Casefile True Crime - Casefile Archives 11: North Hollywood Shootout

Episode Date: May 23, 2026

*** Content Warning: gun violence ***When Larry Phillips Junior and Emil Mătăsăreanu entered the North Hollywood branch of the Bank of America on February 28 1997, no one could have predicted the c...haos that was about to ensue. What followed was 44 minutes of pure mayhem.---Casefile Archives is a series of special bonus releases revisiting the earliest years of the show. The re-run episodes have been completely edited, polished, re-recorded and freshly produced from start to finish to match our current production standards. They are not complete rewrites - our goal wasn’t to alter the cases or reshape the writing, but to preserve the original storytelling while giving the production the refinement it didn’t have when we started the show back in 2016. Where appropriate, updates have been added, but the core structure and storytelling remain faithful to the originals. Because of this, these re-releases may sound a little different to our recent episodes, but they allow us to bring some of the earliest episodes up to the technical quality listeners expect today.---Narration – Anonymous HostResearch & writing – Anonymous Host & Elsha McGill Production & music – Mike MigasAudio editing – Anthony TelferSign up for Casefile Premium:Apple PremiumSpotify PremiumPatreonFor all credits and sources, please visit https://casefilepodcast.com/casefile-archives-11-north-hollywood-shootout Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As Case File continues into its 10th year, we're currently taking a very short break from new episodes. Brand new cases will be returning on May 23 for premium subscribers and May 30 for the regular feed. But in the meantime, we're continuing our special bonus series Case File Archives, a collection of releases revisiting the earliest years of the show, along with previously unreleased premium episodes. Rest assured that these are additional bonus releases and will not replace our standard schedule. We will still be delivering the same number of new episodes this year as we did last year. Case File Archives is simply a way to mark the 10th year, revisit some older episodes and share stories that newer listeners may not have heard before. For the re-release episodes,
Starting point is 00:00:50 we've fully edited, polished, re-recorded and freshly produced them from start to finish, to match our current production standards. They are not complete rewrites. Our aim isn't to reshape the cases or alter the original storytelling, but to preserve them as they were first told while bringing them up to the level of production the show has today. Where appropriate, updates have been added, but the core structure remains faithful to the originals.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Because of this, these episodes may sound a little different to our recent work. Today's re-release is the North Hollywood Shootout, originally aired as Case 18 on May 8, 2016. I still remember sitting on the floor of my childhood lounge room glued to the TV as footage of this shootout played on the evening news. Even in the days before the 24-hour news cycle, social media, and the kind of instant global coverage we see today, it was major news here on the other side of the world, and those images are, still burned into my mind nearly 30 years later. Now, here is Case Aideen from Case File Archives, the North Hollywood Shootout.
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Starting point is 00:03:04 original newspaper articles, detailed analyses, and much more. February 28, 1997 was a regular Friday for Los Angeles police officers Lauren Farrell and Martin Perel, as they made their way down Laurel Canyon Boulevard in North Hollywood. But as they drove their patrol car past the Bank of America branch at the intersection of Laurel Canyon Boulevard and Archwood Street, they noticed something out of the ordinary. Two large figures were entering the bank. Both were dressed in black and wearing ski masks. Most alarmingly, both were carrying automatic rifles.
Starting point is 00:03:47 50-day 40 speed. Questioning assistance, we have a possible 211 in progress at the Bank of America. Bank of America. No kidding in North of Kittrick. We have not fired. 39 soldiers responding code three. All units officer needs help. The Bank of America, Lower Canyon North of Kittridge.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Officer needs help. Bank of America, Lower Canyon North of Kittridge. Before we get to the bank, we go back. to 1967. Larry Phillips Sr. was just one year out of high school when he was sent to jail for what some reports claimed to be grave desecration. He was apparently involved in a drunken prank where he tried to dig up a grave and remove the head of a corpse. Larry Sr. was paroled in January 1968, but just three months later he was sent back to jail for robbing a gas station. He spent three months behind bars before being transferred to a state-run psychiatric facility in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:05:10 The reason for his transfer is unknown, but 10 months later, on April 18, 1969, Larry Sr. escaped. A warrant was immediately issued for his arrest, but in the meantime, he picked up his girlfriend, Dorothy Clay, who reportedly had a criminal record of her own and had also spent time in jail. The couple went on the run, using numerous aliases to successfully avoid detection for the next few years. Very little is known about what happened to them during this time, but at some point, Larry Phillips Sr. and Dorothy Clay made their way to California. And it was at the California Hospital in Los Angeles on September 20, 1970, that Larry Phillips Jr. was born. However, it would be many years until he would be. be known by this name. Given that his parents were still on the run, they used fake names and
Starting point is 00:06:08 addresses when registering Larry Jr's birth, listing him on his birth certificate as Larry Eugene Warfell. By September 22, 1976, Dorothy and Larry Jr. were living in a small town near Denver, Colorado. Although Larry Sr. was no longer living with them, he came over to celebrate Larry Jr.'s sixth birthday. Shortly after he arrived, seven FBI agents stormed through the house and placed him under arrest. It's unknown who tipped them off, but he was sent back to jail to serve the rest of his sentence for the gas station robbery after seven years on the run. No doubt, that was an experience Larry Jr. would not forget. In the years that followed, Larry Phillips Sr. and Dorothy Clay divorced, But during his sporadic visits with his son, Larry Sr. passed on his anti-police and anti-establishment
Starting point is 00:07:08 views. By 1986, Dorothy decided to move to Los Angeles. 16-year-old Larry Jr. went with her, having already quit high school in the ninth grade. He had developed a love of bodybuilding, and as soon as he got to California, he bought a five-year membership to the world-famous Golds Gym at Venice Beach. Like so many before him, Larry Jr. had plans to make it big. He wanted to be the next Arnold Schwarzenegger. Gold's Gym was a two-hour trip from where Larry Jr. was living, but he remained committed. It was only after a few years that he realised he wasn't going to make it as a professional
Starting point is 00:07:51 bodybuilder and he let his gym membership expire. Looking for other avenues to find his fortune, in 1990, Larry Jr. looked to cash in on Los Angeles' booming property market. To receive his real estate license, he had to undergo a background check. He provided a fingerprint, which revealed his first and only arrest in 1989 for shoplifting $400 worth of clothes. With his bodybuilding dreams shattered and his chance at real estate success taken away due to his criminal record, Larry Jr. became down and out. Instead of taking responsibility for his own actions, he blamed everybody else and started to resent society and its rules. Larry Jr. moved back to Denver with his high
Starting point is 00:08:40 school sweetheart turned wife, Sharon, and their two children. Determined to strike it rich, Larry came up with a new plan. In 1992, he contacted local real estate agents pretending to be a prospective buyer. When the agents took him to inspect a house, he watched as they accessed the lockbox which contained the keys to the house, and he memorized the combination. Using a fake name, Larry then placed ads in the local paper claiming to have several rental properties available. He took prospective tenants to inspect the properties, claiming they had just been sold and that the new owners wanted to rent them out as soon as possible. Larry would then accept down payments for rent and security deposits.
Starting point is 00:09:30 The scam didn't last long. Larry Phillips Jr. was soon arrested, but released pending a sentencing hearing in which he faced a possible two years in Denver County Jail whilst also participating in a work release program. In the lead-up to the hearing, Larry walked out on Sharon and their two kids, and they never saw him again. When the day of his sentencing hearing came on March 26, 1993, Larry was nowhere to be seen. A warrant for his arrest was issued immediately, but like his father before him, it appeared that Larry Jr. had gone on the run. Back in 1989, while working out at Gold's
Starting point is 00:10:17 gym in Venice Beach, Larry Phillips Jr. had made a friend. Born on July 19, 19, 19, In 1666, Amil Matasarano was a Romanian immigrant who had moved to the USA at the age of 11. While he was the victim of bullying during his years at Pasadena High School, Amil went on to complete a three-year electronics engineering degree at university. He opened his own computer business in 1988, but it failed to get off the ground. He got married and had a son, but the marriage didn't last either. Emil and Larry Jr. had bonded over their shared interest in bodybuilding. Emile was also passionate about firearms.
Starting point is 00:11:03 After Larry fled from his charges in Colorado, he returned to Los Angeles and talked back up with his buddy. Both fresh off their failed endeavors, they started discussing ways they could make it rich. Or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Larry tried to work out how Emil could help make him him rich. Larry had big dreams of living an extravagant lifestyle. He sometimes drove to affluent neighborhoods and parked outside of houses he liked to picture himself living in. He didn't bring anyone into his inner circle unless he thought he could use them to his advantage. He was the type who tried to break others down just so he could build them back up and then control them. Larry was the manipulator, while Emil was more the follower.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He did whatever Larry wanted. On July 20, 1993, the pair successfully committed their first robbery, ambushing an armoured car outside a branch of First Bank in Littleton, Colorado. The police were unable to identify any suspects, and the pair got away with it. Three months later, on October 29, 1993, Larry and Amel were driving through Glendale, California, when they were pulled over by Sergeant Ian Grimes. Larry was driving and Amel was in the front passenger seat. When questioned, Larry said he had left his license at home and he gave a false name.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Sergeant Grimes then asked whose car it was, to which Amel replied it was Larry's mother's car. Sergeant Grimes had already done a check and he knew the car was actually an airport. rental. He asked Larry to step out of the vehicle and then padded him down, finding a Glock pistol with an extended 33-round magazine. A loud thud then came from inside the car. It was the sound of Amil dropping his own pistol underneath the passenger seat. Sergeant Grimes called for assistance and covered Larry and Amil until backup arrived. A subsequent search of the car uncovered a second. semi-automatic rifle and a Springfield pistol belonging to Larry, as well as a semi-automatic
Starting point is 00:13:25 rifle and a cult pistol belonging to a meal. Police also found 1,149-millimeter ammo, 9-67 rounds of 9mm ammo, 357 rounds of 45m ammo, 6 smoke bombs, 2 improvised explosive devices, one gas mask, two sets of body armour, two police scanners, sunglasses, gloves, wigs, ski masks and a stopwatch, two spray cans of hair colour, three different sets of Californian licence plates and $1,620 in cash. The police were convinced they had just stopped a bank robbery from happening, and given what was to come, they were quite obviously right. Larry Phillips Jr. and Emile Madisaranu were taken to the Glendale Police Station where they were both charged with conspiracy to commit robbery and unlawful weapons activity.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Larry was also charged with Grand Thief Auto, carrying a loaded concealed firearm and felony perjury, while Amel was charged with carrying a loaded firearm in a vehicle. At their preliminary hearing, the Grand Thief Auto and the perjury charges against Llamy was charged. were dropped, but the two men still faced eight years jail on the remaining charges. The problem was, neither Larry nor Emil said a word, and the police had no other information to go on. Despite the arsenal and disguises they were found with, it was difficult to prove they were going to commit a robbery. At their arraignment, Larry and Emile claimed the disguises were for an upcoming Halloween party. As for the weapons and ammo, they said they were headed to a shooting range. In exchange for early guilty pleas, the district attorney dropped the conspiracy to commit robbery charges
Starting point is 00:15:27 and allowed Larry and Amil to plead to much lesser offences. On December 27, 1993, Larry was sentenced to 99 days in jail, while Amil was sentenced to 71 days, and both were given three years probation. Both men were released immediately due to time already served. Larry was still wanted in Denver on the rental property scam, but for unknown reasons, Denver authorities didn't pursue him. Without being extradited back to Colorado to face punishment, he was essentially a free man. Just under a year and a half after Larry Phillips Jr. and Emil Madisarano were released on June 14, 1995,
Starting point is 00:16:17 A 52-year-old security guard named Herman Cook was doing his rounds as an armored car guard for a cash handling company called Brinks. It was Herman's job to drop off and pick up cash for various banks. At around 12.25pm, he had just made a drop-off at the Bank of America branch on Roscoe Boulevard in the quiet Los Angeles neighborhood of Wernetka. Herman was walking back to the armored car with an empty money bag when gunshot. suddenly rang out. Larry Phillips Jr. and Emil Matasuranu were firing high-powered rifles from behind a wall in an adjacent parking lot. Herman was shot multiple times. He staggered to the front of the car
Starting point is 00:17:02 and collapsed. Herman's partner Felipe Cortez was in the armored car at the time. Emile opened fire on the vehicle while Larry made the approach. Felipe managed to take out his own fire arm and shoot one of the offenders, but they only staggered, indicating they were wearing body armour. Larry reached into the car and grabbed a bag of money. The two men then escaped, making off with around $122,000. Felipe was shot in the attack, but survived. Herman wasn't so lucky. He died from the gunshot wounds. After that, Larry and Emile decided to change tactics. Ten and a half months later, at 10 a.m. on May 2, 1996, they burst through the doors of the Bank of America branch on Woodman Avenue in the Los Angeles neighborhood of Van Nuys. Both armed with automatic rifles, they yelled at
Starting point is 00:18:08 everyone in the bank to get on the fucking floor. Emile then started shooting through the armored teller door. Due to the type of weapon and calibre of bullet, the door opened easily. A mill forced the manager to open the vault and then started filling up a large bag with cash. Larry remained in the main area of the bank, keeping an eye on the customers and other staff members. In just six minutes, they managed to get away with $755,000. Twenty-nine days later, at ten-one days later, at 10 a.m. on May 31, 1996, Larry and Emil burst through the doors of the Bank of America on Roscoe Boulevard in Wanecka. It was the same branch they had targeted almost a year earlier when killing Brink's security guard, Herman Cook. Again, the two men yelled at everybody to get down. Amel shot his way through the teller
Starting point is 00:19:13 door, striking two bank employees with ricochets in the process. Amil grabbed the manager, forced her to open the vault, and screamed at her to fill up his bag. When he saw how much money was in the vault, he became agitated. Where's the rest of it? he screamed, before threatening to kill the manager. Amil was expecting a much larger amount. He and Larry had done surveillance on the bank and saw what they thought to be a cash delivery from an armoured car. but what they had actually seen was a cash pickup. Despite being disappointed in the hall, they still managed to escape with over $794,000,
Starting point is 00:19:59 though there were several marked bills amongst it. The two employees who were struck by ricochets survived. Emile and Delary got lucky that day. One of the tellers had managed to hit the silent alarm before diving under the floor, But the police were thin on the ground, and it took them much longer than usual to respond to the alarm. Larry and Emile had been in the bank for close to eight minutes. On a typical day, the police would have been able to respond within this time frame, and it was likely they would have been caught.
Starting point is 00:20:37 The police had no suspects for the robberies at the time, but they did give the unknown criminals a title, The High Incident Bandits. It would be nine months before they struck again. Branch 384 of the Bank of America is located at 6,600 Laurel Canyon Boulevard in North Hollywood. Larry and Emile had studied the bank closely. They learned its layout, observed Armacar drop-offs and pickups, and carefully formulated a plan. At around 915 on the morning of Friday, February 28, 1997,
Starting point is 00:21:19 Emil drove a white 1987 Chevrolet Celebrity Sedan with blackened out windows into the northern parking lot of the bank via Archwood Street. The pair weren't mucking around. To protect himself, Larry wore a Kevlar body armour vest, a groin protector, and makeshift armor for his shins, thighs and forearms that he'd crafted out of additional vests. All up, the body armor weighed around 43 pounds, or, 20 kilos. Larry also wore a load-bearing vest that contained ammunition pouches as well as a belt that contained several canteen pouches filled with ammunition drums for the automatic rifles. He also carried a pistol in a shoulder holster. Over his armour, Larry was dressed in long black pants, a long-sleeved shirt and black jacket. He wore black gloves with a watch face
Starting point is 00:22:17 glued to the back of the left one. Emil was similarly dressed, right down to the glued-on watch face on the back of his glove. However, he wasn't wearing quite as much body armour as Larry, with his legs and arms unprotected. Given their shared interest in bodybuilding, both men were largely built. As if they didn't already look intimidating enough, they topped things off by wearing black ski masks. Between the pair, they had three AK-47-style fully automatic assault rifles with 100-round ammo drums, as well as two other assault rifles which had been illegally modified to fire fully automatic. Two 9mm handguns, a 38-caliber revolver, close to 3,000 rounds of ammo, including armour-piercing rounds.
Starting point is 00:23:13 These were weapons that were designed for war. By listening to police radios, Larry and Emile had learned that the average response time for police was eight minutes. At 9.17am, they set their watches for eight minutes and made their move. Case File will be back shortly. Thank you for supporting us by listening to this episode's sponsors. Thank you for listening to this episode's ads. By supporting our sponsors, you support CaseFile to continue to continue to. to deliver quality content.
Starting point is 00:24:02 The northern doorway to the bank was about 32 feet from where the men had parked. They each grabbed an AK-47 and a handgun, leaving the other assault rifles in the Chevrolet, along with the police radio, and ran for the door. At that very moment, a Los Angeles Police Department patrol vehicle occupied by officers Lauren Farrell and Martin Perel
Starting point is 00:24:25 was driving down Laurel Canyon Boulevard on a routine patrol. By pure luck, the officers were in the right place at the right time, or the wrong place at the wrong time, depending on which way you look at it. After seeing Larry and Emile, the officers swung the police car into the southern parking lot of the Bank of America and took up positions behind their patrol car. Officer Farrell then made the first broadcast. Okay, I showed responding code three. All units, officer needs help. At the Bank of America, Lower Canyon North of Kittridge, Officer needs help, Bank of America, Lower Canyon, North of Kittridge.
Starting point is 00:25:18 At the northern entrance of the bank was a foyer containing three ATMs. A customer was using one of the ATMs when he felt somebody approach him from behind. Turning around, he got quite the shock when he saw Larry and Emil. Larry ordered, Okay, motherfucker, let's go. Not about to argue, the customer did as he was told and walked into the bank with the two men. Upon their entrance, Amil started firing his rifle into the roof,
Starting point is 00:25:51 yelling, Everyone down. This is a fucking hold up, Larry declared. Everyone down, motherfuckers. There were about 30 customers in the bank at the time, including five of whom were in the safety deposit box room. Everybody complied, although one of the tellers was able to hit the hold-up alarm
Starting point is 00:26:13 before diving to the floor. You're so strong, so big for even the bank. And how it's the bank. The suspects are inside of the bank is a tool of an in progress inside the Bank of America. Lower Correction, lower canyon north of Kittred, the specifics are inside of the bank.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Like in the previous bank robberies, Amel approached the teller door and shot his way through it. The door was bullet resistant and designed to stop any pistol round, but it was no match for Emil's high-powered automatic assault rifle. Once he got through the door, Amil yelled, Get the money or we will kill you. Joe Villagranor, the branch's assistant manager, got up and made himself known. Amel aimed the rifle at him and told him to open the vault.
Starting point is 00:27:06 As they made their way there, Amil struck Joe in the back of the head with the rifle. When they passed the safety deposit box room, Amil shot more rounds into the roof and screamed at the people inside to get out. Larry remained in the lobby, keeping control of the customers and other employees. Meanwhile, Officer Farrell kept the radio transmissions coming, telling the other police where he wanted everyone set up. I want to get it on the north side, I want a unit on the south side, and I want a unit on the path, if possible. 15839 is responding code 3 to rural canyon north of Pitcheridge.
Starting point is 00:27:47 1583 wants the unit on the north side, on the south side, and on the rear. 3.3, we will come in the position themselves safely to lock the front door. We don't think the suspect's door here. 15840 is requesting a unit to safely position themselves in front of the front door. The suspects possibly do not know the CD is there. The next officers to arrive on scene were detectives Tracy Angeles and William Krulak. At 9.19 a.m., they pulled into a parking lot opposite the bank's entrance on the western side. Sergeant Larry Haynes was next on scene.
Starting point is 00:28:26 He blocked off the intersection of Laurel Canyon Boulevard and Archwood Street, which was north of the bank. This gave him a view of the door that Larry and Emil had entered through. To the best of their knowledge, the offenders had no idea they were outside at this time. There were a few civilian witnesses hanging outside the bank, and they each approached Sergeant Haynes to report what they'd witnessed. L40, the advice, I've got two witnesses over here and say there's possibly two and three suspects in size, possible AK-47s or one ski masks and dark clothing. Fifty now 40 advisors, there are two correction witnesses at the location,
Starting point is 00:29:04 advises two to three. Suspects are the bank wearing ski masks and AK-47. Less than 30 seconds later, seemingly now realizing that the police were there, Larry exited the bank through the northern lobby. Sergeant Haynes released another broadcast. I think somebody just came out of the front door to bank of America. You know, advisor's unknown person has exited the bank. Outside, Larry casually looked around and surveyed the scene.
Starting point is 00:29:37 He didn't look concerned at all. From his position, it's likely he would have only been able to see Sergeant Haynes patrol car, so it might not have looked that bad. After having a look around, Larry turned around and calmly walked back inside the bank. Shortly after this, Officer Martin Whitfield arrived and parked next to Sergeant Haynes. Meanwhile, Amel had gained entry to the vault, but progress was slow due to the cash being stored in several separate locked boxes. This was specifically designed to slow down bank robberies and it was working. Amil forced the assistant manager Joe Villagranor to open the boxes and fill
Starting point is 00:30:24 his bag with the cash. In the lobby, Larry walked over to a security guard who was lying face down on the floor. Larry put his foot on the guard's neck, pointed his rifle at him and said, If you move, motherfucker, I will kill you. When I tell you, I want you to move all of these people to the vault. The security guard nodded. Larry then walked off, shooting his rifle into the roof while screaming, nobody look at me or I will kill you. Back inside the vault, Amil was becoming furious. There was nowhere near the amount of money he'd anticipated. Unbeknownst to him, due to the large number of recent robberies, including the two at Van Nuys and Wennekeh that Larry and Emile had committed, the Bank of America had changed its delivery
Starting point is 00:31:19 schedule. Much to Amil's outrage, the North Hollywood branch still hadn't received their cash delivery that morning. Amil started firing his weapon. in frustration. Due to the large amount of gunfire being let off and the fact there were hostages inside the bank, specialist police were needed. The call was put in for SWAT to attend. Elphorne. Four shots are being fired from inside the bank. 15-040 more shots are being fired from the suspects at Laurel Canyon north of Kitchard at the Bank of America. The city, L-C-HCAN. I requested SWAT, requesting the location, requesting the T-T&A for SWAT. By this point, police had the bank surrounded.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Officers Haynes and Whitfield were still at the intersection of Laurel Canyon Boulevard and Archwood Street, giving them a good view of the northern doorway. Officer Brentlinger was east of their position, covering the northeastern side of the bank. First officers on the scene, Farrell and Perelo, were still in position in the southern parking lot. Detective Krulak and Angelas had been joined by officers of Boravann and Opherson. officer Guy in the parking lot opposite the bank on the western side, and there were still plenty more police officers on the way. Back inside the vault, Joe had placed $303,305 dollars inside Amil's bag, but amongst all that cash were three diapacks. A mill walked out of the
Starting point is 00:32:56 vault towards the teller door. Larry yelled at a bank employee, to open the door, open the fucking door. She complied. Larry then yelled at the security guard demanding, move these people to the vault now. The customers and employees made their way inside the vault. The time was 9.24 a.m., Larry Phillips Jr. and Emil Matasuranu had been inside the bank for over seven minutes.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Larry burst through the northern door of the bank, looking straight up towards the intersection of Archwood Street and Laurel Canyon Boulevard, where Haynes and Whitfield were positioned. Without a second of hesitation, Larry opened fire. First, he aimed for Officer Haynes' patrol car. Three civilian witnesses were still there and immediately dove for cover. Officer Whitfield was behind his patrol car next to Haynes, Larry took aim and unleashed on him as well. The bullets ripped through the car with ease, wounding Whitfield in the process.
Starting point is 00:34:11 The channel 10th, what has been notified? Everybody stand on the rapid automatic fire. The pan in the area was fired. 40, just a hospital. Just fired. Only automatic weapons for fire. All the air. The hospital is requesting help.
Starting point is 00:34:24 The channel 40 is a location. I'll get the thing. All units 9-9-9-9-9-9-vited. This is large shot fired 500 block of lower canyon. Okay, got about a hill. Out of the United, officers requesting help Lower Canyon, North of Kittridge at the Bank of America. Shots are being fired.
Starting point is 00:34:41 All units officer requested help at the bank. All right. Stay down. They're suspect for shooting AK-47. Stay down. The United States of America, stay down. The squad is being fired. Automatic fired.
Starting point is 00:34:53 SWOT is being notified. Code 3, all officers stay down. Shots are being fired from AK-47. There is an officer. As Larry was firing north, County and get your office to be down. Officer Lee, South Laura Camden and Kid me, Officer, Officer,
Starting point is 00:35:11 as Larry was firing north, he effectively had his back turned to other officers who were positioned to the Southwest, taking cover behind a locksmith's kiosk. Officer Zaboravan was among them, and he saw an opportunity. Zaboravan stepped out and fired two shots from his pump-action shotgun.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Some of the Pelopovan was among him. Some of the pellets struck Larry in the back. One even found a gap in his body armour and struck him directly. The hit caused Larry to stumble, but he didn't fall. He turned around to face Sir Boravan, who had resumed his position behind the cover of the locksmith chaos. Larry opened fire on the chaos, shooting over 100 rounds into the building. The cover was flimsy and bullets penetrated the wall. easily and ricocheted all over the place. The officers hit the ground. Officers Zaboravan and
Starting point is 00:36:12 Gaya had body armor on, but Detective's Krulak and Angelus did not. Realizing this, Zaboravan placed his body over the top of Detective Angela's. A few seconds later, he was struck twice and started bleeding heavily. Any unit know how many officers are down? We have one. More than on. There's more than one officer down, so what to be notified to airlift.
Starting point is 00:36:43 6.990, Roger. Go to report it. I've been hit. 6.0.40 of I see half been hit. There's another officer. They're being declared. It's now 40 and one of the officer has been hit. We are declaring attack alert.
Starting point is 00:36:57 RA is in route. Swat is being notified to airlift. After unloading on the locksmith chaos, Larry turned back to the north, towards officers Whitfield and Haynes and the three civilian witnesses. Haynes was broadcasting on the police radio when Larry opened fire again, striking Haynes in the upper left arm. The patrol car was being quickly destroyed by bullets and offering minimal protection. Civilian Tracy Fisher could see her cover dwindling away. Panicking, she decided to run, but as she tried to get away,
Starting point is 00:37:32 she was shot in the foot. Tracy dropped back down behind the patrol car. Another civilian Michael Horan had also been struck. Together with Officer Haynes, this left three wounded people behind the patrol car. Back behind the locksmith kiosk, Detective Krulak asked Officer Zaboravan if he was able to run. Despite being shot, Zaboravan said he could.
Starting point is 00:38:04 The two tried to get to safety, using vehicles in the parking lot as cover, but Larry spotted them and unleashed more bullets. Both men were hit with glass and other fragments as Larry's bullets damaged the surrounding cars. Detective Krulak was also shot in the right ankle. The pair spotted a dentist surgery nearby and made a run for it while Larry continued peppering them with bullets. When they got to the dentist's door, they didn't have time to stop and over. it. Instead, they just dove right through the glass. Using the cars in the parking
Starting point is 00:38:43 ladder, Detective Angelus and Officer Guy tried to escape as well. Larry turned his attention to them and sprayed them with bullets. By this point, Larry had been firing at the police for around three minutes. During that time, he had fired approximately 300 rounds and wounded several officers and civilians. At 9.27 a.m., Larry walked back inside the bank. The police struggled to explain the onslaught. One officer put it best when he said, I was in the wrong place with the wrong gun. The bullets the police were using were incapable of penetrating Larry's body armor, and given that most of his body was protected, the police basically had no chance.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Larry, on the other hand, had an automatic assault rifle with armour-piercing rounds that were going through cars and walls with ease. It wasn't a fair fight. From inside the dentist office, Officer Zoboravan called out for help. The dentist on site, Dr. Jorge Montez, tended to him right away,
Starting point is 00:40:00 but he really needed a hospital. Outside, more and more often. officers arrived at the scene and took positions around the perimeter. At 9.30 a.m., Larry walked back outside. This time, a meal was with him. They both carried the bag of money through the door and stood in the entranceway, which gave them a level of protection. They then opened fire, aiming towards the position where Officer Guy and Detective Angelus were taking cover.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Upstairs in the dentist office, Zuborovam was looking out and could see what was going on. He yelled into the police radio. Officer Guy, get the building, Officer Guy, getting the building behind you. Zaboravam was trying to direct his colleague to safety, but Officer Guy was pinned down by the heavy fire. The bullets ripped through the car he was taking cover behind and he was struck in the right thigh. Officer Guy took his gun. belt off and used it as a tourniquet which would ultimately save his life. Detective Angeles was also wounded. The police were basically helpless at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Most of the original responders had been wounded and the SWAT team still hadn't arrived. They had actually been on a training exercise at the police academy when the call came through. Larry and Emile continued to fire at anything that moved. Despite being completely surrounded, they calmly left the entrance of the bank and walked out into the open. Wounded officers Haynes and Whitfield were still behind their patrol cars with the three civilians when they realised that Larry and Emile were moving towards them. The officers made a decision to try and protect the civilians by drawing the fire away from them. Officers Haynes and Whitfield got up and ran so that the shooters would tell them.
Starting point is 00:42:03 target them instead. Haynes managed to reach a nearby tree line and took cover, but he was wounded again, this time in the left shin. Whitfield also tried to take cover behind a nearby tree, but not before being shot through the thigh. The bullet shattered his femur, putting him in really bad shape, but he managed to crawl his way behind the tree. Not satisfied with badly wounding him, Larry and Emile continued to fire. Officers were going down everywhere. Case File will be back shortly. Thank you for supporting us by listening to this episode's sponsors.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Thank you for listening to this episode's ads. By supporting our sponsors, you support CaseFile to continue to deliver quality content. I need an R&U. Please help. In front of buildings before in parking lot. Okay. Officers requesting help in the building and pouring parking lot. They're possibly off the off-o-end motor officer down at Victory and Archwood.
Starting point is 00:43:23 All you to check for an open night. Rick, Chair, get back. Ennis, I just requested help. What is your location in the builder's parking lot? Affirient, a affiliate south of Hughes in the parking lot and in the building. Multiple officers hit. Multiple officers hit in the building south of South of Hughes Market. Multiple officers hit.
Starting point is 00:43:50 They're sending in a tank for the officers. On the north side of the bank. On the north side of the bank. Oh, you know, this is a citywide tack alert. We are now on tack alert due to that unusual occurrence in North Hollywood Division. A citywide tack alert at this time and held for their notice. Media helicopters had started to arrive and were capturing the first pictures of this madness that would soon be broadcast around the world.
Starting point is 00:44:18 A police helicopter also circled above, giving updates on what they could see from the air. Larry carried the bag of money to their Chevrolet while a mill covered him by continuing to shoot. By this point, the diapacks had exploded inside the bag, but a lot of the money remained untainted. Larry dropped the bag next to the car and grabbed some more ammunition with the meal close behind. They're going to north, they're going to the front, out north. The suspect are exiting through the north front. They have...
Starting point is 00:44:54 Suspects on the north side of the building. They're walking around like nothing. They've got 1847, stumbles, they're just an all black, heavy body armor. The suspect are exiting the bank on the north side of the building, armed with AK 47 wearing heavy body armor. Yes. All right. These guys are firing at the officers. The old officer is stand back.
Starting point is 00:45:17 These guys are firing at all officers. All officers. If I heard of the air unit, the suspect are firing at all officers. Stay down per the air unit. As Amil made his way to the car, a bullet grazed him above the right eye. The wound was only a few millimeters away from killing him. Amil dropped to one knee behind the Chevrolet while he assessed the damage.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He also had a gunshot wound to the calf. Once he realised he was okay, Amil jumped into their vehicle. Larry didn't seem too interested in getting in. He was still shooting at anything and everything. Many more officers had arrived on the scene, and they were shooting at the offenders from multiple positions. Larry was shot at least three times in this exchange, but the body armor continued to protect him. These guys are getting ready to get it. One suspect is in the white vehicle? One suspect is in a white vehicle.
Starting point is 00:46:18 The white vehicle, that's the white vehicle that's on the west side of the bank. One suspect is still firing at the officers to the rear location. All officer stayed down. One suspect is still firing and officers in the rear of the bank. One suspect has entered a white vehicle on the west side of the bank. While waiting for the SWAT team to arrive, the North Hollywood Watch Commander put a call out for any available officers to go to a B&B gun store and get some bigger guns that would have the ability to get through Larry and Emile's body armor. There's nothing new that can stop them.
Starting point is 00:46:58 They're going to B&B and pick up some weapons. They're requesting someone to go to BAD and pick a weapon. To be out there. Do you have anybody available to go to B&B guns? Hang on. Slot unit, come in. The gun is going to be a B&B guns. Fricterweight is going.
Starting point is 00:47:16 15, Crash, 41 is going to get guns. A detective unit and a crash unit responded to the call. The store was closed when they arrived, but they managed to get staff to open up. The shop owner instructed his staff to give the LAPD whatever they wanted. As police reinforcements continued, Larry was taking more and more fire. He made his way back to the Chevrolet and swapped weapons. The suspect is retrieving additional weapons from the truck of his vehicle. The suspect is retrieving additional weapons from the vehicle and shots are being fired.
Starting point is 00:47:56 The suspect is walking all these under the base. come after him. He's got additional weapons. He's trying to open on his vehicle. Why Larry didn't get into the car to start the getaway at this point, nobody knows. Instead, he took a knee in front of the Chevrolet, aimed upward, and started firing at the media helicopters. Larry was shot again, but the body armor was still holding up. He continued firing non-stop. A meal opened the passenger door, beckoning for Larry. to get in, but Larry slammed the door shut. He was intent to stay outside the vehicle and provide covering fire. He's down on 10 and somebody has a shot, take it. Suspects had. One suspect is walking east
Starting point is 00:48:45 of the bank, 15-0-10 advisor. If someone has a shot, take it. This guy is not going down. He's got heavy body armor. Going for the head. The suspect has heavy body armor to officer are firing at him and he's not going Despite taking multiple hits, Larry wasn't going down. The body armor was too effective. That left only one place for the police to aim. The call was put out to aim for the head. Officer Whitfield had been keeping radio contact, but it was starting to get touch and go. We have an off-down victory west of Lowell Canyon.
Starting point is 00:49:24 He needs help. Call 3. He is passing out. The 17th freeway at Victory, the author needs help immediately. Two officers who took action in response to the officer down calls were Anthony Kubunick and Todd Schmitz. While responding to Officer Whitfield's call, they instead came across Detective Angelus and Officer Guy, both wounded and still taking cover in the parking lot opposite the bank. Officer Kubunik grabbed Officer Guy and pulled him into their car,
Starting point is 00:49:59 while Detective Angelus was able to get in herself. Officer Schmitz then reversed harshly out of the parking lot to get medical help. The SWAT team had arrived by this point and immediately got to work rescuing the other injured officers and civilians. They got hold of an armored car to assist in the rescue. The original advice units on the perimeter that would the officer have rescued. Fire Department has set up command of the fire station, 89. and bringing in a helicopter take about. Bring the officer when he's rescued to fire station 89.
Starting point is 00:50:35 They have units standing by. The old officer has been registered down of Archwood and Lowell Canyon. He appears to be unconscious. He is down on the west side of the street. All you, the officer that's down at Lowell Canyon, Archwood is unconscious. Shots are being fired still. The officer is down at Archwood and Lowell Canyon.
Starting point is 00:51:01 It is about 30 yards north. Of Archwood on Lowell Canyon, he's driving about... 30 yards north of Archwood on Lowell Canyon. The officer is down unconscious. The officer that is behind the tree and all he's got covered. The officer that down has gotten covered behind the tree. The R is being notified. We're trying to get someone in for him.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Get the officer... ...aher own car coming in with all present. Stand by. Everybody stand by. There's an armored car coming in full of police officers. The officer is moving. Suspecting people is moving. Amel put the Chevrolet in motion, deciding it was time to attempt to leave.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Slowly, Amel drove out of the parking lot, with Larry walking alongside the vehicle and firing non-stop. Amel turned right onto Archwood Street and headed east, while Larry was hit twice more. He sought refuge behind a large truck. with a long trailer that was parked on the side of the road. A meal completely lost sight of Larry and continued driving east. We've got one suspect driving the white vehicle, east down from the north parking lot. We've got one suspect on foot. The suspect on foot is behind a long truck trailer rig.
Starting point is 00:52:22 50 out here, I'd buy you to the SWAT, moving out and moving in. SWAT is moving in. There's one suspect, east fell from the north side of the parking lot in the vehicle, the other one is on foot near the long trailer, plotted the route to 6,600 Lowell Canyon across from Dale tackle for the officer down. The suspect are moving eastbound near Archwood. The suspect are moving eastbound near archwood. Officer Torres had a clear shot of the Chevrolet and fired 12 bullets into it, prompting a meal to drive off, leaving Larry behind. One of Larry's gunshot wounds was bad enough that it
Starting point is 00:52:57 would turn fatal if he didn't get help soon. To add to his problems, Larry's rifle had also jammed. He pulled out his Beretta pistol and started walking east. At the suspect walking, walking at, toward one street east of Lowell Canyon. The subject is walking towards one street east of Lowell Canyon from Archwood. Way up ahead, Larry could see Amel in the Chevrolet, but Amil wasn't waiting. He had his own problems being pursued by other officers. At least seven officers stood in the path between Larry and the Chevrolet. He continued firing at the police with his barata, but he was shot yet again.
Starting point is 00:53:43 By this point, he had suffered 11 gunshot wounds. The latest one struck him in the hand, causing him to drop the pistol. He picked it up off the ground, put it under his chin, and shot himself in the head. He died instantly. Larry Phillips Jr. was 26 years old. Meanwhile, up the road, Amil was still under fire himself, being closely followed by police on the ground and helicopters in the air. The Chevrolet was leaking fuel and its tyres were flat. Realising it wouldn't be drivable for much longer, Amil needed to swap cars. He was still driving east on Archwood Street when a red Ford sedan drove towards him.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Seeing the shot-up vehicle with Amel behind the wheel, the red Ford started to reverse. A meal got out of his car and motioned for the red Ford to come back. It didn't, so Amel started firing at it. He advised the suspect in the white vehicle is at Lemp. He's out of the vehicle, he's shooting at civilians. The suspect is out of the vehicle at Lemp shooting at civilians. All of this was being caught on camera. times were getting desperate for a meal and a getaway was looking close to impossible.
Starting point is 00:55:12 He got back into the Chevrolet and just sat there doing nothing. He did nothing for over 10 seconds before putting the Chevrolet into drive and continuing east along Archwood Street. He is now moving slowly east down between. Amel then found another target, a normal. 1962 Jeep Gladiator being driven by a man named Bill Ma. Amil started firing through the windscreen of his vehicle into Bill's Jeep. This was enough for Bill to stop the Jeep and get out and run. Amil pulled up next to the Jeep. He got out of the Chevrolet, dumped all of his weapons and ammo into the Jeep, and then jumped behind the wheel and attempted to drive off. But he couldn't
Starting point is 00:56:04 get it started. A police car. A police vehicle, it just took a citizen vehicle, it looks like a brown truck. It's going facing on the westbound right now in Archwood. The subject took a citizen vehicle in a brown truck, westbound on Archwood, went down Archwood in a Bronwyn truck. A police car containing three SWAT officers, Don Anderson, Steve Gomez, and Richard Massa, sped east down Archwood Street. A meal sat in the Jeep facing west, meaning the officers were approaching head on. Officer Anderson was driving. In an incredibly brave move, he drove straight at Amil, pulling the car up at an angle directly in front of the Jeep. When Amil saw the SWAT team pull up, he jumped out of the Jeep and took cover behind the Chevrolet. This put a distance of
Starting point is 00:56:55 about 30 feet and three cars between him and the SWAT officers. A fierce gun battle ensued. They're fired, shots at there fire. Once shot after being fired, shots are being fired. Shots being fired, final way call. All units watch for crossfire. All units watch for crossfire. On our trip between Rapper and Hyne, Metro is engaging in the suspect. All units stay back.
Starting point is 00:57:23 On archwood between Rafford and Hines, air unit advice all officer stay back. Watch for crossfire. Emile was struck several times, but his body armor saved him yet again. The SWAT team quickly realized that if they fired underneath the vehicles, they would be able to hit Amel in the legs, which weren't protected by armour. Their plan worked. Amil was shot multiple times in the legs, with one bullet actually shattering his leg. Still, he refused to give up and continued firing.
Starting point is 00:57:56 But it was clear that SWAT were winning the battle. Emil was hit several more times, and eventually he collapsed to the ground, dropping his weapon in the process. The SWAT team pounced on him. The entire exchange had lasted just under two minutes. The officer in custody. One suspect on Iwood is in custody. The suspect in custody. The suspect of IUD is in custody.
Starting point is 00:58:29 The time was 10.01 a.m. The North Hollywood shootout was over. But the scene was obviously still chaotic. Injured officers and civilians were everywhere, and the LAPD still wasn't entirely sure if all the gunmen had been caught, or if there were others still on the loose. They started checking the scene and the surrounding area for more shooters, a job that was would ultimately take them 12 hours to officially clear. All up, Amil had been shot 29 times, but he was still breathing. Two detectives stood guard over him while other police cleared the area. But after 65 minutes, with an ambulance unable to get to him in time,
Starting point is 00:59:23 Amil Matasaranu died at the scene. He was 30 years old. Later that same year, Amil's fairer. filed a civil suit against the LAPD and specifically the two detectives who guarded him as he lay dying. The court case alleged that paramedics had been making their way to attend to Amil but had been turned away by police. It also alleged that an officer had cancelled the call for more paramedics and that ultimately the police had deliberately let Emil die. In their defence, the LAPD explained that. that it was standard procedure not to allow any paramedics into what they called a hot zone as it put
Starting point is 01:00:08 their lives in danger. Given that they believed there were more active shooters in the area at the time, the LAPD said they couldn't allow paramedics to attend to Amil for their own safety. The jury couldn't reach a verdict and the case resulted in a hung jury. After that, Emil's family ended up dropping the civil suit. During the the North Hollywood shootout, over 300 police officers had responded to the citywide tactical alert and 32 officers had fired their weapons. All up, Larry and Emile had fired about 1,100 rounds between them, while the police had fired around 650. 17 officers were awarded the Medal of Honor for their actions and bravery. A total of 11 police and 7 civilians were injured.
Starting point is 01:01:04 during the shootout, but by some miracle, they all survived. The only people who lost their lives were Larry Phillips Jr. and Emil Matasarano. Now, if you're by then you use we have here, un-unusible, the black and white are all blown up. All the black and white at the location are unusable. They have shots fired.

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