. Oddly, no one has come forward to claim that they know Robbie Hill. They're all just saying, I got a hit. I got a hit. This might be him. No one is saying they went to school with him. This is a young college student. He's allegedly, like I said, from Washington State. And no one personally can say, I know this person. How could that be? How could that be?

I'm going to tell you something. So I'm starting to get a hunch about things. and we're going to go more deeply into this tomorrow, but many of you guys have been sending those clues about the Azov Battalion, about Ukrainian, Russian people that were coming into Utah. There seems to be some organized movement, people that are being given new identities. Actually, one person wrote us and told us

that UVU in and of itself as a campus has an unbelievable amount of dedication. I mean, even the presidents, I'm blanking on her name, like majored in Soviet studies. Like they have a direct pipeline from Russia to America. It's very interesting. And yes, it is true. It is a fact that Tyler Robinson, we can't confirm that this is Mike Mitchell,

but there are old photos of Tyler Robinson when he's a lot younger visiting his uncle Mikey, okay? His uncle Mikey who is working with the Ukrainian Azav Battagia, Okay, this is a military man. And that gets really interesting when I start to combine all of the aspects of this case. And again, we are still in theory territory, but I feel like we are in strong, I'm starting to get stronger than a theory and more of a hunch that this was a military operation. And people that executed this are actually from overseas. And when you look at the aspects of the UVU case and their strong ties to that region,

things get really interesting. When you look at UVU campus and their strong ties to the CIA, things start to get really interesting, right? And I think this is a path that needs to be pursued, that these people have different identities and that they are perhaps all from overseas. And it turns out that there have been the New York Times has reported on Russian Ukrainian spies that are building new lives from themselves with new IDs in America, in Brazil. essentially what we're talking about are terrorist cells. I believe that. I believe that with the Ukrainian war.

Okay. And they always hack us emotionally. Oh, we need to have open borders. It allows them to get in people that are perhaps completely insane and deranged and they are in fact raising little militants and they're executing these programs. And let me tell you, if this is correct,

if this is sort of like a neo-Bolshevik militant tribe, then we need to be concerned. And spiritually, I can tell you how I feel spiritually, that feels right to me. I've been pleading with you guys to get your kids out of these schools. I am telling you that something very dark is going on. And I'm going to continue to stress to you that you need to take your children out of school. Home school your children. There is something dark that I am perceiving that is happening, not just in public schools, but in private schools as well, okay? Why our kids had to go. We couldn't get basic answers about somebody that had kind of fallen into the, through the cracks, and was posting Polish underground symbols.

Her parent was posting Polish underground symbols. And I realized something was wrong. Something was off. I'm showing you this just, this is like one headline. And this is translated from Russian, by the way. So the English here isn't perfect. But it is telling about white lotus sect of all things, for those you that followed the becoming Brigitte series and things that we have spoken about about this. White Lotus idea. It's essentially they're training fighters and that this has been declassified

and that they have these regional organizations, these all-Ukrainian organizations and that exactly what it sounds like that they're training of fighters, that it's really dangerous and my suspicion is that this is happening right here in America. It would make sense that there is global communication if they want to take somebody out. And it is also a fact, by the way, that Charlie was on a hit list. I also was on that hit list. Tucker was on the hit list. And actually, I forgot the name of the individual that worked for Alex Jones who got killed,

but he was similarly on a Ukrainian hit list. It's something that I think should be explored a little bit further. And like I said, we're going to go deeper on that topic on, we'll actually do that tomorrow. And we'll bring in the aspects and show you whether or not, you know, Uncle Mikey could be Mike Mitchell, could he be the detective, but I'm just seeing these recurring themes of the military, for whatever reason. I'm also seeing a recurring theme of child abuse and a recurring theme of people who appear to have changed their name and that are operating in the shadows and something is not right. Again, a theory that is now turning into a very strong hunch. More on

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you might share a perspective that Jews are controlling the media, that would be considered anti-Semitic. We would be called a Jew hater. Fast forward to 2025, and BB Netanyahu is now hosting an on-camera meeting with American social media influencers to talk about how they are going to shape U.S. opinion. I honestly, with my eyes, I was going, this can't be real. Like, they're not even hiding it anymore, right? It's like, first, it was a conspiracy theory. Now it's like, here's what we're going to do. Okay. And what are we going to do? How are we going to, how are we going to beat out all of these independent voices who are winning because they're telling the truth. So Deborah Lee asked Bebeena and Yahoo specifically about Charlie Crook's assassination

and the potential loss of evangelical support for the state of Israel because of it, which, by the way, is going to be the consequence of this. It will be the consequence of this because they lied after he died and it pissed me off. Okay. Take a listen to what Deborah asks. So something I would like to raise, which was actually my first published paper, was how you and the Likud Party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in America. And so specifically with Charlie Kirk's assassination, who was a big mentor of mine, who's my first mentor in the space. Evangelicals, from all my research, evangelicals are the reason that Israel has been supported

in public sphere outside of just Jews. So with Charlie's assassination and with the kind of trajectory that we see with, like, Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson, I guess I'm curious about what's another game plan if we lose evangelicalsons? evangelical support for the state of Israel. What's our backup plan to be strong, like, outside the diaspora? Okay. First off, I don't know why it's always me and Tucker Carlson. Why? Why is it always Tucker Carlson and Camer S Owens? But can it be anybody else? It's like, we have nothing to do with one another. I've been out his show twice, twice on his independent show. I just love Tucker. I do. I'm a fan. I'm not going to lie. But I feel like they're starting to think we're the same person. Tucker

Carlson and Candace Owens over and over again. But listen to Beebe's response because prepare yourself. What he is saying is that they are about to launch a psychological war on Americans. Take a listen to what he says. Christian influencers. He said, we talked about the woke right. He said, I call it the woke Reich. That's brilliant.

The woke Reich. Because these people, you know, they're not. They're not any different from the woke left. I mean, they're insane, they're losing. But they're actually meeting on some of the things. And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of the base of our support in the United States. That is being challenged systematically. A lot of this is done with money.

Money of NGOs, vast. Money of governments, vaster. Okay? We have to fight back. How do we fight back? influencers. I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that community. They're very important. And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools of battle. You know, the weapons change over time. You can't fight today with swords. That doesn't work very

well, okay? And you can't find with the fight with cavalry. That doesn't work very well. And you have these new things, you know, like drones, things like that. I won't get into that. But we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones are the social media. And the most important purchase that is going on right now is class. Five followers. Ticktok. Ticktom.

Number one. Number one. And I hope it goes through because it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the other one? That's most important. X. X. X.

That's successful. Very good. And, you know, so we have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. Now, if we can get those two things, we get a lot, and I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now.

We have to fight the fight, okay? To take, give direction to the Jewish people and give direction to our non-Jewish friends or those who could be our Jewish friends. Are we going to succeed with everyone? No. Will there be a strong counterpart? Okay, so like we're allowed, we're allowed to say Israel controls the media now. Okay, I think we're like that's just like on camera.

Now there will be no dispute about this. The fact that you have a foreign leader, it's incredible, you have a foreign leader who is sitting up there saying that he wants his agents. He needs the, he needs the deal to go through, which by the way, let's call out Donald Trump right now. Okay, all of the acting. We don't want China. We don't want China to own TikTok and I'm worried about your data. I know you wanted to hand it over to your Zionist friends. Okay, it was all a mirage.

Okay, it was all theater. Donald Trump has sold us out to Israel once again, okay? So he's saying, I want this deal to go through, and we know who's a part of that deal. It's Larry Ellison, who has made, he's very clear about fact he's an agent of Israel. Andresen Horowitz, the son of David Horowitz, David Horowitz, from which all of the connections, Prager Hugh, I could tell you the stories, Prager You, David Harowitz Foundation, and Ben Shapiro, all of them related in their beginnings in Los Angeles. So he's basically saying, we need to take over TikTok because what are they going to do what they've already done?

They're going to censor speech. The reason that they got on board, just like the ADL spokesperson said when he was caught on the mic was like, we need to do something about TikTok. And now they're doing the thing, right? They are going to take over TikTok and they're going to ban your speech. It's happening right now. The second that that CEO said she was a proud Zionist or maybe she wasn't the CEO, but one of the executives there that they installed immediately after.

She said she was a proud Zionist and, you know, spent time in Israel. We saw instantly that our content was getting strikes. You can't say anything bad right now about Israel on TikTok. And this is because it's what Bibi Net and Yahoo as well, right? They want to censor speech, which was something that Charlie was very worried about.

He was very worried about what Israel was doing to come inward on speech. And I have those text messages with him. And, yeah, so that's actually happening. We are going to be... we're going to become subject to a psychological operation. This is what they do. You can see it on X.

There's all of these, like, I call them military bots. And they're just like sock puppets who just say wonderful things about Israel all the time. You can see them in my comments. They're just like post the Israel flag over and over again. And that's what they want to subject Americans to. And they think that that is going to him a long run, bring people over to their side. It's the exact opposite, obviously. Okay.

It's so dumb to think. It's like, have you even gone through basic parenting 101? One, you're going to tell these people that they are going to be forced to like and support your country. They're most certainly not going to. Instead, they're going to see you as what you are, which is problematic. No business as a foreign leader speaking publicly about how you're planning to take over social media sites in America because opinion against your country has rightfully shifted. Okay? Because opinion has rightfully shifted against your country on the basis of your behavior, right?

like Charlie said, on the basis of your behavior, okay? You fall into every stereotype. The stereotypes wouldn't exist if you didn't behave this way. That's the reality. You're on camera. You don't, you have zero shame in saying this. You could have anything there, right? Like a person would say, wow, we want to get out the truth.

We want to be better people. We want to commit ourselves to not killing hundreds of thousands of children. And I think that people will start to like us again. And he's like, no, we just need to crush them. We need to crush speech by controlling speech in America. And that's what their plan is. Look no further than this random attack that Megan Kelly is going through, okay? For no reason at all.

And I was, I hate to say this, but I was laughing, reading Constantine Kissin's tweets and what they were saying to her because I lived it. I lived, I lived what Megan Kelly's going through. I lived what Charlie was going through where suddenly you realize these people that are pretending to be your friends, they're like, I'm your friend. to care about you are actually, like, agents, and that's why I say they're Mr. Smith from the Matrix, and they're real close to ruining your life if you don't do what they want, okay? So for no reason at all, I'll tell you how this transpired.

Megan Kelly tweeted her episode and said, listen to Charlie in his own words about what he was going through. And for whatever reason, Florida Dab, which is one of these like Zayo bot accounts, constantly tweets in favor of Israel, wrote this to Megan, we can pull this up. He writes, if you can't separate yourself from Candice Owens, many of us are going to separate ourselves from you. She didn't mention anything about me. He says, we do not have to align with everyone that claims to be of the right when their

motives and history are as shady as hers. Megan Kelly and I have no attachment. So the idea that he's demanding that she, what, make a statement against me is insane. She replies, she holds the line. She says, look at this. No, I have no obligation to, quote, quote, separate myself from anyone. I run my own media company and my own show. That show is where I express my own opinions

and I will decide what and what not to opine on. If you need me to condemn Candace or Tucker for their opinions in order to listen to me, then I may not be for you. He's a close friend and she is under enough pressure without gratuitous shots from me. My fight is with the left, not these two. Like, kudos to Megyn Kelly.

Like, what? And yes, she is friends with Tucker. They've been friends for a very long time. And yeah, I'm kind of taking a lot of bullets right now. So I thank you, Megan. for not just taking a gratuitous swipe because I'm breathing over here. But it's not enough.

So then they bring the other agent, Constantine Kissin, which, by the way, there's going to be a day right. It's release everybody's family genealogy. His is astonishing. But these are all agents of Israel. Let's be very clear. Constantine Kisten then jumps in

and says, here's the problem. Here's a free speech warrior, Constantine Kisson. The problem with this approach, which many on the right are taking, is that this is exactly how the left allowed in its own extremists, so we're extremists, to first flourish and then,

to become the face of the entire movement. If you agree with Candace and Tucker, people will respect that. But to many of us, their behavior is so extreme and so deranged that the idea that it can be simply ignored because your fight is quote-unquote with the left doesn't wash. You have always been a great principled, truth-seeking journalist. So too many of your admirers like me, the question might be, if you agree with them, fine. But if you don't, why isn't your fight with them? this is almost verbatim.

It's like scary to me because I'm like, are they, this is like military training. Almost verbatim, a text message that I received from Marissa Strite when I like retweeted

Max Blumenthal, I think once when he said something that I totally agreed with and then like all of the agents like Dave Rubin, all them are like, don't you see what you did? And they make it think

you're going crazy but they kind of pretend to be a friend and you're like, what did I do wrong? Like I just said genocide is always wrong. I just retweeted Max Blumenthal

something he said that was sensible and they come in and they're like, I understand what you're doing. I'm your friend, but I worry that other people are going to see what you're doing and not understand. And it just, you know, I want you to be okay. Because we're just wondering, like, we all agree that that's bad, right? So why don't you just say what I'm telling you to say, Meg? Or you're going to get it. We're going to ruin your effing life. That's the subtext, Meg. That is the subtext, Megan. I can promise you that. I lived it. I lived it. There's no halfway

with these people. I'm telling you there's no halfway. She didn't do anything. She shared her episode and said, if you want to hear Charlie Kirk in his own words, here it is. That is literally what they are responding to. And now they're going to pretend to be her friend. So she responds to him and she says, the more one insists that I say what one demands me to, the more committed I get in my refusal. This was Charlie. This was Charlie. He was like, I'm done. I'm just done. I'm digging my heels in because they know what this is. Okay, Megan is an adult. She's also quite brilliant. She's not going to fall for this. Should I call it babble? All right. Constantine kissing. and you're sitting here trying to,

oh, I just I love you, so much she's like trying to manipulate a toddler. She's not stupid. And he says, I demand nothing of you and in coming from a position of great respect. I'm simply asking why it is that you don't believe that lies told by prominent people on the right shouldn't be challenged in the way that we all challenge

lies told by people on the left. And she said, your response proves the opposite of what it purports to. She sees right through him. Of course she does because she's not a child. Okay. This is how the agents work. They pretend to be your friend.

And I'm telling you, if she doesn't buck, they will, they will there. We will whip you and you will buck by making a strong statement against Candidona's Tucker Carlson when we demand it. Then they will send the next layer, which is a full-blown press attack, the press that they do not control, by the way. They do not control the press.

That's anti-Semitic. I want to be very clear. Don't control it, but they will control it when they come after her. If she doesn't do what they say, watch that space, you guys. Watch that space. Okay, I want to make sure that I, I get to some of your comments because a lot of you guys have been writing in.

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All right, guys, what is on your mind? I always feel like I get in trouble in the comment section for some reason. Oh, I wanted to read this email that came in because Turning Point had the USU event last night. They went back to Utah and returned, made a big splash about that. And this person attended and wrote this to me. It reads, Dear Candace, tonight, which is September 30th, 2005, several friends and myself attended the TPSA event at Utah State University.

There was full agreement that all were disappointed. The event was scripted. The allowance of open dialogue was absent. and the entire presentation lacked authenticity. I'm happy to answer any questions about specifics, but if this is how TPPUSA is going to proceed, then it will not be successful. I fully agree with you that if this is the vibe,

the vibe that we're getting and catching right now, they're not going to be successful. You're never smarter than your audience. I say it over and over again. Everyone perceives that something is not right and we are not getting the truth and they are too mum. And I definitely know, I got received other emails,

of people saying that they felt that it was very much controlled. But I feel like it gets to a more broader point, which is that nothing that is fake will survive in a long run. Okay. And there's a lot of fakeness and gayness that's happening right now. And yesterday it's why I just went ahead and took a shot at the beast. I will not allow them to turn Turning Point USA into a company that is chilling for Israel. I have people that are telling me that they're handing out TPUSA faith packets.

And like Israel is mentioned eight times, someone submitted. it to me. I read it. It's ridiculous. And I know who's behind that. I do. And so I don't know where they're going if they're trying to sink Charlie's company. It worked, turning point worked because Charlie was authentic. Whether you agreed with him or not, I can tell you, Charlie authentically, when we started out, loved Israel for the same reasons. We went to Israel together. You know, he authentically believed and loved Israel. And then he authentically was. seeing what their tactics were, how they were trying to control speech, and he perceived them to be problematic, and it was their behavior that turned him against them. And the fact that they aren't just continuing that behavior now and just trying to pretend that the last part didn't happen, it sickens me. It won't survive unless there is more truth and we should absolutely demand it. There is a note here for my producer from Erica Mindle, who is an American-Israeli Jewish former IDF soldier, currently serving. as the, oh, that's her name, right? Erica Mindle, she is the public policy manager of hate speech,

and she's been at TikTok since July of this year, and she's like, yeah, whatever, I'm an IDF soldier. And it's now war, and we own this, we own this space. So, of course, the deal is going to go through if they're already putting IDF soldiers in control of monitoring our speech, which means we only have to get louder, and maybe we'll just choose a different platform in general, if this is the direction that they want to go in. Um, Basil Parhaus writes, hey, Candice, would you want to debate the more prominent commentators like Ben Shapiro, Brandon Tatum, and PBD. On the topics of Israel, Mossad, and Palestine, they all have hinted and danced around calling you anti-Jewish, genetically speaking, and excessive in their videos. I would debate PBD. I would debate Ben Shapiro.

I wouldn't debate Brandon Tatum because I love Brandon Tatum like a brother. And nobody wins in that scenario. I've just known him. Like I know Brandon. I came up with him and Charlie and I just know him as like a human being. And there are some things that to me are just like are bigger than politics. And so any conversation or debate that I'm going to have with Brandon will be treated in the same way, like the debates that I would have had with Charlie. You know, Charlie and I never threw each other under any buses publicly. And when we did disagree, we had those disagreements privately. And so the, I would say the same about Brandon and Tainham. And I hope that clarifies. A lot of people were asking me about Brandon. He has been there for me. He's been there for my

family. He's just, I see him as a human and not a political opponent. So that's my honest truth there. Rachel Day says, is it me or is it strange that not a single security guard pulled a gun once shots rang out? I am praying for you, Candace, and I am grateful for this reporting. We cannot claim ignorance here. Virtual hug from a homeschool mom just started the homeschooling thing this week. They're adorable. Yes, I think it is strange, actually.

I thought about that after the fact, and they seemed to know that not more was coming. Now, you could also, if we're being charitable, say that you're just so over. overwhelmed and you jump and you just are trying to save Charlie, but you would think that one person would have been guarding holding a gun, especially if you're trained to do these things and the amount of money that they were making off of Charlie because Charlie ended up buying during Point USA, ended up taking on that security firm. Yeah, you're kind of not the person that's allowed to freak out in those situations and a lot of mistakes were made and a lot of things have not been explained. The menagerie by Drie Lee writes one of Tyler Robinson's lawyer

Michael Burt, previously represented Richard Ramirez, aka the Night Stalker. Ramirez was in the same jail as Sean Penn in 1987, who was serving 33 days. How do you feel about Tyler's legal team? I've not explored that. I have been so hyper-focused. People, I know you guys have been like, have you seen this? Have you seen that? I want to solve who did this, right?

And I want to do it in a way that makes sense to me. I'm a timeline person. I'm very good at gathering data and intel, vetting that information that I'm getting and sharing it with the public in a way that they can digest. There's a lot of different rabbit holes that should be chased. That's definitely one of them. But my main focus right now is trying to figure out who else was involved on that day. Who is the lady that was in that photo?

Marzi writes, this just in the FBI just cut ties with the ADL after Turning Point USA criticism. They share a building. Just FBI and ADL share a building. They're one and the same. I hope you guys know that. They share a building, I think, in Connecticut. And also Israel is taking over ExpressVPN and other VPN websites. I always had a conspiracy about that.

I used to read ads for them, ExpressVPN, when I was working for Daily Wire. And in back of my mind, I was like, it would make sense that they would train us to actually filter. There's so much data. So they're like, actually, why don't you pretend that this VPN hides things and so that we know exactly where to look? And once I found that it was started by an Israeli billionaire, I was like, yeah, no, that's going to be a spying thing. That's how I felt at least. I was like, they're just going to see what you want to hide and go straight there. So you're basically taking on the process of filtering for them.

That's my conspiracy theory, one of many that I have, as you guys know, because you listen to the show. Lily writes, first, they made a false statement about Candace not being friends with Charlie. They pushed through their minions in the media. Now they planted a fake letter in the same New York Post and their minions. Candace must be up to something. Yeah, I know who had access to Charlie's laptop. and I have questions about that, but I'm going to wait for the financial report

to come out, which I'm not handling. And I got question marks about a couple of people of our Turning Point USA. And yeah, I think we should definitely be speaking about these shady pastors. I hope this is the year

of the shady pastor after Operation Mocking Pastor, learning why they can say we don't take money from Israel, but they take money from an agent of Israel or an organization like the international fellowship

of Christian and Jews, which if you go to their website, site. It's basically like, hey Christians, here's what you can do for Jews. There's nothing that's spoken about what Christians are going through. And they flood money into that and they get you to say that it's like a fellowship program, but then they have you like gathering pastors and paying off people. I mean, it's an ugly business. And I think it's about to all get exposed. I think it was a bad idea to kill Charlie Kirk. That's what I think. I think the devil overplayed his hand because that's what the devil does. The devil is arrogant. The devil is arrogant. The

has no friends. I remind people that the devil is an orphan. And what I mean by that is if you pledge allegiance to the devil, just so you know, he will turn on you too. Okay. You're only as useful to him as you are an idiot to him. If you're willing to do his bidding, he will play ball. And as soon as you are not, he does not care about you. You mean nothing to him. You are dealing with a true psychopathic individual who cares about nothing more than their own selfish goals. that's what I believe. Anyways, I want to, again, remind you guys that we have new merch. Finally, after so many messages, we made it happen. We should have done it sooner, obviously. We don't know, no, but we know. And soon, ladies and gentlemen, we will know, no. We will know, no. I'm a Charlie Kirk story. You can have to Candace Owens.com. If you'd like to buy merch, that's how you can support the show. We actually are not funded by any outside groups. We are taking influence from nobody.

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but only if you have a tip that can help us crack this mystery I do think that we're going to get into a Russian and Ukrainian angle here

for some reason some way somehow we'll see see you guys tomorrow You know,