Candace - Candace Owens x Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 171
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All right, you guys, the internet asks, and I am totally delivering on this Thursday.
You're not going to believe who I have in studio.
Right from the grocery aisles, Ian Carroll, who is blowing up. Do not
you're just not going to want to miss this conversation. Welcome back to Candace.
I can't believe you're here in the flesh.
I just, this is amazing.
You're taller.
Actually, I thought you were taller.
I have to say that.
You've got good senses.
Yeah.
As the internet's been finding out.
I was like, I feel like Ian Carroll's tall.
And I was correct on that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So much to unpack.
But first and foremost, there are a thousand things people want us to get into and about
because we are basically kind of on the same train, I would say.
I also love that you're from the left. And because there's this moment happening where people are kind of getting closer to the middle and realizing some things.
I think everyone's become a little bit more moderate and less enthused with Democrats or Republicans. Before we get into more serious stuff,
I do have to bring up, just to honor that listen to this show,
the House and Habit saga that you have been drafted into
and nobody knows why.
Where were you and what were you doing
when you got hit by a House and Habit newsletter?
I don't remember where I was or what I was doing.
Didn't really register that much. I got a text message? I don't remember where I was or what I was doing. Didn't really register that much.
I got a text message because I don't check my emails
and I got a, oh, I do remember who sent it to me.
It was like a aunt that adopted me sort of
that messaged me like,
did you see what House and Habit said in her newsletter?
It's like, I, and I was like, no, I didn't.
And I eventually I went and checked it out once.
I think it was actually once you started talking about it.
I was like, maybe I should see what she said in her newsletter. And it was just so out of left
field because I've, I've treated her as nothing but nice. I really enjoyed her. I saw her as like
a friend in the industry, had her on podcasts multiple times. Um, Oh, I didn't know this.
Yeah. Yeah. So I, I like guest host on a podcast called the club Maha podcast. And we had had her
in, I think two or three times as like a guest host, just like hanging out, talking, talking smack and just having a good time.
And I had no understanding that I was a bad person. Um, and I think the first dig was like
about like boys, like it was about the Joe Rogan interview and about boys sort of like
running the narrative or something. I forget exactly what she said in it, but it kind of was
like water off the back, whatever, this is weird. And then I started to follow what you were doing. And as partway through,
which is what I said in the video I posted that became really controversial is partway through
your video that first dug it open. I realized that I knew this Emily Hagan that you were talking
about. And I just put two and two together and I was like, what is going on? Right. And I immediately
went to her Instagram and watched like an hour of stories. And it was, yeah, game over at that
point. Totally insane. And it really was so accidental. And I had the exact same feeling
going into it as I'd been nothing but nice to Jessica Reed Krause. I did her podcast in January.
Then I look, Tucker also got sideswept for no reason. He similarly had her backstage at one of his events. And then suddenly there's this newsletter. And what bothered me about it was just how it was fundamentally dishonest is how I felt like saying trying to pretend that Tucker or instill this idea that Tucker is somehow being pushed by the Iranians, Iranian propaganda.
Well, I'm being pushed by Qatar. So, you know,
you've got to have a new thing, a Middle Eastern country to back all of us. Yeah. And then she
also totally just lied in the newsletter saying that you didn't credit Whitney Webb. I mean,
you fell over yourself to credit her everywhere, even on X when Whitney Webb said you got it wrong,
crediting her on Joe Rogan. You did this long thread saying everyone should buy her book. And this is where I learned so much. And she's done so
much research. And I'm going, what actually was the purpose of this newsletter other than to
destroy relationships, to go after allies or because somebody was explicitly asking you in
the background to do it? But what ensued, I think, on Instagram after was very real housewives. And
I just did not see it coming for her to be so vitriolic towards what should have just
been political banter and trying to understand what was happening.
But then there was another layer of it where you and I have discussed this now off camera.
It is a totally dishonest for her to be telling people right now that or to be pretending
like she's this ally to
rfk she has said a lot of things about rfk and blackmail and the things that she knows about
his relationships and i know we're both trying to be careful not to put out too much but it's
quite serious yeah yeah it wasn't just coming all directions. And so it was during that watching
your, your video. And then I paused and went to Emily Hagan's Instagram feed. And so your video
had just dropped an hour or two ago. And that had inspired people that I knew in my network
that had been in Maha, that had been in MAGA, people that have a decade plus in this industry
to reach out to me and be like, I know more about the situation.
This is what happened.
And some of them were about things that House and Habit that Jessica Reed Krause had said during the campaign to them while drinking, things like that, that like it is hearsay,
but it's also like from very reliable people of direct interactions with her saying things
that you should never be saying out loud about anyone unless you want to spread horrible information about them and so i'm trying
very hard not to um spread room because a lot of his rumors of accusations of that person's a plant
or that person slept with that person or that person's doing that thing and it's like i don't
think that we need to be spreading rumors about specifics about people because unless you have
smoking guns that is extremely complicated to unpack but the totality of the evidence from people like from everyone from like maha moms to people in the
campaign to people that were on kennedy's direct campaign around him um stuff about everyone
involved and everyone has their own stories and their own theories and and it's it's not clear
which theories are exactly right,
but you start to get a sense of what the picture probably is. And the thing that I keep coming back
to is that it would be, and you did a great job of this on your show the other day, is that it
would be weirder for there not to be campaigns targeting Bobby than for there to be something
targeting Bobby. You would be a fool to think that there are not blackmail operations targeting him and trying to get control of him as they have done to every Kennedy
in the history of Kennedy's. So, um, that the totality of the evidence that there is some
layer of control, which is not a new thought, that's not some breaking news. It's the breaking
news was that the, the greatest unforced error in the history of like, I mean, I'm being facetious,
but like House and Habits unforced error here is out of control.
Like A, you didn't need to start this drama.
B, you didn't need to keep it going.
And then C, you didn't need to like
do every single thing she's done since then
has just felt more and more like
she's not being honest about what her real role is here.
Right. And I don't know.
I was hoping she would
just come forth and say, I was drunk last night and it was stupid, but she just keeps going. So
I don't think we can just blame it on the alcohol. You know, she started blaming other people for
their alcohol consumption, which is was very vitriolic. The stuff that she was doing to Denise
was wrong. And I pointed that out to her. But I do want to make sure people understand because you
can go a thousand different ways. You can go real housewives. You can go fight, you know, the fights between.
None of that really matters other than to state that there is very serious allegations about RFK Jr.
And the emails that we have received.
And I'm just like you where I want to be very careful because you don't want to just be putting out things that don't have any heavy consequence.
Because then you're actually hurting him.
And we all believe in this, like, make America healthy again campaign. Exactly. But also, no one willingly hangs out with Rabbi
Shmuley. And I think that that is something that the entire world can agree on. And the allegations,
I'm getting emails from people that worked with him at Children's Health Defense, which was
the big eye opener for me. I absolutely love that organization that he ran and it became the reason
that I didn't vaccinate my children. But the allegations are all the same. So what came from
Jessica Reed Krause's mouth about what he's got in the closet is the same as what's coming from
people that work with him on children's health defense, the same as people who were a major part
of this iteration of the MAGA movement. And I am concerned that he is, I actually believe he's
compromised. I'll just come right out and say that. And I'm not that he is, I actually believe he's compromised. I'll just
come right out and say that. And I'm not saying that as a, because I dislike him. I'm saying that
because I dislike politics and I just have to be honest with people that he is going to be limited
in what he can do because there is a lot of sexual blackmail there. Yeah. And the thing,
I don't know if you've seen Brett Weinstein's recent episodes, but he's been doing a couple of long podcasts, two hours plus lately.
Digging into one in particular a couple of days ago was a really lucid look at the different layers of what blackmail can actually be.
I think a lot of Americans are just now starting to conceptualize a blackmail in the last five years.
And a lot of Americans still think of blackmail as just Jeffrey Epstein or nothing.
And that is not the nature of this thing.
And Brett pointed out very astutely that a lot of blackmail in the political arena actually appears as friendship, probably.
As in, if you're a wild partier back in your day or you have sexual proclivities or whatever it is and you do something stupid and your friend comes to you and is like, dude, what did you do?
That's a huge mistake.
We shouldn't have done that.
Like, look, I'll help you cover that up. I'll help take care of this and make
sure I'll protect you from this and make sure it never affects your campaign. You just keep doing
you and I've got your back. Right. And that is like, oh, thank gosh, I have such a good friend.
Feels so good to have such a good friend. And then, you know, three months later, that friend
comes to you and is like, hey, listen, I really think that we shouldn't hire this person. Like, it wouldn't be a good move. And you say, well, I'd like them. And it's like, yeah, we shouldn't hire them. And we have a discussion about it. And then they leave the room. And then you think, huh, that person, I can't go against that person. That person is my closest confidant. And they know things about me that no one else does, how could I, I guess I shouldn't hire that
person. Right. And there's, so there's so, and that's just one example. There's so many layers
of how blackmail can appear in lots of different ways. And I personally, I think that Bobby does
have a strong soul and he does have that Kennedy, uh, uh, mindset of like, of his lineage and what
he stands for. And so I doubt he would be able to be blackmailed in an overt, like, do this or else
way, or at least not at first. But at first, maybe the blackmail is small. Maybe it's just simple
things. And you never know what kind of leverages people get over politicians. And eventually you
wind up with Rabbi Shmuley hanging out with you and declaring anti-Semitism the greatest
health crisis in America today or whatever it is.
Absurd. And this kind of really gets right to the crux of everything that's happening,
which is you're seeing actually the left and the right unite on this one topic of recognizing that it's really wrong what's happening in Palestine. And this is such, to me, just a
humanitarian issue, humanitarian approach.
And they're trying to win this issue with smears. And it's crazy. And you're a perfect example of
that. So you've really had, I would say, your come up. I love their narrative that he came out
of nowhere. He must be funded. No, actually, he's been on TikTok for quite some time going through
grocery aisles. I know that some older people were not on TikTok, and I'm kind of generation Instagram is where it stopped. But when I finally got on TikTok,
and you were a big deal on TikTok. I blew up on TikTok.
Blew up on TikTok, just going through the grocery aisle, talking about who owns what.
And then when the Israel-Palestine thing happened, you were very clear about your position on this.
And obviously, when Elon Musk and you got into that back forth, things hit another level because you were so sensible about speaking about why it is that Americans would not feel allegiance to Israel, which is our right. It is so weird that they think that they're going to try to psychologically convince us that we have no right to not support a foreign nation by calling everybody anti-Semitic. And then passing censorship laws. And then, yeah, we're just going to pass censorship laws.
350 million of you are just not going to be able
to say anything bad about Israel.
All you people that think that Jews control the world,
you know what we'll do?
We'll all pass laws that say you can't say that.
That'll teach them.
Like, clearly these people have never taught young kids.
When you teach young kids,
you learn that you can't tell young kids,
like you can't do that double think with young people these days. They see right through it. And it only enhances their
conviction and actually creates more real anti-Semitism as well as just, you know, basic
noticing of facts. There is that noticing of facts that's happening. I think this book here has done
more damage than anything that you or I could ever say. And I actually wanted to bring up this book, Chaos,
because they are totally,
Chaos, but just to be clear for you guys
that are watching this at home,
it was a CIA operation.
And they're doing it right now.
So if you're wondering why all of these random accounts
are suddenly saying that I'm funded by Qatar,
I absolutely am not funded by Qatar.
I'd like to be, by the way, Qatar, if you're watching,
like I'm not opposed to reading some ads for you. Like it's totally fine because everybody else works with you, including Bibi Netanyahu, who's going through a Qatar trial right now, which is the rich irony a book club here. The chaos was born out of LBJs. The chaos CIA program was born out of LBJ. So JFK gets shot. LBJ becomes president of the United States
and just reverse his course on everything that JFK was doing in terms of his foreign policy with
Israel. And he's getting them weapons. He's getting them money. He's and he wants war, war, war, war,
war. So we're right back in that circumstance where it's like war, war, war, war, war. We're talking about war with Iran. And then there were these natural student protests that were happening because people were against the Vietnam War. And LBJ didn't believe that these could be organic protests. He believed that if they needed to seed the public with this idea that these protests were actually a foreign infiltration. And so they began this operation chaos to discredit
people by pretending that they were foreign operators. And that's exactly what they're
doing to me, you and Tucker right now. And it's just amazing. And I'm like, guys, this is like,
you don't just randomly just say Candace is funded by Qatar. Ian's funded by Qatar. They're all
saying the same talking point, but while ignoring Bibi Netanyahu's trial for funding Qatar to give money to Hamas, like which is incredible.
So damning in so many ways.
And it's not to mention that.
So chaos is the one where they're like surveilling and targeting and smearing and libeling these protesters.
But that's overlapped over COINTELPRO, which was instated by J. Edgar Hoover more so, although COINTELPRO tactics are universal.
But that's actually causing dissidents to fight each other,
causing like spreading rumors about Black Panthers sleeping with each other's wives,
spreading, you know, salacious details that may or may not be true about Martin Luther King or other things. And to be clear, a lot of the rumors about Martin Luther King were probably somewhat true.
But just sowing division amongst the ranks and getting people to fight each other. So you can. And that was all enacted by J. Edgar Hoover, who was being blackmailed by the Jewish mob for his sexual perversions at the time. And so it's such a funny and tragic re write of like the exact same history is rhy we are right back in the 60s. And I want people to recognize that because I got to chill down my spine reading about the Black Panthers and COINTELPRO and
recognizing that they infiltrated these groups because their biggest fear, and this was the
entire thing behind the Charles Manson lie and pretending it was a race war that he wanted,
was they were very fearful of Black nationalists and white liberals coming together. And I was
sitting here going, oh my gosh, I have these beliefs. Like they're going through Black
Panther's beliefs in this book. And they're like, you know, they believed in the second
amendment that you should defend yourself. They didn't trust the government. They believed in
like they needed to keep like their families together. And they feared, they freaked out when
people on the left began supporting them. They
didn't want union. So they wanted to sow racial discord. And I think about why so many liberals
hated me because they thought I was like a self-hating black person. And I'm going, guys,
guys, read this book, read this book. Like the CIA is doing this all over again, trying to discredit
and trying to sow discord. And we really need to like stay together right now. A hundred percent. And it actually, it ties into another, the thing
that initially brought us together in content was Diddy is that once they saw how powerful this,
these black movements could be because black people have had such a bad, like go of it
politically in those earlier days, especially. And then through the civil rights movement,
they saw, oh my goodness, these people can really organize. These people can really put like project quality arguments and make a
difference. We need to figure out. And I'm, I'm, you know, speculating a little bit as to the
connections from A to B, but you wind up with black culture being propped up by a whole bunch
of black mailers and really corrupt celebrities that are pulling strings in order to promote the
most degenerate artists you could ever promote in order to promote culture that is a direct
pipeline to prison,
which is basically used as slave labor today by all the biggest corporations like Starbucks, McDonald's, Verizon.
Like you're calling your Verizon sales rep and some of those calls are going into prisons to people that are getting paid like cents per hour. So the way that the Black community has been undermined since the sort of 80s and 90s through rap music is a big part of it is so tragic.
And I think that the seeds are sowed in that time period of the Black Panthers being such a threat, not a physical violent threat in most cases, but rather a political threat. Yeah. And that's really funny because I was reading a passage in the book club yesterday or the day before, and it speaks about how part of this program,
they infiltrated the Black Panthers and had a guy who got really close with the guy at the top. I
think his name was Freddie, one of the guys at the top. And for months, Freddie basically said
they're not doing anything illegal, right? And they're not doing anything illegal. They're not
doing anything illegal. And they didn't care. And one night they had him drug him. They and the FBI raided and shot him in the back of the head and killed him just because he had a following. And this is what they're worried about with Martin Luther King. And so the biggest fear that they have is nationalism, true nationalism, like true America first. We don't want to be involved in your war. We don't care about what's happening in Vietnam. We don't care how close you are to Israel, LBJ,
and the unity that could come between white people and black people. And so I really recommend people are listening to this to read this book so that you have an understanding. It will make you will
force you to reexamine your relationship with the media when they're kind of using these tactics
against people that are clearly not being funded by foreign nations. Like they're just going to
accuse us of exactly what it is that they're doing,
which is committing themselves to a foreign nation.
I do want to circle back because of that to the point about RFK,
because I will say I kind of think, and this could just be me,
and this is going to get people upset.
But when I examine everything that I know about RFK juniors, about RFK's death, JFK's death, the truth behind those deaths, I do think he's a coward.
I do think there is no way you would have me wrapped in an Israeli flag running around with Rabbi Shmuley with the lingering questions and the facts that we have about what happened with these two particular murders.
And I just say that for me,
like I would have to die on my feet.
Like I couldn't do it.
I do.
I always try to remind myself
that there's factors I don't know at play.
There's factors that I might not understand.
But at the same time, you are right that
how grievous would those factors have to be
for them to legitimize this sort of an action from rfk
jr based upon what we know like what he knows about sirhan sirhan and like that's his dad that
sirhan sirhan allegedly killed right and you did a great piece on that the other day and um it it is
tragic that i i assume my presumption is that there's a compromise being made in his mind
of i can put this issue to the side if it allows
me to tackle this issue being like the vaccines and the health and all that. But then the problem
is that I put out that video that blew the world up and I'm getting contacted by like Maha moms
that have been involved in the movement for 10 years and by other people that were in the campaign.
And one of the main like rumor mill concerns is that the vaccine stuff seems to not be being taken seriously.
It seems like we are diverting to food over and over and over, which is good.
And that's great. And I'm happy we're getting food dye out of our food.
But let's be real. Millions of people were harmed and killed by this bioweapon that we know now was engineered by our government and our deep state and then was
leaked out of a lab that we were running. And then the vaccines were also already
like funded and helped make like the CIA helped make the mRNA technology that was used in those
vaccines. And then the liability shields, like the amount of evidence that is being compiled
as to the multibillion dollar profit and the multi-million
dollar death toll of this scam. And we're in that window right now where if they get away with it,
like I said, it's like a post 2008 feeling to me where if we let them get away with it for enough
years, no one's going to ever be held accountable and they're going to just go free with their
billion dollar paychecks and no one held accountable. And I can't help but wonder if the
movement has been infiltrated in some way in order to make compromises that you can do this,
but not this. You can get this done, but it's just politics. This is just how it works.
And I guess we just can't. Whoopsies. I guess the vaccine thing is too controversial to do now.
Which is crazy. Like this is the entire reason that people got behind him was to deal with this,
to give parents choice when it comes to vaccines. like to say, no, actually, no, you can't compel children and babies to get
vaccines in order for them to be able to go to school and things of that nature. And all of this
taking, it seems to me, a backseat. And I would say, by the way, as an extension of that, also
the MAGA movement, it sort of feels like they're doing the bare minimum for Americans and what we
actually put them in office for and then doing the absolute maximum for like Bibi Netanyahu's entire agenda while being like, oh, look, we did at least Tom Holman did get out 2000 criminals in the border.
We've stopped it.
And this is we've asked you for a lot more.
The mandate was a lot more.
And you seem to have in just three months done so much for Israel. You know what I mean?
If we could dedicate that same energy to what you promised everyone that you were going to do for
Americans, that would be great. But once again, we're left feeling like this is just a slave
colony. Yeah. And the fact that it's the movement is called America First originally, and that is a
stroke of genius because it is so hard. They're trying their best,
but it's so hard to make what they're doing look America first. And they're trying to do all these
backwards arguments. Like how is passing speech laws that that like in some cases criminalize or
at the very least, you know, kick you out of school, pull your federal funding. If you criticize
Israel, there are no laws about racism in America. There's no,
if you Google right now, there is no recognized definition of racism by our government. But if
you Google America's official definition of antisemitism, there's a whole page on the State
Department's website about antisemitism. And so how do you call this America first when we are
explicitly going against our first amendment of our constitution on behalf of
a different nation. And inside of those guidelines, they specifically say that saying that people,
Jewish people would have more allegiance to Israel than to America because they're Jewish,
that's anti-Semitic to say, while out of their mouths, they're saying, we need to do these things
for Israel, or like, I am a Jew first above all else. Things
like that, that are like, what are we, how are we going along with this cognitive dissonance?
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and getting them out of the country. And I'm just going, was I alive for BLM when the Trump
administration in 2016 took the approach that this was really wrong and radical and leftist when
people were demanding speech laws and hate speech laws for BLM? And we were talking about how wrong
that was. And now they've completely done a 180. This administration is in a 180 and they're like, but OK, but for the special category of Israel, we can
all of this is actually fine. Like woke is fine when it comes to Israel. Do you think there will
come a time because they do have these laws? Like if I go down to Florida, do you think like Ron
DeSantis is going to have me arrested if I criticize Israel? I don't know about I don't
know how fast it'll happen, but in Europe, it's already happening. And they, if you notice the language, the IHRA definition,
they've always been very intentional to say a non-legally binding definition, which to me is
a direct setup for where they're going. And this is something that people like, to their credit,
people like Whitney Webb have been talking about for quite some time that the surveillance state is vastly like the vast majority of the surveillance
state is built on israeli technology by israeli tech firms and palantir is a great example
palantir funded jd vance to the so those companies, they have massive AI-led
databases that are just surveillance maximal. And they have surveillance on our phones,
they have surveillance in our schools, they have surveillance in our EMS response systems.
And those databases are cataloging everything that we're doing. And we don't really have a
lot of transparency on what they're cataloging.
But when I'm looking at the policies and I'm looking at where Europe has gone with said
policies and I'm looking at the people that are behind the policies in America, I to me,
it looks like a direct walk from you are anti-Semitic to you support terrorists to you're a domestic
terrorist.
Now we have a reason to come after you.
And I don't think that America will stand for it.
I think that Americans are wise. And I think that we were raised on a culture of liberty and freedom
and freedom of speech. And I think that they're trying to do a thing that is impossible to do,
but it's only impossible to do because of people like you, because of people like Tucker,
because of people in the media. I mean, even people like Joe Rogan, who gets called controlled
opposition all the time, like he chose to have the conversation he had with me. He chose to have conversations with people about vaccines. Like people will only go so far. And we
have this media environment now where people that are wise and capable have enough reach to speak
out and to counter narrative. And if we didn't, I would think that we'd already be there, but I
think they're going to try their hardest because it is an existential threat to the survival of the state of Israel, which is an existential threat to all Jews,
is how a lot of people see it, even though that is anti-Semitic to say,
based upon their new speech laws. Right. It's just absolutely incredible to see this happening. And
I came up in politics with so many people who were fighting this BLM stuff, fighting these laws.
And I just feel like they've become massive hypocrites because all they want is access to power. And they're willing to pretend like they have a total blind
spot on this issue and just be consistent. If people have a right to say what they want to say
about any group of people, if they want to. And the idea that there needs to be some special laws
on the book that are now creeping into the territory of saying that your religion is anti-Semitic.
Oh, it's directly in the guidelines.
The Jordan Peterson teaming up with the ADL to produce a report that didn't even spell
psychology right, which was a tremendous embarrassment for that video to have gone out.
Oh, how the Peterson star has fallen.
I mean, that's been something to see.
And it's sad because there's no, I had no hatred at all when he wrote that.
I don't know if we have that. He helped red pill me in the first place. He helped get me thinking
more critically about my beliefs when I was a leftist started. And it was BLM that, that red
pilled me because I was living in Bellingham, which is like micro Seattle. And my roommates
were going out to like multi-thousand person protests in Seattle and then coming back and
being mass Nazis. And I was just like, what is going on guys? This doesn't make sense.
And I was watching the live streams of what was actually happening in Seattle and the chop in the
Chaz, like pallets of bricks, all sorts of stuff. And I think BLM is a good example of another
movement that probably right from the very start was infiltrated by these people that run COINTELPRO
and run these operations. And a lot of the black people that were involved in that, I think had legitimate perspectives and legitimate grievances that would
have gone about it a much different way had they been the ones solely in control of the movement.
But when you get your fangs in one of these movements early on, you can, and the CIA has
been studying this stuff since the sixties and before of how do you direct narratives to get
people to follow things like cults, to get people to sort of be brainwashed by ideas, not just through hypnosis and drugs?
Because that's how you get people doing your job for you, going on TV.
Even though you're not an operative, you're on TV vehemently defending Israel at all costs or vehemently defending transgenderism at all costs.
Even though your arguments make zero sense. And even
like the slightest bit of conversation exposes what's going on here. If you control enough of
the media and enough of the airwaves and you have enough people brainwashed to do this job for you,
you can really take a movement like BLM right from the start and push it exactly where you want to go.
And it's just so ironic to examine this happening under a Trump administration when when Trump ran the entire thing was they kept saying he was Adolf Hitler. They kept saying he was anti-Semitic. It wasn't true. They looked through every possible venue to to get this man dismissed because, you know, he can't run for president. He's this, he's that. And now he's allowing his administration to put into place laws to condemn the very people that got him into the
office on behalf of the people who tried to keep him out. Well, Miriam Adelson is going to get her
money's worth. That's for dang sure. Right. And so I just I always think back to one of the most
awesome moments in political history, which was Trump on stage in the first debate rounds in the primaries in
2015, probably with Jeb Bush on stage. And Trump says, those are all their donors in the audience.
And I couldn't get any because it's only seats for donors. And I don't want your money. I don't
need your money. And it was such a slap in the face moment. And that was it. Maybe it was the
same Trump. Maybe it was all an act. I don't know. But that if like that energy is long gone,
it's gone. And and I mean, I'm optimistic about some of the things that are being done right now. But a lot of people are right on the money that that Biden, whoever was behind Biden crashed so much, so intentionally, so obviously that it's hard not to wonder if that wasn't an intentional setup to lay the groundwork for Trump to get a whole bunch of easy wins, right? Because now Trump is coming in and Elon and him are doing all these easy wins that yes,
they are good at face value. And a lot of them are critical to have done, but they aren't even
moving us back past the baseline in some instances. And in some instances, they're actually
creating a major void where, oh, we don't need all these bureaucrats to work this job. We should
replace them with AI. Like we don't need all these people to do these jobs. We got technology that can take this over.
And this is where the people on the internet that have been sort of ostracized for a long time
talking about technocracy and about how we're walking closer and closer to this digital
surveillance state. It's never been a popular take because it goes against both parties.
But they've been sounding the alarm on Trump for a long time and I'm not ready to say
that they're necessarily right but I am ready to say that everyone should be paying attention to
this angle I think it's crazy I mean it's totally crazy for me to see the MAGA movement which
I thought was based on wanting you know to go back to how America was Christian beliefs hard
work and you know now we have a person who's effectively living at the White House
who has been very explicit in what he believes in. Like he wants data. OK, he is like he's not
in there because he's and everyone's, oh, you needed him for Doge. What are you talking about?
You need an accountant to accomplish Doge. This is so weird. And I think that the right,
our issue is that we glorify these technocrats in the same way that the left glorifies celebrities. It's like they're mesmerized by Elon Musk's money. They're mesmerized by his success
in the same way that a leftist might have been mesmerized by Taylor Swift's success and therefore
willing to listen to her political things. He's never been fleshed out. There's never been a tough
interview asking Elon Musk about how you're going to shrink the very same government that you take
money from, that all of your businesses rely upon, that you have contracts with, you know, and that's a very
important question to ask him. You don't need to, it doesn't need to be hostile, but what do you
believe in? It's not family, right? So if we're talking about making America great again, we're
talking about when we are on the basis of when we were based on our families and people were
not being replaced by AI robots and not aspirationally wanting
everyone to drive a Tesla or an electric car.
I don't want an electric car.
I want a gas guzzler forever because I know what comes with that is more control.
I don't want to shut your car off or tell you how far you can drive based on your social
credit score.
Right.
And I feel like Elon Musk needs to clarify what he believes on those issues because I
don't want to become China.
And I don't know that Elon Musk doesn't want to become China because that would enrich him. And I
don't. And when people instantly defend him, I'm going, Elon Musk was not MAGA yesterday. And now
all of a sudden the MAGA can't question like original MAGA can't even question him because
he's standing next to Trump. And so I certainly am questioning
the circle of actors that are around Trump.
And I have never felt good
just on my spiritual vibes
when it comes to Elon Musk.
I feel he's a part of the Peter Thiel.
We're just going to get all of these people
in line with AI
and it's going to be a tech future
and we're going to combine robots with
humanity and that will be that and we will do the thinking for you that's the vibe I get and so
there's I understand so coming from the left has been really useful for me because I I understand
a lot of the arguments on the other side this isn't really a left right thing but I I was taken
in for a long time and I still sometimes I entertain the idea that, yeah, technology is coming regardless. We will march on. And, you know, you could have a horrible person in charge of that transformation or you could have a good person in charge of that transformation. Elon has done an exceptional job, politically speaking, of branding himself as the good technocrat, as the technocrat you can trust, as the one that's for free speech at all costs though he's not and the one that like founded all his own companies and he's amazing but actually
he didn't actually do the work to found a lot of those companies like it's not exactly clear
how brilliant his mind is at in those companies and the thing that actually really started to
wake me up to it ironically is the video game scandal that he had where if you even realize
that elon was faking that he was the number like top 10 video gamer at the
hardest video game in the world? I didn't know it was fake. There's this whole scandal. It's fake.
And it's obviously fake. And people exposed it at length online that clearly he didn't know what he
was talking about. He didn't know how the items worked. Wait, wait, slow this down because people
might not have. I just recently heard from someone on my team about how he was the number one gamer.
So slow this down. In this exceptionally hard video game, the kind of video game that, and I'm
not super familiar with this video game, but I used to play a lot of video games and it's the kind of video
game that people will play thousands of hours just to be able to beat the third boss out of
30 or something i'm making numbers up but it's like an insanely hard video game and so it's
highly prestigious and he came to like he was in the top of the leaderboards worldwide um and then
this other video game diablo 4 i think it was same thing top of the leaderboards worldwide. Um, and then this other video game Diablo four, I think it was
same thing, top of the leaderboards, but then he started live streaming it and people realized that
he didn't even know basic things like about how this item works and about the strategy of how you
do this, like this movement thing to get the, and it was became, everyone was like, wait a minute,
this is not a top video game player playing this game. And then they dug in more and it came out
that basically the entire thing was, was a fake fake. And and the fact that you would construct some fake characterization of you as some top video gamer, which obviously you don't have the time to be conspiracy theory like where my brain goes naturally with him
is that it's all too impossible like you can't be running all of these businesses plus be the
number one gamer giving thousands of hours to some random game and then I read this rant that was
where I was saying it's none of this makes any sense and like we're just being told that he does
do all of this stuff but what if it's like, no, the government created all of that stuff.
And then they just handed it to Elon Musk
to be the face of it
so that people would be just adoring him
and allow him to do whatever it was
and allow him to get in there
as if he's just like a player
working for somebody else.
And I didn't want to lean into that,
but I genuinely just go,
there's not enough hours in the day
for all the things that we're supposed to believe
Elon Musk is doing.
He was able to just leave
all of these three big companies.
While having baby mama drama all over the place. Yes, all over the place. And then also, I just find him to be quite volatile in terms of his
treatment of people, like even the Ashley St. Clair thing. And I'm going to lead successful
businesses. You can't be like that. You have to be able to get along, take a little bit of
criticism. Right. I mean, I think Steve Bannon hit the nail on the head when he said you can't take any criticism and as soon as someone
upsets him he's like locking out your accounts over hb1 visas it's like dude well can't we just
have like a debate about hb1 visas i thought this is the free speech platform yes and suddenly he
got very weird about it and so now what you're saying is that was faked like that the video game
one was was faked yeah and it kind of
got you know it kind of got pushed to the side because video gaming is sort of a culture it's
a very micro like it's a huge culture but if you're not in video games it's really easy for
that to not come across your feet oh yeah gamergate is such a cool rabbit hole to go down
changed the internet forever right and so it just little things started to add up around elon that
i started to have more
and more questions about, is he really doing what we're being told he's doing while he's tweeting
all day long? He tweets all day long. Right. And so it starts to get very concerning as far as
where are we going and who is taking us there? Because right now, this is more of a crypto
conversation is there's a divide between centralized and decentralized.
And crypto is the obvious place for this, where the banks are trying to take the concept
of crypto and turn it into this centralized digital currency model where, oh, it'll be
just as good as crypto, but we'll control it from the inside.
So there'll be none of this crazy volatility, none of these crazy problems, though I think
that they created a lot of those problems to make crypto look bad.
But crypto has lots of problems. Decentralized media has lots of problems. Like in our industry,
the decentralized media, people get things wrong. Like we spread misinformation on accident. People
can, you know, come in and spread misinformation on purpose. But would you rather live in a world
where these systems are decentralized and we all control a small piece or where it's centralized
and someone controls your brain chip and they can turn it off and lock you down in your home and control how far your car can drive
if you don't play ball. And so more and more, it's looking like in crypto and finance, in AI
and technology, in communications and media, in all these different aspects that control the world,
we are seeing the decentralized technologies change the game
forever. Crypto changing money, media changing the news and information and over and over and
over. And more and more, we're seeing figureheads being propped up that sort of seem to be on the
team of decentralized, seem to be pro free speech, seem to be pro crypto. And then we kind of like
somehow walk into this world where actually
it's going to be this u.s government thing or actually it's going to be this like we'll just
run grok and it'll be the best one ever oh gosh i wish you didn't tell me this because i've just
been reading so much about and speaking about tavistock institute if you're familiar with that
like they can quite literally just make someone a celebrity like they've been doing this uh since
people who think that the hippies generation was totally natural and organic. It wasn't. It was literally they decided what music
you would hear, how that music would impact you. They wanted people LSD, free sex, rock and roll.
And a part of that was creating like the Beatles, like the Beatles is a perfect example. The Beatles
was totally a psychological operation. Don't even get me started on that but then just
in the research that i've done of looking at zelensky for example he's clearly not the leader
of ukraine he's an actor a literal actor who was trained who had a whole show about being the
president of ukraine before it's like programming everywhere you look they're all actors like
emmanuel macron was an actor he had no power anybody who has watched my bergit macron series
walks away and understands that he has never been in control. He was literally, this is why the Elon Musk thing
is bothering me because they just pretended that he had this like illustrious banking career when
in reality, David Rothschild just like held his hand up through everything. And he didn't even
know what EBITDA stood for. He didn't even know what EBITDA stood for. He was working for the
biggest Rothschild bank. Okay. So they do this. It's a fact. Like the people who worked with
Emmanuel Macron spoke out
and said this like he never they faked his his i'm saying sat stores but there was a just to add
this you haven't watched it um it's more like an mba program that everyone goes through at fran
and in france and it's basically like the cream of the crop go here and one year uh emmanuel macron
who was an absolute idiot and somehow got into this program after not being able to get to it for a while.
Somebody held his magic hand and put him in it.
They got their test results back and he was the top of the class and the class revolted because he was an idiot.
And they were like, these are fake results, fake results.
So they canceled the exam results for the year for the first time ever.
And then when Emmanuel Macron became president, he canceled the entire program.
It's a massive blemish on his career.
Imagine like Harvard sits for these exams and the entire class revolts because they're like Obama came in number one.
They're like, there's no way.
He didn't know anything in class this entire time.
You don't even know how he's in this school.
That happened.
Emmanuel Macron didn't know anything about banking.
He didn't know anything about anything when he was at school, a part of this business program.
And he was at school, a part of this business program.
And he was fake.
He literally was installed as president of France with the Rothschilds behind him.
So when you say something like that about Elon Musk,
about the banking thing
and potentially people just making his character,
it does tend to chill down my spine
because I just feel like there aren't enough hours
in the day.
Yeah.
I mean, the other obvious actor is Donald Trump, unfortunately. Like,
I don't think, I still am of the mindset that Donald Trump is like his own bullheaded man that,
you know, is doing his own thing. He was raised in the business world. He's right. But I think
that his own thing is closely aligned with enough of these people throughout his life
that a lot of his incentive structures in his own soul are directly aligned with all these other people. And it's not it's
not so clear to me that he is America first in the way that Americans are America first.
So the reason why I always had such belief in Trump initially was because they hated him so
much. Exactly. They made it very hard for him. Like, you know, with Emmanuel Macron,
the media loved him. They covered for him. They had they hit every blemish. Trump was the exact opposite
in 2016. So I was very inclined to believe this was actually an America first movement.
And they fought him tooth and nail every day of the first four years. Now, all of a sudden,
things things are different, you know, and everyone can feel that it's different and people
don't want to admit that it's different. Fine. If you really want to not acknowledge reality and what's happening. But it is true that I feel like
everything changed the day that Miriam Adelson wrote that $100 million check to him. Yeah.
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perspective. I think it's highly encouraging because the world was always this way. The world was always controlled. We were always being fed celebrities. We were always running blackmail schemes. There was always all this horrible sexual criminality going on towards children. All these things have always existed. And in many cases, they were way darker, like 500 years ago. And it's not like it's really depressing to read about the actual
criminal underbelly of the world, you know, from 50 years and beyond. But now we just know about it.
And that is deeply enlightening. And that is deeply encouraging because we're at this
transformative time when AI is coming. Robots are coming like the decentralization of media
and all of our power systems through our phones to be able to be in this world and making a difference, it's here and it's coming. And it's, and it's actually
really encouraging to me that we all get to take part in it and we all get to have a say.
And that's why I keep coming back to this decentralized versus centralized is decentralization
is like the American ideal. We all have a voice, we all have a vote, and we all can influence
our country and our world together. And they are, and they, all of
their systems, all these control systems, these political systems, these blackmail systems,
they're from an age when it was all centralized and they controlled the media and they controlled
the newspapers and they controlled the radio. And they, we have been watching them stumble over
trying to adapt these old strategies and these old operations and programs to this new era.
And many of them have been bungled and been exposed,
like Jeffrey Epstein, for example. One of Whitney Webb's primary criticisms of my representation of
her work that was a good criticism was that I have focused a lot on Jeffrey Epstein in the
earlier days, in the old school blackmail and the sort of in-person blackmail he was running.
But over the last decade, especially of his life, he was trying to transition into technology
and to getting access to the technocrats and getting into digital blackmail.
And he was funding projects like these Palantir-style projects, Carbine 911 is a good example, where
suddenly you don't even need blackmail operations because you've got everyone addicted to porn
and you've got them all on this weird next thing that AI is putting in front of their
faces.
And so suddenly all you need to do is have access to their computers and their phones. And most people are immoral anyways,
and don't follow God because they've demonized God pretty dang good. And so we were, they're
trying their best to race, to adapt those old systems. And I think in a lot of cases, they're
not capable of doing it, but they are powerful systems. And we do need to be careful. We do need
to talk about it because I think that a lot, like we live in this bubble of thinkers. We live common sense to me that if you want to,
basically, they're becoming the tastemakers.
It's becoming more and more deranged
what they're offering, right?
So you get everybody on Pornhub
and you first have like relations
between men and women when pornography first takes off.
And then you make it more and more
and more perverted and deranged.
And you know that that addiction in their mind,
they're looking as they're watching porn
for more and more and more aggressive and deranged porn. And then you've got them right. You've got their IP address.
And this person you now know is looking at this kind of porn. And so when you take a look at
who is owning porn and you and you look at the connections there, you go, OK, this is obviously
in its in and of itself a blackmail operation. And that's why I say to men, don't watch porn.
You shouldn't watch porn in my world
because I'm Catholic and you're not allowed to.
But if you need a more,
if you're a person who's like,
I need a less theological reason,
well, I'm telling you,
it's because you're gonna get blackmailed.
Like I don't, the porn is not here.
And I think about how weird it was that in school,
they were telling us it's healthy to watch porn.
That is so bizarre.
Think about how weird it is to reflect on that. Like it's like,
oh no, it's healthy for men to watch porn once in a while and telling you like it's okay. Why
would the school do that? Why would the school be telling you to watch pornography? For the exact
same reason why they would be telling boys that they can become girls and girls that they can
become boys, right? And this is a message directly to men. So if you can't get behind the theological
reasoning for it and you can't get behind the blackmail reasoning for it because you don't think you're ever going to be important enough, get behind the theological reasoning for it, and you can't get behind the blackmail reasoning for it, because you don't think you're ever going to be important
enough, get behind the success reason for it. Because pornography deeply kills your drive for
success. And it deeply disconnects you from the world. And it deeply disconnects you from your
masculinity and your testosterone systems. And when you're watching porn, you are just sedated.
You are naturally sedated. And I understand. and I understand, like I grew up in the generation that was, porn was put in front of our faces and our parents had no
understanding of what it was and what was happening. And most people in my generation saw their first
pornography, like at age eight or 11, like at their friend's house. And so everyone in the
millennial generation sort of had to find their own way through that narrative and almost no one
escaped, but it is on us to escape
from it and to realize that if you let yourself stay in that hole, that will forever tarnish your
relationships with women. And you will never be able to know the true depth of happiness that you
can have when you start a family and love your wife and raise children and be a good role model.
And it's so pervasive today. And so many people are deep in that pit or even just a
little bit in that pit because it's no big deal that if you don't watch it, you are in the top
0.01% of men inherently. And that's in terms of how your brain works, in terms of how your body
works, in terms of your testosterone, all these things. And it's just the most obvious and it's
very difficult. It's very difficult for men, I think.
And especially some of the most capable men have some of, and same with women.
It's like the most capable women, the most beautiful women, the most, the women that
understand how to manipulate the systems the best, they're the ones that are like, why
wouldn't I engage in these behaviors?
Why wouldn't I make free money?
Like, I don't even need to show this stuff.
I can just do this stuff and I'll make a million dollars.
But it is subversive in every way, not just politically and blackmail, but also just
culturally and dividing families and dividing what makes the soul of America.
And they've intentionally introduced it everywhere. And there is a, I mean, I'm sorry,
but a direct corollary from when they took the Bible out of the classroom. That was all very
intentional. Understand you should go back and learn history who pushed for that to happen. You have the 60s generation. The reason the CIA was doing this was
because they wanted to crush Christian culture. I mean, explicitly, there's a guy. What is his name?
I think it's Al Goldstein. You got to pull up this Wikipedia, Skylar. If you could pull up
Al Goldstein on Wikipedia explicitly said, like, we created
pornography because we hate Christ. This is the literal quote. It's so crazy to read this. Here
it is. It's, quote, the only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ
sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism. Pornography thus becomes a way
of defiling a Christian culture.
And as it penetrates the very heart of the American mainstream and is no doubt consumed by those very same wasps, its subversive character becomes more charged, end quote.
I mean, that is just unbelievable. Like, whoa, it's like, take it to the bank. We created
pornography because we hate Christ. And it's not like a conspiracy theory. And so this guy says this and you go to yourself, OK, everything that is happening is anti-Christ. Right. So we know that as Catholics, you're not supposed to keep your families together. You're supposed to save your virginity. We don't believe in birth control we uh everything that's happening now is counter to
christ culture it's literally anti-christ okay and so you examine that and you go okay now they're
telling kids like yeah no you you can have you should have multiple partners like this is all
about like sex freedom hookup culture hookup culture uh no pornography it's totally natural
and healthy for you to-
Watch it together.
Watch it together.
It'll be good for your relationship.
Weird what we learn.
It's good for your relationship,
but it's the exact opposite for your relationship.
And they've introduced pornography, just to be clear.
We always talk about hardcore pornography and Pornhub,
but it's everywhere.
And I never realized until my husband-
My husband said, I was like,
why don't you want to be on social media?
He's like, because it's all soft core porn.
Yeah.
He's like, you turn on, you open the news, you're reading the Daily Mail, and suddenly
you have some woman's butt cheeks in your face.
You are on Twitter and it's offering you people porn.
Women just dress this way.
And he's like, men are hardwired.
They're selling a bag.
They're like, OK, I can't just sell a Stannis cup.
I have to also be halfway naked and then do this. Why? Why can't you just say, hey, if you want to support
the show, go to Canada. They can't do it because they're actually making pornography. It's something
that it's almost impossible for men who are hardwired towards that stuff to resist. And
there's a true evil in that because I recognize that in Japan, it's nowhere.
I did not realize how strange it is that every commercial in America is sexual until I went to Japan where their whole thing is like make everything cute.
Like, you know, so if you're going to sell it, it has to be like Muppet talking.
And I looked around and I went, there's no billboards, there's no boobs, there's no ass.
What's going on?
There is a lot of repressed weird sexuality in Japan.
There definitely is.
And that's a whole other category.
But it is like because this is a global force and who knows who's behind it. But there is a global force kind of pushing for these things because when you separate families, when you divide cultures and nations and like the things that keep us tight together and divide all that, we are so much more easily controlled more easily depressed more easily medicated more more
and more lonely and in need of the government to give us things to satiate us um and to just you
know pass the time and to make life bearable while we go to work every day and um i just you're you're
on the point of like sort of how sex has always sold and it's getting more and more overt but
there's this other aspect that is that i've been noticing and it's OnlyFans and that OnlyFans at first it was so easy for people to paint it as like this great thing where they're going to empower the creators and they're going to make make the porn industry safer and they would have them do normal TV shows. And this is happening right now. So it's like a travel show or like a cooking show, but it's like a porn star doing a
cooking show so that then you can have this porn star on TV, on mainstream daytime television,
and you can have your five-year-old, your eight-year-old, your 12-year-old watching a porn
star cook food. And it's totally normal. And that is like subversion 101 is start to just blur the
lines more and more and get more
and more people, make it normalized, make it part of culture and society in the exact same way that
LGBTQIA plus is just like, just trying to bleed into our schools and into our conversation, like
as though it's just normal. Um, and I pray and like, I pray that we are waking up in time because
for me, it was this learning. It was programs like yours
and learning about how subversive all this is
and how hard the devil seems to be working
to weed its way into everything.
That's what got me to think about the Bible
in the first place.
And I'm still on my own journey
trying to figure that out
and trying to figure out what I believe.
But I was raised with no religion
and it was learning about how evil
some of these people are
and how they are directly trying to subvert
Christian religion. That's what got me to be like, huh, that's weird. I wonder what's on the other side of that debate. This can't just keep being a coincidence like there, which means that since they're doing this under a web of lies that they know that this is the truth.
And they they want to detach you from that reality.
They want to detach people from understanding that, you know, you have a creator, you have one creator and you and you have a soul and the stuff that you are doing actually matters.
Instead, they want people believing in tech and worshiping tech.
Tech is going to get you to the next level.
I'm like, I don't know what this is. You think you're recreating like the tree of life and
you think that people are going to come and worship the tech lords and you're going to be
able to basically dominate earth and you're going to be, you guys are going to become God,
but it doesn't work for me. And I'm not interested in a brain chip in my brain.
I don't want to drive your electric car. I want my family to stay together. I want to be able to make decisions. I want to be able to criticize
someone. I want the right to hate somebody because of their race. Okay. I want to be able to be like,
yeah, you know what? I do hate white people. You know why? Because I can say that because
I'm in America and that's totally fine for me to say. And as a white person, I should have the
spine to be like, cool. I'm not like, I don't care. Whatever, dude. Yeah. Like that doesn't
hurt me. No. And trying to criminalize that was what was really tripping for me was them at the exact same time that they're trying to train us to believe that speech is violence. They're also trying to train us to believe that actual violence is not violence. So it's like a bunch of Palestinian kids being blown up that. How dare you comment and say that that's wrong. That's that is understandable violence. And then it's like Kanye tweets something and it's like, oh, my gosh, no, this must every person must make a statement
and condemn him for his speech violence, that that could really be really bad.
And I'm I'm more awake than that, you know, and I know how important it is to protect speech,
because otherwise you will get a government that is doing demented and demonic things and you will
not be able to question that government. And I feel that we are inching closer to that and it pains me to say that i don't feel
that guardrails have been set up under trump who i have supported for eight years it pains me to say
but i now feel that he has just allowed his administration to run things and is not doing
what i put him in office to do or not or at least not prioritizing what I put him in office to do or not, or at least not prioritizing what
I put him in office to do. They had a very clear mandate coming in and it was America first in
every sense of the word. And the deportation stuff has been a huge mess, right? Like so much of the
government, you know, getting the government uncorrupted kind of been a mess. Some of it's
been great. It's been easy to paint it on Twitter and get lots of views for, you know, promoting his last thing that he cut or the last thing that he,
you know, uncovered and exposed, which a lot of that doge stuff was actually publicly available
information in the first place. Like a lot of that was already out there. Um, and at the same
time, the real, like Israel first bent to it all is scary. And the, and the JD Vance, Peter Teal
connection where JD Vance is getting propped
up as like 2028 presidential run kind of material is scary because J.D. Vance is very skilled and
I've really enjoyed everything he said on camera. Like he is an excellent public speaker and his
debate was amazing and I didn't know anything about him beforehand. And he's very good at what
he does. But when you actually research how he came up and how he got put into that position, who funded him all the way up, it just looks like they're setting us up for 2028 to
be the next step down this road and trying to keep themselves positioned as the good guys. It's like
they need us to be on their team right behind them on team victory all the way. Well, the reality is
that American sentiments are shifting and it's not going to be enough. I don't think cropping up people is enough anymore. I think people are very much awake to what's happening and that's what
terrifies them. That's why they're running this operation, the COINTELPRO 2 and CHAOS 2, trying
to make people not believe in us and make us think that we're the ones that are sold out.
And by the way, I do want to say this too, like their strategies are laughable. They're so boomer cringe, like the woke right trying to keep
pretending and like confusing what woke, like everyone knows it's you. Like they spend hours
on Twitter. This is what the real woke right is. This is what the real woke, anybody who doesn't
like Israel is the woke right. So guys, we all know who it is. Okay, you can spend, create an entire liturgy of woke right.
We're awake.
We know it's you.
We know it's you.
Never ending wars.
Like, especially when Meghan McCain tried to weigh in.
I'm like, no, no, guys, this is way too obvious.
You don't want her on your team.
Yeah, their strategies now are like, we're going to say, we're going to criminalize just asking questions.
I'm like, this is such a bad idea.
I'm like watching their PR from afar. And I'm just like, guys, you're not winning anybody. You're just
not winning anybody with this. And they can't stop themselves. The Babylon bees brains are broken
over there. And it is there. They've aged out. I think they just like aged out of PR and
understanding like what Gen Z is and understanding like the millennial sentiment. And they're just
kind of engaging in really weird PR tactics of
like, we're going to issue a report on Christ is King. I'm going, guys, what are you doing?
No one is falling for this right now. I mean, you said they've aged out. I would argue that
they have truth doubt in the sense that the decentralized media has opened all of us up.
So they can't control what everyone's seeing and hearing anymore. And the truth is so powerful. And you know, you might say God is so powerful because the thing,
so there's this quote I always come back to, and I heard it from Ryan Dawson first,
but it might've been older than that. And it was that a lie needs to be spoken a thousand times to
be believed the truth only once, right? And it's because you need to just hammer that into people,
but the truth just spreads itself because everyone has a brain. Everyone has a soul. Everyone instinctively does hear God deep down inside of them that like in their own heart, telling them what's true. And when you hear truth, you know it. Right. And I think that they're doing everything they can to divorce people from truth, divorce people from God, divorce people from each other, and then fill their alone time with garbage. Because it's when you're alone that it's just you and God. It's just you and your soul,
right? And if you are the kind of person that can't be alone, that can't have a night alone
at home without drinking or smoking or watching porn or doing all these other things. And it's
like, I'm not judging you. I have no, you know, like I have, I'm not a perfect person throughout
my life either. But if you aren't the kind of person that can just be with yourself,
that can just read a book and be at peace,
can be with your own thoughts and be at peace,
that is their goal,
is to stop us from being able to do that,
to stop us from believing in who we are
and being able to connect as real human to human,
which is what Maha is all about.
Maha is all about getting back to being healthy humans
that have healthy habits,
that have healthy relationships,
that build a strong country and community, right? Yeah, I totally agree. And you are right. I think that
is what it is, is their lives just seem louder and more erratic now than they've ever been.
And they just fear more people telling the truth. And they also seem angry. But you can sense
they're losing control because we're all so happy and we're sharing the stuff and we're excited that
we're learning outside of the public education system and we're recommending books and we're all so happy and we're sharing the stuff and we're excited that we're learning outside of the public education system and we're recommending books and we're admitting when we
get something wrong. It's crazy. And they're just hitting people with utter arrogance and definitions
and this is what this is and you will be this and you will be called names. And I think they almost,
they know. Yeah. They know that. Sucks to be on a losing team. It does. Like, it's like they can
see it. They know it's over. They know that they're losing control
and they're just kind of becoming undone. And you're right. That is the power of Christ. And
that is what I have always maintained through last year to now is just when I say Christ is
king, you can't defeat truth, the truth, the light, the way. There's nothing you can do to
stop this. And watching it, watching them come apart, I can't deny the fact that it's been entertaining.
It's been so entertaining being like, oh, wow, the truth really upsets you that much that you're just going to keep screaming.
And I guess let's maybe write 30 more articles about Ian Carroll and Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.
Let's see if we can get 50 more out today on your reporter group chat coming every which way.
And it does nothing to diminish our platforms because people do know truth when they hear it.
It only elevates them.
It only helps magnify the truth.
Yeah, I think that's actually an amazing place to end.
Ian, what's next for you?
Because you are now under fire.
I love watching what you're going through because I remember when I first got caught a little bit of fire and then like every which direction
people were just making stuff up. I've heard you're everything from like in the Mossad to
Adolf Hitler. Yep. Which is everything in between one is true. I'm funded by Madagascar. I didn't
want to the news leaked that Madagascar had so much tariffs. And so now it's kind of out there, but, but I'm actually quite poor. And my plan is to start taking my job a lot more seriously
and, and being more effective because through all the slings and arrows through the crazy rise I've
had and through I've, I've purposely not actually gotten very much money because I didn't want to
work with big companies. I didn't want to take brand deals. And I still, I still don't, I want
to do my own thing, my own way. And, and through all this madness, I've seen how messy the like Twitter
sphere can get, how, how messy the online kind of back and forth can get. And so I've been really
inspired by people like you, um, that are more on their own train of thought and more doing their
own digs and their own research and just staying in that lane and not, not getting distracted by
all the noise. And so I'm trying to focus more on YouTube and more on the products and the corporation
stuff along the side too. There's a whole other thing coming out around that, that I'll be talking
about in the next month or so. Um, and just do my own thing and, and sort of like, you're right,
that we're all so happy. And it's because we have things that we're working on that matter,
that means something to us that fill our life with meaning. And I think that's the best indicator of are you on the right path is are you doing things that fill your life with meaning that even while the world is burning all around you, you still know that you and your family are on the right path. And I'm on it and I feel it and I love it and it's amazing. And I'm just getting better and better at honing in on what is that path and keeping all the other noise out. Do you have a way that people can subscribe and support?
Yeah, yeah. They can follow me on X at Ian Carroll Show. And I have a new website that
is a part of this new direction I'm going, which is CancelIanCarroll.com, which is where I've
moved all the merch to so I don't have to deal with my own merch anymore. I got a company helping
me with that. And that is the best place to follow along for more updates because there are more
updates coming. My YouTube channel as well. I'll be doing a lot more on that. And that is Cancel Ian Carroll on YouTube.
Okay. And if you guys are on YouTube, we'll link all of this in the description so that you can
follow him. And we'll also pin it on the top of comments. You can follow him. We just have to
recognize our own power, you guys. And I think it's amazing. I always want to leave you guys
an optimistic note because as, like I said, when we're seeing this stuff falling apart and we're
seeing independent voices come to the top and we're seeing the old guard
kind of try to say that these voices are funded it should excite you you should you should know
that it means that they're scared and that they're on the run and that the old systems are failing
for a reason and ultimately like the sweatshirt i'm wearing today christ is king guys we we are
going to win this thing by recognizing that ultimately what they've been fighting is the truth of the Bible.
I really do see it.
It is a spiritual war that is upon us and left and right.
We need to stay together and not allow them to pull us apart again.
It's the number one thing that they fear is us having recognizing who the true enemy is.
And it isn't your average American.
Absolutely.
All right, guys.
Well, you can head to Candace Owens dot com to continue to support our work. You've already done a tremendous job supporting me
in my independent career. And I appreciate you because I was terrified stepping out on my own.
It's it is a terrifying thing, but I knew that it was the right thing to do. And it's I hope
the exact same thing for Ian. He's been amazing. If you've been following his journey, he's under
attack. I love it. he's going to be fine
I'm not even worried
about him
I laugh at the attacks
on him
and we will see you guys
on Monday