Casefile True Crime - Case 274: Benjamin Amato

Episode Date: March 2, 2024

*** Content warning: Child victim *** On November 16 2001, two state troopers from the Pennsylvania State Police arrived to conduct a welfare check at the Poconos Mountains home of 52-year-old Benjamin Amato. Friends and neighbours had reported their concerns after noticing Ben’s car in his driveway for several days, but no sign of Ben himself. --- Narration – Anonymous Host Research & writing – Elsha McGill Creative direction – Milly Raso Production and music – Mike Migas Music – Andrew D.B. Joslyn Sign up for Casefile Premium: Apple Premium Spotify Premium Patreon For all credits and sources, please visit casefilepodcast.com/case-274-benjamin-amato

47 years ago, on a warm summer's night in Melbourne, Susan Bartlett and Suzanne Armstrong were stabbed to death in their home in Easy Street, Collingwood. Suzanne's 16-month-old son was asleep in his car at the time. To this day, the Easy Street murders is still one of Australia's most confronting cold cases. No one has ever been charged, and critical questions remain unanswered. Journalist Helen Thomas has been investigating Susan and Suzanne's deaths for more than a decade, initially for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's background briefing programme,

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please see the show notes for this episode on your app or on our website. Benjamin Amado's neighbours were worried. 52-year-old Ben lived alone and could often be seen coming and going from his home in Chestnut Hill Township in Pennsylvania's Pocono Mountains region. But several days had passed with no sign of him. It was now Thursday, November 15, 2001, and the last time he'd been seen was when he'd stopped at a CVS pharmacy the previous Monday evening. Strangers still, Ben's dogs are being left out on the wraparound porch of his house. This was completely unlike him. Friends and family who tried calling Ben were surprised to find that his voicemail was full,

another anomaly for a man who was typically easy to reach. Chad Price, not his real name, lived next door to Ben on Sundance Road, a leafy residential street surrounded by woodland. Although the home sat on spacious blocks with plenty of privacy, Chad was familiar enough with Ben's movements to know that something seemed off. That Thursday, Chad went to Ben's house and rang the doorbell. There was no answer. Chad returned home but couldn't shake the feeling that something wasn't right.

When Ben still hadn't surfaced the following morning, Chad called his phone. It went to his answering machine. By now, four days had passed since anyone had seen or spoken to Ben. Unsure what else to do, Chad called 911 and asked if someone could conduct a welfare check. He told the dispatcher, it's not an emergency, but it could be. It was approaching midday when two state troopers from the Pennsylvania State Police arrived at

Benjamin Amato's property. They were familiar with Ben as he volunteered for the local fire department, but Knox to Ben's door continued to go unanswered. The troopers called Dick Hoffman another volunteer firefighter who they knew was close friends with Ben. Dick promptly arrived at the property and headed straight to a window that he knew Ben always kept unlocked. It didn't budge.

Dick was officially concerned. He'd known Ben for 20 years and was aware that he struggled with his mental health. In the past few years, Ben had made two serious attempts to end his own life. It had been a year since his last suicide attempt, and Ben had since sought professional help. Although he seemed much happier lately, Ben's depression was an ongoing concern for his loved ones. The troopers decided there was no more time to waste. They forced their way in through Ben's garage door, which was located on the lower level of the house. There, at the bottom of the narrow stairwell,

lay Benjamin Amato's body. Blood pulled around him and was spattered on the walls. Although Ben was face down, it was clear that he'd been dead for several days. Forensic investigators were called to the scene. Their preliminary examination found no signs of forced entry or homicidal violence. Instead, it appeared that Ben had fallen down the stairs sustaining fatal head injuries. But then,

investigators noticed something odd. Clearly visible in the pool of blood was an impression from a boot. There was no way Ben could have made the print, as he'd been wearing sneakers at the time he died. Realisation dawned on the investigators. This wasn't an accident or a suicide. It was murder. A postmortem revealed that Benjamin Amato had been killed by three to four blows to the head with an unknown blunt object. Investigators climbed the staircase, searching for clues. At the top, they found the Blood Spatter as well as orange stains consistent with pepper spray.

Blood Spatter was also present at the base of the stairs, several feet from where Ben's body was found. This led investigators to conclude that Ben was likely climbing the stairs when someone jumped out and assaulted him with pepper spray. Once Ben was incapacitated, they struck him with either a baseball bat or baton. This caused him to fall down the stairs, where the assailant continued to strike him before fleeing the scene. The exact time of Ben's death was unclear, but the level of decomposition suggested that his

body had been lying undiscovered for several days. This made it likely that he'd been killed shortly after leaving the CVS pharmacy on Monday, November 12. The obvious question was, why? Up until his 30s, Ben had been living in New York, where he was a member of the Sanitation Department. He'd relocated to the Poconos after building a summer house with his father and falling in love with the area's natural beauty. He married a local woman and became a doting stepfather to her three children. Although the marriage ended in divorce, Ben maintained a close relationship with his step kids who continued calling him dad or poppa bear.

Semi-retired at the time of his death, he did some occasional snow plow work and enjoyed repairing cars in his spare time. Those who knew Ben described him as kind, caring and fun-loving. His friend Dick said he was, quote, big and jolly, just a hell of a nice guy. Ben lived a modest lifestyle and mostly survived off social security, making him an unlikely target for theft. Nothing appeared to have been stolen from his home, and he still had his wallet which held $1,000 cash. Nobody in the area had seen or heard anything unusual, but after speaking to those close to Ben, police had their suspicions. Ben's neighbour, Chad Price, had allegedly let himself into Ben's house on several occasions

when nobody was home. He hadn't been given permission to do so. This was intriguing in and of itself, but police grew even more suspicious after noticing that Chad wore boots that looked like they could match the bloody print of the crime scene. Chad Price was called in for questioning. He seemed nervous, flat-out denying that he'd ever let himself into Ben's house without permission. His boots were confiscated for testing. They weren't a match to the crime scene print. Although this lead fizzled out, Ben's loved ones were quick to suggest

another potential person of interest. Four years earlier in late 1997, Ben had been fosicking for parts at a local scrapyard owned by a man named Robert Kunkel. As Ben regularly frequented Roberts, the two men established a good rapport. Robert introduced Ben to his daughter, a single mother named Cheryl Kunkel. Cheryl was considered a tough and independent woman, viewed by some as a little rough around the edges.

She'd given birth to her son Gregory at the age of 17, and had spent the 12 years since working hard to build a comfortable life for the two of them. With a penchant for physical labour, she'd worked in welding, construction, and as a forklift driver, before starting a successful paving business. Although there was a 20-year age difference between them, Ben and Cheryl hit it off right away. With a shared love for sports and the outdoors, they soon began dating. It was an exciting time for the couple. They spent their spare time boating, fishing and riding quad bikes with Cheryl's 12-year-old son, Gregory, to

whom Ben became like a father figure. After about seven months, Cheryl announced that she was pregnant. But this wasn't the exciting news for Ben that Cheryl hoped it would be. While Ben was excellent with children and loved his stepkids, he didn't actually want any biological children of his own. He was too afraid that they would inherit his mental health issues. Ben's father had also recently passed away. The two had been incredibly close and Ben was still struggling with intense grief. Ben's lackluster reaction upset Cheryl. She ended the relationship, deciding to raise the child on her own. Ben

spiralled into a deep depression which led to his first suicide attempt. But by the time Cheryl gave birth to a baby boy, Ben's mental health was improving. He wanted to accept responsibility and be a part of his son's life after all. Cheryl felt differently. She ceased all contact with Ben and refused to let him visit their son. Ben was distraught by this, and his loved ones watched his mental health plummet, unsure how they could help as Ben didn't like to talk about his problems. In 2000, Ben attempted suicide again, which led to him being admitted

to a mental health facility. There, Ben was prescribed medication that helped him. As his mental health improved, so did his determination to be part of his son's life. But Cheryl remained firm. She didn't want Ben involved with their child in any capacity. The issue went to family court. A conciliation conference was held in the hopes that Ben and Cheryl could reach an agreement without having to go before a judge. Cheryl argued that Ben was incapable of being a responsible parent. To support her argument, she presented photos of his home which she argued was dirty and unkempt. But these photos were obtained without Ben's permission after Cheryl snuck into his house while he was out.

In May 2001, to Cheryl's chagrin, Ben was granted a three-hour supervised visit with his son in a public park. In June 2001, Cheryl claimed Ben was stalking her by driving past her house and filed a harassment charge against him. With no evidence to support her claim, the judge dismissed the case. Enraged, Cheryl stood up and stated, what do I have to do? Fucking kill him to get him to leave me alone. At a subsequent conciliation conference, it was suggested that Ben be given unsupervised a visit.

This made Cheryl seethe. Ben's lawyer described her as openly belligerent, arrogant, and completely out of control. It was clear to him that she had no intention whatsoever of letting Ben be involved with their child. She even tried to blackmail Ben, threatening to report him for alleged tax evasion if he continued to seek custody. Then, on September 18, 2001, a court order was entered, eliminating the supervised nature of Ben's visits with his son. Additionally, Ben told his lawyer he wanted to file a petition against Sheryl for contempt of court. This wasn't a decision he took lightly. According to his lawyer, Ben was terrified that doing so would escalate the situation. On multiple occasions, Ben apparently told his lawyer,

I am dead. I am going to be dead. If I am found dead, Cheryl will have done it. Another conciliation conference was scheduled for November 13, 2001, but Ben's lawyer never got around to filing the petition. By the time the conference rolled around, Ben was already dead. Four days after Ben Amato's murder, investigators went to question Cheryl Kunkel at the home she shared with her two sons. It was clear to police that Cheryl had a strong motive to want Ben out of the picture, but they knew motive alone wasn't an indication of guilt. Cheryl admitted to the investigators that she didn't like Ben. She said that he wasn't the gentle and caring man others believed him to be. Cheryl claimed Ben had been stalking her, sometimes showing up at her house unannounced

and driving past, yelling things out the window. While she admitted to being angry at Ben, she denied that they'd been part of a bit of custody dispute or that she had any reason to want him dead. Sheryl added that on the night the murder was thought to have occurred, she'd been at home with her two kids. Investigators presented Sheryl with a search warrant nonetheless. Inside her home, they found several pairs of boots. This wasn't unexpected given that Cheryl had always worked in manual labour. The boots were taken for testing, but none matched the bloody boot print found at the crime scene. Prior to the Bitter Custody dispute, Ben had given Cheryl $3,000 to buy a car for

her teenage son, Gregory. The car was towed for forensic examination. Nothing of interest was found. Cheryl told investigators that she'd along since moved on from Ben and had recently started dating a man named Marty Reynolds. He worked as an officer for the Pocono Mountain Regional Police. This detail gave the investigators pause. The key weapons in Ben's murder had been pepper spray and a blunt object, possibly a baton, items carried by Pennsylvania police officers. Investigators paid Marty Reynolds a visit at the station where he worked. He denied having anything to do with Benamardo's murder and consented to his locker being searched. Investigators confiscated Marty's pepper spray and inspected

his baton. It was obvious to them it wasn't the murder weapon. After providing an airtight alibi, Marty Reynolds was ruled out as a suspect. As for Cheryl Conkel, investigators weren't so sure. As the days continued to pass with no major breakthroughs, police appealed for anyone who had contact with Ben in the week leading up to his murder to come forward. Cheryl remained a person of interest, but there was no evidence tying her to the crime. While a search for fingerprints in Ben's home had turned up one usable set of prints on the sliding glass door, they didn't match Sheryl's or anyone

else in the police database. Some foreign DNA was also found at the crime scene. Testing revealed it belonged to an unknown male. Then, a search of police records revealed something interesting. In early August of 2001, three months before Ben was killed, Cheryl had called the police to report a break-in at her home. According to the report,

a safe containing $8,000 in cash had been stolen during the burglary. Sheryl had her suspicions about who was responsible. She gave the police two names. April Steinhauser was a close friend of Sheryl's. She'd previously been in a long-term relationship with Sheryl's brother, with whom she shared children. After the relationship ended, April became involved with a man named Nathaniel Evans, or Nate for short, a reputed drug dealer with a criminal record.

April also used the drugs, leading Cheryl to suspect that the couple could have targeted her for the theft. But shortly after Cheryl made the report, she'd contacted the police saying she wanted to drop the charges. This detail intrigued investigators. They wondered what could have prompted Cheryl's change of heart. Perhaps April or Nate had threatened her in some way. Or what if the theft was somehow linked with Benamato's murder? Their next move was to question Nate Evans. Tracking him down was easy. He was currently serving time for an unrelated assault at the Luzern County Correctional Facility.

Nate had been incarcerated since November 5, one week before Benomato was killed. While this meant he couldn't have committed the crime itself, investigators were still interested in any details he could provide about Cheryl Kunkel's retracted report against him. Nate was taken to an interview room at the jail. The detectives asked him if he knew why they were there. Nate responded. Yeah, you're here about us getting paid by that lady to kill that dude. Case file will be back shortly. Thank you for supporting us by listening to this episode's

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Casefile to continue to deliver quality content. According to corroborated statements from Nate Evans and April Steinhauser, it all started when Cheryl approached April with a proposition. She wanted someone to kill Ben Amato and was willing to pay them to do so. April told Cheryl that Nate would do it. The two women then allegedly drove to Ben's house to scope the place out. Cheryl thought the best way to go about it was for Nate to sneak into the garage while Ben was sleeping. He could then climb the stairs into the house and shoot Ben before staging the scene

to look like a robbery. But according to April, Cheryl then came up with a better idea. She suggested that Nate hide in the trees near Ben's driveway while he was out and lie in wait for him to come home. When Ben got out of his truck, Nate could then shoot him in the back of the head using a gun with a silencer attached. April claimed that Cheryl initially offered $5,000 for the hit before realizing she didn't have enough money. She offered $3,000 instead, with $1,500 paid up front and the remaining amount to be paid

once the hit was complete. April accepted the deal, taking the cash advance and a photo of Ben to give to Nate. However, both April and Nate told investigators that neither of them ever had any intention of going through with the hit. Instead, they used the fifteen hundred dollars to buy presents for April's children and drugs for themselves. Desperate for money, April then returned to Sheryl's house and stole her safe, which contained six and a half thousand dollars. She stuffed it under her clothes and ran into the woods. When Sheryl discovered the safe was missing, she reported the theft to the Pocono Mountain

Regional Police, where her boyfriend, Marty Reynolds, was an officer. Marty responded to the complaint, taking April aside and asking if she knew who was responsible. Marty allegedly told her, responsible. Mahdi allegedly told her, you have one hour to return it and will forget everything. The couple arranged to meet Cheryl in a public parking lot. There they handed over what was left of the cash, just over $3,700. They'd already spent the rest of it on drugs, alcohol, and a down payment for a truck. Cheryl dropped the charges regardless, seemingly spooked by a comment Nate had made when calling to arrange the handover.

He'd apparently told her, Hey, on the guy that you paid to kill Ben Amato. To prove they were telling the truth, Nate handed police a letter that April had sent him while he was behind bars. In it, she broke the news that Ben Amato had been murdered. April wrote that she couldn't believe Cheryl had actually found someone to go through with her plan. Although, according to April, Cheryl had called her shortly after

Ben's death claiming she had nothing to do with it. Cheryl said the timing of his murder was a complete coincidence. Investigators confronted Cheryl Kunkel with the couple's version of events. She adamantly denied their story, saying the truth was that April Steinhauser had been visiting her at home when she asked if she could borrow some money for her children. Cheryl said she left the room to fetch some cash, and when she came back, April had stolen her safe and fled. After reporting the theft to the police and giving both April and Nate Evans names, Cheryl said she had second thoughts. She knew about Nate's criminal reputation and was scared of what he might do. She decided she wanted to press charges against April alone, but law enforcement told her

this wasn't possible. Too nervous to proceed with charging both of them, Cheryl dropped the issue entirely. According to Cheryl, she never told April that she wanted Ben dead, but she had mentioned wanting him out of her life. April allegedly used this knowledge against Cheryl, fabricating the story about a contract killing just in case Cheryl ever decided to pursue the theft charges against her. Investigators weren't sure what to make of all this. With Cheryl's motive, the murder for higher allegation was incredibly compelling, and the accounts provided by April and Nate could certainly be used to build a solid case against her. The problem was, April and tonight weren't exactly credible witnesses.

Furthermore, not a single shred of physical evidence connected Cheryl to Ben's murder itself. If she had indeed found someone else to carry out the hit, there was no proof. Then, Cheryl presented the police with a recording she claimed could prove she was telling the truth. It was a taped conversation between herself and April, in which Cheryl said she'd been questioned by the police about Ben's murder. She told April that the police had mentioned April's name and asked, Police had mentioned April's name and asked, You never said anything to get back at me for what I did to you, for pressing charges.

April responded that given she'd already spent half of the stolen money, she had to come up with something. I was scared, she said. I didn't want to go to jail. I needed to get out of it somehow because I was thinking about my kids. I'm sorry." Police remained strongly suspicious of Cheryl, but the recording essentially debunked the only evidence they had against her. With April admitting on tape that she'd made up the whole murder for hire story, it was back to square one.

The months continued to pass with no breakthroughs in Ben Amato's case. Investigators pursued every line of inquiry, but nothing compelling emerged. By the 18 month mark, they conducted a deep dive into Ben's financial records and assets, desperate to identify a motive for his murder. Those close to Ben described him as a man of limited financial means who survived off social security. His financial records revealed otherwise. According to court records published by the Pocono Record. At the time of Ben's death, he had almost $500,000

in cash and liquid assets spread across multiple savings accounts, trusts, stocks, and bonds. Some of this was shared with his 83-year-old mother, who was partially incapacitated. Records also revealed that the mother and son rented a safe deposit box together. Investigators wondered whether this could hold a clue as to why someone would want the 52-year-old dead. They went to the bank and drilled the safe deposit box open. Nothing of interest was inside. Regardless, they were surprised to find that Ben was so well off and wondered if his murder could have been financially motivated after all.

Ben hadn't left behind an official will, only an unsigned copy. The shared funds automatically went to his ailing mother, but once she passed away they would go to Ben's sole heir, the son he shared with Sheryl Kunkel. And until their son turned 18, the person in control of the money would be Sheryl. Although police still couldn't tire Sheryl to Ben's murder, with no other persons of interest they felt it was time to make a move. In July 2003, one year and eight months after Ben was killed, Cheryl was arrested for her

alleged attempt to hire April Steinhauser and Nate Evans to kill him. She maintained her innocence but was formally charged with the first-degree felony of solicitation to commit murder. A month later, she posted $250,000 bail and was free to go while investigators continued to build their case against her. They remained convinced she'd been involved in Benamato's murder. They just couldn't figure out exactly how. 10 months later, just after 5pm on Tuesday May 4, 2004, 49-year-old Kathleen Fisher arrived home from a day at work. Kathleen lived with her daughter, 17-year-old Kristen, as well as Kristen's 7-month-old

baby, Kaylee. The trio lived in a private housing development in a wooded area of Pike County in northern Pennsylvania. Kathleen opened her garage door and was met by a horrific sight. Her daughter Kristen lay lifeless on the ground, an upturned stool by her side and a noose tied around her neck. Kathleen frantically dialed 911 while still facing a terrifying question. Where was baby Kaylee?

Kathleen raced through the house looking for her granddaughter. She found her in the bathroom, her tiny body floating face down in a bathtub full of water. It was obvious that Kaylee hadn't died due to a tragic accident. Kristen typically bathed Kaylee in the sink, not the bathtub. When she did so, she kept a towel and clean clothing nearby, items which were nowhere to be seen. Yet Kathleen knew that Kristen would never intentionally hurt her own baby. Kristen adored Kaylee. Despite her young age, she was an exceptional and devoted mother, taking

Kaylee everywhere she went and doting on her every step of the way. Police quickly arrived at the scene of the apparent murder suicide. When they examined Kristen's body, they immediately noticed something odd. The rope that she'd apparently used to hang herself had been tied to a rail on the garage ceiling, but it hadn't been tied securely enough to have ever held Kristen's weight. There was also way too much slack on the rope for the news to have been effective. Realisation dawned on them. This wasn't a murder suicide, but a double homicide. Whoever killed Kristen had used the rope to strangle her, then staged the scene to look like she'd killed her daughter before taking her own life.

Kathleen Fisher suspected she knew exactly who was responsible. From the moment Kristen discovered she was pregnant, the baby's father had wanted nothing to do with either of them. He'd urged Kristen to get an abortion, then abandoned her when she'd refused to do so. Since Kaylee's birth, he'd refused to pay child support, a decision that had gone before the courts. Their next hearing was scheduled for the day after the murders. Five days before this, Kristen told a friend that Kaylee's father had left a voice message on her phone, warning, I'm gonna fucking kill you if you don't stop trying to sue me for child support. On the day of the murders, Kristen told her mother that Kaylee's father was coming over. He claimed to have a surprise for them.

Kathleen had called her daughter warning her not to let him in, but by that time, he was already at the house. Kathleen told Kristen to kick him out and lock the doors. Investigators familiar with Ben Amato's murder couldn't help but note the similarities between these two cases. The two crimes had happened only 35 miles apart. Both involved either a custody or child support dispute, and the victims were killed in staged accidents or suicides. But the real watershed moment came when they realised the significance of who Kaylee's father was. 18-year-old Gregory Rowe, Cheryl Kunkel's

eldest son. By the time of the double homicide, two and a half years had passed since Benamardo's murder, and Cheryl Kunkel remained on bail awaiting trial for her solicitation charge. Gregory still lived with her, but the relationship between the mother and son was severely fractured. According to other family members, Cheryl had always been incredibly critical of Gregory. She was mean and domineering, and never hesitated to dump him on a relative whenever she wanted a break. From a young age, Cheryl had told Gregory that his biological father wanted nothing to do with him.

In reality, she'd been so jealous of Gregory's father's new girlfriend that she'd purposely kept the two apart. As Gregory got older, he sought comfort from his paternal aunt, whom he came to view as a mother figure. He also began to establish a relationship with his father, which Cheryl resented. On the day that Kristen and Kaylee Fisher were murdered, a security guard who worked in their housing development had noticed an unfamiliar Honda Civic in the neighborhood and taken note of its license plate. The police ran this number through their system. The car was registered to Gregory Rowe.

Gregory was summoned to the police station, with officers telling him there had been a family emergency. When told that Kristen and Kaylee were dead, he didn't ask a single question about how they had died. He denied being anywhere near their home or having anything to do with their deaths, with one detective describing him as… very cold. Stone cold. Meanwhile, investigators approached Gregory's home. There, they gave Cheryl Conkel strict

instructions to stay away from the garage as a search warrant was about to be issued for her son's vehicle which was parked inside. Cheryl ignored them. She went into Gregory's car and removed several items, a decision that landed her with a charge for tampering with evidence and hindering a police investigation. Being charged with a crime was a direct violation of her bail conditions and she was subsequently remanded in jail. A preliminary search of the house and car didn't turn up any evidence. Police confiscated Gregory's computer in the hopes they might uncover an email linking him to the crime.

They found no such thing. What they did find was child exploitation material, enough to warrant three felony charges against him. Gregory Rowe was jailed for these charges while police continued to hunt for evidence in the Fisher's double homicide. While news spread, many of those close to Gregory were shocked to learn that he was Cayley's father. They never even knew about his relationship with Kristen, let alone that the two had a child together. Cheryl had forbidden Gregory from telling anyone about it. Even his current girlfriend,

Rachel, had no idea. Rachel told police that on the morning of the double homicide, she had accompanied Gregory to a true value hardware store just a few miles from the fishers' home. There, he asked an employee to direct him towards the rope. Rachel asked what he needed it for. Gregory explained he was going to put a clothes line up for his mother. Checks with the store confirmed the sale of the rope, the type of which was then compared to the rope used to strangle Kristen Fisher. It was an exact match. According to Rachel, Gregory had also asked her to do a Google search on how to tie a hangman's noose and print the instructions out for him.

Gregory Rowe was charged with the murders of Kristen and Kaylee Fisher, but continued to maintain that he was innocent. From jail, he wrote his girlfriend Rachel a letter. In it, Gregory claimed that he never wanted Kristen and Kaylee killed. According to him, the person responsible was his mother, Cheryl Cankle. She had asked him to buy her the rope and print some instructions from the Internet showing how to tie a noose. Gregory wrote that after the murders, Cheryl told him, I took care of the business that you should have taken care of yourself. Gregory urged

Rachel to support his story by saying that she'd witnessed these things herself. He warned that if she didn't, Cheryl would kill her too. This is a must, Gregory wrote, or this is the end for me. Gregory instructed Rachel not to show the letter to anyone else and to burn it after reading. Instead, Rachel showed it to the police. She said she'd never heard Cheryl Kunkkel make any mention of Kristen, Kaylee, Rope or Nooses. Investigators didn't believe Gregory Rose claims, but they did recognise his desperation as an opportunity. They approached him in jail, saying they wanted to speak about the murder of Benjamin Amato. Gregory immediately began to cry.

When asked if his mother was involved in any way, Gregory replied, I don't know what you're talking about. The following day, Gregory Rowe was hit with a hard reality. Given that Kaylee Fisher was under the age of 12, being charged for her premeditated murder meant that he would be eligible for the death penalty. When Gregory learned this, he contacted the detectives. He was finally ready to talk. Case file will be back shortly. Thank you for supporting us by listening to this episode's sponsors. Thank you for listening to this episode's ads. sponsors, you support Casefile to continue to deliver quality content. Gregory Rowe had been just 12 years old when his mother Cheryl Conkel began her relationship with Benjamin Amato.

Over those seven months, Gregory grew fond of Ben. He enjoyed spending time with him and came to consider him a father figure. By the time Gregory was 15, he had witnessed the fallout between Ben and Cheryl and the bitter custody battle over his baby brother. Regardless, Gregory's feelings towards Ben never changed, and the two continued to spend time together. At one point, Gregory even considered going to live with him. In early November of 2001, Gregory thought nothing of it when Cheryl asked him to go to a local store to pick up a can of pepper spray. The store didn't sell such products

to miners, but Cheryl had called ahead of time and arranged everything, so there were no issues when Gregory arrived to make the purchase. According to Gregory, a few days later, on November 12, Cheryl asked him to join her for a drive. Gregory thought they were going to visit his grandparents, but Cheryl veered off-course and parked the car near a tree farm about a mile away from Ben Amato's house. She told Gregory to get in the driver's seat. Although he was only 15 and didn't have a license, he did as he was told. Cheryl then directed Gregory to drive to Ben's house on Sundance Road. When they got there, Ben's truck wasn't in the driveway.

Sheryl allegedly told her son to drive back to the tree farm, wait for an hour, and then return to pick her up. Again, Gregory did as he was told. He assumed his mother was going to break into Ben's house and perhaps steal something, but he knew better than to ask any questions. Cheryl had a volatile temper and didn't like to be questioned. Gregory knew that one wrong move could send her into a rage. At the tree farm, he sat in the car listening to the radio for about an hour before driving back to Sundance Road. This time, Ben's truck was in the driveway. Gregory could see Cheryl crouching down in some trees outside. She jumped into Gregory's back seat, panting as though she'd just ran a mile. Gregory thought she seemed excited.

She told him to drive home via the back roads. As they did so, Cheryl began taking off her clothes and throwing them out the window. She had a change of clothes in the back seat, which she put on. She also tossed a child-sized baseball bat out the window. A bat Gregory said he'd seen her pick up from a friend's house a few days earlier. Gregory was worried about what all this meant, but he said nothing. It was only after the police arrived at their house with a search warrant in the days following that he dared to ask his mother what was going on. According to Gregory, Cheryl admitted that she'd waited inside Ben's house until he arrived home. She then jumped out and sprayed him with pepper spray before using the baseball bat to beat him Cheryl admitted that she'd waited inside Ben's house until he arrived home.

She then jumped out and sprayed him with pepper spray before using the baseball bat to beat him to death. This confession left Gregory shocked. He asked Cheryl why she would do such a thing. She apparently told him, because of you. It was your fault. She said she couldn't stand the fact that Gregory kept Ben hanging around. Cheryl warned her son to keep his mouth shut. If anyone found out the truth, she would take him down with her. After all, he was the one who bought the pepper spray and acted as the getaway driver.

He was the one who bought the pepper spray and acted as the getaway driver. Cheryl then drove Gregory to the back roads they'd taken on the day of Ben's murder. She ordered him to find the clothes she tossed outside before abandoning him there with his bicycle. Gregory made no real attempt to find the items before returning home empty-handed. He refused to go out searching for a second time, but a couple of years later in 2003, Sheryl directed him to a field behind her parents' backyard and ordered him to dig. Gregory eventually uncovered a blanket and a garbage bag full of clothes. At Sheryl's request, he burned the items. Gregory Rose Confession was the breakthrough investigators had spent almost two and a half years waiting for. But Gregory himself had just been charged with two counts of murder,

and his version of events raised some serious questions. ounce of murder, and his version of events raised some serious questions. For starters, when police had executed the search warrant at Cheryl Conkel's home just days after Ben's murder, a forensic examination of her car had turned up nothing. If Cheryl had indeed jumped into the car wearing bloody clothes and carrying a bloody baseball bat, surely some blood would have been found inside the vehicle. And if the clothes had since been burned, there was no way to verify their existence. The bloody shoe print that had been left at Benamato's crime scene had since been determined to have come from a timberland brand boot. The initial search of Cheryl's home had turned up several pairs of boots,

but none were Timberlands. With no forensic evidence tying Cheryl to Ben's murder, all investigators had was the word of one accused killer against the other. Not only did Gregory Rowe openly harbour resentment against his mother, he also had something to gain by throwing her under the bus. For starters, if Cheryl was found guilty of killing Ben, it could add weight to Gregory's allegations that it was she who killed his ex-girlfriend Kristen Fisher and their daughter Kaylee. If a rage over one child-related dispute had motivated her to kill one person, what was

to stop her from doing it again? If this didn't work, testifying against Cheryl could also benefit Gregory in that it might lead to a less severe sentence if he was found guilty in the Fisher case. It was possible he was making the entire story up for bargaining power. Another option also had to be considered. Given the similarities between the murders of Benomardo and Kristen and Kaley Fisher, what if the mother and son had worked together on both crimes? Investigators found themselves in a difficult position.

Gregory's alleged confession was highly compelling, but they knew that questionable testimony from one unsavory witness wouldn't be enough to secure a conviction against Sheryl. Then, Gregory wrote a letter that changed everything. For two and a half years, Jerry Toleski had carried the weight of an unwanted secret. Jerry worked with Sheryl's father, Robert Kunkel. In November 2001, days after Benamardo's murder, Sheryl approached Jerry in tears. She said that the police had just executed a search warrant at her house and she was afraid. Afraid because she was the one who killed Ben. According to Jerry, Cheryl said that she'd waited inside Ben's house for him to arrive home. When he reached the top of his stairs, she attacked him with a baseball bat, where he,

quote, went down like a pussy. Cheryl then fled out the side door and onto the deck, injuring her leg in the process. Cheryl told Jerry she needed his help to find the clothes and baseball bat used in the attack, which she'd since discarded around Camp Akeba Road, a wooded area connecting the Chestnut Hill and Jackson Townships. Jerry wasn't entirely sure whether to believe Sheryl's story. He accompanied her out to Camp Akeba Road regardless, and began scouring the side of the road for any sign of the disposed of items. It wasn't long before he came across the baseball bat. A chill ran down Jerry's spine as he realised

that Sheryl was telling the truth. Sheryl told him to pick up the bat and burn it. Realising this would implicate him in the crime, Jerry refused. Sheryl became enraged and started, quote, raving like a lunatic. She reluctantly retrieved the bat herself. Jerry then drove with her to a wooded area nearby, where Sheryl burnt the bat under a pile of leaves. Jerry was terrified. He kept this information to himself until a letter arrived from an incarcerated Gregory Rowe saying he was cooperating with the police in Benamato's murder investigation and that Jerry should stop being afraid of Cheryl and do the same.

Overcome with regret for not coming forward earlier, Jerry finally told investigators what he knew. And according to Jerry, he wasn't the only one who Cheryl had confided in. Back in November 2001, Officer Marty Reynolds was working a night shift when his girlfriend, Cheryl Conkel called him in tears, saying the police had just executed a search warrant at her house in relation to Ben Amato's murder. Marty went to visit Cheryl, only to find her in the dark, crying. I was there, she told him.

Cheryl began pacing nervously, saying, I don't want to die. I can't believe this is happening to me. She pulled her pants down and showed Marty some bruises on her leg. We fought all the way down the stairs, she said. She then changed her tune entirely, saying that the bruises were from a motorcycle accident. her tune entirely, saying that the bruises were from a motorcycle accident. I might as well say I was there, she said. They're trying to make me believe I was. Marty found Sheryl to be incoherent and confusing. Nothing she said made any sense.

He later explained, for lack of a better word, she was cuckoo. She was out there. Marty managed to calm Cheryl down before leaving. While he didn't believe she was involved in Ben's murder, her behavior set him on edge. The truth was, Marty Reynolds was a married man. Nervous that the 10-month affair he'd been having with Cheryl would be exposed, Marty ended the relationship and stopped returning Cheryl's calls. A few weeks later, the two ran into one another in a convenience store parking lot. Cheryl brought up Ben and said, if this didn't happen to him, it would have happened to me. In the years following, Marty refused to believe that Sheryl had anything to do with Ben's

death. But when investigators approached him, he could no longer convince himself of this. After revealing everything he knew, Marty was given two options for withholding this information. Either resign from the police force, or be fired. After almost two decades on the job, he reluctantly turned in his badge. With two independent witnesses corroborating Gregory Rowe's version of events, the decision was made to charge Sheryl Conkel with Ben Amato's first-degree murder.

Given the similarities between the crimes for which she and Gregory were charged, some continued to suspect that the two could have helped each other. Yet, with no evidence to support this, no further charges were laid against either of them. Gregory Rowe faced trial for the murders of Kristen and Kaley Fisher in January 2006. He testified in his own defense, tearfully telling the court, I know it's your opinion I did this, but I honestly tell you I didn't. Please don't take me from my family."

By this point, Gregory was no longer in contact with Cheryl. Gregory's father sobbed as he begged the jury to spare his son from a death sentence, saying, I know my son didn't do this. Please don't take him from me again. I know two innocent lives were lost, but taking his life won't make it right." The prosecution urged the jury not to be moved by Gregory Rowe's sob story, telling them to think of Kaylee Fisher and the bathtub instead. Quote, You think about that last bubble of air passing through her lips and breaking the surface of the water, carrying her soul to heaven.

After six days of testimony, the jury deliberated for five and a half hours before declaring Gregory Rowe guilty on all counts. Gregory doubled over in apparent disbelief. He was spared the death penalty but given life in prison. Outside court, Gregory told reporters, the truth is out there, but they failed to see it. When one of them asked if his mother was the real culprit, Gregory responded, yes. Gregory responded, yes. Cheryl Kunkel's trial for the murder of Ben Amato commenced the following year on Tuesday, February 6, 2007.

She also faced charges for solicitation to commit murder, aggravated assault, burglary, and tampering with evidence. The 38-year-old appeared confident as she entered the courtroom, despite the fact that Jerry Tolesky, Marty Reynolds, and her own son Gregory had all agreed to testify against her. The defense team cast a doubt on Gregory's story. They pointed out that the charges against him for possessing child exploitation material had been dropped without explanation. They urged the jury to consider whether this was due to a lack of evidence, or because Gregory

had struck a deal with the prosecution by agreeing to testify against his mother. According to the defense, Gregory had made the entire story up to evade these charges and avoid the death penalty for his own murder trial. Their main argument was that there still hadn't been a single piece of physical evidence tying Cheryl to the crime. The only foreign DNA found at the scene didn't even belong to a woman. Also testifying against Cheryl Kunkel was her former friend, April Steinhauser.

After all these years, April maintained her story about Cheryl's failed murder for hire plot. As for the recording that Cheryl had given the police, in which April claimed to have made the whole story up to save herself from theft charges, April claimed it had been staged. Everything she'd set on tape had allegedly been scripted by Cheryl. The recording was played to the court. The prosecution pointed out that it did indeed sound stilted and unnatural, as though the two women were reading the conversation from a script. On the stand, Sheryl's father Robert spoke of his fondness for Ben Amato and how hard

things had been for his family. He called Ben a good guy, saying he didn't have a mean bone in his body. On Valentine's Day of 2007, the jury deliberated for just a few hours before delivering its verdict. Guilty on all counts. Cheryl appeared genuinely shocked. She gasped, doubling over with her face in her hands, sobbing no and telling the judge, it's not over, your honor."

Ben's two stepdaughters from his first marriage, Aaron and Peggy, also burst into tears. But theirs were tears of relief. Outside court, Aaron told reporters that while she was extremely happy with the verdict, quote, things won't change for me. I still won't have a dad tomorrow. He'll still be gone because of her. In the lead-up to her sentencing, Cheryl Kunkel claimed she'd been the victim of a police conspiracy. According to Cheryl, the truth was that Ben Amato had accidentally fallen down the stairs and died. The amount of blood spatter found at the scene had been planted there to frame her.

The sentencing judge said of these claims, quote, Anyone who believes that is delusional. Ben's stepdaughters argued that Cheryl should spend the rest of her life in prison, haunted by what she did and surrounded by inmates like herself. Peggy said, For the first time in your life, you will finally see evil face to face. When you look into those many evil eyes, may you finally see what my stepfather saw just before he took his last breath on this earth."

The judge agreed. On Wednesday June 20, 2007, he sentenced Sheryl to life in prison without the possibility of parole, remarking, for a life to be snuffed out with such brutality and a lack of concern is hard to understand. For Ben's stepdaughters, the depth of their loss was felt when they visited Ben's grave one Father's Day. Erin remarked that instead of taking her dad to dinner or having him over for a barbecue, she was kissing a cold pitcher on a headstone. While it was clear to Ben's loved ones that Cheryl didn't want to share her youngest son with Ben, they found it difficult to comprehend what Cheryl hoped to achieve by killing him.

Ultimately, the act had stripped her of both her children. At Cheryl's sentencing, Ben's stepdaughter Peggy had asked her, Was it worth it? Yes, you did get Ben out of your life. That goal you did accomplish. But in turn, you messed up your older son Greg so much that he is currently spending the rest of his life in prison for double homicide, and he says that you aren't even worthy to be called mother. Some believe that Greg wouldn't have committed his own crimes had it not been for his mother's

influence. If there is any truth to this, it means that the trickle-down effect of Cheryl's actions also stripped another mother of her child. At Greg's trial, Kathleen Fish's voice shook as she spoke about her deep love for Kristen, her only daughter. Born on Christmas Day, Kristen was the greatest gift she ever received. Then when Kaylee was born, she stole everyone's heart. Kathleen said, was born, she stole everyone's heart." Kathleen said, Holding Kaylee in my arms was the closest thing to heaven for me.

What keeps me going is the memory of how it felt to hold her. Kristen and Kaylee were beautiful children in both physical and spiritual qualities. I was blessed to have them to love and cherish, even if it was for only a short time." Custody of Ben and Sheryl's son was awarded to Sheryl's family. Ben's stepdaughter, Erin remarked in court, �Maybe Sheryl will realise what she did when she has to explain to her son why his father is not alive anymore. He didn't deserve to die so

horribly. No one deserves that. One quiet summer night in Melbourne 46 years ago, Suzanne Armstrong and Susan Bartlett were brutally stabbed to death in their home in Easy Street, Collingwood, as Suzanne's young toddler, Layon, is caught. Their killer has never been found, and their double homicide remains one of Australia's most chilling coal cases. It would be absolutely fair to say that I'm 75 now. Hardly a day goes by that I don't think about this particular murder. Did they know their killer or was it a random attack? At the time, police weren't sure and warned women in Melbourne to lock their doors and windows.

Yet they failed to interview a number of witnesses living in the street, one right next door to Sue and Suzanne. She told me that she was sitting there at the window because it was a hot night, and she said she saw a bloke leaving out the back gate. Till this day, until I die, I'm convinced there were two killers, not one. Has the investigation focused on the wrong person?

How many men were really there? In the Easy Street murders, we'll talk to forensic and legal experts, as well as Suzanne and Susan's family and friends. She had a good sense of humour and the kids loved her because she made them feel real. She wasn't constrained, I should say, by the norms of the time, which 45 years ago a single mother was regarded very poorly by society. And the retired detective who'll never forget walking into the little house in Easy Street. This guy has done something so bad, so bad that, you know, humanity just would never even forgive him, no matter who the relative was, what he did to those two girls, could never, ever, ever be forgiven by anyone.