Candace - MATRIX REVELATIONS: Erika Kirk Speaks. Zionists Lie About Charlie. | Candace Ep 257

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Ben Shapiro woke up and chose violence this morning by putting me in an anti-Tucker montage, Erika Kirk sits down with Jesse Watters, and Kash Patel is now officially the most embarrassing human in the Unites States. 00:00 - Start. 01:08 - Zionist attack Tucker and lie about Charlie's legacy. 27:07 - Erika Kirk speaks. 35:28 - Kash Patel embarrasses himself on X. 44:20 - Comments. GoldCo​​​ ​ Get a FREE gold & silver kit! #goldcopartner http://www.candacelikesgold.com Dose​ Get 35% off your first month subscription with promo code CANDACE at http://www.DoseDaily.co/Candace American Financing​​ ​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Seven Weeks Coffee​​ Save up to 25% with promo code 'CANDACE' at http://www.sevenweekscoffee.com/Candace Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He put me in his anti-Tucker montage monologue. We'll see what he had to say in a little bit. and it just so happens to be exactly what every Zionist has had to say in the last 24 to 48 hours, almost as though it's scripted. In other news, Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse Waters. Now the full interview has not yet aired, but it's already going viral, just a preview clip of it, and we're going to discuss it. And lastly, Cash Patel is now officially the most embarrassing human being in the United States. Welcome back to Candace. So obviously a major theme of this podcast is that everything truly is fake and gay.

And people that listen to this podcast have already accepted that. The question really is just now, how fake are we talking? What shade of gayness are we talking? And I think we should start with the Lindsay Graham shade, which he threw at American voters. So what happened was he was on stage at the Republican Jewish Coalition. He and many others, by the way, many other treasonous congressmen, basically directed their fire and their anger toward Americans, letting us know, basically, not even basically, literally telling us that if you do not support Israel, a foreign nation, then you're not

even allowed to be a Republican anymore. Take a listen to Lindsey Graham in his own words. I want the world to know anti-Semitism anti-Israel rhetoric anti-Israel thought is not the road to being elected as a Republican. You will lose.

You can't even have an anti-Israel thought. So if you're thinking like, I don't know, killing tens of thousands of children is not good. Well, guess what? It ain't the road to the Republican Party. Really great messaging, Senator. And he obviously was not the only one.

because we know how these things go. He was joined on stage by many others, including the very genocidal Randy Fine. Randy Fine, just to be clear, he has been so disgusting in his rhetoric towards Palestinians saying essentially that they're just not even truly humans, that even APEC had to drop him.

That's saying a lot. If APEC was like, you went a little too far for even us. Irrespective of this, Randy decided that he, I guess, is the arbiter, the new cool kids club. Like, you know, we should all want to sit with them.

Support Israel or you can't sit with us. Can't sit with me, Randy Fine, and Lindsey Graham. And to show us just how hip and motivated and relevant they are, they sent some poor interns. It looks like they sent some poor interns down to FedEx or Kinko's or UPS to print out these totally organic red signs. And the signs read, I don't know how he's going to get over, this. So Tucker, if you need to take a couple of days off, we get it. But the sign said,

Tucker Carlson is not MAGA. There's something about it that's so dorky, sick burn. Tucker Carlson is not MAGA. And it sounds so inauthentic that you know it didn't come from anybody that was originally MAGA. This is like when Homeboy, who was the guy in Jesse, Jesse Smollett went out and he was like, they said to me, this is MAGA country. And we were like, nobody in MAGA says this is MAGA country. No one in MAGA would say, Tucker Carlston is not MAGA. It's just a strange. It's very strange thing to say. It's very dorky. And they said it. They did it. And beyond that, besides printing out these little red posters, they gave those posters to some young men. I'm sure they're very nice young men. And they

instructed them to wave the posters on stage while Randy Fine of all people spoke. Like he was the spice girls going back on stage. Tucker Carlson is not MAGA. You go, Randy Fine. And Randy Fine was getting them all fired up. And he said the usual thing. Tucker Carlson is basically akin to, you're going to be shocked.

You guessed it. Adolf Hitler. So original. Take it away. Randy Fine. But make no mistake. Today, Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America. Ooh, dangerous.

He has chosen to take on the mantle of leader of a modern-day Hitler youth to broadcast and feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel, to defend Hamas, to even criticize President Trump for stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions. Friends, make no mistake. Tucker is not MAGA. It is so over for Tucker Carlson. I mean, he just, he must be shaking.

I'm literally shaking right now. Shaking. Just shaking, listening to it. It's just over. They have declared war on Tucker Carlson, which they happen to do every week, obviously. And they all say the same thing, which shows how inorganic it is.

It's like Operation Mocking Pastor. And it was very clear that they were instructed to go after Tucker. More than anyone else, we know that Zionists cannot stand Tucker Carlson. And the real reason that they hate him

is because he's very well liked. Now by both sides and he also happens to not be controlled. You can always tell who they control because they don't condemn them even when they, like Randy Fine, just come right out with genocidal language

against the Palestinians, referring to them as subhuman laughing when he sees a dead body of a Palestinian. They don't care. They support it. They cover it up. Tucker Carlson, oh no, he's having conversations with people that they don't like.

It's that simple as to why they go after him. That's also why they fired him from Fox because he was speaking out against the Ukrainian war and that was not allowed. They thought that firing him would effectively ruin him and he wouldn't be able to secure another big contract within the apparatus that they very much control. And it turns out, Tucker Carlson actually got even bigger and he became even more well-liked. and they want justice for that. And the way that they are going about it right now, though,

is especially sickening. They're now trying to roll Charlie Kirk's legacy into this. We all know, as I proved, that these same individuals were squeezing Charlie Kirk leading up to the end of his life. They wanted, again, Tucker Carlston to be gone, no longer allowed on the Turning Point USA stage, because Tucker is the natural error to the populist movement

and they want him to be canceled only people that they control are allowed to be in positions of power. So recently Tucker interviewed Nick Fuentes. The reason he did that, I've heard, is because it happens to be a free country and it's his platform and he can speak to whoever the hell he wants in the world.

Of course, with Zionists, the very same ones who were causing Charlie Kirk all of that grief in the final days and hours leading up to his assassination, the very same ones that Charlie thought were going to kill him, they've now decided to besmirch Charlie's name by asserting that Tucker interviewing Nick Fuentes is a betrayal to Charlie.

He's no longer Charlie's friend. They've decided posthumously that Tucker Carlson was a bad friend to Charlie Kirk. And do you know who can actually debunk that pretty easily? Yours truly. I got you guys. Okay? And it's just a little bit of common sense. Before Charlie died, really kind of just before he died in July, I interviewed Nick Fuentes. And Charlie and I discussed the interview. And never once did he tell me not to speak to Nick Fuentes. Never once did he consider it an act of betrayal. To the contrary, I had a very long discussion with him. I also had a long discussion with Andrew Colvette separately, telling them both that Charlie should host Nick Fuentes on his show and debate him. I tried to make that happen. I tried to make that happen. I

You guys will recall this. Andrew Kobach can confirm it everything that I am saying is true. Oh, it's such an act of betrayal to speak to Nick Fuentes. Never at any point did Charlie say don't do that because that's ridiculous. It's not who he was. But the truth, obviously, is never what Zionists are concerned with. They want Charlie's legacy by any means necessary. They want people to believe that his legacy belongs to Israel somehow. And the harder that they work to lie about his legacy, the more the world wakes up to the truth about it. They are waking up to the truth about how Charlie really felt. It's just becoming too obvious.

Anyway, let's get to Ben Shapiro, okay? Because on his show today, he took a very, dare I say, scripted stab at Tucker Carlson. Same talking points. Tucker Carlson has betrayed Charlie Kirk by hosting Nick Fuentes. And for absolutely no reason at all, I caught a stray bullet, which tends to happen. For whatever reason, they get mad at Tucker Carlson. They attack me. they get mad at me.

They kind of punch Megan Kelly now. I don't know what Megan Kelly has done wrong, but she's done wrong is what they say. And he, I'll just like listen to what he has to say. This has Ben Shapiro straight from a teleprompter. Tucker Carlson, you see, is a coward. And here is where his relationship with Nick Flentes begins. With Nick Flentes correctly pointing out

that Tucker Carlson is a coward. You see, Tucker Carlson, a few weeks back had on Candice Owens to treat her to his usual ideological laundering services. That's after years of Candace Owens saying things like this. And it is the case that dinosaur bones, for whatever reason, are always just found by the paleontologists. Like, it's not like you and me walking outside. I'm like, hey, a dinosaur bone.

And or by somebody who's related to a paleontologist. It's very strange. And then, but it was just convenient for Israel that JFK got shot. It was just convenient, you guys. Totally convenient. It was convenient for Israel, by the way, when the towers went down. I just want to be clear. anything happens to me, blame the Zionists.

Like, 1,000% blame the Zionists. Like, let that be my partying word. I'm waking people up to the fact that pedophiles are in power. They are literally in power. And that is intentional because then they can be controlled while they are in power. And they are also exhibiting signs of a psychopathic. It lets them know that they will do harm to the masses and feel nothing because they were themselves, many of them raped when they were children.

It's not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay. at Obama, gay. Zelensky, gay. Emmanuel Macron, gay and married to a trans man who molested him when he was a child. I mean fact check all true. I got to watch that girl's show. Lovely. It sounds amazing. I take nothing back. But you catch the vibe here. The vibe here is that Tucker Carlson is criminally laundering ideas through his beyond the pale guests. And Ben is using the preferred strategy of out of context clips to paint a picture of my perspectives, which I stand by. Yeah, dinosaur bones are by and large always found by the experts. You can look that up yourself. And yes, if I wind up dead in mysterious circumstances, you should obviously assume it was orchestrated by Zionists. Duh. In lengthier clips, which you didn't show, I've asserted that this entire American culture, which has grown quite perverse, it's a culture of vices that we are suffering from today, a culture that is filled with pornography, gambling, transgenderism, radical feminism, modern psychology, pharmaceuticals. If you research these topics historically,

you will recognize that they were brought to and fought by, fought for on our shores by people like Emma Goldman on feminism, Sigmund Freud, the father of modern psychology. The gambling empire is where the Adelson Empire wealth comes from, as are many pharmaceuticals, like the Sackler family, these people have their names on buildings in Tel Aviv, the owners of Purdue Pharma, the architects of the opioid epidemic. Pornography. Our boy Al Goldstein took happy credit for that, right? He's the one who notoriously said the only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we

think Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism. Pornography becomes a way of defiling Christian culture as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream. By the way, Al Goldstein was right. That actually has happened. And pornography, if you're wondering, is somehow consider how it became somehow considered free speech.

That's because Jewish individuals in America fought for that. Samuel Roth, actually, that's his name, fought for that decision in court. Transgenderism, go back and try to figure out where that came from. Magnus Hirschfeld was the doctor and the sexologist. So these are the facts, and the facts don't really care about your feelings. So please keep me in context. There's a lot people can learn from me. All that aside, I have to say that I was quite stunned

that he found within himself, Ben, the audacity to present this attack on Tucker as a noble defense of Charlie. Here's what Ben said in his own words. There's no question that Tucker has become the most virulent super spreader of vile ideas in America. And the rest of us, who oppose those vile ideas,

have every right to call him that. There is one other element here that's even darker if possible. Tucker Carlson prays on the friendship he proclaims with others. And then he knifes them directly between the shoulder blades when convenient for him.

Tucker Carlson is, in short, a terrible friend. Tucker Carlson was supposedly Charlie Kirk's friend. Charlie believed that Nick Flentes was vermin. That's a direct quote. He believed that because Nick Flentes dedicated his life to destroying Charlie Kirk and TPS USA from the inside. So first and foremost,

the idea that in order for you to show that you're a good friend of somebody, you have to agree not to host people on your platform from conversations is just so anti-Charlie. It's unbelievable. It's just, it's disrespectful, really, to his legacy. And it is simply a fact,

which I feel comfortable sharing now, that Charlie and Ben Shapiro did not get along because Charlie found out that Ben was operating behind the scenes to stop him and sort of hinder the growth of Turning Point USA in our early days, right? When things, when we were kind of coming up together, me and Charlie as partners getting out there. And I have only about 80 to 150 text messages from Charlie to that

effect. This is not a debate, by the way. This is a fact. So challenge me to share the messages, I will gladly. Now, when Charlie tried to figure out where the sudden hostility was coming from because he at first admired Ben, like I admired Ben, actually, Charlie was the one that told me you should watch Ben debate videos so you can strengthen your debate skills. The next thing we knew we were hearing that he was trying to block us. And they had a conversation. Ben told Charlie, again, this is according to my messages with Charlie, that Ben was in part upset because I made a joke about him, a literal lighthearted joke when I appeared on Joe Rogan back in 2018. Do we have that clip, Skyler, we can roll that.

Like, I can't take anything seriously anymore. Well, there's things to be taken seriously, but celebrities probably aren't on that list. Yeah, it's hard. So Ben Shapiro's right. Yeah, no, well, he's right about this, you know, but he was, like, trying to correlate, like, what Kim did, like, with Alice Marie Johnson with, like, that. And I'm like, come on, man, that's, like, totally different. And just in general, like, sometimes he just gets a little, like, hall monitor for me. Like, you know, like, it's just like, you can't help himself. I know. He's a funny guy. He's very snarky. I like him a lot. I like him, too.

That's the thing. We actually really get along, but like the hall monitor, like, I know these types in school. Like I was in their classes, you know? Like, they're just like, you're like late to school or like the last person you want to see is like the hall monitor. Like, you know, like the idea that she would be late, right? Yeah. Like you're writing you a pink slip. It's like Ben, just give me the pink slip dude. Like you know, that just give it to me Ben. All right. Like, right? Like, you know, this is a gateway to Saturday school. Like it's just like. That's a good impression of him. but specifically Ben said to Charlie that he was upset about that and that he, I, Candace, was going to Milo my career if Charlie didn't get away from me. Now, obviously the story goes, Charlie stuck with me

despite Ben's urging. We kept climbing. We reached a point where as a team Charlie and I were suddenly undeniable. Some producer in June of 2018 then reached out to us to book us on Ben's show and honestly I'm so glad they did this because in retrospect it's actually one of my favorite Charlie memories because it just makes me

smile to reflect on because Charlie He was never mean-spirited. He always was just funny. He always chose humor, lighthearted humor to get over any situation. He was never a person that wheeled and dealed behind the scenes to prevent other people from becoming successful. It just wasn't in him, right? He wasn't vengeful. Vengeance is actually kind of the vice that I have had to work on a lot, but Charlie's perspective was just laugh and move on. Anyway, the story goes, we get the invite to be on Ben Shapiro show. And I'm like, no, F that. He was so. awful to us. He said this about me miloing my career. We should not do his show. Why would we do his show? And Charlie's like, no, it's great. Let's do it because we won. Okay. We won, Candace. And I'm like, okay, fine. We get to the location. I think it was in Sherman Oaks, California at that time. And Charlie says to me, we're in the green room. Hey, will we take a photo with him? I'm going to puff my chest out and stand extra tall. So we never forget this moment of us having triumphed over Ben Shapiro. And he actually does it. and it was completely hilarious, and this is actually the photo from that. Charlie did that.

Totally on purpose. There was such a Charlie Kirk thing to do. And it became like our perfect inside joke every time we felt like he was kind of saying little things about us. And that was Charlie. That was just the spirit of Charlie. And he moved on from it. He was always cordial beyond that. He never felt any nastiness. The point of me sharing this, though, is to make it very clear that Charlie loved Tucker. I can go through all my messages with Charlie, and he loved Tucker. Not for a single second. Did he not admire and respect and greatly appreciate Tucker? And he fought for Tucker to be on a turning point stage until his dying day, literally. Charlie was not in love with Ben Shapiro. He didn't hate Ben Shapiro. He just, I would say, experienced Ben Shapiro. We all get

the Ben Shapiro experience at some point. Despite this, he always, as I said, kept it cordial because that's who he was as a person. But what I will not allow is this absolute inversion of reality where Ben Shapiro becomes any sort of voice on who is and who is not betraying their friendship with Charlie. I will not allow it. Like I said, everybody has a vice. And when I reflect on Charlie's, it is probably that he associated success and growth with money. And I believe that that is probably the conduit for the snakes that I got into his company, got into the donor base, whatever it is. Me, I don't suffer from that advice.

I don't care about money. I would gladly, as you have seen me, do burn it all to the ground to get out one modicum of truth. And if you'd like to hear something else that happens to be true, in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's death, people that were extremely close to Charlie, including donors, were very touched by a monologue that Matt Walsh did over on the Daily Wire. I didn't see it. I was too

agreed to watch anything, but apparently Matt Walsh did an amazing monologue. So the team reached out to host Matt Walsh, to ask Matt Walsh rather, to host Charlie Kirk's show because they wanted to keep it going. And they were told that that was not allowed to happen unless Ben Shapiro was also invited. And in the true spirit of Charlie Kirk turning point, cordially accepted those post humus terms. Anyways, those are the facts. Turning my attention to another matter, Israel is rather obsessed with this already failed operation to stage a hostile takeover of the legacy of

Charlie Kirk, so obsessed that the Jerusalem Post completely fictionalized, or rather published a completely deranged lie about Erica Kirk. Here is the statement that was issued by the Israeli war room account over on Twitter, and they were citing the actual reporting from the Jerusalem Post, which was written by journalist Michael Starr. They published this. Charlie Kirk, the founder of TPPUSA, will be posthumously honored at Israel's 2025 Christian Media Summit in recognition of his courageous stand for truth and his steadfast support of Israel. Michael Starr reports. Ms. Erica, Mrs. Erica Kirk will accept the award on her husband's behalf, A moving tribute to a man who inspired millions to stand with Israel when it mattered most.

The Pillars of Jerusalem Award inspired by the verse teaching that the world stands upon, Justice, Truth, and Peace will also be presented by Douglas Murray, Yale Eckstein, and Dr. Juergen Bueller. So obviously the internet was like, this is crazy if this is true. And internet, including me, I was like, this is actually insane if this is true. Steadfast, supportive Israel, this is just a lie. and you know how I feel about lies. Fortunately, Andrew Colbett, the spokesperson for Turning Point USA,

instantly came out and slapped down the rumor. Andrew wrote this. This is the first we're hearing of this. We've reached out to the reporter at the Jerusalem Post for a correction. How do you just say Erica Kirk is going to accept this word on behalf of her husband

because of his steadfast support for Israel? That's not like a casual error, is it? Well, the journalist replied, and here is what he had to say, Michael Starr said this on X. He said, the Israeli government press office wavered on claims that Erica Kirk would be accepting by video call a posthumist award on behalf of Charlie Kirk after Turning Point USA said that it was not aware of the award and its CEO was not scheduled to participate. And he is calling that wavering. I'm calling that Israel's got a Israel.

They just lie. They tell audacious lies. And when they get caught, they then gaslight. and pretend that they didn't get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, right? And it's just getting ridiculous. It is so ridiculous to watch them continue to lie about where Charlie Kirk was at in his mind

at the end of his life. You're not getting away with it. The people don't believe you. It doesn't matter how much money you spend, how many talking heads you sent out to pretend that he didn't waver in his support. He did. He did. We've been reading Charlie in his own words,

Okay, like you can't undo this. It's lost. Yes, he supported Israel throughout his entire career. And then he felt the agent Smith's coming in, pressing him and pushing him, ironically over Tucker. And it really shows that you have no shame to do it again, to do it again posthumously, to say Tucker must never speak on a turning point stays. Tucker must be canceled because Tucker wasn't a true friend to Charlie Kirk when Charlie Kirk died fighting for his right and for his friendship. with Tucker Carlson. I think that's just, that's, that's ridiculous and it's shameless. And I guess before we take a bit of a break here, I want to say that there is going to be a day

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are the people that are blatantly lying, okay? People that are just lying about Charlie Kirk. That was my reason for going after Alex Clark. She lied about the Catholic thing. That was my reason for going after Andrew Colvette, Mikey McCoy. Anybody that's told a lie Rob McCoy, bluddle over him, you got my attention. What lie has Erica told that I'm supposed to be focused on? Okay, has she said something about, did she come out and say, Charlie never had an issue with Israel in the end? He loved Israel to his dying breath. She hasn't done that. She simply hasn't done that. What we have around the corner is a big interview that's going to be dropping this week. Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse Waters. And I can tell you, Charlie loved Jesse Waters. Jesse Waters gave us the most playtime on Fox News back in the beginning. That was the big show that we got to book. And so it's a good fit. It's a fitting program for

her to go on to. If she was sitting down with like BB Netanyahu's entourage, I might have something to say. But everything that she has done has been, she's been having conversations with people who were actually friends with Charlie. Erica is also, I think, slated to join Megan Kelly on tour. Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure I saw that being teased. Charlie opened up to Megan in the end. Megan stood 10 toes down on telling the truth, which is why I deeply respect her for doing this, about the pressure that Charlie was under. And it was not easy. for Megan to do that, okay? She is still catching heat

for the fact that she did that. So I feel like Erica is kind of sending a message here that she's not standing against the people that are telling the truth. I said early on, if Erica Kirk asks me to be quiet, I will be quiet. She didn't ask me to be quiet.

So I don't know what I'm supposed to do, a show on whether I like her hair, her outfits, that doesn't feel right. And also keep in mind, that is the mother of Charlie Kirk's children. I had a real relationship with Charlie Kirk, a real friendship with Charlie Kirk. And what is left of him in this world are his two small children. So to just take a baseless attack, if I catch her to lie, it's a little different. To just take an attack on her does not feel appropriate to me.

I haven't seen any reason to do that. So I'm looking forward to the sit down with Jesse Waters. I think we're going to get a lot more from Erica. and we're going to see where her mindset is. Currently, there is one clip that is going around, and I have some unsolicited advice for Erica, and I appreciate the sentiment of what she's saying here. Let's take a listen.

The defense wants to ban cameras in the courtroom. How do you feel about that? There were cameras all over my husband when he was murdered. There have been cameras all over my friends and family, mourning. There had been cameras all over me. analyzing my every move, analyzing my every smile, my every tear, we deserve to have cameras in there. Why not be transparent?

There's nothing to hide. I know there's not, because I've seen what the case is built on. Let everyone see what true evil is. This is something that could impact a generation and generations to come. agree with a sentiment, and I'm glad that she has pointed out how ridiculous it is to not want cameras into the courtroom, how ridiculous it is to allow him to appear virtually, not even on camera, for some pre-hearing matters. None of this makes any sense to the public. And what I did say early on, I don't remember which episode it was, was I would not have wanted Erica to, it would not be my, it would not have been my advice for Erica in a stage of grieving to go from being the widow to being the CEO and the chairman of the company. If I was running the company, I would have said, let's put in place an interim CEO, right? Someone below Justin Strife, I think, was the C.O. I would have put in an interim CEO and allowed people to figure things out because it is a true statement that there's two things

happening here. There are, there's a widow. And then there is the chairman and the CEO. And that person, no matter what, is going to have to catch heat for any decisions the business is making. That's just the of the way the world works. When you're a CEO and you're a boss, if a mistake is made, doesn't matter whether you did it, whether you said it, whether you tweeted it,

it's going to come down on you. And she has assumed that role, okay? So criticism is pertaining to anything at Turning Point USA that are being directed at Erica are fair. Obviously, they are fair if they are directed about Turning Point USA and their actions.

The second thing that I would say, and again, this is as unsolicited advice, so she's free to throw it out. But in the entire issue in the energy right now is that people, irrespective of what's happening on paper, don't believe the story. They don't believe a story.

And you are, and of course this is only a snippet of the interview, so I'm sure more will be said here. But I'm getting that you have seen the case. You think it's a solid case. She thinks it's a solid case, at least, and they're saying, show everybody what you have so they can see true evil. Within her capacity of chairman and CEO of Turning Point USA,

they could be more transparent about what happened that day. People don't like the stuff that they've seen about Mikey McCoy. They don't like what they've seen about Rob McCoy. They don't like the history of Rob and Mikey McCoy and their involvement here. They don't like the video of Terrell. They don't believe what time text messages were sent or when the phone calls took place. You know, Rob McCoy is lying. In the areas that you can control the transparency, I think doing that would be beneficial to Turning Point USA.

I don't think I don't think Turning Point USA is going to serve. survive if they continue down this path of, you know, Tyler Boyer late night tweeting at donors as he did over the weekend. I think he directed his fire at like John Mappen. And Arena Mappen called John Mappin a loser. I don't think that that's the correct messaging to come out of Turning Point USA. And there is something that my husband always says to me, and I don't know if he got it from somebody else, he probably did. But the expression is the market is always right. The market's always right. He says it's about like trading and things of that nature, meaning irrespective of what your opinion is or what you think you know, the market is the market. So maybe the top execs at Cracker Barrel thought it was brilliant to change the marketing and they brought in the highest paid advertisers to do that and they thought it was sleek and it was a mate. The people revolted. And they said, we don't like this. We don't trust it. Put that old man back up there. We want to see the Cracker and the barrel or out. And guess what? The market was right. That's kind of the point of the expression. The market is always right. And the market right now is saying we don't believe a single thing that happened that day. We do not trust the donors at Turning Point USA. We've got no messaging about whether those donors were removed. We want Turning Point to hit hard, the people that are lying. Why are we getting this dance around the Catholic topic? Which, again, did not come from America. Okay. Did not come from America. And I would imagine there are a lot of people that are speaking in your ear. That's what it means to wake up one day and be.

the chairman and CEO of a major company. But people are going to need clarity on these matters because it doesn't feel like those snakes are out of the garden. That's what it doesn't feel like, I would say. And so, yeah, I would say in every aspect that you can be transparent, which doesn't involve the feds, I would do that. I look forward to obviously watching the interview. That is going to premiere in two days on Fox News with Jesse Waters. I will certainly be watching. Now, speaking, of a lack of transparency. I am everyone right now when I say that Cash Patel

is the most embarrassing human in the United States. Embarrassing for two reasons. One, Charlie Kirk was a big supporter of Cash Patel, had him on a show really pushed for him to get the role that he is in, the director of the FBI. And he has just been terrible

in this case. He just has been objectively, okay? Everything that we have seen coming out of this case makes entirely no sense from the impassioned messages written by 20-year-old gay men which don't exactly sound Gen Z to this kind of ridiculous narrative that we can't see anything. We can't watch him drop down.

There's cameras everywhere, but you can't show us anything, all of the holes that are still in this story. And I didn't think he could make matters worse than over the weekend. Really, guys, we are just not a serious nation. That's what I want you to know. After this tweet, I realize we are not a serious nation and the empire is in its decline. I actually think I want to be Russian right now after what Cash Patel tweeted. He, Cash Patel made me want to be Russian like tomorrow. Like, I'm going to go live with Putin because at least he's like a serious person, right?

And Cash Patel is no longer serious. So the backstory is Cash Patel. He had a marriage breakup. He starts dating this cute little thing, Alexis. She's very cute, very pretty girl, makes videos online. And I don't know. I guess he flew down in his FBI plane to go see her down to Nashville. People found out that he went to go see her down in Nashville.

The internet revolted and said this is an inappropriate use of taxpayer funds. Now, it turns out that he is required to fly on the FBI plane no matter where he goes, whether it's a personal event or if it's a business event. But he is a hypocrite because there are clips of Cash Patel calling the FBI corrupt before he was in the FBI and saying that taxpayers shouldn't have. to fund their personal trips. And now he's funding his personal trip to go see his girlfriend Alexis.

So the internet didn't like the hypocrisy. The internet was correct. The market is always right. Okay? The internet was absolutely correct about this. And what Cash Patel did was he wrote this like Andy Cohen hosting the real housewives of DC or something type tweet where he defends his girlfriend.

I mean, how old is this girl? But seriously, she's young. She's very young. And this is what he wrote. I'm just going to read it because it's so embarrassing that we have to read it. And then I'm going to get a passport to Russia. Okay? Here is the tweet.

This is from the director of the FBI, people. Buckle up. America's so serious. We're big and we're bad. Ready? I am proud of the work of this FBI. We're taking violent criminals off the streets and record numbers, crushing the fentanyl crisis, dismantling cartels,

saving children, hunting down terrorists, and so much more. Let me be clear. We will not be distracted. by baseless rumors or the noise from uninformed internet anarchists and the fake news. I've always said, criticize me all you want. But going after the people doing great work, my personal life or those around me is a total disgrace. The disgustingly baseless attacks against Alexis, a true patriot, and the woman I'm proud

to call my partner in life are beyond pathetic. She is a rock-solid conservative and a country music sensation who has done. done more for this nation than most will in 10 lifetimes. I'm so blessed. Sorry, pull that back up. I got to finish. I'm so blessed that she's in my life. Attacking her isn't just wrong. It's cowardly and it jeopardizes our safety. My love of family will always be my cornerstone and you will never tear that down or keep me from them. I and this FBI will stay laser focused on our mission and continue the reform that we promised rebuilding this borough from the ground up. Okay, it's like a lot, and I love that Twitter hit them immediately.

They hit him with a little fact check. People are not attacking Cash Patel's certificate another, but rather reacting to his firing of people who point out his usage of government funds to travel to her shows. Now, objectively, this is embarrassing. Objectively, Alexis, she seems like she's a really sweet girl. She is not a country music sensation. It's sweet that you call your girlfriend that, okay? She's just not a country music sensitive.

It's ridiculous. It's like me talking to my daughter. Like I do tell her she's a sensation. She's everything she does is sensational. It's just, it's so unbelievably petty. It's ridiculous. It's, this entire tweet, I just went, not every thought you have in your head needs to be sent.

This does not make you look masculine. It does not make you look like somebody you should be taken seriously. There was no question that Vladimir, Putin and the homies left. They did. Without question. They're on a group chat right now. Ha, ha, ha. My country musician is girlfriend.

She's upset. She makes commentary on the internet. Okay. Fair game. If you're going to wait into politics, then you have to be able to deal with some pushback. Whatever they were saying about her cash, okay? He's only been dating her, by the way, for like a year and a half.

Okay. Like, this is like, it's like a new girl that he's dating. and we're talking about, just to remind you, in case you're just tuning in, we are talking about the director of the FBI, and we are supposed to take away from this, that we should have faith that he is emotionally stable enough, that he has steeled himself for this investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. Like, we are supposed to believe this is not a crash out.

Man, I wish she had said to you, don't send that, honey. Honey, baby. Don't send that honey. I wouldn't send that honey, baby. That does not. It may maybe you feel masculine. in doing it. But when you send it, it lets people know that America is weak. Like, you need to be very reprimanded for this tweet. Could you imagine Vladimir Putin sending this tweet? Could you

imagine any of his henchmen immediately they would be fired? And that's why I would like to, again, plead with you guys to consider when I run in the future for dictator of the United States, to consider how I will deal with this immediately. I will, I will sentence him to a month of hard labor. Obviously, that's the only correct response to Cash Patel writing this like, I don't like these mean girls tweet. It's ridiculous. We are not serious people. The empire is in decline. So figure out where you're going to live because I'm between Namibia and Russia. That's it. We'll be right back and enter some of your questions. All right, you guys, want to remind you about American financing because the Fed just dropped interest rates again.

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Dear Candace, thank you for being a true friend to Charlie. My son's middle name is Charlie. He is nine and you have helped make his name even stronger. You are an inspiration. God bless you and your family. Michael writes that from Australia. Thank you, Michael.

I love that what I say has reached Australia. I wish that I was not banned from Australia, but you know me. I'm a super bad criminal, bad to the bone. I won't worship Israel. Sacey Massey writes, so many trolls in the chat, yet by being here, they are supporting Go Candace. Yeah, there's so many bots in the chat. I'm sorry that you guys have to go through that. We could actually put a timer so they can only post every 30 seconds, and maybe we'll do that going forward.

Gmon writes, you are a shining light in the dark world. We love you and are behind you. Don't give up or back down. I'm not giving up or backing down. It's like this, if they were ever going to steal me and make me so angry that I would just be on a war path, it would have been by assassinating Charlie Kirk and making me watch it. Truly. Like if you wanted a political foe, this was the way to do it. And what's so funny is I've said in so many rooms, like, most people consider me as a formidable enemy, but I'm a much more formidable friend. And I'm going to continue to be a formidable friend to Charlie Kirk. And the best way that I can do that is just telling the truth. No matter what the truth is, I can just share the truth. And that's the amazingness is like we just constantly text it all the time. And as I said, I have no reason to lie.

is the Turning Point USA has access to all his messages. They can tell you that the messages are real, whether they're true or whether they're false. And I, the truth is enough. The truth is always enough. Tom Paul writes, Tyler Robinson's act, act score, ACT score was 34, so he was in the 99 percentile. Thomas Matthew Crook's SAT score was in the 99 percentile,

both recent loan shooters scored in the 99 percentile on standardized testing, not a coincidence as if it is out of the same playbook. Something I want to say about that, something actually that I would like to, reiterate about that is I believe that is the reason for standardized testing is that it flags for the government people that could

be a problem down the line. It's kind of a repeat story in a lot of these mass shootings. I think also the one that was in, and I can't think of the guy's name, but it was in Connecticut. Similar story. He somehow hacked the government system and then the FBI shot up at his door and then he was a part of some Yale

program. I think is Adam Lanza, so I'm thinking of. So there's a theme here. And my opinion on that, is not something that can be discussed on YouTube. So I'll save it for my book club tomorrow. Petal writes, love you, Candace. Please claim, oh, people claim you don't have a degree, but I've heard you say you do. Please set the record straight. Yeah. The truth is that I grew up poor. I was the third of a family with four children. The mom didn't even graduate high school, actually. And my family didn't have the money to send me to college. So I took out a ton of

loans, student loans, Sally Mae loans. And then in, don't quote me on the year, but I think it was 2010, Sally May had a big collapse. And they said, you can't go back for your senior year because we can no longer fund you to go back for your senior year. So I dropped out temporarily. And then I, when I had my own money and paid off my student loans, which was something like $150,000 in student loans, which is absurd to me, such a predatory system. You're literally preying on poor people. It's disgusting. That's what you history is all about. Once I paid down my student loans, I re-enrolled to finish my last year. And so I have two degrees, actually.

What else do we have here? TB writes, it's important to be exposed to all perspectives with the right to respectfully disagree. Charlie stood for that. So anyone who is divisive over this right is, as Candace says it, fake and gay. Yeah, Charlie believed in free speech. He didn't even blink when I hosted Nick Fuentes. What an absurd idea that Charlie would have, if Charlie ever messaged me and said, you're betraying me by speaking to this person, I wouldn't have been friends with him.

That's the reality. Charlie was so cool. And that's why I hate that they're trying to make him like a dork in the afterlife. I don't say a dork as in someone that's like well researched and knows the facts. I mean, somebody that is so lame that they cannot beat you in the free market. So they're trying to arbitrarily force you out as they are doing a Tucker Carlson because you're bigger than them. So trying to create scandal. They're trying to scandalize your name so that people stop watching you and trying to

say, well, you can't speak on this platform because they can't beat you by being themselves because they suck. They're annoying. People don't like them anymore. It's not cool to say don't have a conversation. It's not cool to hold up like some donor printed signs and do a dance in front of Randy Fine. Tucker is not MAGA. People can see which way the wind is blowing. And it's against Israel because everything they do is uncool. And it also happens to be genocidal. So that doesn't help either. Anyways, you guys, tomorrow we have the book club. time ever the book club was infiltrated. I'm proud of us. Very proud of us. People on the book club. So be sure to be there. I also remind you guys, make him a sandwich. If you want to buy that,

go to make him a sandwich.com. You guys are going to love this book because it truly is very true and it's very funny. And it's the things that I have gone through, obviously, as a woman, and kind of waking up to the reality of where that feminist movement came from. Emma Goldman. Speaking of Beyond the Pale, that will make sense. That's one of the names of the chapter, Beyond the Pale, and you will know more about where all of these bad ideas happened to come from. Anyways, you guys, that was a fun Monday. Tomorrow we're going to jump back into the timeline

because I've got some amazing little fact toys to add to it. And yeah, things got real interesting for Charlie after Tucker Carlson hit the stage. And we're going to speak about that. So I will see you guys tomorrow. Thank you.