Candace - SHOCKING FOOTAGE! UVU Rooftop. Erika Gives Charlie’s Final Moments With His Kids To Internet Trolls. | Ep 392

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

Erika Kirk shares footage of Charlie and his kids with Andrew Wilson for his show and we release crucial, never-before-seen footage from September 10th. Battalion Metals​ ​​ Explore their collection of fair-priced gold and silver! Make sure to enter code CANDACE at checkout to let them know I sent you! https://BattalionMetals.com/candace Tax Network USA​ ​ Do not wait for another IRS letter or a frozen bank account. Call 866-686-1651 or visit http://tnusa.com/candace Nimi Skincare​ ​​ Get 10% off your order with promo code CANDACE10 at http://www.NimiSkincare.com American Financing​​ NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens or call 800-795-1210. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99 Candace Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ClipsCandaceOwens Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and our plan is to pretend that you can't even utter a sentence that doesn't begin with the Lord, I would probably advise heavily against you simultaneously associating yourself with Andrew Wilson, this textual relationship with Andrew Wilson that's developing, because people are going to have questions when you begin sending him videos of your children. And yes, ladies and gentlemen, she has now taken the rather dramatic step to provide Andrew Wilson of all people, Smokey Boy, with what might be the last footage ever captured of Charlie Kirk alive with his children. I can't make this stuff up.

She's given it over to Andrew Wilson to release to the public as what is registering to everyone as just an internet troll. I'm going to tell you all about that. But first, we have to remain focused with new never-before-seen footage from September 10th. And it's a big deal, if I do say so myself, this footage, I believe, is crucial. And because I recognize the always unique timing of TPSA deploying these chaos agents, that's what they are. They try to just kind of suck your energy. Like the Wilson's, I know that it means that we cannot take the bait of distraction.

And so back to UVU on September 10th, we go. Welcome back to Candace. Foremost, I have to issue a quick correction. You know we strive to be correct. I was live searching yesterday and I misspoke. And I wrongly asserted when we were talking about check. Kelsey and Casey Bowell, the Entrepreneurship Institute that I said was in the Woodbury Building at UVU. We were wrong.

I meant to say that it's located in the Keller building at UVU, which is the building that is directly next to the admissions law. Just to jog your memory, I was speaking about the N88KG plane, which ruffled a lot of feathers early on in the investigation, owned by Derek and Chalain Maxfield. I'm not asserting that Casey and his wife had anything to do with anything. I was just pointing out that they were the other owners on that jet, and they didn't really catch any flack. And yes, the building that I should have said was the Keller building, which is directly next of a lot, and yet I said Woodbury. So quick little correction there.

Now to address the many Dodge Challenger emails that we received yesterday, there was something very interesting, which we were able to confirm with our rooftop. footage. The world never understood why the feds kept supplying grainy footage from the parking lot. Rainy footage from campus with the aspect ratio adjusted when there was a clearer footage available. Never made sense, especially in the midst of a manhunt. Why not just release everything if you're actually trying to catch the guy? Well, in retrospect, it seems to be the case that they did not wants people to be able to, I don't know, clearly identify details about the suspect. Or perhaps more crucially, the car that he was driving, because with grainy footage,

we could only realistically make guesses, right? And one of the things that we and many others pointed out early on was that it appeared that the exhaust pipes, which were featured on Maroon Boys' Dodge Challenger, were potentially not a match with Tyler Robinson's confirmed Dodge Challenger. So the clearer footage seems to confirm that fact. What we can say is it definitively has cleared up beyond a reasonable doubt which sorts of exhaust pipes are featured on the Challenger that goes into the garage. We can now assert with full confidence that the Dodge Challenger, which enters the parking garage, has quad exhaust tips. I got that wrong. I didn't really know the difference between quad meeting,

four exhaust tips in total. Forgive me for being a stereotype of a woman. Two on each side. So I'm going to show you that in various photos. Here is him pulling into the garage, our maroon boy. You can just look. We are looking at two on that side. Two on the other side. These are what is known as quad exhaust tips. Four in total. Pretty simple there. Now many have asserted that this is a variation from Tyler's confirmed vehicle on the basis of the circulating videos of his car getting towed into evidence. I'm not going to say this with 100% certainty because I'm terrible at cars and I don't always trust my gut instinct, but I am going to show you the video of his car getting towed and say that it certainly appears that these are dual exhaust. So there's a total of one, two exhaust pipes,

one on each side. Take a look here. This is his car getting towed. You can see this. people have sent, we got so many emails. Like this is, and it does look like a single exhaust on each side, as you guys can see. Yes. That is what that looks like. And again, I can show you a still photo of that as well. On the car stuff, I always, I always like to hedge just in case. It's not my expertise, but I do think that, yes, I see what many others have pointed out.

is a very big deal, potentially a very big deal. I also then made some phone calls, and I am told that Tyler Robinson, yes, that they are dual exhaust two total. And I do want to say this because I was so driven crazy by an email that I couldn't find early on in the investigation.

Someone sent me an email. They said that they had been walking down the street of Tyler Robinson's parents, and this was days after Tyler Robinson had quote-unquote turning himself in, and they saw his car and they sent me multiple photos of Tyler Robinson's car sitting in the driveway, and I have misplaced those photos. So if you have other photos of Tyler Robinson's car, clear photos,

maybe you were walking through the neighborhood in those early days, please resend them to us. More tips at candace owens.com. I would love to just get like super clear, exclusive photos of Tyler's car. More tips at candace owens.com. Okay, moving on. As I said, we have to return to the scene of the crime UVU campus September 10th. I want you guys to know that a lot of weird stuff happened in the five minutes leading up to Charlie's explosive

going off. Namely, a lot of people got busy. I think that's the best way to say it. So allow me to sort of create a visual storyboard for you, so to speak. Okay? It is 12.16 p.m. So we are T-minus seven minutes until the Big Bang. At this time,

upon a walkway, which is going to lead up to the lozzi center rooftop, a stone cold killer has emerged and he has reached a concrete wall. Now for clarity, this is the specific wall that I am referring to right here to give you a visual. He is going to happen upon that concrete barrier, a concrete barrier which separates the walkway from the lozies center rooftop. And what he will do next, well, he's just going to stand there for over a minute and contemplate. I want to show you guys that footage. We're going to watch it for the full minute. I think the more that at-home investigators have, the better.

So again, putting in your mind, this is approximately 12, 16 p.m. Take a look and please mind the silence because there's not really much to look at other than him contemplating for a minute. Here we go. So we are going to show him, which, by the way, another thing that I would like to add, if I may, is that this person appears to me to be very tall. Very tall person is what I would say. Is it Wallaweegee tall? I'm observing with my eyes here, by the way. So this is my show, my podcast.

I'm going to say what I believe that I see, and this person appears to me to be very tall. This is our guy, just so you guys know. This is the guy that they are going to allege killed Charlie Kirk. So take it in. Thoughts. Maybe he's thinking about his wordal score. I don't know.

I don't know what he's thinking about. But here it is. I think this person also looked very thin, tall backpack. We are now coming up to 12, 17 p.m. And we know what happens next. He's done contemplating about whatever it is he's contemplating about because it's time to move.

Okay? He's going to, there we go, jump over that ledge and he's going to crouch. And he's going to remain crouched until it's time to sprint across the rooftop. And while he is crouched, we are to imagine, not to see, imagine what he's doing. Some people like Blake Neff like to imagine that he's assembling a rifle. Somehow he doesn't have to worry about having to zero the scope beyond that. He's just going to assemble a rifle that's been in his pants. I like to imagine, since we're all free to imagine, that he's simply texting to check in with other,

who are involved in this operation. That's what I like to imagine. Nobody knows. What we don't have to imagine is what Blake Neff is doing at this exact time. Blake Neff is on his phone. Let's check in. He's on his phone behind the tent.

Maybe he's texting. Maybe he's authoring an email. Maybe he's marking time. Like he said that he was doing back in Salt Lake City when he got lost and doesn't remember much else. Who knows? What we also do not have to imagine is what Danny Phillip was doing. Danny Phillip, not forget, one of Charlie's assistants, new hire, who drove Blake Neff to the event in an SUV.

Gratefully, we also don't have to imagine what his other assistant is doing, Nate Walker. Because at nearly the exact same time, okay, I'm talking 12-17, nearly the exact same time that the alleged killer jumps onto lozy rooftop and ducks. And I'm talking within five seconds when I say exact same time. Danny Phillip and Nate Walker are going to make their way to Danny's SUV. This is the SUV, by the way, that has caused a serious bout of amnesia for Blake Neff. I don't know what's going on in that SUV, why he can't remember things. He's very hesitant to speak about that.

He didn't even remember that he showed up at the event with Danny. remember? And many of us were also wondering why Blake Neff was being driven like he had called an Uber driver. Remember, he was in the back seat when they showed up and Danny was in the front seat. The passenger seat, the front passenger seat was vacant. It's a very strange way to drive with your colleagues. But I digress. The point is that 1217, Nate Walker and Danny Phillip head to the SUV to offload their back. backpacks, okay? This is very important, and I want you to watch this together. And I will also note that we have slowed this footage down. Is that correct, guys? Because I want you guys to just be able to see this and make up your own minds about what you're seeing. Here you go. We have Danny here. He takes off his backpack and puts it in the passenger seat. Nate is fishing something out of his, I guess it would be more appropriate to call that a briefcase rather than a backpack. And they're communicating about whatever that is.

Annie in front of him, Nate looks behind, and then Nate takes off his little side bag and puts it in the car. They close the door and you can see the lights. They lock, they lock the door. Okay. So Charlie's car is not locked.

That car is locked. Now I can make no suggestion to why they just, decided to offload their luggage, their, so to speak, backpack and this bag. But I can tell you that it deeply bothers me. And I can tell you what it is exactly that deeply bothers me about this, because I have since learned that as soon as they walk away, a remarkable thing happens. And I'll say allegedly here for safety, but there's a surveillance blackout for two whole minutes. So to approximate that for you, from 1218 to 1220, the surrogate, the

surveillance system of this area just goes kaput. To be clear, I'm not alleging that these two did anything wrong, but I don't like the timing of that surveillance blackout because, well, I'll tell you why. Because when the surveillance system returned and comes back online at about 1221, Danny has his backpack again. Take a look. This is Danny with his backpack. There you're in the corner.

He's got his backpack on, and we are now T-minus two minutes from the Big Bang. Now I have sat and I have pondered this information in my lonesome for months and I cannot fathom by myself. You guys can help me. I can't think through any logical reason as to why any person would put their backpack in a car, lock said car, walk away from the car, only to then unlock that car and put their backpack on again, all within a span of about four minutes. My rational mind can't allow for that. I'm trying to complete this in a way that makes sense. All I can do is infer. And when I do that, I find myself asking questions.

I'm wondering if someone maybe went into the car, went inside of that backpack and took something out of that backpack or out of Nate's bag, something that was in the passenger seat. I don't know. I'll admit that's that's totally an inference. It's my brain trying to meaningfully fill in a literal surveillance blank. What we do know for certain is that it's now, as I said, T minus three minutes until actually T minus two minutes until Charlie is going to get hit. 1223, right?

We know for a fact that Nate Walker after dropping off this bag in the car is going to head up to the top. toward the Hall of Flags and toward the Sarensen Center with Charlie's driver, Chris, in tow. We still have not meaningfully identified who Chris is, why he's going up there, why the door is seemingly unlocked in Charlie's car if it's supposed to be a security vehicle. But we know Nate Walker goes up there and he doesn't have his bag with him. He's not going to retrieve his bag again, it seems. He neither has it up by the Hall of Flags, nor does he have it.

If we fast forward in the story, was it around 1.20 p.m. when they arrive at the hospital. Danny's got his backpack, but Nate does not have his bag. Those are the facts. Anyway, I think we should because I sense, like I said, when they start deploying chaos agents,

that it's meant to distract us. And so we should share. We should share more to the public. And what I would like to share with you guys all now is more footage of what happened behind the tent when the surveillance system came back on. There's a lot to unpack here, but I'm going to sort of let it play out. And I am going to walk you guys through it. Okay, this is 1221 behind the tent. There is not going to be any gory. Don't have to worry about that. Take a look. Okay. So we have a Turning Point USA photographer speaking. with Angel Castro, and we obviously know that that's Caleb who works for the TPSA Club. Angel is going to walk over and hand his wife what we are told by Brian Harpool are mints. And then she takes those mints and she hands them over to Brian Harpull. Angel takes hats off of the car, and then what happens shortly thereafter is chaos.

Obviously, we know that chaos takes place, but did want to also introduce that to you as final moments leading up to the Big Bang going off. It doesn't mean anything. It's just sharing footage, the more the merrier, the more that we have, the more that we can discuss, and the more that we can think through. I'm overthinking it. Maybe there's nothing weird about the backpack and dropping off bags, and we know Chris goes in the bag, and he's got stuff, and, you know, they go up. I don't know. It could be, like I said, very clear answers as to what is going on.

I do think the public deserves them at the stage. Those answers do not need to be given to me. I've never suggested they need to be provided to me. I've always suggested that since they're a public organization who regularly colludes with influencers, they just provide the information to a respectable journalist or journalists that they respect, rather is a better way of saying it. There are many. They've shown that they go to the Daily Mail.

This would be a good time to do that. I think as this goes on, we are coming up with a lot more questions than we are answers. all we're being met with are very, very, very angry turning point USA employees and turning point USA affiliates. And I don't understand the anger. You know, if you have nothing to hide, you've nothing to hide. We're going to be right back after a brief break. And I'm going to tell you what Erica Kirk has done, which I'm going to just tell you right here. I am fully disgusted by it. We'll be right back. All right, guys, you should know that it is not just in your head. Your money is just not worth what it used to be. The dollar has lost about one third

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Okay, so I'm done with the widow grift. It's expired. It's been a year now. It's over. I think Erica, in my opinion, is, I think she's insane. I think there's something very wrong with her. She kind of scares me. There's a real darkness there. And if what I'm about to show you and demonstrate to you does not prove that to you that there's just something socially and emotionally disturbed, then I don't think anything will. I really don't. And don't make excuses. Don't, don't everybody. grieves differently me today. Okay, so I'm going to tee this up for you. Let me remind you of the bizarre overreaction to the Fort Wachuka story from last December. Mitch Snow, a man whose story, I still, despite being in the lawsuit, I deem it to be credible. I took every measure that I should have taken as a journalist to confirm the story to confirm what he said. I was very clear that I can confirm where he was. I can confirm that this. incident took place. I can confirm he was at Fort Watchuga. I confirm which hotel he was at. But what I cannot confirm is his memory. He thinks he saw, you know, someone that to him,

he felt certain was Erica Kirk. He thinks he saw Brian Harpole. That, I'm limited. I obviously can't confirm that. But I did try to. I reached out to Brian Harpole before I had Mitch Harbour, before I had Mitch on my show and asked him for a clean answer. I messaged this man like five times that he never answered. He never answered. He never answered. and simply said, I would have taken Brian Harpull's word over Mitches at that time, but they got crazy. But this is when Erica suddenly started doing the PR rounds. She asked, stop, just stop as soon as we mentioned Fort Huachuca. Things just got crazy at the end of last year.

And, you know, we haven't really picked up that story since because we're going to find out stuff. We've obviously been collecting some other information, but I have a pending lawsuit, so I'm going to save that information for there. But fast forward to today, we're now, what, nine months in a lawsuit away from having covered that story. And I would also like to add the fact that I'm very comfortable that I conducted myself way above board and trying to seek answers and get a confirmation from Brian Harple. And I'm looking forward to getting a real alibi through the court system. It's just we're going to find out. That's it.

We are all going to find out about Fort Huachuca. Like, it's now inevitable. There's a lawsuit. And suddenly, Erica introduces us to Andrew Wilson over the summer. The public life, we are now being introduced to Andrew Wilson, an obviously dishonest and disingenuous person who never cared about this case, who called Erica too retarded to kill her husband, regularly lambasted Turning Point USA for feminism and promoting these archetypes,

until she welcomed him into TPSA headquarters, and then everything changed. and he doesn't know what's going on, but he's just going to get in front of Turning Point USA and troll the public, I guess. It's difficult to underscore how patently ghetto and trashy he and his wife are, okay? His wife had five children out of wedlock

with three different men. This is just, we can't pretend this is conservative. We can't pretend this is like anywhere near conservatism, they are pious, religious, nothing of the sort. I will not have it. This is not Christianity. But I do want you to truly appreciate who these individuals are. You saw a lot of Andrew's character as he lied to my face repeatedly, lie about what happened 10 seconds ago. He does not care. He will lie. Like he's proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. But I do want you guys, since you didn't know who they were, I didn't know who they were. And Erica just gave them to us, right? I do want you to see them. Like we just put together this little reel of them. I find them to be truly. just, I'm shocked that they're going further into relationship with these two individuals. And I have to apologize in advance here because the language is obviously debased, but I have to paint a fuller picture. So I will say if you are watching this podcast and know a lot of people who are underage do watch

this podcast or parents are watching this with their minor children, I would offer that now would be a good time for you to turn the volume down or off completely. Okay, here we go. This is just Rachel and Andrew Wilson. Here you go. I don't think that there's evidence to support that Epstein was involved in international sex blackmail operations. There's just to be a lot of evidence that he was at least tied to intelligence agencies, which doesn't surprise me because he was a banker for Rothschild and he was an investment banker for other large banking operations. So that wouldn't surprise me at all if he had intelligence links. Most of these guys seem to. But I haven't seen any good compelling evidence that this guy was.

flying children around the world for other people to have sex with and then blackmail them. And that's where the mythology part comes in. Well, this is going to go viral. And a lot of people are going to take me seriously. And all they're going to remember is that I told you that you couldn't put down the Dunkin' Donuts long enough to make an argument. Now, can you make one or not? Oh, you know, this is schoolboy. By the way, a real man doesn't speak down to a woman the way you do.

I don't care what you think a real man is. I don't care what you think a real man is. You're a very feminine man. Nobody cares what you think real men are. Can you tell me all of the downsides of Donald Trump killing pedophiles in the Middle East? First of all, do you know every single person?

Were those schoolgirls pedophiles? It's institutionalized in the Iranian constitution. We're the 200 schoolgirls pedophiles. We want to make sure that they're alive so they can get raped. You're a f***ke. Don't talk about my wife, you stupid bitch. Shut your f*** mouth.

Shut your stupid bitch mouth. Your wife with the three baby dyes? What did I just say, dyke? wife with the street. Sorry, I'm sorry, Dyke. Is she morally inconsequential in comparison to your shicking? Keep shaking, bitch.

Keep crying, bitch. Because you only thought you could come around this table and I'll say everything with the power and vigor in my voice because I have strength and I'm not going to. Oh, you got strength? Yeah, I've got. Oh, you're giving up. Yeah. Mental strength.

Mental strength. Hey, you were brave. Shut up, woman. Quiet. What you did was you were a, savage when I was unwilling as a man to pick your up and throw you right out the window, which I can do in five seconds. This is TPUSA 2.0.

There's no defending this. There's no pretending it's not happening. They're hosting this guy. They're asking him to come in to teach people how to debate. They want access to middle schoolers, mandated access to middle schoolers and your children. This is what they're partnering with. You cannot ignore those facts. Charlie would have never, ever, ever welcomed Andrew Wilson into the Turning Point USA, 1.0fold.

Okay, Erica Kirk, it's no problem. Again, at the same time, she's maintaining this. I holier than thou. Oh, I just can't believe what Candace is doing is just so horrible to be investigating my husband's murder and the Lord, the Lord will take care of things. And I keep telling you guys, she's nasty behind the scenes. Erica's much more like this behind the scenes, right? She just manipulates people by crying, but she's the one that's deploying these people.

Now, fast forward to some time in the wee hours of the morning last night because that's when Andrew is up. That's when he does his streams. That's when he raises money on his streams because he can't wake up early, as he told me in PBD. Like, he's a night owl. And he claims that he's in possession of a video that is going to debunk the Fort Huachuca story. We don't actually need that. We're in court.

We're good. We're going to handle that. I'm on top of it. Of course, the video he presents absolutely does no such thing, but that's beyond the relevant point here. What he presents is a private video of Charlie Kirk with his children on September 8th, a video that the world has never seen. Okay, he says, Charlie is watching the Cub game with his children on the couch. So I want to clarify that. This footage on September 8th, if this is actual footage from September 8th of Charlie on the couch, would be potentially the last footage ever captured of Charlie with his children on earth.

I just want you to process that, how precious that footage would be. If you loved your husband and you loved your children and you wouldn't even be able to look at this footage without crying. You wouldn't even be able to look at this footage without bawling, realizing it is the last, potentially the last, maybe she caught some on September 9th, particularly the last footage that you've ever captured of your husband with his children, you certainly would be giving it to anyone. Least of all,

Andrew Wilson to troll the internet. That's it. He does. He presents this footage, and I'm going to show you it. It's pretty cushion, huh? All you say true to you. Say, go bears.

Go bears. And sorry, I said Cubs, I should have said bears. And to be clear, this is nothing shocking about this footage. Erica is not breached in this footage. as I've already, we've covered extensively. We knew that Charlie was home. Frank Terek was the one that told us initially that Charlie was home on the 8th watching

the Bears game. And then Charlie let us know as well because on his show the next day, he recounted every minute of the Bears game. So if this is footage from that particular Bears game, this is not shocking. So no one understands why she would give this footage out. No one has. Erica could have just come out and given a clean statement herself. If she wanted to present this as some sort of.

of evidence, which it wouldn't be, she could do it herself. She could literally go on to Charlie Kirk's platform, which used to be a respectable platform. It isn't anymore, obviously. And she could say, here's footage that I want to show you of my husband, my late husband who I love so much. I can't even look at this footage. It brings tears to my eyes. But I wanted to show it to you because I wrongly think it debunks Fort Huachuca, whatever, or maybe just presenting the footage in general, the public because it's the last captured footage of your husband at home, as Andrew Wilson is claiming not her, by the way. We never get these official statements from Andrew Colvette, who is the official spokesperson for Turning Point USA. They basically try to send it in a direction that's not exactly legally clear. He can lie. Andrew Wilson can lie about everything. He has no official ties turning point USA. He can present things to the public. He's just a chaos agent. And they can plausibly deny it in a courtroom. They can say, oh, well, we are, he does not. He does not. He's just a chaos agent. He can present things to the public. He's just a chaos agent. And they can say, oh, well, we are, he does not. He does not. He does not. He does not. He He's not an official spokesperson for Turning Point USA. This is not what Erica told him when she sent him the footage.

He's lying and he's happy to be that person for them. But I just want to talk about the lack of dignity and respect given to Charlie's memory. Beyond this point, no one will ever convince me that Erica loved her husband. There's no way I could not go through footage as his friend. I could not go through or watch footage of me and Charlie. It hurt me. It hurt me. it brought tears to my eyes.

It was not something that I could do. The idea of losing your husband in such a public way, okay? Finding having in your possession footage, which she never mentioned to me when I politely asked her, when things were good about whereabouts were on September 8th, she never said, oh, I have footage of me. She never mentioned a bear's game. She never said that she recorded Charlie with the children.

This is all a brand new narrative. narrative, okay, which is different from what she told me. When they were publicly saying, Candace was his friend, we're going to go sit down with her, we're going to have his pub. Nobody mentioned Erica recording bearish footage of Charlie with the kids. I will say that. In fact, we were told he was with the nanny. Like the nanny, nannies babysitters capture footage of your kids the whole time.

Maybe she's sending it to Erica, who knows. Why wouldn't Erica mention that to me? And if she really wanted the footage out, why not give to somebody more respectable? You have zero respect for Charlie, or your children, by the way, or his legacy, to give that footage, that what should be precious footage, okay, precious footage to an internet troll. A chain smoking internet troll and his trash wife for the purposes of trolling the internet, only to confuse matters. This is not a debunk of anything, nothing at all. And you don't need to, if you want to debunk things, go to this man. You can go to Carlson, he's your friend.

You could go to Megan Kelly. She's your friend. You could go to the Daily Mail. You've proven there your friend. You could go to Cash Patel. You could have the President of the United States, who's your friend, publish it onto the White House Twitter feed. But you didn't do any of that because you wanted plausible legal distance.

because you did not want to tie up people who are reputable. You wanted somebody who prides himself on being disreputable, who does not care, who's willing to lie for cash, he does not care at all. He's like, I will say the thing. We watched him do that live over and over again on this show. And you did that for what purpose? I think to distract from the investigation,

I think it proves that you had no respect at all for Charlie, your marriage, your children. It's sick, it's disturbing. I'm so disturbed by it. When I recognize what he was saying this footage was that she had handed this over to him, it's sickened me. I feel sick when I think about it. And by the way, guys, it's about to get sicker because she's also going to sell her mom.

Okay. In addition, he alleges that Erica supplied him with a private text communication between her and her mother from September 8th. Again, nothing about these messages is going to tell us where Erica is. We're not going to be able to say whether she's on Fort Watchuka base, whether she's in Arizona. Zona, I've never said that she's at Port Wajuga. I couldn't tell you. I don't have Mitch's eyes. And these people have been dancing around just giving an answer.

They'd rather file a lawsuit than answer a text message. It's bizarre. But here is the text message thread that he showed about her, apparently between her and her mother. She's giving this information to Andrew Wilson. I cannot process this in my mind. Mama Lowe. Her mother writes, did you make it to the? the bank. You make the bank? I'm sorry. I am so much work and you're just tapped out.

Erica says, no, you're fine. I love you. I just am trying to fit it in. I'm still at the bank. I can say what bank? I say where the bank is. Charlie wants me to make him dinner also. So if I don't respond, I'm not ignoring you. The time is 4.13 p.m. They go on. It's 5 o'clock p.m. Her mother writes, the scale reaches 100.8 after a late lunch. She's talking about her own weight and illness. And then Erica writes back, do you like broccoli soup? I don't know why we're being,

why we're privy to this. This is totally odd. This doesn't tell us anything. And then the mother replies, yes, please, use only the flowers, not the stems. Okay?

Stems kill, she writes. Stems connect to flowers, throw out. Erica responds at 7.18 p.m. and says, okay, how are you feeling? Our mother at 9.20 p.m. says, okay, my tremors are intense. Then Erica writes back, please make sure you eat. We have learned nothing about where Erica is at a bank. If these are to be believed, I have no idea, these tech messages are real.

I have no idea why they're coming from Virginia Wilson. I have no idea what they have through Fort War Hoodtuk. I really don't understand what they have to do with Fort Worth Juke. I really don't understand what they have to do with Fort Worthuca. It does nothing but demonstrate Erica's character. And that's why I wanted to harp on this because it's so disgusting that you would sell your sick mother and your last memories of your husband with your kids to Andrew Wilson for the purposes of trolling. This is just a troll.

There's nothing that's been clarified here. It's just meant to confuse people. And then he says, well, the metadata shows. And then he keeps showing the September 8th metadata. like Andrew Wilson is not even smart enough to know that you can just edit the metadata on your own phone for every photo that you have in your entire phone. Every photo you could just take it, go through it,

and you can edit the metadata to say whatever you want. And I think it is best illustrated by Baron Coleman's tweet. He wrote back this. He wrote, most people don't know, but bottled water dates back centuries. Here is a rare picture from March of 1609 showing a bottled, a bottled water. water in Persia. Trust me, bro. And he just edited the metadata to say that he took this photo

on March 23rd in 1609. Andrew didn't know this, nor does he care. He's meant to be a chaos agent. We're aware of what those people are when governments get nervous, when the military gets nervous, we learn about this when people who are in my book club, when I was like, you absolutely must read chaos and what the government does. Then when you start to see these sorts of campaigns and meant to distract, that to me feels like an intentional federal push that wants you to focus on this or focus on debunking this or responding to this. And that's why I say it's really important to remain focused. I do find Erica to be some sort of a odd government upon. I think that has been very clear to me that she is from everywhere that she's with, the people that she partners with,

the lack of answers that she provides and doing things that a wife, a widow, would not naturally do, partnerships that you would not naturally make with people, people like Andrew Wilson and Rachel Wilson. It's just unmistakable to me that there was something very wrong and deranged about Erica Kirk. And I will hear no more on the topic. It's like I'm asserting that as a fact after seeing this correspondence, which we should not have seen and clarifies nothing. Anyway, we'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, I have talked about Nimi's tallow skin care before,

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I'm literally gay and I would never have posted this in my entire life. It's just so strange. People thought it was AI that I was trolling in yesterday's thumbnail, and they were so shocked and they realized that, no, this is real. They put this out themselves. No, I am not trolling. Tammy Plyman writes, Barron merch idea, second favorite host, you guys are sending the best merch idea. Second favorite host, I love that. I also saw people that were saying that we should do make them a hot dog. But it's just there's, we will definitely be dropping some barren trolls without question in the merch store. Maybe next week or the beginning of the week after that we will have something for you, but keep sending the suggestions because we love them. Comments from today's episode, Ali writes, even if Pickles did prove that Erica wasn't at first,

at Wachuka, how is that some kind of own? Because you've said from the start that you weren't sure if she was there. I said so many times it was ad nauseum. I was like, this is not something I can confirm. You go on to write, you have been asking them for a statement or an alibi for months. You only got interested when they started giving fake alibis and overreacting. It was truly the bizarre overreaction, them sending out every paramount tactical, suddenly talking to his son.

It was crazy. It was like literally at that point, I didn't know Mitch from a hole in the wall. I did everything I could to verify the story, and I made that very clear. And I said, look, he could be one of those people that remember his faces or he doesn't. And also, I also said that even if he did see Erica on September 8th at a hotel didn't mean anything because we knew that her mother had military contracts. So I was also like, what does that actually mean? He didn't say that she was in some weird meeting. He just said he started leaving a hotel on the base.

And I thought, okay, well, Erica has grown up around the military. That could not mean anything. She just have literally been going to see a friend. she could have been dropping off something to a friend. I was not convinced of anything regarding what this meant about Erica if she was at Fort Wachuka. Until they just, the overreaction, the influencers that were put together, it seemed to me, the majority of them, Green Berets didn't help, like, okay, the military, getting together a bunch of military guys to respond to this and start threatening people and being so forceful never made sense to me. So it wasn't the story probably would have maybe fade to the back.

as I, until they started acting weird. Against the Darkness writes, Candace has shifted the collective consciousness of the masses to see through the deception and lies. Charlie predicted this. Rest well, Charlie, you had never forgotten. Thank you for saying that. I do think this is what we're doing right now

is a lot of what Charlie predicted that his death would contribute to a wider awakening. I wish he did not have to die for a wider awakening, of course. But I now try to see things like the people coming together of a left and the right coming together and us just calling BS instantly on a lot of these narratives as a consequence because the devil overplayed his hand. Christy, Christy writes, Candice, we don't know, no, but we know who may be behind this, the multiples. Have you thought about your trajectory after this case closes? You say that you are not interested in politics, but would you for the

greater good? I'm genuinely not interested in politics. I am so sickened by them. And that's just where I am right now. I know that you can make plans and God laughs, but I can say that, watching what happened to Charlie and the people that betrayed him and the people that betrayed him every day and how much of his life he gave to politics, I don't want to be that person. I want to give my life to the people that make my life better. And it's not in D.C. Those people absolutely sicken me. We have the Epstein class of people still trying to gaslight us about what's in the files that they're hiding, by the way. They have not released all the files. If there's nothing to hide, there's nothing to hide.

UFO writes, Erica Franz Fonsefay continues to expose herself. She is desperate. Andrew Ashdray gained traction after you humiliated him, and he is now quickly losing it. He's a low-life grifter. Everybody can see that. It's not helpful to them, helpful to them to give him anything. Just give it to a respectable journalist. This is bonkers that they're doing this. And like I said, it shows that they want some legal distance.

That's how I read it. They want somebody who is a routine liar who does not care, who has nothing to lose, and who will just go out there and troll people, try to get people trapped into defamation suits. basically they want a guy to do their dirty work. They're picking someone who has also proven that he's not that smart. Okay. Just like he just doesn't seem like he's that smart that he doesn't understand basic concepts. He doesn't do basic research. He's more of a performer. I would describe him and his wife as performers and ghetto ones at that. They are ghetto. There's no other way to say. They're very trashy people. And you just can't keep up this pretense of holier than thou, the Lord, the Lord. I I wouldn't want Erica in front of kids. I don't want her in front of middle schoolers. I don't want her in front of high schoolers. I don't like the questions.

I don't like the facade. I don't like the lingering questions that she refuses to answer. And like I said, there may be answers. But the fact that she refuses to give them and partners with people like this should make every parent uneasy. And I think that's why so many parents revolted with her mandated assembly over at the Christian school in Idaho,

like not a name of it. So I would like, like to urge parents or commend parents, but also to urge parents to recognize that, I urge parents to recognize this is a different company. This is a different organization. This is not what Charlie Kirk built. We see evidence of that everywhere. Erica Kirk is very different from Charlie and how he handled things. How very different that organization under Charlie Kirk. Blake Neff is obviously unwell. It's the nicest way that we could possibly say it. he's coming apart. And this is not an organization that believes in free speech and believes in

meritocracy and believes in the free markets. This is an organization that believes in power and has demonstrated themselves as willing to engage in corrupt measures to get what they want. And that's the nicest way that I can say it. Anyway, you guys, you know how you can support the show, buy some merch, stay a while, shop around, get yourself a mug, a nice, coffee mug you wake up in the morning. Maybe you're staying up late, not too late. Maybe you're going over to the after party at Barron Coleman's, but you're obviously not going to be up in the wee hours, the crackhead hours, as I call them with Andrew Wilson. It is good to have a mug for your coffee. You could buy that, you guys. You can also join our book club. You can buy my book. I really love

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