Candace - Did Erika Kirk Know Jeffrey Epstein? | Candace Ep 309

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

President Trump appoints Erika Kirk to the Air Force Academy’s board of visitors and Erika just keeps getting involved with countries, companies, and schools that Epstein was involved in. 00:00 ...- Start. 01:41 - Trump appoints Erika Kirk to Air Force Academy board. 06:13 - Jeffrey Epstein connections. 31:44 - Questions on where Erika was on September 8th. 46:36 - Comments. PreBorn!​ ​ To donate, dial #250 and say they keyword “BABY" or by visiting https://preborn.com/candace Balance of Nature​ ​ Go to http://BalanceofNature.com to subscribe and save today. Join hundreds of thousands of customers in one simple routine that’s changing the world. PureTalk​ ​​​​​ Make the switch today and save an additional 50% off your first month at http://www.PureTalk.com/Owens American Financing​​​​​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.196% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, you guys, in today's episode of Everybody Grieves Differently, and by the way, I should say we are in like season 17, episode four. You know, the writers are running out of ideas and they're just putting up things that don't even make sense anymore. Yeah, well, on today's episode, President Trump has appointed Erica Kirk to the Air Force Academy's Board of Visitors. Now, if you would like to know how that further empowers this world-renowned widow, who is definitely grieving,
Starting point is 00:00:30 I will explain that to you. Is she qualified? Of course not, not even a little bit. Does it even matter? Also, I got to speak to you about something much more seriously. I have a hunch, a growing hunch, that Erica and Jeffrey Epstein may have crossed paths. Something is not sitting right with me
Starting point is 00:00:49 about how she just keeps dancing around Jeffrey Epstein in her life. I am finding it increasingly difficult to believe that Erica just keeps coincidentally getting involved with countries and companies and schools that Epstein is involved in deeply, involved with deeply. So I went ahead and messaged PR team, legal team over at Turning Point USA with a very specific question pertaining to a modeling company that I recently discovered that she had some involvement with. Forty-eight hours later, we have not yet heard back. Welcome back to Candace. Okay, let's start with the major headline today.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Erica Kirk has been appointed to the Air Force Academy Board. Yeah. I'm here for it. I love it. That's what you need to know on this Tuesday morning. So you get back to work, Goyam. You'll be lucky if you ever pay off those student loans, pay down that mortgage. Erica Kirk, on the other hand, well, she's just being handed promotions.
Starting point is 00:02:08 In case you missed it, her husband died. So now she will be advising the Department of Defense. I don't know. With this appointment, Erica joins just 15 other members. That's how exclusive this board is. There's just 15 other members. And they are responsible, just so you understand what the job requires. They're responsible for making recommendations to the defense secretary, Pete Heggseth,
Starting point is 00:02:34 regarding changes to the Air Force Academy. They're also tasked with providing an annual report regarding the military institute's morale, its finances, its financial state, and its academics. Now, you might be wondering right now, how on earth is Erica Kirk? How did she really just graduate from an apparent stay-at-home mother to suddenly being qualified to submit financial, academic, and military morale reports to the Defense Secretary of the United States? And if you're wondering that, you should know that you are, you're everybody. We are all wondering this, but I don't know, guys. Her husband died. That's what I'm told.
Starting point is 00:03:16 We are just constantly being reminded that her husband died. Therefore, hey, she could be president one day. That's what Charlie said, allegedly. We just know, you know, so we can't see where he said it, but he did say it. He just happened to say that. She's going to be president one day. And some would say that, maybe it's starting to look like a Claire Underwood from House of Cards situation.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Maybe we don't feel so great about her ambition in this moment. But those people, you should dispel what they're saying. They would be wrong because the experts have explained things very clearly. And the experts say Erica is qualified because Charlie was qualified. She's literally just taking his place. Anything he can do, she can do better. Yeah, sure. Charlie was a literal boy genius, boy wonder, who had been militarily inclined since high school.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Remember, his plan initially was to get into West Point, but then he established Turning Point and it drove his life into a different direction. And sure, Charlie then built and ran that successful college campus student organization with chapters all across the nation. And sure, that organization earned him the ear of the president of the United States and every major political player in the country and world. And sure, that organization was taking $100 million in annually. But what? Like, it's hard? Erica's husband died. So now she's qualified to take his place.
Starting point is 00:04:44 That's how this works now. And that's what she's doing. Charlie, by the way, had himself earned that appointment. And there was backlash going, wait, this is a very big deal. We shouldn't be mixing politics with this. He had earned that appointment in March of 2025, so just six. months before he was assassinated. We can all therefore reasonably assume that his beauty pageant wife who makes t-shirts with biblical verses on them is going to bring the same level of
Starting point is 00:05:15 experience to this exclusive role because she's grieving. And the math on this is really simple. It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it at all. And do you want to know what I think? I think that why stop there? Why stop there? We're so far past ridiculous. I want to them to actually just accelerate things, why not just make Erica the defense secretary altogether? Why not just give her command and control over the army, the Air Force, Marines, the Space Force? I do not see a legitimate reason why Erica wasn't sitting to the left of Trump in the situation room when they bombed her on. That seems perfectly logical now. I mean, her husband was assassinated and she's a grieving widow. So, yeah, maybe she could provide counsel to the president
Starting point is 00:06:01 regarding this crucial operation Epstein Fury. That's what we're calling it. We know what this is really about. They're distracting us from the Epstein files and just doing whatever Israel wants, like always. Which brings me to Jeffrey Epstein in general. Speaking of Jeffrey Epstein, who was, in fact, an occult Jewish pedophile.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I wanted to show you this email. I had mentioned it yesterday. That took place between him and the princess of Norway. I had mentioned it because, well, I was casually, discussing how the real aims of these people is they just want less humans. The elites want less humans on Earth. They do not want us to be able to reproduce. They will give us whatever propaganda serves, whether you're left or right. And yeah, you're going to see this email that I'm going to show you to put it in its proper context. The lead up to this email is the two of them
Starting point is 00:06:55 discussing food and antibiotics, destroying living organisms. I'm very anti-antibiotic. We'll save that for another show. Anyways, this discussion ends with a mild celebration regarding how ultimately that's going to give them the power to just create humans. This is a conversation back in 2012, let's read it together. She writes, The Princess writes, You always make me smile because you tickle my brain, but I want the data from now, or the bill is mine. It is the cocktail of all of the unnaturals that have a profound effect on the early stages of development in humans. Soon, people won't be able to make new humans anymore. But I guess that would be La La Land Great because we can just design them in a lab. So futuristic. Design humans in a lab. I just think
Starting point is 00:07:46 it's really important for me to underscore you guys that left and right, that's, that That has always been the goal, less humans. To my lefties, truly, it was never about my body, my choice. Go down the Emma Goldman rabbit hole. Go down and understand who was behind Margaret Sanger. This was always about eugenics. The goal was eugenics. They view us all to be human weeds that need to be exterminated.
Starting point is 00:08:13 To my conservatives who, like me, truly believed that our military was out there spreading democracy all over the world because the West is the best and that this was going to these wars would in some way benefit us. Nope. I think now we can accept this was about just mowing the lawn, mass murdering people, also destroying history because they want like a forever present, a forever future almost. Like we did in Iraq, like we did in Afghanistan, destroying ancient civilizations with the added plus of stealing country resources that are going to help them further poison the general
Starting point is 00:08:52 goyum population. Poppy seeds for opiates, followed by an opioid crisis in America, got everybody addicted, encouraged them a killer offspring. Big pharma in a nutshell. Yes, it is also their ultimate goal with IVF. They want all of us to have to come to them, the government overlords to be able to have a family. A lot of women today are struggling with fertility issues. That's a real thing. And that is not by accident. That is by design.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So there was all of this panic yesterday on Lyme. The show was trending because we're beginning to discuss the occult. We're discussing mysticism. These people are literally summoning demons and they're making blood sacrifices. And now the world recognizes that. I think it's now a mainstreamed conversation, which is fantastic. And I wanted to follow up on that note and show you another. clip of Father Ripberger discussing this on Sean Ryan's podcast. He's on there discussing as an exorcist
Starting point is 00:09:50 the things that he has come across. It's a fantastic conversation. It's like four hours long. You should watch the entire thing. But in particular, in this clip, he's going to discuss how coming into contact for Masonry, essentially, and how people can raise the ranks through the occult families, how they get involved with these mystic cults in general. Anyway, Take a listen. If you are in the occult, do you just arrive at that level where you're doing satanic rituals, or do you graduate? Some graduate. Some are actually they're trained in this stuff from the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Sometimes they're actually groomed. They'll watch them in college or they'll watch them, and then they'll introduce them into this through various secret societies and things of that sort. They'll get them into engaging in the occult. There's a few of these people, not many of them, that are actually part of a pedigree or history that extends back to the late 1500s, 1600s, where the occult practices has been in their family lineage literally for three to 400 years. And so they're so proficient in the knowledge about how this stuff works and what is actually involved.
Starting point is 00:11:07 They know that there's demons and God, et cetera. they know that their activity in the occult is getting demons actually involved. They fully know that. In fact, their knowledge of this stuff is almost on the same level as mine. And so they have a full understanding of it, but they're on the side of evil. And so they tend to raise their children generation after generation within that particular occult set of practices. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's Suicide Crisis Helpline. It's good to know just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime. 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. That is exactly right, ladies and gentlemen. These bloodlines are ancient. These practices are ancient.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And the reason why they're constantly moving people all over the world is they don't want you to have this ancestral knowledge. They don't want you to know that they're doing the stuff in broad daylight. The revelation of the method. They're kind of telling you they're doing these things. More on that later. The point here is that Epstein was definitively of the mystic Frankest ilk. He was practicing mystical Judaism. There is no question about that.
Starting point is 00:12:25 It always involves occult rituals which involve harming innocent children. And regarding Jeffrey Epstein in particular, I want to throw it back to this tweet that I published on Thursday, January 29th of this year. It's really interesting in retrospect because I truly did not know what it might amount to. So the backstory here is that I had received a couple of emails from people that follow and watch the show at the White House. And they said, hey, Candace, Andrew Colbett, Mikey McCoy and a couple of women look like Mikey McCoy's white. They were in the West Wing. And, you know, we just thought that's kind of odd because Andrew just presented as though he was live on the Charlie Kirk show doing a phone call with Cash Patel. But actually, he's here.
Starting point is 00:13:10 He's in front of us here in Washington, D.C. on the other side of the country. So I followed up with them and I asked them specifically who was Andrew Colvette and allegedly Mikey McCoy and co meeting with. Could you guys ask around and figure us out where you saw them? And they said, well, and I'll quote this, the offices in that general region are senior White House staff. It could be Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller, James Braid, the vice president's hallway and the situation room connect to that lobby. So any number of people could have been in there, a cash, the NSA director, Pete, The cabinet meeting had just let out 15 minutes prior to, so that also adds any members of the cabinet. I know what to make of this, right?
Starting point is 00:13:52 So I just instantly put the information out there, and this is what I tweeted. I tweeted just in case. I said tweeting this in case it's relevant down the line, two days ago, Thursday, Blake Neff and Andrew Colbert hosted Cash Patel on Charlie Kirk's show. It appeared as though Cash phoned into the show live, but he did not. Andrew Colvert was actually in the West Wing. in D.C. that day, taking a meeting with top brass. The episode was pre-recorded.
Starting point is 00:14:19 People in the White House and all around the world think Andrew is shady and intentionally wanted the public to think that he was in Arizona for some reason. So they asked me to release his information. The next bit is unconfirmed, but they believe Andrew was accompanied by Mikey McCoy and his wife Elizabeth. If you see something, say something. Okay, so I share that. And what struck me as immediately odd
Starting point is 00:14:38 was that Andrew Colvette and allegedly Mikey McCoy and his wife were making an effort to fake alive on Charlie Kirk's show with none other than Mr. 33 Cash Patel. Like, why do that at all? In that particular episode that they had with Cash Patel, Cash called in and it was all very performative. I never do this. I never call.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It's like, you guys are like together in D.C. What are we doing here? I had also replied on January 29th, which you can find this tweet to someone. And I said, like, hey, I'm trying to figure out why Andrew Colvett's in the White. House. Now, Andrew, the reason why this also should stand out to is because Andrew has missed plenty of episodes of the Charlie Kirk Show. Sometimes it's just Blake Neff. Sometimes it's just, you know, it's Blake and Mikey. Sometimes it's a guest host. Sometimes when traveling, Andrew even calls in for a segment, but this was for some reason pre-recorded and intentionally presented to the
Starting point is 00:15:32 public as though it was live. I never do this. So I thought through that and I said, a fair assumption is that they did not want people to know that they were taking a meeting at the White House. And that's a very unusual desire for Turning Point USA, right? They normally love to promote the fact that they are involved with Trump, throwing flashy events at the White House, Mar-a-Lago, posing, all glammed up. So then I had asked myself, well, what in particular was it about this meeting on this day
Starting point is 00:16:00 in the West Wing that they wanted to fly under the radar? What could have been the subject that they wanted to fly under the radar? I wasn't sure. Like I said, felt important enough to tweet about it just in case. And lo and behold, the very next day on January 30th, the Epstein files were released. And I thought, oh, how precise. Is it possible that the meeting was related to the Epstein files, which are heavily redacted and obviously not complete? And said to myself, well, you know, Erica was heavily involved in the passion tree world, really her whole life. Trump was also heavily involved
Starting point is 00:16:39 in the pageantry world. More specifically, Donald Trump was actually the 50% owner of Miss America alongside NBC Universal when Erica was crowned. And Trump and Epstein's relationship, to be sure,
Starting point is 00:16:53 seemed to be centered around pageantry and the modeling world and parties. There was even a lawsuit that was filed back in 1997 over a pageant company wherein one of the guys had said that during a meeting for his company,
Starting point is 00:17:09 that Jeffrey Epstein was there, which is kind of an honorable mention. So, okay, Trump has never denied that he hung out with Epstein. He said, I never went to the island, but there are obviously photos. So that's interesting. And I want to make sure you understand what Jeffrey Epstein did, how he was trafficking. It's important to remember that Jeffrey Epstein was specifically trafficking women from Eastern Europe through modeling agencies. Okay?
Starting point is 00:17:33 So it's a great cover, whether he was working with Victoria Secrets, you know, Les Wexner hands him the keys, and all of a sudden he's like a casting director looking at all of these models. John Luke Brunel in Paris, his agency, MC2 modeling. John Luke Brunel kills himself. Nemea doesn't want to mention the fact that they also had offices in Tel Aviv. John Luke Brunel did. And that's how he was accomplishing it, because when you see a lot of women at a modeling agency, you don't go, oh, maybe these women are being trafficked from Europe.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Maybe these women are, you know, not actually happy to be here. Maybe they're in some danger, right? It's like the illusion when there's just a lot of models in any event, whether it's a pageant, anything else, is that this is normal because it's just the world of fashion or the world of beauty or the world of modeling. Okay. So, Tori's Secret, he's been casting for.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And also when you go through his emails, it seems like he's also hand-picking girls for certain pageants. And I've read through some of them. Like he had clearly a very strong relationship with the Miss North Carolina one year. I thought, okay, maybe still another coincidence, right? Erica's in pageant world, Trump's in pageant world, Epstein's in pageant world-ish. Then we took a week off to investigate Erica, and I was even more stunned by some more coincidences, and I'm going to run you through them here.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Okay, so in 2010, we know Jeffrey Epstein, based on the emails, begins procuring models from Romania. We also know that that's the same time and year at the Black Sea Rotational Force in Constanta, Romania, is being led by Erica's cousin. Lieutenant Colonel Dennis Fransfei, it's the first time America is operating a base in Romania, which is later going to be accused of prostituting underage Romanian children. Brothel, Colonel Otto Buescher. Same time frame, Tyler Boyer goes out to Constante, Romania, and he's hanging out. out and he's partying and he's drinking with Romanian models and parliament politicians. Then Tyler is going to return from Romania around September of 2010. Makes sense because he was attending Arizona State University.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So school's got to get going. And then that same year, Jeffrey Epstein begins giving money to Arizona State University, specifically for their origins project. Okay. Four months after that, Erica, and this is now into 2011, of, I'm sorry, in May of 2011, Tyler Boyer is going to get unusually elected to the Board of Regents. And I say unusually because the governor, he kind of didn't go through the normal process. And the governor just decides Tyler Boyer's the guy.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And then four months beyond that, Erica is going to enroll into ASU for her final year of college from 2011, 2012, and 2012. And immediately two months after that, after the semester began, she wins Miss Arizona, USA, right, in November. And right after winning, we know she's going to establish this working partnership with the U.S. Marines Black Sea Rotational Force in Constanta, teaming up with them to run the Romanian Angels project through her 501C3 everyday heroes. She's going to go out to Constanta. She's working with Colonel Otto Buescher, that same colonel who's going to be accused of trafficking and prostituting underage Romanians, apparently up and through Tel Aviv. And I do want to also say about that, in general, why did she partner? partner with the U.S. Marines at all. That's not a requirement. Okay, I went to Romania twice. My best friend was Romanian and actually lived her family, like she grew up here, but her family lived in Constanta. You can just go do charity. You don't have to team up with the U.S. Marines. This is a EU member state. Okay. You don't need the protection of U.S. Marines to be in Romania and decide that you want to drop off some Christmas gifts. Really, you just need an address to do that.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But for some reason, this particular charity felt that they needed to team up with the U.S. Marines. I just want to point, no one's really recognized that. You don't need to do that. I can go do charity anywhere in Europe right now. It doesn't demand a partnership with the U.S. Marines. It's very strange. Then we have in 2014-2015, Erica begins tweeting that she's a casting director or casting recruiter in Los Angeles the same time
Starting point is 00:21:57 She's kind of trying to break into the industry herself, which we've shown. And I also want to say that during this time that she's trying to get involved in reality TV, we find her floating around Mark Burnett. Mark Burnett is also running Mark Burnett productions. He's running Trump's Apprentice show. A lot of synergy happening around this time. I do believe it. Erica knew Donald Trump before she ever met Charlie Kirk. I think that's honestly evident.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And so it really makes you wonder if this kind of brings in cold. that because Cairo's company is working with Mark Burnett via Johnny Moore. It's very weird around this time frame. But it's this next little time frame that I want to get to you guys on. All right. So I'll tell you how I got this information. I had received a tip a while ago saying, hey, you know, their next model management in New York City, Faith Kate, who was the co-founder of I had to step down because of her involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. She's like, in his emails like 4,000 times, even after he got arrested for pedophilia,
Starting point is 00:23:01 she's like, I will never betray you. I will never ever betray you. Like, you know, I've got your back to the end. She had, she was very close. I mean, look, she's inviting him here and his email to her son's bar mitzvah. And this person said, just so you know, Erica was involved
Starting point is 00:23:20 with next model management, right? So this is a tip. And this person did not work with next model management. So I was like, okay, tip, I'll see where it leads, you know, kind of investigating things. I kind of reach into some old contact cards. I'm going, that would be very curious
Starting point is 00:23:34 because Next Model Management apparently had tons of Eastern European girls all around the office. And like I said, you can look more into the Faith Kate's thing, but it's not great. It's not great. The relationship that Faith Kate's had with Jeffrey Epstein, Eastern European models all around Next Model Management Office. He was helping this model agency in particular.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And so I decided to see if I could. get some more people to verify that Erica was involved. What was she doing? Was she modeling? No. Well, I was able to confirm it, not just once, not twice, three times, four times with people with direct knowledge that Erica Kirk was a multiple times, taking office, taking meetings at Next Model Management and dealing with the people like the suits that would surround Faith Kate's, people like Jeffrey Epstein. Now, they did not say they saw her meeting with Jeffrey Epstein. But they said essentially Jeffrey Epstein was always there because he was so close with faith. And this cannot be denied. You can go through their emails. They're very close. And so he would sometimes come in and he would take a meeting.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And so he would just kind of, when you're friends with someone, I'm going to take an office and nobody knew what the context of these meetings were. They are saying that in meetings like that, meaning Erica was not there because of a modeling contract or because they don't know why she was there. They don't know why Erica was in that same category of suits, right? Of just like suits and they were not to ask questions and Erica is there and she's taking meetings at next model management. So now feeling 100% certain that this information was real, like I said, confirming it four ways, I decided to go out and ask Erica what she was doing there. Because if people with intimate knowledge situation don't know what she was doing there, that's not great, right? what are the chances? What does Erica have to do
Starting point is 00:25:26 with Next Model Management? What is she doing there? And I went out to her and I, of course, copied the spokesperson Andrew Colbert and I said, you know, what specifically were you doing at Next Model Management
Starting point is 00:25:37 in New York City? What's up? What are you doing? Did you run into Epstein? I just want to know, like, what is your relationship with faith? How about that? What, give me the context of this.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Crickets. I feel like that would be a very easy, email to answer one question. What is the context of your relationship with next model management? We've now confirmed that you were taking meetings here. What was the nature of those meetings? And I mentioned, you know, like, you know, she's obviously kind of falling out with regarding. She had to step down because of the Epstein emails and she retired. You said it's like the nice way I'm deciding to retire. And nothing. Wouldn't you just answer that instantly? Like if someone just emailed me and it against, what is the context? You know, your ASU.
Starting point is 00:26:23 you got Romania going on, you know, this modeling agency. And they said, like, there were constantly Eastern European models all over the office. I mean, like, it was just everywhere. And Epstein would just come all the time. Like, you know, this was his friend.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Why wouldn't he come into his friend's office? Wouldn't you, like, rank that really high in terms of just giving a comment and being like, oh, I was there for, I don't know, I don't know what would be an appropriate answer. I literally don't know what we appropriate I don't know why she'd be there but wouldn't you just offer that answer
Starting point is 00:26:56 if there was a good answer I find it to be very strange I find that to be very strange especially when we now add in the fact going back to the way that she's dancing around Epstein pageant world Romania ASU
Starting point is 00:27:14 now we have next model management specifically and real estate we can't get an answer on that Erica being the busiest person in the world in 2018, receiving degrees, starting and running a business, a clothing company, also taking interviews with Turning Point because she's going to help them, but then falling in love with Charlie. She also unusually receives her New York real estate license to work with Quarkren real estate. And that is under the sewardship, the stewardship of Pam Lehman featured in the Epstein Files, was helping him with real estate deals. but also we can't find any real estate deals that Erica completed in New York.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And real estate agents are reaching out to me saying, you can't just get a license and work for Corcoran. That's not how the real estate world works. I guess they have certain requirements. They're like, this is backdoor stuff. Somebody just made that happen for her. And there does, like I said, does not appear to be any record of her having completed that. But we do then learn via Jeffrey Epstein's emails,
Starting point is 00:28:17 the president of the Corcoran group is actually Linda Rothsch, child. And Jeffrey F. Seen is working directly for the Rothschild. He himself is saying that Corkren Real Estate Group is all over his emails. Okay. Says it right there. Someone read a background on Linda Rothschild. It has all of her different names that she uses and also has her listed as the president of the Corkman Group. What was Erica doing for the Corkman Group? Who got her that job? Who recalls sitting with Erica for her real estate license? Is that, is it, do you do it online? I don't know. I'm ignorant about real estate license. I will say that. But I do know that there is a general understanding that if you want to move money, real estate is a very good way to do that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 It's a very good way to do that. It's a good cover if you're trying to move money. Real estate's a very productive means to do that. And I am starting to have just how many times can her life path keep intersecting with Jeffrey Epstein before it's weird? Her relationship with Trump, Trump just like, here, here, here. Something is not feeling right. Jeffrey, we got him gaslighting us. We got Andrew Colva. We got this meeting at the White House that they didn't brag about.
Starting point is 00:29:31 They love the photos. They love the photo ops. They're there the day, the evening before, and they're in the West Wing. They met with someone very important about, like, hey, can't you just come out and say what you were meeting about? What was the context of that meeting? I would like to know. I mean, you guys are saying everything else. Something is not right.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I, well, that's almost redundant at this point, the fact that something is not right with Erica, but I would like an answer as to what specifically Erica was doing, sitting down in offices with suits at the next model management company. I think that's a very simple question to ask. There may be a very simple answer. We will see. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, thanks to you last year, preborn helped to rescue over 80,000 babies,
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Starting point is 00:32:03 Join hundreds of thousands of customers in one simple routine that's changing the world. Again, that's balance of nature.com. I will say the entire Erica story feels like, as I refer to on the show as the might as touch. Somebody's just pulling her through the ranks at all times. I don't know if she's even smart, but they're telling us that she's like the brightest in the entire world and that she's doing it all. And no one can even confirm that she did graduate Sumakun Loud from ASU. But by the way, she has since removed that from her bio. she is slated to speak at Hillsdale College,
Starting point is 00:32:39 and the students have all messaged me about it because they don't want her there. And they similarly just feel like she's just being hoisted upon them. And you just go, the woman I'm speaking to, like that we're listening, rather, to her speak, is not a super genius.
Starting point is 00:32:56 She didn't have to guess whether Charlie Kirk was a genius. You know what I mean? But they're just like, she is. She's so qualified, hyperqualified. We can't show you where on the resume where she's qualified or how you go from like modeling agencies and dating reality shows and pageantry to where she is now
Starting point is 00:33:13 the Department of Defense. No one can explain that and they don't even care to. It's giving Jeffrey Epstein when he just like becomes a math teacher and someone's pulling him from the ranks and that someone is Bill Barr, right, who gives him that job because he's running that school. Something's just really weird about everything. And I also wanted to tell you this is kind of happening on X right now, at Turning Point, tried to remove it from the podcast.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They did actually remove it from the podcast, but not before the internet grabbed it. It's this clip of Blake Neff. He's one of my favorite characters because he always just says too much and it's never good. And Blake Neff is explained on Charlie Kirk's show earlier today
Starting point is 00:33:52 that Erica says that Charlie, if he had a chance, if he had a choice, he would stay dead. Take it away, Blake Neff. Blake Any thoughts? No, it's
Starting point is 00:34:10 Erica said that if Charlie was given the choice to undo what happened and come back, he wouldn't, she thought, because of what was unleashed by it. They've since, we tried to get, like, the folk clip, but they've since removed that. And Blake is like, that's just because of the faith revolution.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And, like, he's just, he would be so happy to see that people are being driven toward churches that he would pick... If he was in heaven and given him, he would just say, I'm just going to stay here and I'm going to let my kids grow up without a father and really without a mother because everything seems to be going according to some more divine plan. And Erica has taken my spot everywhere. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Let's talk about it. Let's actually talk about September 8th because I now feel like now that we've learned more about Erica, the Fort Huachuca story, I'm leaning towards Mitch. Allegedly, Erica, he saw her on September 8th. Fort Wachuka, it caused mass panic. They spent tons of money, getting people to attack me. And that now, with everything we know about the way Erica moves, didn't really know in the beginning how to feel,
Starting point is 00:35:17 but I'd like to add, I guess, just some more data points to September 8th. Now, remember Erica's claim before they sent me a cease-and-assist was that she was making dinner for Charlie that night, but no one else has been able to independently confirm that. Frank Tarrick does make the call. claim that Charlie had dinner with his family. But he doesn't mention Erica. He doesn't say his wife. And I find that to be interesting because I think Frank Turrick is actually a smarter person involved in this. He hasn't made the same mistakes as everybody else. He says just enough.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So this could just as easily mean that Charlie had dinner with the kids. That's my, the vibe that I get from September 8th. We're going to go through this timeline is that Charlie was the parent that night. Listen to what Frank Turich. Eric had to say. You know, the last walk we went on, Megan, was Monday night. So the terrible day was Wednesday. And so we spent some time Monday. And then we both went to dinner. He wanted to have dinner with the family, which is, he's a family man. So he said, hey, can you come back at about eight? We'll go on a walk. I said, yeah, okay. So I came back down at eight. And I, um, uh, I texted him. I said, okay, I'm, I'm about here. He said, coming out. And then a minute later, he said,
Starting point is 00:36:35 said shortly, Gigi just got up. So he was obviously taking care of the baby, taking care of his daughter, because that's the kind of person he was. And then we went on this long walk, and there were two major issues that kept coming up that he wanted to be better at. So we received an email, which made this even more interesting. I don't even know how I missed this, but they said, Candace, Charlie on September 8th was very obviously watching the Bears football. game is a massive Chicago Bears fan. Everybody knows that. And it was like kind of always this feature on his show of him being upset with the chronic upsets that comes apparently with being a Chicago Bears fan. And he recounted with remarkable detail at least, and this is, again, I'm happy to yield an air on
Starting point is 00:37:26 a side of caution, but I think we can confidently state that Charlie definitively watched the second half of that game glued to his screen. Take a listen to Charlie discusses. the Bears game on September 8th. Blake is such a Packers fan. He said, what should we talk about? We'll talk about the Bears. I'm not talking about the Bears, okay? You see, I even put in my group chat.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I said, the Bears are winning by 14 points. This is a very strange thing. I don't know how to handle it. The Bears put on a master class one of the worst coach games in the history of football. It was so bad. They challenge in the second.
Starting point is 00:37:59 You never do this in the second half. You should be smacked across the face. He challenged what was not even a close call. of Noah Sewell, you know, with a fumble, what happens when you lose a challenge? You lose a timeout. So you lose a timeout, you need to stop the clock. And they only have two timeouts left,
Starting point is 00:38:15 and they can't do that. And then some rocket scientist on the bears, I'm screaming at my TV, I woke up of everyone. They decide, well, you know, we have to kick the ball and it was like two minutes and two seconds left, okay? And they're down by three points, two minutes, two seconds left. So with two minutes and two seconds left,
Starting point is 00:38:32 you have to make sure that the ball eater goes, out of bounds, or that you kick it off so they can't do a turn. You only have one timeout left. Why does that matter? Well, because then the two-minute warning stops the clock, and that is a built-in timeout for when the Vikings run the ball inevitably. What do they do? They allow the Vikings to return the ball.
Starting point is 00:38:49 They're basically ending the game. I don't think there's any question that Charlie watched the second half of that game, and he says he was screaming at his TV. Okay? So we are now able to tighten up that schedule on September 8th. I'm going to show you guys that what we have here. here going on. First and foremost, I do want to note that that article appears in the Jezebel. Jezebel.com regarding the witches cursed placed on Charlie's life. That was at 9.49 a.m.
Starting point is 00:39:18 All of this is in Arizona time, just to be clear, 949 a.m. that article appears in Jezebel regarding a witch's curse that was placed on Charlie. Exactly one hour later to the minute, Erica breaks her years-long Twitter silence, and she tweets out a Bible verse, Ephesians, for by grace you have been saved through faith. Okay. At 10 o'clock a.m., Charlie appears from his home studio live on Charlie Kirk. That is what, uh, that's a different episode, not the one that we just watched. At 10.45 a.m. Lori Franz Faye has an appointment at the clinic and Charlie allegedly meets up with her, accompanies her. Uh, these appointments apparently run for an hour. Uh, so Charlie and Lori are together. From four o'clock to five o'clock p.m. Uh, Charlie, uh, Charlie.
Starting point is 00:40:07 appears from his home studio on the Ingram angle. There was that notorious picture going around where Charlie looked angry, like he was looking off to the side. Well, he's got to be looking at Frank Turek. I would suspect, based on this timeline, that Frank Tarrick was with him. That would track that he's,
Starting point is 00:40:25 because it's getting tight now. The game is about to kick off. Eric is about her alibi is going to be. She arrived home. And so, yeah, you guys, everyone investigating this should now copy this timeline. I think Frank Turek was with Charlie. I'm not saying Charlie was angry at Frank,
Starting point is 00:40:42 but they, like, I still don't believe Frank's story that they went on a walk to talk about pointers about how Charlie would debate and a college. I just never bought that, that he was just suddenly in need of so much debate help. I think there was something going on. There was some sort of a crisis that required Charlie speaking to a rabbi, a pastor, and a priest within 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I think that that's a fairer assumption to make. Erica, and again, Frank has never said these portions about dinner. He says dinner with the family. But Erica will allege that she arrives home at 524. And then at 541, Charlie is allegedly, as she's coming up, she's already upstairs, Charlie then's allegedly going to text her and ask her what time dinner is. Despite being in close quarters, Erica is then, because, you know, it's a very small apartment, wake Gigi up by opening a fridge in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Charlie is then going to text Erica and ask, like I said, what time dinner is, and then Erica is going to text Charlie that dinner is ready, so it was a fast dinner. I have to fit in everything. And then you can kind of see we've gone through and went back to the game, followed people's tweets of when exactly Noah Sewell forced a fumble on TJ. That's what he's talking about there. And you can see that this timeline is starting to tighten up. So I wanted to share this with you because I have a strong inkling, and it's not a fact.
Starting point is 00:42:06 but it is a strong inkling that Charlie was at home alone with the kids. That is why when he woke Gigi up, it would track that he went to have dinner with his kids and his quote-unquote family. And that is why when he was shouting at the TV, which would, in fact, wake a toddler up around when is he shouting at the challenge around 716, that he then screaming at the game, whatever, whenever Gigi wakes up, he then tells Frank, hold up because the Chicago game is on, which Frank hasn't mentioned that, which I find to be interesting. It might be a talking point of why he was running late. But this is a, it's getting interesting. It's definitely getting interesting. That game ended at 8.30. So he definitely was not walking with Charlie 8 o'clock because he is very clear that he was screaming. And then he comes down a little bit late. Charlie is then going to be seen at 9 o'clock walking with his bodyguard Heath and a
Starting point is 00:43:06 accompanied by a tall man who is not Frank Turek. So locals did not see Frank Turek on this walk with Charlie. They did see Charlie on a walk. He stopped. He spoke with his neighbor for a few minutes about his upcoming tour, said hello to the dog. Yeah. My suspicion is Frank was there for some reason. You don't just like sort of invite a pastor over and then say come back.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And there's something going on. There's something going on. And I think Frank would know the answer. I think Frank could answer, by the way. I will get an email out to him as to whether or not he was the person that was in Charlie's studio when he looks off to the left before the Laura Ingram hit. And I think Frank could actually answer whether or not Erica was home. Yes or no question. Was Erica home? Did you see Erica? Nobody yet, and I will keep putting out an APB for September 8th for Erica Kirk. No one can confirm seeing her anywhere. And she was very well-known in this neighborhood. Charlie's entire family is well-known. People will tell me when they see the kids.
Starting point is 00:44:05 kids, who they saw the kids with, that they saw the kids with Tracy Martin's husband. I mean, you could say any person, they know because Charlie Kirk was a celebrity. It was a fixture. So they knew his family, they knew his kids. And no one can confirm it. They saw Eric Kirk on the 8th. And I'm troubled by that. Even anywhere when they went to go pick up the food from the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I don't know. Given how much she pathologically lies and given how aggressive the campaign was when we merely mentioned Fort Huachuca. and I had not yet dropped the fact that he thought he saw Erica. We were actually holding that back. And then she does this tour and gets like real aggressive and stop, just stop. My vibes, my spidey senses are telling me that Erica was not there on the eighth. I find her pretending not to understand the instructions or the middle person,
Starting point is 00:44:59 oh, what we're trying to get to confirm that this text correspondence really took. place between her and Charlie and not her and somebody else or two other people. I just, I don't buy it. I don't buy anything really that Erica says. She lies a lot. And I think we've proven that thus far. Anyway, we'll take a break here and I'll answer some of your questions. All right, you guys, if you are looking to get ahead of your spring cleaning this year, I know right where you should begin, go drag your old wireless contract out of the closet and toss it in the trash, then freshen things up by switching to Pure Talk, which is my wireless company. Pure Talk gives you unlimited talk, text, and plenty of data for just 25 bucks a month with no contract,
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Starting point is 00:47:02 where it's just weird for the people who, like, came out of the gate defending her. Yeah, they were like, okay, she's a grieving widow, and it's like, she's a grieving widow. Then you kind of have to, like, put your head down and be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:47:14 she really is grieving differently, differently, like with the Department of Defense and just taking her husband's place. That's why you should, you should never rush to defend something that you know is wrong, right? Because eventually it's going to catch up with you. Everyone knew it was wrong. Everyone knew the way she was moving wasn't right. It's better to actually stay quiet if you're not sure, which was me. I was like, I'm going to be quiet. I just don't want to feel the way that I feel every time she opened her mom. I didn't like
Starting point is 00:47:44 the whispering too. Like there's a lot of whispering she does. That is like, he knows. He knows. Like I don't, some of that felt a little bit performative to me, but it's like, you You know what? That's not, that's a opinion. It's a fact. And the facts followed. Facts followed the vibes that we were getting, and that's why you should never. You just wait, be patient, allow the truth to reveal itself. It always does. I am going to get to, actually, what was our number one comment from yesterday's episode? Do we have that? Do we pull that yet? All right. Number one episode, number one comment from yesterday's episode, I cherish this freedom of expression. Its loss reveals the extent to which the French people in France are under the thumb of the elite
Starting point is 00:48:27 and for a very long time. That was our number one, this is no way, this is the number one comment. Oh, from our French channel. Ah, okay. I was like, I really don't think, okay, wonderful. That's amazing. It's great to have, we do have a channel that is in French. So there you go. A number one comment from our English channel is I prayed for a sign as to whether to join the military or not today. And I got my sign. Thank you, Candice. God bless you. I will not be dying for Israel. I am so glad that I could do something productive. It's just, I just don't even understand why people are dying overseas at all. Our country, like I said, is in decline. And it's very obvious that the priority is just to say. serve Israel and that will be Trump's legacy, sadly. And I love how they're trying to, you can't just betrayed Trump. No, Trump betrayed Trump. Trump betrayed MAGA. That is what happened. Everyone can see that now. Everything he is doing is the opposite of what he said he would do. And yeah, you would actually prove yourself to just be a moron if you think that the literal never Trump movement, which is now applauding his every move, is somehow at all reflective of original MAGA. That's just that's so beyond ridiculous. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I let's see some comments that you have for today's episode a ham you I don't know how to say your name I'm sorry ham am you laric Don I love the fierce passion that you have for truth everyone has a growth arc I love seeing your mind and your views mature in conversations I see that others want to trust your sincerity but feel that you helped push the culture war fed slop distractions in the past too your honest thoughts here I've been giving you my honest thoughts I was a part of it I did see it as just a problem with the left. That's the whole point. That's why I say, this is our perspective on the right, and this is your perspective on the left. And it's now become very clear to me. And I would say, especially after Charlie Kirk's assassination, how this really works. And yeah, I've been honest about everything. I was number one person wearing a MAGA hat, thinking that Trump was going to bring forth change, you know, and I took, I caught a lot of bullets. And I think that that's kind of been the biggest disappointment is that he didn't, at the end of the day, we just got it wrong with him. Or I don't know if it's just this time around, if this is who he is after the assassination.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I don't know. But I don't regret learning. I don't regret growing. And I can say without question, I have always been honest. So I never said something that I didn't believe. And sometimes with more information, you learn more. I mean, learning about Sigmund Freud, I just ripped me into a new reality in terms of how the world really works. The Brigitte story ripped me into a new reality because I didn't care about the left and the right in that moment.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Because I was talking about France. I don't even know what is their left and their right. It was just, wow, this is really strange. This is like a cult. And why is the entire mainstream media apparatus conspiring to hide this very obvious fact? And it just brought me to a different place that kind of sat outside of politics, which I'm happy about. Thank you for that question. Mary Garcia writes, for many years, I have learned about spiritual warfare from Father Ripperger's books and conferences.
Starting point is 00:51:27 What I learned is that demons mutilate to the absurdity. Militate. Militate to the absurdity. That's what I see happening with this whole Turning Point USA Eric's situation. God bless you, Candice. I think you meant Turning Point USA, Erica situation. Yeah, there's a lot to look at. I definitively think that people naturally felt a spiritual ick. There's an element of this that you don't even need to learn. You don't need to be a professor of theology. It's innate. And that kind of gets into the intentional push, as we discussed yesterday, toward empiricism, rationality,
Starting point is 00:52:05 scientific method, is because they're basically saying, ignore your gut, ignore that thing that comes online and tells you all of this is wrong. And we should stop doing that. We should stop ignoring our gut. There is so much more,
Starting point is 00:52:16 and they know that there's so much more. They're playing with demons. Amy loves music rights. You have shown Erica's lineage. She is conditioned through her mother and the military. I'm excited about Trump, but over Kamala,
Starting point is 00:52:28 who wouldn't be? Now the Epstein files, I'm so disappointed in all of government. How do we fix it? God bless you for opening so many eyes. I think you meant that you were excited about Trump over Kamala. Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't have been better with Kamala. And I don't want people to think that it's it either or.
Starting point is 00:52:42 It's just not. And Kamala actually reminds me a lot of Erica when we got into the Kamala Chronicles where I was like, I don't even think she remembers what she said yesterday. It's like she's on autopilot and somebody is just downloading new data into her. And they're like, this is your grandma. She's like, that's my grandma. And there's no explanation for the lack of consistency. So, and then we kind of learned that her mother was involved with potentially the MK Ultra projects.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Like her mother was a scientist. Don't quote me on that. I can't remember up this exact moment. But she was definitively working at a university. I think she was a scientist. I think that's accurate. And also a psychologist and a lot of weird stuff there. And yeah, we're learning a lot in the process.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Angela writes, your tenacity and charisma in the face of the constant barrage of attempts to subvert your power are unparalleled. Thank you for speaking the truth, no matter the risks to pull back the wool from the eyes of the world in all the lies. Christ is king. Christ is king indeed. He already won. So be excited. I mean, they are starting to look like demons. They're like lashing out, thrashing around like demons. They're so angry. And that's how I know we're winning. They're just, they're absurd. They're so crazy right now. They're like, this person's under psychosis. Tucker must be stopped. They're just enraged at all times. I feel that that means we are very much winning. We should be happy. We should be aware that eyes are being awakened globally to what's going on. And yeah, truth is, that is the antidote.
Starting point is 00:54:15 They can't beat it. They can't defeat it. They all, they're so used to lies. And that's why I encourage people not to just know a truth, but to speak the truth, because that seems the counteract their attempts that spells. They're constantly six feet social distancing, six feet. And then, you know, you really can just crash through. We can be a bull in a China shop and just say the truth. And you just see them completely come apart. And they want censorship. And that's what they're demanding now.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Do I think they're going to grow increasingly violent? Yes, they have shown. Look, the whole point of kind of pledging into that cult is you, if you're willing to harm a child, you'll harm anybody, right? That's the point. That's the, when you learn what they believe in, through the darkness light, that's what they think. They're like, okay, well, you now have shown that there's no such.
Starting point is 00:54:59 thing as innocence and rules and we are our own gods and we define the rules. Again, that gets more into what we discuss on our book club. You should learn about Sebastianism. You should learn about Frankism, learn about the Frankist movement that they've tried to bury. And everything else will become, I think, more clear to you. Anyway, I want to let you know if you want to support our independent work, you can head to our website with such great new merch all over the website. We always show you the same section, but I swear there's more. There's stuff everywhere. where really cool stuff. And it's the easiest way to support us. And also, like I say, pray for Tucker Carlson, pray for Megan Kelly, pray for, you know, Carrie Pre-Jean Baller, people that are like me,
Starting point is 00:55:43 absorbing a lot of these bullets, but like me, also happy warriors. I think that everyone is kind of saying enough is enough. This bullying has to stop and we're not going to side with evil because they're threatening to take everything away from us. We can't do that. God's people, the truly chosen people, don't do that when demons come, shrieking. you guys, we can also sign up for a subscription. We have merged the tiers into one club Candace tier for 1199, 1199 a month. And yeah, book club is great. It's a lot of fun and we get to go a lot deeper. Oh, a note from my producer. Blake Neff responded and said they did not cut out the portion of him discussing Erica and her insinuation that Charlie would want to still be dead if he
Starting point is 00:56:28 had the option because of the faith movement. And so he says that we fact-checked that. And the full Trailer-Kirk podcast episode still has Blake Neff's comments, but it is cut out on the Twitter stream, which is where we initially saw it. So they cut out of the Twitter stream. It is still available on the Rumble site, just to make sure that we are always being accurate. We don't ever need to be inaccurate or make things up because they give us plenty of content every day anyway with their absurdity. I do love when Blake Neff does decide to respond, by the way.
Starting point is 00:57:01 We're saying a lot here. We're saying a lot here. But we want you to know that they did not cut anything out of the Rumble stream. So there's that. You will see you guys tomorrow.

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