Candace - TPUSA RESPONDS: Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. | Candace Ep 249
Episode Date: October 7, 2025Turning Point responds to the release of the group chat messages, X has a meltdown, and a Turning Point donor publishes a touching letter regarding me. 00:00 - Start. 01:03 - X has a meltdown and ...TPUSA addresses the text messages. 28:19 - Robert J. O'Neill questions the Charlie Kirk assassination narrative. 34:36 - Lingering questions and where is Lance Twiggs? 43:13 - John & Irina Mappin's touching letter. 57:46 - Comments. Riverbend Ranch Get $20 off your first order with promo code CANDACE at http://www.Riverbendranch.com Fatty 15 Fatty15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to help support your long-term health and wellness -especially as you age. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to http://fatty15.com/CANDACE and using code CANDACE at checkout. SaunaSpace Save 10% with code CANDACE at http://www.SaunaSpace.com/Candace Tax Network USA Call 800-958-1000 or visit http://TNUSA.com/CANDACE to talk to a real expert at Tax Network USA. Take the pressure off. Let Tax Network USA handle your tax issues. American Financing NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Nimi Skincare Win $500 and Support Life! A giveaway with purpose: prizes for you and a donation in your honor. Plus 10% of all sales made during the giveaway period will be donated to PreBorn! Learn more at http://www.NimiSkinare.com/Life. Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. I got to tell you something, Twitter or X, it hasn't really been that fun in a really long time. I think Elon Musk clearly gave it away to the military. And we now have to suffer these military bot farms calling for war with Iran. But last night, the platform was exceptional. It was amazing. The tears that were being shed all over the place. I mean, I really picked out the best responses to me dropping the text messages. It was hilarious. Anyway, turning
Point USA has responded to the release of the messages. So we are going to watch that. Spoiler alert,
they were real, of course. And on top of that, Turning Point USA donor has published a public
letter regarding me. And I was truly touched by it. And I think you will be too. So I want to share
that. Welcome back to Candace.
My little sister called me this morning, and she was like, Candace, your podcast right now is like the show Succession on HBO.
You guys know this show, which is about how all of the heirs and supposed to be kind of fashioned after Rupert Murdoch's throne, all the siblings are fighting one another to see who will it be?
Who will it be that gets this empire that really made me chuckle?
I think that should be our new show intro.
Yes, yes, yes, who will succeed, Charlie Kirk?
Who shall inherit the turning point throne?
You know what, you guys, the best part of all of this for me
is unlike those ill-begotten errors on the show,
I have a zero percent interest in Charlie's empire. I am not motivated by the idea of carrying on his torch. Not for a single moment did I think any person could carry on his torch. If you thought you could, you clearly did not know Charlie Kirk. Charlie was in fact an anomaly in the system. It happens rarely. And yeah, I don't know that I will live to see another person like him. I want you guys to know something. I want to share this with you. You can take it or you can leave it. But Charlie,
was betrayed. I know this. I've known this really since the first seconds, but I rarely have
vivid dreams, and I did, in fact, have a very vivid one over the weekend. In fact, the last time
that I had a super vivid dream, I was pregnant, tends to happen a lot to women when they're pregnant,
but in that dream from 2003, my former producer of the show and I were standing in the control room
and she told me that she was 26 weeks pregnant.
This is in the dream.
And she told me exactly what month the baby was coming.
I asked her in the dream,
is it a boy?
Is it a girl?
And she said, it's a boy.
I woke up and I immediately texted my producer in real life.
And I said, hey, you're pregnant just so you know it's a boy.
And then she found out that she was pregnant one week later.
She had no idea when I texted her.
And it's something that we reflected on a couple of months later
because she was just totally shocked looking back on it.
And this is our text chain from, you can see,
2003. She said, you texted me June 16th. And I think I got pregnant June 26. This is crazy. And it's
going to be a boy. It's nuts. I said, I'm telling you, your baby visited me. It was an insanely
vivid dream. He was on his way. And she said, that is so bizarre. My mom also texted me that
week saying that she had a dream. I was pregnant. I said, I haven't had a dream that vivid since.
It's been my only vivid dream this entire pregnancy. I believe people can communicate in dreams
on their way in and on their way out of this world. I similarly, like I just said, had a vivid dream this
weekend and Charlie came to me and he told me that he was betrayed. And so for me, you don't have to
believe that, but I do believe that. And it was the immediate sense I got actually and I don't know
who exactly it is that betrayed him. But I also felt in the dream that it is soon going to be
revealed, that it's actually inevitable that it is going to be revealed, that there is
nothing and no one that is going to stop the truth from coming out and it is going to have
international consequences. Take that to the bank. Quote me on that. Women tend to have a
stronger intuition about people, I would say. I think it was the writer-producer Conrad Flynn
that recently went on to Tucker Carlson's show and he discussed that, discussed that phenomenon
in the context of the persecution of Christ.
talking about Pontius Pilate's wife, warning him not to persecute Jesus.
Take a listen to that portion of their conversation.
And if you look at Pontius Pilate, Pontius Pilate, you know, he wants to set, at some point he flips.
And he's like, you know, this guy is innocent.
My wife is having dreams about this man.
That's another thing that's underreported history.
Wife as soothsayer slash dreamer.
I mean, your wife has many times been like, I have a bad feeling about this guy, Tucker.
Don't have them on your show.
And her intuition is such that even though there's no necessarily hard evidence, you know, it's your wife's take on stuff.
You don't ignore it.
But that's...
I have ignored it.
You're like, I've actually never listened to that.
No.
I mean, I've been married 34 years as of Saturday.
And it's like a joke in my house, you know, I told you he was bad.
I don't know.
He's hilarious.
He's like a good guy to me.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
So you'd be the Pontius Pallet, which he's like,
Don't arrest this, man.
I had a dream.
100%.
And you're like, whatever, I'm doing my work right now.
I'm very shallow.
So someone who's amusing or fun to have dinner with, you know, I just get swept away.
I like that guy.
You know what I mean?
You're like, Brabis was amazing on that podcast.
I got to have him on these.
She's fantastic.
It's actually really funny because I'm recapping conversations that I've had with Tucker where I'm like, I don't know why you trust that person at all.
It's obviously a bad guy.
He's like, no, I like him, but I'd really nice dinner with him.
Anyways, obviously what they're accurately describing, I should say, especially between a husband and a wife, definitely my relationship with my husband, I can say that from almost the very moment that I learned that Charlie was not going to make it, I said to George through tears that he was betrayed.
And now we're all just sort of on this journey to find out by who.
So I released a text message yesterday, dropped it on the world, and it caused, and this is putting it mildly, a lot of panic.
As I said, the chatter on X was top tier.
Emphasis on the tier because there were a lot of them being shed by everyone who was discounting me.
She's this, she's that, she's lying.
Charlie never changed his mind.
He was committed to Israel to the day he died.
In fact, he almost died for Israel.
That was the vibe they were putting down and I was getting angrier and angrier and angrier.
But self-control always pays off.
There were moments on X where people were, after this text message,
was revealed, almost like bargaining.
Like, please, this can't be real.
Let me show you.
They're making fake messages themselves.
This is how easy it is to make a fake message.
This cannot be real.
They were accusing, deluding themselves into believing whatever was necessary for them not
to accept the reality that I was telling the truth.
Of course, I was telling the truth.
Here's just a few of my favorites.
This is Village Crazy Lady, who I love Mel, who was responding to an absurdity
that was being presented by Ashton Forbes, Mel said,
these losers are down so bad right now
that they are literally using their own attack lines for defense.
Ashton Forbes wrote, he's been absolutely maniacal.
First off, Candace has no credibility.
Second, there's a bunch of Telegram group chat scams
that claim to be real people.
I was briefly in touch with one Elon Musk.
Oh, really? You were in touch with Elon Musk on Telegram?
Third, if you discount the text messages
between Tyler Robinson and his trans furry lover,
you cannot take these at face value.
Lastly, even if the text messages were real,
they mean literally nothing related to Charlie's death.
I find it scary how Candace is building a literal cult.
Soon, they'll be drinking a Kool-Aid in sync with,
I don't even know if that says 31 Atlas to be sent to heaven.
I think that might be a cult, actually.
That's how I'm not Nicole at all,
so much I don't even recognize what's probably a very big cult's name.
And I love that Mel replies and says, bro, if I got scammed in a telegram group chat by Elon Musk, quote, unquote, I'd take that ish to my grave.
Britta, you can see, she's also replying, he was replying to Britta, no soup for Knowles.
If you want to bring that right back up, she wrote, and by the way, she used to work for Seth Dillon.
So this is the usual chatter, a group of people?
She wrote, is Candice posting fake group chat screenshots to conveniently back up her narrative that Charlie was dropping the pro-Israel
cause and inviting Candace to the TPUS stage. I'm just asking questions. All fair. We allow
questions. We even allow diagnoses. We're all, we're chill. We're on the side of truth. We are so
chill. Laura Lumer, who is legally just, you know, not allowed to own a gun because she's a literal
lunatic, had the nerve to post this about me. When somebody called her out, Morgan Ariel said,
Laura Lumer hasn't made a single post about Candace Owens reporting on Charlie Kirk's group messages. We all know
she's the first to run her mouth. And she wrote, because I don't give an F about Candace Owens and her postpartum psychotic rants. Even if those texts are real, still does not mean that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I never said that.
Candice Owens makes content for low IQ people who don't understand how criminal investigations work. It's going to be hilarious when she is sued by TPUSA in addition to McCrone's wife.
Yes, bankrupt her for telling the truth. Do it. Do it. Bankrupt her. Yeah.
and you are down bad, just like Mel says.
And they're really down bad.
Nothing is left.
You just sue.
Anyways, back to how unhinged just chatter was on X, generally speaking.
I laughed out loud.
Everybody uses the term Blitzkrieg.
Even in the NFL football team say Blitzkrieg.
Yes, it relates back to Germany.
It's a bombardment strategy.
So that's why we use it when you're going to bombard.
And so I called it Blitzkrieg week.
because we're just dropping a bunch of bombs.
And Britta decided to take that literally.
She said, Candice thinks it's cute to use Nazi terminology and make a turning point pun.
While she incites further harassment of TPSA employees by implicating them in Charlie's death,
it's a sick game for her.
And out of nowhere, Megan Kelly needs to stop making excuses for this vile behavior.
I have no idea why Megan Kelly is being just abused.
It's like these people just get drunk and beat Megan.
Kelly when they get home. I don't know what is happening and why she's being dragged into
anything that I say, but it's exceptional that they're now looking, they're so desperate.
That German words, you can't even say Blitz, Blitz, means lightning, Kriegg means war.
Last I checked, people are still allowed to speak German. And last I check, everybody uses
the terminology Blitz, Blitz Kriag, Washington Post certainly does from the describing things
that's happening at the White House. But now this is how desperate they
are for anything, grasping at straws.
Nick Fuentes, our routine federal informant wrote,
writes this, why did she sit on this for four weeks
and then censor the other names?
Just grasping at straws.
Just grasping at straws here.
You follow that up by taking a stab at Charlie Kirk,
who's dead.
Charlie Kirk said he had no choice to leave the pro-Israel cause
because a Jewish donor stopped giving him millions of dollars.
What a coincidence.
He had his great epiphany about Israel after they said,
stopped paying him to shill. Speaking of paying people to shill, it's why I didn't take one
minute or one sentence, rather, of him trying to eulogize Charlie Kirk seriously, because that
right there is the real Nick Fuentes. The quartering jumped in. He says, a serious question,
let's assume the text surreal and that Charlie was 100% serious and not just being sarcastic,
which is totally possible. What exactly does this prove? Think before you reply, what does it
prove other than someone close to him was fine leaking his texts? That's,
than their new talking point. How dare you leak text messages?
And finally, this is just funny. So we're going to show you this. Community notes for the win.
The misfit patriot writes, I will give Candace every single shekel. Israel has paid me for my posts.
If she can prove those text messages are real. Update, says community notes. Andrew Colvette confirmed the screen grab was real. Of course it was real. I mean, I would have to be the dumbest person ever. First off, I'm not even inclined towards.
tech, but also would have to be an absolutely moron to try to figure out how to manufacture
text messages for the purpose of releasing them to then probably get sued by every person
that was not in the chat. I'm just like, hey, Josh Hammer received this message. I'd be so
dumb. But like I said, these people were desperate for it not to be real because they've been
lying so hard about everything. They've just been lying. And they have some egg on their face now.
And reality hit them pretty quickly this morning when Andrew Colvette, turning point.
spokesperson confirmed that the messages were in fact real. He did this on the Charlie Kirk show. And actually, I don't think it's dramatic to state that this may be the first respectable measure taken by Turning Point USA executives since the passing of Charlie Kirk, like the first respectable response. And yeah, I thought that that was, I will compliment that. Just the action of Andrew Colvette addressing it head on instantly was good.
So let's hear Andrew Colvette in his own words.
But I want to take the start of this show to address some of the things that have been going around on public,
namely about a group text chain that has been made known and released by Candace Owens.
And I just want to dress it head on because, you know, that was a text grab, a screen grab that I had shared with people.
So it is authentic.
And I want to go into it because I actually am really excited.
that the truth is out there. I first want to say the reason I didn't share that screen grab publicly
is because it was a private exchange. And I felt like it didn't necessarily comport with things
that were already public. I wanted to not betray my friends' trust in that way. But I did share it
with some people in government because it happened really quick. It took 33 hours for authorities
to get their suspect. And in those first moments,
we wanted no stone unturned. We wanted to leave nothing unturned. So I shared it with a few people.
Don't know where it went from there, apparently. But here we are. So one of the reasons, Blake,
that I'm glad to have this now public, it was not mine to share publicly. But one of the criticisms
we've received is that we don't care. We're not investigating every lead. We're not looking under
every stone. And that somehow we're just like, you know, sweeping things under the rug.
And when I say that we want justice for Charlie more than anybody else, I really mean it, and no stone unturn.
I mean, I don't know if you want to chime in on that part alone, but I have more to say.
Yeah, so it's, it has been so frustrating to have people blow up about this.
And we've stated, I've certainly stated publicly.
The reason I haven't waited on things is I am an eyewitness to events.
And they've said, don't comment on things because anything you say can mess that up.
I don't want to mess up any trial for the person who did this.
it's a thousand percent right. And I will say I wasn't an eyewitness. I was not there. I flew
to Utah immediately to be with the family and the team, but I was not an eyewitness. So there's
that. But I am aware that in my role as spokesman for Turning Point USA, which is another hat I
wear, the things I say, I'm cognizant of the fact that things I say could negatively impact
an ongoing investigation. All right? But I will weigh in specifically on this issue of Israel,
because I know there's a lot of fascination.
And I just want to say that, you know,
we have to let free speech be our North Star here, okay?
Charlie was adamantly free speech,
and I am not personally going to impugn anybody's character
who is asking questions and looking for answers, all right?
And I will say that that text chain is consistent
with public frustrations that he voiced many times.
And I know, Blake, you were in the trenches
on a lot of this stuff because we were
workshopping how we were going to do the tour
and what he's going to get asked about Israel
what he's going to say and this is
consistent with things that he told
his friends, people that are
in the wider movement
about his wrestle that he was
going and so I just want to say like what is
the truth about the way Charlie felt
about Israel? Well it's complicated
and it's nuanced and it was a wrestle
that was going on for months
and it's probably somewhere between the BB letter
and the text.
So what do we think? Okay, obviously
you can tell he's anxious. You can tell he's nervous
speaking about this. I am sure it was positively frantic
at Turning Point USA yesterday. I am sure he had very little sleep. And like I
say, never the fun thing to be the spokesperson and also to be involved
in the story. I can tell you right off the bat. He is telling the truth. He was not
the person who shared that message with me. He also should know
that he was not the only person who sent that message and sent messages around. So there are a lot
circulating, some videos that are circulating. And yeah, he's being honest about that portion.
I personally, as someone who knows Andrew Colvin, I want to express how I feel. I hold it against him,
actually, that he didn't share it with me. He knew, I cried on the phone with Andrew. He knew how I was
feeling. And then I went under a very, well, you could say a blitzkrieg,
right, a heavy bombardment from people who he knows hated Charlie, who tried to stop Charlie,
people who had no issues showing up to his memorial, I mean, really gross stuff, who were
attacking me. And he could have at least provided some cover. Now, I'm not saying that I need help,
but sometimes it's nice to offer somebody a lifeboat when they're being attacked for telling the truth,
right? So I do want to say that. Also, I'm glad that Andrew responded correctly because I was going
to say this when Blake's like, well, you know, the investigation's ongoing, that text message has nothing to do as an investigation whatsoever. It has to do with the broader question of people feeling that Charlie's legacy is intentionally being hijacked by Israel. I never stated that Israel killed Charlie. Anybody that has been watching this investigative series, we've come up, I mean, there hasn't even been an Israeli name that's popped up in this investigation. There's only been one Jewish person, I think, that's popped up thus far in this investigation, which is George Zinn, decoy boy. So they're just saying that. They're just saying.
that. I just wanted to say that he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. Now, regarding
the other things that are circulating that have not been publicized yet, and people should know
that there is an underground movement of truth tellers in this moment. Okay, there is an underground
movement of nights all around the world, from mom sleuths to government employees, like he said,
to personal assistance, to Turning Point USA donors, who are working.
working together to bring justice to Charlie because we don't like the way this feels.
We just like the way it feels. The vibes are off. I will respect, even though obviously that
statement was prepared, I will respect the fact that Andrew says what Charlie would have said.
And for the first time, I feel that's been expressed that we have to let free speech be our North
Star. And I'm not so sure that the people, some of the people that are donating to Turning Point USA
believe that. In fact, I'm certain some of them don't believe that. Obviously,
we wouldn't have that text message if they all believed that.
And that is what I think has been so frustrating
is that it seems as though the executives would rather,
and I'm now referring to Tyler Boyer,
impugn the character of the people
who are doing exactly what Charlie Kirk would have done.
So please, Andrew, make sure that Tyler Boyer and Alex Clark
get the internal memo about free speech.
I want to say one more thing rather explosively.
three people told me off record two people who have this in a written communication from Charlie
one who was a turning point USA donor and I would say very much one of the white knights in this
the very day before Charlie Kirk died he expressed that he thought he was going to be killed
he told these people I think they're going to kill me okay he did not express that to me
So I am telling you this based off the testimony of three people.
And I am saying this because I hope that these people who I think are good
will be inspired to come forward with that.
Again, those conversations I had were off record.
I honor that.
If I say it's off record, it stays off record.
But I'm hoping that watching what I am doing
and feeling the energy that is rising across the world
for people who want to know what the heck happened on 9-10,
that, you know, they will be brave and they will say,
yeah, Charlie did the day before he died
I think that he was going to be killed
and maybe tell us who is they?
Well, for once and for all, who is they?
Who is the they that he thought
were going to kill him?
Now to answer, to give the obvious answer
to federal informant Nick Fuentes' question,
the reason that I waited to reveal
the text messages is because I'm not a child.
Okay?
Like I said, I have a lot more.
I'm an idiot and I have self-control
and I understand
that time is always going to be
on the side of truth.
Time is on the side of truth.
Liars know that that's the reality.
Liars know that they have to speak quickly,
that they have to speak repeatedly.
And I wanted the world to truly understand
just exactly what it is that we are up against, okay?
People that I deem to be mentally and spiritually evil, okay?
Evil in the true essence of the word evil.
People who knowingly lied, instantly lied,
repeatedly lied and continued to do so without a trace of shame. Okay? That a trace of shame.
I mean that, right? I really do mean it when I say that you have to be someone that is or maybe
rather someone that is possessed by something that is less than human, subhuman to do that.
There's no humanity in you. That is why I named Josh Hammer. I believe he is a deeply
disturbed man. Think about that. Now that you have those messages, okay, let's put this in the context.
Just a few hours before I dropped that text chain, Josh Hammer was concerning himself with what he's
been doing since Charlie caught the bullet in his neck. He has been spreading lies saying that
Charlie never flinched on Israel, right? Charlie never flinched. Oh, my God, these people I get
is they're lying. 48 hours before Josh Hammer was on that text thread. And that did not stop him.
from keeping up the propagandist effort when he went on a show yesterday for I dropped the messages and said this.
Charlie was a close friend of mine, as you know.
We actually spoke literally the night before his tragic and untimely death.
I was on a small Zoom call with him and a couple others.
We were literally talking through this topic.
I was giving Charlie advice for how to message on this issue on his forthcoming campus tour.
You know, he kind of jokingly mentioned to me.
He was like, Josh, I'm going to mention your book, Israel and Civilization.
and it's so good. And that was literally our last conversation. It's just so tragic.
This letter that he wrote to the prime minister, Chris, I read back in June or July or so.
And there were so many people in the aftermath of his horrific assassination, Candace Owens, folks like that,
who were saying that, oh, Charlie was turning on Israel. He was ready to sell them out and
renounce his life's work of sincere and genuine friendship with the Jewish people and the Jewish state.
But this letter that he wrote to Bevin Netanyahu, Chris, literally begins. The first
sentence of the letter is, I'm paraphrasing here, but to close paraphrase, as a Christian,
one of my greatest joys in life is making friendships with the Jewish people and defending
the state of Israel. That's literally the opening sentence of this letter.
Filth. Okay? Absolute filth. I don't understand it. I can't comprehend it. Whatever that is
that lives in him does not live in me. There was no truth in him. Obviously, there was no truth in
Josh Hammer. He could have said, oh, Charlie was going through 48 hours earlier. Yeah, he refused to do that. In fact, I'm quite alarmed with what I know that there are three people who said that Charlie communicated 24 hours before he died, that he thought they were going to kill him. Now I find it rather alarming that Josh Hammer is similarly saying, oh, the night before. So you spoke to him the night before. Did he communicate that to you, Josh Hammer? Did he? I'm interested. I know we won't get answers from you.
But let me promise you that if I get a text message to the effect that you were somehow involved in him feeling anxiety the day before, if you did something that gave him anxiety in that way, I will release it instantly.
There will be no place that you can hide.
Anyways, I want you guys to know that I was feeling so inspired by Josh Hammer's utter lack of human decency that I went ahead this week and sent around a life insurance.
policy of shorts, of sorts, a package rather, to people that I trust, a package filled with
text messages, emails, private communications, videos, and private legal documents. So if anything
happens to me, you guys will know exactly who it is that has a making my life a living hell
over the past couple of years. People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying to bankrupt
be in my family that are threatening us to sue us. Everything that Kanye said was so real, okay? I'm now
at that point where you look back and you go, man, Kanye was right. He was really saying something
about what it takes to leave, you know, to fight for custody of your own soul. Just leave me alone.
Let me say what I believe and you say what you believe. Fight fair. Why do you always have to make
this threat to bankrupt people? And I want you to know that those people, if anything happens to me,
they have my explicit permission to release it all, detonate it all, expose all of these people
in politics and in the movement who behave like this behind the scenes.
it's necessary. And I highly recommend every single person that is out there that has a platform and is going through things and scared. Do the same. Send everything around to about eight people that you trust. And I mean, I've ranged it. I sent it to journalists, text messages and screenshots to people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tate. They won't know where it's coming from. It will be everywhere. I want to remind you guys in the wake of all of this that it is so important.
to keep trusting our guts.
We have been proven right so many times in the recent past, right,
whether we're speaking about COVID, people that had to actually take a stance before people
were then suddenly government, oh, it admits, oh, yeah, we were lying, we were lying
about this, we were lying about that, we feel it all right now, the feds are lying.
That is beyond obvious, which is why I was very happy to hear former Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill
explain this plainly when he went on Pierce Morgan's show the other day. Let's take a listen
to what he had to say. Me, I mean, it was off it right from the beginning for me.
From, do we not guard rooftops anymore? There's been assassinations, assassination attempts
all over the world. Why aren't we looking at rooftops? And then when I was sent the, I was
sent the video at the same message where they said Charlie Kirk was just shot. When I watched
that horrific video, he was obviously dead before he hit the ground.
But the questions immediately started to come to me.
That was not an entry ruin that we saw.
We saw an exit wound.
So where'd that bullet come from?
You don't bleed light.
And I've shot guys closer than the camera was.
And an entry wound doesn't look like that.
An exit wound does.
Why did his shirt move the way it did?
When I've shot people, their shirts didn't move like that.
And then the initial reaction was, well, he was obviously wearing body armor, and it was deflection.
One, no.
He wasn't wearing body armor.
And two, it doesn't deflect like that off of body armor.
Why was his shirt moving from right to left?
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it's just the the official story sounds like it needs to be investigated but now you know
the whole crime scene's gone they paved over it nothing to see here
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I don't think the majority of people in the world feel that we know what happened. And I want
you guys to know that we have not, for a single second, ceased our investigation. What actually
happened on 9-10, we don't know. And we are still working through a ton of the tips related to
what happened. But I want to tell you,
that I maintain, I actually believe that this was a military hit that involved foreign actors
and also literal actors. I believe that that day ran something akin to JFK's assassination.
I believe that there were therefore multiple decoys on the ground. I do not believe,
just so I'm clear here, that the person who was walking up the stairs killed Charlie. In fact,
my suspicion is that that photo was not even shot on the same day. I do not believe that the person
who ran across Losey rooftop killed Charlie. I think it was another decoy. I do not believe
that shot came from a Losey Center at all. And I obviously, we all know that Decoy George Zinn
didn't kill Charlie. And I received an interesting tip about him as well, that he's much more
connected than what meets the surface. He potentially has connections to the federal department.
familial connection to the federal department, and we are prodding that. It's getting interesting.
Anyway, that would suggest that there are thus for a total of four decoys, like George Zinn, staircase guy, maroon shirt guy, and lozy center guy, none of which I believe actually pulled the trigger, call it a hunch.
I think it's much more likely that Lance Twigs is the one that is walking in that maroon shirt.
His build is nothing like Tyler Robinson's build. Lance Twiggs is thinner.
And obviously I'm speculating here. But I believe Tyler Robinson was involved and he was in fact driving around campus on that day, therefore assisting in the costume changes, likely picking up clothing. And as we broke the story, Tyler was seen at Dairy Queen. And what was he seen doing as I told you? Dumping clothing in the cemetery beside that Dairy Queen. So I think that is what his involvement is limited to. That was his
job to get rid of clothing. It's completely a nonsense to think that a person who had never
killed anyone was high on adrenaline after a kill and decided to eat Dairy Queen. That doesn't
even make sense biologically speaking. There was going to be an adrenaline measure that kicks
in after you kill a animal, yet alone a person, yet alone having it be your first kill.
And you're like, he just decided to go to DQ, sit down, write some poetic text.
It's why they are freaking out about that Dairy Queen leak because it disrupts their narrative.
One of many things that disrupts their narrative.
But what about Lance Twiggs, right?
This roommate, man, something about him.
The roommate of Tyler Robinson is, I think, federally protected.
I especially think that because we learned some more interesting facts about him.
So I feel confident or I shouldn't say completely confident, but I feel like it's okay to venture a guess that he
is a federal asset of some description.
Could be related to his online work on Discord chats.
It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Anyways, I can tell you guys, I can break this for you,
that the government, and this would implicate Governor Cox
and whoever else was a part of that press conference,
the morning after, the 33 hours after they apprehended Tyler Robinson.
The government lied when they said,
Lance, you know, I'm obviously paraphrasing here,
He came in peacefully.
He handed over everything.
I mean, the whole depiction was like he was just so shocked
that his boyfriend could do something like this.
And so he handed over everything.
Well, according to his family, that's just not true.
According to his family, he was raided
and he was angry about that raid.
And yet he was instantly released back into their care
within six hours.
Isn't that something?
They had no idea it was happening.
They were going off of Mike, the mysterious detective, Mike Mitchell's tip.
They had no confession.
They have Tyler Robinson walking in peacefully because he doesn't want to die.
And you're telling me Lance Twiggs, for whatever reason, you released him immediately back into custody.
No, they lied.
He was not being compliant and walking in and showing them everything.
Something else that was interesting, we had told you guys that Tyler's family
thought that there could have been something weird going on with that raid
that perhaps the feds could have been staging that apartment to fit into their narrative.
Now, the feds are staging this entire operation, so that would follow that if you're trying
to get a conviction, you've got to be like, and we found this in his house.
The note underneath the keyboard.
So convenient, but he destroyed it.
He took a picture of it, but then he destroyed it.
Everybody knows if you want to destroy something, so it never sees a light of day.
take a picture of it, so it lives forever in the eye cloud.
Anyways, we were told by Lance's family
that, who, by the way, own the apartment
that the two of them lived in,
that Tyler and Lance lived in,
we were told that somebody illegally changed their locks
on the home following the raid.
Obviously illegal.
They were not informed that the locks were being changed.
So it gives us two options.
It was either Lance or it was the feds.
I was wondering, like, you know, if you're Lance and you really got swept up in this and you're so shocked and Tyler Robinson did this, are you speaking to your family about that? My gosh, I imagine you want to speak to your family. No, no, it seems. Lance has similarly been in an unknown location since the raid. I would imagine he was in witness protection for a bit, but he doesn't need family. He feels, I would say, that suggests that he's pretty arrogant right now in this moment. He's not fearful of anything.
Like I said, the sense I am getting is we are watching a play, right?
The government has us completely distracted with photos of people who are not even the same person.
I never for a second thought the person that was in the maroon shirt was the same as a person that was walking with the limp.
It's completely foolish and ridiculous.
I can also tell you something else.
We received a tip, which I vetted, that on the day of Charles Christian assassination, you know, immediately,
George Zinn gets up and says, I did it, I did it, I did it, and he kind of gets dragged.
Well, apparently George Zinn had to receive medical treatment following that, little frockas.
And he told multiple nurses and doctors that he did it because he was being paid to do it.
He said he had not been paid yet, but he was going to receive payment.
He didn't know from who.
That's interesting.
Decoy boy told medical staff
multiple, apparently he was just singing
just telling everybody who would listen
that he did it
because payment was going to be promised to him
if he did do it.
What does that tell us?
We should definitely dig into George Zinn.
We should definitely try to confirm
this relatively strong tip
that he has connections to the feds
because it would be very interesting
if the feds were going to pay George Zinn.
I'm not saying they are.
but yeah why why wouldn't he know i mean make that make sense why wouldn't george zinn know where the
payment was coming from yeah anyways you guys we are on the case i wanted to share that with you
as some other explosive things that we have found out that the feds have not shared other people
that they were questioning that they did not share people that similarly have been told to be
quiet about everything and let's be clear they are not asking everyone to be silent because they
are seeking a conviction against Tyler Robinson. They are telling everybody to be silent because
they don't want to get caught. The feds are covering their own tracks. All right, guys, I want to pivot
here, and I want to read you something. Oh, now, I want to be perfectly clear that despite all
appearances over the last two weeks, it has been a very difficult time for me. Obviously,
normally when I'm covering a story, I'm bombastic and I feel brave and focused because I am speaking
about someone that has nothing to do with me. This has been particularly challenging because I had,
and I still am, very much grieving Charlie and waking up to the realization that not everyone
is grieving him in the same way, that he may have just been a political pawn to so many people
that he loved deeply. I mean, it, I'm going to be honest, even Donald Trump's non-reaction
not making any demands for truth regarding this investigation deeply upsets me.
Deeply upsets me because I know how much Charlie Kirk loved Donald Trump.
So I was just so, I was happy, brought literal tears to my eyes when a donor from Turning Point USA,
donor that actually then unlocked a whole another level of donations for Charlie Kirk through introductions that he made for Charlie.
And a donor who it's, ironically, this is the very donor that when I said to Charlie, we need to be in the UK, we need to be in the UK. And he was like, well, I know somebody who I could maybe have set up an event. We can start Turning Point UK. And that event was when I first laid eyes on George, not when I spoke to him, but when I actually first laid eyes on him. That donor issued a public statement. And I think he will be the first of many donors that might make a public statement. And he made this statement in my favor. This was written by him and his wife to
wonderful people. John and Irina Mappen. I'm just going to read it because I think these words
don't just eloquently express how I'm feeling, but I think these words eloquently might express
how we are all feeling worldwide. Like I read this and I said to myself, I couldn't have written
this better myself with all the time in the world. John and Arena write, Charlie Kirk built
Turning Point USA on transparency, free speech and a relentless pursuit of truth. We are witness to that.
If Candace Owens had been assassinated, Charlie would have torn apart every lie and devoted every working day and night to uncovering the full truth.
He would not have trusted the authorities to deliver justice. He would have demanded it from the rooftops.
Charlie would not have waited for the funeral or memorial to happen. He would have gotten to work immediately.
He would have worked night and day to uncover exactly what had happened to his great friend.
Consider this. Charlie did not sleep for several days and several nights just to ensure that J.D. Vance became the vice presidential nominee.
And although that job was supremely important for the country and its future,
it was still ultimately simply helping to secure a job promotion.
Candace is working to get to the truth of who killed Charlie Kirk and why they did it.
Charlie's execution is an assassination with potentially far-reaching political consequences
for America and the world.
What we have seen so far, beggar's belief.
A crime scene apparently completely destroyed in days and plenty of evidence that simply does not add up.
This investigation and the truthful answer as to who was.
really responsible for deciding that Charlie would be executed in front of the world
will affect America's future, its collective soul and conscience forever.
The truth, when known, and we believe it will be known, will have far-reaching international
consequences. The very idea that someone could be convicted and could receive the death
penalty when there remains even the slightest shadow of doubt or shred of uncertainty that
they may not be guilty of that crime, and that Christian souls would tolerate that possibility
is anathema to all the teachings of Christ.
If there were circumstances where a suspect
or someone standing trial for murder did not
have a clean opportunity to receive the very best
and fairest legal representation
to present their case and defense to the world,
it would have been abhorrent to Charlie Kirk.
It would go against every constitutional principle
that he lived, fought, and died for.
Erica is in mourning.
May God bless her and her family,
please give her and her family time to grieve.
Any civilized culture, Christian, or otherwise
allows a grieving widow 40,
days of mourning to make peace with the Lord and to respect the departed.
Those people who truly love her would gladly grant her all the space she needs, we certainly
do.
But we are growing rather sick and ashamed of seeing people criticize Candace for doing her level
best to get to the bottom of and to the truth of what happened to Charlie on that day.
You don't have to agree with Candace on every subject that she addresses on her shows
to acknowledge that much of what she is presenting on the subject of Charlie's death is
extremely concerning to America and to the world, completely valid and very relevant to the
investigation. She has an army of truth seekers worldwide who are helping her in her search and her
research. This is a truly new and modern phenomenon that has never happened before. This is not
1963 and boomers need to get used to it. In our view, the official investigation should be
immediately ordered by the appropriate legal authority to proactively share everything they know
with Candace and her selected team. That is, if truth and real understanding of who decided to
assassinate Charlie and why is the sincere objective. That would go some way towards restoring
public trust in the system. It is our view that her actions are not just the actions that any real
friend would take for their friend. They are the actions of the highest order of patriotism.
Candice's actions are service to the whole country and to the world. Beyond that, they are truly
providential, divinely inspired, and metaphysical. There is a relationship between truth and all living
things. There is a relationship between truth and God. Right now, Turning Point USA is at a vital
moment. If we continue to witness the mistreatment and the suppression of a young woman and a mother
of four young children who is doing everything she can to help get to the truth about who decided
that her friend and fellow freedom fighter Charlie had to die, they will lose the country and the world.
In America will have lost one of its greatest living patriots only to see those factors against
which he fought and died for when.
Candace's extremely valid point
that hers has so far
been one of the only public voices
from Charlie's closest friends
questioning the absurdity
of some of the communications
regarding what happened
and demanding clarity
is well made
and frankly, that point alone
is shocking to the world.
We have been receiving calls
from senior Republicans
and from turning point donors
who agree with her
all last week
and they started up again this week.
They agree with Candice
but seeing the attacks
that she is experiencing
they are terrified to voice their views publicly.
Is that really where we are in 2025?
Few people following the matter believe the official version,
the virgin, version, a low minority,
believe that the current suspect is guilty.
That statistic alone is an awful commentary
on the state of the official investigation.
The world wants truth.
The world, Charlie, and those who truly loved him
and knew his purposes certainly deserved justice.
But justice needs not just to be done.
It needs to be seen to be done justly.
I want to read that sentence again because it's very powerful.
Justice needs not just to be done.
It needs to be seen to be done justly.
It must be truthful.
It must be fair and it must be clean.
If there are videos, show them.
If there is evidence, show it.
The world is not going to accept anything less.
This is not about who is right or wrong or whose theory is correct.
Kansas investigation is about actually getting to the truth, whatever that truth is.
If the current theory for the shooter is truth, then okay, that is a lie, then we need to know.
Every episode of Candice's show since Charlie died, or her heartfelt emotional tribute to her exceptional journalism has been incredible,
and anyone who cares for the truth and who wants to know who killed Charlie, for real, should watch every episode in its sequence.
The fact is that we are being told as his friends, or simply as people who had never heard of Charlie Quirk before his assassination,
simply does not make sense to the vast majority. It feels like gaslighting. It feels like we are being lied to.
It is not hard to tell the truth to the public or to present the clear facts that illustrate the truth clearly.
Many extremely ethical people helped to build turning point in all associated groups,
turning point action, and turning point faith.
Many of these people are existing and potential future donors.
We know many of them.
Ethical people will not stand for lies or injustice either privately or publicly.
The existing and future donors who were friends of Charlie's and those he loved deserve no less,
but please spare us the absurd and evil.
suppression of suggesting that Candace should not be doing exactly what she is doing.
She's doing no more and no less than what her friend Charlie would have done for her.
Her actions are far more reasonable and experientable and an assassin's bullet to the throat.
Consider for a moment the evil of possibly allowing the conviction of a potentially innocent party with the death penalty.
We can only begin to imagine the wrath of God and how upset Charlie will be
if an innocent man were to be executed for his assassination and what ill fortune would be fall.
a Christian country and the individuals that would allow this.
In this sense, Christianity and a leading Christian democracy are now on trial.
There's a special place in eternity reserved for those who would allow such an injustice.
A turning point in Charlie left in charge.
A turning point in those who Charlie left in charge failed to stay true to the principles
and purposes on which Charlie founded it and with which he and Candice originally breathed
life into it during its formative years, then turning point will end up like MySpace.
It will become just one more ineffective and rather dull has been activity. I believe that God
has other plans for Charlie and for his legacy. A cover-up of the truth is not in my view part of God's
plans. I believe that people of goodwill from all over the world will ensure that. Keep going,
Candace. Charlie is walking with you every step of the way. He loves you deeply, and you are right
about your friendship with him, never right any time. Through all the challenges that the political
arena and life brought, did he ever withdraw his friendship from you, Candace? You are,
you are an eternal cornerstone in his life and his legacy. What a great friend you are being
to him. We're all witness to that, all of our love, John and Arena. Oh, it's going to make you
cry again. It's just like, I really needed it. I don't know. I just really needed it. Like,
it's just, I feel like I kind of went through a process where I was going, like, in those two
weeks following, was any of it real? You know, like I, when I expressed to you that I felt
that Charlie's life was like the Truman show. And then I know that's how you guys felt because
we were just expecting a fight. We were just expecting a fight. And instead it seems like the very
things that Charlie was fighting lies, no matter what they were, somehow were being platformed
and allowed. So thank you, John. Thank you, Rina. I cried last night reading that. I almost cried
on air there reading it again. I needed it. So anyways, you guys.
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Like she hasn't spoken to him since 2015.
It was you guys.
Like you, this letter is for you.
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All right, you guys, I'm glad I held it together.
Glad I held it together reading that letter.
First comment that we have is from Jennifer.
Jennifer writes, do we know anything about the security team that was supposed to keep Charlie alive?
I do.
I have everybody's names, the people that we couldn't identify.
Jennifer continues so many questions since the M.O. was out there due to Trump. Why wasn't this taken into consideration where drones offered and or declined? Did they do a drill run through that morning? Amir Odom, hey, what's up? Thank you. He has a great YouTube channel, Amir Odom. He writes before we judge Candace for thinking that there's hidden agendas, we have to admit, history has given her every reason to. Absolutely. There are. This is political. Politics is a nasty business, Amir. As you know, you know, you're a friend of someone who's in politics, Brett Cooper.
Corey Henry writes,
Give me the Kool-Aid in a juice box, LMAO,
regarding Ashton Forbes cult comment.
Yeah, it was totally crazy.
I don't know what I like, yeah,
maybe we're in a cult of truth.
I don't know.
Like, what's it called?
Maybe Christianity.
I mean, like, I want to tell the truth.
So there's that.
Sarah D.
Keep going.
Candace, love from Australia.
Thank you, Sarah.
Steve writes a major victory
in defending Charlie's true legacy.
We stand with you, Candice.
The truth will come out when it does.
It will shake the found.
foundations of the world. I believe it. You believe it. We all believe it. John and Arena believe it. We feel
it, you know, like we're fighting and it feels this finality to it. Like, this had to happen. And the
demons are frantic and they're angry. And I only have a platform because I keep telling the truth.
You know, if I had lied, if I had sold my soul, which many people have done, I wouldn't have earned
your trust. And so, yeah, it comes at a cost. It certainly comes at a cost.
Last two weeks have been very hard, but it also comes at an even more amazing reward.
Justine Lowe writes, as soon as you said he was betrayed, I knew it was true.
My female intuition at work brought me to tears and prayed for your safety.
Thank you.
He was.
R& Explorer writes, thank you for fighting for the truth.
I believed you from the beginning.
I am crying as you read that letter.
I'm glad you cried now because I was like, not twice in the same year.
if I'm going to be caught crying but yeah you are laying your life and fighting for the truth for your
friend amy writes most holy theodicus bless and protect the handmaid of god candace and her family
canis so many of us in the orthodox christian community are praying for you lord have mercy on us
all yep you know it's uh it has also been great to feel the orthodox and the catholic energy rising
and I want to be clear. I'm not saying that as a pot shot to other nominations. But it feels like for a lot of, there's been a lot of persecution and a lot of this for some reason has involved, as I showed you yesterday, you know, pastors that have been a part of this, like part of spreading these lies. And that is, it's not good. It's just not good to have pastors using the Bible to lie. It's just not okay. Maheen Siddiqui writes, I think it would be interesting to do a deep dive into how the term Judeo-Christian,
came about. I'm aware of it. It seems to be a very convenient word for Israel. I don't think any of
the core values or their views on Jesus are shared. It definitively is not. And, you know, we inherited
it. We were all in public schools. We all thought the same thing. I was working for Zionist entities.
So I don't fault us our ignorance. That is how the deception is thick, you know. And we're
finally piercing through that layer for the first time. Well, Wallace rides a decoy boy. Please
reach out to Candace's people for the T. Gang Gang is inquiring. We feel like we know,
but we don't know, no, right? I agree. Elda MJ writes, rooting for you from Malaysia
and praying for your safety. You are so brave. Thank you. Donna writes, I'm not crying. You're
crying. Candice. I know you were crying. I felt the Holy Spirit in every word that you press today.
Godspeed and may he bless you eternally for what you are doing, the potential sacrifice of your life
those around you. Yeah, I think we have to be brave and I'm a real Christian. I know this life is not
it. I know it's not it. And in fact, people I know have intentionally been trying to convince us
that this is it so that they can further commit you to their matrix to get you to agree to sell
your soul, to get you to agree to lie because you're so worried about things that are in this
world. I know that Charlie, Charlie's soul was removed from his body and I know that he's watching.
And I keep that in mind. When it gets hard, I keep in mind that Charlie is watching. I know I feel that he's with me and he's proud that somebody who cared about him is fighting. Boredom took over, writes, you are literally my spirit animal and I've given me the motivation to push forward on my dream. Charlie is so proud of you, love, please don't give up on us. And these fakes should be scared. You are the storm. Thank you. We are the storm because I'm telling you, I could not do it without you guys and my family. They've just been amazing.
Luna writes, Charlie also told Dr. Frank Turk right before his death when they were having a combo about upping his security that Charlie knows, quote unquote, they want him dead. Frank shared this on his podcast following Charlie's death. That makes four. Yeah, he knew. He knew he was going to be killed. Who did he think was going to kill him? That's the question. And I'm glad to hear that Frank Turk shared that. Linda writes, girl, you made me cry. God bless you and praying for you, Ave Maria. Thank you. John, an arena made me cry. So it's really their fault.
all if you ought to be angry at anybody, you can be angry at Jodd Arena for writing that.
It just, I did.
I felt the Holy Spirit in those words.
I really did.
It's how we're all feeling.
Turtle Mama writes, I enjoy listening to your content and I feel so at peace with the
information that you share as truth, sending prayers from Mississippi and stay safe.
Thank you so much, Turtle Mama.
We're all actually doing this thing.
So thank you guys for supporting me on this journey.
Thank you for all of you guys that have signed up at canis-oens.com, bought yourself a hat,
a t-shirt, joined our CIA, the DeCentral.
which is more of a threat, by the way.
If it's centralized, you can just whack it.
If it's decentralized, it's everywhere.
And that's why I sent out that little packet to people that I trust and I said screenshots to Max.
I'm like, everyone who is threatening me behind the scenes, all that stuff, using lawfare to threaten me or speech.
Like, we're now all attached, okay?
So there we go.
I recommend that everybody does that.
Send it to people on the left, send to people on the right.
I love that people on the left and right are finally coming together.
Can I say that as well? Gosh, we are over time for the book club. Hopefully people are on this,
so they know why relate to the book club, which we have tonight as we begin this introduction
to this book, which they will not reprint, but is a must read Sigmund Freud and the Jewish
mystical tradition. So anyways, you guys, I'll see you over on canis Owens.com.
Thank you.
