Candace - September 10th: The OTHER Shooting That The Media Forgot. | Candace Ep 337

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

There was another shooting on 9/10 that many have questions about, a golden statue of Trump is installed at his golf course, we receive another tip about Turning Point using an AI company, and a few people mentioned that we may have kicked the hornet’s nest when we began speaking about Victor Marx. 00:00 - Start. 01:58 - Victor Marx responds to me. I have questions. 06:01 - The other shooting on 9/10. 27:27 - Paramount Tactical lets a detail slip about the Erika "kids" photo. 36:33 - TPUSA & the Hollywood AI Company. 45:48 - Comments. ​PreBorn!​ To donate, dial #250 and say they keyword “BABY" or by visiting https://preborn.com/candace Nimi Skincare​ Save 10% on your order with promo code CANDACE10 at http://www.NimiSkincare.com Select Quote​ Save more than 50% on term life insurance at http://www.SelectQuote.com/candace American Financing​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99. Candace Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ClipsCandaceOwens Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I mean, someone I mentioned to me, actually a few of you guys had suggested, that we may have kicked the hornet's nest somehow when we began speaking about Victor Marx, right? His alleged ties to Israel, the story we heard from Corby Hall, his inexplicable relationship to Erica. That's when all of these random attacks kind of started up against me and my family. as though they were leveling up to sort of distract us. Trump suddenly posting my face on Time magazine calling me the most vile person of the year. Really? Jeffrey Epstein didn't deserve that honor. They then send out the wacky Larry Loomer.

Yeah, let's not lose focus, actually. Colorado, where Victor Marx is currently running for governor, it is a beautiful state, actually ranked, I believe, the healthiest state in the union. The state is also rich in the wrong kind of American history. And there was, in fact, another shooting that took place on September 10th that we should briefly discuss. Also, we finally received a name of the Hollywood Deep Fake Company that we can confirm Turning Point USA was meeting with following Charlie's tragic passing. We're going to show you what this company is capable of, and I'm going to allow you to draw your own conclusions. And lastly, the admission from Paramount Tactical, Gary Malmell,

that one of the children in Erica's Fort Wachuka alibi photo is not hers is not a subtle admission because it looks like the internet was right again. Welcome back to Candice. I still have a lot of questions about Victor Marx. You know, I went off to Italy to do my confirmation, got distracted. I had mentioned to you that despite him doing all those public posts about me, he didn't respond to my Instagram message. And then he did. I just checked actually saying he did while I was in Italy, he finally answered. And so I'm going to set a time for him to, at least attempt to set a time for him to appear on the show and answer some questions. Question number one I probably have is why was Victor Marks the first documented public person to do a video announcing

that Charlie had passed long before the president of the United States or anybody else? Who was it that told him that Charlie was dead? Right. We may or may not get a solid answer to that, but it certainly wretched to me as odd. Also, when and how did he get so close to Erica? Dr. Kirk. So close, in fact, that he was in her immediate circle of comfort after her husband was brutally murdered in front of the entire world. As soon as she flew back home to Arizona,

he was there to offer her a hug in her home. I might add, her personal space. And I have since learned that at some point, Charlie and Victor Marks had a real falling out. The reason why, I'm not sure. But it was apparently bad enough, according to Insiders at Turning Point USA, that Charlie and Victor actually stopped following one another on social media for a period of time. So I'll ask rhetorically, when and why and how did Erica remain or become so close to Victor Marx? Because on the basis of the stories that we've heard about him, some of them from Victor himself, he seems to me to be a bit dangerous, right?

a tad unstable, if I may. I don't really buy his pastoral act for one minute. And we checked, and it appears that the last time Victor Marx had done anything publicly with Charlie, appeared on Charlie's show, it was in October of 2023. Hmm. What happened in October of 2023? Well, Victor Marx appeared on the Charlie Kirk Show to provide Charlie with frontline reporting from, You guessed in Israel right after October 7th. Yes, naturally, of course.

Duh, Israel. Victor Marx went straight there despite its heightened security states. Due to his contacts in the IDF, he was able to get there. Don't believe me, take a listen to Victor. Victor, you are live in Israel. Give us a frontline report. I can tell you right now, it's worse than anyone can imagine. Today, I was at the festival field, and they're not allowed anybody yet, but the relationships

that we have with Special Forces commanders here with the IDF are extensive, and they are taking us to places so that we can tell the world and America, especially, what has happened. And you know, I haven't exactly hunted down this rumor, but I did receive a few tips into our inbox that that is the reason that people who attended church were given as to why some of these pastors knew Charlie was dead before somebody else because of their contacts in the IDF. Again, I need to chase down those leads. But yeah, they have a pretty good intel, certainly. They would imagine Israeli intelligence may have known first somehow.

I wonder why they were interested. Who knows? Anyway, is it fair, at least after listening to that, to suggest that Corby Hall might have been telling the truth about Victor Marx potentially doing some work trying to secure weaponry on behalf of Israel, on behalf of the IDF, allegedly maybe. I think it's a fair assumption. Anyway, now we know Victor is running for governor of Colorado, inspired by, according to him, Charlie's untimely death. Something overtook him. He had to do something. And that something was to run for the governor of Colorado. Okay. And Colorado is interesting for a lot of reasons. On background, for those of you that do not live here,

we Americans recognize it as sadly the birthplace of school shootings. No one could forget Columbine. I was very young and it still feels so raw, so shocking. I remember crowding around the big bulky screen TV, waiting for information to come through the mainstream media. Beyond that, not too far away, obviously in Aurora, Colorado, there was one of the more infamous shootings, mass shootings, Batman-themed shooting.

when the dark night came out, it took place in a theater. And we shouldn't forget here that Erica Kirk's friend was there at the shooting in the movie theater. Erica seems to have bad luck that way when it comes to shootings. Now, we can make an educated guess as to who that friend was, but we still don't know for certain that person's identity or how they were involved. Were they, did they get hurt? I don't know. Now, regarding Colorado, we also know that Charlie was,

was supposed to be in Colorado the next day, right? On September 11th, immediately following UVU, his next event, which was for some reason barely publicized, was to take place at Carus Bible College. September 11th, we broke the story, actually. We also broke a story that a security plan was not put in place for that event, which is remarkable. And Brian Harpole has all but confirmed our reporting

in his court filing against me. Look at what he wrote. regarding Carus Bible. He said, according to Owens' supposed tipster, there was, quote, no security plan in place at Caris Bible College, claiming that it was odd that Harpoll's team planned Kirk's security strategy for Utah Valley University two weeks in advance, but failed to contact the chief of police for Woodland, Colorado, to plan security for Carers Bible College. Owen specifically asked, quote, why didn't Dan Flood and Brian Harpole and Turning Point USA's security have any coordination with the police departments up in Colorado if this is what they normally do? question mark. Then they put in quotations here, I mean in parentheses, Harpole did not coordinate with Caris Bible College nor the Woodland Police Department because he was not advised that Charlie would be visiting the school. It was not uncommon for Charlie to visit universities with only Dan Flood. Really? I think they just keep forgetting that. Like I went on tour with Charlie for three

years. That's uncommon. I don't know if it's happened. I'm sure maybe we're going to find out in court if it's happened, but it certainly would be described as uncommon. Whether it just be one person, in insecurity at a college event. And he had no idea. Didn't even had no, we've been with Charlie for years. You had no idea that that was his next stop. That still strikes me as odd. It doesn't matter if he put it in a filing. Doesn't make it suddenly, oh, I now have clarity on the issue. He says it's fine. I'm going to show you guys, by the way, this blurb in the local media in Colorado seven days after Charlie died on September 17th, clarifying. and confirming that he was, in fact, due to speak there the next day.

Here it is. It says in the corner of the college had planned to host Kirk after Wednesday's first stop of his American comeback tour at the Utah Valley University, where he was shot and killed while answering a question from an audience member. Yeah. Woodland Parkament honors his legacy. Now, I should mention, by the way,

in case you're wondering regarding Carus Bible College, the founder of it is this guy, Andrew Womack, and you're thinking, is he former military? Of course. Don't be silly. Grow up. There's military ties everywhere. Okay?

Now, after Caris Bible, Charlie was due to meet up, as we learned, with Erica at Colorado State University, which is situated at Fort Collins. Erica confirmed that in her sit-down with Jesse Waters, but he never made it, obviously, to either one of those events. Something else about Colorado, that's interesting,

that one of the planes that Turning Point USA uses, and I want to be clear here, more specifically, the plane that Charlie himself used for basically all of 2003. Right after Mikey McCoy becomes the chief of staff, this plane, tail number 9582 MMM, Charlie begins using this plane all through 2025. It was really kind of only towards the end that he switched to the other plane that he used that day. But his plane was initially this one, but he was using, to go to every event all across the country. But on the day of Charlie's assassination, we know Charlie did not take that plane to Provo. But someone did. Someone known to Turning Point USA most certainly did take that plane, N582MM. And they got there to Provo eventually after the shooting.

I'm actually going to tell you its flights that day in general. Again, this used to be Charlie's main plane. N582M, it is still tied to Paradise Jets, which the other plane is tied to as well, the one that he did take that day. You can see that 25 minutes before Charlie was shot, the plane departs Denver, Colorado. That's at 1158 a.m. mountain time. And then it heads to a military base in Pierre, South Dakota. South Dakota is one of my Egyptian plane stops. It lands at 1256 p.m. Mountain Time.

So it departs 25 minutes before Charlie gets shot from Denver, Colorado, and then it lands into Pierre, South Dakota, about 23 minutes after Charlie was shot. Okay. Then whoever it is, that's a board of his plane, who is a person known to Shurnden Point USA, stayed in South Dakota for about 50 minutes before heading onward to Chicago, Illinois, for what looks like a pickup. And then they went straight to Provo, Utah, landing at 6.5.5. 57 p.m. And then that plane stays overnight. I want to again stress this plane is known to

turning point USA. Somebody aboard that plane knows Charlie. After it stayed overnight in Provo on September 10th, it then went back to Pierre, South Dakota. Again, nothing there, really. We're in the Dakotas other than the military base. Anyway, Colorado, as I've just seen, it just routinely comes up in the story. I'm just interested in what goes on in Colorado. And it would definitively be interesting to know who affiliated with Turning Point USA was aboard that plane from Denver that took off 25 minutes before Charlie got shot, headed for a military base. Switching gears here, same topic, really. You may have remembered that on September 10th at almost the exact same time down to the minute that Charlie was shot,

there was another shooting in Colorado at a high school, Evergreen High School. And it sort of disappeared from the national media cycle. Of course, local media stayed on this somewhat, but not to the satisfaction of the parents that went to the school. I know I received a flurry of emails, did not really look into it, parents that were not satisfied, who were requesting information,

they were not getting information, and, you know, I didn't really have time to look into it. But I do think that it's worth discussing so that you kind of know what happened. The official story is that a 16-year-old student who attended Evergreen High School named Desmond Holly showed up to school

with the Smith & Wesson, a 38 special revolver, at 1221, two minutes before Charlie. He shot a 14-year-old student at close range while still inside of the school. Then Desmond leaves the school building.

He crosses the football field and comes across a second student. That student's name is Matthew Silverstone and he shoots him at close range. suits him once in the head, I believe, also in the chest. And he does this at the intersection of South Olive Road and Buffalo Park Road. A roofer, a guy who's literally working on roofs in construction, a man named Delmar Martinez filmed this initial confrontation. And in Martinez's footage, which I'm going to show you the interview with Martinez, Holly, Desmond Holly is

holding Matt Silverstone by the neck, shoots him, then proceeds up the driveway. And then, the video, Delmar's video captures deputies shouting commands like, drop the gun. And one deputy is staying behind to provide aid to Matthew Silverstone while remaining law enforcement officers are following the shooter up the driveway. Now, when the officers and Desmond Holly had both moved out of frame, out of the view of the Rufor's camera, a final shot rings out, not captured by the camera. It was Desmond shooting himself. The sheriff's office has since confirmed that only the deputies were the witnesses to Holly shooting himself after they gave their commands. Okay. So here are just a couple of things, and they have very recently,

I mean, within the last few days, a massive document dump, finally, which people will have to go through and confirm. But I can just tell you some things off the bat that locals and parents at the school found immediately odd about the shooting and the fact that they're just now getting any sorts of answers and more documents, it's a long time to wait. If that was your kids that were attending the school, you could understand why these parents were frustrated and were emailing me asking you to take a look into it. One of the greater mysteries of the story is the first 911 call. And this is, I'm quoting this from an email that I received. One detail, she writes, that has never been publicly clarified is who actually made the first 911 call and from where that call was placed.

The call came in at 1222, a full minute after the first shot was fired, the description gave. given to the dispatcher was unnervingly calm and measured, they said, quote, something bad is going on a half mile south of Evergreen Lake. This is a geographic reference rather than a direct report of gunshots from someone inside the building. The caller's identity, the type of device used, and the precise location the call originated from have never been publicly disclosed. That registers to me as wacky. I'm going to agree with this person that that's just, what do you mean. Like, that's a very strange call. Why are you not disclosing who that came in from? Very easy. Number two, another weird thing. The general response in general. Sorry, the response in general.

This woman writes, quote, during the response to the Evergreen shooting, officers from mutual aid jurisdictions, people just coming in from other jurisdictions, who arrived on scene, went door to door, knocking and verbally identifying themselves as police and SWAT and asking teachers and students to open up. That is the opposite of what the established lockdown protocol requires. The correct procedure, the one that has been the standard since Columbine, is that students and teachers stay behind locked doors no matter what. You do not open for anyone, and law enforcement uses school-provided keys to enter. You do not open the door, period, not for anybody knocking, not even for someone saying that they're a cop. The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office actually

acknowledged this in their October 10th update and said that Jefferson County's deputies followed protocol correctly, and it was the outside or mutual aid officers from neighboring agencies who started going door-to-door asking people to open up. And the sheriff's office specifically credited the teachers and the students for doing the right thing by ignoring those requests and staying locked. The sheriff's public explanation essentially placing the blame on interagency coordination without naming which agencies specifically sent the door-knocking officers or which agents specifically or whether any accountability followed is odd. It's notable that Evergreen

High School is located in the same county where the Columbine High School Massacre occurred. So the Columbine lessons were very well learned in Jefferson County. The entire foundation of modern school lockdown protocol nationwide was structured upon the post-Columbine era of school safety training. The blueprint for standard protocol that started 26 years ago with Columbine was created and built largely around this particular county's experience. Why aren't we revealing who went door to door and knocked and said, I'm a police officer, open up? I don't know.

Another odd detail regarding that roofer who captured the footage of the scuffle, which eventually led to the suicide of the shooter, but he missed the suicide of the shooter, and he also says he didn't see the suicide of the shooter. Like I said, Delmar Martinez. His story is that he was working a local job, roofing, building, and was either coming from or going to his lunch break. But his story about how he captured the footage,

10 minutes of footage, which, like I said, at no point shows Desmond Holly's suicide, just the police officers and the scuffle and rendering aid to Matthew Stone is odd. Take a listen to the story that he tells on the news. In that moment, I didn't know how to react. It's a feeling. Families, students, and the Evergreen community

share as they grapple with emotions and questions in the days since the shooting at Evergreen High School. I got out of the car and started to film. For Delmer Martinez, it's grappling with what he witnessed and caught on camera as the tragedy unfolded. I realized later that this was a bigger issue. Martinez, Del CBS, Colorado, he and another coworker were working a roofing job in Evergreen. They were driving along Buffalo Park Road near Olive Road when a police officer sped past them and got out of their car. It was there where we saw a young person fighting. He came out holding another student by the neck,

and the police was saying something for him to stop. And so the student shot at the other teen and threw him. He threw him to the ground. Martinez started recording while they were stopped on the side of the road. The police didn't know how to react, whether to attend to the teen on the ground or follow the other one. Videos shared by Martinez show what happened after he says the teen suspect shot the other student.

Other officers quickly arrived on scene, and one of them followed the suspect. up a dirt driveway. He went off. He went off walking about 10 meters. Officers appear to tell the suspect to put his weapon down. That's when Martinez says he heard a gunshot. Everything lasted about 10 minutes.

We've blurt out the right side of the video where another officer was performing first aid. We wanted to leave, but there wasn't anywhere we could go. Martinez says they didn't help cell reception at that location and didn't know what was happening to the students. We didn't realize until 530 that we were filming something that was a lot more serious. In hindsight, he wishes he could have done more to help in that moment. I was scared. It didn't cross my mind to help. But gives credit to the police for doing everything they could in that moment to try to get to the scene and de-escalate the situation.

So right off the bat, maybe that all will check out. But right off the bat, when I heard this from, like, wait, a police officer sped past you and pulled over and you just pulled over too? I've heard of rubbernecking, but I genuinely have never heard of a police officer speeds past you, pulls over, and you go, I'm just going to pull over too and just start filming. Okay, interesting. But this is, the next part is actually even more odd because you see he mentions the fact that he's a roofer and that he was working a job in Evergreen. It's a very tight-knit community. Well, locals who were very interested in this began searching and they could not determine what house he and his co-workers were working on or what contract to

were working for. So I don't know if you know this, but it is required by law. You can't just go roofing and building a house. And this is the case also in Evergreen without legally filing for a permit to do work with the city and or the town. Everywhere I've ever lived, that is the circumstance. And certainly they confirmed it is the law here. So they should be able to do a quick permit search in Evergreen

and say, oh, they were working on Joe's house down the street and went on their lunch break. Can't find anything. We researched every house to see what in Evergreen, which house he was working on, can't determine it. And journalists seem uninterested in determining that answer as well. Seems like a lead that should be chased. I certainly, if I was living in Evergreen, we want to know. No, but what house were you actually working on?

Lastly, a point that's odd about this story, and there are many points they're odd, so I'm just kind of going through him quickly with you here. Quickly with you here, the school resource officer, person that's supposed to be there. Obviously, you know, Corby Hall, though that was the interest with Victor Marks. He wanted to put a full day R into the hands of every school resource officer. Well, Evergreen High School did have a full-time school resource officer position, but the deputy that was assigned to that role happened to be a medical leave at the time of the shooting. So a different deputy whose primary assignment was actually another high school that was nine miles away,

Conifer High School, was filling in part time. So he was working as the school officer for both. both Conifer High School and Evergreen. He was the only one that was on duty at the day of a shooting. And initially, the reporting came out and said that the SRO deputy left Evergreen campus around 10.30 a.m. because he was responding to a nearby traffic crash. And so he was off campus when the shooting started at 1221. Now, this reporting turned out to be inaccurate. They had to make adjustments. They had to

correct the sequence. And they said, no, actually, what happened was the sheriff office revised this. The deputy had actually started his morning at Conifer. Then he made the drive to Evergreen. He stayed at Evergreen for about an hour. Then he drove back to Conifer. Then he was dispatched from Conifer High School to a car crash. And while en route to that car crash, that's when the call came in about the Evergreen shooting. And he turned around and started heading toward Evergreen. Now, that's another lead that hasn't been followed up on because nobody can find this alleged crash that he got dispatched to. Location of the crash he was originally dispatched to. It's never publicly released anything confirming that information has not been found by people

who are around the clock working to confirm these details. There's been no coverage about a crash that took place. Maybe you could say when they were overwhelmed with the shooting, perhaps. No crash report number, no location, no other parties involved. It was reported but never independently corroborated. There are a lot of reasons why people are not feeling competent in what happened at another shooting in Colorado. And the fact when it took place so close to the Charlie Kirk shooting is of interest. Again, it could have nothing to do with Charlie Kirk shooting. It could just be an unhappy consequence. But we had received enough emails about it, people, especially when we started bringing up Victor Marx and Colorado in general, I thought,

let me just kind of introduce that to a more national audience who may not have been paying attention to it. Like I said, there has recently been a huge document dump. Let's hope it provides more clarity, and we will eventually see whether or not that's true. We're going to take a brief break here before I tell you a bit about this AI company, Hollywood AI company, and we take a look at Paramount Tacticals, Gary Mountain's latest slip. All right, you guys, some moments change everything, and for a woman facing an unexpected pregnancy, seeing her baby on an ultrasound, and hearing that tiny heartbeat can turn fear into hope. In fact, it doubles a chance that she'll choose life.

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what she is referring to. I touched upon it briefly yesterday, but during the Fort Wachuka madness, right? when I really was just focused on the Brian Harpole, maybe being at this meeting on the ninth, less focused on why Erica may have been at a hotel. She wasn't seen with Brian Harpole if Mitch's memory is to be believed. What kind of exploded the Fort Watjuka story

was this unnecessary coordination that was discovered between Andrew Colvette, who was supposed to have been, you know, moved away from PR because he was failing miserably at it. brought in crisis PR, at least that's what Erica told me. And Erica, coordinating with Andrew Colvette, to get an alibi for Fort Wachuka to this obscure YouTuber, Paramount Tactical, Gary Melton. He's, you know, former Green Beret. He's very thick, and I'm talking like not a lot of thoughts happening.

He thinks he's putting puzzles together, but I just don't think that that's his thing. And so it was very weird they were coordinating with this guy. in general when they were, everything was good between us at that time. They could have just emailed me and said, hey, I saw you tell this guy, Mitch, he thought Erica was here. Here's her alibi. Here's where she was actually on the eighth and the ninth. And so when this moment was discovered and we can get ready to pull in this clip, it was quite shocking to see that they were coordinating that we have Erica and Andrew Colvette coordinating with Paramount Tactwell. And they wanted to keep that on the DL, of course, because Gary's brain is not firing. very quickly, he accidentally read the alibi live on air. And it was one of these moments. Take a listen to Gary on his thought-provoking show. I asked him, hey, do you have proof of this? He says, but it's worth saying Erica wasn't in some fort in Tucson. The internet has gone saying she woke up next to Charlie on the ninth, went to the office with Charlie all day, woke him up from a nap before a fox hit, went to dinner with Charlie.

Literally people are lunatics. And then the next one, I will show you guys that one. Right here we have this one. And then I'll show you an up close picture with the metadata that we have on the screen itself. Proof, she was with their kids at 8.33 a.m. Pacific time, which again, in September, Arizona's on specific time, Pacific time, specific time. Taking them for a walk, apparently I wasn't supposed to share that.

But anyways, point being is, that's 8.33 a.m. It shows the date on that. Sorry, Andrew, I screwed that up, man. I was trying to run a podcast and do everything else. But, again, it's proof of what's going on here. And I'm going to share the final screen. the final picture that shows the metadata for this that she was indeed with the kids

I keep hitting the wrong button you guys can see that says right at the top September 9th 833 a.m. Case closed case closed he's doing his best he's doing his best he's like it was on specific time specific time

Arizona was on specific time It was a very specific time in the Pacific. But so we get to this moment and you're going, wait a second, a lot of things happening here that are weird, but you could see Andrew's very clear. This is her alibi for the ninth. He also says, which was very strange, and I ended up texting both him and Justin Strife after this, that Erica was at the office all day with Charlie. She wasn't on the ninth. She has never made that claim publicly, actually, the exact opposite thing is what she tells Jesse Waters, that Charlie was in the office all day. So she was not with him on the ninth.

The ninth was not ever in question where Erica Kirk was. I wasn't really even really questioning what she may have had some business at Fort Wachuka. Like I said, her parents are in the military. She may have just gone to a hotel for a reason. Who knows? But this moment made us go, hmm, this is weird. And instantly, instantly people like Miami in the chat here began making videos saying those aren't her kids. The son is supposed to be 16 months, the daughter.

These are not Erica Kirk's kids. By the way, because critical thinking does not see. seem to be something that Gary Mountain's able to do. This is no indication, even if these were her kids and she was covering their faces, this would be no indication that Erica Kirk was with them. It's a photo of the kids by themselves. Okay, so this could be taken by a daddy, right? Daddy could have taken them somewhere and they're sending you the photo of, yeah, can you send a photo of the kids?

Do you take that to here we go? This is not proof of anything, but the thing that I want you to focus on is they said kids. Andrew said, here is proof she is with her kids. And they did try to pass off the idea that this was Erica's kids. And I looked at the photo. I'm an expert at toddler hands, toddler everything. I've got extra tall. This was very clearly at the very least, not her son.

But I abstained. I completely abstained from that until I received information from people who would know, who know the kids very well and said, not only is that not her son, it's not our daughter. I said, that's really, is you're saying it's just somebody else's kids full stop? And I'm not, I can't,

I was not willing to allege that. I also just feel a sense of ick when the kids are being used in an alibi. I don't want to spotlight children, have people looking for children. Just all of that was like, I'm just going to abstain from it. I know deep down at the very least,

that isn't her son. And I'm hearing from someone that it isn't her daughter either. But I'm going to abstain from it. until Gary Melton did what Gary does the best. He's the greatest PR firm. He really is. He's the greatest PR firm, not for Turning Point USA,

but for the people. He doesn't mean to be. He's confirmed so many things by accident. He confirmed that Mitch was at Fort Huachuca when he brought on Mitch's son, Mitch's son, because, you know, they were going to crush me with his past. And, oh, he's a terrible father. So don't listen. It doesn't even matter if Brian Harpo was there or Erica was there,

because looking at what a terrible guy Mitch is, and then Mitch's son confirmed that he got a phone call on that day because the police were called and I guess he's kin and they reached out to him and asked him questions about his dad. So Gary also accidentally confirmed that Mitch was at Fort Huachuca, which is another hilarious moment brought to you by Paramount, not so tactical, it turns out. So anyway, Gary Bell had tweeted this a couple of days ago.

Yes, people have been pushing and insisting, these are not our kids, these are not our kids. and someone wrote, is her son this big yet, or am I still stuck in the future with Charlie's apparent five-year-old? I actually never read the tweet that he was responding to. That's very funny. Again, internet being asked not to believe our own eyes. And Paramount, Gary finally responds and says, it's not her son. It's her daughter with another child. Look, mystery solved. Okay, don't gaslight us. You were the people who introduced this, even if it were her actual. children. It would not have been a sufficient answer. It would not have satisfied interest as to whether she was with her kids. Anybody can take a photo of your children and send it to you. Secondly, you presented this as concrete proof case closed that Erica was with her children. Andrew says

here she is with the kids. Now, suddenly the internet has not let go of the fact that they don't think these are Erica's kids and you're now finally copping and saying, okay, well, maybe we went too big on the kid. Too big on the sun. It's not, it's not a her son, we admit. So it's not proof of the kids full stop and it's not proof that Erica is with her kids. Again, why? Why are we doing this? Why are they being so weird? Why are they constantly adjusting, telling lies, gas lighting, being consistent, working behind the scenes to get out something that I was happy to just go ahead and debunk because like I said, I was like, you know, 40, 60. Maybe you saw or maybe didn't, even if you did see her, doesn't mean Erica was doing anything weird like that. She lives in

Arizona. She has a family that's involved militarily. That's not weird. It would not be weird unless you make it weird, unless you start telling lies. That is what makes people not trust the Turning Point USA apparatus. It's always this, a slight pivot. You told us this. Now we're going to pivot and give you a different story and then basically say to you, how dare you recognize the first story that we told you was not accurate in its entirety. Just true to turning point. This is just their formula that is failing upon the public, I might add. Switching gears yesterday, we were telling you at Turning Point USA, in particular, this Marcus Wada, alleged former arms dealer, he's already actually incorporating AI voices into their presentations.

We're going out to donors. They're using a voiceover to narrate presentations. Well, today we can confirm to you that for a reason that is not yet known, after Charlie's death, and maybe even before Charlie's death, but definitively after, Marcus was meeting with and communicating with Hollywood AI deep fake companies. Okay, they specialize in creating deep fakes. Now, maybe if this was a conservative company that specialized in making videos, you might go, okay, you know, back when Daily Wire was saying they were going to explode into Hollywood,

that might make sense. But why Turning Point USA? I'm going to give you the name of the company. It's VFX, L.A. Okay, VFX, Los Angeles. These guys were brought into Turning Point USA. Like I said, we can confirm that with Marcus Wada. I can't confirm that they created any content for him.

But I would like to show you on their website what they say they specialize in. Let's just click around, right? Here we go. It tells us here they do voice cloning. Yet another example of our AI capabilities is the recreation of a specific voice, voice cloning, using a bespoke AI model for that exact voice. There is no accent or colloquialism that we cannot generate. Case in point, this project for Fanatics Collectible, where we had to reproduce the unique timber and intonation of the deceased baseball commentator, Skip Corray,

or Skip Carey, sorry, I'm not about a baseball fan, guys, I don't want to say his last name, that tells us to listen to his original voice, then to listen to this recording from the hired actor that was then read a new script and then finally listen to our voice cloning of Skip Carey's AI voice despite him passing away nearly 20 years ago. Oh, that's interesting

because I have donors telling me that they are convinced that it is AI. They were there. Charlie never said this super formal statement. I appoint Erica Kirk if anything were to happen to me. Many people emailed us, by the way, that work in AI and have worked in AI in years. They were like, Candice,

I am telling you 100, That is AI. I don't claim to be an expert. I just claim to follow interesting leads like this. This is not all they do, by the way. They also can make videos. Take a video of somebody. Maybe somebody, as an example, giving a presentation in Aspen.

So as an example. And if they needed to add a sentence or due, these would be the guys to do it. Let's actually click around and take a look at their deep fakes here, where if you want to pull back up that website, Sky, where they explain how you're going to see this original UK woman say something in a commercial, and then they are going to, you guys having some internet issues? No worries.

Let me know when it's back up. Okay, cool. They pulled the video already. And then they're going to take this original UK commercial, and then they're going to make her say it in German, make the man that's also in the commercial, say it in German. They're going to make them say it in French and how they did this for their clients, and their clients were like, still looks a little uncanny. something's off, and then they were able to further get the mouth to behave correctly and say stuff that they actually never said, or at least didn't say in that language. Let's take a look

at that video. We will now show you the array of AI tools and patented VFX methods we use to create a life-like lip sync of an aerial commercial from the original British English into French and then German. So you've put on a freshly washed shirt only to find smells have come back. Oh. That's a boomerang smell. It's when smelly particles haven't been washed out properly and are reactivated by heat. Oh, yep.

Boomerang smell. We started by mapping out the likeness of the original UK actors, which would later be used to output their photo-realistic deep-fake features. We then cast two French actors with likeness matching their UK counterparts and recorded a plethora of what we call training footage to train our AI models for each. Then the voice cloning requires ample amounts of editing, sorting and cleaning up before we can train our AI voice models to match the original actor's voices. With all that prep work in computing from our AI models, our lip-sings output are flawless right as they come out and ready for broadcast. Finally, we were asked to tweak the final smile of the actress as the client was not fully satisfied with the original performance.

So we used our patented shape control method to create a multitude of incremental changes in the intensity of the smile, adjusting the opening of the eyes, the pull of the zygomatics, and the moisture of the lips until the client settle on their preferred performance. Whether in French, German, or any of the language, this is how we create cinema-grade lips. I'll ask the question. I'll be the bad guy. What's turning point doing, meeting with this company at all? I, gosh, I don't know if it was too long ago, I'm getting old, but Turning Point USA used to be an organization

that hit the ground at college campuses to spread conservative principles, like free markets, capitalism. What use do they have with Hollywood voice cloning in particular? Just seems a little strange to me, and wouldn't you have less of a use for that? after Charlie died, almost less of a use. Maybe you were like, we can put Charlie in a bunch of different places and wouldn't you have less of a use for that after Charlie died?

Like, wouldn't you maybe just like kick that can down the road? You were going to have a meeting like that? No? Well, I'd like to know. Did they work with them? Did they do anything with this company? Was it just a meeting? I mean, Andrew Klova did say they met with people that said they could do all these deep fakes of Charlie

and they declined. Did they decline them all? Did they give them an example of one they could do? And Erica says she watched the video of Charlie. saying that he chose her and the donor said that didn't happen. Is it plausible that they showed her a deep fake? Did she know it was deep fake? Why would the donors, again, what is the upside of wealthy donors

who went to Aspen to support Charlie saying that this definitively did not happen and that that moment is AI? Also, why wouldn't Turning Point use that moment on video? to announce Erica Kirk. You know, I just, none of that makes any sense to me. And yeah, I will leave it at that. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, life changes fast.

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All right, you guys, top comments from yesterday's episode. Somebody wrote, why would Charlie say appoint my wife instead of I would appoint my wife if something happened to me? Present tense instead of future tense. Good question. Team G family four writes, I appoint my wife reads like a Tyler Robinson text. It certainly does. Overly formal. And Charlie was not this overly formal person. That's kind of what made him so engaging on stage that he was able to be conversational. It does strike as remarkably formal as if he was doing it, you know, like it was a coronation. I appoint my wife. Also, a comment from Dick Shirley yesterday. He was bothered, really bothered, that I wasn't born yesterday. I'm sorry. He wrote, here you go, Camden. Here is a full favela video that you cannot comprehend as real, LOL, more dangerous than any of your family reunions.

I would hope. Didn't know you were built so favela-like and dangerous, but respect. Okay, Nick, I don't know what to tell you. It isn't journalism to people. It's just how they grow up. And thank you for all the Brazilians in the comments yesterday. You were hilarious. You guys just scroll to yesterday's comments of being like, this is the biggest joke I've ever heard. Like I said, you just live enough.

and you just, it's so beyond ridiculous. It's not even worth debating. I know there's a sucker born every minute, but you just have to be deep in the throes of suburbia to think that somebody can infiltrate a gang in the favela. 48 hours, after 48 hours. Like just with a camera and a mic, you will be robbed so quickly. Viewers do not try that at home.

Okay, today's comments. Just saw a big one come in on YouTube. Hello, Candace. Thank you so much for everything that you have done for the world and blowing the lid off of all this ridiculousness. Quick question, whatever happened to all the Mitt Romney stuff we took a break from. Much love from Texas. I'm still looking into it. There, I do think that is a piece of this. Utah, I forgot. Mitt Romney kind of runs things. And, you know, this investigation is ongoing in so many different ways. You know, we return to certain things when they fit into another piece. But the Mitt Romney thing is incredibly compelling, especially his relationship, long relationship with Bibi Net and Yahoo. So thank you for reminding me to return. turn to that at some point. Comments from today's episode, Monica W. writes, I rushed to see Oprah at four daily, and my teenage self was often disappointed because I didn't care about the topics. Now I rush to find your show time every day, and I'm never disappointed. Either I'm officially adulting or you

spill the best truth tea. Thank you so much, Monica. That's very, very sweet to even consider myself in that realm. I guess Oprah is so different. Their daytime talk television, and she used to really go there, by the way, with her old shows, and she was covering some very interesting and compelling stuff. So I appreciate that compliment. R.K.O. is Life, Rights. Hello, Candice. Thank you so much for everything that you have done for the world. Oh, that's when I just read. Thank you guys. I'm pulling that from YouTube. I'll come in.

Z.A. Mitt writes, Charlie Kirk did not die in vain. No, he did not. I totally agree with you. Brooke writes, your independence is your superpower. It's rare to see someone fight for the truth regarding Charlie with such loyalty. Calling out these cult leaders is exactly what we need. right now, Christ is King. And there are so many of them. And unfortunately, many of them occupy the space of churches and they, mega-churches. And they are telling you that they're doing this for God. And it's, I think people are recognizing it's not. They are actually hacking into faith and trying to move people toward a political stance and really a devastating political stance. This user-writes donor advised funds, Waterstone lawsuit, come with instructions for the charity on what

to allocate the funds to with keeping donor name secret. So I think it's what Charlie was trying to audit, known for foreign monies being moved in donor advised funds. I believe, I just agree slightly, I believe he was taking a close to get turning point action. Based on everything that I have looked at, based on the people that I've spoken to, within the organization,

the rumor is that turning point action was missing $10 million. And turning point action actually built a backdoor. It has connections to Erica's mother. That is just a fact. I'm blanking on the name of the company that she is on the board of with Tyler Boyer. They act superfeed actually powers the Turning Point USA website. So the app, pardon me. So if you look into the app and you start to read the stuff you click past when you're downloading an app, it tells you super feed.

I think that they probably built a lot of mechanisms. And again, I'm speculating here, but with a lot of pieces of people who were at Turning Point USA, who are no longer at Turning Point USA, saying that that was where the money was missing from. And if it was Turning Point Action, then there would be a direct tie to Lori Franz Faye would have created a serious kerfuffle in his relationship with his wife if he found out something about Lori Fransfei, who, yeah, I have a lot of question marks about her in general, but I've expressed that throughout our Erica Kirk series, Bride of Charlie. Ali writes, or Ali, pardon him, writes, Erica went on Glenn back and said, Charlie wasn't texting people that he was going to be killed the day before. When she privately admitted to you that this was false, why didn't she correct the record publicly? Isn't that weird? Yes, you are correct. That is weird.

She said it was such an attitude, right? She's like, I have his phone. He never said that. And then she got clocked on it because I then the next day said, that's weird because Andrew was one of the people he texted and he told me. And then she was like, well, then it's because, you know, stuff was set to delete Dan Flood

Okay, this is your husband He didn't tell you That he thought he was gonna die a night before But he had any sort of anxiety about that He's up a night before You said he was just excited It's a weird thing To experience those two emotions at once

You're so excited about something that you've done That's actually become quite mundane I never remember Charlie All of our tech messages the night before You know, hotel roads With paper thin walls Where I could like hear the shower

Never did I ever hear Charlie Just be so excited about doing a college campus event because we just did so many of them that he couldn't sleep. This night was different. He was so excited, he couldn't sleep, but also thought he was going to be killed.

It's a lot of emotion going through one guy. I believe one of those. I believe that Charlie was fearful the night before and not excited about doing a college campus event at a college that he had already done a college campus event at. This was not new. It was not unique.

I must not to say anything to UVU crowd, but this is this is his job. and he was years and years and years and years into that job. So I don't believe that's the reason he was up. I don't. When I put the blues clues together, that doesn't feel right. And then she didn't mention that to her at all. That doesn't register as right to me either.

And then it turns out that even when she tried to fix the lie, which they probably thought through in telegram, that this is where this took place on telegram, that was inaccurate. And he actually texted Dan and I message. So did somebody delete the messages before it was given to Erica? I know she's not concerned, obviously.

None of this bothers her, none of the holes bother her. She's just, you know, the loving, doting widow who believes every single piece that the Fed has spun and is not at all, she doesn't even have one question

about this investigation. She just forgives them. And she'd like to close this chapter and move on. And that's that. T.J. Clark Reich's ex-Arora PD officer here, September 10th was especially heavy for us due to the local shooting with Charlie Kirk right afterward. I took my kids out of school on 9-11 because of it. Happy to help with local records requests if you ever need it.

Thank you very much. I will save your username. That's very helpful. I don't know how deep I will get into that September 10th story, but I do believe it deserved a more national spotlight. and I can imagine what you guys went through. That's a lot. Oh, I'm sorry, you said Aurora PD. I'm thinking of the September 10th one.

Aurora PD was Batman shooting. And yeah, that's super interesting. Please do shoot us an email to more tips at canisotoram.com so I can have your information because I do have some questions about that. Totally bizarre. The story of the one woman who was shot like five times and taken out by police officers into a police car and Jessica Garza, I believe her name was.

Something's very strange about that. Like I said, my conspiracy is that these are military targets, people that are being taken out, the fact that she had just survived another shooting, missed it in a food court up in Canada. There's a lot weird about that story. Happy Coma writes, it was almost certainly the Clear Creek Sheriff Office working in collaboration. We don't have our own police department in Evergreen. That's interesting. State Patrol and Clear Creek responded. That's very interesting.

and I would imagine that they would know the protocol, having been in the area of Columbine. Thank you for sharing that. Julia writes, just saw a Words of Wisdom video that Erica Kirk recorded of Charlie Kirk. He said, you want to find out a lot about someone.

Give them a bunch of power. It just feels like a whole 2025-26 vibe between TPA, USA, Trump, and Israel. Yeah, you know, we've... Somebody who will not be named in the control room made the joke. And it really tickled me because if you watched

the Lord of the Rings and like all of the people fighting for power for Charlie is like Charlie was the only one who could actually hold the ring and not want unlimited power. And then they were like,

Erica comes out of nowhere and just tastes the power and becomes that queen who's like, I can be the queen. I think we have that clip. We have the show the clip. This is the moment I'm talking about

if you're not a Lord of the Rings fan dismiss this. But this is, I'm like, yeah, yep, the ring. tempting. I can be your CEO. So let's watch this clip. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this.

In place of a dark lord, you would have a queen. Not dark, but beautiful and terrible as a gourd. Trachers the sea. Stronger than a devastation of this. Yeah. Yeah. I think people wanted some power. I don't know.

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