Candace - EXCLUSIVE: Taylor Swift Will Be Deposed. | Candace Ep 150

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

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No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. All right, guys. Happy Friday. I have a major scoop for you. This is going to be a fun Friday because it's regarding Taylor Swift and the Lively lawsuit, which is just, I'm obsessed with it. I am so sorry. Basically, a protection order was filed and agreed to last night by all parties. They're just waiting for the judge to sign off on it. And I can tell you right now that depositions are coming. It is a fact, an absolute fact. Also, in the wildest, most pathetic, most dishonest and cowardly response ever to the Becoming Brigitte

series, President Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte Macron have their goons coming out and saying that they never received my letter back to them. My letter back to them with the 21 questions, which they replied to with the preservation order. Absolutely insane. What can I say other than Brigitte Macron has got some balls. Welcome back to Candace. All right, guys, Taylor Swift, she is getting to post. It is happening. It is happening. Everybody stay calm, okay? So yesterday, as I mentioned, yesterday evening, again at 11.02 p.m., I don't know why Blake Lively's team likes to file these things late in the day, knowing that I'm monitoring things and I can't stay up that late, but they filed a protective order and I at first looked

at it and I thought that they had done this by themselves, but actually it looks like it was agreed to by both parties to protect some of the things that may come up in discovery and through all of these subpoenas. Now, my lawyer told me that this is actually pretty standard. My poor lawyer, who I call all the time asking questions about this case, and he tells me that I'm not a party in the case at all, but he's got to give me legal advice anyways. This is a pretty standard thing that happens in commercial cases. And it's really just a measure that's used to protect business interests. So I'm giving you guys a really bad analogy here. But let's say I'm in court and I'm fighting with Chase Bank about something. And all of this is obviously public. And we move together for the judge to seal certain aspects

because we don't need those things to become public fodder. So maybe it's like my account statements. Like, why does the public need to know if I'm waking up every day and buying Starbucks coffee? Whatever it is, it's just irrelevant to the public. And so that's what they're doing. They're trying to say, OK, there might be some things that come out that are not relevant to the public. But the language here in this protection order I found to be very interesting. And at first it made me think instantly of Taylor Swift. So we're going to pull this up. I'm calling this like the Taylor Swift clause in the protection order. It says the person producing any given discovery material may designate it as confidential or attorney's eyes only. Only such portion of such material, the public disclosure of which

is either restricted by law or will cause harm to the business, commercial, financial, or personal interests of the producing person and or a third party, including high profile individuals to whom a duty of confidentiality is owed. I don't know why they are, I don't know why we owe these high profile people confidentiality. And that consists of a previously non-disclosed financial information, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, you get it. So I'm thinking this means like we're not going to be able to read these Taylor Swift text messages.

We're not going to be able to read or they're going to like seal her deposition. Turns out I am completely wrong because I have it on very good authority that Taylor Swift is going to get subpoenaed and she is going to be deposed and she is up first. They want her first. They have heard the public pleas and essentially we're just we're going to get it. We are finally going to get what we want. And this is a very, very, very big deal. And I'll tell you why. First and foremost, with my non-legal expertise, as I have said from the very beginning, smartest possible move for Justin Baldoni's team to make. I've said deposer. I wasn't sure they were going to do it because Brian Friedman was asked about it by Harvey Levin on TMZ, and he said, well, we don't know. We'll see which way this case goes. And I'm going,

what do you mean you don't know? That would be like the very first thing I would do. I would depose Taylor Swift against Blake Lively because first and foremost, no matter how you feel about Taylor Swift, you have to recognize and respect the fact that she is a machine, okay? She is an absolute machine. She will do everything to protect her image. In other words, Blake and Ryan will wind up fighting a real dragon, okay? A real dragon that has an army of teenagers that are behind her. And it is my professional opinion that she was very much involved. She was involved in this circumstance and that currently her team is lying to the public. I kept saying they are clearly lying to the public and trying to signal Justin Baldoni's team, like, look, we have nothing

to do with this. We're not friends with her anymore. We don't even like her. We don't even know her. We can't believe she said this. They were running articles. She feels used. She feels abused. They claimed to TMZ in one article that she only met Justin once, and it was briefly, and essentially she was startled because the meeting was supposed to be over at Blake's apartment, and essentially she was startled because the meeting was supposed to be over at Blake's apartment and then she arrived and Justin Baldoni was there and then they painted this narrative like Taylor was just really nice and because she thought this is Blake's boss and she was being really kind to the Blake's boss and she was like, I don't know, I don't know,

and never spoke to him again. And we just know objectively that that is not true. Okay. We know objectively that is not true because both Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, despite this contentious fight, have agreed on the fact that Taylor Swift was involved in this film. Okay. They just have agreed on that without knowing that this fight was coming when everything was all good in the hood and Blake Lively was using her name. So I'm going to jog your memory just so you understand how many points she's involved in, how many times she could be subject to having to answer questions about maybe giving text messages pertaining to, first and foremost, the casting of young Lily Bloom, otherwise known as the actress Isabella Ferrer. Remember, she said this on the red carpet premiere. I hear that Taylor may have had some influence Farrow. Remember, she said this on the red carpet premiere. I hear that Taylor may have had some influence in getting. Yes, she did. Yeah, I know. I don't even know if I'm going to be saying it, but I'm saying it. Yeah, she was a helpful part of the process of the audition, which I found out later after I got it. And that rocks my world. Yeah, I I have no words.

And Justin Baldoni confirmed this in an interview. He said that this happened, but listen to his language, OK? Because it sounds like he's maybe seen Taylor Swift more than at that one time at the apartment in which she was, quote unquote, startled and never spoke to him again, according to the PR teams. Take a listen. She told me Taylor Swift helped her get the role, like signed off on her audition. I had brought in, I was casting, and I had actually brought in and showed her casting tape to Blake and Taylor, and they were both like, yes, her.

And that's a true story. But she just blew me away. She just blew me away in the audition. Okay, so he showed the casting tape. Did all that happen in a couple of minutes? Are we supposed to believe that happened in a couple of minutes at the apartment when she apparently just said, hi, bye, nice to meet you, boss? He then said, oh, let me show you the casting tapes for Lily Bloom.

More going on there, okay? They're lying to the public. And again, this is because Sh Tree is trying to protect her client. The right thing to do, by the way. The right, that is the job of a PR person, which is to try to signal to the public that she wants nothing to do with it so that she doesn't have to get pulled into this.

Now, we should also be reminded that Taylor Swift also allegedly got the lead composer on the film, Brian Tyler, fired. And the guy under him, allegedly for personal reasons, we were told by this anonymous Reddit post, which came out way before any of this broke in the public and no one believed the person at the time.

And yet everything this person has said has now fact-checked true. So they were alleging that Taylor Swift came in there and was like, if you want to use my song, My Tears Ricochet, which they did, again, showing that she was very involved in this film, then you can't have these guys as the composers. and that he had written a score for this movie for whatever reason his music was not used. So where there's smoke, there is fire. And they have not explicitly denied that despite the fact that all the podcasters and TikTokers are speaking about that.

There has not been this denial from Taylor Swift's camp. Then there's this, okay? We went over how odd the It Ends With Us credits were. I was sexually harassed and now we're just mocking him everywhere, mocking Justin Baldoni everywhere. But she thanks Taylor Swift. So bingo. Obviously, she was involved.

Now, you might say, oh, well, it's because her song was used. Well, we found out from that Reddit post that it was more than that. They had a sit down with Bradley Cooper, which is why he's mentioned in the It Ends With Us credits because they had this celebrity screening of Blake Lively's cut, but then the person said her cut was problematic, so they brought in Taylor Swift's videographer or Taylor Swift's music video makers to help with the edit. Well, then I noticed that in the It Ends With Us credits, there is a person named Stefania Dulowski. And I had not scooped this before. So I was looking up everybody on this list, like a psycho.

And I was like, who's Stefania Dulowski? It turns out that she is an editor. She's a director. And she's a photographer who previously worked with Taylor Swift. Not just Taylor Swift, but also Blake Lively. This is from Stefania Dulowski's website. She has a list of every music video she's worked on. And this is Taylor Swift's song, I Bet You Think About Me. You see it lists Shane Reed and also Blake Lively. This is Blake Lively

in her directorial debut. This was back in November of 2021. So she directed Taylor Swift's video. And the person that did the edits was this Stefania, and they clearly brought on Stefania, Taylor Swift's team, to come in and get involved in this movie. Okay, so you don't get to now go, oh, I had nothing. I just one little run in here with Justin Baldoni. I have nothing else to do with anything. Okay. Then you have the fact that Blake Lively herself admitted during an August 2024 panel, they're doing all of these promos. They're on the promotional tour and they did this stop, I guess, really to appeal to influencers and speak about the movie. And she just flat out

spells out the fact that Taylor Swift was involved every step of the way with this film. Take a listen. Was it exciting? Did you have to make some calls? There were a lot of calls made for a lot of songs in this movie. Honestly, like this movie, I think that like when you see it, it feels like a big, beautiful summer movie, but like we didn't have any budget. So there were a lot of favors and a lot of begging. And I mean, honestly, she was with me on this experience the whole time, all throughout it. So like she really lived this with me. So, yeah, she was, you know, she's a person who shows up for you.

And I'm so grateful to have that love and that support. But, yeah, there were other people too that I had to call and beg and people that said no. I don't know what that means. So if somebody has a dictionary, I would love to find the definition of that. It's so confusing to me. It's really interesting when you consider really the thrust of this lawsuit and you can only imagine the things that she's allowed to say. If Justin had ever said that, if he was like, I don't take no for an answer, can know, every step of the way, more than just the song that she gave us. It's believable because as I pointed out, we have been so focused on that text message about the dragons and Khaleesi because it's wacky and it's weird and it's crazy and it's unstable. But what's also compelling is

that the very first time that Ryan Reynolds and Justin Baldoni speak via text message, when they first are introduced to each other, Ryan Reynolds immediately name drops Taylor Swift. Okay. She's the only person they're blurring out in this lawsuit. So I'm going to remind you of this. This is important. He is basically saying how great Blake is. And then he says, Justin Baldoni, some of the greatest creative decisions I've made are in fact Blake. The same goes for Taylor. The acting is a small piece of a pretty astounding patchwork quilt of creativity. So he name drops her right away. And I remind you, she was coming out of that relationship with Joe Alwyn and she was spending a lot of time with them. At the beginning of her eras tour,

she was being pictured with them. It's what she likes to do when she gets out of relationships. She likes to girl squad, get photographed by paparazzi. And I would just imagine she needed something to play with. And It Ends With Us ended up being what she decided to play with. Then, of course, the most obvious thing is that Ryan uses Taylor Swift's strategy of dropping Easter eggs all over social media, all over the Deadpool movie, all over the It Ends With Us credits, all over the Deadpool credits to take all of these digs at Justin Baldoni again, which makes all of us not believe that she was actually sexually harassed and rather they were moving to try to squeeze her and to eventually just have Blake replace Justin Baldoni as the director on the film, you know, by playing this

part of I'm a victim. This is, whether you want to admit it or not, this is Taylor Swift's MO. So she is screwed. She's up first on their people to depose, and we are going to be able to read that deposition, you know, because there's nothing proprietary there. We don't need her accounts. And you can't say, well, I don't want to be deposed because I'm Taylor Swift. And there might be something in there that shows that I'm a liar. You can't do that. This is a PR crisis for Taylor Swift. And I'm going to tell you why that interests me. Okay. It interests me because this moment is super interesting for the left and the right because, and I was having this call with Taylor Lorenz, formerly of the Washington Post this morning, and she was asking me specifically about this lawsuit and why is it that it seems that it's bringing together the left and the right. And I sort of said to her, well, actually, at least for me, I have been on this Me Too thing for a very long time because I recognize that it was becoming a business strategy. But I think that something fractured for people that were on the left with the Amber Heard lawsuit,

and they didn't forget that. They didn't forget the Amber Heard lawsuit. And they didn't forget that. They didn't forget what Amber Heard said to them and then what they watched throughout the hearings and her kind of just completely forgetting the fact that she had abused Johnny. We got to read her messages and we kind of up close got to see how the press can just completely take down a man. I'm not saying that everything that Johnny Depp did was great in this relationship. I mean, both of them were admitting

to doing drugs on the stand, but definitely they just chose the woman in this. And so many details were left out. And I think it was a good moment. I think that fracturing was good because it allowed us to all go, let's pause and actually think and consider that maybe we're not being told the truth

and that maybe sometimes women do lie. And I have known for years, okay, trust me when I tell you, I know enough people in Hollywood that Taylor Swift is considered a very shrewd businesswoman. She's gotten away with a lot of things because truly, and don't kill me, Swifties, but it's because of this empire of teenage girls. It's because I have to say, don't kill me Swifties when I share some facts with you. And it's funny because I said to you, the timing of this book, I wrote an entire chapter

on Taylor Swift's brand of feminism. And I was kind of going back to what was that moment when I was no longer on the Taylor Swift train. And I was like, I can enjoy her music. I can enjoy the artist. And I still, like I said, in my Instagram stories today, I'm gonna, I can enjoy her music. I can enjoy the artist. And I still, like I said in my Instagram stories today, I'm going to bop to London Boy forever. It's totally fine. I can genuinely appreciate. It brings me back nostalgia, some of the albums. I'm the same

age as her. But in 2019, I was like, I'm good off of Taylor Swift because her and I are the same age and we're both involved in business. And when I saw her do that move against Scooter Braun, something in me broke. And so I wanted to kind of jog your memory about that really quickly before we get to Leslie Sloan PR's move, because I'm really interested to hear what Swifties have to say about this with new information and with time and with you guys getting older. I don't know why I'm assuming everybody's a teenager that is a Swifty, but the point being is that you're kind of growing up and you're starting to see these strategies that can be used.

When you revisit that situation and you learn more facts about it, if it at all disturbs you. So again, this book has not been published yet. I'm literally showing you the manuscript from my Microsoft Word document. You can buy the book, and I shouldn't be showing you this because why would I show you this, but I think it's important. So here we go. We can bring this up.

I'm going to pull it up here on my laptop, gang. So I write in my book, before unpacking this incredible event, this is between her and Scooter Braun, it's important to at first note that Taylor Swift does not represent a rags-to-riches Hollywood story. In fact, if Taylor had never become famous, she would have had to settle with just being wealthy. Taylor Swift grew up on an idyllic Christmas tree farm in West Reading, Pennsylvania. Her father, Scott Swift, was a stockbroker for Merrill Lynch, and her mother was a marketing executive for a financial fund. It's important to note that both her parents had careers which

would have rendered them financially savvy. They hired their daughter, a talent manager, at the age of 12, and Scott relocated to Merrill Lynch's Nashville office so that Taylor could pursue her career in music two years later. Suffice it to say that when record executive Scott Borchetta approached her family to sign their daughter in 2005, Taylor was well-represented. So well-represented, in fact, that her financially savvy father purchased a 3% stake in Borchetta's new company, Big Machine Records, under which

Taylor Swift was signed. Naturally, there would have been a fleet of lawyers involved from both sides to close the deal. Of course, neither Scott Swift nor Scott Borchetta could have ever predicted Taylor's future success when they orchestrated that deal. They simply agreed to what they both thought was fair at that time. Borchetta took a chance on an unknown Taylor Swift and that risk paid off. Until Taylor decided that it somehow wasn't fair 14 years later. Taylor decided that she would relitigate her business deal through the tactic which had always served her, manipulating the emotions of her fans who she could assume knew nothing about business. At the heart of the matter was a man named Scooter Braun who had recently just purchased Big Machine Records through his holding company.

Through this perfectly legal business transaction, he had acquired the masters to the music catalog that Taylor Swift had created while under the label. For definition sake, a master was effectively an original recording. Whoever therefore owns the master recording controls the destiny of the song. Should any person or company wish to use that song in a TV advert, a fee must be paid to the owner of the master. Okay, so then I get into like, clearly Taylor Swift leaves Big Machine Records. She goes with Universal and she posts this Tumblr post, Kim Kardashian. And she associated Scooter Braun with Kanye West as like his manager. And the reality is he actually wasn't his manager because I did the due diligence on this book at the time that that famous music video was posted. So she

just didn't like him. She considered him to be team Kanye and just didn't want him to buy the masters. But she never told the public that her dad owned a piece of the company. This drives me, I was like, this is the most wildly manipulative thing to pretend that this isn't a normal business transaction. It's like he bought a house and something was built into the house. And he's like, okay, well, I'm buying this house.

I'm buying it, it comes with a pool. And then Taylor Swift takes the tumbler and she's like, I sat next to that pool and I wrote my songs. And it's like, girl, I don't care what your memories are here. I'm just buying a company. Like, I don't I had nothing to do with the deal that you and your dad or your dad and Borchetta orchestrated. You're not the only person here under this record label. Anyways, getting just just showing you the beginning of her Tumblr post that she posted, because I just remember, again, her and I are the same age. I was like, this is insane. She wrote, for years, I asked, pleaded for a chance to own my work. Instead, I was given an opportunity to sign back up to Big Machine Records and earn one album back at a time, one for every new one I turned in. I walked away because I knew once I signed that contract, Scott Borchetta would sell the label, thereby selling me and my future. I had to make the

excruciating choice to leave behind my past, music that I wrote on my bedroom floor and videos that I dreamed up and paid for from the money that I earned playing in bars, then clubs and arenas, then stadiums. You pleaded for a chance to own your work. Do you talk to your dad? Why do you look like your dad was literally there's only there were only five people that were a part of this business. And one of these people was her father. So this just this entire thing was just not plausible. And then she did in a second maneuver. She posts this other Tumblr post, which is an objective lie. Guys, it's an objective lie. And again, relies on people not

knowing business to call out this lie. It was about the AMAs. She wrote this. Guys, it's been announced recently that the American Music Awards will be honoring me with the Artist of the Decade Award at this year's ceremony. I've been planning to perform a medley of my hits through the decade on the show. Scott Borchetta and Scooter Braun have now said that I'm not allowed to perform my old songs on television because they claim that would be re-recording my music before I'm allowed to next year. So this is just an objective lie. For those of you that don't understand what a master recording is, they can't, it has nothing to do with you live performing something. It's literally just what you already recorded and that

we own, right? So like it's on the album and you could say, you can't play this exact album, like My Tears Ricochet in the It Ends With Us movie. They could have stopped that, right? The exact copy. It has to be an exact copy. That is what the master is. It has nothing to do with live recording. And again, people who don't know business or know the ins and outs of music would have accepted this, which is why I just say at the bottom of this post. And the thing that bothered me about this was because I remember at the time Scooter Braun's wife pleading publicly with her not to do this because their kids were getting death threats because her army of fans were just so angry. They were so angry because they believed that she was his perfect victim.

And then the story ends, by the way, if you want to pull this up back to that post, Skylar. First, I said everything about this appeal to her fan base is despicable. Even the title, Don't Know What Else to Do, is absurd. You don't know what else to do? Working it out via normal contract negotiations would be a start. Second, don't try and emotionally manipulate your fan base to ruin people's lives. Words and phrases such as tyrannical, wrong, be a good little girl and shut up. The entire appeal was just like, help me, help me. I don't know what to do. Not like I'm a billionaire. And I have access to the most powerful marketing team in the world.

And yeah, it sucks, by the way. I can, to some extent, I would have agreed with her if she had done it on more honest terms and said, like, you know, when you're a young artist and you sign, and she said, like, you know, obviously my dad had control. I didn't. And you're kind of would have done things differently. And you realize how hard you're working and you feel like, you know, your celebrity has outgrown that contract. It's really frustrating. That would have done things differently and you realize how hard you're working and you feel like your celebrity has outgrown that contract, it's really frustrating. That would have been cool. That would have been the cool adult thing to do rather than to pretend like you were a total victim. And the story ends and it never got told. Her dad got paid $15 million when they got sold. And then a couple of months later, Scooter Braun resold it because it was just a normal business transaction. And it was more about her hatred of Kanye West at that

time. And I from that moment on in 2009, I just like just saw her for this, like kind of saw this maneuver of if you can control the press, if you can control the narrative, then you can take down people and you can get what you want. And the craziest part of the story is actually the fact that Taylor Swift now makes double the money. So then she recorded everything. Her fans are behind her like, you re-record your stuff and we'll buy that. And she never told her fans, but I still own the percentage of what my dad orchestrated at the beginning. So she's making money both ways. It actually was an incredibly financially savvy, and I will say actually a brilliant Machiavellian scheme to magnify her money, magnify her ownership while keeping her young fan base kind of emotionally swayed. And I felt that it was so wrong. And so when I look at this situation with what's

happening with Blake and she's doing kind of that same maneuver of saying like, I've been used, I really just don't buy it. And I'm tired of it. I'm exhausted with that narrative that she's used every single time. And she's going to be 36 this year. Okay. You're smart. You are capable. You have done things in your life that are wrong. Okay. Relationship wise, business relationship wise. And you can't keep doing this because you've done a good job of kind of curating your brand as a helpless little girl. It's just wrong. Okay. And so what I can expect, and this is what I'm, again, I'm guessing this here is that they are now done with Blake Lively. I think that that's real. I don't think that this is fake anymore. And this might be the reason

that Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds fold because what matters to them in their narcissistic world is the friendship with Taylor Swift that's the only thing that can actually impact them they like that access to power they like being able to tell people like Taylor Swift is our friend she's our dragon and if they think that that's going to be removed from their lives then they might go okay I don't want to do this lawsuit let's issue a statement and let's settle this thing that's that is my again, that is totally my own prognostication. Who knows? But my guess is going to be because I've seen her move. She's shutting down this friendship ASAP because she doesn't want people to have access to those messages. And I don't think it's going to

be a nice girl. I don't think you're going to get a sweet girl who would have never done this. Justin Baldoni. I think the public is going to be very, very surprised when they meet the very media savvy, very capable, very business savvy Taylor Swift. That's my point. Now, that's Tree, by the way, with the red hair. And listen, I respect them both. They've killed it. They've killed her brand. They've killed stories. They've persuaded the masses. And like I said, no matter what happens, I'm still bopping London Boy. It's a great song. And there's some more songs, too, that my daughter likes off of the Lover album. I'll probably be at her concert. I'll just be like, listen, I don't believe anything you're saying, but Lover's a good album. You know what

I'm saying? In other news, by the way, Leslie Sloan PR, and I forgot to bring up the chart for you, but just to remind you, Leslie Sloan PR is the I forgot to bring up the chart for you, but just to remind you, Leslie Sloan PR is the PR firm that reps Blake and Ryan Reynolds, and they have repped them for years, like close to a decade, okay? And their attorney, who is Sigrid McCauley, the one that represented Epstein's victims, the one that made a fool of herself in the hearing by just trying to use a girl power strategy. My, they should not be in this because they run an all-girl firm. What? Well, she's now filed a motion for them to be dismissed from Justin Baldoni's lawsuit. Plus, they want all of their attorney fees covered in what's known as an anti-SLAPP motion. Anti-SLAPP basically meaning

that if you bring about a defamation lawsuit and there's no grounds for that lawsuit, then they can charge you the attorney fees. And so every state has different laws pertaining to anti-SLAPP. They're asking for their attorney fees to be covered. And their reason, in case you're wondering in this filing, this again went in yesterday as well, they're saying, well, they opened this up by saying, well, Justin Baldoni once said that he believed women. I'm not kidding. They're doing the feminist thing. This has been their whole strategy. They wrote this quote, Justin Baldoni has spent years profiting off the feminist and hashtag me too movements, peddling books, podcasts, TED talks, and more using slogans about believing survivors, ending victim blaming,

and promoting informed consent. His conduct in this dispute is therefore sheer hypocrisy. Like, I'm just so shocked by this. This is like, I'm a girl. He said things close to a decade ago that we should believe women when he was in a TEDx stage. And I said something and I want to be believed. So get me out of here. I don't want to be here anymore. It's just it's crazy. And then we move from this like feminist strategy to this unbelievable dip in IQ altogether. This is a real statement from their filing. Baldoni does not deny the lion's share of misconduct for which he is accused. Instead, he tries to contextualize his behavior and suggests that Ms. Lively asked for it. Then they give an example. You can see in the bottom notes there. For instance, Mr. Baldoni responds to Ms. Lively's allegation that Baldoni

and Heath invaded her trailer uninvited while she was undressed, included when she was breastfeeding her infant child, by publishing a text message where Ms. Lively invited Baldoni to her trailer. Yeah, that's kind of some important context. What are you accusing him of? Providing the context that lets us know that she's lying? How dare he interrupt her narrative where she says that he barged into the trailer by then including a text message which proves that he was actually invited into the trailer. Like, what lawyer put this in here? That is truly just unwise. It's the nicest way I can say it. Like, whoever put this together is not a very intelligent lawyer. That is your defense. How dare he contextualize our out-of-context statements?

Yeah, that's kind of important to contextualize everything that you guys have said. And when they did that, it made the public understand that your clients are playing a very nasty game. Then they go on and they accuse him of predatory behavior. He and his team used every weapon in their arsenal, blame to embarrass and to silence. And then they go back to that initial CRD complaint of trying to put things out of context. They say their crisis PR manager who promised to quote unquote, bury Miss Lively and quote unquote, destroy her life. They have since debunked that so many times. This was the New York Times hook. We're going to bury her. We're going to destroy her. And then when you actually see the full right away that I do not think that the judge is going to allow them to be dismissed because it's just a really weak filing, first and foremost, that does

nothing to make, if I'm the judge, make me think that they weren't involved in this. There's also going to be some limited discovery involved in that circumstance. And given the fact that Leslie Sloan PR, as I said, has represented Ryan and Blake for almost a decade, it's just not likely that it was not them that was shopping around those articles that we saw during the premiere time when all these articles were premiering that were coming out about Justin Baldoni saying the cast didn't like him and saying that Blake thought he was a creep. Remember this TMZ article? They have a strong contact, Leslie Sloan PR at TMZ. Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, she felt kissing scene lingered too long. Feels he fat shamed her. So we were getting an early preview of the CRD complaint in TMZ. Who would have dropped that in TMZ if not her own PR firm?

Like that's just obviously that's coming from them. It was also People Magazine that says, it ends with us. Justin Baldoni's clash goes past Blake Lively. The cast will have nothing to do with him. Who had access to the cast that would have dropped the cast that would have dropped that in People magazine. They then go on and I want to just blatantly call out the absolute BS on the claim that Leslie Sloan is saying that she did not get involved with her clients until August 8th. Okay, that's from the filing. She did not get involved until August 8th. Look at that. Completely crazy. Ms. Sloan did not speak to the press about Baldoni until August 8th, when she responded to a press inquiry about a story that Baldoni's team had planted days, if not weeks earlier. Maybe you didn't directly speak to the press, Leslie. Maybe you had one of your younger junior people on the team speak to the press, but you are not going to make the public believe that you were not involved until August 8th. You would have been involved all year. Okay, you're both of your clients. Ryan and Blake had movies. Again, relying on the public to not understand how PR works. We are obviously not going to accept that you didn't get involved until August 8th,

but Deadpool had premiered the month earlier. It Ends With Us had premiered, what was it, August 3rd or maybe on August 8th. And in the midst of an absolute firestorm, we're supposed to think that you just weren't speaking to them or dealing with the press at all or your firm was not dealing with the press at all. LOL. It's also highly unlikely that they were not involved when Jennifer Abel's phone got taken away. Remember that Jennifer Abel was the one who left Stephanie Jones PR and then joined kind of the new PR

and took Justin Baldoni with her. She got her phone taken away from Stephanie Jones. That was kind of the basis of a New York Times story, text messages that they forced her to hand over her phone. And then they found and emails that were out of context. There's no chance that Ryan and Reynolds and Leslie Sloan did not speak before that. Now, I want to show you this before we move on from this, because I think this is insane. I think, and again, this is fully opinion, that Ryan Reynolds engaged this psychopath in trying to, once they had made the decision to go to the New York Times, which they had been threatening to do behind the scenes apparently, that he tried to essentially create an alibi for himself and for Leslie Sloan PR because a very weird text message exchange that she drops. Allegedly, this text message that took place between her and Ryan Reynolds took place on August 13th. August 13th, okay? Let's pull it up. This is from the

filing yesterday. Leslie says, hi, it's Les, just checking in to tell you that I'm thinking about you, B and the family. Hugs to all, XX. Ryan then says, thank you. This is the craziest thing I've ever witnessed in my life, but it will be resolved. Okay, let me tell you right away what is wrong with that message on August 13th. Why is she saying, hi, it's Les? Who starts a text message like that with anyone who's already admitted in her filing, she's saying she got involved, she didn't speak to the press directly until August 9th. I don't even believe that. But you're telling me that this is after Kirsten Flaa's video had dropped. Everything's going insane. He's had Deadpool. You're starting a message with hi, it's Les. You don't have his number. You don't have Ryan

Reynolds. He's been your client for a decade. You don't have his number. The only excuse for this would be you had a new number, you got a new number, in which case you would have started with, hey, it's Les' new number. And he probably would have checked to make sure it was in fact Les to make sure it was a new number or something. But why does she start this text with, hi, it's Les? Then they go on and they say this is another exchange that they had. And this is very weird. Again, Ryan's way too formal. I'm telling you right now, I have a PR person. You are the most informal with your PR person.

My guy's Mitchell. And you're constantly in fire, especially when you're a firestorm. Like they call you up. They're like the New Yorkers running a piece saying that you're Adolf Hitler. You're not like, hi, hi, it's Mitchell. I would like to. I'm like, what the heck? What's going on?

This is crazy. This is we have what's going on? This is crazy. This is, we have, we have to stop. This is insane. This is not true. Watch this next message that's next to it that Ryan allegedly sent. They're using this as proof that they had nothing to do with the storm. On the right-hand side there, Ryan says in perfect language, now we know he's crazy, so this makes me uncomfortable. It's like serial killer vibes. Thanks for sending. It's imperative we stay silent on everything and speak to nobody. As I mentioned in Denmark before Blake's premiere, to not talk to anyone about any of these attacks on Blake. Just making sure you haven't done that at any point, question mark. I think this is sweet that Bart said this, but the only thing to do is to remain quiet for now. So they're introducing this as a message that Ryan sent in August,

in mid-August, to Leslie Sloan PR as proof that they had nothing to do with everything that was leaking. Pull that text back up because no one texts like this. Don't forget that I also told you in Denmark back in August not to say anything. There's no record of that, so I'm creating it right here in this message. Do not talk to anyone about any of these attacks on Blake. Wink, wink. Hi, it's Les. Hey, Les, it's me, Ryan. Don't do the thing

that we're definitely doing, but we need to now create a trail that says that we didn't do it. You feel the same? You definitely feel the same, right? This is like, it's giving alibi. It is giving, we're making a decision to go crazy. I'm trying, he's trying to buy his company. And it's even crazier when you trying, he's trying to buy his company. And it's even crazier when you consider that he's saying, don't say anything after he's created the movie Deadpool. And he has said everything.

Ryan has said everything that he could possibly say in the public sphere. Like he is petty Betty, okay? Petty Betty everywhere, all over the internet, on Deadpool and the credits. Now he's, hello, this is Ryan. Let's not do anything and be really mature. Remember when I also said let's not do anything at the premiere in Denmark?

Guys, guys, smells like an alibi and it was dumb. If you want to do an alibi, Leslie, don't start with Hyatt's Les. Don't start with Hyatt's Les. You got to. I can help you. I keep saying this, guys. If you give me a budget, I can help you. Call me, Ryan. Call me. Okay, don't put me in the new Deadpool movie that's coming out and make petty little jokes. I can help you. You're just being, you guys aren't being very smart right now. I know you're the magician, you're the narcissist that believes in his own magic and you thought you definitely orchestrated this weird alibi thing that you're doing, but it was a bad idea. I know you can't see yourself because you think you're untouchable,

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Another lawyer in France, a woman named Jean Anaki, she first confirmed, they asked, like, are these like excerpts that Candace showed on her show real? And they confirmed that the excerpts from the letters that I addressed on my show and published are, quote, indeed a reproduction of a letter from the American lawyer of the Macron couple. So they're admitting, yes, that was us. We sent the letter. He points out, however, I realize it's Jean, not Jean. It's a guy. The lawyer's name is Jean Inaki. He points out, however, that the list of questions allegedly sent by Candace Owens in return was never received by interested parties.

What does that mean? Okay, then they go on to say, quote, Candace Owens's interventions are just unfounded statements to convince people who are already convinced by this delusional thesis, if there are still any, he insists. Scroll back up. Literally, what does that mean? What does the statement, it was not received by the interested party? It's like you're saying nothing there. Are you saying that Brigitte McCrone-Emmanuel never received the 21 questions back? Because let me tell you something, that's a lie, my friends. That is a lie. And we know it's a lie. It's an insane lie. But listen, if you're lying about your entire gender, what's it to you to lie via your lawyer about receiving it? You made contact with me. We weren't trying to send letters and guess who your lawyer was. You admit, yes, the American law firm

got the letter to me. Not only did we respond to you via email, okay? We gave you 21 questions, which you can pull up via email, but we then got a response from you. We got a response from you in the form of a preservation order that you sent us. And we went over that preservation or we read the entire preservation order on our show to show people that you refuse to answer the 21 questions. So are you now trying to pretend that your American law firm, a big American D.C. law firm, just went rogue? That they received a response? You spent money to write 100 pages to me, have it delivered to my home, and when they got a response, they just didn't tell you? They were like, no, we're not going to tell you what they are? If you are alleging that, can you explain also who's running your Twitter account? Because not only did I send you the letter, I mean, with the 21 questions, not only did you respond to the preservation order, but then I tweeted you the 21 questions. I said, we sent our reply to at Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte yesterday. We included specific questions for them to answer before we released our full investigative piece on Brigitte. Again,

we were doing the right thing here. We said, if we get basic answers, did you give birth to three children? We'll put it in the series. We have no interest in lying. And look at the date on this. We did this before we started the series. Straightforward, yes or no questions. I look forward to a straightforward response.

They did not answer these 21 questions on Twitter. I then tweeted again. Again, I tweeted and I was making jokes and I was dropping 50 cent. I got 21 questions and they all about us tagging Emmanuel Macron every single time being like, girl, it's easy to love me now. Would you love me if I was down and out? Please just answer my 21 questions. And they're saying they just, the interested parties just never received it. What goes on in France? Are you allowed to lie in France as the president? Is this just like legal? In France, you can just say whatever you want, just make stuff up. Like I said, Brigitte, you've got balls, my man. You've got balls to just have your lawyer come out and say that you never got the 21 questions. But here's the thing. That's the problem. When you lie about

who you are, who you are, your identity, there is no lie in your life that you won't tell. That's got to feel like nothing. Pretending you didn't get it, you're like, oh, well, I've been lying about my gender my entire life. I've been lying about my friends. I've been lying about everything. I've been lying about my relationship with this man when I met him. What do I feel towards lying and pretending that my American lawyers were just so out of pocket and suddenly went rogue and didn't deliver to me an email, which was then tweeted at me. And I was being mocked with the dissent music. It feels like nothing. I'll just lie. You're just lying. And so this is just who they are. This couple absolutely must step down. They just have to step down. They are terrible human beings. It's not Emmanuel Macron's fault. It is Brigitte's fault because you groomed him. You groomed Emmanuel Macron. And so I take it that you're not going to file that lawsuit, that heavy threat, which makes it even crazier because you're saying, if you didn't get my 21

questions, where's your lawsuit? Where's your lawsuit, Brigitte? When are you going to drop it? You must have had all this runway and you waited until the series concluded and now you're pretending you didn't get the questions? Wild. Absolutely wild. But like I said, we're in this weird, I like 2025, liars are being exposed. Whoever they may be, the liars are getting exposed. What has been done in the dark seems to be being revealed in the light, sunlight being the best disinfectant. So I'm just going to sit back and see what happens with this couple and sit back and see what happens to Blake Lively. I'm lying. I am not sitting back. I what happens to Blake Lively. I'm lying. I am not sitting back. I am active. I am involved. I have deluded myself into believing that I am a part of this lawsuit. Blake Lively can delude herself into believing that she was sexually

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Because they don't really love speech. And he talks about the origins of pornography. It was a fascinating discussion. He's also a fellow Catholic. I would love to see what so many people think about that interview. I think it's tremendous. And I think pornography is hurting the world. I think it's hurting men, especially, and it is harming women and relationships. And we have become an overtly pornographic culture. So that is up available

on the website for subscribers. Also, of course, if you want to buy the book, you can get it now on sale. I read you a little tidbit. My husband is probably watching and going, why did you do that? I'm sorry, honey. I just do things. I just want to do hood rat things on the internet with my friends. And also I wanted to tell you that I promised that I was going to unveil the new investigative series today. We have one little legal hiccup that I have to deal with. And so I was like so gung ho about that. I loved all of your guesses. I promise you on Monday, we will announce it. So that is my bad. I made a promise and did not deliver on it because my lawyers came in and somebody's got to keep me straight. You know, if it's got to be a legal team and it's got to be my

husband and they're like, no, you can wait one weekend to say who it is. We just need to make sure that we are dotting our hour I's and crossing our T's so that you don't end up in prison. Anyways, keep sending me your guesses all weekend, and we will be announcing that on Monday. Getting into your comments. Let's see what you guys have for me today. Talia writes, the way I cackled and ran straight to watch this episode. These thumbnails deserve Emmys, Candice. Also that 21 questions line, cackling. Thank you so much. Yeah, we have a fun time with thumbnails. Today was me. Thank you very much. There's a Taylor Swift song for everything. It's great. I'm like, wow, the more we cover her, we can just get deeper into her music. It's just so funny.

Wanda says, Candace is my only news source. Thank you so much. We're having, obviously, you can see we're having way too much fun. Helda writes, I absolutely appreciate the type of person that you are. It takes a lot to be poised. Keep on keeping on. Thank you so much. Eddie writes, caught the Candace crush. You are amazing. God bless you. Thank you for saying things that matter the truth. You know what you're doing. And I am here for every minute of it. Thank you so much. And the reason just you guys know, because I know the media said terrible things about me when I didn't support the Me Too movement. I just always in my head just thought it was weird that we were pretending that we might not one day have sons who have to live in that environment.

Like we like Justin Baldoni was definitely born from a woman. And like if you can imagine your son going through something like that and it's because you've created an environment where we should just like believe women. That always scared me. And that was before I had any sons. And now I've got three. So, you know, I am glad that I just said, listen, we should not believe women or men, but we should believe facts when they are presented. Both people are convinced both sexes are capable of lying, obviously. hideous. Ryan probably forced Balaki to file the suit. I totally agree that Ryan was behind a lot and those messages still make me nervous. Look at his face. He scares me. I can't explain it. I'm so afraid of Ryan. He's going to come for me. He's going to come for my whole life. I can't believe it. Ben writes, Ken is pleased to an episode on Catholic emancipation in Ireland. The government failed to include it as a date to remember in 2029. In 1829, it gave Catholics basic human rights and led to obviously Ireland, but I watched Braveheart over the weekend and I just kind of got very fired up about Catholicism. And yes, okay, we have to do more episodes on Catholicism around the world and what's happening. And that will be definitely

more in our longer pieces. So thanks for putting that on my radar. Sydney writes, Candice, I dipped my toes into your content with the Yay interview, but have gone fully into the deep end with the Brigitte series. The Blake versus Justin is my Roman Empire. Thank you for your hard work. And it's allowed to be our Roman Empire. I want to say that. I know we're chasing our husbands and we're tackling them and we're forcing them to, you know, learn all this information against their will. But it's our right, I feel. They've had their Roman empire since the Roman empire and they talk about it and they think about it all the time and we're allowed to do that, okay? They might not think it's important. It is important. So I just want, carry on, ladies. And now we've gotten them.

I see men in the comments like, I'm here, I'm here now. My wife forced me to do this against my will and I'm here now. And I want to say this, fellas, we are very happy to have you here on this journey. We are going to rescue Justin Baldoni. All right, guys, we will see you on Monday. I don't think there's anything else that I have to mention

other than the E. Michael Jones interview going up today. Other than that, yeah, have a great weekend. Thanks for watching!