Casefile True Crime - Casefile Archives 4: Mirna Salihin

Episode Date: January 31, 2026

When school friends Jessica Wongso and Mirna Salihin caught up for coffee in Jakarta’s upscale Olivier Cafe in January 2016, it was supposed to be a friendly get together. Then, moments after taking... a sip from her Vietnamese iced coffee, Mirna collapsed and died. What unravelled was one of Indonesia’s most controversial murder trials with the question on everyone's lips - did Jessica Wongso poison Mirna with cyanide?---Casefile Archives is a series of special bonus releases revisiting the earliest years of the show. The re-run episodes have been completely edited, polished, re-recorded and freshly produced from start to finish to match our current production standards. They are not complete rewrites - our goal wasn’t to alter the cases or reshape the writing, but to preserve the original storytelling while giving the production the refinement it didn’t have when we started the show back in 2016. Where appropriate, updates have been added, but the core structure and storytelling remain faithful to the originals. Because of this, these re-releases may sound a little different to our recent episodes, but they allow us to bring some of the earliest episodes up to the technical quality listeners expect today.---Narration – Anonymous HostResearch & writing – Elsha McGillProduction & music – Mike MigasAudio editing – Anthony TelferSign up for Casefile Premium:Apple PremiumSpotify PremiumPatreonFor all credits and sources, please visit https://casefilepodcast.com/casefile-archives-4-mirna-salihin Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's episode was originally a premium-only release, meaning it was only available for our paying subscribers. Given that we never intended to keep premium episodes behind a permanent paywall, these remaining episodes are now being released to all listeners as part of our Case File Archives series to mark our 10-year anniversary. If you're interested in supporting the show, you can still find our subscriber channels on Patreon, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. However, please note that moving forward we will no longer be producing premium-only episodes. Paid subscribers will continue to receive new case file episodes one week early and ad-free,
Starting point is 00:00:42 as well as episodes of Behind the Files, where the case file team answers your questions and discusses the recent cases we have covered. As always, I'd like to offer a huge and heartfelt thank you to everyone who has listened and supported the show over the years. especially our Patreon and premium subscribers. We appreciate each and every one of you. Our episodes deal with serious and often distressing incidents. If you feel at any time you need support,
Starting point is 00:01:27 please contact your local crisis centre. For suggested phone numbers for confidential support and for a more detailed list of content warnings, please see the show notes for this episode on your app or on our website. It was nearing 3.30pm on Wednesday, January 6, 2016, when 27-year-old Jessica Wongso arrived at the Grand Indonesia Mall in central Jakarta. She was due to meet two of her friends, Mena Sali Hinn and Harney Boone, for coffee at the upscale Olivier Café at 5pm. It had been a while since the
Starting point is 00:02:09 trio had all been together. The three Indonesian women had met in Australia years prior while studying at the Billy Blue College of Design in Sydney. After graduating, Jessica had stayed in Australia while Mina and Harni returned to Jakarta. They'd all remained in contact and caught up intermittently over the years, but this was Jessica's first trip back to Jakarta since 2012. Having arrived at the cafe early, Jessica went in to make a reservation. Olivier was a trendy venue that catered to high-end clientele. It was known as a cool spot to be seen and was a favourite among Jakarta's more affluent crowds. Customers could enjoy the eclectic menu of fine foods, desserts and cocktails
Starting point is 00:02:59 while soaking in the natural light that poured in from the skylights above. An assortment of indoor plants perfectly complemented the green vinyl booths and timber finishes, creating an earthy yet sophisticated atmosphere. It was the perfect spot for the friends, who came from well-off families and lived around the affluent Kalapa Garding district to catch up. After reserving a table, Jessica still had plenty of time before her friends arrived. She ventured back into the shopping mall. and headed to Bath and Body Works, a fragrance and skin care store,
Starting point is 00:03:38 where she bought a bottle of liquid soap for herself and each of her friends. She then returned to Olivier with the soaps in three large paper gift bags. By this point, it was 4.14pm. Jessica took a seat at Table 54, a large booth situated towards the back of the cafe. Earlier that day, Jessica had messaged to Mina and Han. in their WhatsApp group, saying that she'd like to pay for their drinks that afternoon. The others told her she didn't need to, but Jessica insisted. She walked over to the bar and ordered an old-fashioned cocktail for herself, a Sazarak for Harni,
Starting point is 00:04:21 and a Vietnamese iced coffee for Mirna. Miena was a self-proclaimed coffee snob, and she'd raved to the group about how much she loved Olivier's Vietnamese iced coffees. By the time Meena and Harnie finally arrived, it was 5.16 p.m. Jessica stood up and warmly embraced her friends, letting them know she'd taken the liberty of ordering their drinks. Mina thanked Jessica for this kind, albeit unnecessary gesture, and the three sat down and began chatting.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Mina took a sip through the straw of her iced coffee. She immediately screwed her face up and disgust. This tastes awful, she declared. Mina extended the drink towards Harni and asked her to taste it. It didn't smell like coffee at all and the colour didn't look quite right either. Harnie reluctantly took a sip. It tasted bitter and burning. Harnie pushed the drink towards Jessica, but having seen her friend's reactions,
Starting point is 00:05:31 Jessica refused to taste it. Then, Myrna started fanning her face with her hand. Suddenly, she threw her head back and began convulsing. The cafe staff saw what was going on and ran over to move the table out of the way and give Mirna some room. It was clear she was having trouble breathing and she soon began foaming at the mouth, her eyes rolling into the back of her head. Olivia's manager joined the crowd that had.
Starting point is 00:06:04 gathered around trying to help. Jessica Wongso stood next to her. What did you put in the coffee? she asked. An unconscious Myrna Salihin was wheelchered out of Olivier Café and to a medical center within the shopping mall. Realising the seriousness of her condition, she was transported to hospital where doctors worked desperately to try and revive her. Her family immediately rushed to her side, having received a
Starting point is 00:06:58 phone call from a hysterical harnie who initially thought that Mirna might be having an epileptic seizure. Mena's father, Eddie Salyhyn, despairingly tried to administer CPR to Mianna himself, while her twin sister Sandy yelled at her to wake up. But it was no use. Mena was officially declared dead 30 minutes after arriving at the hospital. The Sali Hinn family was left in shock. As far as they were concerned, 27-year-old Mirna had been in perfect health. She was in the prime of her life, working for a design company and having just gotten married to her adoring husband, Arif Samarko, two months earlier. They'd had an opulent ceremony at a luxury resort in Bali, attended by their closest
Starting point is 00:07:50 friends and family. Mina had grand plans for her future, with the dreams of opening her own cafe and starting a family of her own. How, her family wondered, could she be taken from them so suddenly? Myrna's father, Eddie, reported his daughter's death to the police. There was only one explanation he could think of for Mirna's sudden death, and it was that she had been poisoned. Harnie Boone told the doctor that she had drank from Mina's iced coffee and was worried that she would die too. The doctor conducted a physical examination but concluded that Harnie was fine. He prescribed a laxative and told her to eat and drink as much as possible to flush out any potential toxins from her system.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Jessica Wongso was also examined and given the all clear, while police took samples from Miena's stomach contents for toxicological testing to determine if she had indeed been poisoned. The police went to Olivier Cafe and spoke to the staff there. The barista who made the Vietnamese iced coffee, Runga Saputra, said there had been nothing unusual about the coffee. After the receipt for the order came through, Runga said he made the beverage like he always did, filling a glass with ice and a couple of spoons of condensed milk before placing what's known as a fiend filter full of ground coffee on top of it, and a few of ground coffee on top of it, and pouring over hot water. He then put the coffee on a tray to be taken out by the server.
Starting point is 00:09:34 The server didn't find anything unusual about the coffee when he took it over to Table 54. It looked and smelt like it always did. After Mirna collapsed, Olivier's bar manager, Divi Searguyen, took the iced coffee into the back kitchen and examined it herself. She had a media concerns about it based on Jessica Wongso's comment about what had been put into it. Divi gave the iced coffee a whiff and took a sip. It smelt and tasted rotten. Runga, the barrister who made the iced coffee, came in and noticed that the colour had changed since he made it. It should have been brown, but it had turned the golden yellow colour of turmeric. Runga sniffed the coffee and was hit with a sharp odour that smelt like glue.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It instantly irritated his nose. Panicked, Rungar began double-checking all of the ingredients he'd used to make the drink, but everything appeared to be completely fine. Having kept the drink aside, a bartender poured the leftover iced coffee into an empty water bottle and handed it over to the police for toxicological testing. Three days after Mena Salehyn's death, the results came back. It was confirmed that the iced coffee contained cyanide, a rapidly acting and highly lethal poison. When ingested, cyanide affects the cardiovascular and central nervous system
Starting point is 00:11:15 by preventing the body's cells from receiving or absorbing oxygen. Within minutes of absorbing the point, a person can experience organ failure, convulsions, coma and death. While all of this was consistent with the symptoms Meena exhibited right before her death, a full autopsy would need to be done to prove that she hadn't died from natural causes. The police met with Meena's family at the funeral home and requested permission to perform a full autopsy. Her mother refused, saying she didn't want anyone to touch her daughter. order's body. They intended to have an open casket funeral for Mirna the following day,
Starting point is 00:11:59 and her body had already been prepared for burial. This was a major roadblock for the police. They explained that without an autopsy being done, they wouldn't be able to conduct a proper investigation to prove that Meena had actually been poisoned. After some deliberation, Meena's family continued to reject the full autopsy, but they agreed that her stomach and liver could be removed for further toxicological testing. Mina's funeral went ahead the following day. Meena was a popular and deeply loved young woman, and it was a highly emotional time for those in attendance. For Meena's father, Eddie Salehyn, the loss of his daughter made him feel like he'd lost his
Starting point is 00:12:48 sparring partner. Eddie was a successful, wealthy businessman with a tough, no-nonsense attitude. He'd always seen traits in Mina that he recognised in himself, and he admired the way she challenged him whenever they had a disagreement. Following his daughter's burial, Eddie told reporters, We entrust the case to the police. I believe in the power of God. I believe the police will be able to arrest the perpetrator so my daughter can rest in peace. There was one person who was noticeably absent from Meena's burial, and that was Jessica Wongso. Some wondered why she wasn't there, given the two seemed to be close friends and had been together when Meena died. But the truth was that Jessica wouldn't have been very welcome there.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Meena's parents had always viewed Jessica as a bit peculiar. The first time they'd met her, she'd been overly affectionate in the way she hugged Mirna's mother. When she first visited their house, they also found it strange that she had entered their bedroom. Her old behaviour continued at the hospital on the day Mirna died. Unlike Harnie, who had been in a clear state of shock and distress, Jessica had been oddly calm. Eddie Salli Hinn felt like Jessica was avoiding him by pretending to be short of breath and have a stomach ache. He asked Jessica what she had to drink at the cafe and she told him
Starting point is 00:14:31 mineral water. Eddie was surprised by this response. He'd seen the receipt from Olivier and knew that Jessica had ordered cocktails for herself and Harnie. He couldn't understand why she would lie about such a thing, unless of course, she had something to hide. The day after Minas Burial, toxicology tests confirmed the presence of cyanide in her stomach. With the police now confident that she had definitely been poisoned, they reviewed the footage taken from the nine CCTV cameras around Olivier Cafe on Wednesday, January 6. There didn't appear to be anything unusual about Runga Saputra's actions as he made the Vietnamese iced coffee, nor did the server interfere with the drink in any way when bringing it over to Jessica's table at 4.24 p.m. It sat there out in the open
Starting point is 00:15:30 for 52 minutes until Meena and Hani arrived at 5.16 p.m. At no point between the drink being delivered and Mirna taking the first sip did anyone else approach the table. Jessica Wongso was filmed arriving at the cafe lobby at 3.30pm. She then made her way into the main dining area to choose a table for her group. But there was something odd about her movements that seemed unnatural. She walked around the room in a somewhat suspicious manner, looking around as though she was scoping the place out. At one point, she looked directly at one of the security cameras. The table Jessica eventually chose, table number 54, was located towards the back of the cafe, where the closest camera was obscured by a large pot filled with indoor plants. However, another camera at the opposite side of the restaurant provided a direct, albeit grainy, view. This camera captured Jessica as she sat down in the booth and placed the three gift bags from
Starting point is 00:16:42 bath and bodyworks on top of the table, arranging them in a line. When the waiter placed a menu plate at the end of the table, Jessica picked it up and placed it parallel to the gift bags. Once the drinks arrived, the bags essentially acted as a barrier, obstructing the drinks from the view of the camera on the other side of the room. Police couldn't see exactly what Jessica was doing behind the gift bags, but at one stage she made some movements as though she was taking something out of her handbag. She later moved the iced coffee cup around, placing it further down the table to where Mina would eventually sit. Minutes before Mirna and Hani arrived, she put the gift bags on the floor. Once Mirna took a sip of the iced coffee, she began exhibiting symptoms almost immediately,
Starting point is 00:17:39 waving her hands in front of her face as though trying to cool herself down. After she collapsed and the staff rushed over to help, a panic-stricken Harnie called Miena's husband a reef on her mobile to let him know what was happening and to ask if Miena had any pre-existing health conditions that could explain what was going on. While all of this was happening, Jessica stood back from the crowd, watching on with little emotion, while rubbing it. her hands together. This was a significant moment for the police. When cyanide comes into contact with
Starting point is 00:18:18 the skin, it causes irritation, itching, and a dermatological condition known as cyanide rash. Based on the footage, they began to theorise that Jessica had invited Mina out for a drink with the intention of poisoning her. Beyond the cafe staff, there was simply no other person who had the the opportunity to tamper with Myrna's drink. It also explained why Jessica had arrived so much earlier than her friends and why she'd offered to buy their drinks in advance. Furthermore, after Myrna died, Jessica had sent Meena's twin sister Sandia message, asking if her family had received the results of Meena's lab tests yet. She also sent Sandia link to a new story about fake coffee containing cyanide that was being sold in Vietnam, and suggested that's what
Starting point is 00:19:14 could have happened to Myrna. From the way Jessica had surveyed the restaurant, the police believed she'd arrived early so she could scope out the locations of the security cameras and choose a table that was out of their view. She then purchased the items from bath and bodyworks so the gift bags would provide an added layer of protection while she stealthily slipped the cyanide into Mirna's iced coffee, getting some on her hands in the process. A review of the WhatsApp messages sent between the friend group revealed that Jessica had asked if there was a medical clinic inside the shopping mall. She claimed she needed to get a prescription for vitamin D, but investigators suspected there could be a more sinister reason for her query.
Starting point is 00:20:04 What if she was checking to make sure there wouldn't be a doctor on site who could administer first aid to Meena and potentially save her life? The problem was, the cameras hadn't actually captured Jessica putting anything into Mina's drink, and no traces of cyanide had been found at their table. Jessica had been summoned to the police station for an interview after the toxicology tests came back, and she'd appeared calm the whole time. saying nothing that incriminated her in Meena's murder. She had no criminal record in Indonesia and told the police she'd never had any trouble with the law. A search of her parents' home in Jakarta didn't turn up any evidence of cyanide,
Starting point is 00:20:54 nor was there any trace of the poison found in Jessica's handbag. However, when police asked Jessica for the clothing she had been wearing on the day Meena died, she told them she had thrown the pants away. She said they'd gotten a hole in them on the way to the hospital and had asked her maid to get rid of them. Police seized a computer, documents and tissues from Jessica's house, but found nothing that tied her to the poisoning. Then there was the obvious question of what motive Jessica could possibly have to want Min are dead.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Not only did she claim they were good friends, But an examination of text messages sent between the two showed nothing but a typical female friendship, and no one in their social circle knew of any overt friction between them. They also didn't think of Jessica as a violent or dangerous person. Most knew her to be bubbly and a bit goofy, not the kind to commit such a callous crime. Police spoke to Mina's husband to Reef Samarko
Starting point is 00:22:05 to see what he knew about Jessica. and Meena's relationship. The only thing a Reef could think of was a minor incident that Meena had told him about back in October 2014, roughly 14 months before she died. Having returned to Sydney for a holiday, Meena had caught up with Jessica for a coffee. As they chatted, Jessica told Meena about some problems she was having with her boyfriend at the time, a man named Patrick O'Connor. She apparently said that Patrick could be rough with her and that he had some problems with the drugs.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Mina had never met Patrick, but she didn't like the sound of him and couldn't fathom what Jessica saw in him. According to a reef, Mirna could be very upfront about her opinions and she told Jessica not to be stupid. She told Jessica to think about her future and urged her to end the relationship. Jessica didn't like what she heard and had reportedly stormed out of the restaurant. A reef said that Meena became wary of Jessica after that and no longer wanted to meet up with her one-on-one. When Jessica returned to Jakarta in December 2015, one month before Meena died, a reef joined Meena when the two women had first caught up for coffee. He and Meena had only recently tied the knot in Bali and they were
Starting point is 00:23:38 still riding the wave of newlywed bliss. Jessica hadn't been invited to the wedding, but if she held any grudges about this, she made no mention of it. While these minor incidents indicated that things weren't completely rosy between the two friends, it still didn't suggest why Jessica Wongso would want Mina Salehyn dead, or how she'd managed to pull off such an elaborate plot. For the average citizen, cyanide isn't exactly easy to come by. Although it's a naturally occurring chemical found in many plants, such as apple seeds, almonds and tapioca, the level of cyanide found in the foods we consume is very low. It's the man-made version available in gas, liquid and solid form that's fast-acting and highly lethal. Cyanide is illegal in indebtable. Cyanide is illegal in
Starting point is 00:24:39 Indonesia, and police could find no evidence of Jessica having sourced or attempting to source it from anywhere. However, that didn't mean it wasn't possible. In Indonesia, it was once a common practice to catch fish using cyanide. Fishermen would add a small amount of the chemical to waterways to stun fish and send them floating to the surface. Although this practice had become illegal, the laws were minimally enforced, and it wasn't difficult to buy cyanide from illegal sellers. If Jessica had managed to source the cyanide, police considered how she could have gotten the cyanide into the iced coffee. According to Olivier staff, it was cafe policy that all straws be served alongside drinks with a paper sheath at the top for hygiene purposes. Yet, some staff members recalled that the sheath had been removed from Meena's straw and placed into her iced coffee before she arrived.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Police wondered whether Jessica could have come prepared with the cyanide-laced straw, which she swapped over with the cafe's straw. Either that, or she could have placed the cyanide into the drink in some other way and then unsheathed the straw to stir it in. The straw Miena drank from had been thrown away, so neither of these theories could be tested. Regardless of how she'd managed to do it, police felt confident enough with the circumstantial evidence they'd gathered that on Friday, January 29, 2016, they publicly declared Mena Sullyin's death a murder, and named Jessica Wongso as a suspect. The following morning they went to Jessica's parents' house to formally place her under arrest, only to find that no one was there. The police tracked her down to a hotel room in North Jakarta where she was staying with her parents and in possession of her luggage.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Fearing that Jessica was trying to flee the country, they charged her with Mina's murder and placed her in custody without bail. As news spread about Jessica's arrest, many were quick to question her unusually calm demeanour when fronting the press. Jessica smiled for the cameras outside the police station, raising further suspicion against her in the eyes of the public. The murder charge carried the possibility of a death sentence, making her seemingly upbeat attitude difficult to reconcile. In the eyes of Meena's family, Jessica seemed to be enjoying the attention. They supported Jessica being given the death sentence, with Mina's twin sister Sandy telling Australia's 60 Minutes program.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I would like to see justice for my sister. Eye for an eye. Life for a life. But when the prosecutors were handed the brief of evidence, they were reluctant to proceed to trial. While the police case against Jessica Wongso was compelling, it relied almost entirely on the grainy CCTV footage, statements from cafe staff and Jessica's strange behaviour on the day of Mina's death. There was still nothing to suggest how Jessica could have sourced the cyanide, no clear indication as to how she could have administered it, and no information about her mental state at the time. Prosecutors returned the brief to police, requesting more information before the trial could go ahead. Given that Jessica had spent roughly the past eight years in Australia, the Indonesian police knew very little about her past.
Starting point is 00:28:38 All they had was her statement that she'd never been in trouble with the law. They considered whether Jessica could have sourced the cyanide in Australia and brought it over when she returned to Jakarta. They reached out to the Australian Federal Police to see if they could shed any light, but AFP agents were hesitant to cooperate. Australia doesn't have the death penalty for convicted murderers, whereas Indonesia does. Given that Jessica was an Australian resident, they wanted to protect her from that possibility. The AFP agreed to help with the investigation on the condition that the death penalty be taken off the table. The Indonesian prosecutors agreed, and the confidential files were handed over.
Starting point is 00:29:30 As the Indonesian investigators cast their eye over the information, it quickly became clear there was more to Jessica Wongso than they had first realized. Case file will be back shortly. Thank you for supporting us by listening to this episode's sponsors. Thank you for listening to this episode's ads. By supporting our sponsors, you support Case File to continue to deliver quality content. While little was known about Jessica Wongso's early days in Sydney, the year leading up to Mirna Salehyn's death had been a tumultuous one for the then 26-year-old.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Police records revealed that Jessica had been working as a graphic designer for the New South Wales ambulance service when things began to unravel in her personal life. It all started in January 2015 when her boyfriend at the time an Australian man named Patrick O'Connor tried to end their relationship. According to Patrick, Jessica began sending him countless text and voice messages in which she threatened to hurt herself. She went ahead with that threat in late January 2015 and was subsequently hospitalized for self-harm. This destructive behaviour continued to escalate over the following months. In October 2015, Patrick called the police to Jessica's flat after she tried to poison herself
Starting point is 00:31:20 with carbon monoxide from a small coal barbecue. She was hospitalized but released shortly after. A few weeks later, police were called to the flat again. This time, Jessica was unconscious in bed. with a bottle of whiskey and three letters by her side. One of the letters was addressed to her family and one was addressed to her co-workers, saying her goodbyes.
Starting point is 00:31:48 The other letter blamed Patrick for her death. In November 2015, two months before Meena's death, Patrick contacted the police after discovering that his car had been destroyed by a vandal. Although he couldn't prove who was responsible, he felt confident it was Jessica. Not only had she been harassing him, but his friends too. Fearing for their safety, Patrick sought an urgent apprehended violence order against Jessica,
Starting point is 00:32:22 hoping that a court-issued restraining order would deter her from further harassment. He described Jessica as unstable, and although there was no evidence for police to charge her with damaging the car, the urgent AVO request was granted, with a court hearing set for February 2016 to formally put it in place. Around the same time that Patrick's car was vandalised, Jessica was fired from her job with the New South Wales Ambulance Service. As part of the investigation into Myrna Sellehin's suspected murder, police interviewed Jessica's former boss, a woman named Christy Carter. Christy told the police that during the eight months she'd spent working with the Jessica, she'd seen two very different sides of her personality.
Starting point is 00:33:15 While Jessica could be kind and loved to smile, she was also quick to wager if things didn't go her way. Christy described to Jessica as being manipulative, dishonest, hateful, and bad-tempered. She said she wasn't surprised to hear that she was being. accused of poisoning her friend, telling police, I have observed her for the past eight months, and from her attitude, hatred, and nature of her craziness, I have no doubt that she is capable of hurting or killing another person. Christy had gone to visit Jessica in the hospital after her suicide attempt in October 2015. Jessica was furious because the doctors were refusing
Starting point is 00:34:03 to discharge her. She said something along the lines of, The bastards in this hospital will not let me go home and they are treating me like a killer. But if I wanted to kill someone, I certainly know how to do it. I could get a gun and I know the right dosage. After Jessica lost her job with the ambulance service, she asked for Christy's help in finding a new place to live. When Christie refused, Jessica allegedly threatened to kill.
Starting point is 00:34:35 kill both Christy and Christy's mother. Christy told the police she had no idea how Jessica could have obtained the cyanide that was used to kill Meena, but she didn't doubt the possibility. When Jessica wants something to happen, Christy said, it could happen. All up, Jessica Wongso had reportedly been hospitalized for four suicide attempts in the months leading up to Meena's death. Combined with the allegations from Patrick O'Connor and the comments she allegedly made to Christy Carter, this gave Indonesian authorities their first real insight into Jessica's psychological state leading up to the supposed crime.
Starting point is 00:35:24 But it was a police report from August 2015 that really caught their attention. On the night of Saturday, August 22, 2015, emergency services were, were called to a nursing home in the Sydney suburb of Leichhardt, after a car plunged through the brick facade, just metres from where dozens of elderly residents were sleeping. Police arrived to find Jessica Wongso behind the wheel in what they believed to be an intoxicated state. She was taken to the hospital but managed to escape with minor injuries to her ribs and chest. No one else was hurt in the accident. Jessica was charged with a high-range drink driving offence, further adding to her problems.
Starting point is 00:36:15 According to confidential police files released exclusively by ABC's 730 program, in the lead-up to her trip to Jakarta at the end of 2015, Jessica sent a text message to a friend saying she was considering fleeing Australia to avoid paying over $15,000 she owed in fines and legal fees. I could use the money to have an epic holiday, she wrote. Have new licences anywhere where my dad got power too, rather than giving money to those police ignorant cunts. In another message, she wrote,
Starting point is 00:36:54 I'm being pushed again and again. I'll break. For the Indonesian prosecutors, the files handed over by the Australian federal police were exactly what they needed to pursue the murder charge. against Jessica. In their view, it proved that she was becoming more emotionally unstable and increasingly aggressive in the lead-up to Mina's death. Her harmful behaviour, once directed at herself, was now turned toward others. It also turned out that Jessica had been fired
Starting point is 00:37:31 just days after Mina and Arif got married, a wedding she had not been invited to. Prosecutors believed the culmination of these events could have led her to direct her anger towards Meena. As Meena's twin sister, Sandy, told 60 Minutes, I think Jessica is jealous of Meena because Mina had a good life and a good future ahead of her, and maybe Jessica's life is crap. All up, the brief of evidence was sent back and forth between the police and prosecutors five times over a three and a half-month period, before the Jakarta High Prosecutor's Office finally determined that there was enough evidence for the case to proceed to trial. This was major news in Indonesia, where the story had been making headlines from the outset. While the police had been gathering
Starting point is 00:38:29 evidence against Jessica, speculation had been rampant about who else could have possibly been responsible for Meina Salehyn's death. Although no one else was ever formally investigated for the murder, that didn't stop the rumor mill from running wild. One of Jessica's lawyers claimed that someone could have taken out a life insurance policy against Myanmar overseas, in which they stood to gain $5 million US dollars in the event she was murdered. Without elaborating on this possibility, he said that Jessica was being used as a scapegoer. asking, why is Jessica the only person targeted in this case when it is possible that other persons were involved? These comments led to public suspicion against Mina's husband, Arif Samarko,
Starting point is 00:39:24 with some speculating that he was the one who stood to gain from such a life insurance policy. Some publications reported that a reef could have co-conspired with Olivier's barista Runga Seputra, paying him to spike Miena's drink. One tabloid journalist claimed that on the day before Mianna died, he was in the car park of a shopping mall when he saw a man who looked like a reef Samarko pass a package to Runga Saputra. The implication being that the package could have contained either cash or the cyanide that was used to kill Miena.
Starting point is 00:40:03 A reef vehemently denied such rumours and publicly, accused the journalist of slander, while Meena's father reported Jessica's lawyer for defamation for his unfounded statements regarding the life insurance policy. Meanwhile, others theorised that Meena and Jessica could have been having a secret lesbian relationship during their time together in Australia. Meena's marriage to a reef tipped Jessica over the edge and led her to poison Meena in a jealous rage. Meena's friends and family denied that she was ever involved in a same-sex relationship, but that didn't discount the possibility that Jessica could have had romantic feelings towards her.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Mina's father publicly claimed to have seen a series of text messages that Jessica had sent Mina which he believed carried romantic connotations, fueling rumours that Jessica could have killed Meena out of rejection. A forensic hypnotist who interviewed Jessica and examined the messages sent between the pair, told ABC's 730 there was no evidence to support the theory that the two women were lovers, but the rumor prevailed regardless. Some also speculated that a reef and Jessica could have been having an affair, an allegation they both strongly denied and for which no evidence existed.
Starting point is 00:41:36 For the average Indonesian, watching the story play out was compared to watching a real-life soap opera. In a country where the majority of the population reportedly lives on less than four US dollars a day, the same price as a cup of coffee from Olivier Cafe, the salacious story of murder and revenge among the wealthy urban class had people gripped. With the Jessica and Minas families pitted against one another, unfounded rumours swirled that the murder was part of a business rivalry between the two families. As writer Johannes Nagroho explained in an article for Foreign Policy magazine, while the two families do not make the list of Indonesia's top ten richest,
Starting point is 00:42:26 they are filthy rich by the urban wealthy standards, at least rich enough to buy the law. The fight between them is a drama that even those convinced, of Wongso's innocence can enjoy. Indonesians have a proverb that goes, When two elephants clash, the mouse deer caught in between is doomed. In Sally Hinn's murder case, however, two elephants are locked in a struggle while the tiny mouse deer get to be the spectators.
Starting point is 00:42:58 For the average Indonesian, this is a moment of sweet irony. Watching giants grapple at each other's throats without being trampled underfoot yourself does not happen a lot in a country where the political and economic elites hold the reins, often at the expense of the rest. Ultimately, tragedies like Salihin's death are seized upon by Indonesians because they expose the vulnerabilities of the country's upper class and bring the hope that things can go awry, even for the giants. Interest in the story only strengthened after it was revealed that celebrity lawyer Oto Hezibwan had agreed to take on Jessica's defense case pro bono. Many were disappointed by his decision to do so. With the
Starting point is 00:43:51 Jessica's trial approaching, a majority of Indonesians were convinced she was guilty and they didn't approve of Oto's decision to defend a killer. But as Oto later told Netflix, he had been scheduled to go on an Alaskan cruise with his family when he received a visit from Jessica's mother, saying that her daughter had been treated unfairly and pleading with him to take on the case. Oto met with Jessica and agreed to help on one condition. If at any point he became convinced that she was guilty of murdering Mena Salyhyn, he would resign from the case. Jessica agreed without hesitation. Oto was one of 15 lawyers on Jessica's legal team.
Starting point is 00:44:40 As they looked further into the case, they discovered that all wasn't as it seemed in the trial by media. First and foremost, there was the question of why Jessica would have chosen Olivier Cafe as the place to commit a murder. Not only was it a popular, busy spot, but if Jessica was aware of the CCTV cameras like investigators asserted, then why wouldn't she have simply chosen a quieter location that didn't have any security cameras? The fact that Jessica had arrived at Olivier Cafe an hour and a half ahead of the agreed-upon meeting time
Starting point is 00:45:19 was viewed as proof that she'd come to scope the place out in preparation for Meina's murder. But, according to Jessica, she only arrived so early because of the three-in-one track, traffic rule that was in place in Jakarta at the time. To avoid congestion on the roads of the densely populated city, only cars with three or more passengers were allowed to use the main roads during peak periods. She said she'd only arrived early because she had to, not because she wanted to. Much had also been made about Jessica's decision to order her friend's drinks ahead of time, with the implication being that she did this so she could slip the cyanide into Meena's drink. But Jessica claimed that she'd ordered the drinks expecting them to be served by the
Starting point is 00:46:10 time Meena and Harnie arrived. WhatsApp messages sent between the group at the time confirmed that Mina and Harnie had been running late that afternoon. If Meena and Harnie had arrived on time, like Jessica expected, her defense team pointed out that she would not have been running late that afternoon. have had the opportunity to administer the cyanide. The messages also showed that Jessica told Mina she was going to order the Vietnamese iced coffee for her ahead of time, to which Mina agreed. For the defence team, Jessica's message to Mina's twin sister Sandy about the lab results wasn't an attempt to see if she'd been caught, but because she was genuinely curious to know
Starting point is 00:46:56 how her friend had died. The article she'd sent Sandy about cyanide-laced coffee being sold in Vietnam wasn't an indication that Jessica knew Mina had been poisoned with cyanide either, but simply proved that she was looking for any possible information about what might have happened to her friend. The fact that Jessica was staying in a hotel with packed suitcases at the time of her arrest wasn't an indication that she intended to flee the country. She and her parents had moved there to escape the throngs of journalists who had camped outside of their home.
Starting point is 00:47:34 With no evidence to suggest how Jessica could have sourced the cyanide, and no footage of her removing anything from her handbag or putting anything into the iced coffee, her defence team questioned the validity of the prosecution's case entirely. The timing of the so-called suspicious movements that Jessica had made behind the gift bags coincided with a text message that she had sent to Meena. They believed that any movement she made could be attributed to that, and they didn't think there was anything suspicious about the gift bags either. Jessica claimed she had simply wanted to buy her friends a present. As for her unusually composed demeanor after Mirna's death and when fronting reporters, Jessica explained that she was generally a calm person and she didn't want to show her true emotions in front of the cameras.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Confused about how to deal with the whole saga, she said she wanted to bury the memory of what happened on January 6. But above all, there was one major detail that the defrauded. fence team couldn't get passed. The lethal oral dose of cyanide for a human of Myrna's weight was around 171 milligrams. Toxicology testing of the Vietnamese iced coffee handed over by staff at Olivier Cafe detected 7,400 milligrams per litre of cyanide in the glass served to Meena and 7,900 milligrams per liter in the water bottle into which staff had poured the remaining liquid after the incident. However, toxicology tests conducted on samples taken from Myrna's body 70 minutes after she died, had revealed no traces of cyanide in her gastric fluid,
Starting point is 00:49:33 bile or urine. Further samples taken three days after she died had revealed just 0.2 milligrams per liter of cyanide in her stomach. Not only was this incredibly low, dose not enough to be fatal, but no cyanide was detected in her bowel or liver, which would be expected in a case of cyanide poisoning. Her skin also hadn't shown a reddish hue, which is another telltale sign of cyanide poisoning. By the time those second samples had been taken, Meena's body had already been embalmed. Jessica's defense team spoke to at least two forensic pathologists who explained that the low levels of cyanide detected in Meena's stomach could have been produced post-mortem, possibly during the embalming process. Because her family hadn't approved
Starting point is 00:50:33 a full autopsy, none of her organs, such as her brain, lungs or heart had been tested. And without these tests, the forensic pathologists said it couldn't be proven that Meena hadn't died from natural causes. This was a huge piece of information for the defense. If Mirna hadn't been poisoned, it explained why Harni and the cafe staff who tasted the iced coffee hadn't fallen sick despite the high levels of cyanide found in the drink. As far as the defense was concerned, the only way to explain the lack of cyanide in Mirna's system was that the cyanide had been added to the drink after Mirna drank it. Case File will be back shortly.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Thank you for supporting us by listening to this episode's sponsors. Thank you for listening to this episode's ads. By supporting our sponsors, you support CaseFile to continue to deliver quality content. By the time Jessica Wongso's highly anticipated trial for the murder of Meena Salihin commenced in June 2016, it had been dubbed to Indonesia's trial of the century. In terms of public interest, it was likened to the O.J. Simpson murder trial in the United States, with the topic of Jessica's possible guilt deemed a national obsession. Camera crews filled the courthouse with three television stations set to broadcast a round-the-clock
Starting point is 00:52:26 live feed of the proceedings, complete with commentaries. Indonesia operates under a civil law system. In criminal trials, there is no jury. Instead, a team of public prosecutors goes head to head with a defense team, while a panel of three judges determines the fate of the accused. The proceedings are inquisitorial in nature, meaning the judges are allowed to question witnesses directly. They sit at the head of the room, while witnesses sit alone.
Starting point is 00:53:00 in a chair in the center of the court, and the two legal teams are placed at either side. During opening arguments, the prosecution team presented their theory that a jealous Jessica Wongso had been motivated to kill Mina Salahin to avenge the pain she felt over her breakup with Patrick O'Connor. They believed Jessica had arrived at Olivier Cafe armed with the cyanide and intentionally chose a table out of view of the security cameras, where she used the three gift bags to further shield what she was about to do. Ordering the drinks before her friend's arrival, she administered the cyanide behind the bags and then watched on with barely feigned concern
Starting point is 00:53:46 as the poison took its toll on Mina. The defence team argued there was no evidence to prove any such claims. one of her lawyers stated, It does not make sense that Jessica flew all the way from Australia to Indonesia to murder Meena. It also does not make sense that Jessica would murder Meena because she had once asked Jessica to end her relationship with her boyfriend at the time. Turning to the judges, he asked, Why is Jessica the only one suspected of murder when she did not do anything unusual, and nobody witnessed her putting cyanide into the coffee.
Starting point is 00:54:30 The defence said the possibility that someone else was responsible for the poisoning couldn't be discounted. A bartender from Olivier Cafe testified to having poured Miener's iced coffee into an empty water bottle and handing it over to the police for testing. While some staff members recalled that the glass had them been secured in cling wrap and handed to the police too, the bartender testified that he had returned the empty glass to the cafe pantry. Oto Hesibwan pointed out that the police brief of evidence said that cyanide was found in the water bottle as well as the coffee glass. If the bartender's testimony was correct, then what glass had police used for testing? The police had also asked Olivier's manager to provide them with a glass of
Starting point is 00:55:23 Vietnamese iced coffee they could compare to Meena's drink, as well as another empty water bottle that they could pour the comparison beverage into. Therefore, if the bartender had misremembered, the police should have had two glasses and two bottles. Yet, their brief of evidence inexplicably mentioned just one bottle and two glasses. Given these inconsistencies and the fact that no one else who tasted the drink became severely ill, the defence said it couldn't be ruled out that either the cafe staff or the police could have added the cyanide to the iced coffee after Mina drank it, but before it was tested. This wasn't an outlandish allegation to make. The Indonesian legal system is notoriously corrupt, with the judges and prosecutors
Starting point is 00:56:17 known to take bribes from people in positions of power. Rumors had circulated that Myrna's father could have worked with the police to secure a conviction against Jessica at any cost necessary. Although there was absolutely no evidence to support such an allegation, talk of corruption had surrounded the case from the very beginning. The defence also pointed out that Olivier's barista, Runga Saputra, had disposed of the hot water from the kettle that had been used to make Meena's iced coffee. They suggested this could have been a deliberate move to ensure the water couldn't be tested for cyanide. Lawyer Otto Hazabwan claimed to have seen a police file with a confession from Ranga Saputra, in which he admitted he was hired to kill MENA, but that this file had mysteriously disappeared. Taking the witness stand, Runga denied having gotten rid of the hot water that had been used to make Miena's iced coffee.
Starting point is 00:57:21 He then changed his mind and said he wasn't sure if he had. This inconsistency raised some eyebrows about his credibility, but when asked if he'd accepted any money from Miena's husband, Arif Samako to commit the murder, Runga vehemently denied it. At the time of the trial, he was still employed at Olivier Cafe. If I received the money, I would have quit my job, he stated. The prosecution said it didn't matter if the hot water used to make the iced coffee had been disposed of. Experts testified that if the cyanide was put into hot water, the resulting steam would have given off a strong smell of burnt almonds,
Starting point is 00:58:07 and in an enclosed space like the cafe, others who inhaled the steam would have also been poisoned. Given that no one else was affected, and even Jessica claimed that the coffee had smelled normal, the cyanide had to have been put into the drink when it was already cold. And the only one who went anywhere near the drink when it was cold was Jessica. A reef Samako also rejected the allegation that he'd conspired to have Mirna killed, saying he'd never met Runga Saputra before in his life. He testified about how angry Jessica had been at Mirna for suggesting she'd break up with her boyfriend and how this had led to Mirna becoming afraid of Jessica's anger and not wanting to meet her alone.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Jessica's anger issues were further solidified by the comments she allegedly made to her former boss in Sydney, Christy Carter. While Christy didn't give evidence, her statement detailing Jessica's suicide attempts, her threats to kill Christy and her mother, and her comments that she knew the right dosage to kill someone, were read to the course. These comments appeared to lend further weight to testimony provided by several psychologists who described Jessica as being intelligent and confident with a narcissistic personality and a huge impulse to be at the centre of attention. One clinical psychologist who had interviewed Jessica shortly after her arrest said that
Starting point is 00:59:47 she was calm in situations where she could anticipate what was coming next, but it'll was when something unexpected happened that her emotions ignited. Having studied the CCTV footage from Olivier Cafe, this psychologist believed that Jessica showed no signs of panic when Meena collapsed. Even when Jessica walked over to fetch some water for Meena, she didn't hurry. A criminologist from the University of Jakarta testified that he'd interviewed Jessica twice at the police station, during which he'd used physiognomy, the practice of assessing a person's character based on their outer appearance. Studying Jessica's facial features and expressions while they spoke, he determined that she had a narcissistic personality and a great desire to be loved.
Starting point is 01:00:42 While he didn't find her to have psychopath traits, he did find her to be emotionally unstable, spiteful and unable to tolerate criticism. A criminologist for the defense team refuted that a criminologist has no place examining an individual's gestures without assistance from a psychologist. She told the judges, Physionomy is only used to describe potential offenses or people who have the potential to commit a crime. It can't be used to determine whether someone is guilty. But the major argument for Jessica's innocence stemmed from the results of the toxicology testing,
Starting point is 01:01:26 in which only small traces of cyanide were detected in Mina's stomach several days after her death. The forensic pathologist who examined Mina's body testified that her stomach and esophagus had turned black, which clearly indicated that she had been poisoned using a very toxic substance. A police toxicology expert told the court that after his expert team conducted a series of tests, he had no doubt that Myrna was killed by the cyanide. But Dr. Jaya Suryar-Admaja, a forensic pathologist from the University of Indonesia, testified for the defense that these traces of cyanide in Meena's stomach had probably come from the embalming chemicals that were used to preserve her body,
Starting point is 01:02:15 and that there was nothing to disprove that Myrna hadn't died from natural causes. If you don't check all the organs, you can't determine the cause of death, Dr. Admaja stated to the court. That's Forensic's dogma. We wouldn't know whether Meena had a stroke, for example, unless you examined her brain. Would the lungs be infected with certain diseases or not? Not to mention the heart. All of these, are potential causes of death. Dr. Atmaja also said that one of the telltale signs of cyanide poisoning is a red discoloration of the skin. When Myrna was first brought into the morgue, he said her skin was blue.
Starting point is 01:03:03 However, once the news got out that she had died from cyanide poisoning, the photos circulated online, and her skin was clearly red. The red-tinged photos had been submitted to the court by Mina's father earlier that day. According to Dr. Admaja, those photos could have been easily altered, a claim that caused commotion in the courtroom and provoked Mina's father to stand up in shock and voice his outrage. Two other forensic pathologists from Australia supported Dr. Atmarge's testimony that the low levels of cyanide found in Mines's stomach couldn't rule out the possibility that she had died from
Starting point is 01:03:48 natural causes. One said, if you take the toxicology results as they are and the explanation that the very low level of the gastric content was due to post-mortem changes, then it is impossible, in my view, to conclude that the death was due to cyanide poisoning. The less than optimal quality autopsy has failed in its primary duty to the deceased and her family, the accused and the justice system, which is to provide as definitively as possible a cause of death. Another stated plainly, these toxicology results show there is no evidence of cyanide ingestion. By the time Jessica Wongso took the stand in her own defence, the trial had gone on for three and a half months. hearings had run from morning to night, with some going as late as 2 a.m.
Starting point is 01:04:51 While it had been an exhausting time for all involved, the defence's evidence appeared to be having an impact on public perception. Jessica had gained more supporters, with many viewing the trial as a farce in which the prosecution was relying on flimsy and unreliable evidence. Others were more convinced of her guilt than ever, and resented the defence team. decision to call upon Australian expert witnesses instead of fellow Indonesians. One of the forensic pathologists was even arrested for misusing his tourist visa to testify at the trial and deported to Australia. It was pointed out that nobody seemed to care when this same pathologist had used a tourist visa when he'd been asked to help identify victims of the Bali
Starting point is 01:05:40 bombing terrorist attacks back in 2002. As Jessica took her seat in front of the panel of judges, she maintained her trademark calm and composed demeanor. She denied that the conversation in which Myna had supposedly told her to break up with Patrick had ever even happened, saying she hadn't ever told Meena anything about her relationship. I just told Mina I was close with one guy, she told the judges. I didn't even tell her Patrick's name. One of the prosecutors asked, How could a reef know Patrick's name when you never told Mina about him?
Starting point is 01:06:23 Unfazed, Jessica told the judge he would have to ask a reef that. She also said that 90% of the allegations made by her former boss, Christy Carter, were untrue. Jessica dispelled the rumours that she was a lesbian, stating, A lot of the expert's statements are untrue, and I want to say, say it firmly that I'm only interested in men, in the past, now, and in the future. Jessica said she hadn't lied when she told Mina's father that she had ordered mineral water at the cafe that day. Mena had asked for some after tasting the bad coffee and CCTV footage captured Jessica going to get it for her. It just wasn't noted on their bill. She also rejected
Starting point is 01:07:11 the claims that Mena was reluctant or scared to meet. with her alone, saying it was Mina who had initiated several of their catch-ups in Sydney. Some compared Jessica's calm demeanor to that of Amanda Knox, an American woman who was wrongfully convicted of murdering her housemate Meredith Kircher, as covered in episode 270 of case file. Instead of appearing nervous or intimidated, some thought Jessica was mocking the prosecutors. When one of them asked her whether Vietnamese iced coffee is served hot or cold, Jessica asked sarcastically, Well, what do you think? A moment that went viral on social media. Her attitude while giving her testimony only divided members of the public further. As Johannes Nogroho
Starting point is 01:08:06 explained in his article for foreign policy, while Jessica's sometimes contemptuous demeanour in court may have won hearts among the middle class, it could only aggravate her image with those prejudiced against her from the outset. Jessica told the judges she was being vilified by the prosecutors and the press who had made her entire personal life a topic of discussion. If she acted calm, she was interpreted as being a cold-blooded murderer, but if she cried or showed emotion, that was criticised too. Whatever I do is wrong, Jessica said. In closing arguments, prosecutors demanded that Jessica be given a 20-year sentence for the sorrow she had caused men as loved ones.
Starting point is 01:09:01 They called her sadistic and cruel to have intentionally killed her friend in a way that would have caused great pain and pointed out that she had shown no remorse. The defence countered that Jessica had shown no remorse because she had not committed the crime. After almost five months of hearings on Thursday, October 27, 2016, the judges delivered their verdict. They concluded there were only three parties that could have possibly put the cyanide in Minas' Drink, Olivia's staff, the police, or Jessica Wongsoe. They ruled out the cafe staff on the basis that the iced coffee had looked completely normal in the CCTV footage, and that no other patrons in the cafe had smelt burned almonds or collapsed,
Starting point is 01:09:54 supporting the notion that the cyanide had been put in the coffee after it was already cold. Furthermore, the judges believed it was logical to assume that a guilty staff member would have immediately disposed of any evidence rather than handing it over to the police. The fact that Meena had complained about the taste of the coffee and waved her hand in front of her mouth after drinking it, coupled with the fact that Harnie and at least two staff members tasted the coffee and noted it as foul meant the cyanide was in there before the police arrived. This proved to the judges that the police had not tampered with the evidence or added the cyanide to the coffee after confiscating it.
Starting point is 01:10:38 With the cafe staff and police ruled out, that just left one explanation. Jessica Wongso was the one who ordered the iced ice-caught. coffee. She was the one who placed the gift bags on the table to obscure the view of the cameras, and she was the only one who had access to the beverage before Mina drank it. For the premeditated murder of Mina Sali-Hin, the judges found Jessica Wongso guilty and sentenced her to 20 years in prison. Mina's loved ones broke down in tears of relief, while Jessica maintained her composure. She looked at the judge and said,
Starting point is 01:11:21 Thank you, Your Honor. I don't accept the verdict. Her lawyer, Oto Hezaabwan, was shaken. He told the court. Because the judge's decision is unfair, biased and definitely not according to the law, this trial has sounded the death knell for justice. As a result, we firmly announce that we'll file an appeal. With that, a round of applause and cheering erupted.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Outside court, Miena's father told reporters that even though he hoped Jessica would get the death sentence, he respected the judge's decision. The most important thing is that it has been proven that Jessica has killed Miena, he said. Jessica's legal team immediately filed an appeal, arguing that the judges had ignored key evidence, that cast significant doubt on whether Mina had actually died from cyanide poisoning, and if she had, whether Jessica was the perpetrator. They argued that the testimony from Jessica's former boss and the CCTV footage taken from Olivier Café should never have been admitted in court.
Starting point is 01:12:41 The prosecution hadn't aired the original footage, only a police copy, and the original had never been given to the defense. They argued that the footage could have been tampered with or certain frames could have been deleted. Jessica's appeal was rejected by both the High Court and the Supreme Court, sparking further debate about whether or not she had received a fair trial. Many believed that the judges had made their minds up about her guilt from the very beginning and were too quick to believe the prosecution's version of events without adequate evidence to support. it. One of the trial judges even said so in an interview with Tempo magazine just days after the
Starting point is 01:13:30 verdict was delivered. For me, this case was very simple, he said. The relationship between the defendant and the victim was very close. A person who poisons another person is acquainted with that person. Just look at it from when Jessica came until she ordered a drink. That's the extent of it. The poison was put in when the drink was cold. If cyanide is put into hot water, everyone around would have been poisoned by inhaling the steam. It is as simple as that. Simon Butt is a professor of Indonesian law at the University of Sydney Law School.
Starting point is 01:14:16 After examining the case against the Jessica Wongso in detail, he concluded that her trial was not fair based on the standards of the Indonesian legal system. He found that police had interrogated Jessica without a lawyer present, searched her parents' house without a warrant, detained her without reasonable cause, failed to order a full autopsy to establish Mina's cause of death, and mishandled, perhaps even contaminated, the coffee they claimed killed Miena. In the new criminal law review, Professor Simon Butt wrote that, procedural irregularities and legal mistakes plagued Wongso's case from the very beginning.
Starting point is 01:15:01 He argued that the prosecution fell well short of meeting the evidentiary standard, while the court paid insufficient, arguably no regard to the defense. He suggested the judges may have been swayed to convict due to public pressure, noting they swallowed the prosecution's case and drew strange conclusions from Wongso's demeanor without properly addressing significant holes in the evidence. Rejecting the possibility of natural causes, the court instead relied on process of elimination reasoning. In 2023, Netflix released a documentary on the contentious case titled Ice Cold, Murder, Coffee and Jessica Wongso, which featured exclusive interviews with several important figures, including Min as Farms.
Starting point is 01:15:54 father, and lawyers from both the prosecution and defence teams. The highly anticipated film propelled the case back into the spotlight and gained international attention, leading to renewed discussion about whether or not Jessica Wongso had been wrongfully convicted. The film put Jessica in a sympathetic light, leading to a shift in public opinion, despite criticism about its lack of journalistic rigor and balance, with some critics labeling the documentary as sensationalistic. The following year in August 24, Jessica was granted parole, having served just eight years of her 20-year sentence. Officials said their decision had nothing to do with the Netflix
Starting point is 01:16:41 documentary, but was based on Jessica's good behavior, which included her teaching English and yoga to other prisoners. The now 36-year-old walked straight into a press conference, saying she didn't have anything planned for her release, but she had forgiven everyone who wronged her. In May 2025, Jessica agreed to participate in an exclusive interview with Australian journalist Liam Bartlett for Channel 7's Spotlight Program. It was a highly anticipated interview that attracted millions of viewers. As had become her trademark, Jessica didn't appear at all ruffled by any of Liam's direct questions, and was able to laugh off or explain away any uncomfortable moments. She also appeared to have backtracked on her claims about her friendship with Myrna, saying,
Starting point is 01:17:38 We weren't close at all, it was because we came from the same country, that was why we kind of, like, know each other. We weren't best friends or anything. Jessica told Liam she never scoped out Olivia Cafe for security cameras, and that if the foot made it appear that way, it was only because she was looking around at the place and people. As for the gift bags that she moved around the table, Jessica smiled as she said, that's just me being me, you know, being bored. It really doesn't mean anything at all. She said the fact that the bags shielded the drinks from the security cameras was a pure coincidence.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Liam asked to Jessica why she was scratching her hands on the CCTV footage while Mina was getting first aid. Jessica explained it as a habit of hers, stating, it's not because it's itchy or something from poison or something like that. Liam jumped in. I'm not saying that, he clarified. You made the suggestion. I'm just saying you're standing there scratching your hands, but you're not helping.
Starting point is 01:18:51 It was yet another awkward moment that Jessica managed to brush off. She said she had never heard of cyanide before Meena's death, prompting Liam to point out it was therefore strange that she had contacted Meena's twin sister the day after Meena died and asked about the results of the toxicology tests. Jessica explained she knew that samples had been taken and she was simply curious to know how Meena had died. As for the restraining order, her ex-boyfriend Patrick had taken out against her,
Starting point is 01:19:24 Jessica said the story was complicated and not like it sounds, explaining. The relationship was kind of, like, toxic in a way. We didn't really see eye to eye on a lot of things. Jessica said she had no idea why people said that Meina was afraid to be alone around her, asked if she had the potential to be violent, Jessica laughed and said, No, of course not. What would I do?
Starting point is 01:19:56 Liam told Jessica, he wondered why she didn't get an invite to Meina and Arif's wedding. She began to stammer, saying, Because I was in Australia, I couldn't be bothered to, like, fly over just to attend their wedding. Liam pressed on, saying, But you didn't get that choice, did you? she didn't invite you.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Jessica looked stunned, pausing for a moment, before saying, I can't remember. Didn't she invite me? I can't even remember. She burst into giggles when Liam asked her about the time she drove her car into the nursing home. When he said she was lucky that she didn't die, Jessica responded, Yeah, do you think I'm lucky? after everything I've been through.
Starting point is 01:20:49 You think I'm lucky. Jessica Wongso will be held on parole in Jakarta until 2032. She maintains her innocence in Mina's murder and has filed a judicial review against her conviction in the hopes that she will be officially exonerated from the crime. In the meantime, Spotlight reported that she is trying to make a living as an influencer with brand deals coming in from beauty, food and tech companies. Indonesia's largest coffee chain Canangang Kauphi has even reached out to her about collaborating with them. Jessica told Liam Bartlett she couldn't imagine working a regular office job after everything that she'd been through.
Starting point is 01:21:36 When he quipped that no one would trust her to do the coffee run, she laughed heartily. The question of whether or not Jessica Wongso is guilty of murdering Mianas Sali Hin is still debated almost a decade later. Professor Simon Butt stated in his journal article, Whether she is guilty or innocent, Wongso should not have been convicted. As has been shown, her trial was unfair, as was her treatment by police.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Wongso's case illustrates that Indonesia's laws of criminal procedure require an urgent overhaul to better protect the rights of suspects and defendants, though this is unlikely in the foreseeable future. Some view Jessica as an innocent victim of Indonesia's broken justice system, while others see her as a cold-blooded and manipulative killer masquerading as the victim. Indonesian news presenter Timothy Marbon, who hosted a daily show covering Jessica's trial for the Compass TV network, likened Jessica to a villain from a film.
Starting point is 01:22:46 He told Australia's 60 Minutes When you watch a movie, when the villain is that good, you don't even want them to die. Mena Sellehin's loved ones have never swayed from their belief that Jessica was responsible for Mena's death. Her father, Eddie Selyhyn, told Netflix he is a million percent sure that Jessica is guilty, saying, deep inside her, something is evil.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Mirna's twin sister, Sandy, moved to the German countryside with her husband to distance herself from the case and find some peace. Mina's husband, Arif Samarko, has remarried and no longer publicly discusses the case. However, back in 2016, when Jessica's trial was underway, he fondly told reporters how he had first met Meena in 2006. They got to know each other over the course of the year before they started dating. A reef cried as he recalled how happy he'd been during their courtship, saying, I was so happy to meet Meena, she changed my life so much. She also introduced me to God. She was kind to everyone, she didn't discriminate, and she treated everyone equally.
Starting point is 01:24:14 He proudly recalled watching Myrna in the lead-up to their wedding in awe of her creativity as she designed the small details of their wedding decorations. A reef told reporters that despite the public focus on Jessica, quote, When people follow the case, I always think of Meena.

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