Candace - Charlie's Final Hours. What Else Is Josh Hammer Lying About? | Candace Ep 250
Episode Date: October 8, 2025Josh Hammer says that he and a Rabbi had a long talk with Charlie the night before he died, and for weeks after Charlie's assassination Hammer obsessively accused people of lying, grifting, and of att...empting to destroy Charlie Kirk’s legacy. But what took place in that conversation? 00:00 - Start. 01:26 - Josh Hammer and Charlie's final night. 41:58 - APD for missing UVU footage. 46:50 - Zionist lobby hates me and Tucker Carlson. 59:00 - Moment of brevity from comedian Gianmarco Soresi. 01:05:05 - Comments. Riverbend Ranch Get $20 off your first order with promo code CANDACE at http://www.Riverbendranch.com Comet AI Browser Download Perplexity’s new AI-web browser, Comet, by heading to https://pplx.ai/Candace and let your browser work for you. Plus, right now when you download Comet - you get a month of Rumble Premium for free! Just Thrive Get 20% off your order with promo code CANDACE at https://justthrivehealth.com Home Title Lock Go to https://hometitlelock.com/candace and use promo code CANDACE to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty American Financing NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Nimi Skincare Save 10% on your order with promo code CANDACE10 at http://www.NimiSkincare.com Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. Sorry, we're running late today. I'm starting homeschooling, so still getting adjusted to the new schedule. Where should we begin? Okay, well, Josh Hammer, because that's certainly getting a little more interesting, maybe a bit darker than we had anticipated. Because just 16 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, he mysteriously retweeted a 2013 tweet from Donald Trump calling for public executions. Now, I have tried, and I don't feel that there is any way that I can comment.
confidently explained to you guys why he tweeted that,
least of all, in the context of him having already admitted
that he and a rabbi in Israel had a long talk with Charlie
the night before he died, something he was very proud of.
Also, Dinesh D'Souza has jumped into the mix.
Welcome, Dinesh D'Souza.
He is joining every commentator who hates Candice Owens.
That's nice that he has entered the foray.
He's got some things to say to me.
We're going to discuss it because it's weird.
and I'm also going to explain to you why, more formally, at least, why I decided to activate an effective kill switch.
And I want you guys to pay attention because this is really important.
Welcome back to Candace.
Hoisted by his own partard.
obviously that we use a lot.
And I have this thing
where I always have to go back
and research and figure out
why we use common expressions
because nobody actually thinks
about those things anymore.
Well, this one is pretty obvious.
It refers to when soldiers
would use a petard,
essentially a bucket-shaped explosive device
packed with gunpowder,
effectively a bomb,
to blow up the gates
and wall fortifications of their enemies.
They'd light the fuse
and sometimes
they would be hoisted by
their own bombs. And that's exactly what is happening right now to Josh Hammer for weeks
after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Josh Hammer obsessively and shamelessly accused people
of lying, people of grifting, people of attempting to destroy Charlie Kirk's legacy. Charlie Kirk
was his friend, he claimed rather maniacally that Charlie never once flinched on the topic of
Israel. He died, just loving Israel.
It was like, are you kidding me?
It's all he cared about.
Check out just some of these tweets, by the way.
This is a collage.
We just don't have all day here to gather crazy Josh Hammer tweets, but you get the idea.
There is a repulsive op right now to hijack Charlie Kirk's legacy.
There is a repulsive op right now desecrating Charlie's memory by trying to posthumously convert him to groiperism.
I can't believe there's something known as groporism.
I was given access to this letter a few months ago, and I read it at that time.
Tucker, Candace, and other bad faith actors are lying through their teeth about Charlie and Israel.
Candice Owens and other grifters, you get that back up for a quick second.
Candace Owens and other grifters are trying to posthumously rewrite and hijack the legacy of the great Charlie Kirk to further their patently evil ends.
There has been a repulsive op, op, op.
The reality is simple.
Charlie was a bridge. Like, it's weird that he keeps repeating that sentence. Like I said, maniacal, obsessed. And of course, in the comfort of his own derangement and with the full support of the press and the silence of Charlie's other quote-unquote friends, Josh was really acting the part of a true Pharisee. He was certain that the truth would not rise again. He was so confident he had killed it and that he could himself hide.
Jack the legacy of Charlie Kirk. Except the truth did kind of rise again. It kind of always does
rise again. And the world now knows that Josh Hammer had personal, intimate knowledge that Charlie's
views were changing. He lied about the Hampton's meeting. I've told you the truth from day one.
Seth Dylan and Josh were personally upset with Charlie's defiance against the state of Israel.
Seth Dylan was the more vocal of the two parties in the Hamptons, as I said, in terms of actually
pressing Charlie, but both of them were upset about the way that they saw his viewpoints
shifting. And Tucker was therefore correct at Charlie Kirk's Memorial. It was definitely the
correct analogy when he spoke about these sorts of individuals who plot and lie and think that
they are going to be successful in, well, murdering the truth in the story of Jesus Christ. Take a listen.
Charlie would have loved this, not just because he loved large groups of people, but because
ultimately he was a Christian evangelist. And it actually reminds me of my favorite story
ever. So it was about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking
about the people in power, and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling
the truth about people, and they hate it. And they just go bonkers. They hate it.
and they become obsessed with making him stop.
This guy's got to stop talking.
We've got to shut this guy up.
And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamplit room
with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus
thinking about what do we do
about this guy telling the truth about us.
We must make him stop talking.
And there's always one guy with the bright idea
and I could just hear him say,
I've got an idea, why don't we just kill him?
That'll shut him up.
That'll fix the problem.
it doesn't work that way it doesn't work that way everything is inverted and the beatitudes
tell it i think the most crisply everything is sort of the opposite of what you think it's
going to be that is a fact and it will always be the opposite of what you think it's going to be
when you are attacking people who are telling the truth and the truth is that is now an established
fact like i said that josh hammer knew that charlie kirk's perspectives on israel
were changing. And since that announcement, Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that
Josh Hammer hit send on 16 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. For no apparent reason
at all, he retweeted something that President Donald Trump had sent a full 12 years ago about
public executions. Here it is. Here is that retweet. Trump wrote on April 19, 2013, should be
public execution for all to see. You will end this bull fast. And Josh Hammer just replies and
says, base, you can see. This is, we are in central time, so that's about 9.05 p.m. Eastern time.
Now, what is the justification for this? There might be one. I tried in earnest to at first
rationalize it, right? What could have been going on that Josh Hammer decided to dig through
the 2013 Twitter archives and retweet someone calling for someone.
calling for public execution.
Well, I'll let one of the many Zionist PR agents explain it first.
Ashar Ali, who, like I said, is quite literally paid to do PR for Zionists.
I know this personally.
On the right and on the left, tried to explain it away by kind of lying, I would say.
He tried to claim definitively that Josh was referring to the criminal who horrifically
murdered the Ukrainian refugee, Irina Zerutska, in North Carolina.
That was obviously a big story in the beginning of September.
Yashar Ali wrote this.
Last night, Candice Owens quote tweeted
notorious neo-Nazi Sam Parker
who pointed out that Josh Hammer,
who is Jewish and was a friend of Charlie Kirk's,
elevated a Trump tweet from 2013
the day before which called for public executions.
Candice, of course, would like people to believe
that Josh's quote tweet is suspicious
in the context of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
But Josh was just sharing
what many conservatives were sharing
and stating the day before.
That's because they were,
talking about the horrific murder of Arina Zarutka.
This is where I say that no civilized nation uses the death penalty in parentheses, referring
to his own thoughts.
Now, another user then jumped on that and tried to establish a non-fact that the footage
of Arina's murder was released on that day, on the 9th, and that's why Josh tweeted that.
All of this is factually untrue.
Okay, Arina was murdered on August 22nd.
Her perpetrator was arrested that same day, and the footage was released and trended on X on September 5th.
Josh himself sent multiple tweets regarding the homicide, as everyone did, because like I said, it was trending.
And when he was asked specifically about punishment, criminality, perhaps that her perpetrator should face Josh at no point that I could determine, whether he was on the news, whether he was on his own show or anywhere else,
Did he speak about the death penalty or, you know, a public execution?
Instead, as you will see, and we will show you Josh in his own words,
he spoke about the double standards surrounding the media coverage of her murder.
And really, the topic of criminality more broadly and safety in America,
take a listen to what Josh said.
You know, Gabrielle, I'm a lawyer by training.
And I remember my first year of law school back in 2013 when I was taking criminal law.
This is kind of the beginning of kind of the left's kind of foray into so-called criminal justice reform.
And even back then, there's a lot of chatter among my more liberal classmates about how, you know,
incarceration and in prisons and lock people up, you know, how all of this is just racist.
It's kind of like it is an old kind of symbol of a white patriarchal, colonialist, imperialist society there
and how the ultimate goal is basically to defund the prisons.
And then, you know, if some people are going to commit some violent crimes, you know,
essentially let the chips fall where they may.
Well, you know, this is letting the chips fall where they may.
But most American people have not lost their minds.
Most American people stand where Donald Trump stand is that they want basic, basic safety.
And I don't disagree that we all want basic safety.
I just don't hear him.
And like I said, I've looked for it ever even calling for the death penalty in those days that were leading up.
So I decided to do what I always do rather than say what he definitely meant or what he didn't mean.
I decided to just create a micro timeline of Josh Hammer's tweets, and it gets pretty interesting
on September 9th the day before Charlie Kirk's assassination. This is what Josh Hammer tweeted.
He tweeted a total of nine times on September 9th, and you can gather what was going on at that day
from his tweets. He wakes up at 7.30a6, or rather pushes the first tweet at 7.30am, and he tweets
about a viral Philly's crowd scandal. This is an Eastern standard time, by the way. Right after that,
he tweets a link, the one that I just showed you, to his media appearance about Arena Zarutka,
where he does not call for the death penalty or anything close to the death penalty.
9.23 a.m., he tweets against Tucker Carlson because he has to do that at least twice a day,
or I don't feel like he can get on with his day.
9.29 a.m. he tweets in favor of Israel and throws shade at Trump and Qatar,
and all of this is related to what went on on September 9th, which is that Israel bombed Qatar for no reason,
international law, which they tend to do a lot. But he, of course, was in favor of what they were doing. And so he throws shade at Trump and Trump's relationship with Qatar. Because I guess it would be okay for them to violate international law if Trump wasn't friends with Qatar or something. 11.33 a.m., he tweets against Saudi Arabia. Because they came out and made a statement against what Israel had done. So he tweets against Saudi Arabia. And then at 3 o'clock p.m., he tweets against Tucker Carlson for telling the truth about Israel and 9-11. Again, he tweets.
He has to do that a couple of times a day.
It's part of his ritual.
5.58 p.m.
he tweets about the Hebrew Bible being the basis of Western civilization alongside a speech that he had given.
Tweet a link out.
Again, promoting himself 5.59 p.m.
He tweets a promotion of his media appearance regarding a Supreme Court decision.
And then there's this three-hour break.
He puts his phone down maybe.
Maybe.
maybe this is a three-hour break where he speaks to Charlie Kirk. I don't know, but I know
that he speaks to Charlie Kirk at night. And then at 9.09 p.m., again, we're talking Eastern
and Josh Hammer tweets in favor of public execution. And there's no context that is provided.
So anybody telling you he for sure meant this or he for sure didn't mean this is a liar.
We cannot know that. We cannot know Josh Hammer's thoughts. A couple of things that I want to point out,
Josh is not saying in that tweet that he's calling for the death penalty. People calling for
the death penalty, debating the death penalty is a very common political debate. It's a very
common political talking point. It is absolutely not a typical or a regular political talking
point or debate regarding public executions. We don't talk about that often. It's an exceedingly
specific ask, right, usually reserved to a visceral response to something that you have seen
and in the moment, right? Matt Walsh, actually, when we're prepping the show, I said, I will guarantee
you that when that footage got dropped, which was on September 5th, four days earlier,
Matt Walsh would have tweeted, this person should be publicly executed. And by the way,
he did. He didn't. He said, we can't keep living like this. The only solution is ruthless
punishment, public execution for violent criminals, long prison sentences, hard labor.
This guy had multiple previous arrests. He should have already been serving 30 years in the
labor camp. This is the only way, as our ancestors knew, we've tried compassion and restorative
justice and this is the result. It was inevitable. So Matt Walsh then went on his show and further explained
that already contextualized tweet and he explained how men have a visceral response when you see
somebody being victimized, a woman being victimized in that way that arena was. So we decided for
good measure that we should check to see if maybe it was something regular that Josh Hammer also
spoke about, which is public executions. And I can tell you that it is not something that Josh Hammer
regularly tweets about or discusses the first time that he tweeted about a public execution was back
in 2013. And he said it in reference, I'm sorry, in 2022. And he said it in reference to the Boston
Marathon bombing terrorist account. I'm sorry, the Evalde shooter. The Evalde shooter is apparently
dead, but just as with the Buffalo shooter, this level of pure evil would have been another
ideal time for a public execution. So to be clear, that makes sense, right? He is in the moment and he is
saying, I'm having a visceral reaction to the idea of another school being shot out, being having
another school shooting. And for that reason, I am saying that this would have been an appropriate
scenario for a public execution. Motions are running high. You are visceral. And, um,
You're learning things. You're seeing and you're learning those things in the moment. As I said,
that would make sense in its context. I also want to remind you that Josh Hammer is a lawyer
by training. He was at one point, the editor at large of the Daily Wire, and he is currently
the senior editor at large at Newsweeks. Plus, he hosts his own show. My point that I'm making here
is he knows how to communicate. This is not some random guy on Twitter who doesn't know that if
you haven't tweeted all day about something, you can't just throw out tweets about public
executions without contextualize them, right? He certainly understands you don't just send out a
standalone tweet at 9 o'clock p.m. And everyone's just going to go, what are you referring to?
He knows the public is not going to comprehend what he means outside of him providing some
further context. And I will also add here that it is not particularly helpful that Josh Hammer as an
individual is obsessively angry. He is an incredibly angry little man. You can read through his
tweets. He has openly expressed bigoted and prejudiced opinions against white people. He does not
view himself to be a white person. He views himself to be a separate race, Jewish. That is a fact.
And it wasn't a long time ago. We don't have to go back to 2013 to hear his ideas on that.
Here's a tweet from him in 2019 that he then erased regarding white people. Here's what he
said. Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA. Okay? Just like it's inherent. You're just
in hair. If you're white, you're inherently guilty. You're inherently an anti-Semi. It's just
you're born this way. It's just in your DNA. It's incredible that he said that. And in response,
we were told that he meant it metaphorically, which kind of
Um, metaphor.
Can you run that tweet again?
I do know a little bit about metaphors and similes.
And I'm not feeling, Jew hatred is inherent in European DNA.
How's that for a metaphor, guys, for you?
Because I thought metaphor might be fire hair to describe somebody who's redhead headed.
Oh, no, it's not literally fire.
It's fire, fire red.
No, I don't think a metaphor would be.
be saying explicitly and literally that hating Jews is inherent inside of white people.
I think it's amazing that he's even allowed.
Like, there's just no consequence.
It's like, yeah, well, it are at large in Newsweek?
What are you going to do?
Eh, it's fine.
You can hate white people.
We all know that.
It's fine.
Totally fine.
Anyways, that's what he thinks about you guys, full stop.
And people are maybe perhaps because of that, because of how he regularly treats people
and how he regularly tax people and how vicious he is are not feeling particularly charitable
towards him, especially having been exposed as somebody who lied so audaciously and boldly
and repeatedly and unnecessarily about the pressure that Charlie was under, pressure which
Josh Hammer was a part of applying in the weeks and then in the hours leading up to
Charlie Kirk's death, saddens me that Charlie was stressed and Charlie was worried
and that the very people that were stressing him out and making him have that sense of
anxiety and worry, then you elulogized him and lied about all that. Why lie? That's the part that
the public does not understand. How can we then trust a person that lies in that way? The natural thing
is for us to then wonder, what else is Josh lying about? Would we trust if Josh came out and said
that tweet was definitely about arena? Other people pulled Trump tweets. Some did. Pulled that very
tweet and called for a public execution. Would you trust Josh if he came out and said, I know
I didn't contextualize it, and I know all day I was tweeting about Israel, but that one was about
arena.
Don't forget, he proudly went around, and he promoted to everyone that would listen, that he
spoke to Charlie the night before he died, probably in that three-hour window.
He bragged that he and Rabbi Wolicki had a Zoom call with Charlie.
Why?
because they said Charlie wanted them to help him with his talking points about Israel.
Now, I have to say, Charlie was one of the most skilled debaters ever, like literally ever.
Any person that I have seen actually debating on stage, I learned my debate cues from Charlie Kirk.
So it is very new to me to think that they scheduled this call because he was in need of tips on debating from a rabbi.
over in Israel and Josh Hammer, but let's be real. I have no proof to the contrary because I
wasn't on the Zoom call. And Josh made it clear multiple times that in his last conversation
with Charlie, Charlie above anything else, was really interested in Josh's book. So much so
that in his literal first tweet, after news broke that Charlie had in fact died, Josh manages
to bring up his book. I'm not kidding. Here's his tweet. He writes this. I am.
speechless, devastated, and heartbroken.
We spoke less than 24 hours ago.
Charlie joked how he was going to plug my book
on this very tour.
He was a unique force, a generational leader.
Pray for Charlie's beautiful wife from their young children.
Rest in Peace, Warrior.
And as you saw yesterday, Josh never forgets to plug his book.
He never once forgot to plug his book.
A few days after Charlie's death, he went on JTV,
which is on the global Jewish channel to discuss
that call, that last call with Charlie Further, with a host named Ali, and here is what Josh
says about his book.
We actually did speak for the last time, less than 24 hours before the assassination
happened.
We had a Zoom call, a friend of mine, him, a couple of his producers.
It was a small call.
We were literally talking, above all, about the anti-Israel questions that he expected
to receive on this campus tour.
We were kind of talking him through talking points and strategy and how to deal with these
expected hostile questions and you know you held on my book israel and civilization all he
the last words i think charlie spoke to me where he literally said uh you know josh you know when
the israel question comes up i'm just going to plug your book you know israel and civilization
because i think that that what you write in the book basically is is how i feel as well and
that that ends up being the last time that that we spoke well you heard him it's like charlie's
final wish is for you to buy Josh Hammer's book. I mean, he's like, hey, he literally says
his last thing he said to me actually was like, I'm just going to plug your book out. What he wanted
to do on this tour was just to plug Josh Hammer's book. And it's so sad that he never had
the opportunity to plug Josh Hammer's book. Now, let's keep with this interview because
he's going to be asked more specifically about certain characters in the movement that are
trying to, quote, unquote, hijack Charlie's legacy by telling the truth. And remarkably,
he is going to work. I swear it's going to work in his book again. Take a listen.
precisely as you mentioned there had been people who like Ian Carroll and it pains me to mention her name Candace Owens because I know how close she was and maybe still still what it is to Charlie but at the end of the day she's chosen to hijack his death right now to blame it on Israel I mean it's just so disturbing but then you have the people who are sort of a bit more in the middle maybe I wouldn't even say it in the middle
But they're teetering a bit, the Megan Kelly's and the Michael Knowles and others, kind of in this in-between.
What are you things going on there with them?
Yeah, look, I mean, we can talk about every commentator one by one, but I think it's kind of easier to make a few kind of generalizations, right?
I think a lot of folks are kind of just trying to take their commentary to where they see the perceived momentum,
especially among the younger generation there.
So I think a lot of it is trying to kind of, you know, stick your finger in the way.
wind and try to see, you know, where Gen Z is. And also really, I mean, above all, see kind of just
where the Twitter algorithms are right now. I mean, it's very hard to look at someone like, let's take
Matt Gates, okay? Matt Gates was a former Republican congressman from Florida. Now he hosts a show on
One America News. Matt Gates and I were very friendly for a while, okay? He had me on his show back
in March when my book came out. Ollie, he referred to my book as a battle map to save Western
civilization. It was an extraordinarily kind segment. He was asking very much. He was asking very
very intelligent questions.
He clearly had read the book.
He was engaging with the material in it there.
And a few months later, you know, he's talking about Jewish supremacy, you know, a term
that has kind of like Durstirmer origins and he's had all on all sorts of horrible
guests.
I mean, does someone like that like actually flip that quickly based on like literally
from March to June or July?
No, of course.
I mean, it defies common sense.
It defies reality.
That's obviously not what's happening there.
I think it's just profound cynicism.
It's trying to kind of just play for clip.
play for money and trying to kind of generate some viral clips to appease a small but but very
vocal and very online segments of the American right and of the American internet user base there.
I just love that he doesn't even blink as he goes from promoting his book again to then
accusing people of wanting money. It's just incredible as he's completely grifting off of
Charlie's death by trying to promote his book as like Charlie's Last Wish.
is, it's really amazing. Also, why does Michael Knowles randomly catch astray? Like,
what's Michael Knowles been up to that he's like now on their list? Uh, Michael Knowles,
Megan Kelly, they're listing them. That's coming next. Okay. Inevitably, it comes inward.
And I just want to be clear in case, um, what he's saying is not registering to you correctly.
So white men, to the extent that you are willing to get out there and work to serve, um,
really his book, to sell his book, to serve his interests, which are very clearly Israel, you're cool.
You know, no one's going to call you a semi. Everything can be cool. To the extent that you, I don't know, maybe don't want to do that, you will be ruined.
Matt Gates, what was he thinking? It's crazy. Like, what on earth was Matt Gates thinking? It was great when he was out there pitching Josh Hammer's book. And now he can't be saved.
But then, and this is where it gets important, Josh Hammer,
gets even more specific addressing the question if Charlie was beginning to crack on his support
for Israel.
Let's not forget, we already know the answer to this is yes.
So looking at this hindsight 2020 really is something.
Take a listen.
If he is what, or if he was going in the direction that Candice Owens and others say he was going in,
you know, very, very simple point.
Would he have had on me and our friend Rabbi,
Pesak Wuliki, literally the night before his death, to spend an entire hour talking about how to
respond to anti-Israel talking points. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. It literally simply does
not make sense. His heart was absolutely in the right place. Again, he was trying to navigate
some very choppy waters, though. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It really doesn't make sense.
Charlie was just on the phone looking for talking points, trying to navigate some choppy waters with
how he was going to address these kids that had some questions.
about Israel. He didn't, he was unflinching, but he gratefully had Josh Hammer's book and wanted to go
through it and make sure that he remembered everything. Now, this is probably also a great time
referring to that little conference call they had, whatever was a Zoom call to tell you that that
rabbi, Rabbi Willicki, was also on the now infamous text chain. So this means that both of those
individuals knew exactly where Charlie was at on the topic of Israel and how he felt leading up to
that moment of his death. And again, like I said, two weeks before that in the Hamptons,
they knew where he was at. Tucker Carlson told you the truth on his stance on Bibi Netanyahu.
Nobody wants to address or answer the question of whether or not when Bibi Netanyahu invited him to Israel.
What the context was of that? Do you think that guy who's fighting a 140,000 front war,
because he keeps picking fights and pretending he's a victim, really just has time to pick up the phone and shoot the breeze with Charlie Kirk,
whose number, according to the released letter
he didn't even have in May.
So what's he calling him about?
They obviously weren't close
if he didn't have his number, okay?
So what's he calling Charlie about?
Why is he inviting Charlie to Israel
two weeks before he dies, right?
Nobody will address that Charlie said no.
He did.
He said no.
He didn't flinching.
He wasn't even flinching.
He was just busy and couldn't make it out to Israel
or something.
Now, I will say that regarding Rabbi Williki,
I think he has more of a conscience and soul than Josh Hammer.
I haven't seen him promoting his book.
He doesn't lie as audaciously and as repeatedly
and tweets nearly as neurotically as Josh Hammer does.
But I want you listen to what he had to say when asked
whether or not Charlie was turning on Israel.
Give us our hindsight 2020, Rabbi Wolicki.
The wild conspiracy theories online on social media,
claiming that Israel and the Mossad are behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk because he was turning
on Israel. Now, you spoke to him just hours before his death. Did you feel that that was the case
that he was in fact turning on Israel? Look, Lidar, I was in touch with Charlie on an almost
daily basis for months. And he certainly had some disagreements with Israeli policy. And he
criticize Israel where he felt appropriate. He sometimes believed things like a lot of people do
that are out there in the media. And that was really the substance of our relationship was checking
on things and finding out the truth. But that doesn't mean that he was immune to the negative
sentiments that were out there. And there were a lot of people around him in the America First
movement who were actively working on him to try to get him to turn on Israel. But the real
answer to your question is the meeting that I had with him. And the entire
purpose of the meeting, called by Charlie, Charlie called this meeting, and it was on our
schedule for weeks, was that he was going out on a campus tour. Utah was the first stop on his new
campus tour. And what a lot of people in Israel do not realize, or in the pro-Israel community,
do not realize is that between 40 and 50 percent, of all of the questions and challenges that he
would get on these campus tours were usually about Israel, because the campuses, of course,
have a lot of anti-Israel sentiment, and Charlie was known as a supporter of Israel. So he ended up
being in a position where he was defending Israel all the time. And it drove him crazy because he wanted
to talk about America, but he was defending Israel all the time. So in preparation for this new
campus tour, he called a meeting of a few people that he trusted to talk about Israel issues
and to anticipate the questions that he would be getting, the challenges that he would be getting
on this campus tour, and to make sure that he had the truth and that he could form me
late answers that he was comfortable with. If Charlie had turned on Israel, why would he even bother
with a meeting like that? Why would he call a meeting with a few pro-Israel friends of his
to talk through Israel issues to make sure that his facts were straight and his talking points
were straight so that he could defend Israel better? If he was turning on Israel, he would have
had Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson in the meeting planning to throw Israel under the bus.
The entire premise of the meeting refutes that theory.
How are you feeling about that?
Now that you know that Tarley actually mentioned both Tucker and Candace 48 hours earlier,
as they were trying to do what they always do,
which is control who he's allowed to speak to,
control who I was allowed to speak to back when I was within the Zionist movement
and waking up and realizing something was dangerously wrong
when they started to try to control my voice.
it's unbelievable. It's really unbelievable to reflect on that. Now, I will say again, Rabbi Willicki, more of a soul. He's at least acknowledging that something was going on, right? I don't think he would have been comfortable pulling the jaw. He was great. It was amazing by my book. He loved every second. He's amazing. Oh, my God. He just wished he could have gone over. The one thing that hurt Charlie Kirk the most was that he would never be able to wear an IDF uniform. He just wanted to go fight for Israel. That's kind of the vibes that they were trying to put out there. At least Rabbi Willicki is like,
He was under some pressure, okay?
He's saying it softly, but he's like,
he was kind of needing to have a conversation
to say he's not comfortable answering these questions anymore
because it doesn't feel this way anymore.
He realizes something is wrong.
I told you he was particularly worried
that Israel was infringing upon speech in America.
I have text messages to that effect, okay?
So there's no undoing that.
He was aware that they had lost a PR war
and it was weighing on him
that he was seen as Rabbi Willicki,
accurately states as this person who just defend Israel, especially when what they are doing
is so plainly immoral. It was starting to fracture people's viewpoints of Charlie. Right? And
Charlie, like I said, when he got into this, like when I got into this, we were genuinely pro-Israel.
There was nothing. There was not payment that was coming in. Was I ignorant? Yes. I've owned that
a thousand times. I thought it's not relevant topic. And it seems makes sense. You know,
the low-hanging arguments make sense. Why can't they have?
every own country, whatever.
I focus as BLM.
He was always genuine.
And I think, as I've said, he was genuinely over it towards the end because of Jewish behavior.
His words, not mine, leaning into the stereotypes of Jewish behavior.
Okay?
You want to be bullied.
He was being bullied.
They knew that he was being bullied.
And yet, they want us to believe that less than 48 hours before he died, Charlie and
announces that he announces that he has no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of
Jewish donors and their behavior living up to these stereotypes. And despite this frustration,
48 hours earlier, the following day, he decided to have that smaller audience with two
Jewish individuals who were on that chat and were aware that he was angry. But this conversation
was not going to be a follow-up or in relation to what he had just expressed hours earlier to them
both, but rather, he was just like a super fan of Josh's book. He's like, gosh, this is
amazing. This book is amazing. I want to get the phone with the author. What a wonderful opportunity
to speak to the author. I love this. Tell me to come up with this idea for the book. I want to
hear more. And also, I'd like to strategize on how to deal with the questions that are coming
at me using and promoting your book. That's what Josh wants us to believe at least, right? And then
were supposed to believe that he had that dramatic switch. So he went from, I'm done, to like,
hey, love you. How can I be of more service to you? And then in that exact same day,
he was texting people saying, they are going to kill me. I'm the same day that he's on this
Zoom call, this fact, this night Zoom call, as Josh says it was at night, or the New York Post
reported, I think, right, that it was at night. That at the same,
time, that same day, he's texting people saying, they are going to kill me. And we are supposed
to deduce from this that by they, what he really meant was Tyler Robinson. He meant
they, them, duh, like a non-binary person or a trans person, they were going to kill him. That was
what he had a feeling about. Everything else is just completely irrelevant. He, he,
just had a sense, a premonition
that a trans person
was going to get him. Do you believe that?
Do you buy any of that?
And I want to say this. I was speaking to somebody earlier
about how interesting it is
that none of us, and when I'm saying
none of us, I'm talking about Tucker Carlson,
Megan Kelly, myself, when we were
speaking honestly and accurately
about what Charlie was going through
and how he was being bullied and how he was under pressure
and Megget even spoke about it herself, by the way,
Megan, you should probably tell people who those individuals are.
We never once said that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
I've never said that because on the basis of the facts that you guys are following on the show,
I don't have any evidence of that.
It doesn't serve me to make up a narrative that I can't prove, right?
Why would I say that?
What I will say is that I am uncomfortable with how many lies people that support Israel
have been telling in the wake of his death.
That has been almost the only compelling argument that Israel had anything to do with it is the way they're acting right now.
Like Bibi Net and Yahoo, the propaganda, the lies, the coming after Canada stones.
None of this was necessary.
Nobody thought when this first happened, this is 100% Israel.
100%.
It's happened in Mormon country.
How come there were no Mormon people, no Mormon presidents coming out and saying, I just want to be clear that we didn't kill Charlie Kirk.
24 hours after he died
because that's what Beebe did.
How come there were no Mormon people
that started Operation Mormon pastor or president
feeling the need to baselessly attack me?
I was actually on the Mormons.
I've been on the show calling them out by name
saying who was doing what.
Mormons were not offended by that at all
because they want to know
if somebody is corrupt
and had something to do with this.
They want to know if their church was involved in this.
That's a normal response.
Not to say we, it definitely
wasn't us, but rather to say, I'm on this journey, I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk
too, and I'm therefore going to support Candace's efforts to find out.
Exact opposite of what Israel is doing, right? That is the one disturbing fact about people that
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promo code Candace at checkout. Okay. First, I want to put out, I think Cops called an APB.
What does it actually stand for, Mark? I'm not a all points bulletin. See, you're never too old to
learn something. And of course, Mark knew that instantly. All points bulletin. Mark has got a lot of
random facts about every subject up there in his brain. We're not really sure why. First
order of business, I got to put out this all points bulletin.
I'm looking for footage on UVU campus, some particular footage from people that were there that day.
And I want to be real specific here so we don't clog up the inbox because obviously when you send footage to bigger file.
I'm looking for video footage of any older males, okay, any older males that day that have long hair that was up in a ponytail or a bun.
So if you're a UVU student or you know someone who was UVU student, please send this around and ask people to do.
send me their footage. I just want to see footage of men that have their long hair, enough
hair that it's up in a ponytail or a bun. There is, of course, a specific reason why I'm asking
for that. Also, there, in me scouring the earth for every piece of footage, there's an almost
incomprehensible lack of footage that is coming from the left side of Charlie, meaning if Charlie
is facing the crowd, it would be his left side. So we have gone ahead and highlighted for you,
where I am looking for footage from, okay? I can't find footage from this section. Chris,
if you could go back to that first one again too. This section right here. If you were sitting
here or go to the next one, all on the side, when the shots rang out or just before,
maybe in the 10 minutes before so I can see who was around or what happened when those shots
rang out. It is weird. There's just a, it's like a black hole. Can not get footage. I
of that angle from the front, you're probably going, well, doesn't turning point have that
footage? Well, turning point, as we have learned, is not going to show anybody, anything in 4K
or in 5K, I think because that would be helpful or something. So we have to do it this way,
the organic way, which takes much more time. I do want to say this as well. You can send
that, by the way, to tips at candace-oens.com. We also have more tips.
tips at candace owens.com. And please just put in the subject line footage at UVU. That would be very
easy. It would help us sort things. We've kind of been cleaning up the inbox. Again, more tips at
canisowens.com or tips at candace owens.com. You know, somebody I was speaking to earlier today
was speaking about, you know, the anxiety that's turning point is going through. I do want to
say this first and foremost because I felt this way at previous companies, they are amazing
people that work at Turning Point USA, the overwhelming majority of them. And that's what sucks
when corporate, people up the top, take a direction, those people get no say, right? This
investigation is being assisted by Turning Point USA. Not the execs, but Turning Point people on the
ground, people that they don't even think about, smaller employees. Like, they deeply care.
about what has happened. They deeply care about finding answers regarding what happened to Charlie
Kirk. And so we never want to paint a broad picture about this is turning point. The top
is most certainly not the bottom. And somebody was saying, you know, what if this, what you're doing
destroys Turning Point USA? And I said, you know what? This is what I always say. If the truth
is capable of destroying your company, the truth,
then does your company deserve to exist?
You go that.
If I'm like, if people learn the truth
about how Candice Owens treats her employees,
Candice Owens isn't going to have a career.
If people learn the truth about what Candice Owens does
in the weekends, it will destroy her career.
Like, that probably means that you're not a good person
or you're not a good company if the truth is a threat
you. I've heard this argument over and over. I've never been fearful. And obviously I'm kind of
constantly going through a public x-ray, a public x-ray of my life, people examine me. I'm never
fearful because I think I'm a decent person, right? I live honorably. Do I make mistakes? Yes.
I own my mistakes immediately. And I will be very quick to apologize to people when I get things
wrong. But I'm not an evil person. Nowhere near an evil person. And I always try to be honest.
And so do not concern yourselves with people that feel threatened by truth, right?
That's ridiculous.
Anyway, speaking of which, obviously, you can see right now the Zionist lobby hates me
and Tucker Carlson.
It is like nothing anybody has ever seen in their lives.
This past year, they've really upped the ante on trying to destroy me and Tucker Carlson.
The hatred is deep.
It's sinister.
It's evil.
and they have sent virtually every foot soldier that they have available to attack us repeatedly, right?
Attack us repeatedly.
Make videos.
People, it's confusing.
What is it?
Is she lying?
Why is she saying this?
Is this the right time?
It's actually getting quite boring, I think.
It's a little boring.
I would almost describe their strategy as Blitzkrieg.
I don't want to be accused of being a Nazi or using these two German words, Blitzkrieg.
But it has been something like a bombardment and this morning they sent out Dinesh D'Souza after me.
It's very very convincing, by the way.
He sent out a tweet to convince people they shouldn't watch me.
He said, I can't comment on Candace because it's quite obviously a freak show.
It's like driving on the highway and seeing a farmer having sex with a sheep.
You don't want to look, but you can't look away either.
The problems begin when you try to analyze it.
It is what it is.
And I love that, Yashar Ali replies and says, this is what I mean.
These are the people who are supposed to be combating Candace Owens.
Instead, they tweet stuff like this.
Yeah, hi, Dinesh, kind of weird, man.
We cannot relate.
I got to tell you, if I ever was in this awful scenario where I saw a farmer trying to have sex with the sheep,
I feel very much that I could not only look away, but I could call the police, okay?
So if that's kind of what you're selling, you know how like when you can't look away
from bestiality?
Dinesh, you want to know your opinion on me?
Not what's on your laptop and how they maybe blackmailed you, okay?
That's not what we're interested in, Dinesh D'Souza.
And he's like, well, I meant that as a joke.
You didn't mean as a joke.
You went it seriously.
And it was weird.
It got weird very quickly.
And we learned more about you than we learned about me.
That seems to be the circumstance.
It's like a complete boomerang.
But yeah, this is they're really.
really starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel and finding people that heard some weird
stuff. So I would say, I think to Nesha Susa, if he thought that that was going to be relatable
and convinced people, yeah, I totally relate. Yeah, it's like, I just can't look away from that
stuff when you see it. I, that did not happen. That did not happen. Now, because they are seriously
increasing and being, I would almost say erratic in their behavior, obsessive, erratic,
neurotic, there is a real risk here, right? I do not accept, and you do guys, that Charlie Kirk
lost his life because he really pissed off the trans lobby. It terrifies me to think that on the
day that Charlie died, I got multiple phone calls from people who said that me and Tucker should
lay low because we're also on the list. And they never told us who specifically told them,
that, by the way. Now I'm wondering why they never told us who specifically told them that.
I called Tucker. I'm like, I'm hearing. Are you hearing the same thing? I'm hearing up.
They're saying that we're next. And now I go, was that supposed to be a threat to me and Tucker?
To have us watch the public execution of a friend of ours and then to call us and to say,
you should lay low for a little bit? Because you guys were hearing that you guys are on a list.
Was that just supposed to be a threat? Because why wouldn't you be more forthcoming with exactly who you
heard that from. And I said, I remember saying, I was like, did the feds say this? Who said this
specifically? Because why aren't they calling me and Tucker? Why are, why am I calling Tucker and
telling him about this? And I did. He will tell you that. David Charlie Kirk was shot.
This really happened. And I'm coming out of the grief stage and realizing I think that was an element
of this to, to send a signal to shoot him in the throat, right? To say, we took out his voice and we will
take yours out to. And that's terrifying and that's real. And these people that we are fighting
are dangerous, okay? Do not underestimate them. They are dangerous and they are haughty and they are
growing increasingly desperate and panicked people that are evil in this way are not people
that you want to play with, right? People are nervous. Everyone is feeling it. And that's why I
decided that I don't know what's going to happen. Okay. I don't know how many days.
I have on this planet,
I do know what I'm fighting for,
and I do know that this life is not it.
It's not.
I'm telling you guys, it's not.
The people that want you to believe that it is,
people that pulled you away from your faith
in the first place,
as I'm trying to demonstrate to you,
did it because they knew
they could further enslave you.
They want you to be fearful of death.
They want you to think it's it.
They want you to think it's lights out,
and then everything is over
and that you are not a soul, right?
Because then they can get you to do things.
to guard what you have in this world.
Follow their rules, to do things that you know are wrong because you need the money.
It indoctrines you into their matrix.
What I wanted to do, as I discussed yesterday, and which got picked up, was to create a kill switch, right?
To realize that Kanye was kind of right.
Never too late to say that Kanye was right.
Kanye said that in order to be free, you had to violate these contracts.
you had to recognize that your voice is being controlled.
And Kanye did just that.
It was really an act of bravery to free himself.
But I have no doubt that the same people that were torturing Kanye,
the same people that were torturing Charlie Kirk,
Kanye died today would be the first to eulogizer.
I feel that.
And Drew, I feel that.
And I think it's important to share that information
as Kanye sent me all the messages,
people who were threatening him.
I have them all to information share
with Max Blumenthal,
with people, village,
I mean, people all over the place
to send a package
and say, if anything happens to me
and it looks suspicious,
release it all.
You know?
It's not even about having
an opposite and equal reaction.
I want it to be an unequal reaction.
I want it to be a mistake
because people,
it catalyzes,
people waking up
and learning
exactly how this matrix works.
And Alex Jones,
I brought this up on his show,
my kill switch,
here's what he had to say.
Boy, does she lay the traps for him.
She comes out and says, yeah, Charlie was calling me,
wanting me out of his events again and all the rest of it.
And he was also really concerned about the Israel lobby coming after him.
And they said, you're a liar.
Charlie didn't like you.
Charlie didn't like you.
Charlie didn't call you.
He didn't text you.
And so she let him say that for a few weeks and then released it.
the text and then she said yeah he was really upset with the israel lobby and said he was
breaking with them entirely he wouldn't be bullied by them in the weeks before he was killed they said
you're a liar that's not true so she released those two days ago now she says she has the proof
and it's text messages that he feared for his life in the two days and the day before he was
killed and predictably that they're already saying it she's she's a liar
And then she's going to release those.
And she's also sent out the dead man switch,
just like James O'Keefe did to myself and a few others
right before he released his stuff on Prince Andrew,
which is dangerous, by the way,
proving that he indeed raped the girls and cover it up.
People are like, we already know that.
How's that daring?
Oh, you're going to release the total proof
on the King of England's brother?
Yeah, that's dangerous.
So those of you say,
he'll keep doesn't risk his life
and all the stuff he's been through
and been arrested and indicted and raided and raided.
Try putting on his shoes for a while
before you sit around and say that he didn't do anything.
Man's a champion.
But the point is that this is a real dead man switch.
She has sent out to the Tate brothers,
Dave Smith, Max Blumenthalter Carlson,
and others.
Well, I'm trying to get her on for weeks.
I'm a little bummed out she didn't send to me.
because I'd like to stand with her, but we do stand with her.
So they're already out saying she's a liar.
She's going to release that.
Now, this doesn't prove Israel killed him or a lobby around that.
Because I've seen no evidence.
They said in security detail, was Israeli?
They weren't.
It was just the first knee-jerk reaction.
I said, you can certainly say Israel's a suspect, but I said, I didn't see proof.
We need to figure out the ballistics and who really shot him and all that before we then
you know, start saying, okay, motive.
I mean, you can always look at motive,
but first, with the forensic situation,
are they covering it up?
What's the ballistics?
That's just where I am.
I'm not going to just say something
because people think it.
But when she releases this,
she's got it,
make no mistake,
just like she keeps bringing the goods,
and she just sets the hook with the worm on it,
or puts the mousetrap out with the cheese on it,
and they come out,
say you're a liar, she goes, boom, you're a liar, bump, you're a liar, boom, you're a liar, boom, you're a liar, boom, bam.
So, and she'll let them, you know, for a week or so kind of stew and say she's a liar, and then she'll just release it.
And then what she's saying is, you kill me, it doesn't matter, it's coming out.
And the word is, he specifically thought Israel was going to kill him.
even when Michael Savage for a few months ago said
Netanyahu needs to go on my show
during the break he goes man I hope Mossad doesn't kill me
Cruz saw it on the feed he didn't say it was off record
he was during the break
so there are a lot of groups who want Charlie killed
he was defeating the Democrats with TPUSA got over
two and a half million people to vote conservatively for Trump
was moving the needle big time
more than anybody with young people on colleges.
So I see them as the motive, and they said we want Charlie dead.
They said, you know, they celebrated when he was dead.
He had like six Trantifa, say, Charlie would be dead tomorrow.
Then they said, see, we told you.
And that was in the town.
So, you know, we got Trantifa, the Trani Antifa,
running around and engaged in all sorts of violence everywhere.
So I was like, okay, yeah, I mean, that fits.
So you get the picture. I mean, I think, and he goes on to explain how we all feel, which is like genuinely we had no proof and no rhyme or reason to think or suspect Israel whatsoever. And it's really just been this insane behavior of covering up and lying that makes us question things. That's the reality. And by the way, questioning things doesn't mean that we have any proof that that happened, which is why we've been actually reticent to say that.
But they're not acting right.
And gut means something.
They're not acting right.
None of them are acting right.
That's not just Turning Point USA execs.
And I've tried to explain it away in my head a thousand times.
Oh, well, you know, everyone's great.
Well, whatever, grieving and give them time.
And then it just got to a place where I said, you know,
this feels like something else.
I don't know why they're telling little lies.
And little lies only exists to cover up.
bigger lies. Anyways, you guys, all of that I also do want to add here, show you a clip before we get
into some of your comments that it's also very good to not extend to everyone that is Jewish,
the viewpoints of this very radical sect that has a lot of power in America. People like
Josh Hammer don't get fire when they explicitly express that, you know, they hate white people,
whatever. That's like, okay, on your resume. That's not the people you know this that you went to
school with. Like, I grew up around the Dave Smiths of the world, right? And I always say I'm
grateful that I did because when you engage into politics, what you see is so ugly that you just
go, oh my gosh, like coming up, coming into stereotypes, you're living up every stereotype. But what
you're seeing is the stranglehold of APEC. It is a political organization. And I always say,
if you look at any lobby in D.C., it'll make you hate someone, right? Pharmaceutical lobby will make you
hate the pharmaceutical companies. The Jewish lobby will make you hate Jews.
The Black Caucus will make you hate black people.
And so people that go to D.C. are incredibly corrupt.
Money rules them.
And they become powerful.
Power corrupts.
Absolutely.
It's just good to remember that.
And I found myself wanting to show you this joke.
This is a comedian John Marco, Sirezi, who is Jewish.
And just taking, he's making fun.
This is what comedians do.
Making fun of himself.
Makes everybody feel better.
Just remember that there are people.
people that are not like Josh Hammer.
That's kind of the point I want to get across.
Listen to this very funny joke by John Marco Soresi.
I celebrated most of the major Jewish holidays growing up.
Passover was my favorite because you get to read it at the table.
And then that's the story where the Jews, we were enslaved by the Pharaoh.
And then Moses made the plagues happen.
And then we escaped and we crossed the desert for 40 years.
I liked it because it made Jews seem cool.
But that was also kind of confusing because I was like, okay,
how did we go from crossing the desert to now,
being known as generally frail?
And I didn't know, I didn't understand
until one day I went on vacation to Miami
with my very Jewish girlfriend,
and the moment we got to the beach, she was like,
it's like a desert out here.
And I was like, oh my God!
What if Jews have been exaggerating this entire fucking time?
We got stuck in traffic on the way there.
My girlfriend was like, let my people go.
The beach was a little crowded.
She said, there's like six million people here.
Yeah, you got it.
That's fantastic.
It's funny.
And it's good to remind yourself that politics is,
is serious all the time, but most of the people do not behave like psychopaths, and they're very funny and can make fun of themselves.
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Are you giving Josh Hammer a charitable read?
Do you think that he was inspired because there were people that were bringing up that old tweet?
They always pull it.
They always say, there's a Trump tweet for everything.
and then people will pass it around for certain situations.
Do you think that that is what he was doing in the context of what was going on that day,
which was really the focus of his tweets seemed to be talking about Israel, as always,
and going after Qatar and Tucker Carlson, as always.
What are you guys thinking?
Corey Henry, thank you for that donation.
Hey, sister from another mother, hire more security.
I fear for you now.
Please stay safe.
Prayers for you and yours.
You are getting close.
The phone call was them putting pressure.
on him. Wow, just wow. Corey, I will tell you, Charlie owned the security company.
So that security company you see that's around him, he owned it. He actually outright purchased
a security company. And it didn't matter. And they didn't do anything. It clearly wasn't act of
vanity. They should never be allowed to work again because why would you not have, I mean,
he's a sitting duck. The amount that he was paying for that security for them to not check rooftops,
You could have someone actually requiring that you have access to rooftops.
You could have one of your guys on a rooftop.
Wouldn't that be a good idea?
I don't know.
I just, I don't understand it.
Kelly Gibbs writes, my Catholic bestie and I keep you in our prayers.
Thank you, Kelly, for this gift.
Rosary and divine mercy, I pray that our Lord and Lady protect you and your family give you
wisdom and safeguard the pearl of great price.
The faith passed down from the apostles.
Thank you so much.
It's such a sweet comment.
Jose Cruz writes, Candice, I love you so much.
May God bless you.
Can you lightly please, don't stop.
a lot of love from Mexico. I'm not associated with Turning Point USA and I'm not a liberal.
Please don't tear apart Turning Point USA because we need a movement for the youth.
Please tread lightly. Make sure you have all the facts because you are an important voice.
Any youth movement must be based in truth. And like I said, Turning Point USA has fantastic people
that worked and signed up to work for that company and dedicated their time with that company,
whether even volunteers, people on college campuses, because they believed in truth and they knew
they were getting it from Charlie. Right now, we are at a point.
point. And I think John and Arena Mappen in that beautiful letter they wrote yesterday said it way more
eloquently than I ever could, which is if you actually continue the legacy of Charlie, it means
continuing to fight for truth. And to the extent that they do that fantastic, they will have an ally in me.
I never attacked Turning Point USA because it came from Turning Point USA. And I saw what it took to build
that company because I was a part of building that company. But to the extent that we feel that they
become so corporate that they're not answering our questions or making us feel ashamed for
asking these questions or just, like, feeling like they don't care about getting to truth.
I think it was very sloppy what Tyler Boyer did on X. He was accusatory. He called people names.
To that extent, they won't survive. That is just a reality. I can't fix that, right? People will
pick up on that. They will pick up on what feels like treachery. It will feel to them like a betrayal
to Charlie Kirk's legacy. Because that's how it feels to me, right? We're all feeling it together.
That's the point. And so we all.
offer this as a course correction for them. I want to believe that they're just grieving in a weird
way, that they have a ton of things on their plates. Maybe they're fearful for their own lives.
I don't know. But if that were the truth, they could still get the truth out to other people.
And that is something I want you to know that Charlie was remarkable at. And that's why I always
offended Charlie, never took the bait on people saying he's this, he's this. Charlie was very good
at knowing he's the guy they'll get in the room. He was happy to schmooze. He was a perfect diplomat and
politician and then he would call and he'd call like Tucker or me and say you hit this you go hard
you do this I mean he was as someone put it put in today he was a maestro he really was he's like
that's the drum you know so we're going to need the bass you're going to need to be the strings
I'm going to play this and we are we're going to have a symphony they're not working with the
fighters it feels like they're working with the feds they've said explicitly they're working
with the fed so I don't know what to make of that but I hear you I hear you and I hear you and
I feel the same way. I want Turning Point USA to survive, but I want them to be truthful first.
Evie, right? Thank you for that donation, Evie. It's giving Joey from friends. Do they know that we know,
no, no? Amazing work has always much love and support from Australia. And if anything, God forbid,
happened to you, I promise we would all ride at dawn. Thank you. I know that you guys would all over
the world. And I know that you would know, but you would know, no, no. You know what I may? Like,
we would know what happened.
So, there we go.
Angela writes, follow the money, it never lies.
Christ is king, team Candice.
Thank you, Angela.
M.J. Ramon writes,
that's what's done in the dark.
We'll be exposed in the light.
Absolutely, it is biblical.
Angela Lewis writes, Mormon here.
We love you, Candace.
We just want truth, and we are praying for you constantly.
Yes, I do want to say, shout out to the Mormon community
for never accusing me of being anti-Uta, Utah,
anti-Morm, I don't know what, anti-Latter-day Saints.
Sorry, I know nothing about your faith.
but you have been assisting
and that's been amazing
and you want to know
like I want to know
like we all want to know
Kian Urb writes
I realized something beautiful
Charlie wanted you on stage
Amfest they tried to stop him
but in doing so
he made sure that you had an even bigger stage
he knew pulling back the veil
on the current spiritual warfare
needed to be shown by you
on a global stage
rest in peace Charlie
I feel that way
I do I feel like everything that happened
and that's why I say
I was always like his big sister
like it happened to me first
and it was very hurtful
it was hard, and Charlie, it was hurtful for him because you believe they're your friends.
Like, I believed that. I believed they wanted my, I just took it. I wanted my, I just took it.
I wanted me to retweet him Max Blumenthal, and they made me think I was like the worst human.
And I took them at their word before I realized that it was much more sinister.
And I'm grateful thus far that I did not pay any greater cost than then destroying my reputation in my name and trying to get me canceled everywhere.
Dennis Domian writes in times where deception grows, truth tellers.
matter most. Thank you, Candace, your courage gives hope.
Greetings from Croatia, Christ is King.
I'll tell you a story. I used to live in Croatia for a couple of months, about three months,
working on a wedding in Dubrovnik. Josie Ells writes, God bless you. We are rooting for you from
Australia. I hope you're rooting for me to get into Australia. By uncovering the flaws in the
U.S., you've opened our eyes to the demonism that we are under in our own government
too. I can't wait for them to approve your visa so that we can show you some Aussie love.
Even that, you know, it's up to the Supreme Court or the High Court of Australia. And if it happens,
even that was meant to be because I still can't believe that I'm like banned from I got banned from
a country like what am I doing that my country I wasn't even to speak about Israel like nothing and yet
the Zionist lobby rose up and like she can't speak I was going to speak about homeschooling and
children and my backstory and race issues and they were like you can't come in okay but you can still
download my podcast on Spotify I don't I don't understand Henry Love writes to spiritual war thank
you for being one of the Warriors of Light thank you Henry Rachel writer writes I owe an apology
Gannis, as a former dem, I am ashamed to admit that I've said some awful things about you.
Holy and warranted that I deeply regret.
You're a brilliant, honest voice in a choir of crooks and liars.
We don't deserve you.
God bless.
You know, Rachel, I'll apologize back because I was also partially blinded and I thought that
it was just the left.
You know, I was taking that low-hanging fruit of us warring against each other.
And I've realized now, like, no, we're all actually fighting real evil.
And we're going to disagree along the way.
You know, I don't think you trans your children.
I'm against it.
I'm very against it.
but I also am more interested in where all of these ideologies are coming from.
I'm more interested in the war against family.
I'm more interested in waking everybody up by actually being more charitable in our interpretations
of one another and what motivates us and less charitable to the government, right?
Because they know exactly what they're doing.
And that's the real risk.
That is the real threat to the government is left and the right actually uniting.
In fact, they were like angry when they were randomly, you know, they've just been treating Megan Kelly like a battered wife.
I don't know.
I say something.
She gets beat.
It's weird. But during that course of that, Constantine Kissing, when he was like, you need to make a statement against Candace. And Tucker, somebody else was saying to her, Candace doesn't even hate the left anymore. Like, that was supposed to be a convincing argument for Megan to trash me, like really trying to get us exist in that left, right paradigm, and it only serves them at the top. So I hope more of this, more realizing and more coming together on the stuff that we can agree on. Miracle media, lastly, writes Candace, as a Christian, you have the authority.
to fight any strife that comes your way.
Recite and memorize Psalms 91, 123,
and I guarantee God's angels will protect your footsteps,
your family from these evildoers.
They are protection scriptures.
I thank you so much for saying that,
and we pray every day, we really do.
But everything is in God's control.
And we, I feel, are in a great period of revelation,
and that is why we are also in a period of anxiety,
because with that, you know,
the demons commit further to their demonology,
and we therefore have to commit more to truth.
And yeah, that's basically all that I want to say today.
You guys, I have some bad news here at the very end.
I am going to take next week off.
I'm going to take about 10 days off, actually.
I'll give you more details about that tomorrow.
But, you know, I just feel like I need to, I'm arriving at the acceptance phase.
I will say the stages of grief is very real.
And I just kind of want to take a little bit of time to really just kind of mourn Charlie
in my own personal capacity and just kind of recognize. I'm never going to see him again.
I'm never going to talk to him again. And to say, kind of buy in my own way and take a break in a breather.
And so nothing bad is happening to me. I will still be sending an occasional Instagram wave so that you guys know that I'm fine.
But I wanted to let you know a heads up. What's going on there. Anyways, you would like to support our show.
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us in prison when Laura Lumer sends us for writing CIA in parody. And it's a parody because we don't
want to be in the CIA. We think there's a lot of corruption there actually. I'm hoping one day my team
will let me have the green hat. They never sent it to me. So hopefully if you know someone,
somebody get me that green CIA hat because it's actually people are tagging me in and I don't have
it. And it's really nice. Other than that, you guys, thank you so much for your support and we'll see
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