Candace - BREAKING NEWS: Brian Harpole Sues Me! | Candace Ep 331

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

Brian Harpole sues me, signs show that our free speech rights will be crumbling soon, and Erika's wrongful assertion that I accused her of murdering her husband has motivated me to reveal some more tr...uth. 00:00 - Start. 01:22 - Brian Harpole's lawsuit. 40:45 - Response to Erika and what I told her during our meeting that led me to look into TPUSA. 50:31 - Mike Lawler and Josh Gottheimer introduce a bipartisan resolution to condemn me. 1:04:16 - Final thoughts & comments. Kikoff​ Build credit fast and get your first month for just a dollar at getkikoff.com/CANDACE today. Thanks to Kikoff for sponsoring us! American Financing​​​ ​​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99. BlockTrustIRA​​ ​ Get up to $2,500 crypto funding bonus with http://www.CandaceCrypto.com Purge Store​ Advanced Parasite Cleanse supports digestive balance and helps reduce inflammatory burden. Use code CANDACE for 15% OFF your order. Visit: http://purgestore.com/candace. Candace Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ClipsCandaceOwens Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:29 All right, you guys, man, oh man, so much to unpack today. First and foremost, I woke up this morning and I was highly upset. I had a little bit of a yesterday news hangover. I realized that I'm actually so not okay with what Erica Kirk did. She essentially put a target on my back by wrongly asserting that I accused her of murdering her husband. I don't think we can let that fly, right? No, her punishment is going to be more truth. I always say she is sentenced to more truth
Starting point is 00:01:00 and I have been keeping a little secret and it's time for me to reveal it. Also, I am getting the sense that there is something happening, something big happening. It feels like people are upping the crazy a little bit. Something is coming undone in the background. And on that note, the big news of the day
Starting point is 00:01:19 is guess who crawled from under his rock, apparently, and sent me a full-blown lawsuit. Yes, Brian Harpole. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe that that would grant me your girl, the power of subpoena. Let's get started. Welcome back to Candace. So let me back up. I was standing in Charlotte Airport about to board my flight to Italy last week, and I received an email.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Me and my lawyers received an email. It was randomly sent to us. It was something like a retraction demand, but it wasn't actually a retraction demand because his lawyer Brian Harpole's lawyer, asserted at the top right away that they were already going to file the lawsuit no matter what in four days. This was kind of just a nice heads up that these are our claims that we will be making. What? How curious.
Starting point is 00:02:26 What do you mean? You never communicated with me. We never spoke. You never issued any sort of retraction demand. You never answered me when I reached out. This is not at all how it normally goes. I mean, I'm pretty accustomed to how lawsuits work. In fact, I can tell you that's never gone like this, ever for me.
Starting point is 00:02:46 You send, hey, that's what you said is not right. Retract it or else I am going to sue you. Brian Harpole did no such thing. Okay. So before I tell you why I believe he is doing this, and again, this is my opinion, because this is a very curious strategy, I'm going to at first take you through some of the highlights of the demand, which was poorly organized.
Starting point is 00:03:10 but it is really just kind of summarizes the actual lawsuit, which he has now filed. In other words, I want to understand. He had the lawsuit prepared first before he sent me this notification type demand, okay? Pardon me. I also want to mention because it feels important that Brian Harple is using the same lawyer, the Daily Wire used to sue me in arbitration for two years straight. I'm not going to name the firm, even though the lawyer is publicly tweeting, and also has a YouTube channel, so it's not hard to find. But I will just say that's another coincidence.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I'm very tired of this guy altogether, mostly because he speaks like he's consumed helium. Anyway, let's get into Brian Harpoles stated grievances, okay? First up, he wants to sue me, be suing me, for maligning him when I suggested, well, when I stated that not having an end. ambulance on standby is inappropriate. It's wrong. I'm not kidding. This is what was written. It reads, in your podcast episode titled, Why is Everyone Crashing Out Over the Charlie Kirk Investigation, you maligned Kirk's security team, including Mr. Harpool, by stating, quote, in real life, when you spend millions of dollars on security, on your security detail, they don't have you sitting like a duck and forget to have an ambulance behind you.
Starting point is 00:04:37 This statement not only incorrectly calls into question the competence of Mr. Harpole and his team, but it defames Mr. Harpole by falsely accusing him and his team of criminal negligence by failing to render aid to Kirk after he was shot. Okay, so competence is a matter of opinion. Brian, I don't believe you can sue people for thinking that you're stupid or that you're ugly or that you're fat. I don't believe I can sue Trump for thinking Brigitte is the most. beautiful women in the world, more beautiful than me at the very least. It's not even close, as he says. And I don't think I can sue Trump for making the repeated claim that he views me as someone that is low IQ. So I don't know that competence is really a claim. Also, I would argue that it is almost a matter of fact that a security team that has paid many millions of dollars annually should have had an ambulance on standby at an event, especially when it was a part of
Starting point is 00:05:37 their normal repertoire to do so. Is everybody forgetting, I used to work for Turning Point USA. I'm fairly certain that almost probably at each and every one of my many events that I have done with Turning Point USA during a time period when Brian Hartpole was always a member of the security team, we had an ambulance on standby. So that actually felt exceptional to me. It is not my opinion that it is my opinion that not having one on standby, especially when the person that you are providing executive protection to, text you guys the night before and says, I think I'm going to be killed. It's my opinion that it demonstrates professional incompetence not to have an ambulance. I'm saying by in case anything happens. Sorry, Brian. I most certainly did not accuse you of criminal
Starting point is 00:06:23 negligence. That term did not come from this podcast. In fact, I hadn't even thought of that term until you put it all over a lawsuit. So we should just look that up and see what the definition is. I did. it says definition of criminal negligence is a reckless disregard for human life or a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe resulting in serious harm or death. Okay, unlike civil negligence, it is a crime prosecuted by the state, often leading to imprisonment involuntary manslaughter charges or major felonies. Okay. Thank you for introducing us to that legal term, Brian. What else is Brian upset about? Well, I would argue that the next point,
Starting point is 00:07:05 actually demonstrates incompetence, okay? Brian wants to sue me for something that I literally never said about him. Mind you, this was actually the very first point of the letter. It was dizzying. It reads, it is in your podcast episode titled Charlie's Angels or Demons,
Starting point is 00:07:25 you implied that Charlie Kirk's security team, including Mr. Harpole, had insider knowledge about Kirk's assassination. Specifically, you questioned how the security team knew that Charlie Kirk was dead before official confirmation. The false and defamatory nature of this statement is obvious, as it implies that Mr. Harple and his security team had only had foreknowledge of the assassination, but were also complicit in it. Want to know the truth? In that particular episode, we never mentioned Brian Harple or referred to him even once.
Starting point is 00:08:00 The episode, as it implies, is about specifically Charlie's chief of staff and Terrell Farnsworth, the head of the AV team. The specific quotation to which he's referring to is about Terrell Farnsworth because it was Terrell Farnsworth, who notoriously announced in a selfie video that Charlie Craig was dead like two minutes after Charlie went down. So when no one could have possibly known Charlie was dead. Okay. My full quotation, which for some reason is not included, was what were Charlie's closest friends and allies? and the people that were going to carry on the torch at Turning Point USA doing, oh, they were picking up phone calls like Mikey McCoy. They were already filming themselves prematurely announcing Charlie is dead,
Starting point is 00:08:42 but not a single person could have known that Charlie Kirk was dead. End quote. That is a factual quotation referring to the immediate actions taken by Mikey McCoy and Terrell Farnsworth. Thank you, Brian. I hope that clears that matter up. What else do you have? It looks like this next one is a bit of a double punch. He wants to sue me for describing his outfit, foremost, you'll see.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And then he wants to sue me for having ears and a general sense of compre-pension, I guess. Like, I'm able to comprehend the words that are coming out of people's mouths. I took notice that as many people did that there were conflicting statements made by Turning Point USA on that day. Now, there may be a valid excuse for those discrepancies in messaging. However, you cannot punish the public for noticing them. Okay, I'm referring to the drones. So this, this claim reads, in your podcast episode entitled The Great Exodus from Utah, you again falsely claimed that Mr. Harpo failed to render aid to Kirk after he was shot,
Starting point is 00:09:47 but this time you incorrectly claimed that Harpo failed to render effective aid to Kirk with his supposed to be medical bag. Okay. Later in the episode, you falsely accused Mr. Harpool of lying about drone availability, asking, is that how these assassinations happen? Together, these statements defame Mr. Harple by accusing him of being a direct cause of Kirk's assassination. Mr. Harple did not play a role in Kirk's assassination and did everything he could to render aid and assist Kirk after he was shot.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Okay. So to address that obscure medical bag claim, the full quotation from my episode is just a mere description of Brian Harple and his medical bag. I said exactly, quote, Brian is the one who then runs over to Charlie, and again, you recognize him because he kind of has that small supposed to be medical bag over him. I'm completely confused as to how that description is in any way defamatory. I just wanted to alert viewers to the fact that he was not just wearing a man purse and it was supposed to be a medical bag. That's it. Now, regarding the drones, Brian Harpull's statement flew in direct contradiction to the statements that was given by Frank Turrick. Okay? That's confusing for the public. Take a listen.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I spent thousands of dollars on drones last year and got the guy's license. But if the area lies in the Provo, Utah airspace, I can't fly. That's a 107B. We can't break the rules. And then you had secondary restrictions probably due to heavy foot traffic for the school. But I can't go in and break the rules. Anyway, on our way in, we had drone footage of the crowd building. And Charlie had it on his phone. I said, Charlie, I don't like this place.
Starting point is 00:11:35 There are too many buildings. Charlie just kind of brushed it off because, look, we have a security team, and he wasn't going to cancel an event. So we're driving in, Megan, and his team has drones up. looking at the crowd from above and they text him some video. And there's thousands of people there an hour before the start. And I said, Charlie, I don't like this place. There's too many buildings.
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Starting point is 00:12:22 Now, again, there very much could be a clear reason as to why these statements are conflicting, but you can't be mad at the public for noticing that the statements are conflicting. Also, did anybody actually fact-check Brian Harpole's earlier point? Because I did. He says, well, I can't break the rules. You can't fly drones in Provo Airspace. Well, I actually spoke to someone regarding that who has good knowledge of the rules regarding Provo airspace. And he said, yeah, you can't fly in Provo airspace, meaning around airports, you would have to get clearance. You can't fly near hangers. But you can fly drones in Provo. So his whole excuse of why he didn't even bring drones, we should probably take a second glance at. Again, this is according to a pilot, who I know, who is in charge of drone training. So a lot doesn't seem to be adding up there. You can clarify that, but you can't pretend that someone tried to defame you unless you're going to go after Frank Turrick. Anyway, let's actually pivot to the lawsuit because it is remarkable. Okay, the lawsuit itself is 69 pages. And for some unknown reason, he begins the lawsuit And I'm talking like the first few pages with strong support for Israel.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I guess that's mandatory. Candice is anti-Semitic, even though Brian Harple's not Jewish. I am not Jewish. Charlie was not Jewish. He mentions this just kind of sporadically in a paragraph where he's painting this picture that I'm a conspiracy theorist. They also mention we can bring this up here on point 19 that I don't believe the moon landing. Guilty is charged.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Guilty as charge, I think the moon landing was fake. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything if I'm required to believe the moon landing is real, but he just kind of mentions that. And then, you know, you got to have that random strong support for Israel right at the top, which is why also embedded is the mandatory picture of Bebby Net and Yahoo. You've got to let these people know where you stand on Israel before you even get into the substance of a lawsuit. So I appreciate that preamble. That's just called our standard constitutional preamble.
Starting point is 00:14:33 you know, he's with Israel. Okay, cool. I'm going to do that when I, when I respond. Let me say, I just want you know. I love Israel. Just saying that. I now want to draw your attention to the obscure argument that he is making, so just pages and pages of him just kind of painting a picture of who I am.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But he comes out and kind of makes this obscure argument that he is a private citizen. Okay, that's point 29. He's trying to assert that he is a private citizen. Now, let's take a look at this. despite two podcast appearances, Harpole remains a private individual and not a limited purpose public figure. He has social media accounts that he does not use
Starting point is 00:15:12 for posting content. He has no public platforms to effectively rebut or counteract statements. And his involvement in the controversy is limited to two defensive appearances. He did not seek publicity or attempt to influence public debate. Huh?
Starting point is 00:15:28 I'm sorry. First of all, why is he doing that? That's very important. Let's get to why he is trying to assert. I know I went on Sean Ryan, but I'm a private citizen. That's because he doesn't want to have to meet the actual malice standard, right? You're a public figure. You have to meet the actual malice standard. Meaning you have to prove that I knowingly published something that was false and that I did it and acted in total disregard to the truth. I knew what the truth was. And I said, I don't care. I'm going to publish this. It's a hard standard to meet. That would be in.
Starting point is 00:16:01 in my view for Brian to assert that he's not a public figure here, that would be hard because Brian did actually go and pursue not just any podcast, okay? One of the top podcasts in the world, the Sean Ryan podcast, and he opened himself up. What is the law in the books when you do that? The rule is that private citizens can indeed become limited purpose public figures when they voluntarily thrust themselves into the forefront of a particular public controversy to influence its outcome. In such cases, they are considered public figures only for the context of that specific issue
Starting point is 00:16:42 and for a limited time. That's exactly what Brian Harple did. Okay, he went and he's going to argue. Well, I did it defensively. You went on a public platform and you gave information about what the security already did, all these questions that were being asked, and you're going to claim, which he does, this is wild, that the reason he went on Sean Ryan, this is crazy to me. He is saying that the reason he went on Sean Ryan was because of me. That is, that is beyond. Okay, let's look at this
Starting point is 00:17:14 point 28. On November 17th, after Owens and other conspiracy theorists had already implicated Harpole and his team in the assassination, Harpole appeared on the Sean Ryan show solely to respond to and to rebut the defamatory statements. I'm sorry, what? That's going to be a tricky one to prove in court, considered I never once mentioned Brian Harpole on my show until after he went on Sean Ryan. Literally, not once that I mentioned Brian Harpull's name on my podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I mentioned his name two days after he went on Sean Ryan, and it was in direct response to his disastrous appearance on Sean Ryan. His appearance was on November 17th. The first time I mentioned him on this show, was on November 19th. In other words, you elected yourself as a spokesperson for the security team,
Starting point is 00:18:03 thereby making yourself a public figure and I responded to it, okay? Here's where it gets even crazier, though, him pretending that I was a part of the early conspiracies against him. I did not believe the early conspiracies against Brian Harpole. Okay, not only that,
Starting point is 00:18:17 I went through great lengths to defend both Brian Harpole and Dan Flood without mentioning their names, because I didn't want the public to find them, when all the early conspiracy started flying, specifically the conspiracies were about hand signals. You remember? Frank Turk's doing hand signals. It looks like Dan Flood's doing hand signals. It looks like Brian Harpole was doing hand signals behind his back. And they're all looped in. I didn't believe it. I genuinely didn't believe it. I didn't believe any of these people had anything to do with anything because I knew turning point.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And so I spoke to Andrew Colvette on the phone about how I did not believe any of that. And Andrew asked me if I would be willing to say something publicly on my podcast to that effect because they were getting hammered And I said, of course I will. These are good guys. Here is the text message that I sent to Andrew Colvett following that discussion on the phone. I said, also, yes, I will say something about the security. I know them well, which is why I never bought into people saying that he was making signals. And guess what I did, guys, on that very same day in September, on this podcast, I defended the security team and Dan Flood and said that they were good people.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Here are my words. I know there's a lot of conspiracy theories floating in about the security guard and people thinking he was making gestures. I know that security person. He's a good guy. It would shock me. I usually get a vibe about somebody. Not that guy.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Not the guy that they say he's like rolling up. He tends to do that, roll up his sleeves. I don't buy that one. Okay. I don't buy that one. Wow. You're saying you went on Sean Ryan because of things that I was saying. And that's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Again, it was because of his behavior and what he said on Sean Ryan's show, which I found to be unconvincing, which is he's suing me for saying that that interview was unconvincing, which made me feel weird and take a second look. This has been a very natural process to me. I did not come into this a gun's blazing, so to speak, against Turning Point USA. And to get to this bigger part, this really feels to me like one big PR move. Okay. It feels like he's kind of trying to pull the Blake lively. He wants to make the claim that he's on a public figure. And that's specifically because a large chunk of his claims are pertaining to Mitch Snow, who he is also suing, by the way. And what is not helpful to his claims to sue me and Mitch Snow is the fact that I reached out to Brian Harpole personally before I featured Mitch Snow on this podcast. podcast, okay? So the story goes that on November 8th, I at first mentioned that there was someone who thought that they saw Brian Harple at Fort Wachuka that I, you know, examined the person's documents, whatever, I found him to be credible, as in I believed he said where he was,
Starting point is 00:21:13 where he said he was, when he said he was. It was a solo episode on December 9th. And if you recall, it caused mass panic. So I was intending to interview Mitch Snow and then craziness started, right? Erica Kirk did her stop, just stopped to her. She's out there saying, stop, stop. Privately, I was effectively being threatened behind the scenes not to speak to Mitch Schnell. They knew I wanted to interview him. And someone reached out to me. And this was coming through Paramount Tactical and the Valhalla guy. And they were saying, if you do this, if you interview Mitch, Mitch wasn't even in the military. He, like, they're running a different direction. He's a complete fraud. He's never been to Fort Huachuca. And if you actually interview Mitch, Ryan Harpole,
Starting point is 00:21:57 where he's going to sue you. That's what came down the pipeline to me. So before I even got to do the interview, Brian Harple was telling people to say that if I interview this guy, I'm going to sue you. And I thought that was completely deranged. I said, well, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Brian Harple has my number. Why is he sending out these random YouTubers? He knows who I am. I've defended him on his podcast. So I reached out to him before we hosted Mitch Kno to get his fuller story. And to say, hey, you're welcome to tell me that you just weren't there.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Like, what's up? We don't have to like, I don't want to host this guy. Like, why are you being all weird? I asked him then beyond that if he wanted to clarify anything. I sent Brian Harpole, I think a total of four messages. And I also sent Dan Flut a message. Again, from the day before I, or two days before, I interviewed Mitch Snow through to January, trying to get him to just say yes or no.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And he actually remarkably embeds these many messages. to him in the lawsuit. And that's going to be 0.54 to 55. He just embeds these into the lawsuit. Hi, Brian. This is Candice Owens. A lot of people are telling me that you're planting seeds regarding a lawsuit. I wanted to see if you wanted to have an off-record discussion with me about anything or if you'd like to simply clarify something that you think that I got wrong. You can see I followed up on December 19th. Hi, Brian, just again reaching out in case you want to clarify your whereabouts on the morning of September 9th, I'm only interested in the truth. So I would be happy to debunk Mitch if he perhaps is misremembering the faces that he saw, no response. I think they also put a third message in there. I don't know if you can scroll and see that or if that's not attached
Starting point is 00:23:42 yet, but like I said, multiple messages that I sent him. He just didn't answer. So why? Why didn't Brian Harple simply respond? Why didn't you send a cease and desist a long time ago? Why did you ask for a retraction. Here's another one. Hey, Brian, reaching out again to see if you'd be willing to speak about the morning of the night. I'm obviously not trying to do anything other than debunk Mitch so I can pivot and refocus the investigation, but I oddly cannot get you to confirm or deny if you were there. He's acknowledging he received these messages and he chose not to respond. Again, why? Oh, lucky for us, he's going to explain it in a lawsuit. And this is the wildest point of all. It's actually insane. It's an insane reason. In my view, it's insane to assert that this is the reason that you did not respond to my three messages to you. One message to Dan Flood. This is point number 50. Ready?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Sorry, point number 59, I think it is. Here we go. Owens soon texted Harpool a third time asking again if you would like to speak about the events that transpired on the morning of September 9th. Owens concluded her text message by stating, that she found it odd that she could not get Harpole to confirm or deny his location on the morning of September 9th. Owens already knew by Harpole didn't respond. Her repeated texts to Harpole to get him to respond to the defamatory conspiracy theories that she had been promoting present a cynical attempt to profit from a situation that she had manufactured. By spreading defamatory lies about Harpole and then bedrolling him to give her the exclusive content of a response, she stood to profit from increased attention and viewership to her platform at Harpal's expense. So he didn't reply with a yes or no because he didn't want to give me an exclusive yes or
Starting point is 00:25:41 no because then I would have made money on my platform. I didn't ask you for an exclusive. It would have put an end to me covering the story beyond. So actually by not responding before I hosted Mitch, It didn't allow me, didn't stop me from hosting Mitch. You also could have told Sean Ryan. You could have said, hey, Sean Ryan, I'm going to come on your platform, I don't want Candace to make any money saying yes or no. I don't want to give her this exclusive content. We're supposed to believe that's the reason?
Starting point is 00:26:15 What are we born yesterday? That's the reason? You didn't want me to make money? So you said, I'm just going to be so stressed out. I'm never going to say anything to her. This is in December. I'm actually going to wait until April. And then in April, I'm going to say, I'm not, I'm just filing a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I'm just filing a lawsuit. That doesn't seem, that doesn't ring true. That does not ring very true. Now, another interesting point of the lawsuit is he repeatedly claims that he's upset that I described him as having lied. Okay. Well, you certainly lied by severe omission by not letting the viewer. know that the text message that you were presenting on Sean Ryan were not between you and the UVU
Starting point is 00:27:01 police chief Long, right? Like when people were going, why didn't you secure the rooftops, you presented this text chain as if it was yours. In fact, you explicitly say I, the implication being that this is the reason I did not secure the rooftops. This text message is the reason. Take a listen to what he said. On Monday before, this correspondence went to Chief Long. Chief Long. We received this message today from the student group. There is a student roof access pretty close to where C.K. will be set up at the Utah Valley. The Sorensen Center has a couple of staircases that go up to walkways on the roofs. He comes back and the sort of for edification, the Sorensen Center was the building in front of the Lucy Center. And so he comes back and says,
Starting point is 00:27:51 you want access to the roof and came back and said, I was told students have access above us. If this is true, it would be nice to either have it controlled access or allow one of my guys to be there as well if possible. He comes back and his last correspondence was, I got you covered. What else am I to do? when a command level a person from an accredited police department says, I've got this area. What else am I to do? He is heavily implying that I did what I had to do.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I texted him. He said he had it covered. What else am I to do? And then we revealed on the show that he, those aren't even his messages. Those are Dan Flood's messages. And he admits that finally in this lawsuit that those are Dan Flood's messages. that was not an honest presentation to say what else am I supposed to do if you are not even on that text chain. So yeah, I view that to be a lie by severe omission.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I think the average person, a jury pool will say, yeah, no, that sounds like you were involved in this text chain and your excuse for why you did not secure the rooftops was because of this text chain. You never said, Dan got these messages. Here's what Dan said back. And what is so shocking about this is that throughout this lawsuit, he explicitly lies, the lawyer explicitly lies in this filing by claiming that I asserted over and over again that Mitch Snow was telling the truth about Harpole when in fact, no, I went through a great many pains to repeatedly assert publicly that I could not confirm that he saw Harpole. Okay. Here is just one of many examples on my podcast. This is actually when I interviewed Mitch Snow where I said, I can't confirm who you saw. Take a listen. And I want to be clear, I can confirm on this podcast live every step of your story in terms of where you went, what time
Starting point is 00:30:08 you were there, that there was this big meeting that happened. I've confirmed a location with other people that are on Fort Huachuca currently. I can confirm everything with metadata. I obviously can't confirm that you saw who you say you saw. Obviously, can't confirm that you saw who you say you saw. And like I said, I said it repeatedly. And even in this filing, in his own legal filing, Brian's lawyer accuses me of confirming Mitch's claim while in the very next paragraph he presents proof
Starting point is 00:30:40 that I didn't confirm Mitch's claim. This is 0.63. I mean, this lawsuit is a dizzying read. He says on December 23rd, Owens posted to X, Fort Wachuka confirmed. The body of the post claimed that she had proof that Snow was telling the truth about Harpole and contained a screenshot of what Owens claims
Starting point is 00:31:00 to be the incident report from Snow's visit to Fort Wachuka. Did he read my post? My post right here says, Find Your Favorite Podcaster who joined the psychological operation to convince you that Mitch was lying about having been at Fort Wachuka. Remember, Mitch said he was at first taken outside by Captain Neff and questioned
Starting point is 00:31:19 for a long time. And then recap what happened. I said, I always believed Mitch's story of what happened on that morning because he supplied overwhelming evidence with metadata and timestamps. Now we have the incident report. What we cannot confirm as of yet
Starting point is 00:31:35 is his memory of who he is convinced he saw coming out of that early morning meeting. We cannot confirm, Matt Sorrelson. We cannot confirm. What is this? what is this? What are we to make of all of this? What are we to make of this filing? What do you think is the purpose of this filing? I will, I'll give you my thoughts, my questions, rather. I can't know what is going on behind the scenes. I think the timing of this is strange. Like I said, the strategy here to never actually ask me to retract, to never present any evidence to the contrary. Hey, Candace, here's, uh, My receipt, I was getting a Starbucks at 9 a.m. I was therefore not at Fort Wachuka or getting a Starbucks at 730 when you sent meeting what's happening. Could I say any of that never did this, okay? I can tell you, though, via my experience with defamation is that there are a lot of lawsuits that are filed because people don't understand that what you put in a lawsuit filing is not always true, as I just demonstrated to you, right? You can write whatever you want, and people tend to take everything that's filed as a fact. It just, go, oh, well, like, case in point, Brigitte said I was a dual citizen of the UK.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Suddenly people start saying I'm a dual, I'm not a dual citizen in the UK. It's not a fact. Okay, you can just put stuff in a lawsuit. And I have seen over and over again examples of people filing lawsuits as PR strategies. I lived that with the Kim Klesig lawsuit. I said she was a former stripper, blah, blah, blah. She said, I have not. So she files this lawsuit and then says, this is proof that it's not true because I'm filing a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And people then started, oh, well, it must be true. She's filing a lawsuit. So, and then what ended up happening was she took it to discovery. And then she folded, right? She folded. I wanted to sign an agreement and say, let's walk away and not talk about it. When we started presenting the evidence of the strippers that worked with her and knew her, it was like, okay, actually, this was just meant to be a PR thing, actually.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And so I could keep claiming that this wasn't true. I've seen that happen before, okay? Is this that? Is this someone going, I just want to be able to get people to think that by following this lawsuit, means I'm telling the truth, I'm saying this lawsuit that I wasn't at Fort Watchuka. Why else would I file a lawsuit? Now everybody can just let the Fort Watuca story go because I said it. Like I said that Candace said things that she didn't say.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Like I asserted that Candace was a part of the early conspiracies when actually the exact opposite thing is true. I'm just going to put stuff in here and then I'm going to hand it to journal. which is what they do, and journalists are going to publish this and say, ah, proof, proof, proof that he wasn't at Fort Wattschuk because why else would he file a lawsuit? But maybe there's an expectation that it's never going to make it through the court system, that you're never actually going to have to present any proof of anything. Because the judge is going to look at this and go, no, she asked you multiple times, this is, I'm going to throw this away.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Is that the expectation? Again, I'm asking questions here. this feels weird to me. The strategy here feels weird to me. You're dealing with a lawyer that has full access to my lawyers in the state of Tennessee has been in communication with them
Starting point is 00:34:58 for two years. He never raises a single issue until the end of April? And then says, doesn't matter if we're finding a lawsuit. Is this a PR move? And if it is, how do we respond to it?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Well, I obviously just received a lawsuit a couple of hours ago and I am not there for at liberty to assert what we will or will not do because I have to speak with my husband and I haven't had the time to, you know, formally plead my case with him, so to speak. But what I will say is how many opportunities are we going to have? Are we ever going to have another opportunity to force depositions? Are we ever going to have an opportunity to have the power of subpoena?
Starting point is 00:35:42 He is making claims that he rendered first aid. This would give us the opportunity to then. and say, oh, Terrell Farnsworth actually has footage so the public has never seen from every angle. We can now take a look. We want to see this footage and subpoena this footage so that we can see what happened on the ground if you are asserting that you did provide critical aid.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Will we ever have an opportunity to do this ever again? Can we look at this situation where you're saying, oh, this conspiracy, all these people are involved, you're bringing up Tero Farnsworth, Mikey McCoy, you're bringing up these episodes where we discussed Erica. Can we now sit these people for a deposition? now demand these text messages? He's saying there's no conspiracy here. Can we now say, okay, well, we'd like to discover that. We'd like to actually look at all of the evidence and be able
Starting point is 00:36:34 to come up with an argument. And we're going to need access. We're going to need access to everybody's text messages if that's what you are asserting. If you are saying that I have defamed you and you are a part of the Turning Point USA brand, you're saying you're mentioning Erica Kurt. is this the only plausible path that we will have before us to get Erica Kirk is it for that position to answer basic questions that we've been asking for actually a very long time. If that's the claim that you are making regarding there being no conspiracy, is the power of subpoena actually going to be our only way. I'd like to hear your guys' positions on this, but I have not.
Starting point is 00:37:22 never been doing this for fun. Charlie Kirk is dead. We have been told a lot of lies, a lot of inconsistent stories from the people that are around him. They are, I would say, especially in this last month, there seems to be sort of a ramped up effort to attack people who have been asking for the truth in a reasonable fashion over and over again, extending messages to Brian, hey, come on the show if you'd like to. I actually didn't even ask them to come on the show. I said, you can just tell me what the truth is and I'll report on that. And they don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You don't jump and skip and then file a lawsuit. That's not normal. That is abnormal. That's not the normal trend. People genuinely want to not have the wrong information out there. So they ask you to retract the statements that you are making. Something's not right here. I get a sense that this, this,
Starting point is 00:38:18 feels like, well, we tried to answer about Fort Wachuk. It was a very serious lawsuit, but defamation's hard. That was what Kim Klasik said. Defamation's hard. So that's why I have a lawsuit feel. But as you can see, I'm telling the truth because I filed the lawsuit. I think we have to think on this. I have to talk to my husband.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I do think that this really may be the only opportunity that anybody who deeply cares about this case and genuinely wants truth will have. to be able to subpoena that information. The power of subpoena is, well, it's a power. It is a tool. And I've only ever been interested in getting to the truth of what happened to Charlie Kirk on September 10th. So we will pause there.
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Starting point is 00:42:01 George knew to Charlie and really respected him. They respected one another. And I have been thrust into the public and dealing with all of the smears, the attacks, the attacks, me, my family, my employees. This might be the only window of opportunity that we have. And I know lawsuits are expensive. That's the whole reason why they try discouraged, and they want you to always take the path of least resistance.
Starting point is 00:42:28 But you know what? My life just hasn't been that way anyway. I'm actually accustomed to it. So anyway, moving on, I had to said at the top that I sort of slept on this, this thing. Like, yeah, first off, do you, are you getting a sense about it was kind of,
Starting point is 00:42:44 like all plotted and planned for my birthday. Is this a weird thing? Like so much was happening in the universe. It feels like everyone was like, that's our date, April 29th. Go for her, go for her. First off, and I also want to let you guys know a little loophole. My priest does not watch this show. Okay, he is in London.
Starting point is 00:43:02 So I might be able to get away with not chilling today a little bit. And I'm not chilling, actually, because it was actually unacceptable yesterday. And I'm going to show you more of it happened. But of course, the big news was Erica Kirk, just coming out there and saying something that was so obviously untrue.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It was just so obviously untrue. Baron Coleman recapped this perfectly on his show last night and he was wearing the appropriate attire. Take a listen. So we have a series of questions. Like if Erica wants to remain at the helm, I think she has to be able to answer some questions.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Number one, why did you claim Candice said that Erica killed Charlie. She's never said it that I've seen. Oh, but bam, bam, bam, didn't you see the text message where she said, yeah, I saw a text message where she was joking around with a friend and she even put a laughing face on it?
Starting point is 00:43:54 I saw that. But no one assumed that's what you were talking about, Erica. Not a single person assumed that's what you were talking about. It sounded very clear to me, and I think it did to everyone else, because everybody had the exact same reaction, that you, what you were trying to say in that moment today is that Candace goes on her podcast,
Starting point is 00:44:16 or goes to speeches and she says, I believe Erica did it. I'll be the first to say, I don't think Erica did it. I don't think Erica killed her husband. Nor do I know a single human being that does. I've never talked to anyone who does. Talk to Candace. I've never heard her say that. Talk to a lot of these other podcasters.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I've never heard anyone say that. No one who's ever been on this show has ever said that. I've never said that on this show. I don't know a single person who believes Erica killed Charlie, not one. So what a weird thing to say? Why would you even bother saying that? That's a good question, Baron. Why would she bother saying that?
Starting point is 00:45:04 It was just like an attack from every angle yesterday. And thankfully, the internet just instantly rebounded and hit her in the face. The ball just hit her right back in the face, boomeranged, so to speak. Thankfully, everyone clocked her on that. And then you had Andrew with this ridiculous excuse. has he yet released the full conversation? The full conversation, the context of that, mocking that Ben Shapiro and Barry Weiss.
Starting point is 00:45:30 This is when you said it was joke of this private conversation about what you were going to say, leaning into what everyone was claiming. If you ask a single question, this is you obviously think Erica killed her husband. Now, let me at first also state unequivocally that I do not believe that Erica Kirk murdered her husband. I've never made that claim.
Starting point is 00:45:51 in public, sincerely, I've never made that claim. What I have said and what I stand by today is that her documented lies appeared to me to be rising to a level of conspiracy and that she should be questioned, okay? For lack of interest in exploring possible other options, instantly forgiving him. Was there for an influence?
Starting point is 00:46:11 She doesn't care. Not only that, but her team is attacking Jo Kent for asking that question, right? Her lying about Dr. Lee Trotter's words. That is significant. You are never going to remove that from the story, colluding with Andrew Colvette on an absurd man of steel statement and then flatly denying to my face that she did that. Throwing Andrew Colvette and Dr. Lee Trotter under the bus, okay? That's not normal. You're never going to make that normal. Donors literally telling me that she is lying about the audio clip that she presented at Amfest,
Starting point is 00:46:47 the one that they now assert that they are never going to show us the video component regarding Charlie Kirk saying Erica Kirk, I appoint my wife, Erica, to become the CEO. Donor saying that actually never went down. He never said that. It is plainly unacceptable that we have not yet received a response. They have not yet released the video to answer the claims being made by the donors that were in attendance. release the video that you claim to have of Charlie naming you CEO. Don't be shy now, okay? People won't believe it. You took us into the casket.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You had no concerns about what people believed or didn't believe. Now all of a sudden everyone's shy about a Charlie Kirk video. You're afraid people who are going to think it's AI? Does that make sense to anybody? No, it doesn't. Of course doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:47:39 That's why they're angry. Now, on that note, though, okay? Andrew then shifting foot immediately, shifting his feet immediately and pretending that that little private correspondence where we mocked Barry Weiss's insinuations, that that somehow accounted to me making a statement? No, no, no, no, no. Doesn't fly it with me. Doesn't fly with me. Like I said, released the entire chat. You have my full permission. And it must be met with the sentencing. You guys agree. You agree. I must sentence him to more truth, make an announcement. I must sentence Andrew and Erica to more truth. That is. is always, always the sentencing in this court. Now, what would be appropriate? What would be the appropriate level of truth to sentence you to?
Starting point is 00:48:26 I got it, okay? Now, since what you are attempting to falsely insinuate is that I went into that conversation with Erica on December 15th, already convinced of her guilt, which is patently untrue, I am now going to prove to audiences just how untrue that insinuation is, okay? with the private revelation that I made to Erica Kirk, information that I gave her that I would not have given to her had I immediately suspected her of her guilt.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I would have given her no information regarding this. And it was a private revelation made about you, Andrew Colvette. I don't know if they told you this. This is a really bad way to find out, but since you tried to surprise me yesterday, bam, surprise, surprise, surprise, shouty, as they say. You see, Angie, what I told Erica Kirk was that part of the reason why I suspected Turning Point USA and why I thought she should be looking into other people is because someone at Turning Point USA got a message out to me. And that message was that I need to look further into Andrew Colvette.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Wow, Turning Point USA people telling me to look further into Andrew Colvin. Was it Aubrey as he tries to insinuate? Wait? No. It was Mikey McCoy. Mikey McCoy got a message out to me via a third-party person that I should look more into Andrew Colbett. Why would he do that, Andrew? Why would Mikey McCoy say that I should look more into you? When I did look into, things got very shady. And that's when I started going, who the hell is Andrew Colvett, actually? He's obviously not a very good PR agent. And everybody can see that. It's a bit of a blubbering idiot. it. Who is Andrew Colbert? What are his ties? Where is family ties here? And the more I looked,
Starting point is 00:50:18 I did start to see more things. So as you pretend, like, we're all just conspiracy theorists and nobody had any good information. As you empire a bunch of employees, like I said, you still cannot produce the information that you are claiming that Aubrey Lich gave to me that I share on this platform. You were my number one source, Andrew, in the beginning. You just forgot the things that you told me, and that's when I started realizing things were weird, and then I got Mikey McCoy telling me to look more into you. After watching this show, I would say that I had a damn good reason to suspect Turning Point USA, that they were complicit in a cover-up of what happened. Anyway, good luck. Andrew, I hope you're having a good day. Have fun. Some more messages. Explain that one
Starting point is 00:51:09 to the press cycle. I think that's going to catch a couple of headlines. why would he say that? Switching gears, because it does appear that they are really just throwing everything at me, particularly yesterday. I didn't even know which way to look. Happy birthday to me. Good thing I'm built for it. I'm just built differently. Erica didn't just name me and put a target on my back and lie about what I said, but she wasn't the only one, right?
Starting point is 00:51:33 We also had congressmen in the House presenting a bipartisan resolution, name-checking, me. This is the headline in the Times of Israel headline I'm literally April 29th. I couldn't believe this. The U.S. House is considering a resolution condemning Hassan Piker. I've never spoken to that person in my entire life. And Candice Owens for
Starting point is 00:51:54 you got it guys. Antisemitism. Who's bringing this forward? Okay, we've got reps Mike Lauer and Josh Gotheimer. It's a bipartisan bill to denounce anti-Semitic hate-filled rhetoric.
Starting point is 00:52:09 though far-left Piker says that the move is making anti-Semitism worse. That is our subheading here. The resolution begins by condemning anti-Semitic hate-filled rhetoric and content that is disseminated to prominent online personalities. Blah, blah, blah. It tells us that whereas the rise of digital media platforms has enabled individuals with large audiences to disseminate disinformation, commentary and political viewpoints to millions of viewers worldwide,
Starting point is 00:52:38 such influence carries a high. heightened responsibility to avoid rhetoric that promotes hatred, violence, or discrimination against any group, including Jewish individuals and communities. On the same day, everyone is just suddenly signaling that speech is violence. Speech is now violence. They name check means, whereas Canisone says employed rhetoric that has included conspiracy theories accusing Israel of controlling the United States government. By the way, ironically, these two people, both of them brought this forward,
Starting point is 00:53:08 take more than a million dollars from APEC. Government's promoting false claims that Jews are taught by ancient religious texts to hate non-Jews in casting doubt on the truth of Holocaust survivors. I mean, this goes, of course I can't defend myself. They can just put whatever they want. It's a resolution. She made the anti-Semitic claim that the United States is controlled by satanic pedophiles who work for Israel. That's not an anti-Semitic claim. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Satanic pedophiles working for Israel were taught. talking about Epstein and everyone who has defended the Epstein class, okay? That is not explicitly Jewish. In fact, I have been name checking Christian Zionist pastor after Christian Zionist pastor. So do not put this on. This means you're talking about all Jews. When Donald Trump said, what are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? That is when he lost me entirely.
Starting point is 00:54:02 To my knowledge, President Trump is not Jewish, that pedophilia is satanic. that a satanic pedophile, like Jeffrey Epstein, worked for Israel. These are, this is abundantly true. This is not a conspiracy. The fact that you are passing a resolution about me and not the people that protect Jeffrey Epstein says more about you. It then goes on and says that I repeated false claims that Jews are killing Christian children. Where did I say this? Where did I say that Jews are killing Christian children?
Starting point is 00:54:38 Where did I say that? Nope, doesn't matter. You can just say whatever you want. It's Congress. This is like filing a lawsuit. You can just put things in there. I don't have to respond to it. This is going to be a part of record. This is going to be a part of U.S. history record as they bring this forth. And I have no opportunity to defend myself or to respond to any of these points. Beyond that, they then bring up, never, never ever forget that in July, 2004, I did not mention Joseph Mengele. And then they erupted by saying that because I said there was bizarre propaganda. that followed the Holocaust, which is true. It is objectively true, okay? I'm going to show you that's objectively true. They insert this in here. Never forget that even, I guess never forgot what's appropriate to say there, that even the Auschwitz-Berkernow Museum,
Starting point is 00:55:26 which has a podcast, asserted that there were lies told about Joseph Mengele. Not me asserting that they did an official Holocaust memorial podcast where they discussed where some of the lies and exaggerations came from. It's not a threat to Jewish people to acknowledge that some people lie, okay? That some people misunderstand. I'm going to play it for you. This is the official Holocaust Memorial podcast discussing Joseph Mengel. I just so you can just read what they are writing and then hear, unless, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:56:03 is Auschwish Memorial podcast, anti-Semitic? I don't know, but take a listen. I want to note that many myths arose around Mangala in the camp, such as the alleged sewing together of twins, which did not happen, simply because Mengela saw himself as a scientist, a theoretician, a man conducting research. Sewing twins together, as Vera Alexander mentioned, wouldn't make sense from a medical point of view, because Mengelah had sufficient medical knowledge,
Starting point is 00:56:31 and the medical understanding of the time allowed him to know that it would lead nowhere. So where did this legend come from? It likely originated from the fact that Mangala performed transfusions on twins without prior cross-matching tests. This meant, if the donor's blood didn't match the recipients, it led to death. To perform a transfusion, people had to be connected, not sewn together, but connected with needles and tubes so that the blood could flow. Therefore, this legend about Mangala, as someone who sewed children together, probably came from this. It's never too early to plan your summer story in Europe with WestJet, from rolling countryside to cobblestone streets. Begin your next chapter.
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Starting point is 00:57:46 They think that you are too stupid to understand a difference between anti-Semitism, normal commentary and debate. Also, by the way, there is an underlying assumption that you're too weak to deal with people who don't like you. Who cares if people don't like me because I'm black? I don't actually care. I don't care. If that is your underlying thought process that every time you see a
Starting point is 00:58:06 black person, you're like, I hate that N-word. I hate N-words all the time. How is that going to impact my day? Why do you, why do we care so much about what other people think about us? It's not a little ridiculous. There's just this underlying weakness that allows people who are actually tyrannical, people who are actually doing despicable things, people who actually support the Epstein files and want to protect that network of human traffickers. They pretend they're the good guys, they find people who are weak, can't take being called names. You can do it. Black people, you can do it. Jews, you can do it. Spanish people, you can do it. Asian people, you can do it. You can handle being called a name as long as you get to remain free. That's more important.
Starting point is 00:58:52 They are trying to flip that on its head so they can usher in tyranny. They want Europe. They want what's already happening in Florida. Police showing up on your door asking you if you said, to tweet. Did you criticize Candace Owens today? She's black. Did you know she's black? It's racist. I got called the N-word every second of every day. Go on X. I don't care. It doesn't impact my day. I don't know who these people are on the internet. I don't feel threatened by that. Okay? You have a right to think racist thoughts. I know. I happen to genuinely not be a racist. But if people were racist, I understand the importance of making sure that we don't pass speech laws, and that is what is coming next because they have been signaling it for a week straight,
Starting point is 00:59:35 full fire. Not just Erica Kirk. Also, Caroline Levitt came out and now is trying to equate speech to violence. Take a listen. This political violence stems from a systemic demonization of him and his supporters by commentators, yes, by elected members of the Democrat Party and even some in the media. The deranged lies and smears against the president, his family, his supporters have led crazy people to believe crazy things. Everyone who has a voice and a platform across this country, whether you're on television, a podcast host, you know, people listen. And when you have mentally disturbed individuals across the country who are listening to this crazed rhetoric about the president day after day after day, it inspires them to do crazy things. Laura Lumer is his top
Starting point is 01:00:27 advisor. Like, it's so crazy that they really come out here and they say this. unflinchingly after the things that come out of Trump's truth social posts, who is smearing and calling people names and dehumanizing people more, posting photos of me when I'm sick than Donald Trump. Does that now mean that if an act of violence happens, every fact that happens, I get to now say that this is Trump's fault? And again, like I said, it's being echoed everywhere. Melania Trump, she tweeted and said this about Jimmy Kimmel,
Starting point is 01:01:00 You made Kimmel's vote, a joke that happened before the shooting. It was hateful and violent rhetoric intended to divide our country. Meanwhile, Caroline Levit is talking left versus right. Is that not divisive? His monologue about my family is not comedy. His words are corrosive and deepens the political sickness within America. Does she know who she's married to? Maybe she doesn't.
Starting point is 01:01:21 You might not know. People like Kimmel shouldn't have the opportunity to enter our homes each evening to spread hate. This is laying the ground, ladies and gentlemen. for speech laws. They shouldn't have the opportunity. She's pretending it's about Jimmy Kimmel. You start with Jimmy Kimmel. If we don't defend Jimmy Kimmel,
Starting point is 01:01:38 which makes me physically sick, I don't want to defend Jimmy Kimmel, but I know how it goes. You start outward, you pretend it's legitimate. Trump survives this assassination. We have to quick, quick into chaos. We have to just get these speech laws passed. Then they come inward.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And they come inward. And then it's like grandma tweeted that this person was ugly and suddenly you've got people knocking on your door. We can't have that. You know who was very opposed to that? Charlie Kirk was. I tweeted this and I'm glad to see that it's trending.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Here is his tweet about alleged hate speech, hateful rhetoric, said another way. He wrote on May 2, 2024. Hate speech does not exist legally in America. There's ugly speech, there's gross speech, there's evil speech, and all of it is protected by the First Amendment. keep America free.
Starting point is 01:02:33 That was his voice. I echo that sentiment. Charlie laughed at people when they made jokes of him, notoriously laughed when South Park dedicated an entire episode referring to him as the master debater. He cared deeply
Starting point is 01:02:47 about allowing people to critique him, allowing people to come and debate him and winning those debates. And if he lost those debates, which I think never happened, he knew that that meant that he didn't have the stronger argument. argument. So yeah, I agree. Keep America free. We right back after a brief break.
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Starting point is 01:05:31 He's trending every day on Twitter. We are almost eight months into this thing, and Charlie Kirk is still trending on Twitter, and they wanted this to go away. At the moment that Erica said, I forgive him, they wanted us to forgive him and move on. Referring to Tyler Robinson. We, to them, are the storied barbarians at the gate. How do we control this? We have built ourselves in the empire.
Starting point is 01:05:54 We control the media apparatus. We control the schools. and now we've got people pulling their kids out of school, talking about homeschooling, understanding how we lie for the first time, not looking left or right, but looking up and down, realizing how despicable these people are,
Starting point is 01:06:07 that, yes, of course, we are morally above them, not falling for their tricks about racism, sexism, anti-Semitism, locking arm, and realizing we actually don't hate each other, what we hate is this corruption. And it exists on the lefts, on the right, all across the Western Hemisphere. There is nothing but corruption.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And America might be the last stand for freedom in the West. If they get what they want and they begin passing speech laws, it's over. I mean that. So wake up, understand what's happening, reject it, right? Use your platform if you have one to speak out against it, write to your congressmen, the rare ones that perhaps are not bought and paid for. And if you have an opportunity to subpoena people for truth, maybe take it. maybe take it.
Starting point is 01:06:59 How many more lawsuits can these people possibly throw out me? A surprise lawsuit. Just never been done. Maybe it has. I mean, never been done in my life, I should say. Anyway, let's get to the top comment from last episode. We have Wednesday Coffee Rights. The fact that they gave you the most vile person of the year,
Starting point is 01:07:14 but not Epstein, says it all. And then some, oh, are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Yeah, we are. We kind of are. I'm sorry, Mr. President. Yeah, maybe he should have won that I felt. Like, I do have to say that I think being a pedophile ranks higher for being vile. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:33 What do I know? I'm just out here trying to use rich white men, as you said. Brock Jordan writes, imagine believing a lady on the internet is the most vile person and not the people dropping bombs on schools. Yeah, that was pretty vile, Trump, when you guys just like randomly dropped a bomb on 150 schoolgirls in Iran and then lied to us about it. ranks up there. That's what I would say. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:59 What do I know? I know nothing. That's why you guys, we have to squash the independent. They're so stupid and low IQ, but for some reason they're effective. And making people see us through the correct lens, I see. I would say people are seeing things for the first time.
Starting point is 01:08:14 The scales are falling off of all of our eyes. All right, to get to some of today's comments. We're going overtime today. Sorry, Baron. I know, Baron waits for me to get off. I'm actually, if you don't watch, If you didn't watch Baron Coleman's show last night, please do watch a show. It was a fantastic monologue correlating what is happening. And he holds a sympathetic view, much more sympathetic than I do, of what's going on with Erica Kirk. And he sort of correlates it to Joe Biden and just being insulated and people around you who just want to keep you where you are because it benefits them and they get enriched and everybody can see that it's not working and that you're incompetent. And then eventually they're going to have to admit that. And yeah, it was a very good. really good monologue. You should watch that. Also, he is going to do a follow-up. Obviously,
Starting point is 01:08:57 you know, Barron is a lawyer. That's his real job. It was a fantastic podcaster and just started this podcast, this process of podcasting full-time, but he will have a very interesting take on the lawsuit, which I haven't even finished reading. It's so crazy. There were parts where I just was like, this is insane. It's just there's so many lies, objective lies here about my intentions and my motivations. But that's the point of following these lawsuits. So you can send it to the press and say it's real and say it's true. And so therefore, I stated it, so it must be true. That is not the case. You can lie in filings. Let's just pointed out. Today's comments, Michael Jester writes, lawyer here. This money is for her legal fees. Thank you so much for that donation. Your attorneys and clients
Starting point is 01:09:39 suing her over opinions of free speech to be relevant should beware of a malicious prosecution suit once a defense verdict is rendered. You deserve it, and we should make examples to deter this BS. Yeah, you know, I even think part of the coordination was like, this was like Laura Luma, hiding money in a trust. She said I was hiding money in a trust, completely untrue, hiding money from Brigitte. Here is what's happening. Like they were trying to basically say, like getting out this narrative that like I was duping my podcast followers and they kept bringing up lawsuits strangely.
Starting point is 01:10:12 So I'm feeling like a lot of this may have been choreographed because this lawyer, Matt Sarlson, the one who speaks like he has helium, like he's just ingested some helium, uh, definitively was retweeting Laura Lumer. So that feels weird. That feels like everyone was kind of in a weird way, anticipating this lawsuit and knew that it may have been coming.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Um, and Trump was signaling, you should sue people to Erica. Anyways, Two Cent writes, why is everyone suing and not helping with the investigation? All of them had direct access with Charlie Kirk. Instead of helping they are suing,
Starting point is 01:10:47 who and what information are they protecting Go Max. Yeah, well, thinking clearly through what going Max means. Maybe that's how we do it. You can just start actually selling that Go Max gear, a hat or whatever it is now. And yeah, I know what my husband is going to say. I say this is very expensive. I mean, lawsuits to get to that phase,
Starting point is 01:11:10 hundreds of thousands of dollars. No questions asked. but truth matters and I have found that when you don't overthink when people really want money they tend to lose a lot of it right when your focus is money money money you tend to lose a lot of it and when you are focused on truth and doing the right thing like no genocide is always wrong it actually opens the door for you get rewarded in the end I think that's kind of been molested of my last few years this show has been tremendously successful and I did the right thing the harder thing but the right thing. And I feel like I am again being faced with that right now, that decision.
Starting point is 01:11:49 And like I said, I have to speak to my husband because everything has to be done together. So we'll see what we come up with and I will keep you guys in the loop. I think you can see where my heart is on this though. Keeping the faith with Father Joseph writes, the truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Just let it out and it will defend itself. That is very true. We are seeing that. And the truth has been very powerful. and that's what they're angry about, that they don't know how to deal with the truth being out there. Jen Common Rights, UVU, just requires you to fill out a form, which is titled Request for Authorization to Operate a Drone
Starting point is 01:12:22 with the Office of Risk Management. So did Brian fill out this form, and UVU denied it? If so, he can show us the form and the denial. Yeah. Like I said, he could have just disputed the stuff. I'm not trying to get the exclusive Brian Harple. You know, you're out here. Like, Candace needs the clicks to talk about,
Starting point is 01:12:41 Brian Harpole, like, what are you talking about? Why would you say these things? It's not true. It is not true. We want to be accurate. It does not benefit me. To be on a platform telling lies. You will lose your audience will no longer trust you when you do that.
Starting point is 01:12:57 They will just, they will be the girl who cried wolf. Okay. I want to be accurate. I'm open to being wrong. This is an investigation, an open investigation, so you're going to sometimes come up against the wrong information. but I have thus far not been given an alibi for the morning of September 9th, despite you asserting that in a lawsuit.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Again, she had his flights. The flights were for, what, 219, 119 in the afternoon from Dallas. Mitch says the meeting concluded at 7.30 a.m. There were flights that left Fort Wachuka and got back into Dallas by 10 o'clock a.m. So no, you have not, but I'm open. Give me the alibi. Give it to me. Give me the text message, the Starbucks receipts at the airport or whatever, wherever you were, or I guess not at the airport, because that was an afternoon flight. The coffee receipt from that morning. Like I texted you, I aimed to be accurate. And I was sympathetic to you. And I was wrong about you. That's what I will say. I was deeply wrong about you. My instincts were wrong. And I probably shouldn't have immediately defended you in the beginning, only for you to throw it in my face and pretend that I didn't. And that
Starting point is 01:14:10 as part of the early conspiracies. Good luck with Matt Sarlinson as a lawyer, by the way. We'll say that. Goops writes, happy birthday, Candace, you inspire me so much. Stay strong in God's strength. There is a purpose and everything. Just rest in his providence. I feel like even there is some providence to me having received my confirmation
Starting point is 01:14:27 and hearing that message, that homily about how, like, what it means is like you then really have to toughen up. You become a soldier for truth, a soldier for Jesus. And that happens. and I come back and it is like full-blown attack, someone from every direction. But I was fashioned for this. I really do believe that.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I believe that everything that's happened to me happened for a reason because I feel battle-ready, like battle-hardened from 2023, 2003, the things that happened. They pulled a carpet under my feet. They smeared me, tried to stop me from being able to travel to Australia. And so to go through all of that, it just makes you go, okay, I can actually now have a, I can deal with this. I know how to fight this.
Starting point is 01:15:09 We have the right players that are in place. And I have the support of the people. And that matters too, to know that people have my back in the way that you guys do here in the comments. Breeze writes, fight for fighting for Charlie. Thank you for keeping the story as alive as you have. Thank you guys for caring about the story. I got to think that he is watching, actually. And, you know, helping in any way that he can.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I also want to tell you guys a great way to support us. Obviously always is the merch store. Buy yourself a t-shirt. Buy yourself a hat. Go to canstones.com. Tomorrow we have book club and this will be ending the book, the secret founding of America, and we will then be jumping into my book, which I'm super excited about, which is making a sandwich. I love that book so much. You can, that's It's a signed copy bundle. You can obviously buy a regular copy available on Amazon. You can go to make him a sandwich.com buy a regular copy, a regularly priced copy and not having to buy a bundle of the two signed books and join the book club. That would be an amazing way to join us in discussion and talking about feminism and what the true origins and true intent of feminism was and is.
Starting point is 01:16:29 It may shock you. Ties in perfectly to everything. Anyway, you guys, that is all we have for you today. went overtime this week. Maybe because I was gone, I kind of feel like I owed you guys. You guys are always so worried when I'm gone. But I was good. I just don't post too much about where I'm going because there are insane people on the internet, especially when I am traveling with my family. We will see you guys for Book Club tomorrow. Otherwise, we will see the rest of you on Monday. Be sure to catch up with Baron Coleman tonight. We'll see you guys then.

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