Candace - Chicago’s Homecoming: Ye Returns To The Stage. Charlie Kirk’s One Year Approaches… | Ep 384

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

Ye puts on a show for the ages in Chicago, Erika Kirk pens a New York Times op-ed, and Blake Neff gets mad at me for taking vacations and asking questions from day 1. 00:00 - Start. 01:30 - Highlights from Ye's Chicago Homecoming. 09:33 - Why Ye's story matters. 32:57 - Blake Neff is jealous of my family vacation. 36:33 - A strange thing happened in the hospital lobby on 9/10. 40:40 - Erika Kirk publishes a shallow op-ed in the New York Times. 52:40 - Comments. PreBorn​​​! ​ To donate, dial #250 and say they keyword “BABY" or by visiting https://preborn.com/candace The Wellness Company​ Be prepared before you need it. Get your Medical Emergency Kit. Visit https://www.twc.health/CANDACE and use code CANDACE to Save $45 Off + Free Shipping. USA Residents Only 🇺🇸 Beekeeper's Naturals​ ​ Get 20% off your order with promo code CANDACE at http://www.Beekeepersnaturals.com/Candace Ethos​ ​ Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/CANDACE. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. Keet​ ​​​​​​​​​​​​ Visit http://keet.io/candaceowens - Download it free, invite one person you trust, and start a conversation that belongs to you. American Financing​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99. Candace Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ClipsCandaceOwens Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. I hope everyone enjoyed the long weekend. You absolutely know that I did because I went to a yay concert. I'm going to tell you all about that. Easily the most inspiring show that I have ever been to. And I saw it at the exact right time because I keep telling you guys, I am back. I feel healed. I'm fighting now with a very clear mind, which is good because in two days,

it will be the one-year anniversary of Charlie's passing. And I've been listening to the Kanye West classics, so the forecast is not looking good this week for those that betrayed Charlie Kirk. Stay indoors. In fact, this just might wind up being the coldest story ever told. See what I did there? A Turning Point USA is firing up the anniversary engine, so to speak. First, Erica Kirk has moved to publish a one-year look back on her grief in an op-ed for the New York Times. And it's not exactly a tear-jurker.

I've read it. We're going to go through that. addition, Blake Neff has shared a totally bizarre detail about a conversation that he had in the hospital shortly after Charlie was pronounced dead. It is not good. It is not going to do anything about those pesky rumors. And we're going to talk about all of this. Welcome back to Candace. What a weekend, you guys. Okay, so I'm sitting at a peak of inspiration in this moment. In case you did not know, the artist formerly known as Kanye West, yay. He has been touring and he has been selling out stadiums are between 70,000, 100,000 seats all over the world.

It should be mentioned. He's essentially doing a world tour that is equal to Taylor Swift's Era's tour. And he's doing it amissed a total media blackout. That's what makes this really a cultural phenomenon because the media, they cannot stand to acknowledge the success of those that it attempted to destroy. Okay, I'm going to say that again. the media cannot stand to acknowledge the persistent success of individuals that they attempted to destroy. Hence, the crash out from people online who dedicate their lives full time to try to destroy me.

They were completely traumatized by me living my life this weekend. I saw one person posted their conversation with Grock about whether it's safe for me to go to a concert at eight months pregnant. And Grock said, no, the baby could be. be startled by the music because their hearing is developed. Okay. And then I saw the same people who told us that overwhelming happiness and fireworks displayed at a funeral was perfectly normal stuff, right? Those same people were then trying to convince us that my happiness and fireworks that were displayed at a yay concert one year later was completely unacceptable. Things are just hilariously backward. I also wish to underscore the sincere.

stupidity of their excuse as to why fireworks were okay at Charlie's funeral. They were like, Charlie loved pyrotechnics. Yeah, I'm sure he did when he was celebrating. I'm sure he also loved birthday cards, birthday cake, candles, hot girls and bikinis. That does not make any of those things appropriate in a funeral setting. It's just a bizarre way to try to argue that people were wrong for feeling weird about the celebratory nature of a funeral. Anyway, I. enough about that. I have to show you guys some clips from Ye's return to the stage. Here is the crowd singing Heartless. And I am borrowing this footage. I mean, just just look at that stadium size. And one of my favorites, this is famous and the cameras which were turned on the crowd. Take a listen here.

And both nights, he closed out the show with his song Runway. I'm just mentioning here, by the way, I'm borrowing this footage of people on Instagram. I did not record one second of I was just way. too excited. I was a true fan. No time to be behind a camera lens. But he closed out both shows with his song Run Away. Just amazing because when it starts, he just makes one piano note and everyone goes crazy. He essentially has made one piano note famous. And then he starts playing more notes and the crowd just goes wild. Take a look at this. All I can say is that it was a night of art. moving art. There's no other way to express what I witnessed, what I felt. It was something that was uplifting and it further inspired me. And it's difficult to express to audiences what Yay returning to Chicago

during the week of Charlie's death anniversary meant to me. Obviously, you guys know Charlie was from Chicago. He's very proud of that. He loved Kanye, thanks to me. He loved the song Homecoming in particular, which is Kanye's, it was his ode to Chicago effectively. And it all, it all just felt to me extremely providential, the timing of it all. And I should also mention that Yay had not been back on stage in his hometown in over six years. So there was no way in the world that I was going to miss this show a month ago. We started planning to attend. We were willing, of course, to pay ourselves to go, but Yay's team was like absolutely not. They went above and beyond. We had the most fantastic time. We landed into Chicago thinking that we'd have plenty of

time to go to dinner before going to the show, but the traffic was insane. He just shut down the city. The entire city was attending this concert. That's what it felt like. By the time we got to our hotel through all the traffic, we had about 15 minutes to drop our bags before heading over to Ye's Hotel. And it was just such a beautiful and wonderful thing to see people just lined up outside. And really, they were just waiting for him to exit his motorcade, just to cheer and take photos. And applaud as he was leaving his hotel. And they just wanted to wave. I stopped and take and then took photos with a lot of those people. We have a lot of joint fans. And it was exciting for me as well just to be with people again after a long year. I do have to tell you guys, I had this terrible,

terribly awkward moment in the lobby. In the hotel lobby, my brain just sort of glitched for a second. We were grabbing our concert passes. And I'm speaking to someone. on his team and suddenly I look behind them and Kim Kardashian's in the lobby. I hadn't seen her since like pre-divorce. I was so confused. I'm thinking, oh no, oh my, she's going to this concert. And you know, I've said some things about Kim and now I'm about to be in a box with her all night because, you know, gay makes up with people at random times. And I was just like, oh, I kind of just stared across the lobby at her with a half smile. Have you ever seen her? Have you ever seen that viral stare-down meme from that show? You've likely seen the meme. It's Diddy and that

gay guy looking back and forth at each other. I was effectively the gay guy in the scenario. This is live footage of me and Kim Kay in a lobby. Take a look. It's like, okay. It was all fine. Turns out she was actually in town for a show that Northwest had the following night. It's all good, no hard feelings. Everybody, no hard feelings. All love to her and hers. Now from there, we then went to the concert in the motorcade, got to witness greatness. We had all access passes so we could actually go to any section in the arena. But as soon as we were up in a box and I saw the energy and the movement of the people on the ground, essentially just having a party, I looked at my husband, I looked at security, and I was like, I got, come on, you guys know I have to be down there.

I just, I got to be down there. And so I was down to crowd surf at eight months pregnant. It's just who I am. I was so energized. It was just, I can't express the most, you can still go see the concert. If you're on the fence about doing that, I think his next U.S. date is maybe in Dallas. I might be wrong. Maybe Houston. Go. Anyway, I wanted to introduce this because I, like I said at the top, there's a lot of people who don't understand, which I can understand how you don't understand, what yay means to the world and what he means to culture and why people, like myself, truly believe he is the greatest artist living. Because you probably have seen him through a lens of the media and you probably did not grow up with his music. And I'm going to do my

best to very quickly explain this to you because it's relevant, honestly, it's relevant to the person that I am today. There is a depth to his artistry that even if you never become a fan of his music, it is good for you to grasp, at least peripherally, why he has this effect and he's able to survive all of these, quote-unquote cancellations. In fact, I've told you guys this story many times before, but when Charlie and I were driving up in a rental car that we had picked up at Denver airport and we had this three-hour journey up the mountain side to wherever we were going. We were just listening to music and I realized that he didn't know Kanye West's music at all. And I mean, like, he didn't know the difference between Kanye West and Jay-Z.

And I was like, stop the car. This is not a thing. You are from Chicago. And I just sort of took him through the story and the journey. And I'm going to give you guys a crash course from that car ride. effectively, which turned Charlie into a big A fan. He would then run 10 miles a day to his music, and we would text about it all the time and just feel really inspired and uplifted by it. But I want to start with this little snippet from an interview that Kanye, back then he was called Kanye,

gave to, this is 2013. He was giving an interview to the BBC regarding his quote unquote fans, and this is what he said. Go listen to all my music. It's the codes of self-eastern, esteem. It's the codes of who you are. If you're a Kanye West fan, you're not a fan of me. You're a fan of yourself. You will believe in yourself. I'm just the espresso. I'm just a shot in the morning to get you going to make you believe that you can overcome that situation that you're dealing with all the time. So if you grew up listening to Kanye West's music, you understand that he really is sort of a white hacker, as it's referred to, in the matrix. Right. We live in a matrix of some description. There's a certain computer code that's running that we are impacted by, that we are

meant to follow. And we don't really know who's programming, right? We don't know who's writing this code, only that they expect us to exist mindlessly within it. And any person that notices that there is this code is perceived as an immediate threat, right? Kanye's music represented a hacking to that code. He is correct. Like you listen to what he's saying and suddenly you start recognizing that, why do I think this? Why am I not allowed to think this? And I'm going to give you an example. One of his first mainstream songs was entitled All Falls Down. It was a song where he laid out, which was quite shocking, all of his insecurities. No artists had ever done this before at this stage. A famous person referring to his own shortcomings, his financial irresponsibility.

his inability to pronounce certain words in the song as well prior to. We all sort of had this idea of fame being unattainable in a way. And then Kanye drops all falls down and he's calling everyone out. And I felt very seen by his lyrics. He was speaking about in one verse. He's speaking about a woman in college. And the lyrics are, man, I promise. She's so self-conscious.

She has no idea what she's doing in college. the major that she majors in don't make no money, but she won't drop out her parents to look at her funny. Then he says, now tell me that ain't insecure. The concept of school seems so secure. That was me. I had no idea what I was doing in college. Journalism in English double major. What idea? No clue. I was just following the embedded matrix code that if you don't sign up for, I guess, government debt. I had no money to go to college. Find up for government debt anyways. If you don't sign up, if you don't go to school, then you're a failure. right, that's just a code. And we don't know why we do the things other than insecurity. That's pure pressure and insecurity, which cost me about $150,000 in student loans. And you're just sort of

scared that you're not going to fit in unless you do what everyone else is doing. And he's speaking to that. And then he has the second verse of that where he addresses himself and he and he says, man, I promise, I'm so self-conscious. That's why you always see me with at least one of my watches, Rollies and Pasha's done drove me crazy. I can't even pronounce nothing past that Versacei. So he's talking about Versacei. And Roles being Rolexes and Pasha's being Cartier watches. And he's so self-conscious that he feels like he has to wear this stuff.

He can't even pronounce Versace. You should know that young Kanye had aspirations to be in fashion. We'd see that later in his life, even if he couldn't pronounce the words, right? He couldn't pronounce Versacee, but he loved to. fashion. And that in and of itself is meant to be a bar to entry. Like, you're not saying the words right. So how could you be fashionable if you don't know that it's Versacee? And not Versacee. How could you know anything about anything? If you can't pronounce all of these tricky French words like, I don't know, I think Cartier is French. I don't even know if it's French, actually.

And it all really culminates in the song when he says, it seems we're living the American dream. The people highest up have the lowest self-esteem. The prettiest people do the best. The prettiest people do the ugliest things, bent on the road to riches and diamond rings. And that is a reality. I have seen that up close. It's what people will be willing to do to get to the top, what people will be willing to do to have money. And when you get up there, you sort of realize that these people do not have any self-esteem whatsoever. And they will be, we'll do practically anything to maintain their popularity because they have such low self-esteem. That has been the consistent messaging of his music, which is why it's so funny, people who don't listen to it.

They think he's so narcissistic because he just believes in himself. And, but if you listen to his music, you're like, narcissistic. This man is constantly expressing, talking about his addictions, talking about the traps in life, talking about the lore of women, him not doing the right thing, talking about his divorce, talking about the mistakes that he's made. Letting people know that you essentially have to believe in yourself is, has been, Kanye's consistent messaging. Like the current design of the matrix is to lean into whatever it is that they think will make

you feel too self-conscious to express yourself, right? It's like you're not allowed to run counter to the mainstream. You're however you feel it's not allowed to be counter to the mainstream and they want you to feel isolated in alone. They tell you who to like, what's fashionable, who's cool, who's crazy, of course. That's one of their favorite tools. This person has gone crazy. You don't want to be associated with crazy.

So even if you kind of like that person, you don't want to express that publicly. That's kind of how it works. And why you don't belong in certain crowds, there's that messaging as well. So for me, it was why you can't like Trump. Well, you're black, right? Then when I expressed that I like Trump, it became, well, now you have to like Trump forever. Why don't like him anymore? Why can't I change my mind on the basis of what he's actually doing?

Why can I now despise all the things that he's doing? Oh, then you're going to get kicked out of this crowd. You just got welcomed into this crowd. You were in Magaland. Now you're kicked out of Magaland. And for a very long time, the media had the power to create and to delete people with what seems like a Department of Defense-level budget. Now that we know that they engage in this sort of stuff, the media has always operated as the real digital assassins. And that really is until yay.

No one faced that enemy harder than yay did. Not many people understood what he was doing. Many people still do not understand the battles that he fought. It's very difficult to understand it outside of his music. Like I said, he has never been accused of being a great order. So when he sits down for interviews, it sometimes, a lot of times goes very sideways. But if you followed his music, you understood it. And I stressed this to Charlie that it's all about learning that as you climb,

the pot of gold that they're going to offer you for your soul or to stop growing at a certain level gets bigger. And it also comes with bigger guard rolls. And it's hard not to say yes to that. Kanye started as a Grammy Award winning producer. He was making beats for the biggest artists in the world. And then he said, I want to be a rapper. And he was told, no, keep making beats.

This is where you are. You're great at this. And he said, I don't accept that no. and he went on to become a Grammy-winning rapper. And he was a rapper and decided that he wanted to get into fashion. And he was told, no, you're an artist, you're at the top of your game, you have everything, you don't belong in fashion. But he didn't accept that, no, and he did it anyways.

And then he created a billion-dollar brand of sneakers, Yeezy. And then came even bigger offers, the Adidas and the Gap deals, and they were worth billions. and all Ye had to do to maintain that was to shut up about politics. And that was a pretty, I mean, I would say that that's an offer that most people would take. Don't express, just don't express that you like Trump. Don't talk about Jewish power in Hollywood or the messages that certain Jewish people in your life are sending you. And you can be a billionaire. I've been in the room with those sorts of offers, not billions ever offered to me of

course, but I definitely said no to a lot of millions. I've told you that story. It was when Kanye tweeted that he was about to go DefCon 3 on some Jewish people in his life and the amount of peer pressure that anybody who had a platform faced, make a statement about Kanye, call him crazy, say something is wrong. I remember sitting in that conference room, I had nothing to do with the statement, literally nothing to do with it. And despite everyone in the world condemning him, they needed me to make that statement because they knew I was friends with him. And they just wanted a simple message, the copy and pasted, I do not abide by anti-Semitism and all of its forms and what Kanye is doing is wrong. And so many people who were in his life made that statement. And I didn't.

And so the consequence that I faced at the Daily Wire, after a very heated conference, literally the co-CEO banged his fist. I was like, why won't you do this for us? Don't you realize how hard this is for Ben that you won't make a statement? Like, I looked back on that. Could you imagine if I had sold Kanye out for Ben Shapiro? It's like, it's funny to reflect on. But I held the line. And I lost millions because of it. Yeah, they changed my contract because of it. But they needed to build trust with me. So they edited the contract and put in a different clause because of what Kanye said. But you have to think about that and think about yourself. And if you were yay and you were offered billions and all you had to do was shut up to maintain it,

so be somewhat controlled, how many of you guys honestly would have acquiesced to that? Probably a lot of people. Maybe at this level where I'm at, the ask is simply say nothing about Charlie Kirk's assassination or say something and pretend to be overwhelmed by the evidence that this one person did it in actual loan. And we'll give you millions, hundreds of thousands, who knows what the number is? Would you do it? I think people are doing it for a lot less. We know that Charlie faced that moment in his own life.

I know he did. I know what Andrew told me. B.B. offered to take turning point to the next level. You can only imagine the weight of what Charlie was facing in those final weeks of his life when he was at a table and offers were made to him. And I think we all know, but he said no. He said no. Like Yay said no. Yeah, you let it all burn to the ground. I never get tired of telling the story. But when those decisions were made and when a D-does and Gap pulled their deals back and he was no longer a billionaire, I was in tears. Seeing someone that you've looked up to your whole life who has fought and one various battles. Really, the only battle is just to be himself, suddenly have everything stripped away from him in a moment, including his marriage, right? The demise of his marriage happened at the exact same time. I just felt tremendous sadness. And when I spoke to him on the phone and I am talking, I spoke to him within hours of that public announcement of Adidas making that public announcement.

I will never forget what he said. He said, I'm finally, free. I thought he was going to be upset and he said, I'm finally free. And I always reflect on the weight and the courage of that statement and how it shaped me. Of course, a year and a half later, it is exactly what I would refer to in my own mind and what I would tweet when it was announced that I was parting from the Daily Wire, aka fired, tweeted the rumors are true. I am finally free. I just wanted to be free. Take it all. Do what you do. do. Have the media matrix lie, paint me as some villain because I said genocide is always wrong, ban me from Australia after that Zionist lobby of Australia, getting me banned like I'm some threats

to society because in politics you have to be pro-Israel or get destroyed and have your character destroyed. Yeah, I had the courage to believe in myself and to rebuild because Ye had the courage before me. And that's what he means to culture and to so many people. And boy, did he rebuild. And that's really what the concert was about. It was just against all odds. He had the ability to not sell himself out. And he resurrected his own career.

Yay actually shared this meme, which was created by one of his fans online, of what it felt like to those who had followed his story and then watched his return to Chicago with so many other artists by his side, brought on stage or in the audience like I was just supporting him and their take on it was Avengers style take a look at this I love it I just love that it's it is that he beat he beat cancel culture you can't never take that from him no one thought he was coming back after the last couple of years and how quickly he came back I do also love that it's the Avengers not the Revengers because there's an important distinction between the

words avenge and revenge. And the latter, revenge, signifies a personal vendetta, personal malice, vigilante justice in a sense, wherein you're sort of taking the law into your own hands. Like there's an inherent anger and a selfishness in that pursuit. But to avenge something is different, right? It's cleaner. It's not angry. It's the restoration of moral order, a defense of the helpless. And I feel like in this moment, we are collectively avenging the public execution of Charlie Kirk. And I've said, I'm not angry anymore. I still would sit down with all of the characters in Charlie's life, who I think are moving suspiciously. I wake up and I am happy every day because I think that it has brought people from both sides together, like on this team of

Avengers. We all sense that what we're doing is about restoring moral order, that what happened on September 10th of last year cannot stand, and it won't stand. And we all sense that know now that the Department of War is seeking revenge on us for doing so. Revenge is not going to cut it. Anger is not going to cut it. Truth is going to win the day. And I have a strong hunch, as I always have, that we are going to win this thing. By the way, I love watching this clip on Rewind because every time a new Yay song dropped, I would just be singing it in the back seat, distracting Charlie from driving.

Here's another very quick installment in the Candace Coulchering Charlie chapters, never-ending chapters. Too many great moments. A lot that I'm bringing up from the archives and I'll be sharing on September 10th and just seeing Yay back on stage is just so much that has just come

full circle. And even my introduction to the world, to the cultural world, Charlie was with me, right? He was with me when I met Yeh. He was by my side. He made it into the Yeh documentary that was released last year. When Yeh introduced me on TMZ, Charlie was there. I mean, you can see him in the background if you watch the full interview. And Yeh is talking about the ever relevant topic of being intentionally de-platformed. Me, at the time, I was not being platformed by the hip-hop world because I didn't fit neatly into the box of what a black person was supposed to be.

And I love this moment. Take a listen. Okay, so Ebro, I FaceTime on, and I'm there with Candice, right? And Ebro starts bringing up his version of facts, right? And Candice has facts. She's researched, right? Candice Owens.

Candice Owens has facts, she's research. and then Candace just pulls out her Jedi lightsaber and just, you know, chops Ebro's head off with facts. The Ebro FaceTimes me the next day, and he's talking about the scoop, boop. You want to talk about music now. I said, yo, you're going to have Candace on your show? He's like, nah, she's mean.

So you're going to stifle her voice, Ebro? You're choosing to enslave people's minds. You're choosing to not let the truth be free. I just love that. And it's so funny now to see so many corporations and people that I've worked with in politics, try to take credit or in this sort of backhanded way. I created Candice Howitz.

I helped to create the monster, like deranged former CEOs and people. I worked with her, so I have some inside scoop on who she is. No, none of you created me. None of you contributed to creating me. And actually, if there was one person who could say that, he would never utter that statement. And that would be A.

Like, it's funny because I said that there, there's no Candace without Charlie. And in many ways, there was no Charlie and Candace when the real storm happened. And we both were given this jet fuel in our careers. It was because of yay. Anyway, so I want to say about that just to share what was on my heart, my mind. And we'll be right back after a break to talk about some pre-anniversary stuff that is coming out from Turning Point USA. All right, you guys, for 20 years, Pre-Born has stood in the gap between 50s.

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where Charlie gave an interview. And we know that Blake cannot account for where he was. He says he was keeping time or something of that nature. He didn't even remember who he was with. He had to be reminded that he was with Danny, who was driving the vehicle, which is strange because apparently he's been keeping account of my vacations.

He's really crashing out these days. He tweeted this. He hasn't been doing a very good job of keeping track of them. But he did tweet this over the last couple of days. Candice finds it implausible and ridiculous that Charlie would be excited about his largest campus tour ever

because it was also his job. Somehow I am not surprised that Candice, seven vacations a year, Owens, can't imagine someone liking work. Okay, so I understand that it could be hard for a 36-year-old in-cell who has no prospects, no family, no kids to imagine that someone might prioritize their family

and their friends above podcasting, but just to set the record straight, if you're going to avail yourself to tracking my time spent traveling, please put your best foot forward, Blakey, and do it accurately. Thus far this year, we've taken a total of three vacations, our family holiday to Spain, our partial family trip to Russia

because we didn't take the youngest because of the intensity of the flight, and my seven-year anniversary trip to Iceland fishing with my husband. And for clarity, if Charlie's death has taught me and I hope everyone back at home anything, I probably didn't take enough time off, right? Charlie rarely took time off.

We have obviously tracked all of his dates, all of his appearances. He was hardly home. He gave everything to build the very organization that now seeks to lie about who he was and actually seeks to make him appear as though he himself was a liar, not been honest or forthcoming about what he was up against in his final days, what his struggles were, who he was fighting. And yeah, he fed that monster. I'm not going to make the same mistake of thinking that bigger somehow means better. I think my

team is trustworthy. That's why I like to keep my team small. I think that's the best. I think that's the benefit of having a small team is that you have people that you know, and they're going to continue to get time off because they work hard when we're on air. I expect 100% from them when they are here, and then I expect them to enjoy their real lives outside of me. I don't do the Erica Kirk. You're my family thing. I'm not their family. And they should go home to their families, work hard and live a good life, especially after this year, right? This has been the most emotionally taxing year of my life. They have stood by me through that. And so Blake, you're just sort of off the mark with trying to tell people that somehow

they should be wanting to dedicate their lives more in the way that Charlie did. And clearly, clearly, judging by your actions, the things that you have said, you were not worth that investment. Also, I have to draw your attention to this. This is wacky. Okay. So they're all sort of giving these interviews right now coming up upon the one year anniversary and Blake Neff spoke to Deseret News, which is in Utah. It's like a local news in New Utah. And here's what it says. It says Neff, he did a, I guess it's supposed to be like a profile piece. Neff remembers sitting in the waiting room at the Orm, Utah Hospital where Kirk was taken on September 10th, and talking about how podcaster Candice Owens would react to Charlie's death. He said Charlie was aware

of Owens' theories about France's first lady being transgender, as well as what he described. as weird stuff about Jewish cults, and that some of her views were part of the reason that TPSA had become less involved with Owens around 2024. Now they're quoting him. Someone said, Candace is going to have an extreme reaction to this.

And instantly, I was like, yeah, yeah, she will. I'm sorry, what? I want to remind you guys, I don't know this creature. I've never met Blake Neff. I have, he has never, he doesn't know Charlie the most. If everyone in this story, Tia spent the least amount of time with Charlie. He himself says that he didn't join Charlie's team until, what was it, mid-20203. So he knew Charlie for a year and a half. I never came across him. He's out in Arizona.

I'm in Tennessee. You're having a conversation about how Candice will react and conspiracy theories while you're sitting in the hospital and you just found out that Charlie's dead. Why are you not a conspiracy theorist in that moment? This is in the middle of the manhunt. Nobody knew anything. You guys are already having conversations about how other people are going to react rather than reacting yourselves and going who could have done this. Does that make sense to? Is there something very wacky and bizarre about that conversation that he's now admitting to? He won't name the person, which makes me think usually when he develops this amnesia,

it's usually about Danny Phillip for some reason. Maybe it's about someone else. I don't know that for a fact, obviously. but that's their conversation. Oh, Candice is going to have a reaction to Charlie being murdered. Candice is going to have a very strong reaction to Charlie being murdered. I'm sitting in the waiting room. That's the first thought.

This girl that I don't know is going to have a strong reaction. Why are you not having a strong reaction? Why are you not in that moment going, oh my gosh, who could have done this? Who were his enemies? What did he say last night? Blake, why didn't you say, oh, well, Andrew says that Charlie was worried someone was going to kill him? Who could have done this? Why are you guys not imagining the scenarios coming up with answers?

Why does it feel like you already know it's not a conspiracy as Charlie's in the hospital? This is very odd. This is a very odd admission from Blake that they were worried about me. And there's a reason they're worried about me because they should have been worried about me. They knew that I would never bend the knee to this. I would never bend to the knee to a dumb story, the cookie cutter story, that someone climbed on a rooftop

who had never committed any, even petty crimes in their life, who took just one shot out of just pure confidence, not even a couple of shots, to make sure they hit them, and then scaled a rooftop. So maybe that's why they were concerned. It's starting to feel like Blake, for some reason,

had confidence and knew that I would not trust the science on Charles' assassination. That's what I get from that admission. Canis is not going to just trust the narrative and the science. I really do wonder who he was speaking to. Blake always says too much because Blake wants to be a star despite the fact that he has no talent. And I find that admission to be strange. In other news, Erica, if you have not seen it,

released an op-ed in the New York Times, a one-year look back on her grief, which we kind of never saw displayed publicly. The contrary, we just saw an Erica who wanted to move on to be the CEO, but now she's writing an article about her grief. And I'm going to be honest with you, it's another terrible installment in the never-ending book of PR blunders. Let's start with the fact that she's even doing this in the New York Times.

And it's behind a paywall. Okay. She just continues to partner, with a publication that her deceased husband hated. This was the first publication she partnered with. She opened their apartment to an in-person interview and sat down with them. What was it, two days after Charlie's assassination?

Charlie never wrote an op-ed for the New York Times. His opinion of them is long, documented all throughout his career. He perceived them as what they are, a fixture of the deep state apparatus. he registered himself as opposed to their perspectives. And he would read the New York Times so that he knew what their perspectives were. Take a listen to one of many clips. Like I said, they're endless.

Where that you could find Charlie Kirk speaking about how and why he consumed the New York Times and how he consumed the New York Times. Take a listen. So there is a new story out of the New York Times. And I'm not really sure what to make of this. It's possible the New York Times is actually telling the truth. I have the New York Times right here. I read it so you don't have to.

Every morning I'm reading the New York Times. The paper of record. I always get a kick out of it. The New York Times. All the news that's fit to print. That's right there on the New York Times. I get some really nasty emails. Charlie, why do you read the New York Times?

I want to know what the intelligentsia is saying. It's also the I think it has the most circulation of any newspaper in the country. Actually, the Wall Street Journal might have more. But anyway, you should know what the other side is saying. Always. Same perspective that he held somehow immediately that was something she reversed course on and felt comfortable having them in her home. Okay, fine.

So right off the bat, we're just going, why is this in the New York Times? Why is it behind a paywall? And why can't you just do anything that feels normal? And as Charlie was, I guess you've been honest, it's just turning point 2.0. It has nothing to do with turning point 1.0. It's a totally different organization. It's unattainable.

You work with the Department of War. You work with the Deep State apparatus. you are their emotional asset. We get it. It just feels like you're laying it on thick and like maybe you could have just published a substack here. If I'm running your PRH to do a substack

about how you feel, don't put it behind a paywall, what you've learned about grief, okay? And you get into the article and you're like a couple of lines down and she's once again mentioning the Vance family. This has felt like one long promotional event for the Vance family. It's like the deepest thing,

she can only reach so deep as what Ushah Vance said to her on the plane, right? And she remarks, it's September 11th, 2025, a day after my husband Charlie Kirk was shot and killed. The past 24 hours feel like a fever dream. As I land in Phoenix from Utah and return home, I get out of the car and my kids run into my arms. They have no idea where I was or what I was doing. They care only that I'm home. As I walk to the front door, it was a tightening in my chest I don't recognize. Is this what grief feels like? I sit on the couch where Charlie sat two nights ago, watching the cubs with our kids. I feel a wave building inside of me.

I know it's about to crash. I don't know how I'm going to do this, I told second lady Ushah Vance earlier that day, and she held my hand and she said, you know when you're on an airplane with your kids and you're going to land in 15 minutes, but the kids are going crazy, screaming, throwing things,

and then the plane lands, and the kids relax, and everything is fine again. That's how it will be. Just get through the next 15 minutes. Her words are seared into my heart. They're not just seared into your heart. They're seared into the first speech that you gave. They're seared into the conference call that you said at Turning Point USA. We just keep hearing this over and over again. And we're at the one year anniversary. And I'm thinking when I opened this, like, surely they hired someone who could put something that's a tearjerker together. We're going to read this and we're going to see a side of Erica that we haven't seen and not something that constantly feels like an advertisement for someone else and feels political and controlled. You're not getting that from this article. It's everything you've already heard. In fact, I think that if you had challenged

chat GPT to write something more emotional, chat GPT could have risen to the moment without question. Without question. It would said this is stuff you've already said. You have back forth conversation with Claude. The stuff you've already said I would probably try to reach a little deeper. They have seen this surface level of you. We know you love Vance.

You opened Amfest and said, we got to get Vance elected. He's defending. We get that. Can we maybe something Charlie said to. you that stuck with you. Maybe something else you learned beyond that first day from the second lady aboard another private plane talking about previous private planes that you were on because they always traveled private. Charlie was traveling private to all of his events, right? We know this. So she's like the last 15 minutes like it's supposed to be relatable when you're

flying private. You're on Air Force too. This is like the not the most relatable thing that you could share. And then she goes on and it's just a regurgitation of everything she's already said. She wants you know she's not angry at God. Yes, we got all of this from the Jesse Waters interview. She writes grief is strange. Time continues even when every part of you wants it to pause or better yet rewind. But the people we love who have passed on would not want us to spend the rest of our lives trying to rewind. At first, I needed to survive the next 15 minutes. Again, here we are. Thank you, Vance, family. Over time, I've realized that Charlie would want me to live them. Over time, you were living within six days, laughing at emojis.

We were laughing at emojis on a Zoom call. I thought you were in bed that you couldn't sleep, that you couldn't eat, potentially had to drug yourself to sleep. You were just giggling at emojis. And then you told us that told Jesse Waters interview that you didn't even need a sleeping pill. You didn't even need to take melatonin. and you just fell asleep because you knew God had you. And she stresses that.

Over time, I've realized, Charlotte would want me to live. Occasionally, I'm asked whether I'm angry at God. I say no. My husband was one of one. I was blessed to be his wife. And I understood his assignment here on earth. Again, this is a regurgitation of the speech that she gave on stage.

So what's the purpose of this? What is the purpose of this other than to make money for the New York Times, which is a part of the deep state apparatus, factually speaking? Operation Mockingbird. The New York Times was involved in that after they committed

another, a different state assassination. The assassination of JFK. So here she is, helping them get signups, running counter to how her husband felt about his publication.

She closes this. I'm not kidding, this is the last, these are the last three lines. I will tell you what a dear friend, she's saying, and to put this in context

of, if you are living through grief, I won't tell you what to feel or that tomorrow will be better than today, I will tell you what a dear friend told me. Just get through the next 15 minutes. Vance, Vance's, Vance. One day, maybe when you least expect it,

you'll start to see those 15 minutes hold more than just grief. The grief is there always, but so is the beautiful gift of life. And like I said, you can read this article in its entirety. I was expecting that they would have hired someone who, I don't know, like Nicholas Sparks. Nicholas Sparks was available, right? I haven't didn't know if he's written a recent book. Notebook was beautiful. They've got a lot of money. I don't know why the Department of War

isn't used Nicholas Sparks to write this. And then we would go, okay, like maybe she was just being weird and roboty and like this is, you learn nothing about Charlie and this. It feels just very fake. Like I said, very surface. There's never any substance to anything. And they had an opportunity to do that. Even after we have to get through the fact that it's the New York Times and it's behind the paywall and they missed it. So this was another missed opportunity in Turning Point USA. But we'll see what we're looking forward to whatever it is they're going to put together for Friday at Thursday, pardon me, at UVU. I guess I don't know who's been listed as speaking at that event. I think Glenn Beck.

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thanks to text messages being released, we were able to reveal that for whatever reason, Charlie was sending messages that they're going to kill him when he was on this Zoom call with Israel, with Israeli officials, as Frank Turek termed them. That came from Frank Turek. There were two Israeli officials. We know from Israel,

then we know that Rabbi Wolicki was on FaceTime call. Sorry, I'm saying FaceTime. I'm at Zoom call because he was in. Arizona at the time. We've got Josh Hammer and we're supposed to believe this massive call, which came on the heels to just two hours after Charlie said he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause. And no, he was not kidding. It was not tongue-in-cheek because I spoke to his wife about it. And she never said that he was kidding or that it was tongue-in-cheek. She admitted that that happened. She was getting her nails done when this was going on. That story is now changing.

We know it wasn't tongue-in-cheek because Andrew Colbett gave that conversation to Tulsi-Gabbard's office. So we clearly knew and thought that. that there was something that should be explored about the nature of that conversation. Otherwise, you wouldn't give it to Tulsi Gabbard's office. If everybody's joking, you had a friendly conversation thereafter, that was not the case.

Turning Point continues to speak, and we continue to timeline. Anyway, top comments from last episode regarding that from the audacity, they wrote the only reason you don't tell your spouse that you're afraid of something like being murdered is because you don't trust them. And yes, it's relevant that Erica,

when she gave interviews, thereafter, said that Charlie was just excited the night before. Weird for him to be fearful that he was going to die, but so excited that he couldn't sleep. I feel like maybe there was something else going on there. No, I do not believe that Charlie was excited about doing a UVU event. I'm sorry, I've done too many tourists. I've traveled with him too much to believe that. He was that excited about something that he's always done and that it would cause him not to be able to sleep. That's a high level of excitement for an adult to experience for something that he's always done at a place that he already did it at. He already had done. He already had done.

a UVU stop multiple times throughout his career. This was nothing new. Anyway, we are to believe that Erica had no idea that he had any fears the night before. I find that very hard to believe, and I know that you guys do too. Noah writes, the fact that Charlie sent those messages while on Zoom with Israel was absolutely bone-chilling. It sent a shiver down my spine. It should. It does to me as well. It is another piece, of course, in this puzzle, and it certainly does not register as true to me that Charlie had to speak to Israeli officials at 4 a.m. in the morning their time to help him with debate. Charlie was pretty good at debating. I don't think he needed this much help from so many people. It just doesn't make any. Frank Turk's on the call. Like,

is he some grand debater? Is he known to be a phenomenal debater? It's just all such a nonsense. That many people giving tips on debate. And also, you know, he, like Josh Hammer said, He just was really interested in Josh Hammer's book. He just wanted to know more about that. Comments on today's episode. This user writes, keep going. You've got this love from Stanford, Connecticut, my hometown. Thank you.

Love to see you guys here. Ali writes, Andrew Judas Colvett, tried to make an excuse for the fireworks at the memorial and said, quote, the team set that up and Erica didn't know. Well, did they also force her to wear a sparkling pantsuit? Yeah, I think she got the message and the theme, and she chose her attire accordingly. M. Sanders writes, please consider pre-recording shows to get us through your maternity leave.

Then withdrawals are going to be a whole vibe, crisis king. I will be announcing soon who is going to take over my show three days a week while I am on maternity leave while we make that announcement next week.

I think you guys will be happy with my decision. M. Sanders, oh, I just read that. This user writes, Salem Media, Waterstone is releasing a Charlie Kirk documentary with an alleged unreleased least interview filmed shortly before September 10th called Can You Hear Me Now on September 10th of

this year. Yeah, Salem Media and Waterstone, they are acquiring Salem Media. That's interesting because we know that Salem Media is behind or the Faradocs, the filings immediately after Charlie Di, you went over that in an earlier episode, the Israeli foreign minister getting involved in spending money in America to give us the October 7th experience to tether Christians further. Their apparatus has been Salem Media, and they gave that money because they wanted to see results. Brad Parscale, I believe, was on the board of Salem Media, or he was at least an executive at Salem Media, who brought this forward. So I will assume that that is going to be Israeli propaganda, just judging by the paradox, Faith by Works, LLC, and the like.

Lynn Maria writes, Though we mourn and grieve, Charlie Kirk is finally free. I love that. That is beautiful and well said. And like I said, he died with his soul intact because I know whatever he was offered. He said no to. I don't give a Dom, writes.

Blake Neff would call a hot dog a sandwich and then wonder why nobody invites him to the deli. Just love that. Jessica Coates, I basically checked myself out of the hospital to make sure that I did not miss your show. I just walked in the door, battle bun ready. I see keep going, Max, Candice. We know, no. Well, we will definitely be able to pull out some threads this week as we should leading up to the one year anniversary of Charlie's passing. And we're going to be hit with just, I can't even imagine how much money they're going to be spending on attacking me as they always do when they should be focused on just getting to the truth. They are now working with, it just seems like now they're working with like drug addicts. Like, I don't know. their new pocket of influencers just seems remarkably trailer trash in my view. Like I said,

you sense their desperation. They know nobody believes them. Nobody certainly believes that they're carrying on Charlie's legacy in any fashion, in any manner of fashion, because they just seem to do everything that runs counter to what Charlie expressed his desires were publicly. And yeah, so it's going to be a week. Buckle in. We have a lot of stuff to share, and I look forward I look forward to it, and I certainly will be getting into the Charlie and Candace Archives, which has been a very emotional journey. I will leave it at that, and we will see you guys tomorrow.