Candace - Liars Who Lie: TPUSA Tried To Scrub THIS SCANDAL From The Web. Katie Zacharia Comes Clean (Kinda).

Episode Date: October 15, 2026

TPUSA tried a cash grab off the vandalized Charlie Kirk statue, Katie Zacharia tells us she didn't pass the bar, another Turning Point scandal happened in Idaho, and Trump calls off the firing squad live streaming plans. 00:00 - Start. 01:31 - Governor Cox schedule. 09:31 - Another TPUSA arrest. 16:22 - Turning Point action goes broke and cash grabs over vandalized statue. 27:02 - Katie Zacharia explains why she didn't pass the bar exam. 34:32 - Trump calls off the firing squad live stream. 41:46 - Comments. PreBorn!​​ ​ To donate, dial #250 and say they keyword “BABY" or by visiting https://preborn.com/candace The Wellness Company​ Visit https://www.twc.health/CANDACE code CANDACE saves 15%. Get your 3-in-1 Ultimate Spike Detox from The Wellness Company. Available OUTSIDE USA Cozy Earth​ ​​​​​​​​ Head to http://www.cozyearth.com and use my code CANDACE for an exclusive 20% off home & sleepwear. American Financing​​​​​​​​ ​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens or call 800-795-1210. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99. Field of Greens​ Give your body what it needs to keep fighting every day. Get 20% off your first order. Just use code CANDACE at http://FieldOfGreens.com. Candace Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ClipsCandaceOwens Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, you guys, happy Thursday. Great news this morning regarding Katie Zacharia, the new press secretary. She's come clean, finally, sort of. I mean, at least she's acknowledging that no, she is not an attorney. We got there. But now she's presenting a rather confusing reason as to why or how she thought that she was allowed to go around saying that she was the lawyer and general counsel. Also, the reason that she didn't just take the bar after she failed, it's exceptional. I want you guys to hear. I want you to hear her in her own words. Moving on from that, you know how I've been saying that I do not like Club America. I don't like that initiative at Turning Point USA, this bizarre push to get into middle schools and high schools. It's making me

uncomfortable, given the fact that it's being foisted upon the young students. While a recent arrest, which Turning Point USA tried to scrub any affiliation from, might help you understand why I feel that way. And by the way, did you know that Turning Point action is sending hey, we're broke type emails. It's making me suspicious now about the alleged vandalization of the Charlie Kirk statue that happened back in September,

followed by that bizarre push for us to give money to chase the ballot. More on that. Welcome back to Candace. All right, so in case you missed it yesterday, I did pin a comment beneath our episode after one of you guys back home, one of you sleuths, instantly emailed us

and noticed something regarding Governor Cox public schedule during the week of September 10th. You'll remember yesterday, we were noting how odd it was that the governor had no apparent schedule for September 9th or the 10th, despite September being an extremely busy season for politicians. But one of you guys emailed the tip line and noticed that actually the governor's office just made a mistake. I mean, we're assuming it was a mistake and that it was unintentional. Let's just pull this up to show it to you guys. So you can see they had September 8th public. and then September 8th jumps to Tuesday, September 2nd,

and then beyond that, it goes to Wednesday, September 3rd. And actually, we were able to confirm thanks to that home sleuth that someone just entered those two dates incorrectly. It's meant to be, instead of September 2nd and September 3rd, it's meant to be September 9th and September 10th. So that is his schedule for the 9th and the 10th, which, by the way, makes matters infinitely more interesting because it means that on the evening of September 9th, not on September 2nd, as we had initially reported, Officer House of Rep, Tyler Clancy,

had that private one-on-one meeting with the governor. So that happened on the 9th. And then the very next day, as we have already shared with you, Tyler Clancy allegedly was the person who was selected to transport turning point employees to the airport to pick up Erica, and I'm told that this is actually Tyler Clancy speaking over the police radio regarding that pickup. So take a listen. Confirming this channel is secure? No, the problem main channel is not secure.

My apologies. I was just saying is service channel able to be scanned or can I give information over this channel? You're good. We have uncutts the service channel. So this is just Provo Service. Go ahead and talk. This will be in. info for IC.

Myself and Sergeant DuPay are in route to Provo Airport. Victim's wife is arriving at 3.30. Okay. So that seems to check out. We listened to his voice and other interviews. It certainly sounds a lot like him. And additionally, beyond that, we reported that it was Officer Tyler Clancy, who at some point that same day or evening telling on who's telling us,

a story disposed of a bloodied item that belonged to Turning Point USA for one of their affiliates. And we induced that it was likely Frank Churrick's bloody bag since Frankenbank gave an interview, revealing that he instructed a police officer to throw out his bag because, according to him, Charlie's body had been on top of it in the car during the chaotic ride over to hospital. And that just brings a lot of questions to my mind. I will say this. It doesn't even make sense to me that Frank asked the officer to throw it out. Like, why don't just throw it out yourself? I can't find a trash can to throw it out yourself. And it seems that Tyler, as I am told, told a slightly varied story to others, mainly that he was not instructed to do so, but that he did so out of his own volition on a whim because the item had been left behind in his car, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

we'll see. The takeaway that I want you to have from all of this is that Tyler Clancy laid a significant role on September 10th. And frankly, I'm just struggling over here to believe that it's somehow protocol for a police officer to toss out a bag that's covered in blood

from a recently murdered victim. Doesn't pass a sniff test for me. Especially before any information is known regarding who the suspect or suspect were, how he died, all of that was just, you know, rumored innuendo at that point. Yeah, my gut tells me that it is not standard police protocol to listen to Frank Turrick. We'll see. And I'll tell you guys that the reason that I have been sort of now zeroing in on Governor Cox is because people in Utah say that Governor Cox's boys were all over the Charlie Kirk case.

I didn't understand this. There's like factions in Utah. and they're like Governor Cox has like, you know, the Cox boys and now he's got power and he can, as we saw, give people promotions. And we had already established, by the way, long ago that Governor Cox lies. He's a politician. He speaks. He lies. That's not that shocking.

But beyond that, if you remember early on in the investigation, it was Governor Cox. That was the one telling us instantly if this was a politically motivated assassination, despite no evidence confirming that at that. time. He also was the one who put out the narrative. He was standing in front of Cash Patel and he said the shooter changed clothes on the roof. And I want to be clear, he didn't say that amongst chaos and confusion. He reported that with Cash Patel behind him on September 12th. So long after the FBI had secured and reviewed the footage. Take a listen. One more thing, Governor, could you just clarify the clothing you mentioned? Was he changing Correct. Yes, yes. So when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on,

and then he changes clothing on the roof, and then changed back into that clothing at some point so that when he was apprehended, when he was arrested, the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting here at UVU. I don't know, guys. That doesn't seem like he just made a mistake there. someone could have jumped in and said, you're wrong. It just feels like they were confusing the public, and then they had to go back and fill in all of these holes, and the story got even crazier. Anyway, I'm interested in exploring the governor's movements on the 9th and the 10th

because it would be curious, interesting fact, so to speak, if he did indeed golf with Val Peterson on the morning of the 10th, after having spent an evening with Tyler Clancy on the 9th, a bizarre coincidence. and he, as you probably can see, looking at his schedule, he doesn't have golf with Val Peterson on it, not on his official schedule anyway.

What is noted is that he had on the 10th, on the morning of the 10th, an event. He was the keynote speaker at the Raleigh Connects Trade Show, which was up in Mona at 9 o'clock a.m. We were able to find a photo of that on LinkedIn, posted from the AB company that miced him, which corroborates that attendance. And then his next scheduled event was in Murray Park at 1130 a.m.

So that's back towards Salt Lake City, which is where the governor's mansion is. He was slated to speak to the staff. It was a staff picnic at the Utah Department of Environmental Quality. So we confirmed that. He's there. Okay, great. So I would offer that if he and Val Peterson did meet up for golf, it was likely before this, by the way. that would make sense just in terms of how people golf.

You want an early morning tea time, especially when you've got summer heat. And I want to state that my sources on this, that Vow Peterson was with the governor on September 10th, are solid. They're not aware of one another and the sources are solid. And I want you guys to know that we have reached out to the governor's office asking for a confirmation or denial.

We will keep you guys posted. Now regarding Val Peterson, the man, the myth of the legend, the alleged most powerful man in the state, now that we have discovered as we did that his brother Charles, Chuck, Chuck, boy over there, has some legal issues. And that's me putting it mildly. We can continue to formally acknowledge that it just appears to be this creepy recurring theme with too many people that are involved in this story. How can it just keep being a theme? And I've made it clear that there is something that makes my skin crawl about Erica Kirk and her pursuit of Club America. You know, it's just specifically the idea of the events that are being, like I said, just forced upon the middle schoolers and high schoolers, underage kids. You got to go to assembly.

And especially because I know for a fact that there are sexual deviance plus pastors with extremely checkered. backgrounds that are working at this organization and who Erica has no issue working with. That's not normal. That's not a normal maternal instinct when you have young kids, as she does, as I do. When people are creepy and weird, you get rid of them. And she has the power to do that. And she's not doing that. She's actually going into deeper partnership with them. And so with my platform, I have implored parents watch this show to be very wary of this organization with Erica Kirk at the helm of it. I can tell you now that I already feel vindicated with that warning

because something has already happened involving the president of a Club America chapter in Idaho. Or rather, I should say, he's the now former president of Club America in Bonner's Ferry, Idaho. His name is Taylor Dodd. When he was 17 years old, he actually gave a speech at Charlie Kirk's vigil. And he gave testimony regarding his experience, having met Charlie when he was young.

Fast forward just one year. And unfortunately for Todd, just a couple of weeks ago, he was arrested. And you will never guess for what? Just kidding. You will definitely guess for what. I'm going to take it to the chat. What do you guys think Taylor Dodd was arrested for? How can this?

Yeah, yep, already got it. He was arrested for child pornography. Here is the headline which was published in the Bonner's Fairy Herald. Of course, he's now 18 years old. Young adults arrested child sexual exploitative material. It tells us Taylor Dob was arrested in early September on seven felony charges of child sexually exploitative material. Officials became aware of the alleged crimes through ICAC, Internet crimes against Children Task Force, which received a tip from Discord, a lot happening with Discord and Turning

Point USA, and instant messaging and VOIP social platform when elicit images of minors were downloaded from the app. The images were downloaded in early April, according to court documents. This is referring to he downloaded this April 2006. Documents contend that other apps were also used, such as Telegram and Instant Messaging App and Threads, a text-based social media. app by META to purchase and download images. In his report, Officer Brandon Blackmore said that 116 images had allegedly been downloaded and saved to Dodd's phone. He further acknowledged that Dodd said that he had a severe pornography addiction that had

escalated to include children. Documents indicate that the ages allegedly ranged from 3 to 15. I'm going to say that again, from three years old to 15. And if you're wondering if this is alleged, well, the article tells us that according to court documents, he confessed that he purchased and watched the videos of child pornography, downloaded them, and saved them to his cell phone. But he wrote an apology to his parents asking them to forgive him for what he had done in expressing regret for his actions and took full responsibility for his actions according

to his case file. Three-year-olds. What goes on in Idaho, ladies and gentlemen, what goes on in Idaho, what goes on in Utah, what goes on with Turning Point USA, what goes on with Turning Point Faith and Club America, what goes on with Erica Kirk? Also, you should know that they tried to scrub their affiliation

from the internet, so there were a lot of broken links as we were trying to hunt down this information. Thank you, by the way, to the slew that email emailed us the lead. This had just happened because turning points dealt with it. Like they deal with everything. Virtual absconding, right? They just, gas lighting probably.

Because if you type in as we did Bonner's Ferry TPSA president trying to confirm that that was him, the first hit that you get is a local news article where they had initially placed an ad of sorts. And they got a friend to go back and just scrub the words Club America from the article. Look at this. This is incredible. Assuming it's a friend who did this. So it's like she's kind of placing this ad

in letters to the editor. Hello there. My name is Cora Nichols and I'm the vice president of Bonner Ferry's local that did say, Club America homeschool hub. I wanted to share some of the recent activities that our hub has been involved in. They just took it out. They just took out their name

so that they could pretend that they were not affiliated with it and people would not see this hit. Classic TPP USA. TPUSA today, I should say, because this was not a chronic issue when Turning Point USA began. Now, not until all the money came in

from God knows where, not until Turning Point got heaven focused. Focused on heaven. This starts to manifest as a problem. And I'm just wondering how much longer they're going to gaslight us. threaten us, file lawsuits, and think that we're going to shut up and, I guess, like, bend the knee to this? Like, no, why is everybody just noticing this? This is totally normal. Every organization goes through

these growing pains of child pornography all the time. What? And lastly, I want to add this. Before we go on to break, we should discuss Turning Point Action because Turnpoint Action is run by sexual deviant. Tyler Boyer. I keep telling you this. And Charlie wanted to fire. Tyler Boyer before he passed. That's if Mikey McCoy is to be believed. Mikey McCoy told donors this. And I was told twice. It was one of our biggest and earliest leads

that the reason that Charlie had established Doge, as I've said to you many times, seven days before he died, was because money was missing out of Turning Point action. The amount that I was told, and this is from Turning Point Insiders, as well as somebody who knew Charlie personally outside of Turning Point USA,

was that $10 million was missing. and Charlie wanted to know where it went. The money disappeared. Well, I can tell you, and I will state this, just to be fair, when I approached Justin Strife about this, this lead, he came back to me and said, no, this is not true, whatever, whatever, whatever, he denied it. But again, the source, you know, the, it was coming, the call was coming from within the house. So you either believe a turning point employee or you don't believe a turning point employee

that this was going on. Well, guess what? Updated today and appears that Turning Point Action is suddenly out of money, and I told you this was an interesting lead because Turning Point Action brings you back to Erica's mother. Superfeed. Lori Fransbe and Tyler Boyer worked together. They have known each other since before Charlie was ever in the picture. I had wondered out loud if whether or not when Charlie began on this pursuit to find the money, if he realized that something was going on, that the money was funny. that Lori Franz Faye and Tyler Boyer maybe did something funny with the money. I don't know.

And I can tell you that today, it appears that that situation, which Justin's tribe said definitely was not happening, could potentially be happening at Turning Point Action. At the very least, we can establish that they're out of money. They say they spent it all on ballot chasing initiatives. I'm going to show you that. But I do want to say before I show you the email that they sent out, I sensed this was coming just on the basis of staff.

Statue Gate. You guys remember Statue Gate? Back in September, you might recall, it was actually Tyler Boyer himself. He presented the newly erected Charlie Kirk statue in front of headquarters. And within 72 hours, the statue was like one year we're erecting the statue in Memorial of Charlie. And they said over the weekend at 1 a.m. in the morning, the statue was vandalized by the left. How did they know? Well, we don't know how they knew it was left. But of course, it had red spray paint. and really sadistic writing. They said it's the left. bizarrely, they didn't want to share any of the surveillance footage with the public. I said, it's weird. Everybody knows Turning Point USA headquarters is under heavy surveillance,

especially because of the assassination. The employees feeling unsafe. They have heavy surveillance. Who would be so dumb? Even if they're on the left, why are we saying it's left? I still have no clue. To go ahead and to do this

and expect not to be caught. And when we asked for surveillance footage, when we asked for details, hey, can you tell us what car, the public can help? There's a lot of slews out there. Clearly, somebody had to drive onto your campus to do this. We got nothing, except the one thing that they did want to share immediately, links and requests for us to donate specifically

to their ballot chasing initiative via turning point action. It was exactly like the Trump ballroom demands after the White House correspondent's dinner shooting, very coordinated messaging. Oh, shots fired. Trump needs his ballroom. We're like, that's weird. Why are you saying he needs a ballroom? Like, how about is everybody okay? What happens? Why are you instantly trying to propagandize until he needs a ballroom as a solution? Well, after Statuegate turning point USA's response was to direct people not to the tax deductible charitable arm, the 501C3. but rather to Tyler Boyer's turning point action 501C forearm. Take a listen to jog your memory here. I will tell you what the enemy intended for evil, God is using for good.

I want to praise so many of you out there. After this news broke, the Commit 100 program that we've been pushing on this program is surging. So do not let evil win. Use this as motivation to get involved, to be a part of the solution. We cannot let evil ghouls win the day. We cannot be intimidated.

We cannot be cowed. Never surrender. So go do your part. Be a part of the solution. Be a part of something bigger than yourself, as Charlie would always say. Go to tpaction.com slash 100. TPaction.com slash 100. If we have the graphic, I know we had that QR code from last week.

Please throw it up. But get involved. The people have surged to our commit 100 program. And so God bless you guys. And we even have some friends of Charlie and, America that have put up $10,000 reward. If anybody has a tip that they can send law enforcement that leads to the arrest of the vandals who did it.

Update the vandals who did this. The tips apparently did not work. They have not caught the person. And yes, Tyler Boyer reinforced this on X as well. Here was his tweet at the time. After what the left did to our headquarters today, we have a surge of volunteer signing up to come to Eric Arizona or commit 100. This is our program to chase 100 ballots this October. We will give you a room in training to help us win. You can register here. Just pushing these links to the ballot chasing initiative. Well, guys, that was last month. People had questions. There's been no update. Of course, why would they give us more information on that? Seems like they don't even want to catch the vandals. But the update on turning point action, which also has a turning point pack, is associated with it, affiliated with it.

is that they have no more money. Here's the email that they sent out. Hey, Patriot, here's the rundown. September was our busiest and best month yet. More doors knocked, more relationships built, more ballots chased, more momentum than we've ever had in a single month. And because of that success, we've burned through our financial resources faster than planned. Oh, please keep the ballot chasers working. Sign up. Give us your money. Ah, okay, got to say, the entire stuff. statue situation. It's giving Jesse Smollett to me now. It is. I feel like maybe didn't go down the way that we were being told. But I'm just going to offer that. I feel like they could have caught this person by now. I feel like they could have released information to the public. I feel like their

impulse to tell us to sign up to chase ballots feels wrong to me and given everything that we know about how Charlie felt about turning point action allegedly, which I will again say Justin's Triv disputes, but people who worked at Turning Point USA dispute with Justin Strife says, it feels like they need money and like maybe some more money disappeared again from turning point action. Maybe. I don't know for a fact, but I'm telling you my instincts about the statue is that we're not being told the entire story and that it was meant to be a fundraiser push. And we shouldn't let that story go. Bobby sauce, it has been. hammering that, he brings it up all the time, and he is correct to keep that story in the public

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I don't know. It's just, it's so crazy that they tried it. And then they sent out the influencers to try to influence us into thinking that she's super qualified. The craziest part of the story is you don't have to pretend to be a lawyer to be the press secretary. So that's a requirement to be the press secretary. We had Anthony Scaramucci as the press secretary. I don't know why you would need to say that you're an attorney outside of your own ego and then try to gaslight us with an answer of like China.

In China, I did the thing when somebody asks you explicitly, how long was this going to go on for? And then we get like always when we noticed the lie. we get yelled at by neocons on the internet. But Kate Zacharia, she's now come clean. She has come clean. She says it was a mix-up. Not a traditional mix-up, I would say. Like, I don't know if I've ever mixed up thinking that I was like a licensed professional.

Like, oh, I thought I was a doctor. I got a little confused. I thought I was a lawyer. I got a little bit confused. Really, is it a mix-up? I don't know. I'll let her tell you guys the story. But anyways, the Wall Street Journal broke the news that she did not pass

the bar exam. She now can admit that that did not happen, but the confusion really stems because she had consulted with Pepperdine's president as to how to identify herself. And she was told that as long as she didn't use the words attorney or Esquire, she was okay to say that she was a lawyer. I don't know why Pepperdine's president would tell her that that was okay. Beyond that, I also want to be clear that on her LinkedIn, she has herself listed as a general counsel. Like, that's not, like you didn't, this doesn't feel like a mistake. But I'm open to hearing Katie as to how she arrived at the conclusion that she was a lawyer and why it was okay. And you should hear her too. First, let's just watch the super cut of her saying she's a lawyer. To be able to take information,

especially as a lawyer and a former corporate lawyer in China for three years. And I mean, I am a lawyer and I'm a rigorous researcher. And I spend the better part of 2020 and 2021 researching this because I lost friends and family. I would love to see justice. As a lawyer, the procedural steps are absolutely critical to ensure that they get this right. And that each has the ability to both the state can prosecute and lay out their case and also the defense can respond accurately. And I love to be able to break that down. I'm a lawyer.

And these types of issues are so tangible for people. Because he wrote a book called The Real Anthony Fauci, which I read cover to cover, to substantiate all of the theories that were actually not theories, the known facts about him, and was able to make a case because that's what we do as lawyers for the reason why I would not take anything Fauci recommended. Sounds like she thinks she's a lawyer. Well, gratefully, she sat down with Jack Posobic. to further explore what actually happened behind the scenes.

And she's going to say a lot of words, a lot of words. Try to follow along. Take a listen. I think it's important to have the context of my husband and I had a long-distance relationship only from he lived in Beijing, China. He was already there. He was already there. His dad introduced us to each other.

His dad was an adjunct professor at Pepperdine Law. And he, do you want to meet my son? And I met his son. And his son lived in Beijing. And so it was long distance while I did law school. And he was in private equity, an American private equity company in China. I had already pre-registered to take the bar. And I didn't want to withdraw from that.

And we knew we would be moving out to China. And I was obviously incredibly distracted and overwhelmed and excited for finally being married to someone who had been long distance from for at least a year, a year and a year. half when you include the engagement. And we just said, let's, let's take this time and I'll take the bar and see what happens. The results are somewhat inconsequential because I knew I wouldn't need the bar in China. And we left for shortly thereafter. And after moving to China, I didn't, I didn't really think much of the bar results or consider that something that I needed to focus on and I was offered a job at an international practice division of a Chinese law firm called

Zhonglin law firm. And the international practice were four associates under a senior partner. And we worked the international side, the English language side, and we had a Chinese counterpart that was there. There's no Chinese bar. I had enough credentials, which was my law degree, to be able to do this practice. And these were multi-million dollar shareholders agreements and transactions that were cross-border. And I had all the necessary requirements to do that.

And I was able to do it effectively and well and have goaling recommendations from the senior partner who oversaw my time there. So when you eventually do come back, and I'm just doing the timeline here, you eventually do come back, why didn't you decide to go back and try the bar again? Well, when we move back, Jack, we got a surprise baby. Our first baby is, this is his birthday today. and he is 12 years old. And we got pregnant and we decided, all right, well, we're going to stay in the United States. And we are not going to move back abroad. Does it make any sense to me?

What's a surprise baby, by the way? I've heard of surprise pregnancies. I've never heard of a surprise baby because usually you're surprised. You find out you're pregnant and then you've got nine and a half months and the baby comes. So why would that stop you from taking the bar? I don't understand that. What is a surprise baby? What is a surprise baby? A.

And B, how does that prevent you from taking the bar when you have no kids? It doesn't. I actually checked. I was like, are you prevented if you failed? Do you have to wait a certain time? No, it says that you can take it the next time it's administered. The bar is administered twice a year. According to just a little bit of research I did today since it's administered twice a year and you can just keep taking it.

and she told him that when they got back to America, she decided not to because they had a surprise baby, like a stork dropped it off or something. And no, also, by the way, I do want to say this, even if you have a baby, you can take the bar exam. I checked. There doesn't seem to be any preclusions. If you are pregnant, if you have a child,

if you have two children, three children, four children, doesn't make any sense as to why she then continued to describe herself as an attorney Yeah, so we're just going to go with that. Like I said, I think I like her now. I think I like her now because she just says a lot of words and says nothing. So I think she's highly qualified to represent what the Trump administration has become, which is just a group of liars, right?

By the way, in case you were following the administration and, you know, Pete Hegseth, who tries to pretend to be tough, he just kind of is always jogging with people in the military. Oh, I'll jog with you at 5 a.m. Never mind. and then I'm going to send you to die for Israel, right? Well, one of his recent tough guy things was, we are going to be executing the Fort Hood shooter and we're going to live stream it.

Like, what? What are we even speaking about right now? We used to be a civilized society and debate the death penalty in general. Like, do you support death penalty? Why you support it? Why you don't support it? Now we are suddenly at this radical point

where people are trying to say, say it is totally legitimate for us to just live stream the death. Like that's a totally normal thing to want to watch someone die. The Ford Hood shooter, by the way, obviously not an innocent person. He murdered a lot of people. And you can say, I believe that he should be put to death. That's totally fine. But to then take the extreme of saying, I want to watch him die, it's like when we had people who were at first like, oh, I'm pro-choice because I learned in school, that's a clump of cells. And then we suddenly had women who were wearing t-shirts. They're nine months pregnant like I am and they're like, still not a baby, I'll kill it.

And my producer had mentioned to me it's like somebody being like, no, I want to watch you ripped the baby from my womb. Lim for limb for lint. This is where we're at now. And we're trying to pretend that this is conservative. People are trying to make theological arguments. Oh, well, this is what, guys, we don't live in a theocracy. We don't live in a bureaucracy. The Epstein class is in power.

So you empower them to just start live executing people, right? This Bolshevik generation of people that are in control right now who have a penchant for harming children. And I feel like we're going to very quickly arrive upon a slippery slope. But you know who else thought that so brilliant ahead of his time about what would happen if the, so to speak, Epstein class got that kind of power? Charlie Kirk, take a listen. I would say in America I would oppose the death penalty for a very specific reason. reason because right now the trend is this current government will use any power we give them against us. And this is the Patriot Act argument, right? The moral argument, I'm totally on board.

If we had a government that was ethical and understood, you know, duty and use... You're saying just you think the government's so far gone that they could in the... Practically right now in America, I think we should oppose the death penalty. We should. Because they could start executing Charlie Kirk's of the world. No, they would. They absolutely, I mean, they would... Maybe. I don't know if it's that far gone. I mean, like, it's pretty bad. I'm just saying, you know, no, no, it's that bad. They did execute Charlie Kirk. They're not doing it yet, at least. What, the death penalty part? Yeah, they barely carry out the death penalty at all.

No, because right now, opposing the death penalty fits their agenda, which is to try to have compassion supersede justice. Right? But make, make no mistake, as soon as the actual Bolsheviks take over, they're going to want to bring back the geek. Right. I'm going to come to this table. The idea that Michael Knowles and Charlie could still be in a gulag on Alba is like, no, no, no, we got to wipe him off. He's still a threat. He's still. He's still. Yeah, we don't get the vacation to Alba. That's probably true. That's probably true. Agreed. Agreed. And of course, Charlie was not speaking about Pete Heggseth. He was not speaking about Donald Trump. And that was not what he was thinking. And yet his words carry weight, especially because he was assassinated by, in my opinion, I'm allowed to have an opinion. The Epstein class put him, killed Charlie Kirk. Set up his assassination. That's my viewpoint. I don't believe Tyler Robinson did it alone on a rooftop. And you do not want to empower the Epstein class to go around and commit executions based on what they deem to be worthy of live streaming these executions. It's so dark and Epstein coded. And it made me sick of this evening of debate. But yes, tell you quickly, Trump did issue a truth social post where he established that Nidal Malik Hassan, who was the former U.S. Army. major turned traitor, would not be executed. It would not be live streamed. And he wrote a long post. He said he was scum, but there are well-meaning people who would rather not watch him die.

Also, he's paraplegic. I don't know how that's going to play on TV. Why people are like suddenly wanting to watch that. You were a person who maybe was related to someone who was killed by him. You might say, I want to watch him die. But just generally people, like, like, you know, Andrew Wilson, oh, I can't wait to watch. Yeah, I bet you can't wait to watch. This is like a state-sponsored snuff pornography. It was very weird to me to hear people just clamoring to watch somebody's soul leave their body. Like it's a disturbing place that we're at in America where that's even a debate. And like I said, it is not a theological question because we don't live in a theocracy. Anyway, he did acknowledge in his truth social post.

Donald Trump said that the execution can be viewed by people in the immediate family of the victims, if they so choose, because they deserve to witness it if they want to. And that's all. We'll leave it at that. We'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys, we all know that simple, cheap things like fast food stops with the family have become out of control expensive. I mean, what used to cost $20 is now closer to $40 or $50. If you're a homeowner sitting on storing credit card balances, you've maybe considered calling American financing.

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referring to the Jeffrey Epstein files, and it's a system that needs to collapse. I agree. Sound logic. It needs to collapse. Minta writes, if it wasn't for Candid's digging into all of the background of all of this, we wouldn't even know how all of these dots connect.

Yes. there have been others obviously who have been just as consistent staying focused not jumping into all the riffraff a lot of times you people on X like everyone's like fighting and I was like just help investigate or don't and that's why obviously I selected baron coleman to take over the show because he has been focused and he's been up to it and everything and we have been information sharing in the background um for quite some time now but it's um you can't ignore it talk about the elephant clipping in the room you can't ignore all of these ties. It's absolutely bizarre. And they just think they're going to get out of it by just

knowing powerful people, calling people demonic. How do you call me demonic when this is who you're aligned with? These are the crimes that you're trying to pretend are not happening that are tangential to Turning Point USA. It doesn't work. And we're going to keep going. And people, we're not going to sit here and be silenced by lawsuits. Ignore the Epstein class taking over, or we're going to bankrupt you. Like, no, my children are not growing up in this. This is not going to happen. This doesn't work for me.

I'm sorry. Comments from today's episode, we have T.J. Kurt, who writes, we love Baron, but my wife and I are definitely going to have serious canis withdrawal during your absence, enjoy the time with your growing family. You are very sweet. And he will do a great job, and I'll pop in here and there. I'm sure there's going to be stories that I can't stay away from. So I'll just strap the baby to my chest and come down here anyway.

Lindsay Cologne writes, amazed at how so many incredibly rare life choices, career decisions, risks taken, and experience points earned that took place to set you into the position that you're currently in. It is so clearly divinely inspired. This is your life's purpose and I think that you understand that. I do look back and I think about how everywhere I was there was something that I needed to see that brought me to this point. And that's why I reflect on Charlie knowing he was going to die and me not taking him seriously. And I think that I was intentionally blinded because if I had not been. blinded. I wouldn't have gone to work for Prager Hugh. I wouldn't have gone to work for the daily

wire. I see them totally differently now. And so I feel like my eyes were opened at the exact right moment to then reflect and to know things about how things work so I can instantly call BS. Like I was at Turning Point USA. And I instantly, I was going, this is weird. Why is this happening? This is not how these events go. So the journey, I mean, always for all of us is divinely inspired. But I do reflect sometimes and I am in awe of it. Melissa B. writes, it's so interesting. that we haven't seen any of the never-before-seen Charlie episodes that Erica and her henchmen were bragging about. Canis, we pray God's speed delivery and healing over you. May the Lord bless you and keep you. Thank you very much, Melissa. And yeah, it is interesting. Some of the stuff they were saying

was just stupid. They were like, never-before-seen speeches. Like, what do you mean? Like, who was he speaking to him to himself in the mirror? Like, got to be seen by somebody. It's a speech. And I do think they were going to employ AI Charlie. I mean, they were having discussions. with people that do that kind of stuff. Like, what were those meanings about? It's weird. There are so many different rabbit holes that you could chase.

And I do want to chase them all, but I know that I can't. And I just try to stay focused on September 10th and the information that we are gathering and there just seems to be never ending, but there is a picture that is emerging. Relove, Grove, right, you accidentally sent me an extra.

This is my second favorite shirt. And now I'm confused about which one is actually my second favorite. Oh, I did not. know that we did that. Gift it to somebody. That's what you have to do. And then it's both your second favorite shirts. It was meant to happen. Give it to somebody else who watches the podcast and tell them. I said, thank you. Brooke Evans writes, Candace, I have shared your podcast with so many people who now watch your show. I deeply respect your pursuit of truth and how your faith guides it. You shine light on the deranged people of power who go unchecked. Love from Houston. Jesus is King. Go Max. That's very, very sweet,

Brooke. And, you know, like I said, I will never stop thanking you guys for getting me through a tough year. I feel like myself again. I'm going to feel more like my. myself when this baby drops, the drop the baby, is he's now taking over my body. And it's become very extreme. So hopefully that will happen soon. Pray for that. A nurse, it will happen soon.

I mean, there's never been anybody that's been pregnant forever, right? Never happened. Someone just was actually pregnant forever because I know that all women who are pregnant, when you get to the end, the last four weeks, you think, no, I'm going to be the one person that was just pregnant forever for the rest of my life. And that's how I feel right now. Nurse B. writes 13 months ago, I would have given you the time.

of day. I would not have given you the time of day, but something changed for me. I think the loyalty to your friend, the pursuit of truth, is the something. Even when I am doing the medical, I never miss an episode, Gomez. Were you doing the medical today? Somebody in the comments was like, could you imagine if you went to the dentist and he was like, okay, I'm going to do the teeth. It's just so absurd to think that Brian Harple, who I worked with and who I know and who is an idiot, okay? He is an idiot. was the person that was in control or that Mikey McCoy was the general.

Mikey McCoy, I could believe more than Brian Harpo, but it's like if you are going to pretend that you were barking orders at nurses and doctors and telling them what sort of medicine to give Charlie, please don't say doing the medical. I don't ask for much, right? I ask for a little bit more eloquence than that.

C-PtN-S-L-0 writes, the bloodied bag was offered to Sean Ryan, Sean declined it because he thought it was weird. No, that's Brian Harpull's bag. That's totally different. And again, this, the Tyler Clancy story is that the officer did throw out the bag and it matches Frank Turricks. I'm sure, obviously, that it would make sense that Brian got some blood on him when he was doing the medical. But I think that these are two separate bags and that Brian had nothing to do with the police officer story, which we are still. broading. So if you know, you have any information pertaining to Tyler Clancy, we would like to hear it. Any more information that you feel that we should know? As I said, we already went out to him for a comment before we published. We will let you know what we hear back from Governor Cox's office. You know more information about Governor Cox and promotions. I did see one in my inbox, which we will report on next week,

another promotion, timely promotion that came in October that was tangential to Charlie on the 10th. please email us more tips at canisowns.com and we still still are looking for information I'm going to have to put a bounty up on it aren't I? Information pertaining to who the fire captain was who performed CPR on Charlie when he arrived to the hospital met them at the hospital according to the UVU independent review there was a fire captain. I'd like to know who that fire captain was. We learned from the report that they were from Fire Station 2, I believe.

Don't quote me on that, but something too. I think it was Fire Station 2 in Orum. Maybe it was Provo. But the point is, is we don't know who that fire captain is who performed CPR, and we find it to be very odd that neither Frank Turrick, in as many iterations of what happened, nor Brian Harpole, in his super fantastic story of all that he did,

mentioned a fire captain who gave CPR. I am told that this information is intentionally being hushed. And I can't figure out why. Because that person would be a hero. You try to save Charlie Kirk's life. I can't figure out why they are trying to keep this information locked down. So please email us if you know more tips at canisotestowns. com again we want someone with direct knowledge not people that are guessing based off of research um

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