Candace - Huh? Erika Kirk Sits Down With A Trans-Loving Reporter. We Reveal The Moderator For Friday's Debate.

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

People are deeply upset that we showed photos of "Tyler Robinson" that were not compressed, we will be announcing the moderator of the debate between me and Andrew Wilson, and we'll be taking a look at the attempted hit piece by MS Now against me...promoted and supported by Turning Point USA. 00:00 - Start. 02:10 - The cope from uncompressed images. 15:28 - MS Now's hit piece on me. 30:27 - The moderator for our debate. 44:23 - Comments. PreBorn!​ ​ To donate, dial #250 and say they keyword “BABY" or by visiting https://preborn.com/candace Kikoff​ Build credit fast and get your first month for just a dollar at http://www.getkikoff.com/candace today. Thanks to Kikoff for sponsoring us! Beekeeper's Naturals​ ​​​​​​​​​​​​ Get 20% off your order with promo code CANDACE at http://www.Beekeepersnaturals.com/Candace American Financing​​​​​​​​​​​​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99. Candace Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ClipsCandaceOwens Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Wayfair, every style, every home. All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. I hope everyone is wearing their second favorite shirt today because we are going to do some hoodwad stuff with our friends. Now, people are deeply upset on the internet that we showed photos that were uncompressed. that's all we did. Because, you know, that compression sure makes the individual in the parking garage look a lot thinner.

So people who are pushing the federal narrative aren't pleased. They're going, why did she do that? These sorts of individuals I want to say are what my husband would describe as dollar a day mindset people. The kind of people who, when presented with a large sum of money that they can have instantly, don't calculate how taking the cash up front is going to impact them in the future, right? They think along these lines. Oh, wow, $200,000 to become a full-time liar to spread the Fed Slop. That sounds fantastic.

I've never seen that kind of money before. What they don't consider is the fact that everyone then knows you're a Fed Slopper. They will never trust you again. So your potential to earn in the future to be listened to by people, that collapses. So unless the people who brought you that $200K, the bigger check in the beginning, are going to just say, we'll do that for the rest of it. of your life, yeah, that's not good. Fast money is not a long-term strategy.

So try to live your life with some honor, some decency. Tell the truth. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, today, we will be announcing the moderator of the debate between me and Andrew Wilson on Friday because it's official, it's happening. We're also going to take a look at the attempted hit piece by MS Now against me, promoted and supported by Turning Point USA. Of course, of course.

It backfired. Everything that Turning Coat USA does backfires because, you know, the person that had the brains at that organization is no longer with us. So welcome back to Candace. Okay, you have to love when we win like we did yesterday. It just, it's amazing if you have not had time. Please pivot over to X and experience the crash out from the Fed Sloppers. I mean, we showed the public yesterday for the first time, just still photos. of the Maroon Boy who allegedly was walking from the parking garage en route to the courtyard, showing off his favorite shirt. He was seeking, of all people, a turning point employee to ask whether or not the event was going to be there. Now, look, I would say that were I a 4.0 plus GPA student like Tyler Robinson, I was not, but if I was one, I may have actually just asked a right. regular UVU student that question. Maybe don't go up to someone wearing an American

comeback tour shirt. Maybe I would have even just used my context clues. Oh, look, that's a big tent that they're setting up, which says American comeback tour. It looks like they're bringing in some stuff. I bet it's here. Tyler Robinson apparently was built different that day. He walked right up to a turning point USA employee and asked, is this going to be where the event is going to be held later today, your boss, who I plan to assassinate? And the next part of it is actually where it gets really fun because he goes to Chick-fil-A, and my producer pointed out to me the hilarity of that. Have you ever met a person who was radical about LGBTQ rights that would eat at Chick-fil-A?

Chick-fil-A, the Christian company that has come under fire from virtually every LGBTQ rights organization in America because their CEO openly asserted that his perspective was that marriage can only take place between a man and a woman. Remember that? Like, that's kind of their vibe, their brand. I get Tyler Robinson was so fired up by LGBTQ issues that he went to a commit a murder,

but also he went to Chick-fil-A. And we're told that in Tyler Robinson's text confessions to Lance Twigs, Tyler wrote this. He wrote, quote, Some hate can't be negotiated. Oh, unless, unless that hatred comes with the side of Chick-fil-A sauce, I guess, then he's ready to negotiate. Anyway, the point that I'm making here is that even the Fed Sloppers could not pretend

that the uncompressed images that we release looked anything like Tyler Robinson. It sowed more than reasonable doubts. So they moved instead to extreme forms of coping. They were just coping a lot. on the internet. David Frey, goes by Viva Frey, once upon a time respected Canadian lawyer. He is no longer tweeted this in the hopes that the images were just edited. He was responding to Village Crazy Lady who said, yeah, that's not Tyler Robinson, clearly. And he responds in and said, I agree the person in this picture does not look like Tyler Robinson at Village Crazy Lady.

Do you not understand that you are sharing what appears to be an AI enhanced photo from the original video evidence. Do you not bother to do five minutes of research before sharing this information? I put together this very clear comparisons that you can understand what you just did. He has no evidence. He's Mr. Where's the Evidence? He just flat out accuses us of AI enhancing the photo of tampering with, of tampering with the, no, we did no such thing. We did no such thing, which is why he was eventually community noted because you can't just say stuff, okay? You can't just say stuff and make it real. You can't wish that it's AI enhanced and make it so.

We're very clear when we shared it that we did not edit the photo in any way. Then there came a user by the name of Melissa who coped even harder than that. Melanie, pardon me, who coped even harder than that. She was hoping that we were using rhetorical tricks when we said that we did not enhance the photo in any way. here's what Melanie shared. This is one of the people, by the way, that's in the now-famed 92 group chat. She wrote, this is what you guys do.

You abuse community notes. I noticed that your words are very specific here, quote, not enhanced using AI technology. Let's be clear, Candace, was the original altered in any form whatsoever? You don't get to squeeze out on a technicality. So I replied to her. I said, yeah, let's be clear, Mel.

We didn't alter it in any way. We didn't use a hammer, a screwdriver on a rooftop. We didn't use AI tools. We didn't use anything to alter, enhance, edit, or change the photo that we shared. No one's trying to squeeze out on a technicality. Okay? Sorry. Sorry to tell you that, Mel.

But we reached peak cope on the internet with a tweet from this user who claims that he's got evidence, evidence that we hired or concluded with. Another internet investigator who's been actually on the ground doing a lot of work, Diligent Denison, interviewing people regarding the assassination, and we somehow colluded, and that's actually him. It's totally fake. It's a reenactment, a recreation of the moment. I know it's very confusing.

I don't know how to explain to you. I'll just read his tweet. This is the zero hour is what he goes by. He wrote Candice, oh, it's tampering with evidence. The man on the right is Tyler Robinson. The man on the left is diligent denizen. I will explain it all soon. Please do.

Please do explain it all soon. It's just amazing. These are the people that call us conspiracy theorists. People that say, we never have evidence. Look how quickly. They just completely, their brains melt and they come up with strange conspiracies. And they reject the evidence of their eyes. Now, I am sorry to say, guys, but no, we are not, in fact.

editing or enhancing anything. The truth is that the court hearing footage was compressed. And for whatever reason, put into this sizzle reel, right, just like a 20-minute sizzle reel moving very quickly of obviously compressed footage. You can see it. The cars all look like buggies. And like I said, people are still believing what they see, unfortunately, for them. and when you compress footage, it does make people look a lot thinner than they are, and that's why they're angry. And I'm going to show you what I mean when I say a compressed footage makes people look thinner. Just because you're wearing your second favorite shirt today, I'm going to treat you to another uncompressed still, never before seen by the public.

Oh, I'm so gracious, so transparent. Maybe never seen by the public, certainly seen by the government employees and the evidence is overwhelming people, side by side, actually I'll put for you, of Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson, as they told us, as he was about to descend down that staircase onto campus. On the left is the uncompressed photo.

On the right is what we were shown in the courtroom. I am so sorry to... to everyone who's going to crash out right now. He looks a lot thicker. Can we pull that back up? Let's just observe. He, the person we are told is Tyler Robinson, looks a lot thicker.

So who's playing with the footage? Who's playing with the photos? I would say the court, because they knew it was going to be public. Now, it could be their system. I shouldn't accuse them of intentionally doing it. It may just be some old court system and this is what they have to do

and it has to get compressed. I don't know that. I'm not assigning any guilt to them, but I am saying, that the compressed part is coming from the court. It is not coming from me. Please don't crash out on me, guys. Please, the evidence is overwhelming

that Tyler Robinson did this, right? So why are you upset? You know, it's, it is starting to get pretty weird, isn't it? Because the build of Tyler Robinson, in the footage that was presented from the police precinct when he, quote, unquote, turned himself in, which I've been telling you from the beginning, that is not what happened.

he willingly agreed to go in. That's why when they even show, it looks like they gave him a soft drink. He's not in, he's in a room that has a love seat. He agreed to willingly come in because he told him that he had no choice, which is exactly what Sheriff Brooksby shared the truth.

He's basically peer pressured into going in. We can do this the easy way or the hard way. But anyway, when they showed a snippet of that police precinct and Tyler Robinson inside of it, that footage was not a part of that campus sizzle reel. And it does not appear to be, be compressed, or at least it doesn't appear to be as compressed. It's definitely coming from,

you see the camera is up top, so it's going to make him look a little bit thinner. But even if you look at the side by side of this, take a look here. This is why they're angry. Because people are going to go, you know, that person looks bigger. Why did you want us to think that person was thinner? Did you want us to think that person was thinner? I shouldn't assign, like I said, I shouldn't assign motive. But that's what people are thinking. And what do I know, you guys? I'm just one of those rare, crazy people

who still believes her own eyes and her own ears. We are, we're going out of fashion, I will say that. Anyway, give all of the fed sloppers time to process their emotions. Please, remember, everybody grieves differently. And it is hard to be exposed as an absolute shameless immoral grifter who is rooting for a 22-year-old to be executed by the state without sufficient evidence, likely because someone's paying you to have that perspective.

Speaking of which, you might imagine, as I did yesterday, that Turning Point USA, execs and affiliates, you know, the stewards of Charlie's legacy, his best friends, I worked with him every day. Yeah, that's called a work colleague. The caretakers of what Charlie loved and didn't love, which seems so bad. backward from the Charlie that we all knew publicly, basically the opposite of whatever Charlie said, you would assume that given these photos, they would have something to say that. They would weigh in immediately since they have been radically asserting all over the place that Tyler Robinson is the person who killed Charlie Kirk, right? Blake Neff, by the way, has been the most vocal in his

effort to get Tyler Robinson sentenced to death. Like I said, we should be clear on that. They are calling for the death of a would-be innocent man. Supposed to be assumed innocent. They don't have that assumption. So I thought surely they would comment on these photos. We know Blake watches this show every day. I'm a part of his routine. I thought surely they would come out and say,

wow, we are deeply upset to learn that the court footage was so compressed. And now we do have some questions. Maybe they'd reach out to me. But nothing. Could you imagine Blake Neff quiet after an episode of our show? It was unimaginable. He was. It completely ignored the photos.

Why? I think because not even they were willing to venture toward that deep of an absurd attempt to tell people not to believe their own eyes, right? We presented evidence that a seemingly left-handed individual with a bit more weight on them, someone who does not at first glance look like Tyler Robinson or second glance or third glance and nothing. 4K crystal clear. I'm getting nothing.

You're probably wondering also where is Erica, Erica's voice in all this. You're probably wondering if she called me and thanked me and wanted to sit down and actually see all the evidence that we've gathered. Thanks me perhaps for delivering at least a small snippet of that transparency that she claims that she so desperately wants. Look, I gotta tell you, she didn't. I gotta be honest. She hasn't called me yet. Now, to be fair, Erica never needed to see anything. She was convinced of Tyler Robinson's guilt before it was cool, right? Before she saw any footage at all, remember this? Hey, y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder, what if? Like,

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Also, no mention of the footage of the stills on the Beavis and Butthead show. Nothing. What are they busy doing? What are they doing over there? Still thinking that they can convince the world with trash PR is the answer. It's almost a Pinky and the brain show. What are we going to do today, Pinky? Try to convince the world that Tyler Robinson

acted alone on that rooftop with the screwdriver, and we don't really know why. Which brings us to a video, you guys may have seen this going around, a piece that was published by the left-wing MS now by journalist Brandy Zedrosny. I'm going to show you this, right? Brandy's article, which I just want to again point out the absurdity,

how is this not defamation per se, that they keep going, who killed Charlie Kirk putting or a digital assassin and putting my face on it? Who killed Charlie Kirk? There's only two people in that photo, Charlie Kirk and me. How is that not defamation per se? We know what they're doing and we know who's behind it and she publishes this piece. And just to give everybody a background on who she is, shortly after Charlie died, this journalist contacted me. And it made me physically sick because I knew exactly who she was because she was so vicious.

fundamentally dishonest. It was Charlie and I were very green. We were excited that somebody in the press, I think at the time she was working for NBC, wanted to do a piece on us. We invited her. I think we were out in California, went out to dinner with her, had a great day with her. And then she publishes a piece that was just the opposite of the experience we had with her. It was a wake-up call to like, oh, wow, journalists lie. Their job is to smear us. And she kept up doing that throughout the years. I have text messages. I'm so tired of having to tell people the truth about how Charlie Kirk felt about certain people. I have text messages with Don Trump Jr. Regarding a different piece that Brandy was working on. I have text messages with Tyler Boyer.

I have text messages with Charlie and me and Charlie Boyer about this woman. Charlie Kirk did not like this woman. Okay. And so it boggles the mind to me that she would have any association at all when Turning Point USA. When she reached out to me, I basically barked at her. I literally, my reaction was not, oh, she must be working with Turning Point USA. It was like, obviously, Turning Point USA would not work with this woman in the wake of Charlie's assassination. And lo and behold, I find out that they did work with her. Anyway, I'm just going to run a clip of her, what turned out to be a 45-minute episode of MSN now, a series that they have, where she shared my response to her. I'm really proud of it.

Take a listen. I first met Candace Owens in 2018. Okay, so first, I really appreciate you taking this time. I know, and that this was like. I'm sorry, started on a Twitter battle. I'd come to Stanford University to see or speak with Charlie Kirk. Kirk was just 24 years old then. He'd worked social media on Trump's 2016 campaign and was back to building Turning Point USA.

The group he'd started four years earlier to fight the left on college campuses and to recruit young Republicans. If you're asking me, do I think the black community has been crippled economically? The answer would be yes, it has been crippled economically by Democrat policies. Kirk was crisscrossing the country, owning the libs, and building a digital enterprise on the back of its college debate tapes. What have I ever said that's racist? Name one thing. Name one.

... about racism and by enabling people and giving them a platform. Like who? Like Candace Owens? Exactly. Oh, Candice Owens is a racist. Kirk had just hired Candace. Technically as Turning Point's Director of Urban Engagement, then promoted to communications manager. But really, she was a sidekick and everything Charlie wasn't. A woman, black. And to Charlie and his roster of old white donors, comparing I met Candace back in November, hired her five minutes after I met her, and as they say, the rest is the future.

Before we go any further, I should note that Candice declined to be interviewed for this video. When I asked, she sent a statement through her rep. She called me slimy and said it made her skin crawl that I would reach out in the wake of Charlie's assassination. So proud of it. And for the record, this is a weird thing to say, since this was the text Candace sent after that story published, and inconsistent with how Kirk spoke publicly about me. And we've dealt with Bradnees-a-Draudsony before in some stories. very smart, a relatively fair person, but she still has that, you know, pepper in her insults. But Candace runs on vibes. And for an audience with a very short memory and attention span,

it seems to be working out. She shows an out-of-context message of be thanking her for after, like, not including my family members when she was going after them and sending them emails. And then she shows Charlie not complimenting her, just saying she's relatively smart. I'd agree with that. She's relatively smart. We thought that she was a decent person when we said, down with her and then saw that she peppered insults and she kept this up throughout the years. So that was my response to her. And genuinely, when I sent the response, I was so grossed out that she reached out after he was assassinated because I just knew the kind of pieces she would do on Charlie and how Charlie felt about her. Never in a million years did I think TPS USA would open

the doors to this woman to assist with this piece. Like never, especially if you even just look at just her history of what she published immediately in the aftermath of Charlie's death. This is just six days after Charlie died, even an idea of who this woman is. She published, Charlie Kirk trafficked in conspiracy theories. In death, he became the main character in the ultimate one spun by the White House. It's a tactic I imagine Kirk would have approved of. Snarky, mean, soulless, and he had just been publicly assassinating. She thought that it was fine to publish that. And again, like I said, over the years, this, that was her entire vibe. This is what she published during the pandemic. Turning Point USA spent the pandemic flouting public health

guidelines, selling distrust in the election, and bringing the so-called culture, culture wars around CRT and LGBTQ issues off campus and into the mainstream. And what did it get them? A boatload of money. So, yeah, suffice to say that never in a million years when I repend that response to her, I have fathomed that Erica Kirk, the dear widow, after Todd's assassination, would open the doors literally to Brandy, who Charlie could not stand. This is only made crazier by the fact that TPSA is trying to convince audiences in this moment that Charlie was murdered by a radical leftist over transgendered issues.

But guess what, you guys? Brandy is one of the biggest supporters of transgenderism. This is a real tweet from Brandy regarding trans issues. She wrote, spent weeks talking to doctors who treat trans kids A vulnerable group of small people at ever more risk now as they're being targeted for cheap political points. Most of the reporting will never see the day because people are afraid.

It makes me very sad. Oh. And just to really highlight the point here, even amongst people who support transgenderism, the majority of them draw the line at transitioning children. Not Brandy. Okay? She also tweeted this.

Doctors providing, and this was her article, doctors providing care are under increasing threat from far-right harassment campaigns. She also hyperlinked another article that she wrote state lawmakers in Oklahoma holding hospitals COVID money hostage unless they strip away health care for trans kids. Why?

Because the unwelcome podcast told them to. So she is radical on the topic of support for transgenderism. Naturally, Erica Kirk and Turning Point USA partnered with her anyway out of what we can only assume is their ever-increasing desperation to smear me and all of those who are researching the many flaws

in the Charlie Kirk assassination story. So I want you to take a listen to Brandy discussing how she was welcomed into their headquarters. I asked Turning Point USA for an interview to find out what they were dealing with and what they saw as the path forward. They declined to go on the record, but they invited me to their Phoenix headquarters

where I sat down with Erica and other leadership. They spent hours with me, they answered all my questions. What I saw was an organization struggling, struggling to weather a storm that would have been unthinkable a year ago, struggling to grieve, struggling to navigate near constant threats and harassment, and wondering each day what false storyline Candice Owens will come up with next. It's perfect. And then once again, people will blame me for the fact that this backfires and people then recognize that Turning Point USA isn't, it's just entirely fraudulent in positions that they represent.

Why would they welcome her into the headquarters? Wouldn't they be like, you support transgenderism, and Charlie Kirk just got killed by a trans furry, and there's no, come on in, hours. Oh, Candice, you're talking about Candice, that friend of Charlie's? Here's the talking points we want you to share. Yeah, that backfired, like a lot. Maybe also because running to the left doesn't actually work after you spent 11 months accusing them of murdering Charlie.

I don't think you just switch teams that quickly and expect them to be sympathetic to you. And also because of the disturbing points that she makes throughout this piece, I have to point out the ever-decreasing social IQ of Blake Neff. Like just when we think we get to the bottom of his social IQ, he unlocks another basement.

He cannot read a room. Blake cannot read a room. He thought it was a good PR idea as they were promoting Brandy's piece, of course, and not going, oh, man, maybe we shouldn't do that. We're trying to say a transferee killed Charlie. I thought it was a good idea to point out one of the darker quotations from her presentation.

He tweeted this. Again, this is a quote from her. Tyler Robinson's arrest might have united a MAGA movement that had been tearing itself apart over the Epstein files and the war in Gaza. It might have provided a common enemy, a focused on the lefty posters who were joking about Kirkland.

or Antifa, the Trump administration, had blamed for Kirk's murder. It might have, if not for Candice Oweds. That is the literal meme of the Scooby-Doo cartoon villain. And so people published that. Travis wrote this on X, and I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids. Like, how could you not? How could you say that? Really? It's almost like suggesting that Charlie had to die because things were getting crazy. Maga was upset about the Iranian war and our involvement with Israel, but also Israel's Guy Epstein and the files made people dislike Trump. So we just had Charlie need to die. And our plan was that was going to unite the party against the left and keep them focused on the goyslop. But Candace ruined that opportunity.

That, my friends, is what you call atrocious PR. I actually loved this woman recap. this and I shared it across X, this is basically the piece. In a nutshell, she said, I've watched Brandi Zadrosniz who killed Charlie Kirk's that you don't have to. Here's the short version. If you still have questions, you are the problem. According to the film, you are a grifter, a conspiracy theorist, a cash in artist, or someone unfortunate enough to be adjacent to a kombucha brewer, a Kremlin loving model, or a far right lawyer. Now, you might reasonably assume that a film called Who Killed Charlie Kirk would spend a considerable amount of time examining the unresolved questions that have caused millions of people to distrust the official account,

but I have unfortunate news. 45 minutes later, we've learned that Candice Owens makes money doing her job, Bering Coleman gets superchats doing his, and John Bray sells kombucha. By the end of Who Killed Charlie Kirk, it feels like a slightly misleading title. Who are? All these annoying people who keep asking questions would have been considerably more accurate. We're still asking, oh, and one more thing, Andrew Kovah, you an apology. I previously thought that you were terrible at PR. But watching Brandy spent 45 minutes

ridiculing the very people that TPSA presumably wants to convince us has made me realize that I dramatically underestimated you. You are spectacularly terrible at PR. He's like, it is something how bad he is at PR. It is something to be noticed. A sight to behold is Andrew Colvette and Erica Kirk sitting and they're going, this is going to be good for PR. No, this is going to be great. We're going to team up with a trans-loving reporter and we're going to have her call everybody who they should be convincing to join their side, a conspiracy theorist or like in support of the Kremlin or wacky. And that's really going to turn people toward us. They're not going to think that we're total frauds. Who is behind these PR decisions? Is it just Andrew? Is it a crisis PR team? I don't know.

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Late payments may negatively impact your credit score. Individual results may vary. Okay. Now it's time to announce the most. moderator of the debate between me and Andrew Wilson. Now, obviously you guys all know that his first pick was Michael Knowles. Michael Knowles politely declined on his own show to do so, citing his own personal reasons. And so then we moved to Andrew Wilson's second option. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, take a listen. Candace Owens are offered her $300,000 to do a debate. Given the reaction, I think it probably would have been better for her to like, lay low for a little while?

Thousand percent. The going out with the sparklers is not a great idea. I'm seven months pregnant, so if you fancy a debate face-to-face, you're going to have to travel to me. It's common decency. After giving it serious consideration over the weekend,

I will be declining the invitation. The good news is that we have secured a moderator, a good one, and the moderator is already stepping in to moderate to get to this debate over the finish line. Patrick Bet David was his second option. And I know that my fans are going to be very upset about this because they think that Patrick, Bet David, and his crew over at Valuetainment have not been very kind to me. And no,

you are correct. Certainly not Adam Soznik. And, you know, they've thrown a lot of digs my way. That's exactly why I think it's a good pick. I want to remove the idea that this is in any way slanted. I don't want people to, even with Michael Noz, it could have been like, oh, well, he's the godfather to her, whatever it is. They could have kind of pitched this as like, you know, in this way, I'm actually literally am outnumbered. This is his pick. I do trust, despite the fact, I've always been able to complementalize. I'm a big girl. I can take people, you know, he platformed people that said things that were not true about me on this, after Charlie's assassination. Eric Bowling thing drives me insane still to this day that he lied so much and said I hadn't spoken to

Charlie since 2019. And I could be bitter about that. I'm not. I'm actually not. My main thing in doing this was wanting to, hey, have a moderator that I would trust to be in my home, who I don't think is a psychopath. I've been in Patrick Bet David's home. I have met his children. I have met his wife. I, for whatever you think about what he thinks and are many disagreements, that he will moderate fairly. I actually truly believe that he will moderate fairly, and that is my number one interest in this. I am, yeah, I think he's going to do a good job. What I am going to do, just to make it clear, we had a call. There was another option that also blew through, which was Joe Rogan reached out and said he would host down in Texas. I have already said my one thing is I'm not

traveling for this, so I declined to accept me having to travel down to Texas. And, And then a PBD offered. And Andrew wanted to make that happen. And I said, okay, I am fine. I'm literally fine as long as a person comes here. And I also have, just to make it clear to everyone, I have said, basically, PBD is going to be in control. He is going to be deciding when we go to break.

He is going to be the person that decides who talks and when. And he is going to be the person that the producers are speaking to when we say, can you bring something up? I am hoping that this Andrew Wilson thing is going to be like me meeting the final boss of the Real House Bros of Candace County, because that's what this has become the consistent stream of men who are being platformed and pushed by Turning Point USA, who doesn't have the courage to admit that they're communicating with these people. They send them out to do their bidding as if they don't want to get their hands dirty. These are the Real House Bros of Candace County thus far. We've got Graham Allen. We've got Paramount. not so tactical. We've got Blakey Neff, who's the leader, Slay Bay. We've got Jeremy Boring,

Viva Frey, nonstop, tweeting. And then all of a sudden, Andrew Wilson has now appeared. And he's their new horse. They're not going to claim them. We're not going to force him to. But we all saw how this went down. He goes to TPSA headquarters

and suddenly he's got a lot of money to throw around to call Candace out on Pierce Morgan and Joe Rogan. And so the public can take from that what they will. What I will say is something that's already annoying me and I am bending over backward to address is that he keeps seeding this narrative that he's the underdog somehow

or that this is somehow unfair. I'm also happy that it is PBD because he will assess and be, I believe, be 100% of straightforward with the audience is about whether or not I slanted anything against him, whether anything happened in the control room, He will be honest with audiences. And like this tweet from Andrew that he shared, where do we have the tweet that he said this morning?

He keeps caging it as if like he's in the lion's den. He wrote, this is hardly the first time I've been in territory with a hostile audience and high profile debate opponent and the cards against me. And it won't be the last time. Like for you, it's the Friday of all Fridays. For me, it's just another day taking on a terrible worldview. What are you talking about? hostile audiences, we're not, there's no audience in front of us. We're going to be in this little room. Like, yeah, people will be watching it, but you're not going to be jeered or have anybody screaming at you.

I responded, it was like he keeps pretending like he's from England and going into Aztec Stadium and being jeered. That's not what he is walking into. He has, we have allowed his moderator. We're giving him our studio, our producers. he will be in control. He picked the moderator. He established the debate claim. We conceded to that. He is officially bringing more people than I have on my team. So actually, I will be underrepresented in my own home when he comes down because I want this to be a clean victory. I want it to be a final response to these people who have been insisting for months and months and months. Oh, all of these conspiracy theorists don't believe in what they believe. They're just saying, it because it gives them an audience. No, that's not why we're saying it. We very much believe

what we are saying. And I'm glad that the debate claim is, you know, one of the claims is him saying Tyler, the evidence is overwhelming that Tyler Robinson assassinated Charlie Kirk. And my rebuttal, obviously, to that is that Tyler Robinson was set up as a Patsy. That's my belief. And I believe that I can defend that. And I don't think that there are many more people who know this case inside and out. I feel like I know this case better than some of the lawyers do, truly. Baron Coleman perhaps would be neck and neck with me. If I was debating Baron Coleman on the case, we weren't on the same side, I probably would be like, okay, and he's also a lawyer, like a little bit nervous, right? Because he will have a natural talent for understanding

some of the filings where I have to just always check. But I am sued a lot. So I don't know. Maybe I'm a little more experience in Baron Coleman, actually, if we ever have a debate. I'm like, actually, I'm the most sued ever. You know, so I, this is, this is, could not have been made more fair. I, other than the fact that I have asked that it takes place here and he doesn't smoke, I have made no other requests and I have conceded everything to him. And PBD will be honest about that. Like, I've just been like, this is fine. This is fine. This is fine. I don't care. I actually am excited to address these points finally and the idea that anybody would be fearful. They'll tell you what debate rule number one is,

a stake in position that you can actually defend. Don't go in. This is not going to be like him sitting down with only fans, chicks, and this kind of debates that you don't have to prep for because you just go, well, I don't think stripping is a good idea. And then they try to tell you that stripping is great and they're super happy. This is not that. This is an actual court case.

This is a court case that has evidence. and I believe that the people who are pursuing alternative theories, as they call conspiracy theories, are completely righteous in that pursuit, given the lack of really any evidence that has proven to be concrete thus far connecting Tyler Robinson to this murder. So that's what we'll be debating, and I am confident going into this debate. And it doesn't sound to me like Andrew is so confident when he keeps sort of putting, like trying to seed the narrative,

of like it's somehow unfair. Even his wife kind of posted, like a eulogy. Like, like, I'll share it with you. This was on August 7th. She wrote, regardless of whatever happens with Candace Owens or anyone else, Andrew will still be here in five, 10 or 20 years if he wants to be. He has a unique and special skill that nobody else online has, which is in very high demand. Nobody can do what he does. He's taken on some of the best debaters and commentators on the internet and torn their whole world view to shreds in front of millions of people. We are talking about Ivy League educated men with PhDs, political commentary veterans, people who were at the top of the debate sphere.

Andrew consistently comes out on top. If you see accounts who think all he does is argue with OF girls, you can be certain that person is not familiar with him or what he does. None of their lives about him can stop him. Only somebody with a more coherent and unbeatable worldview who knows how to defend it better. And Andrew does, can beat him. So far, we have not seen anyone like that come along.

Like regardless of whatever happens with Canada's, or what are you saying? What are you doing? Why are you eulogizing him? We don't need a eulogy. We need that same macho energy, right? The cigarette smoking guy who's just talking about conspiracy theorists and came into some money, it seems like, right around the time that he went to TPUSA headquarters. Because first, remember, he only offered 50K, which seemed completely reasonable. That's what somebody would do reasonably. He was going to go half and half with Brian Atlas and the upset to 100K. I'm going to go half and half at Brian Aclis. Now he suddenly goes to TPSA headquarters after months of dissing Turning Point USA

and he comes out a different man. He's got hundreds of thousands of dollars to just throw at a debate. We're not supposed to draw any conclusions from that. We're supposed to just think that, yeah, he's just, you know, got it like that. Let me tell you something. People who have that kind of money

just sitting around would never spend it on conversation. Just a fact. Read things like rich dad, poor dad. Rich people, wealthy people like that, don't like to part with their money over stupidity. They like to make investments. They like to invest in property.

It's the thing I've learned. I love coming from nothing and learning these things along the way of how differently they think. That sounds to me like somebody hit the lotto. And whatever this transition happened for him, it certainly was after he went to Turning Point USA headquarters and sat down with Erica and the executive team.

Like I said, let's not draw any conclusions. There's no evidence. He says he's his own horse. This just is coming from him. We'll leave it at that. And I'm sure we'll discuss it. Our debate has no time limit. That's another thing I said. We can talk to your blue in the face. No tricks. It will be a clean win. And yeah, I'm pretty confident. I'll leave it at that. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, if you're a parent, you know Summer has a way of throwing everyone off their normal routine, more travel, packed schedules, late nights, and somehow always hearing my throat feels weird at the worst possible time. I've learned that saying healthy isn't about reacting

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Like, he must have, I would assume he did drugs. That's the only way I could imagine that being possible. But also he was also jumping off of the building. He had like superhero strength that day. Next comment comes from Stevie. He writes, The hat looks like it's hiding the left hand and Lance's Man Bun. Here's what I would like to know.

I actually didn't put an APB out on this. And maybe Internet researchers can help. When I look at those socks pulled up or whatever those are that he's wearing, I wonder if it's because he has a tattoo on his ankle. Does anybody know if there's any photos of recent photos of Lance and whether or not he might have, or any identifying mark? Maybe it's a mole. Maybe it's a birthmark, something that would need to be hidden.

Maybe it's not Lance and somebody else who's left-handed, who knows, but Lance comes to mind because we have always said that it's just bizarre that the feds moved to protect him rather than to bring him as a suspect. Doesn't really make any sense to me. Lance has always his excuses I was sleeping. Oh, really? you were just sleeping, that's it, the whole day, you just slept. Yeah, he just slept. I'd say it's okay. They protect them. You know anything about that or if you've come across, I know there's so many internet sleuths, maybe there is a birthmark of some description or a tattoo. You can email more tips at candace Owens.com. Maybe you know who that is and maybe it's not Lance. More tips at

canis owens.com. Comments on today's episode, James the least writes the gap between the truth and what reasonable people will accept as the truth is already small. You don't have to sell the truth or hire anyone to sell it for you. Yes, as soon as it's obvious that you are hiring people to sell the truth to, you know you are being lied to. Zammett writes, ironically, Charlie Kirk's voice that was extinguished by the Charlie Kirk show can now be freely heard again at Candice Owens's and a multiplicity of truth seekers. Won't you join them, Mr. Joe Rogan? Are we still talking about Charlie Kirk? Yes, Mr. President. Yeah, that's going to be the new, it's going to go from, Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

Are we still talking about Charlie Kirk? Because I feel like President Trump was done talking about him. As soon as he gave his speech at the memorial, he kind of just sort of let that go, right? Feels that way. Seven Sheets writes, we love your vibes. I'm sadden to think that they might have hidden truth, but so grateful that they woefully underestimated your voice. Most of us have been here way before Charlie Kirk tragedy, but they flew too close to a truthful voice. We are here for you, truth for Charlie Kirk.

Absolutely. And truth is winning, because it always does in the, end you don't want to side with liars like i said the dollar a day perspective is harmful john big boss writes christ bless all the beloved candace you and yours especially those that hate us christ loves you that is very true and thank you for that keeping the faith with father joseph writes for those who are unsure whether the courtroom footage or your photo are real meaning did candace stretch the person who was actually skinny reality was undeniable is the cars normal size cars equals normal size person in my opinion. Oh, are you trying on common sense, Father Joseph? That's not allowed. What do you be?

The lawyer from Canada says it's the opposite that the cars that look squeezed are totally like legit. And Candace is manipulating them with AI enhancement. It's irresponsible people to share that. What's his evidence? Trust him, bro. Just trust him, bro, or whatever. Yeah. Alaska Dog Lady writes, bro, ironically, I was in diligent Zen's space, last night. He said jokingly, quote, this guy looks more like me than Tyler Robinson, except I don't have skinny legs. Oh my word, the cope. So now the jokes are being spun as fact. Who are the conspiracy theorists? I know. I can't wait for that. I can't wait for whatever they're going to say about us putting in another person or recreating it. That's going to be so nutty and fun to play on

the show. Stand by. Easy Hammer writes, what if Lance was supposed to be the patsy? He asked Tyler to take his spot for whatever reason. If Lance had been there, maybe they would not have compressed the photos. I think Lance, and this is strictly my opinion, which I have asserted from the very beginning of this investigation, is a Fed assets. I think he is exactly, and this is according to speaking with his family members, the kind of person who would get caught up in internet garbage that would render you able to be blackmailed by the feds. and that's the kind of person he strikes me as, according to my independent research into his character. He was into weird internet stuff. And yeah, and the way they instantly moved

to protect him. If they had done a meaningful, like, hey, we're going to also detain Lance for a very long time and we're going to investigate before we assume that this guy is in as they instantly moved to protect him. You know, his whole demeanor when we watched his prepared statements during a preliminary hearing. It felt to me like he was not happy about what he had to do, that he knew he had to lie for some reason. Again, this is how I'm watching this and how I'm reading his character. The only time it seemed like he was very obviously telling the truth and comfortable was when they asked him about gaming and about what games they played. You could see he just sort of loosened up a bit. And I was like, this is a person who has been coached. He has to say certain

things and I read them as a better al-asset. That's just how I feel. And yeah, of course, then there's just all of the evidence pointing to the fact that Lance could be involved in a bigger way. In Toronto, every arrival is a statement and nothing says it better than this. Cadillac Optic was the number one selling luxury EV in Canada for 2025. Find your rhythm across a seamless 33-inch display and an immersive 19 speaker AKG surround audio system. This city demands agility, an optic delivers with precision to make every drive extraordinary. Let's take the Cadillac. Find out more at Cadillac Canada.ca.

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And we just didn't realize it was under his shirt. Well, then guys, you're going to have to explain why he was dragging the bottom of his foot. Like, you can't just move the gun and say, let me show you now that everyone's like, clearly there's no gun in his pants. You can't then pivot and be like, well, no, it was up higher on his waist, because then you've got to explain why he's dragging his foot, silly. They just, this is what happens when you lie. Then it just gets more absurd. They have to just keep filling in a bunch of holes, and they're not capable of doing that.

And that's where we are at right now. And I think that they know that I have more. They know that. I needed to see where everyone was at. And now I see where everybody is at. UFO 120 writes, Andrew Wilson never served in the military. And according to Baron Coleman's reporting on August 9th,

he misrepresented his military service. He never did. I also wonder how many of the PhDs, his wife claims he earned her actual legitimate. I did read something. I didn't know about this. I mean, I didn't know who Andrew Wilson was, to be fair. I did hear about this like stolen valor thing. It is interesting. I did someone sent me the tweet that his wife wrote years ago saying that he was a sniper in the army. I don't know that you can just tweet that and then delete that and then say nevermind to that or something. He was like, I think she tweeted like, I'm just so grateful that my husband's a sniper in the army, it comes in handy or something.

And then I saw, they said that he then denied that or said he only spent some time in the army. Maybe he was sniper in the army. I don't know. I don't know anything about him. I'm going to learn a lot about them, though. I'll tell you that much. By Friday, I will know a lot more about Andrew Wilson

because that's what it means to prepare for any debate. You should always over prepare for any debate. Donna writes, Candace, is your security team good enough to detect nanotechnology that they leave behind, hidden somewhere, the bathroom, the kitchen, the patio, to spy, were to use as a lot of, a weapon, we actually strangely just do sweeps a lot. My husband just does that. Like even before things got like this, he just is a person who just believes in doing that. But beyond that,

people who were like, are you concerned about that? We are moving very soon. We have been in the process of looking for a new home, actually for a new couple of years. But we sped that up when the psycho group 94, 95, 92 people, group 92, like now when they started and Laura was publishing and they're looking for pictures of my kitchen. We sped that up and just got rid of everything and started fresh. And so we'll be gone soon. We're not really too concerned about that. I also did not at all feel in any way like, oh my God, I could not let Andrew into my house. I did not get that feeling. I'm not intimidated by Andrew Wilson, I guess is the best way to say this. And like I said, with PBD, I've been to his house. I do not strike him as that kind of person.

person. So I know some people, you guys are, I'm grateful that you guys are always very concerned for me. I deeply appreciate that. And I do go with my gut instincts on things. I am not as paranoid, maybe because my husband is always paranoid for me anyways. So he takes, he takes good care of that stuff on the security front, on the security end. If someone pulls the BB, as we call it, Bibi notoriously, if you don't know the story, went to see the then prime minister, which was Boris Johnson, and he pretended he had to go to the bathroom and tried to bug the bathroom. And then they swept after and found the bug that Bibi planted. That's just so Bibi Netanyahu.

It's just absolutely hilarious. Coco goes off rights. Can we please talk about Rob McCoy telling Darren Tyler a couple of days ago that Charlie wanted him to start turning point Israel? Like, be so for real. Thank you for everything you do, Candace. you are our voice. I forgot to get to that Rob McCoy interview. I did see that trending. I actually haven't seen it yet.

I will happen take a look at it and maybe we'll pull it into tomorrow's show. Also want to remind you guys, we are not having our regular show on Thursday as we have to flip the whole studio to accommodate the debate on Friday. We want to run some tests and stuff so we're not going to drive ourselves crazy.

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