Candace - Candace x Milo: The Rise of the Gaytriarchy | Candace Ep 234

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

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YouTube? Anyways, here to join me, Milo Yanopolis. Let me start from the beginning here. I want to say I've never struggled with homosexuality. I was brilliant at it from day one. But it did occur to me five years ago that hell was real and I don't want to go. So you say you're a reformed or a recovered homosexual? I say ex-gay because it sounds hilarious, but the truth is... Ex-gay does sound good. It's good, isn't it? But the truth is, as far as I've got so far as celibacy and the good thing about the male libido is the less you have, less you want. So I never thought that I

would be happy, kind of not really having sexual activity per se, but but the, but the It's fine. And now I'm into the messy, difficult and terrifying business of casting my eye of the female population. It's probably more terrifying for them than it is for me. And figuring out if there's anybody there who, you know, could be quiet for long enough to be my wife. I'm just kidding, of course. But, you know, it's, it has nagged at me and irritated me since I came back to my faith, a Catholic faith. that I wasn't able to participate in that last Holy Sacrament, you know.

I was confirmed very late in life, actually, and it's a blessing to be able to not just remember it, but to have had a very fancy affair. I had the full, I had the full Latin Institute of Christ the King. You know, they do a conditional baptism. You get exercised three times on the way into the church. It's getting your knees, and you go in, you go in, you go in. So converts normally have this, but if you have a conditional baptism,

make you do this as an adult. You have to read The Our Father and a few other things in Latin. And then confirmation, as you know, over very quickly. But it was beautiful and it was lovely to be able to have that as an adult. And it was a very important part in my return to as close to faithful Catholic life as I can get. I think it's probably safe to stay. But it was bugging me that I wasn't able to participate in something. that everybody should.

And there's something very magical and very special about not just marriage, but about children, because it is the time before you die, before you get to heaven, where you get to do something with our Lord. You get to, it's called co-procreation. Two people make the baby biologically, but our Lord puts a soul in there. And so co-procration with God is, you know, you haven't just made love with your husband or your wife. You haven't just seen them. You haven't just created a baby

But you have you have participated in creation with God Like, oh, you know Like that's huge And it's something that men can do Even if they can't bear children You know, they still get to do that And I don't know The truth is, it's not a very good answer

But it sort of crept up on me The truth is one day I woke up And I remember the short chain of thought I had And it's what I said a moment ago hell is real and I don't want to go. Just like that. Yeah. It's very interesting because, like I said, I grew up and you learn in school, if you go to the public school system, that some people are gay, some people are straight and we need to normalize homosexuality.

That's why we have terms like homophobic, which I don't know what that means. I guess it means you're scared of gay people running down the street. You should be afraid of getting trafficked to a homosexual couple. Homophobia is pretty rational if you're a vulnerable young, young foster kids. or something. I think about this now and having read, I asked you to read this book ahead of this discussion, but having read Hollywood Babylon and getting into Sigmund Freud and the sort of mystical tradition, it's really interesting because we, of course, have no memory of what happened

on this earth before we were here. And I think I sort of assumed, obviously, very wrongly, that there was always this kind of current of homosexuality in American culture. But it actually happened quite quickly. And beyond quite quickly, it also happened quite intentionally when you take a look. add to the establishment of Hollywood and them thinking through how to infect the Christian culture in America. And that had happened a few different times in different ways elsewhere in history of Western civilization. But really prior to, I mean, prior to the Middle Ages that homosexuality is sort of conceived up completely differently in the same way that races.

You know, people living in 1,100, we have no idea what we were talking about. We were talking about somebody being white or not white in the American. way. But the most recent explosion of this, funnily enough, happened in a way it was kind of a test run for what the media later did with Trump. The first, I think, a full assault, full media assault, like what they did to Trump, like what they did on January 6th, was about conversion therapy in the 80s. And at that time, you know, after maybe half a century of this stuff, you know, digging in after the 1910s, 20s and 30s in Hollywood, you know, half a century has passed and people still think homosexuals are dirty and sleazy

and it's a moral choice and we can't get over this hurdle so what the campaigners came up with was, well, if it's, hang on a second, if it's like being black or if it's like being a woman, then if somebody doesn't like it, they're a bigot. That works. So the

born this way mythology was created to meet ideological objectives out of whole cloth, and it has never been even remotely demonstrated by science. The closest that anybody will truthfully get is say there appear to be some people who have some sort of predispositions maybe, but it is vastly more to do with nurture than it is to do with nature. And in any case, even if you are one of those people that just pops out, you know, in sequence seeing Mariah Carey. It is possible to overcome what are disordered and urges. They call it unwanted same sex attraction as it.

I think it's the PC term that YouTube is right with. It is possible to, even though you may be suffering with what is a terrible curse, not do it. You know what's interesting because I've had to reconsider that my childhood programming on this, but I love that you call it the born this way mythology. That's a great way of saying it because that's what it was. You're born this way. And people that... It's political propaganda.

It is political propaganda. And I think that the best example of that currently, because we're living through that, is this insistence that people are born trans. And you can see how they infect that propaganda, how it starts. And thinking about Hollywood, thinking about Hollywood, how it starts with the television screens and I Am Jazz was sort of the first time that they did this. TLC show, I don't know if you're familiar with this. And they said, actually, jazz is trans. and it became this cultural phenomenon, got so much coverage.

And nobody tells you the end point and the struggles that Jazz is facing today and they were able to get all of these kids. I grew up, nobody was trans, and now of a sudden you have all of these parents who are convinced that their children are born something other. You said it exactly right. People are always amazed at the horrors

that parents can do to their own children. But they shouldn't be because people do all kinds of terrible things that are kids, you know, whether it's everyday neglect or it's something more serious and more dramatic. The trans thing fixed a really big problem for the parents of gay kids or kids who show signs of those sorts of behaviors early on,

which lots do because the damage happens early. Fixed a big problem, which is, what did I do wrong? Because if you don't have a gay child that you messed up, but instead have a trans child who has a problem, who has a disease, who has a syndrome, who has something on them, then you're off the hook. you're not bad parents

in fact you're victims because your kid has got this thing that nobody would ever want for their own child and so you become brave and you become a hero

and your child becomes the crucible in which your social anxieties about having messed up as a parent and major kid gay which is what you did are resolved and sanctified because in fact

all of these kids who are seized and mutilated if they were left alone would be what we would call, you know, like gay men. And if without the interference, without the injection into the process of these crazed trans campaigners, they would have a hope of a way out. But once you've started chopping things off, you create so many psychological and body image problems that you're no longer just dealing with the fact that you had an overbearing mother, an absent father and you didn't form

sustainable platonic relationships with men as a young boy and something went wrong in your head or that you got raped and that and it happened because it could happen for any mixture or all of those reasons I had a bit of all of them once you start chopping part of that person off you cut them off from salvation you cut them off from redemption you cut them off from hope

because if you can stop doing that stuff at least you're still you and you have potential and possibility and you could do and be anything as long as you're still like, you know, in possession of your health, your faculties, you're whatever. But once you start mutilating somebody

because parents find it easier to believe their kids have a disease, which is not their fault, then they messed up as parents and that they're gay, even if you were able to somehow switch the trajectory of your desire from one sex to another, which does happen. It's not, you know, not everybody who goes in conversion therapy wins.

It's, you know, best case scenario, you've got like a one in five chance. It's not good odds. It's better than cancer, but it's not great. If you start cutting things off, and usually there's nowhere to come home to. And the problem that gay kids have is that they start early on being different people in front of different audiences. So they know that, for instance, they can't be their sassy selves in front of their grandparents,

let's say, because they're whatever. And this eventually unchecked becomes a kind of fractured personality, which is the bedrock reason why gay people are, you know, always so dishonest and always so, always up to stuff, you know, because they have these competing identities that are not reconciled, and they are playing characters in front of different people who become almost like fully fledged people in their own right. And it is a kind of, I mean, it's, you know, layperson schizophrenia.

it's not it's not schizophrenia but it's it becomes disorientating and it becomes debilitating and and you you what you're able to do if you have different people you can lean into and lean out of like an actor but but in real life you're able to do things to those characters because they're not you and you might not know really whether you is but um the person the character that is um the sexual uh person you can begin to degrade them you can begin to humiliate them you can get off on them suffering, even if it's you, because it's roleplay and because everything is in your life, because you're now simply replacing one facade with another constantly everywhere you go. And so because your personality is kind of broken into bits,

you can at any point see any of it as not being really you, and you can do awful things to it. It's so funny that you say that because somebody that I know who used to live a home with sexual lifestyle and doesn't anymore. I was opening up to him about this gay guy that we had hired a while ago who very quickly was lying to us and stealing from us. And he was fantastic at his job. We were so good to him. And the question that he asked me, he said, you know, was there something about it? He said a lot of gay men are sociopaths because they have to lie so much about who they are and what they're doing. And it shapes their brain early on. And then later on in life, it becomes very easy when you're lying. You don't even feel like you're lying because you've nurtured this

ability to be dishonest for so long? I wouldn't say that it, because they have to lie about who they are, because there's a little, there's something hidden in there, there's a little something embedded in there that suggests that maybe it's homophobia that makes them damaged or miserable, and that's not what's going on. What they're doing, what people with these disordered desires are doing, knowing that it is wrong and that is not normal, you know that you're supposed to be into girls. I had relationships with girls. I just wasn't really feeling it, you know?

But you feel drawn to this other thing. And you know that it's wrong. And it's as much wanting to distance yourself from the moral responsibility and culpability of doing it as it is presenting different faces as well. That become the reason why gays have this sort of fractured personality. But it's not sociopathy. They feel things intensely.

And hysteria is not the shallow hysteria of a sociopathic. thick mom who's going to drown her kid, it's different. They're in pain. They're hurting. And when they cry, it's real. But they're bouncing between different personalities and different identities. And your man there, it was like, from his perspective, it's like somebody else was doing that. Yeah.

Like, like, he is responsible and he did do it. And he must have the consequences because it will help him to reintegrate. And they now call conversion therapy, reintegrative therapy, for the reason, for reasons that you will immediately understand having listened to your talk. They need that impetus, so they need to get caught, you know. But they are in pain acting out, and very often you find with gays,

they will do this stuff almost to get caught because they want somebody to notice that everything's not aright. And when the alphabetized CD collection, perfect employee, who's kind of, you know, like, yes, I'll take care of that for you. needs you to know that they're in pain, they'll do something like steel

or they'll do something like, you know, say or do something despicable, whatever. They're acting out because they want to be noticed it's a cry for help. So it's interesting now when I consider it, now that I was baptized Catholic and re-examining why it is that we learn that it is this immutable characteristic.

It's like being black. It's like being woman with this person is just gay and how it doesn't allow people to get better. It would be absurd, giving it a totally different example. If someone is an alcoholic, if we said, oh, you were, you were, that's who you always were. Deep down, you were always an alcoholic. So just keep drinking it's totally fine. And yes, if you go to rehab, you don't have a 100% chance of getting sober.

If you are taking meth, you don't have 100% chance of getting sober. But knowing and saying to a society that this is an unhealthy, something that you are doing. It forecloses, exactly. You have immediately insured exactly the key thing about this. Yeah. You got it straight. They don't want people. You got it right away.

If you tell somebody, that that's what they are, more even than who they are. You're robbing them of the ability to make changes. Yeah, like you're an alcoholic because it's totally a genetic trait and your dad was an alcoholic and now you're an alcoholic and it's not your fault. There's nothing to do about it. I mean, in a way, you should probably just drink. Right.

And we'll deal with the consequences later. Robbing that person may be of the ability to get sober and to have a family, you know, to stop beating their wife or to get their kids back or something. That's the main thing. That's why I think it's such an important discussion to reopen. Because you've got kids, you immediately understood. You immediately understood what the problem was. Nobody gets it.

When I say, like, what's the problem with telling somebody that it's what they're? I don't know. That you immediately got it because you have children now. But yeah, that's what it is. All of the pathways to, to not, I mean, you say pathway to salvation. I used that kind of, I used that word metaphorically earlier. But I mean, it literally too. It's barring your way to heaven.

Right. And that's what's so wicked about it. Right. And so you see people who have normalized this, and now you have homosexual families, which, in my opinion, that is oxymoronic in general. Well, it's a depriving children. It's a mockery. Well, what's also interesting about it, though, is like, you know, a lot of people get into these situations. And that's why it's been fascinating for me to know people who identify as homosexual and all of them.

The one thing that is agreed upon them is that they actually don't think they were born this way. One of them has mommy issues, says, okay, my mother was bipolar and she drove both me and my brother to never want to be around women again and now we're both choosing to be gay. Another person said, I had daddy issues. My daddy walked out. I wasn't around him. And then I looked, you know, I sought to have that relationship with men when I got older. You could say this even for women who can understand this in another context, a lot of the women who you will see sleep with tons of guys is because their dads weren't around. So they have daddy issues.

They're pursuing that paternity in a really unhealthy way. And so for you, which was it? Well, I always knew that it was sick and wrong for two men to raise a baby. And I never wanted to have any part of that. And I feel some responsibility for elevating what you might call out and proud homosexuality into an acceptable position in right-wing politics in America I feel a lot of

I feel a lot of things about that about my personal responsibility for that I regret it very deeply because although I thought at the time I was being sufficiently tongue-in-cheek and subtle that people would get you know the nuances to it

they did not and you just ended up with Lady Marga and although I said in every speech I ever gave if I had a button I could push make me straight, I would. That too, of course, got lost. And so, you know, there was a moment when it looked like it might be a good idea if people who had this terrible affliction at least lived as close to wholesome lives as possible. I mean, it sounds sensible, right? So we go from being the taboo-breaking, drug-taking, promiscuous subculture to people who are living about, you know,

about as good as you can, you know, despite the fact that your, you know, life revolves around a dysfunction or we're around a horror like that, at least, you know, you don't need to, like, throw the rest of your life away. You could at least be healthy. You could at least, you know, whatever. And it seemed for a while as though that was good. Homosexuals began to vote right wing. They still do.

And so we thought for a while this is going all right. You know, we've got all the white gays voting for the conservatives or the Republican Party. and, you know, they're getting into all kinds of rows with their intersectional, whatever. It's good, it's good. Because they're the ones you want anyway. You know, the white gays are the good ones out of the, you know, the LGBT circus. And they ended up voting on the basis of taxes instead of social issues, all kinds of things.

But what I didn't foresee, which I suppose I should have, is that a three-fifths of a parody is not enough. and when you when you have this mockery of a holy sacrament which is ultimately what it is two men living together and committing a sin that as we know

is one of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance it is one of the things that it's St. Catherine of Sienna I think she says she says that the demons that cause

homosexual acts once they've prompted that in men don't stick around to watch because it's too disgusting because they used to be angels and it's in their angelic rational nature they can't see something so gross so they don't stick around to see the sin that they prompted this is the level of seriousness

with which the church takes it faith takes it so it was probably foreseeable that a simulacrum of married life was going to lead to something awful and it did it is led to the widespread abuse of not just children, but babies. We see stories now of babies being sexually violated by gaming. I mean, the couple who Ruth Bader Ginsburg married got busted for child pornography, I think, sometime later. All of the...

Even the speaking of, sorry to cut you off, but speaking of the mythology, even the Matt Laramie project, insane. did not learn this, my brain basically broke because it was a part of the propaganda, sorry, Matthew Shepard, the Laramie Project. It was in Wyoming, I believe, and they kind of came out this mythology saying, Matthew Shepard was murdered because he was gay and he was tied to offense. And this became a part of my high school indoctrination about why it was so important to let people just be gay. Because look what happened to Matthew Shepard. And that was a manufacturer. It was a manufacturer. It was a total manufactured thing. Actually, he was a drug adult, drug addicted. The person who killed him was somebody that he knew

and had a homosexual relationship with and they ran with this in order to get laws passed. I don't know if there's ever been a... Has there ever been a hate crime? I don't know if there's ever been a hate crime. I mean, definitely like, you know, 300 years ago, terrible, you know, there were atrocities happening across racial lines for, for, uh,

because it was understanding that people weren't people. But, but has there ever really been a hate crime? When you say, yeah, when you say hate crime, it's so stupid. I'm like, does anybody ever commit a crime against someone that they love? Like, what do we mean when we even say, hate crime. Well, I'm saying, you know, like, for your attributes? Like, just because you're white, I'm going to kill you.

Has somebody pursued a homosexual across a field, tied him up and beaten him killed? No, come on. But they wanted us to believe that. And they taught us this in school. And there are still people I know that are watching right now that do not realize that the entire movie, the play, the Matthew Shepard thing is all nonsense. It's all one big myth. Look at the way that progressives will rewrite their own founding mythology to suit the, mores of the day. You think they're not worried about lying to you? It's now accepted

wisdom among the wokeest of the gay community that it was trans people who won gay rights at Stonewall who marched, you know, it wasn't. There were no real trannies there. It was white gays. White gays do all the, you know, do all the interesting stuff. They're all the fashion designers, you know, blah, blah, blah. But they've, because white gays have fallen out of fashion with the intersectional crowd. Now they've just sort of completely rewritten who it was that participated in this civil rights event in history.

They completely rewrite their own mythology with no compunction whatsoever. And they have no hesitation in lying to us about things that happened. And I think we're now seeing, we did a show not long ago, about one particular country that is guilty of, you know,

just the most extraordinary machine gun of siops and lies and misrepresentations, just hoping that enough of it sticks, you know, it has become now the norm. Our society's, it functions not on the truth, but primarily on lies. I mean, most of the things that are said in American public life on television and newspapers in the academy are not true. And this is very dangerous because people with conditions or with disorders where they're

trying to figure out what's real, they have no hope in a society like this. because it is now, I think we live in America in a state now of epistemological crisis where it is no longer possible for a regular person with access to, you know, regular people things, to even figure out how they would find out if something that they heard on TV was true. So if a politician tells you, well, this bill is bad because it's going to increase the deficit to a point where the country will not recover financially. And you're like, well, I don't think money's real, but, uh, can't I just

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who is telling me the truth about this about this what should be a black and white math problem there's no way to know and so the we're hopeless on things like sexuality that are so that are not concrete

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evil. It's like he was chained, he was chained to offense just for being gay. George Floyd, he did nothing wrong. They just saw a black guy and they said, let's choke him out for nine minutes and hope he dies. And nothing, nobody just goes for a moment, wait a second. I've lived in America a very long time. I've never seen or heard this thing happen. But the media, they are so good at getting psychologically convincing people that, no, this is exactly how it happens. My British is going to come out now. But I think this is, I think this is how this is, I think this is how country was founded on a trumped-up Reddit libertarian hissy-fit that was not really all it was cracked up to be, but was the basis for a destructive and a self-harm story,

you know, a founding mythology of a country that ripped out the natural system of government that is supposed to obtain over a man on earth, and pulled God out of the system too. Is this my British coming out? I know. No, I actually, I'm going to. There is something a little similar about the way this country was founded to what you're talking about, which might suggest why this country is so vulnerable and so, you know, is so susceptible to precisely this kind of psychological and political warfare because it is how the nation knows itself,

how it was born, was in a fit of injustice that was corrected by a few brave men taking a stand. That's the whole story of America. Okay. So I'm interested now because this is going to bring us right into the occult and what they actually believe in because you're right. The founding of America is an absolute myth. I'm actually reading a book. But hold on. What is the book that I'm reading? The secret founding of America. I'm reading a book and it's basically just blowing my mind and it's telling me that everything you think you know is completely false. But when I was in study with some priests, they sort of pishposhed me. I was in England studying with some priests and they were just sort of like everything that you Americans think you know is so foolish. Like America was obviously founded. by Freemasons. And now I'm really understanding, like, yes, you had these Freemason lodges that came over, you know, the Scottish right, Benibirith, and they were the reason behind the Civil War. They were the reason, but they were literally fighting for control of America. And the way that they do this is very similar to what we're seeing today. There's this kind of mainstreamed lie. Let's get to, if you ask Americans, oh, it was just the T-Tax was too high. And this is what we did.

We started throwing it out in the harbor and we said, we're ready to go to war. Now that I say it, it sounds so stupid It sounds kind of dumb, don't it? Sounds kind of really basic and dumb. Like I know it was a couple hundred years ago, but people were people. What? How much is this T-Cost? Oh, no. Paul Revere, the British are coming.

It's actually so child-ish. And it's gay. It's gay. It's gay. It's fake and gay. It's implausible. It is fake and gay. You literally, now that I'm getting into the Freemasonry,

and is it any wonder that a country founded on a fake and gay mythology would have as its primary export, just a couple of hundred years later, sodomy as a condition of foreign aid. Is it so surprising? No, it's not. No, it's not. But getting into the homosexuality and looking into Benyberrith, this was actually one of the Masonic lodges that Sigmund Freud was a part of. And that's why it made me think about this because they were definitely very involved in what was happening in the South. They were very involved in what's happening today.

Beniberith then became the ADL, the ADL that we had today. What do they do? They mainstream lies, right? They call themselves, exactly, they call themselves anti-defamation, but what are they doing? They're actually defaming people. They accuse people. Which is a satanic inversion of the language, precisely as is used in their warfare. They tell you who they are in the name.

Exactly. And so they are constantly accusing people of exactly what it is that they are. So they actually, in their core, by the way, they hate Christians, okay? They hate, I would argue that they hate the nuclear family because that comes to everything that comes down right from Christiandom, like the nuclear family, the idea of a functional family. And when you look at the things that they're pushing in our society, it's constantly an attack on the family unit. Let's think about it in terms of Catholic theology, the transcendentals. These are those qualities of reality that all people are drawn to, that give us a little taste of what our Lord may be like. And depending on whose theology you read, typically there's four of them are beauty, truth, goodness, and unity.

So you often hear religious people talking about the good, the beautiful, and the true, right? those are the things that the ADL wages war against along with all of the other bodies of a similar kind they will celebrate the ugliest statues possible they will spread as many lies as possible and they will propagate and seek to enshrine evil and wretched things Planned Parenthood, whatever. The good, the beautiful and the true

and of course they create disharmony and disunity and break people apart. It is it is those things that I always find it very helpful to think about the way that the enemy has fought over the last 100 years in this country in terms of those things, the transcendentals, because it sort of checks off all the fronts they've been fighting on. They've been getting it, even if we haven't. Well, America didn't because it's Protestant.

You know, there's a lost side of this. But the bad guys knew exactly what they were doing because they know what Catholics know, which is in just the same way that Satanists know what Catholics know they just follow you know does that do something different which is that those things tend to go together and if you make a society that is beautiful and that tells the truth it's likely also to be good and if you have you know somebody who always tells the truth and has good morals they're probably going to express those things in beautiful language these things somehow have a relationship together because they're all qualities of God

but also because they seem somehow to lead to one another. And many people come to the faith, especially the Catholic faith, through art, through architecture, through beauty, because they see something in it, they feel something kind of humming behind it, and that humming is God. And eventually it tumbles into the good and the true things they find out about God later,

but they're drawn in by something objectively, independently beautiful, eternally beautiful, about something that they have seen, or a melody they have heard, or all of those things, you know, the great richness of the Western, whatever. By unpicking the mutually reinforcing structure that used to fuel our culture and hold us all together, beauty, truth, goodness, and unity, these things that we all thought reflexively that we would, of course, we were all, you know, searching for and pointing towards by making the world ugly, putting fat girls on the magazines. Making the statues horrendous.

You know, Leslie Jones, haven't I suffered for that one? Lena Dunham. That wasn't fair. What did I do? She's come back bigger than ever. You know, in an age of a Zempeg, it takes some determination to be that fat.

But she is, it was so intentional for her to introduce it into the culture, get this deal with HBO. It's going to be the greatest show ever. Ugliness. And then they put her on every magazine cover. Oh, it's so brave, it's so beautiful. But there is an element of this. I really want to underscore this.

The lie, them trying to sell it to us and then say there's something wrong with you if you recoil when you see Lena Dunham naked. Of course there's such a thing as objective beauty. They're trying to teach us that beauty is subjective. Please, my recovery is rocky enough as it is. I can do without that. But seriously, they're trying to train our minds to believe

that everything is subjective. And there's something about that perspective that is fundamentally satanic and demonic and backwards because it's like, no, stop trying to convince me that this really ugly, modern contraption that you're calling a building is just as beautiful as when I step into a Catholic cathedral. And so the Russians understand this, right? And so when you hear the KGB guys talking about demoralization of a population, right? They're saying they understand that if you make people say things they know aren't true and support things they know are bad.

and admire or perform admiration towards things they find ugly, they're going to get depressed. When you say something that you know to be untrue, I used to talk about this, it makes you feel unsettled. But it's even worse. It's because there is this culture of that. I would look under Lena Dunham posting herself like a total slob

and people would say stunning and brave, you know, so beautiful. Like you're so inspiring. A little piece of you, it does something to your spirit when you speak an untruth like that. You know that's not true. Why are you saying that? And so when the Berlin Wall fell, everybody was like suddenly Western. It was because everybody had been lying about what they really believed. It was called a sociologist referred to it as a preference falsification, right?

All of society, basically everybody had this incredibly powerful social pressure tools say that they believed and supported this, when in reality they were like secretly trying to listen to the radio from over there. So when there's the opportunity, everybody suddenly changes all at once. And we just saw that again with woke, with trans, with, you know, with Trump coming in, just this extraordinary, I mean, what the view, I don't know when you will be watching this, but when we recorded it, it was on that happy day, the view was reportedly cancelled. Did you see that today? No, were they actually canceled? No, I don't think that's right.

Well, I like to believe it. And I'm never going to watch it again. So I'm going to believe that it was canceled today. But it's coming off the back of Colbert. These things are crumbling because the artifice of lies is crumbling because the infrastructure that requires the wickedness is no longer there. And so we don't need ugly, untalented, falsely propped up people on television anymore. And they're going to have to go rebuild and do something else.

Mark, do you mind looking up and seeing if you can pull that up whether the view is Kansas Day? I actually haven't. Wow. Oh, Rosie O'Donnell fears, the view will be canceled. Oh, no, so you've ruined, you've ruined my day. You've ruined my day. I was hoping the view would be canceled while Megan McCain was on it

so that she would always think it was her. But I'm choosing to believe that it was canceled. But they are kind of trying to tell us, forgetting about the view, we are seeing that. Everything's crumbling. A lot of it is crumbling. Hollywood's influence. Howard Stern's contract was canceled.

And these are the things. things that are in themselves lies because they are contracts that are not profitable but are propped up by other things. They are lies in themselves. We got to talk about this because this is, I literally covered this on my show last week. Barry Weiss. This is the greatest example of this. The free press, they are trying to convince us. Barry Weiss is worth a quarter of a billion dollars. They have no views on YouTube. There's a Jewish word for calling, for saying that your publication, the free press is worth $250 million. It's called chutzpa. No, but everyone is actually investing.

Every billionaire is investing in her. So let's actually think through this. What are they doing? It is so obvious that this publication, if we actually lived in a free market society, would be under. So technically speaking, things are worth what somebody is willing to pay for them under capitalism. Right. There's a big buck coming.

But, you know, so a company's valuation is determined by the price at which people are willing to buy in. to exchange capital for slices of a company. And the ratio at which they do that determines what the whole thing is worth. But it has been a very long time since people invested in companies solely for profitable returns. We now live in a very different world.

We live in a late stage, monopolistic, decadent capitalist world in which everything is one of the same five corporations. So it doesn't matter, and it never will. that that company isn't worth a tenth or a hundredth of what they say because a multinational conglomerate that doesn't care will buy it at that valuation anyway and continue to run it at a loss if they choose to

because it has cultural value. But doesn't have any cultural value. No one's listening to Barry Wye. So what are they doing? Are they pretending? What they're doing is building the propaganda machinery of tomorrow because the entire edifice of the prestige media has been so badly damaged and discredited

by the last 10 years, by themselves, they did it themselves, that there is no publication out there that still commands the respect and adulation and trust of the public. Nothing, none of them. And the ones that do have the most confidence of the public we just defunded, which were coasting on a kind of authoritative tone

to bamboozle people into thinking they were telling the truth, not really telling the truth. They did, you know, so we, we have an enormous vacuum in the media landscape that I think they're going to fill by overvaluing and then very quickly, in the same way that hedge funds will buy, remember All Saints, that clothing store, there was sort of, there was one in, in Spittlefields or Shortwich in London, and there was one somewhere else, and then suddenly they were in every town, is the hedge fund thing. It's the blackstone thing.

It's the, so they, they buy this and they're going to just federate it out. There'll be, before you know it, there will be a 5,000. free press journalists. I totally agree with you. And what are they really? They're not journalists. They are instruments of propaganda for the state.

Well, Orwell didn't foresee this, but for that sick mix of state and corrupt capitalism, the revolving door between big pharma, you know, big oil, the military industrial complex and the government, right? All of it together. And so those people require

a complex, large and powerful propaganda system in order to get away with stuff like selling people poison and telling them it's medicine. And to do that, they need people that public will more or less buy in large trust. So my read on Barry Weiss is that she is the most malleable, controllable, anodyne, empty-headed, willing to do, say and be anything

a person they could find and therefore is perfect to head up an organisation that will be not a journalistic institution, as we have known them, but rather a room of broadcasters for rent, depending on who that week needs to persuade the American public of some lies, whether it is the Israel lobby or Big Pharma. Okay, so interesting question for you. A lot of people that are being propped up, a lot of people that have power are, in fact,

especially in the media, gay, they're homosexuals, right? Very wise. She was married to a man, but now she's married to a woman and having children with a... Well, lesbians aren't real. Yeah, well, lesbians aren't real. We'll tell that to Barry Weiss and whether... Well, nothing about her is real.

No, what do you think of, a lot of people that are in power? Especially her valuation. Particularly her valuation. Maybe that's why they chose it, you see, but a woman who believes that she's sexually attracted to another woman can believe anything. I mean, if you're a woman, you convince yourself that you are sexually attracted to another one.

I mean, even lesbians don't keep it up more than six months after they get married. It's called lesbian bed death. They stop having sex completely, and they just turn into sort of, you know, miserable old knitters, you know, sort of, and then, of course, the domestic violence starts spooling up because the pretty one gets a boyfriend on the side, and the, you know, the big ugly dyke one beats the crap out of her twice a week, because it is what a dysfunction,

dysfunctional disordered arrangement, which is guaranteed by virtue of its cacophony of, of lunging, flailing, mispunching intentions to produce horrors like Dave Ruben's Frankenbabies, when, other thought of it, you know, just like, oh, let's both and then stir it and then see, like, oh, my God. Well, I think it'd be even like, okay, so another person in media, like you had Don Lemon, you've got, uh, what, why do you think, based on what we've, what we've discussed so far, would you choose gays to be the frontman, uh, for the real powerful people whose names you'll never learn, uh, and who will never be held accountable?

Because they're so used to playing characters already. They'll do whatever you want. They'll say whatever you want. They will actually and in fact inhabit the believe whatever they need to. And they will be your endlessly and infinitely malleable propagandists and figureheads. Interesting. Because they are so used already to stitching together things on the fly and saying things they don't believe and having no idea what the real truth is. And isn't that just what's happened to the press, this become homosexualized,

that it's splintered and we have this now we have we have uh chunks of things that kind of sort of work but there's no there's nothing at the heart of it it doesn't know what it's for it's forgotten its role as the fourth estate why because it is um full of gay people doing PR okay so here's a question for you what how does the government win by trying to indoctrine everybody into an increasingly more homosexual culture because it's of course the government has to win right they have to been they have broken damaged people are far more compliant because they're needier and they're weaker. So people don't understand why big companies love diversity.

Wouldn't that just make you less efficient? No, no, it's because diverse workforces don't unionize. Amazon loves diversity because if you have an Italian-American, a Mexican, a Guatemalan, and nobody knows what she is, they won't get together outside of work and talk about what the boss is doing. They won't have the same priorities. They won't have the same way of doing things. they probably won't even talk at work.

They'll find the other Mexican or they'll find the other whatever or they'll just sort of sullenly do their job and go home. And this completely divided, fractured, dysfunctional workforce that, you know, doesn't represent anything like the old factories or workplaces of the past where people were, you know, invested in each other's careers and kids and, you know, took things to the office, you know, oh, I baked today or whatever. You can't imagine that happening in Amazon warehouse.

And it doesn't. because these workforces are full of people so utterly different from one another, they have nothing in common and don't really know how to communicate with one another and don't unless they have to. Those workforces are neutralized in terms of political dissent or collective bargaining. And Amazon will never have to worry about their workers or going out on strike one day because the wages are too low. They'll never have to worry about the workforce.

having an attack of the vapors or morals saying we don't think we should sell this anymore. I know it's very profitable for you, but we're not going to pack it. They never have to worry about that because there aren't four people in that building who have enough in common to have a coffee at lunchtime and say, we really should do something about this. So in the same way, the government that is intricately involved in the sale and regulation and in some cases punishment of a variety of different poisons and drugs and all the rest of. You know, I mean, they tell, basically, they, they tell you which ones you can have,

and they give licenses to companies to profit from it. The more fractured and the more dumb and dependent the population is, the more they will need to play ball so that they get their adderals, so that they get their paycheck, they don't fall behind with their compound interest payments for the television that they don't own. So that they, you know, because with everybody living paycheck to paycheck and it's surrounded by these addictions and dependencies

from their brokenness, from their disorder, from their misery, from their unhappiness, these cushions that they use or these medications or these, whatever they are, you know, that they use to fix their mood from one day to the next. They need that stuff. They need it. And it makes that person, it takes that person

completely out of the running for social dissidents. that person can't even take a month off work, let alone go and protest what the government's doing. And so they become, as we now have in America, miserable, demoralized wage slaves who are living in a prison of compound interest debt and who live lives they never want it and wouldn't choose, but which was sort of provided for them as an aspirational lifestyle goal by the same press that. and they can't afford and they're frightened of taking that time off and seeing what it would mean and then other things begin to happen which will just start noticing now

in the last 10, 20 years in America others that crazy making things start to happen I live in a house a friend of my a friend of mine owns his house it is a 1920s travertine marble and concrete mansion huge whacking great thing on top of a hill

and it is the only house I've ever been in in America that feels solid like it might be here in 50 years everything else in America you must having been to Europe so much now with your husband you must the architecture

things just feel like they're going to last and you're not wrong you're not imagining it I always tell this story and people get sort of this but my mother had a corkscrew that she bought in Paris

when I was a baby which she still had when I was 18 and I know that because I stole it that worked fine and you know We're Brits, so we were drinkers. I mean, she was using that thing every day.

And it lasted, you can't buy one that lasts a year in America. I mean, lucky if you can farm that last six months, right? Everything about the built environment is becoming disposable, dispensable, fragile. The walls are getting thinner, so you can hear the people next to you. And, you know, you might have somehow managed to beat the economics of 2025 and buy yourself a house. But that house is falling apart the moment it's finished. Things are peeling. The workmanship is, you know, is terrible.

The materials are terrible. Everything is done, everything is done in a slipshod fashion. And it makes people, it makes people terrified of taking risks because so much about their life is uncertain or painful or uncontrollable or chaotic already. And so, you know, you have people trapped in this jail trying to keep abreast of repairs on their house. repairs on the car. I mean, every consumer device now is $2,000 or $3,000 in breaks, you know. That is not all right. But every single thing is like it now. I was looking for... Americans definitely have been kind of taught, sorry to cut you off, but Americans sort of have been taught to like embrace this new, new culture, stainless steel. Everything is so clinical.

But it's sold as a signifier of wealth when anybody from a truly wealthy... background in Europe will tell you that is this sign of poverty of only being able to afford something that doesn't last. You know, when black Americans were first emancipated and they were building these new lives,

black consumers in America in the 1950s and 60s went into department stores and bought the best that they could afford, the best brands, the best quality brands, because they knew it had to last, because they were building a life, a life that had a future.

They were looking ahead to their children, having a destiny in America, and they wanted to build something real and something with foundation, right? You hear a lot of black grandmas these days that's your foundation, right? It's a big word that you hear like maybe two generations up in black America.

That's your foundation. Ayanna says it a lot. You know, the Ayanna Van Zahn. The consumers in 1950s, if you worked in a department store, you would know if a black couple came in or a wife, she wanted the, not the most ostentatious one

but the very best quality brand better than the white people would buy and she was going to look after it take care of it, have it for 20 years you know, that's what you do when you have an investment in the future that's what you do when you have hope for the future that's what you do when you're building

something that will be a legacy for generations to come what we have now especially in white working class America where the raison d'être of the town has gone as well as everything falling into pieces but really just in the country generally is this um flattening and and um cheapening of all our life through this fake um oh uh wealthy people just throw it away when they're done

with it you know waste the sort of um uh uh uh this wealth mythology that americans have been sold like if if you can just buy another one that means you're doing well right and it doesn't matter that it broke or um or that you you buy like i was thinking I'm a cat person I was looking at those robots because I'm not touching litter and my maid can't be there every day

Oh yeah, the litter robots Yeah And the leader in the market Which costs $700 And they've been making these things since 1990 Killed two cats three months ago They still haven't got it right They still don't make it right

You know I either take it off the market Or don't build cheap And the reason is that it was built so cheaply that the magnets kind of fell over and trapped and killed it because even things that are designed to go in your home for the benefit of living creatures

are made with such contempt and carelessness and yet priced so astronomically as to as to make everyone crazy and it has made everyone crazy. And even in regards to food this idea of it like, well we can feed more people

what are you feeding them? You're feeling them crap. Nothing is in anymore. That's what I always say about America. Nothing is ancestral. When you say ancestral, I mean, even if you think about people's families, that people don't know where they come from anymore, right? So there's nothing that has any substance. There's nothing that has that foundation. People can't imagine the world before they were born. And they're trying to speed that up. And that is, that is the danger that I see in AI. It's the reason why while everyone else is sort of embracing this. People are giving the heroes welcome when Elon Musk joined the administration. I'm sitting here going, this is terrible. This is not a good idea. He actually believes in transhumanism. Okay. Is his father the founder or something? His grandfather. His grandfather was a part of this sort of transhumanist movement in Canada. This is difficult for me because I'm going blind and I have about five or six years of vision left. And so his chip is probably the only thing that's hold out any hope of me being able to make my own way.

You don't ever give the government access to your brain? The problem is... We already have given the government access to our brain and look at what's happened. The problem is somebody could put me in pastels without me knowing. And you know, some way to go in my mind. recovery. No, but you know, his thing is just about the only, it is, I saw a woman

writing with it on the screen and I was like, oh, that's one of those that's like, that's like Christ in the desert kind of like a glass of water kind of territory and it's like, oh, I must have it. You know, you know, really, really mesmerizing, alluring, kind of sickening sort of a, of an inducement, of an enticement, you know. That's how they get you. Yes, yes, of course. I was amused to see that the

latest iteration of self-driving cars is consistently turning people straight into oncoming traffic. It's like, yeah, even the cars want to kill themselves. It's like, this is the whole thing. It's like they want to control every aspect of your life, including your brain. So it's not enough to just fill your mind

with propaganda and lies every single day. Now they're like actually open up your mind. They're going to start to chip into it. They would steer your car for you. Or could possibly go wrong. If you had these people who found, like the foundation of that transhumanist thought was the idea that they're like, hey, we don't actually believe in democracy.

You think too many people are stupid. We are the smart people. Allow us to rule the world. Actually, his grandfather, particularly Elon Musk's grandfather, great-grandfather in Canada, was a part of the technocratic movement, right? So they believe in a technocracy.

This is my problem with America. When you rip out God and the king, you can't replace it with the stars and stripes and a couple of slogans. You can't just say, oh, freedom, Fourth of July. And think that, that an entire intricate system of human governance and flourishing and culture and faith

that was all leading, tending up toward that capstone on earth as it is in heaven, an earthly reflection of the heavenly order, the aristocracy and the king, the angels and our lord. Rip that out of the heart of the system and expect everything to be okay because you don't just get rid of it, you make room for something worse to move in. Right. Hollywood, the king and the king and the queen. The Beyonce's, the JZs, you see people worshipping Hollywood.

And the problem is that if you have a bad king, you're not supposed to, but you can kill him. You can assassinate him. And people do. When there's a crazy, cruel, terrible king who's doing absolutely insane things, somebody kills him eventually. But if you don't know the names of the people who rule over you, because they're all hiding behind the rippling stars and stripes like this, making a fortune from you, poisoning you, lying to you, experimenting on you. mutilating your children or convincing you to do it this is that when the Russians said that we'll know that America's conquered when people don't just

people will see their chains love them and ask for more and don't we live in that situation now where we've got parents asking doctors to mutilate their own kids just to relieve their own consciences of whatever it was that they messed up during parenting, or for even worse reasons.

I mean, the things that single mothers are prepared to their kids, there's almost no depth to the horror of it. We, in 7076 does not make America a free of monarchy. It just means you don't know who's in charge and you'll never be able to hold them accountable. Who do you think is in charge? Good question. It seems obvious to me from everything we know about empires and long, long-lasting cultures, how and when they fall, how and when they do it, the characteristics

that it has, I think we can see in that hints about the perpetual elite class that seems to kind of exist throughout the, because those are the excesses, I think, that the elites embodied that they can do, but when it permeates down to the rest of society, things fall part. So at the end of Rome, you know, you have the Visigoths sacking the city and the senators are not doing what they're supposed to do. They're not in the Senate. They're out with child prostitutes or they're gay orgies or their whatever. When you start to see the, I think that Camille Pahlia, we're not supposed to quote anymore because people keep finding things about man-boy love in her books. But other than that, she's pretty good on most subjects.

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and then America is getting very close and the more that I examine getting back to Sigmund Freud and Hollywood what was super interesting to me is to learn that the guiding theology seems to be the Kabbalah. And when you think about what the Kabbalists believe and part of it is oral tradition

so we'll never really know what they believe but Sigmund Freud was a Kabbalist at least if David Bakon and other historians are to be believed there is this combination of a man becoming the woman and in Hollywood Babylon it talks about how we imported

which is where Sigmund Freud was living and working in Vienna. They alt-veen, this old Vienna culture, literally came over. They were bringing them over, these literal pedophiles. And Marlene Dietrich trying to tell women in America, which they did successfully, you should be wearing

pants suits, making these people seem iconic. Like, oh my gosh, she's blending the male. Don't come from Marlena Dietrich. That's going to make me very sad. Yeah, no, she was one of them. They brought her over. They found her in old. They found her. No, you have to. She's a part of this.

You don't know what it took for me to let go of dinosaurs. And it took me years. I know. It took me years to let go of dinosaurs. But dinosaurs is hard for guys. Jurassic Park is like the... I know. It is the...

Aside from... They are fake and gay, though. Aside from getting raped, it is the like seminal moment of my child. Sorry. Dinosaurus. No, going to see Jurassic Park in the movies for the first time. I watched that movie 500 times.

I'm not exaggerating. What about boys and dinosaurs? They just love them so much. Oh, we love them so much. Right. You like the idea of them. I know that movie backwards. I know every... line of dialogue

I had I I taught myself you know you remember where she says this is a unix system

I know this Lex the the computer geek girl who figures out how to lock the doors

when the velocarapt all right okay you don't know but when the velociraptures are hunting them in the

visitor center right towards the end she figures out how to close the doors like I bought a computer like that

and taught my it was like that was such a penetrating thing for me Jurassic Park and dinosaurs like I wanted to

use the same computer they had in the movie I had my it was everywhere and I still love it and I still have a soft sport of it and to let go of dinosaurs

is very difficult and not quite ready for Marlena Dietrich you know you you need to be ready for that because I'm telling you she was imported over here by a bunch of German pedophiles

for a reason and then when you look at the pictures of her with Pierre Bourget Eve St. Laurent Pierre Lillard Pierre Lige, all of these people who are interested in bending the gender and fashion, the whole fashion, Balenciaga, the kids. I mean, this is, now that I'm getting into the culture of Brigitte and who Brigitte was

friends with, and all of them just happened to have a thing for, you know, kids. You've been telling you about French designers, and I've been very reassured by my instincts to discover that when I return to my wardrobe, it is Dolceigabana, Vasachi, Loro Piana. It's all Italian. Yeah, I haven't, yeah, I haven't gotten into, they have different problems. They have different problems, yeah. But the French designers... The French designers all have...

They liked little boys. Harim's of Catamones. Yep, and they absolutely loved Marlene Dietrich for a reason. Although I don't think that Karl Lagerfeld did, actually. I think Carl Lagerfeld was gay, but I don't think he was into it. I think he was one of the few that wasn't... All I'm going to do is... And the way that I know that is because he was very unrepentantly and joyfully,

uh, racist and sexist and un-PC. And he didn't seem to be part of the cult of conformity and have... you know, it didn't have anything in common with the other, but I need to believe this, okay? I will say this. He has not yet come up in my research, so there's that. Okay, so you have, but the fashion industry really was built upon. You have to allow me my fictions, because I'll go crazy without them. You, we mentioned, I'll allow Carl Agrippel to be your dinosaur. We mentioned, no, I'll let him be your dinosaur right now.

We mentioned a last show that your radical skepticism is the only rational position in a world like ours. But I am a romantic. I'm, you know, I'm with a capital R, you know, and I, I, I, I can't go on with everything taken. I must have, I must have, I must have. Well, Eve St. Laurent and Pierre Berger were into defecation during sex, so that's why they split up. Yeah, them and every Saudi, I mean, if you, so if you've ever seen anyone on Instagram that's kind of impossibly beautiful and usually, um, uh, mostly unclothed, that's a prostitute. They are escorts.

And those people go to Dubai, um, a couple times a year. to have the most extraordinarily depraved things done to them in exchange for... This is what these fashion designers were into. And so this is, as I'm researching, and sadly this came up and I was wondering about Emmanuel Macron. It'd be difficult to give up, the cast of characters around them, but learning what they were into and a lot of their male prostitutes then spoke up and their sex slaves. They had these sex slaves. But it is quite something. I bring this up only to really underscore that our entire society, Hollywood, right, was shaped.

We were literally all being unwittingly indebted. doctrine it into a culture of homosexuality, transgenderism, you know, the belief of the male and the female coming together to form a one is Kabbalist. Because if you lose France, you lose Chanel and Dior. And those are girl brands. Whereas Italy, I mean, it would be devastating to lose Italian shoes or suits. I'm now convinced. So it's worse for women to lose France because France is the pinnacle of female fashion.

It's the home of haute couture, right? So, you know, you want one of those extraordinarily expensive dresses cut just for you by, you know. And you should read what they were doing. Like they thought it was inspiring for them to be with these young boys. I can imagine. It ruins everything. I was gay for long enough. I can imagine.

Yeah, exactly. And this sadistic treatment of women putting them, you know, the whole model culture and fashion, which sometimes is directed at the beautiful and sensual and pleasing. But more often these days is a kind of ugly humiliation and debasement. The things that, oh, no, we've got to give up Tyra Banks as well because she's passed. The entire fashion industry. I can't handle this much truth. You do, you know, we know, we look at it now and we're like, okay, yeah, everybody in the fashion industry is gay.

But the humiliation that they put women through, the cruelty they put women through in fashion, the gay men. Why? Because they're visiting the, they're visiting the, they know that their moms did it to them. Oh, I have a question. Yeah. I was going to ask you this. So something that I have noticed, gay men hate women. Too many of them, not all of them, obviously. But what I'm saying is that there is a certain level of vitriol that is reserved for women. Why does that come from? I don't understand. It is, they lash out at other women because they can't at their mothers who did it to them. So when, when, I have this. I have it. I have it. I'm not proud of it. I mean, sometimes I am because it's funny, and then I have to kind of catch myself. Just the other day, I took more pleasure than I should.

More pleasure. Certainly, them as charitable in sharing the, you know, sexual history and peccadillos of some turning point influencer. And I found myself posting a picture of a man she had public sex with at a TPSA party, saying I really shouldn't post this she is getting married in 11 days she was

you know and it I mean in retrospect yes it is still funny and you could make a case that it's justified but I didn't do it because I wanted to improve the moral standing of women I did it because it was mean Yeah but why do gay men have a mean streak?

It's because it's because there is there is a wound that will never heal at the heart of every gay person made by their mothers who for instance so you know that there's a higher

self-reported incidents of homosexuality in black and Jewish among black and Jewish Americans you can guess why, right? Well I definitely have noticed that a high incident of a lot of gay people that are Jewish And black? Black people, I'd imagine, because of prison. No. Well, yes. Fatherlessness, yes. So if you have no male role models is bad enough. But that's not what black kids experience.

Black kids experience a steady drip feed of poison from their own mothers about the male role models they should have had who made them. And eventually the mothers will start visiting this stuff on the sons when the sons become sufficiently like their dad. When they start having sex, when they start getting girlfriends, mom starts treating the son. But then what's the, what's the, what about Jewish people? Because their families are together. What is it? Think about the Jewish marriages that you know. Think about the couples.

You have almost, almost exclusively, you have larger than life, raucous women with nebish, scholarly, quiet men who take almost no interest in the raising of the children. And the women who are so unbearably, exhaustingly, exasperating that he, the husbands just let them make all the decisions about how the house goes, right? and how the house is run. I like to compare Jewish weddings to Jewish marriages to lion taming. You have, you know, you have this little guy and it's unlike a female suffrage, let's say, in London, where it's the men granting it to the women. Women are asking for it, but it's the men that have to give it to them. It was Jewish women who appointed themselves rabbis, who said,

If my husband's an idiot, I could be a rabbi, you know. No, the Jewish women were behind the feminist movement in America. They were behind the revolution in Russia. So this is what I'm saying. So overbearing mothers and absent, inadequate or neglectful fathers, that's a recipe for homosexuality. Just as much as some other more physically traumatic or psychologically traumatic events might be. That particular combination, the overbearing. micromanaging mother

who thinks she knows best but does not know what a boy needs and the father who's useless or absent or in my case is a killer that's how you make gays crap dads and omnipresent octomomom

but you know what I mean boys especially they need a father or some kind of male role model women cannot raise boys by themselves they don't know what men need to form platonic relationships with other men because those moms never have themselves. They've only ever bounced from a unsatisfactory boyfriend to unsatisfactory boyfriend. And in most cases, don't have a good relationship with their own brothers and fathers.

It's actually so interesting. I think the biggest question you can ask anyone is what their relationship is like with their mother and their father. This is the reason why they're attacking family, because when you come from a nuclear family, a healthy family dynamic, a mother and a father. You are vulnerable to 90% of. the warfare. Yeah, that they're trying to...

Think about the Catholic family... They want to enslave us. So it's like the easiest way they can enslave any... Any... If you're... Think about the Catholic families you know. Think about the Catholic families you know

who aren't converts but have been like going to the parish for like 20 years, right? How unreachable they are by Lizzo or... Or campus rape culture or transgender...

Whatever. If they were even to hear... hear of such things, which of course they do from time of time. They would regard it with a mixture of pity, horror and amusement. They're completely immunized against it because they have their needs met

by an authentic relationship with our Lord and each other, a healthy family, right? Because they have no or at least less fewer, dysfunctions, diseases, mental illnesses, of course, the vast majority of mental

illness is just guilt from sin. they have less of that because they're going to confession every week or they don't need the system they don't need the drugs they don't need to be lied to they don't need the mood fixes they don't need a car that's not even nice but just expensive looking and and expensive and flimsy and on credit you know catholic those catholic families where everybody's you kind of almost feel awkward to be around them as like everybody's like so well behaved you know like well no don't say shit don't say shit

you know in my brain of course it gets much worse than that you know I'm just like the most deprave thing I can think pops into my head

and I just have to leave but they're not tempted they always they always drive they drive hoopties you know because that's all you need it's like who cares those people

who have a strong family and God they don't need anything that the devil is selling So true. You know, it's funny, going back to what you were saying about the transcendentals, I think about this even in regards to music. So I can't listen to the music that I used to listen to. Suddenly the cursing sounds very harsh to me to my ears. What have you gone off? What did you used to be able to listen to listen to? I still have it on my phone, but like a lot of, a lot of swearing, a lot of crap. Well, I listened to everything. I've always listened to everything. You know, I mean, I grew up listening to Lauren Hill and like Whitney Houston.

Oh, that's perfectly respectable. Right, exactly. But what I mean is. that I used to be able to mix in, I would almost say I actually started listening to more rap music when I got into college, you know, and even, I mean, so many different songs, even if I go back and listen to when I love Christine Aguilera, right? Like a girl, normal teenage. But there's something off about her now, isn't there? When you go back and listen to it, I'm like, this is so sexual and she was 17 years old, she's calling herself a gene and a bottle that needs to be rubbed. And I'm like, this is pornography for your ears. I'm a genie in a bottle got to rub me the right way. Yes, and she was 17 years old.

When you see the dirty video and you realize that this is a girl who has been wrecked by the entertainment industry, and they then use her damage to sell sex in a different way. Ariana Grande, I've been it all night. I bend it all day. And when you actually abstain, it takes very, actually, when you begin abstaining, it isn't unlike a recovery and that your ears repair, your brain repairs. It's like diets. I mean, but then. So I understand. I've never been on a diet. But I understand that if you eat salad, you stop listening to it, even if you stop listening to it, if people are listening at home. challenge yourself to stop listening to maybe all music, right, for, for, let's call it a month,

and then go back and try to listen to something with expletives, and you suddenly go, whoa. And you know why? You know why? It's Aristotle. Habits become character. We're creatures of routine and habit. That's why we have to do the rosary, why we have to go to mass on Sundays. It's why church is a regular commitment and not a one-off. It's why we're encouraged to do these rituals, right? It's why Catholicism is so good for drug addicts snapping out of it, because you can replace the bad rituals of the

drugs and sex with the wholesome rituals of things like the Rosary, right? The Angelus, whatever. We are creatures of habit. Indeed, half the species are creatures of a literal cycle, a repeating

period of time that dictates everything about all of our lives, but is also you know it's kind of the primary way in which we measure time the seasons the months you know because of the natural cycle of womanhood women find it especially easy to fall in so it's always women that you will find you know at back of church doing the rosaries like every day at the same time men find it difficult to to be consistent about that sometimes because they're you know out here doing this that this that and wherever but we're creatures of habit and so we can

make ourselves um you can get better you can get better um what have you've been drawn to that you didn't use to listen to that you do now. And then I'm going to tell you a crazy story about what happened to me when I stopped being gay, but what have you, what have you sort of started going, okay. A lot of things. Well, first and foremost, I would say I did not, when we first got married and my husband loves the chanting, the Magorian chants. It's difficult, isn't it?

It's a lot to take. It's a lot to take in. It is. Even I have trouble with it. The Anglican tradition is so much more, you know, the raw wedding music. I was glad all that the grand wonderful kind of

pomp and ceremonies that is so much easier to listen to than look a lot of Catholics have trouble with Gagorian chant it is

for me I still find it more of a meditative aid than a pleasure I seek out right but I think one of the things that I've noticed

though is just kind of which was what Bishop Berer wrote in his book which I think was actually a major contributor

to me wanting to be Catholic was when he said that anything that becomes broken and becomes away from being whole gets closer to the devil, right? So if you start to break down a family, if you start to break down music,

if you take down, if you take anything and you start to fracture it, the more fractured it becomes, the closer it becomes to the devil, right? So syncopation in rap and... But think about it, holy is also W-H-O-L-L-Y, right? It can be holy or holy, but you want something to be whole, right?

And what the devil is constantly trying to do is to fracture things, like whether it's to fracture the family... Well, wholesome is certainly... Yeah, well, I now think of these two terms, not unlike each other. When I think of holy and I think of holy, well, the reason, yes. I think that you... This is correct, because...

You want the family unit to be together. You want the church to be together. Even if you think about Protestantism, what is it? It's the constant breaking down. Okay, well, this was the, this was the church. Now we're this, and then they break from them, and then they break from them. And then it's constantly being fractured. The greatest sin you can commit, aside from suicide, perhaps, is schism to break, you know?

Right. The way that I think about it, which I think about it, which I think, think we're saying the same thing, is the natural law that underpins our religious injunctions. Is everything, is it things are correct when everything is performing the function for which it was intended, everything in its right place, you know? And so, when, when things are lifted out from or broken apart from their natural habitat and their natural function, they set off chain reactions of things going wrong. For homosexuality being an example, But also, you know, there's all kinds of ways in which Christians will say, you know, let one sin in the others will follow.

And they're describing the runaway effects of breaking a bit off. And that's exactly what happens to gay personalities in a psychiatric sense. And it's what happens to families. If the government can do it. You know, some of the sickest and most depraved things that the government does are things that most of you. of your program probably won't know about and people like us will never encounter directly

in our lives, the ways in which the government treats people when they are down on their luck and trying to rebuild some semblance of a family unit the penalties, the financial penalties and the threat of homelessness that is dangled over the heads

of single mothers should they make the mistake of getting a boyfriend who could be a dad to their child, who could be a husband for them, who could, you know, who knows, but obviously some kids, whatever, but they're seeking something more wholesome, more coherent, more closer to, you know, and the state, you know, there's so many people in the situation where if you're single mom and you have a kid, you're going to lose, if, if there's suddenly a live-in man, like you have a boyfriend around too much, you could lose your, your social housing and you could lose

some or part of your welfare. Like the perverse incentives that the system has set up for the only possible reason is to keep those people exactly where they are. Exactly to enslave people. Exactly where they are.

Which is exactly what it was. They mainstreamed welfareism by saying to women, hey, it's a negative incentive, but don't marry the father. They actually used to send people around to examine the homes to make sure there was no man living there, to make sure that there was a single woman.

It still happens. Wow. It still happens. I've acquired through my former marriage some from my former relationship some cousins in Philly who live much closer to that kind of life than I do and it still happens

and people live in fear of improving their lot of making wholesome good choices designed to make their lives and their kids lives healthier, wealthier, happier, more successful, because they're afraid that they'll get, they're afraid that they won't be able to survive in the

in the gap that the savagery of the welfare system creates. And it's all on purpose and it's all designed to keep them exactly where they are. Single mom with a kid at home. A kid therefore is being raised by Harrodin's term against and witches at school.

and the mom is just too wrapped up in keeping the plate spinning to be able to think too much about what their child will be what their aspirations might look like or where the family will be in 10 years because she's exhausted and she still doesn't make all the bill payments every month and the kid is slowly being raised by these demons in schools

with pink hair and pride flags told if they're a little bit fruffy, a little bit, how do you do, a little bit light in the loafers, sugar in the tank, as we say, fully, that they're not gay

from which there is a possibility of recovery, but they need to have their penis chopped off. And mom, they're so tired, and addicted to her prescription medication, and so exhausted and confused and unhappy, miserable, and, and,

and just demoralized and deflated that she goes along with it and even maybe find some comfort in it because she didn't want to be the woman on the block with a gay kid. And that is a deliberate construction of the people that we're talking about, the people behind, you know,

the Anderson Cooper's and the Don Lemons and the witches of the view now gratefully canceled. It's canceled. to say it's cancelled if I ever see a TV guide I'll just so my maid has been told

anything that comes in a windowed envelope to just throw it away I started doing this 10 years ago and nothing bad happens so I just kept doing it it's brilliant you know if you like really really

owe somebody money you find out about eventually so I have all these kind of silly rules that just keep me amused so I'm going to have I'll have the view cut out the TV guide downstairs

there doesn't exist it's gone it's gone it doesn't exist I don't see it But no, these terrible situations that so many people are in that have been architected by instruments of the Prince of the Power of the Air

You know, it's tough to, it's tough to look at America and not think that we are at that precipitous crisis at that moment of collapse that other empires have experienced. 10 years ago, Douglas Murray, who used to be so much more interesting than he is now, unfortunately, it said, we're going to be squabbling over transgender pronouns when the mullah's nucus. And, you know, what he was getting at was this sort of decadent preoccupation with things we shouldn't even be discussing little and figure out what the right answer is, you know, while we lose sight of soft preservation and sanity and sense and everything else.

It's very difficult to look out and not just say, you know what, I'm going to go to church. and make sure I'm good with God and stay away from everybody. Right. I've struggled with that because, you know, I had a, as most people know, you know, I had a little hiccup in 2017 where I was found myself on national television, apologizing for being raped. Yeah, we should talk about that. Maybe not, maybe not. We don't need to get to the big subject.

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do you not think it's just as important? Because, like you said, you were married to a man. I also have a moral responsibility for the next 50 years to help other people. But don't you feel that, like you said, like you said, my worry. But don't you feel that like you said, I really, I deeply regret that I was married and I'm representing this homosexual lifestyle. She's clever. She's clever. She remembered this. Yeah, when you said that.

You regret it. You're so wily. You're so wily. Why wouldn't you want to do the opposite and speak about these things? You're so tricky. And just be honest about everything that you've lived through and what you've done so that people can learn from you. Because if I say, if I get onto a platform and I say, you know, homosexuality, you know, you'll start living a life of sin. It may not have, if you're a person who's dealing with homosexuality or your person who's in school and someone's telling you you are a homosexual and maybe you don't feel like you are homosexual, they may need to hear it from somebody else who's lived that life.

I will say this. I have I've lived a life of immense privilege, unearned genetic advantage. You know, I've really, I know, I've had everything very easy. And there have been a few things that have happened to me in my life that have been genuinely terrible

and that most people probably wouldn't have dealt with like I did, maybe it's because I didn't have anything else to worry about or maybe I've just built a resilient. But finding somebody for the first time in 35 years that you think is the first person in your life that loves you back and that you know you finally don't feel so alone and thinking well I might be this but at least I'm kind of whatever and then having to give that person out because you realize

you're living a life is simply not acceptable to God and see what it does to that person's life and what it does to your life that was the worst thing that I've ever done to another person leaving your leaving the worst thing that's ever happened to me and the worst thing about it was he knew already because of course you do when you care about somebody you can see things happening. He was messing with you spiritually. He could sense that. He knew that I wasn't in the room anymore. I wasn't present in the room anymore and that I was having some kind of crisis about that part of my life. And he knew already and he'd already come to terms of it and he'd done his grieving for the relationship. So I'm there like, I've just ruined this person's life and

they're being really nice to me and asking me if I'm okay because I'm not. And so that was horrible. and, you know, the priest thing, I said, I shouldn't say it again and get cancelled for another 10 years, but I will, in common with a lot of people that this happens to, I didn't perceive it as being as bad at the time as the effect I now realize it had on me, right? It wasn't like a, it wasn't a violent, brutal situation, right? And I didn't know until after I got cancelled, thanks.

You know, when I had time to... That you had started loving your victim, not loving your, not more your oppressor, I mean, That I didn't realize that it was responsible for so much of me that was wrong, right? And what it had done to me, I thought I kind of got away with that. I even sort of thought, well, kind of, I think I was sort of the sexual aggressor in that situation. You know, I didn't realize what it had left me with. To have that and then, you know, the husband and then I have a lot of health problems now, too. going blind and God knows what else

I joke with my spiritual director that when I get to heaven I'm going to march up to our Lord and say I want an apology say you're sorry and he says our Lord will outstretch his hands and you will see his stigmatry and you will feel profoundly ashamed

for the fraction of a second before you plunge down into the lake of fire don't do that when you get to heaven I'm just kidding but I have felt like that sometimes I have had that difficult relationship where I'm like haven't you done enough Like, are we not good?

Like, enough. And I, I've said to a few people recently, which always upsets them. But I mean, it's like, I'm ready to be with Jesus. Like, I'm tired. You know, I'm like, I'm good. But I have a feeling, and there's a reason for this, which is a horrible, gruesome reason that you won't want to hear about. I'm telling you anyway.

That, unfortunately, I think he has plans for me to be here for many decades yet, doing something along the lines you suggest. When I, all gay sex is an exercise in humiliation and in self-harm. In my case, it was particularly so wanting to be physically subjugated by a much stronger, larger man. And I settled on African-American men as being the sort of athletic, hyper-masculine thing that was doing it for me. And in the course of, you know, over 20 years, I guess it would be 20, yeah, 20 years of being an active homosexual. I mean, I had a lot of sex and a lot of unprotected sex

with a lot of people from a group where half of all of them get AIDS. 50% of gay black men get HIV. And I've done the math. And it breaks every law of math, physics, biology, and chemistry

that I don't have HIV. It is mathematically impossible that I don't have it, but I don't. And that is that is a God thing because it would have been an easy way out oh yeah yeah fine show

you're going to spread that misery around to others be a participant in their in their sin as well you know because you're two people doing it to each other at the same time as you're doing it to yourself and then you're going to make it okay to be a gay

Republican which is really bad Mila and then you're just going to get to that no no you've got five long decades of making it so I know I know I know I know. I'm dragging my feet at the moment because I'm enjoying this kind of interregnum fiction of being retired when an actual fact, you know who I work for. And I'm like working like a dog all day every day. But I enjoy the, you know, I always like to make it look easy. So I always try to have an air of studied nonchalance. So I try to, I like to have this, I have this sort of thing I like. Oh, no, I'm retired. I'm retired. I'm sorry, you don't deserve me. I'm retired. Yeah. But I know that at some point it will have to happen. Yeah. I think so.

I mean, I would definitely... Like Augustine, not yet. Well, you'll know. I think you'll know when the moment comes. I think God puts people in certain... In their path for a reason, and I think you've lived through a lot. Right now, I know he wants me to do what I'm doing now because the person I'm working for needs me in certain ways.

And I'm... I know that I have to finish that task. But after that, it'll be time to return to my duties. Yeah, exactly. I think so. And next time you're going to be... I think you're going to be completely sober in a few years. Sober from everything.

Well, I'll never be that. Now, come on. The English can get sober. I'm British. That would be like saying go to a therapist. It's ridiculous. What we do instead is we bury it. We bury it.

We drink and we invade Ghana. No, there will be, there will never be a day when I don't, you know, I'm getting better. I will say this. Like, Adderall got me off cocaine. I continually get, I continually take steps in good, positive, healthy directions. I found myself being irritated with the fact that medication I was almost getting in the way of my prayer life

and I was like, oh my God, who am I? Who have I become? It's just because I was like stumbling over my words and I was like, this is annoying. Oh, God, you know, pick the narcotics or the blessed mother at Milo, who are you? So I have confronted with those kinds of things now and normally don't disappoint myself,

but you will prize a pino-grigio out of my cold dead hands girl it is it is part of our holiest ceremony wine is it is it is a it is um

the substance that our Lord has chosen to manifest in it is drinking is Catholic Catholic's drink that's all there is to it I have never trusted

Titoil people I regard anybody who doesn't drink with extreme suspicion and and contempt honestly to be honest with you which is really everyone in America. But nobody drinks anymore. I was very reassured to hear that you had a glass of wine under social pressure,

which means that you are not one of those people. I did have a glass of wine under social pressure. You did, you did. But a one solitary glass of wine your whole life is not going to do too much damage. Especially, but that's reassuring because it means you're not one of the bad guys. But there are people who would have said no. Honestly, now I probably would say no. It's just part of being a mom.

You've got to be up so early. Now you've got an excuse. Yeah, exactly. I have to be up early with the cats, but I am still going to drink myself to sleep. No, look, I'm not going to say that I have like the perfect clean and pious life. I don't. But I will say within very narrow limits, I do, you know, I do like a drink, whatever.

And to some extent it is not making excuses for, you know, this is classic sinner move about to happen here. Well, really, it's because it stops me doing this worst thing. but it does you know the fact you know having a couple of glass of wine going to sleep

instead of being up all night like I would have been before and 3 a.m when the you know 3am is the witching hour for your libido

you know instead having drifted off nicely after a whiskey with a cat in my arm and a book on my lap that for me is a way better way to end the day

than spending six hours tossing and turning wrestling with a you know the semen demon so sorry so I have

have to call them that because I found that the most effective way to leave things behind was to make them ridiculous so that it was sort of preposterous that I can't even imagine myself doing it like sex with black people at black, are you crazy? I tried to make it into a joke

and now I kind of like laugh when I hear it so it sort of feels like it was somebody else so you know I just turned everything into sort of an I turned everything into an absurdity that is absurd, that is disordered you know so so that that was helpful for me because i you know it's difficult to um to stay horny when you're laughing uh so you know although the british uh anyway anyway um so you know i think i

have um maybe a prematurely geriatric uh life and routine from which i will uh emerge one day but right now while i'm staying on the straight and narrow not pulling off the wagon as far as the gay stuff goes, and continuing to, you know, put in a good day's work for our friend and getting better with my spiritual life all the time. I mean, I learned Latin for goodness sake. That's fantastic. Drug addicts don't learn Latin in their spare time. But I got a tutor for three years and now I can translate the Gospels and I understand the liturgies. That's amazing. It is amazing. That is truly amazing. It is amazing. It's the best thing I ever did my whole life. It is amazing. That kind of stuff, I think, is really important to me to have

like a decade off. I'm a self-indulgent, lazy piece of, you know what, and I have the personality I have, Gay or Straight, but I'm self-indulgent. But I have tried to use the self-indulgent time somewhat wisely. And I think I have. When I come back, I'm going to be deadly but um well my little no one's ever doubted that that you're brilliant and so what you'll fill your time with it's it's it's exhausting you know it's suffocating i've always wanted to be more oblivious you know i wanted to go through life you know like a like a woman or um or or or an ethnic minority just enjoying the the sort of drift um but always been sort of hyper aware and so you know just just just just just just just you know um you don't have that but but uh um you know just

sort of, I don't know, I can't remember if I parked on the third or the fourth floor. I would love not to remember details. I would love not to notice things. I would love not to draw connections. I would love it if I didn't know when people close to me were lying to me and I always do because I have this pattern matching brain

that notices everything they're doing and I'm like, why are you lying to me? Maybe there's a good reason, but it makes me sad every time. And I would love to take all those dials down. It's a great curse to be, um, um, uh, uh, you know, witty, brilliant, handsome, um, popular and successful. Um, there's a, I, there's a, there's a, uh, um, it's a David Brooks book or something about, um, uh, uh, how, uh, Disney punishes

athletic kids, because it tells these ugly, ugly duckling failings to which they cannot possibly relate. And, uh, you know, sort of, it's, it's the popular athletic kids at school who are the raw victims because they don't have any stories that tell, that, that speak to their lives. It's all about like, you know, it's all about losers and also rounds. Where's the kids' book for the cheerleader? Where's the kids' book for the quarterback? I like to say, you know, I've lived a life of

extraordinary ease and privilege, but I've never allowed that to stand in my way. No, I think I know when I have conversations with people like you who are insightful and having integrity and gently in that lovely way, remind me I've got lots left to do. I'm in such mom mode. I'm always momming everyone. No, but I need that because I didn't have a nice mom. I had a cocaine addict. So, you know, I didn't have a mother. I had a, I had,

because you can do better. That's it. It's like, you know, if you, we all can do better. So let me not make it seem like I'm excusing myself from that. But you're brilliant. And I obviously, a lot of my political philosophy or at the beginning of my political philosophy really began with reading you when you were on Braybart, and I know you have a lot to contribute. And I got to read the political side, but you've lived through a lot, you know, being a sex abuse victim, someone who moved. I feel like Lauren Hill. I can't do a second album after this much pressure. But I do think your voice is missing. I think there's a lot of people that could. I will tell you this, a decade of imitators, and really nobody comes close. It's been very sad, very tragic to what you've blossomed remarkably and beautifully into somebody very form and

And a couple of other people have, but other than that, it's quite a sorry field, isn't it? It's starting to look like our architecture. Yeah. No, but no, it's flimsy. It's very flimsy. No, I mean, you look at it. It's really basic out there.

The standard, I mean, the standard of discourse on the conservative rights. It's not interesting at all. It's 20 IQ points lower even than it was in 2015. It's so basic. We were smart in 2015. It's like a starter pack. We were funny. We were smart.

And now you have. Interesting. Yeah. And now you have like three clients. and one of them just says do, do, do all day and one of them says this and one of them says that

it's just, it's so intolerably dull. Boring. Not one of them has ever been to an art gallery. Not one of them has ever read a real book. You know, I mean,

I will, I will eat this mic if, you know, if it emerges that Nick Fuenza's ever read any book, cover to cover. Like, these people don't know anything. And it's, so it does frustrating. I think part of it is that

even the people, maybe at some point people were reading books. And then I think the problem is once you have a platform. Well, they were reading mine and then I retired. It's my fault. Once you have a platform and you're in that feedback loop and people are like, you're amazing, you're great.

Maybe people stop learning. They become less interested. I think that they've arrived at the end, the conclusion. Another thing I did is I did write a lot of bad books for other people, which has contributed to the general collapse in standards because I've been ghostwriting in those 10 years and, you know, the kinds of people you're going to. ghost writing for it. They're not intellectuals. And so, you know, I think, I think I've, really is all my fault, isn't it? Yeah. I made it, I made it dumb, fake and gay. Yeah. I think that is actually

a perfect place to end it. It's all, it's all Milo's fault. He has made everything dumb and fake and and gay. And this is the problem that we find ourselves in American society. Everything is dumb, fake and gay because of Violinopolis. I'm so sorry. It could have been better. I'm sorry, you guys. I'm going to buy a castle in Hungary and wish you the best. Myel, thank you so much for joining. Thank you, we're definitely going to have you back. Thank you, love.