Candace - More EXCLUSIVE Footage! Another Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Timpanogos Hospital… | Ep 400

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

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All right, you guys, happy Thursday and also happy episode 400. I don't know. That just feels like a fantastic milestone on this independent endeavor. I feel a little bit of pressure to make today's episode special. And Blakey Poo, I'd like to dedicate today's episode to you, girlfriend. Because like totally, OMG, Candice is just like upset that Erica is a white woman that murdered Charlie or whatever. What? Honestly, in retrospect, The craziest part of his little rant yesterday was the random insistence that I hate white women. That was just so random. It just felt like an elephant clipping original fresh out of the Latvian nerds factory. Anyway, today we must sentence Blake Neff, right? I feel we must do that. Appropriately, of course, for the crime of speaking while being Blake Neff. That is illegal.

And in this courtroom, the sentence is always the same. Sentit you to more truth. And you know what, guys, some more funny things happened on the way to the hospital on September 10th. And according to Frank Turek's recently dropped book, did you know that? He dropped a book last month? I'm not so sure he remembers any of them. Welcome back to Candace. You know what, guys, Blakey hurt my feelings yesterday.

He called me so many names. I mean, he completely violated one of Charlie's cardinal rules of never engaging in ad homin and attack. I mean, called me all sorts of things in that ex-base. He said, I was wretched, nasty, absolutely awful. Claimed that I dislike other pretty women. He also called me illiterate thereafter on X. I just feel sad on the inside. I sad, Blake.

Why don't have to deal with these elementary insults? I'm nine months pregnant, and still the attacks are unceasing. Where are his manners? Now, I'll have you know. know that I'm actually an exceptional reader and a writer and an effective communicator, but most of all I think my chief talent is researching, researching and creating official timelines, gathering intel, and you know what. Unfortunately for Blake, I've been researching September 10th extensively.

And there are things that took place that day that register to me and the broader public as anomalies. I just cannot shake this feeling that we are not. being told the entire truth. Also, Blake Neff, his existence in general, everything about what he says that day. He can't remember what he was doing in Salt Lake City. Why was Danny Phillip? Another question I have,

why was Danny Phillip driving Blake like he was in an Uber ride? Blake in the back seat, that doesn't make sense. And after Charlie got hit, one thing that I cannot make sense of is why Blake Neff, and Danny Phillip didn't just immediately book it to the hospital, to drive themselves over to the hospital.

I mean, what other value add is Blake? You think he's going to help with the investigation? Now, I want to jog your memory here because first, we were told by Blake, the story about Mikey McCoy's quivering lip, a lip that quivered in a way that Blake would never forget, followed by an intimate conversation with Erica, followed by Mikey transforming into a battle hardened general. Take a listen.

It was clear in the moment that he was profoundly freaked out. What I'll always remember is the way his lip was quivering, which I'd never seen before. And you very rarely see from someone that he was freaking out. And then I think he literally said to me, I might be imagining this, but I think what he literally said was he's, and then he was looking around,

and then he says, I need to call Erica. And then he takes his phone And he begins calling Erica And I don't want to disclose how that call unfolded But he did that this You know your mind extends all of this But that is happening within a minute Of all of this occurring

I remember he calls Erica I around the same time I pull out my phone and I call my mom Just to say mom there's been a shooting You're going to seat on the news I'm okay You know pray for me I've got to go And I remember that call

And around the time I put that phone away and then he immediately calls his dad. He calls Rob McCoy. And he says, dad, someone shot Charlie, you need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray right now. And that's what he told him.

And I guess it's very disgusting for me as someone who witnessed this, who saw Mikey hugely distressed and then step up in the moment because after that was called, that call was over, I saw Mikey get total mastery of himself. that he realized he had to step up in this situation.

And he, from that point, he was like a general directing a battle where he was, you know, grabbing people and saying, okay, we need to get to the hospital and we need to do these things. And you guys need to wait here. I need to get in here to get information so that I can get it to Erica. And when we learned he was dead, it was, he came out and he told us. And then he says, and he says, now none of you can say anything that you've heard because Erica's not going to hear about this from anyone except me.

Okay, so he's how old, Mikey, early 20s, right? I think he did, like, was going to go to Liberty University and then decided to be Charlie's chief of staff. So we're talking really early 20s, Mikey is. I started working for Charlie as a chief of staff when he was promoted in 2023. And I just always struggled with this version of events that Mikey somehow was the nucleus, right?

This kid is, I got to figure out what's happening, what's going on at the hospital. I'm going to be the one that communicates to Erica. Who are you? Who are you? Also, who's communicating with you at the hospital? How are you getting firsthand updates from who, particularly at the hospital? And when I hear that description, we've got to figure out how to, you've got to go here. It sounds like they were then going to immediately go to the hospital.

the hospital, right? You've got to figure out how to get to the hospital. And I, by the way, want to say that that sounds like a journey that would have been really easy to figure out because they had three additional black SUV rentals in their possession. Here's a refresher on that. Here's the map of cars. Okay. Now we know that that Yukon Denali is gone, which was being driven by Christopher. But we have a Jeep, Wagonier, which was a security vehicle that was being driven by Alex Faria, Dan Flood. We've got the Lincoln Navigator, which was being driven. by Justin Davis. You've got another Yukon Denali back there

that was driven by Danny Phillip. So what's the issue? Why do we need to figure anything out? Let's go. Let's get to the hospital. We have no other value here. Check up, I guess you could say, you could check on the employees.

That's not what they were doing. Then we discovered and revealed to the public that no, Mikey did not immediately go to the hospital. He actually gave an interview, a statement of sorts to a woman from ICAC. IAC stands for Internet crimes against children. and we had wondered out loud why that would be the correct person to be taking a statement from Mikey McCoy.

Is he a child? Is he on the internet? By the way, I can tell you this, that woman, that officer has since left her position, by the way. Her name is Fia, Assisi. Fia spelled FIA. Fuller name is La Fietta, Assisi, and she is no longer doing that.

But after that interview with her, what Mikey does is he dips into an SUV, presumably to make a phone call someplace quiet, I bet it was noisy. And when he reemerges, it's time to go to the hospital. And I was thinking, still, you've got all of these extra rentals. I'm assuming the crew is just going to jump in them. No, that's not what's going to happen. But what other options do they have?

You're probably imagining, I mean, can we all agree that it would be kind of weird if they instead tried to call an Uber rather than taking these very expensive per-a-day rental SUVs? It doesn't make any sense. It would make zero sense for them not to direct the remaining personal security team to drive them, or at least one of the remaining members of the security team to drive them to the hospital. But as we all know, nothing in the story actually makes sense. I mean, the story itself features magic bullets, man of steel necks. It can only continue upon a path of absurdity, right?

So what happens next, I can show. you is that Blake and Danny Phillip reappear upon the scene just before 1 p.m. local time, by the way. Where were you, Blake? What were you doing it all that time? Do you remember where you went, Blake? After Mikey's quivering lip, because Mikey came back, Mikey's giving a statement, where did you and Danny go? I want you to think about that. I know you're watching. I want to think about that. In the meantime, I'm going to explain two audiences what happens after you reemerge. with your little group. But you guys reemerge and then what happens is they are escorted by what appears to be federal officers into completely different vehicles. It's like Uber, but where the

driver is a Fed is the best way I can describe it. And I don't want you guys to take my word for it. I want you to watch it. Seeing is believing. Here is Blake at first, returning to the scene. You're going to see Danny McCoy and Nate Walker with him. And I mean, Danny McCoy, pardon me, Danny Phillip and Nate Walker with him. And you're going to pay attention to that top right quadrant of your screen near the caution tape. We're going to go full on this. I'll let you watch it. Take a look. And just so you guys know, we slightly enhanced this to make the images a little sharper on your screen in case people want to download this stuff. You can see, there you go.

There's Blakey and Nate and Danny and an officer. And that actually looks like that might be Jeff Long. Chief Jeff Long, that's there. You can see the security. There's an open vehicle. Looks ready. Okay. Next up, we find our characters, Blake Neff, Danny,

Philip and Nate Walker and security members, Blake Hariff, Blake Gibson, and Charlie's driver. We have identified as Christopher Rhodes, more on him later. They're going to begin a group walk toward the back parking lot. It looks, it's a employee parking lot that's just behind the Hall of Flags. And then you're going to, they're going to traverse through the admin lot, through toward what is a federal car lineup. calling us a federal car lineup before I show you guys this because all the vehicles are white. And this I have learned is a federal officer thing. They drive these unmarked white vehicles. You know what, Skyler, let's actually first take them through the map so they can see visually what's going to happen. Okay. So let's get into where the cars are initially parked right there. okay and then what they're going to do is they're going to come down yep and you see that's a

parking lot that's going to be right there that L1 employee parking lot they're going to kind of run through that over past the tree line into if you want to just kind of make a circle here yeah like past the admin parking lot and there's going to be a ton of cars where you see that roundabout a ton of like white vehicles all around here that are lined up. Okay. Again, this is just before 1 o'clock p.m. We're going to show you that and I'm showing you this because it's going to be a bit blurry. So let's first do this in a labeled slideshow and then I'll show you the actual videos. Here we go. So what you have here is there's Mikey McCoy, you have Nate walking toward him and you also have Blake Gibson and just behind him let's go to slide two and you're going to see

that's Chris Rhodes, Charlie's driver. That is Danny very easily identified because of his backpack and that is Blake. So they're just behind them. Get to this next slide. This is what I was showing you sort of going toward the admissions lot. And they're kind of all just kind of under that tree. This is the route that They are taking. You've got Nate Walker, Danny Phillip, Blake Neff, and Mikey McCoy in this shot. And then making up the tail end, you have Christopher Rhodes and Blake Harreff. And we can go to the next slide. And then what happens is they divide into two separate white vehicles. A lot of white vehicles. They divide into two separate white vehicles, which we're going to show you. Vehicle one. You've got Mikey, an officer. Blake Neff, Nate Walker, and Danny Phillip, and in vehicle two, you have the security team, Blake Gibson, Blake Carriff, and Christopher Rhodes, and again, the vehicle is being driven by an officer.

Now we're going to watch this. I'm sorry if you're listening to this audio, you are going to have to switch to video. It's a lot happening on the screen. We're going to watch them walking. I've already told you who the characters are. I'm just going to take this full screen. Let's first watch them begin to move away

from behind the Hall of Flags. Take a look. You can see they're all starting to walk there on the left. Nate, Blake, Blake, a lot of blakes in the story, three blakes, actually. And then you see Chris is making up that tail end, top left quadrant. That's Charlie's driver. Okay. Now let's go to video two.

You can see them coming across that back lot. I just described to you. That's the employee lot. You're going to see Nate. run up to Mikey. Mikey puts his arm around him. They're walking, and you can see Danny is making up that tail end with Lake Neff and Chris. They're going to keep going across this lot, and that's going to bring them to the admissions lot,

where you're going to see them just in the tree line. There we go. and there they are on that right-hand side the whole crew and in the next video you're going to see that they're going to split and get into two separate white vehicles. There they are. I probably should have put a little circle for you guys but I think you can see that where they are at least. And splitting of a left are Mikey and Blake Neff

and Danny Phillip with the federal officer. and on the right, getting into that white vehicle, I definitely should have given you guys a circle there. I'm sorry about that. What I can do is I can play it again for you so that you have it. Well, I guess you guys can rewind. And you can see there are two white vehicles, and then they're going to take off straight.

Left hand, look at that top left quadrant. You're going to still see that that's Mikey and I'm getting into that white vehicle right there parked on the side. And then they're going to pull off and go straight. And that white car that's behind them is actually going to come around is where the security members, the car that's featuring the security members. Guys, while I'm live, could you mind just circling the two cars they get into on a still somehow so I can show that to them later so they know what they're looking for the next time they run it back? That's totally fine. Yeah, take your time. Anyway, so in car number one by the end, as I stated, we have Mikey McCoy, we have Nate Walker, we have Danny Phillip, and what,

appears to me to be a federal officer given the car. And we can confirm that they went straight to Timpinoga's hospital because the local news caught them arriving. And that's exactly who arrives. And it's about 1 10-ish PM. Take a look at this. We have a lot of news still to cover here. We want to show you live pictures, which we've just gotten into the Fox 5 Atlanta Newsroom out of Utah, where we're continuing to follow developments surrounding the shooting of Republican activist Charlie Kirk, who was on a campus nearby talking to students, as he frequently does. He is the leader of the Republican youth movement. President Trump called him instrumental in getting him reelected as president. It was a shooting

today and Charlie Kirk's representatives confirming that he was shot and is being treated at this hospital. By the way, if anybody recognizes and can ID that police officer that's walking them into Timpanooga's who drove them, please email us at more tips at canisowens.com. We'd like to identify every single person in this story. My question, however, is where did group number two go? We've got missing security people that got into the separate white vehicle. We have Blake Gibson, we have Blake Hariff, and we have Christopher Rhodes. Can we actually pull up the map of the security team so people can refresh themselves on who Blake Gibson and Blake Hariff are?

Charlie's driver is not in this shot, but you've got Blake Gibson. He's the one with the slick back hair, and you have Blake Hariff. And they're in that car and they're with Chris, who was Charlie's driver. Where did they go? They weren't driving. It looks to be another federal officer. And we don't see them arriving at the hospital with Blake, so we can safely assume that they didn't just follow them

to provide further security. They weren't like, okay, we're going to make sure Charlie got hit, but we're going to make sure that, you know, Blake, Neff, and Danny are safe. They're not with them walking into the emergency room. Where do they go? Especially since their rental cars are left behind at the UVU scene. And more crucially, I just want to point out, this is now after 1 o'clock p.m.

What's going on? If they're not going straight to the hospital and escorting them and walking with them inside, what's going on? Why are two out of three of those security members, and this is the biggest question, why do they come back wearing scrubs? Remember, Blake Heriff and Blake Gibson

are going to come back wearing scrubs that evening. But Christopher Roe, Charlie's driver will not be wearing scrubs if they were all together. Christopher Rhodes, as we know, is the one who mysteriously went up to the rooftop with Nate Walker, just before the shot rang out, and he leaves his car wide open, presumably. He does not change into hospital scrubs. Why not if they're all together?

I'm starting to wonder, and I will do so out loud words, the hospital scrubs actually even given to them by the hospital staff? Or did they go somewhere else? Were scrubs in general, which you can get your hands on and just purchase, ended out to them by federal officers? I'm wondering. Regarding the security, I'm wondering. Maybe people have information about that, but I'd like to know where they went. Maybe they gave statements. Maybe they went to a federal office and gave statements. Also, I'd also like to ask out loud, wonder out loud, why on earth, these virtual kids, right, just fresh out of college. Nate Walker is like, what, the second assistant, he just started working. Mikey McCoy, okay, he's been there longer.

He's super young. Danny Phillip just started working in May. Why are they receiving this level of treatment at all? Why? If you're a federal officer and the assassination takes place, why would you be speaking to these first, second, and third assistants? Why are they not being immediately forced out of the investigation? If they want to go to the hospital, you've got to find your own way there. Why are they being treated in this way where they are being personally escorted by officers to the hospital? Think of any other scenario, any other event. I've never seen that happen. I'd be like, who are you? I'm sorry, this is a federal investigation. You're a third assistant, Nate Walker. I'm sorry, who are you, Danny? Why would I, why would I

put you into a federal vehicle? And don't say, oh, because there are witnesses. Tons people were witnesses. Okay, they're not, they're going to the hospital to go see Charlie. How does that make any sense? Who, who made that call? That would make sense for his wife to receive an escort, not his third assistant. They're all, what are they all listening to Mikey? The federal officer is listening to Mikey dictate. Okay, who, who ordained him? I'd like to know. Who ordained him in that scenario where suddenly he's calling the shots like a general and you have federal officers escorting them to the hospital and why doesn't make sense to me if there's an obvious answer please share it another note by now you have probably gone on to the fact that we did make a positive

ID on charlie's driver christopher Rhodes spelled with an a r h o a d-es i also want to be clear that there is another security member by the exact same name that works for the new security team at Turning Point USA, FRG security. That is not him. Do not email me about him. It's just the same name. Two separate people. Rhodes is obviously a very common last name.

So that's not suspicious at all. But the one we were looking for is Christopher Rhodes. And from what we gather, he appears to be from Texas and he is working with Brian Harpole. I'll leave it at that. He's working with Brian Harpole. Still weird, I will say, because that was the very first person that we've ever tried to identify on the show with so much difficulty. That I know he's involved in private security and in that world, but that was very, very strange. More on that later.

I mean, I'm sure some people must have grown up with him in Texas. If you know anything, I would love to get in touch with Christopher Rhodes. If you can establish some connection between me and him, please reach out. I'd love to get answers as we continue to investigate this. More tips at candace owens.com. Anyway, you're a move, Blakey. You're a move. Because it sounded like you guys were rushing to the hospital.

And I don't think that really was the circumstance. Actually, I can verify it was in the circumstance. So was Mikey coordinating the Fed stuff? Was it Danny? Was it you? Think carefully before you answer. You guys, we're going to be right back after a break because Frank Turich has dropped a book that we need to go over because his memory is, it's getting spotty again. We'll be right back.

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Again, that's tnusa.com slash candace. Okay, I don't know how I missed this, but exactly one month ago on September 8th, 2006, Frank Cherrick published a book, appropriately entitled The War on Reality. On that we can agree. There is a war on reality now. We might disagree on some of the details. I think the war is being brought by your ilk. That's how it feels. I don't know. Magic bullets, telling us we have to believe it, elephant clipping. to make us all see a bunch of information, believe that it's organic and it's catching fire. The war on reality, I feel, is an appropriate title.

I don't know if you are the appropriate author, Frank Tarrick, because I think you're engaged in that war. Now, I want to read you his account of what happened after Charlie got hit, and you're going to notice that there are some slight changes to the narrative. And when I say slight, I mean, not slight at all, massive changes. Let's read this first excerpt. I hear a loud pop and see Charlie go down. I yell, no, no, no as I take a step toward him. But a security team is already there.

So I run along with them to the SUV that we had arrived in. Meanwhile, my son and daughter-in-law are hearing all of this live as I instinctively shove my phone into my back pocket without hanging up. Fearing this would happen one day, I told myself in advance that if it ever did, I would do whatever I could to help Charlie. He was like a son to me. So I crawl into the back of the SUV trying to help and any way I can. Charlie's security team, Justin, Dan, Brian, and Rick, men who loved Charlie, too,

are much cooler under pressure than I am. They calmly but swiftly do exactly what they were trained to do. While I'm perched over the back seat looking down at Charlie and yelling, that was my special skill, Justin is driving. Dan is in the passenger seat holding his phone with directions to the hospital. To my left, Rick is in the back with Charlie's head in his lap and Brian is to my right. at the other end of six foot forward Charlie whose feet are hanging out the open back right door. I'm not sure how Brian manages to say in the SUV as we yank and bank our way to the hospital.

Just got to get it in there. Door open, no sirens, no emergency lights, just raw adrenaline. When we get about halfway there, an ambulance is barreling toward us in the opposite direction from the hospital. We debate stopping for half a second, but think better of it

and press on, Justin hits the gas as we barge through intersections like traffic laws for merely suggestions. That's when someone recalls just enough self-preservation to yell, let's get us there in one piece. In the back, Rick and I are praying out loud while urging Charlie to respond. All three of us in the back are trying to stop the bleeding. Wait, hold on. all three of us are still trying to stop the bleeding. That's a problematic statement, Frank. Because you did not try to stop the bleeding. You've never made that claim that you tried to stop the bleeding.

Brian Harpoles certainly has never made that claim that you tried to stop the bleeding. This is actually, I would say, in stark contrast to Brian Harpoles' account, this is not something that you can tell us that you forgot or simply got wrong or you had different accounts This description. Someone is lying.

Okay. You either tried to stop the bleeding, which we were told it was just Brian. He says he got to work. He's packing the wound. Said that there was no CPR, that he's the one that's trying to stop the bleeding. He doesn't even say Rick Cutler is trying to stop the bleeding,

but you wrote in your book that all three of us are in the back trying to stop the bleeding. That's weird. That's wrong. You were supposed to be just praying in the back seat. Now you claim in a published and an edited book that, no, you got to work on Charlie. That's a discrepancy that I cannot allow. Let's listen to what Brian Harpole said on John Ryan.

The problem is we're going down the road. And Charlie's so tall that his leg, his left leg, is down in the door, and the door won't close. And so I'm on my knees with the door open with my butt. hanging out of the side and I'm on my knees doing the medical. And Justin's driving, you know, we're going 60, 80, 100. And Rick has me across the kit and my shirt so that I can use both hands to do the medical one. And so I don't fall out of the car.

So I don't fall out. And I just look at him and I don't need to say, you got me, he's got me. I know he's got me. Rick's a brother. He's got the tattoo. And so I was like, he's got me. And so I'm just working medical.

And Frank's praying out loud. Rick's praying out loud. When did you try to stop the bleeding? And how did you try to stop the bleeding? Because now we have to imagine that Brian blacked out the entire ride. Like that's the only way for him to have completely forgot that you not only help to stop the bleeding, but also for the last 30 seconds or so. the last minutes, a couple of minutes, whatever it is that you said,

you also said you provided CPR, but Brian was distracted. Well, how distracted was he? He didn't even notice that you were trying to stop the bleeding first. Again, does not make sense to me. Let's keep reading. All three of us were in the back are still trying to stop the bleeding. I switch to CPR. We're supposed to imagine three of them are trying to stop the bleeding,

and then Frank switches to CPR. Brian's going to black out at this point. But Charlie isn't there. His eyes are fixed. He isn't looking at me. He's looking past me right in. into eternity. We burst into the hospital yelling for help into what felt like an empty emergency room. And for an agonizing minute, no one seemed ready. We're yelling for help. Then, within a couple of

minutes, a medical team descend on them, descend on him. They get a pulse, a flicker of hope. They rush him to an operating room. Okay. So a couple of things right off the bat that registered to me is odd. It's not in a published book. You had no. no recall or mention of a fire captain doing CPR, which was revealed by the independent review. Where's that part? By the way, I do want to say, I fully believe you on the hospital being empty. As we said, it's been alleged that they moved everybody out a couple of hours before for reasons that are not yet clear. Also, if you're saying, and again, you're writing this, you're editing this, you're thinking through this, we can't, this is. This is,

a simple mistake. It's not like you're speaking it. You are writing a book and documenting your experience. You say you switched to CPR. Nobody else remembers, but you curiously leave out the fire captain. Who is the fire captain? Who is the fire captain? Where is the fire captain in this narrative? And then you tell us that a medical team descended on him and they got a pulse. There was a flicker of hope. They rush him to an operating room. I remember learning that that was actually what Brian did. That Brian found the room. That Brian, and I don't think he could do this in two minutes, cut the shirt, got there ready for the defibrillator, that Brian then escorted himself out of the room. I don't know. These details are getting a little bit hazy for me. Let's keep reading. I'm also

going to correct a typo in this book. He says, I embrace Don. This misspelled it for this little section. He's referring to Dan Flood. I embrace Dan. Dan Flood, the head of Charlie's security, and tell him that this is not his fault. Dan's team only had jurisdiction over Charlie's immediate area. That is a printed lie. That's a printed lie. The local and university police were supposed to have secured the larger areas, including the rooftops. That is a printed lie.

Dan later showed me a text confirming exactly that. similar breaches of security that we saw in Butler, Pennsylvania, tragically came to Utah that day. Rick and I continue to pray out loud. Now, we had showed you a few days ago when he went onto Brandon Tatum show, and he said sort of this narrative and then quickly shifted, he said, yeah, in the hospital, Dan showed me the text between him and Chief Long. And they said, he actually showed to me a couple of days later. That seems to be like a crucial detail.

When did he show you this text? Because it shouldn't have been that soon. We didn't know that it was lozy rooftop. Nobody at the hospital should have known that the shot came from a rooftop that quickly because they were still investigating. It could have come from the audience. It could have come from the side.

Nobody knew anything at that time. So it would be very odd if Dan showed him that message at the hospital. But of course, with Frank, the details change. It gets hazy. He says later, we don't know how much later. He continues. Soon, Charlie's chief of staff, 23-year-old Mikey McCoy, arrives at the hospital. Like Charlie, he carries a maturity far beyond his years.

Mikey has already sent a plane to get Erica and is on the phone with the United States Vice President J.D. Vance. About 30 minutes after our arrival, the surgeon from the OR steps into the hallway where we're all standing. His expressions like Stone, he sternly announces he's dead. No. No, I'm sorry. know we tried everything, just the verdict delivered with all the tenderness of a brick. He then demands to talk to Erica on the phone, perhaps hoping to practice the bedside manner he seemingly forgot to use on the rest of us by delivering the news to the grieving widow himself. Now, when Blake tells the story, it makes it seem like Mikey is the one that delivered

the news to Erica. Blake just told us, he said, no one's giving any information to Erica. I'm going to be the one to call her. Frank is not clear here as to whether or not Mikey is there when they find out the news from this surgeon that Charlie is dead. According to my timeline, Mikey should not have been there for that announcement. So I'm not sure if this is meant to be chronological, but Mikey and them should have arrived just after, according to our timeline. because Victor Marks had already tweeted out that Charlie was dead announced rather

that Charlie was dead onto his social media accounts and like I said this just in general conflicts with Blake's earlier assertion that Mikey was the general Mikey was the conduit of information everything had to come through Mikey

and he was the one that was providing the updates for what it's worth between the two of them I believe Frank on this I think the surgeon was the one that's what I was told

that he was the one that called Erica with the news. And yeah, I'm going to keep it at that. But there are a lot of conflicting stories in this narrative, and it makes me very uncomfortable. That Frank just cannot remember what happened on the way to the hospital. It makes me uncomfortable that seemingly a VIP red carpet was rolled out for effectively a bunch of just graduated college kids. doesn't make sense to me. It makes me wonder why it took so long for them to get to the

hospital. And I'm referring to Nate and Blake and Mikey, if you're going to be his assistants. Why are they hanging around? And like I said, who ordained Mikey on that day? If the story is true and he was the point person for all things, the question is who permitted that? And that keeps happening. It's like it's like the feds were listening to the team rather than the other way around. Because don't forget, Frank then tells a story that he's the one who told the feds that he'll be taking Charlie's necklace from the car. That's what he said. We actually received a different tip about that necklace. And I'm told it was a totally different version of events that took place at the hospital, not when Frank went back to the car to grab his backpack and then said, there it is.

there's the necklace that we've all been looking for for some strange reason, but I'm still hunting down information, and I want to make sure that I am 100% when I deliver it. So I will ask anybody regarding Timpanogos. Again, if you know who the fire chief was, the fire captain, pardon me, fire captain that administered CPR to Charlie at the hospital, please, we would like to hear from you. Again, we want people that have information.

I know we know how to research and we obviously have it down to a very small pool of individuals that it likely was. We want concrete information. Who was the fire captain that I work with him. I want somebody to say I'm married to him. He's my cousin. He was the one that did CPR that day. That's the information that we're looking for. So we can confirm we are down to two possibilities, but we want an absolute confirmation.

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And then we have another officer. driving on the right hand side, and we have Christopher Rhodes and the two blakes on the security team, Blake Harroff and Blake Gibson. And I again want to stress that they, Mikey's vehicle, go straight. And we were able to track that the security vehicle goes around the little roundabout there and then seems as if it's heading the opposite direction. That might be. I mean, my be because of where it's parked, but I am left wondering where they went. There are a remarkable amount you can see all around the roundabout. There are a ton of fed vehicles. That's the police undercover vehicles, fed vehicles, and we know that they get into two of them and pull off.

Interesting. Why? Why can't the security drive themselves? Why is everyone being treated like a federal VIP on this day? For what reason? Why are they coming back and scrubs. We need answers. And I think we have some answers. Top comments from yesterday's episode. Blake speaking again on a live murder. I meant to say, I said married. Okay. Bickleferri writes, Blake Dunneffed up. I love that. Blake done neft up again every single time. Little Doudette writes, so Andrew said guilt instead of grief, we're processing our guilt. Erica said grift instead of grit. That is true. Blake said murdered instead married. I wonder who will be next to make a slip. God does work in mysterious ways. The truth needs no campaign. It always comes out in the end. Absolutely. I agree with you. I can actually show you guys in case you never saw that. We didn't show it on the show when Erica said grift instead of grit while she was introducing the president of UVU Caleb Chilkut at Amfest, 2025.

Caleb Chilcutt, a rising senior and chapter president at Utah Valley University, has been involved with Turning Point USA since 2023. Despite the devastating loss of Charlie Kirk, my incredible husband at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same grift. Excuse me, gift, grit. It has been a long day. Trust me, you're not a grifter, honey. It's all good. Yeah, it is something. When they misspeak, it sure is something. Comments from today's episode, Alaska Dog Lady writes, happy 400 from your OG gang. The Katari money crowd seems to forget

hand-signed Kistandas Cups. I have one. And Mnacht, I remember that. This is the OG crowd. Way to grind. Truth grows organically. God bless. And St. Joan of Arc, pray for us. Christ is King. Thank you so much for being along on the journey. We have more exciting news. I'll wrap to tell you in a bit, but we're just really grateful for the audience and a loyalty that you guys have given us. Shley Walt writes, someone needs to take away the internet from Turning Point at this point. It's great to see you laughing. I feel like you get the giggles every time you're pregnant. God bless you and your family.

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Theo Vaughn is the person to watch. Theo Vaughn and Tim Dillon. Do you actually have that clip? Yeah, let's play it. Actually, this is true. I walked into your kitchen. And there was some lady from behind who was like making something on the counter or something. And I was like, oh, dang, they got a little thicky in here.

They got a little lady from Atlanta working over here. And then I didn't, I forgot you were pregnant. And he turned around. And it was me? And it was you. I didn't even hear you say that. I'm a little. No, I didn't say it out loud.

No, I don't mean like. In your head. Yeah. Oh, dang. And now you send it out loud. Dang. Girls love you. What the heck?

Yes. Where are they? There's a lot of them. I get like text messages. I get Instagram. You're in your prime. You got to go out there. I got to get out there.

Yeah, you got to find your... You got to get out there. Shit, I was going to take a nap later. I'm not now. I'm getting on my bike. It was like kind of a farmer's only dating thing or whatever. Oh, farmers... Not dark.

It was darker farmer women or tanned farmer women, and you were like the most tan on there or something like that. Yeah, it was just a conservative female dating site or something. What? I have to count on darker farmer women? Look, I don't think it's a bad look. No, that's so crazy. No, pull that up.

You make it sound very. negative. It's a good place for people to meet people. Why are you on these websites? I'm not on them all the time. He is absolutely hilarious, truly. And yeah, thank you to the millions of you guys who have already watched that episode. Where was I? Namari. I hope I'm saying that right. God bless you, Candace, your team, your family, and everyone who has come forward to share information. I pray people stand for truth for truth lies in Jesus Christ. You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. Amen. John 8, everyone. Nona, Nona's fave, five. Candace, I'm so confused with the behavior of Blake Neff, Andrew Colba, and Erica Kirk. It's almost like they don't want facts about

what happened to Charlie. Blink twice if I am close, L.O.L. Enjoy the little one. God bless you you and yours. I mean, from the beginning, that's what it's felt like. It's like they just never wanted it to be investigated and people obviously register that as weird. And that's why I say a war on reality is an appropriate title. I just don't think Frank Turek should be the author of that. Because they have been the people that have launched this war on reality, trying to tell us like, no, what she's doing is normal. Everybody or everybody grieves differently.

And by not grieving, she's actually grieving. And it's normal that she's taken over his company and she has no experience. And it's normal that she didn't feel any fear right afterward or that she didn't want to keep her children away from it, not knowing who the killer was. It's normal that she forgave the killer and can't forgive Drusky. None of it's normal. And so that is the war we're fighting. That is we are the people that are seeing reality for what it is asking questions and their response is just, well, we've got the power. And we know people in government. We know the officials. We've got the president on speed dial. We get escorted by feds if to go to the hospital. Yeah, that's kind of, it's just sort of gross. Clearly turning point 2.0 is nothing like Turning Point USA 1.0. which was a grassroots movement and that people and students followed and wanted to believe in

and believing that the country could be changed. Now we're learning the country can be changed in the most spiritually dark ways. People that are handpicked, it feels like they just kind of put the Midas touch on Erica. Who is Midas? I don't know. Someone in Vegas, if I had to guess. Pahala writes, the more unhinged Blake Neff gets, the more flamboyant he becomes. He does. He's a little, that's a little.

That's the right word. Blake is flamboyant. He's just a girl from the valley and he wants to gossip with the girls. He is obviously not somebody who could ever take over the Charlie Kirk show. I think that deeply upsets him. Like I said, he clearly had a mother who loves him greatly told him that he was talented in ways that he most certainly is not. I mean, Blake is in a way, he's impressive. I would describe him as impressive. He leaves an impression. That's that. That's all I can say. That's all I could offer. Emmeline Irish writes, Keep up the great work, Candace, sending you prayers and love from Ireland. You are an inspiration, continuing to shine the bright light of honesty and hope in this rough world.

God bless you and yours today and always. Thank you so much for saying that. It's been a journey, but, you know, we are getting somewhere. And I can't believe that we've got people in Latvia that just gave us everything we need to know about this. I know way too much about the Latvia. because all of the sluves in Latvia were just sending me this.

He's his mama, his data, where he used to work and think and blink, and it was amazing. I just, I love that all over the world. People are writing in and we're going to continue to ask you to do that. The information has obviously proven to be fruitful. Even if we don't respond, you see that we're presenting the information and crediting our sleuths back at home. I want to remind you guys, if you'd like to support the show, the easiest way to do that is by getting some merch on the website.

Buy yourself a hat. join the decentralized intelligence agency, which operates in every country all around the world, probably not in Israel, for being honest. I don't think it operates in Israel. But everywhere else, it seems that we do operate. And the information, like I said, has been fruitful. I told my priest that I would chill. That's a great hat to wear when you just need to chill and you need to calm down and not do the thing that you want to do. Just take a deep breath and remind yourself that you told your that you would chill and then chill. Also want to add, again, just to remind you guys the information that we are looking for. I would love to learn a little bit more about Christopher Rhodes and to

establish connection. Maybe he watches the show. Who knows? Somebody knows him. I just want information. And I'm sure that there are many leads here and questions that I have that can be reasonably answered. I don't know why nobody wants to reasonably answer them. People just want to threaten and file lawsuits and that does not make you look like you are innocent. When you have the option and Candace texts you, Brian Harple and asks a very simple question, you can just say no and you instead opt to file a lawsuit and claim. Why didn't answer that question four times when I was asked it? Because I didn't want to contribute to more views. Like, who are you? Like you think you're like, like Celine Dion? Right. You can't even form a proper sentence. I was doing the medical. I feel like

anybody that says I was doing the medical should not be doing any medical. If I was going to go in for a surgery and the doctor was like, okay, I'm going to do the medical. I was like, ah, no, no, no, you will not be doing anything to me, sir. You will not be administering any drugs, nothing at all. Get me someone I can speak to. I'm just going to do the medical. Open your mouth.

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, dentist, I'm good. Nope. Doesn't pass the sniff test. Doesn't seem like you know what you. you're doing. Don't even know what you're saying. Anyways, let me stop before I get double sued by Brian Hartpole. We will, uh, we'll see you guys on Monday.